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First of all, thank you for rocking with us. 19 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: We appreciate y'all, and I want to shout out I 20 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: got this dope hoodie merch tag the Brother, but thank 21 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: you as well. It's called flight risk it's an interesting 22 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: story behind that, but check its page out, check them out. 23 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate it. Okay, let's get into it. 24 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk about the biggest event in sports 25 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: that just recently passed, the Super Bowl. But we're gonna 26 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: take a different approach, take a different approach. 27 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: Last week, we talked about the marketing of the Super Bowl, 28 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: but another huge part of it is the amount of 29 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: money that's gambled on the game itself. So the Super 30 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: Bowl took in one hundred and thirty four million dollars 31 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: in bets on the game, prop bets, halftime things like that. 32 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: So we're gonna talk about sports betting on a national stage. 33 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 3: So we have seven states right now in the United 34 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: States that have sports betting, with New York being a 35 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: state that is on the fence about it. So you 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: have Nevada obviously we know about that. Las Vegas is 37 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: a huge see when it comes to gambling that starts 38 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: in the nineteen forties. You have Delaware, you have Pennsylvania, 39 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: New Mexico, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania, and the last one 40 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: is Mississippi. Mississippi. So you have seven states right now 41 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: that are engaged in it, and it's a huge revenue 42 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 3: gaining for the states, but for some reason New York 43 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: can't figure out how to get this correct. If we 44 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: go down the list of how much money is generated 45 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: by each state, for Nevada in the past six months, 46 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 3: so we're talking about from June twenty eighteen to December 47 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, as expected, they have the highest they grade. 48 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: They grossed in about two point two billion dollars in 49 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: that time. Delaware, a small state, grossed eighty four million, 50 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: with fifty percent of that revenue going directly to the state. 51 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: Mississippi generated one hundred and thirteen million, and Pennsylvania, which 52 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: started I think they got passed in October twenty seven, 53 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, they generated seventeen million dollars at the end 54 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: of twenty eighteen. And then you have RhE Island, which 55 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: is the small state in our Union, they generated about 56 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: two million dollars with fifty one percent of the revenue 57 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: going to the state. And I saved Jersey for last 58 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: because their story is pretty remarkable. Being at the proximity 59 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: to New York. They generated nine one hundred and twenty 60 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: eight million dollars in six months, so they almost did 61 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: a billion dollars in six months. And what's interesting is 62 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: that most of their. 63 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: When you say they, so who who gets them? That's 64 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: the state revenue? Who makes that money? 65 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 3: The state makes that Well that's the way that the 66 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: state made, but the stand companies made. So the companies 67 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: take a percentage, the state takes a percentage. New Jersey 68 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: didn't give the details on how much they they take 69 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 3: from it. So, like I. 70 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: Said, that's so that's a total revenue. 71 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, total revenue. So, like, like I said, Delaware takes 72 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: fifty percent of the revenue. New Jersey didn't release it 73 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: the figures on how much they take from. 74 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: So Delaware takes fifty of the revenue tax. Yeah, that's interesting. 75 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: So let's not to cut you off. But so I 76 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: didn't I didn't realize that the tax that is paid 77 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: that gamble gambling institutions pay. Right. So we're in New York, right, 78 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: I know we have listeners all over, but we're in 79 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: New York. So there's New York gambling is not really 80 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: league legal right on that level. It's like slot machines 81 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So there's a casino where we live, right, 82 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: but they don't actually have card games. They just have 83 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: stop slot machines. So I heard I was at a 84 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: panel discussion and I heard one of the executives at 85 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: the casino speak and she was saying that they pay 86 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: somewhere between sixty and seventy percent of their revenue in 87 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: taxes to the state. 88 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 89 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: So now you're saying that Delaware pays takes fifty percent. Yeah, 90 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: but she was saying, even but this is how much 91 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: money gambling makes. Even though they pay seventy percent of 92 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: their revenues to the state, it's still profitable for them, exactly. 93 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: That's how much money they've brand. 94 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: Right, So like that number, and now that we were 95 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, you can just put that up to 96 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: one point two billion and six months. Right. 97 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: All they did was legalize it. 98 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: And the interesting I think I was saying about New 99 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: Jersey is that most of their betting takes place online. 100 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: So that's when you get sites in independent sites and 101 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: FANDU and DraftKings who are sports who actually now have 102 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: sports books, so people can literally gamble in their hands. 103 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: So I remember a time, so. 104 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: Just briefly explain that for somebody that might not be 105 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: a sports fan what that means. 106 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: So FanDuel is a is an app, and DraftKings both 107 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: of them are apps where you can it arise from 108 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: the daily Fantasy games. So people were playing Daily Fantasy 109 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: and putting money in to start pools and then they 110 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: fan do and DraftKings come up with an idea like, listen, 111 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 3: we can do this on a daily basis. You don't 112 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: have to wait a week. You can do it twice 113 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: in a day that they change the parameters. So I 114 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: can put a lineup together at for one o'clock games, 115 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: and depending on how those players that I pit perform, 116 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: I can win money. I can also do that at 117 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: the four thirty games. I could do it at the 118 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: Monday night. 119 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: So you're pretty much you're picking your team. 120 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're picking a team every time you bet, okay, Yeah. 121 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: So from that they decide after New Jersey legalizes that 122 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: they're going to create their own sports book. So a 123 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: sports book is where you actually place bets on games. 124 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: So that's like a bookie. A bookie, right, you get 125 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: a ticket. So New Jersey has a sports book. The 126 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: interesting thing about New Jersey is that it's ten minutes 127 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: from New York City, right, so pending, well, let me 128 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: say at Crabit. So FanDuel is in charge of the 129 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: sports book at the Meadowlands, So Meadowlands for those of 130 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: you who aren't from the Tri City area. The Meadallands 131 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: is where the Giants and the Jets play met Life Stadium. 132 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: So the fan Do sports book is headquarters is at 133 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: the Medlands. So that's about fifteen minutes from New York City, 134 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: given if there's no driving, fifteen minutes. So what we're 135 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: seeing is a lot of people who want to place 136 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: bets that are from New York and can't do it. 137 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: They're driving to Jersey. They're placing that bets. They're staying 138 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: in Jersey to watch the games, spending capital at restaurants, right, 139 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: maybe gambling more while they're there, paying for gas while 140 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: they're there. All this money that's leaving New York is 141 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: going to Jersey to place bets. 142 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: So they track it via your phone, right, So the 143 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: GPS and your phone. 144 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: There's an interesting story about that. 145 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: Well, before we even get to that, it's important you're 146 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: being tracked at all times. 147 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 148 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: You know, when I found out I was being tracked 149 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: at all times. This is kind of going off topic, 150 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: but it's interesting. So I used to have a BMW right, 151 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: and the car kept out having problems, so I had 152 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: to take it in to get service and they asked me, 153 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: They said, you don't do a lot long distance driving, 154 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: do you. And I looked at him, like, how do 155 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: you know that? He's like, we looked at the GPS 156 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: and that's why. I'm like, they really know where my 157 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: car is at at all times. So if you ever 158 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: did something and you didn't you can't say you wasn't 159 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: there because your car is there. Because a thing with 160 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: your cell phone. 161 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: It's like when you drive now and your watch says 162 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: eight minutes away from home, I'm. 163 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: Like, all that is all that? So exactly your iPhone, 164 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: I watch, all of that has a GPS built in, 165 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: so they know where you are at all times. 166 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. So the crazy part is, and going back to 167 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: that GPS thing, is that in I think twenty sixteen, 168 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: the Attorney General for the state of New York I 169 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: believe Sneyderman was his name. He says that this is illegal. 170 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 3: You can't use FanDuel. This is illegal. We don't know 171 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 3: how to regulate it yet. So DraftKings and fan do 172 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: gets suspended, so you can't use it in New York State. 173 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: So I recall I remember people like listening like, Yo, 174 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna drive to Connecticut because we live pretty close 175 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 3: to Connecticut and we look pretty close in New Jersey. 176 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take that ten minute drive. I'm gonna put 177 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: my lines in because my GPS will show that I'm 178 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: in Connecticut and then come back home. 179 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 2: So what would happen if you try to place it 180 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: bet in New York? It wouldn't go through just because GPS. 181 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you get the message like you are not in 182 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: a state that allows fan do to be played. 183 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: If you if you take one step into Connecticut, you're good. 184 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: The GPS changes. 185 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: I had a friend of mine call his sister in 186 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: Las Vegas to log into his account to say, listen, 187 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: can you put a line in for me? Please? It 188 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: was that serious, right, So that got lifted over I 189 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: believe two thousand, summer twenty seventeen. So now you can 190 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 3: use FanDuel for the daily fantasy portion, but you can't 191 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: place the sports. You can't use the sports booking part 192 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: of the app, not yet, which I think will change. 193 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: I think we'll change when we have a governor. Now 194 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: who is I think on board with that billion dollar 195 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 3: industry easily billions bigger than New York. Yeah, all over America, 196 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: right all over the world. Sports betting billions, people who 197 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: are betting on everything, point spreads, point spreads. I just 198 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: saw a prop bet and it was because the NBA 199 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: All Star Game they picked the captains recently, and it 200 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: was like, there's a prop bet for who the first 201 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: pick is going to be, right, Like James Harden is 202 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: the favorite to be the number one pick. Like you 203 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: can bet on that, right, Like that's crazy, Right, Who's 204 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: gonna win a coin to us? Who's gonna get the 205 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: first first down, who's the first catch, who's gonna make 206 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: the first three point in the game? Like all these 207 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: things are being bet on, and they seem like so trivial, 208 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: and it's like, wait, that makes sense. People are betting 209 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 3: on them every day. So New Jersey billion dollars six months. 210 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: What's the New York's response. I think we'll see a 211 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: change within the next year. Right, we get a new 212 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: Attorney general and Leticia James, who now is in charge 213 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: of how to regulate these things, right, so she can 214 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: control Hey, we get that money we regulated, here's where 215 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: we can spread it and hopefully and I remember you 216 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: posted something about the lottery and like how it was 217 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: originally supposed to be for schools. Right, maybe that's where 218 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: this heads. Right, we get another source of revenue for 219 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 3: this state, and now we could the funds could be 220 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: appropriated in the right way. That's my hope and hopefully 221 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: that happens. 222 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: Hold your breath. 223 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: I'm fighting for education. You know that. I'm always gonna 224 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: fight for that. 225 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, okay, So sports batting billion dollar industry, 226 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: billion dollar industry. So keeping it in sports, we were 227 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 2: actually had a conversation last week about George Foreman, right, 228 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: m hm. So George Forman is interesting for a few 229 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: different reasons. Yeah, right, as anybody that followed me knows, 230 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: I like to do case studies or not just businesses, 231 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: but individuals as well, entrepreneurs and like the backstories on 232 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: deals and stuff like that. So George for what is 233 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: he known for? 234 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: George, He's a generational personality, right, Like I said, like, 235 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: depending on what generation you come from will determine on 236 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: how you remember George Foreman. So like my dad and 237 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 3: your dad, they know him as the great boxer, this 238 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: Hall of fame guy who gets roped by Muhammad Ali 239 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 3: and he's known for that for a generation. Then the 240 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: next generation, I feel like our generation to a certain extent, 241 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: is like, he's the guy who's out of shape, why 242 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: is he still boxing? Becomes the commentator for boxing on HBO, 243 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 3: and at some point he gets a sitcom and it's like, 244 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: all right, this is who is this guy? And then 245 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: the next generation of people like with like tail end 246 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: and that he's known as the guy who's on the 247 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: infomercials selling a product. 248 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: Selling a product. Yeah, so this is the way. 249 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: This is. 250 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 4: A legendary product. 251 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: Okay, So I gotta tell his story. I gotta tell 252 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: his story in full detail. So George Foreman was a 253 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: legendary boxer, right, who in the seventies. He retired from 254 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: boxing in nineteen seventy seven, Right, first time he from 255 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: box in nineteen seventy seven. Yeah, he had five million 256 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: dollars at the time of his retirement, which is equal 257 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: to twenty million today. 258 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: That's not bad for a boxing not bad for anybody. 259 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: In ten years. By nineteen eighty seven, he was flat broke. 260 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: In his words, he's flat broke. He made some bad investments. 261 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: You know how athletes go broke. There's a long list 262 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: of reasons why Flat broke in nineteen eighty seven, which 263 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: forced him back into fighting. So he comes out of retirement. 264 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: It actually wins, No. 265 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: He does win, but he so. In nineteen ninety four 266 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: he became champion. 267 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, he beat Michael Moore. 268 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: I think so the oldest heavyweight champion at that time 269 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: in history, forty five years old. 270 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: It might still be that belly out World. 271 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety four, he becomes a heavyweight champion of forty 272 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: five years old. Another interesting thing happened in nineteen ninety 273 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: four though, right, So in nineteen ninety four, not only 274 00:14:54,760 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: is he the heavyweight champ, but Hawk Hogan is the 275 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: ww F cham WWF. People don't even know what WWF. 276 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: It's called w W. 277 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: Now now, Yeah, they had the lawsuit with the world 278 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: what was it the It was an animal organization that 279 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: had that name, and they lost the lawsuits and that 280 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: the teams into w W. 281 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: E anybody that grew up in the eighties or the nineties, 282 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: So I grew up in the nineties, right, anybody that 283 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: grew up in the nineties. Wrestling played a major part, 284 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: huge in the culture. Absolutely culture your favorite uh undertaker? 285 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to undertake it Ultimate Warriors. He played 286 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: the part he played Ultimate war past rest in peace. 287 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: So hawk Hogan icon absolutely. 288 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: I don't think people fully understand how iconic Hawk Hogan was, 289 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: Like you actually had to be living in that moment 290 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: the Beatles. 291 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: It was a hope, like it was a real thing. 292 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: Like I remember watching that and that was when wrestling 293 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: came on at Saturdays at eight o'clock and then it 294 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: came on as Sundays at twelve like before it was 295 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: a Monday night rule. 296 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: Different. 297 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: This guy was like Hawk Hogan superstar. Different superstar Michael, 298 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: He's Michael Jordan of wrestling. Yes, him and Andre Giant. 299 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: They have that in like the that that match at 300 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: Masters Garden as one of the biggest moments in the 301 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: history of New York City. Like when he picks up 302 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: the all like Monstrous Andrea Giant and does like the 303 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: slam on. It's like the one of the best memorial 304 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: moments in the history of the Masters reguard. 305 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: Hawk legend legend. So all right, So nineteen ninety four, 306 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: they're both champs, right, they also both have the same 307 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: business manager. Oh okay, right, So hawk Hogan at the 308 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: time is bigger than George Foreman. So the business manageher 309 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: meets with Hawk Hogan. He has three products for him 310 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: to endorse. He offered him three products for endorse. Yeah, 311 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: he had a pick one. One was a grill, one 312 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: was a meatball maker, and one was a blender. Right, 313 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: he chose the meatball maker. The meatball maker of the 314 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: name is the Hawkermania meatball Maker. Have you heard of it? 315 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: I'd never heard of it. 316 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: I didn't even know. 317 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: No, he chose the Hawkermania meatball Maker. That's what he chose. Now. 318 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: He told the agent, get somebody else, get one of 319 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: your other clients to endorse the other the grill and 320 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: the blender. So at the time, George Foreman was eating 321 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: two hamburgers before every fight. It was like a big thing. 322 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: So he thought that it would be a perfect person 323 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: to endorse the grill. So George Foreman agrees to endorse 324 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: the grill. Right, So he makes a deal with the 325 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: grill company to get forty profit of every grill sold, 326 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: every grill. 327 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: So it's like a masterpiece. 328 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: And his name was on it, which we know as 329 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: the Form and Grill. Right, he makes up to eight 330 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: million dollars a month with the forman Grill. He made 331 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: so much money with the form and Grill that eventually 332 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: the people they realized they made a bad deal because 333 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 2: they gave him too much, so they say, Okay, we 334 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: got to get away from this. 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He takes a deal, So he 386 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: made over two hundred and fifty million when you add 387 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: the money that he made before nineteen ninety nine and 388 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: then the lump sum one hundred and thirty eight million 389 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: payout that they brought him out with in nineteen ninety nine. 390 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 2: Stop game change that this hereuysn't looked back since I. 391 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: Mean, and those grills, I mean, every household has no. 392 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: It's one of the best inventions ever made that made like. 393 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 4: The list of best invasion. 394 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: No, it's definitely top three because when I was in college, 395 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: I literally only cooked on the Former Girl. Yeah, I 396 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: know a bunch of people who became chefs off to 397 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: the formula. It was ridiculous. 398 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: You can cook anything on the Former Girl. 399 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: We went from Gavin to Hamburgers at eight at a time. 400 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 2: You can cook corn for the Former Girl. 401 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: It was ridiculous and it was easy to clean. It 402 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: was perfect. It was a perfect problem. 403 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: So do we blame hawk Hogan or do we just 404 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: chalk it up to just look because who knows the 405 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: grill is going to do that? 406 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 3: Right? No, I don't think we could have predicted that. 407 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: No one could have predicted that, right, Like he would 408 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: have done that if he had known the grill. But 409 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: could you imagine the whole Cogan grill? 410 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: Little known historical fact, and that's why we're here. Little 411 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: known historical facts like that changed the cost of history. 412 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: All right, Okay, okay, all right, So let's change change topics, lanes, 413 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: let's change lanes, and let's talk about the art world. 414 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: So this topic is something that is near and dear 415 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: to my heart. A little known fact is that so 416 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: I used to play sports. Yeah, but my first passion 417 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: was art first love. So I used to draw, and 418 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: I actually was in a gifted and talented art class. 419 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: I could have actually probably taken art further than I did, 420 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: but I got distracted by other things. So art is 421 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: something that I've always had a passion for. But we're 422 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 2: going to talk about the business side of art. 423 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: The business side, Yeah, absolutely, So. 424 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: People don't realize that art as an item is something 425 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: that appreciates and value, which means it gains value over time. 426 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 2: It's an investment. 427 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 4: It's an investment. 428 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 3: So when we hear I bought that artwork for one million, 429 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 3: two years later, it's worth two million. A couple years 430 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: later's worth eight million. I can't wait to get that 431 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 3: to my chl. What Jay saying in that line, and 432 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 3: we reference to him again, is that this is an 433 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: investment that I purchased at a price which will gain 434 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: value a year, eight years, a great gains even more. 435 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: But wait till my children get older and can take 436 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: that asset and now maybe they can use it for 437 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: my entiy game. So that artwork that he's talking about 438 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: could be fifty million dollars by the time his children 439 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 3: of the age, and that's not something that we think 440 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: about investing in. 441 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: It's not and it's something that I want to even 442 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 2: tie it even closer to the culture because a lot 443 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: of times people so when Jacobseha says a lot of 444 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: things that goes over people's heads, right, So like when 445 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 2: he says, I got Bosquiocht and a lobby on my spot, 446 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: or when he says it ain't hard to tell I'm 447 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: the new John Michelle. He talking about John Michelle boskiat right. 448 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: So when you hear these names, it's like, especially John Michelle, 449 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 2: he might not know that that's John Michelle. You're thinking 450 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 2: probably a French painter that lived in the nineteen early 451 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds, maybe eighteen hundreds, maybe even seventeen hundreds. And 452 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: it's like, how does that? What is that? 453 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: You know? 454 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 4: Like, I think that definitely goes over people. 455 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: But the crazy thing about it is that when he's 456 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: referencing Bosquiyacht, people don't understand like that that's hip hop 457 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: culture absolutely. Just so this dude is from Brooklyn. He's 458 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: from Brooklyn. He is Haitian. That's why his name is Gene. 459 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: That's why he has a French name right right, because 460 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 2: he's Haitian. 461 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: And then last name he's. 462 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: Half Haitian half Puerto Rican. Actually yeah, but that's why. 463 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: So you hear ge Michelle Bosciot, you're not thinking a 464 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: black kid from Brooklyn, No, but that's the backstory on 465 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: he's Haitian. So he starts in the eighties, not even 466 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: that long ago, in the eighties as a graffiti. 467 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 4: Artist, right seventies and into the eighties. 468 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: Seventies and into the eighties as a graffiti artist, right 469 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: dropped out of high school. Yep, unfortunately, So he made 470 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: he made his name for himself in the Lower East 471 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: He's from Brooklyn, but he made his name herself on 472 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: the Lower east Side. Now, New York, anybody that's not familiar, 473 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: New York was a different place in the eighties than 474 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: it is now, absolutely completely different, right, the Lower East Side, 475 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: Alphabet City was a different place than it is now. 476 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 2: So the street art was huge, graffiti trained, graffiti, everything huge. 477 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So he starts with that, and then he 478 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: blows up and becomes the toast of New York and 479 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 3: becomes the hottest artists in this I think he's on 480 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 3: the cover up Time magazine or one of these publications 481 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: where this is the new face of art, Like this 482 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: kid is brilliant twenty two, twenty three at the time, 483 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 3: Like he's a face of art now, like people are 484 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 3: putting him in museums with Warhall now at twenty in 485 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 3: his twenties. 486 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: Prodigy. 487 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, prodigy absolutely. 488 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: Unfortunately passed away from overdose twenty seven years old in 489 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty. 490 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 3: Eight, different time, eighties, New York City. But ain't even 491 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: The interesting thing more so is that in twenty seventeen 492 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: his painting sold for one hundred and ten million. 493 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 2: Now, the reason why that's interested is that that made 494 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: him the highest well he's the number one US painter 495 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: with the highest selling painting ever. He has the highest 496 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: selling painting for a US painter ever for one hundred 497 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: and ten million. So you got a kid from Brooklyn 498 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: who is a graffiti artist as Core dropped out of 499 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: high school, was living on the street. That is the 500 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: most successful US painter and one of the most successful 501 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: artists in world history. That's an interesting. 502 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: Story, legendary, just even a backstory like that. That's song 503 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: that we're talking about, the Picasso Baby song. It inspired 504 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: us so much that like during my summer program. Like 505 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 3: our team was like, listen, we're gonna use this song 506 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 3: and we're gonna go to the Museum of Mind Art 507 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: and we're gonna teach them about just from these lyrics, 508 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 3: about the paintings that he's talking about. Because most of 509 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: the artists that Jay's talking about, whether it's is Bosky 510 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: or is Warhol orso Picasso or is Jeff Coon Balloon, 511 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 3: so he's talking about, they're in that museum. So we 512 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: literally put together a scavenger hunt in the museum for 513 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: the kids to become familiar with the art right from 514 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 3: Jay and the artists that he's speaking of. 515 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 4: Like, that's how much it impacted us. So like that's legendary, No, 516 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 4: it is. 517 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: And like you said, it's interesting because we talked about investments. 518 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: That's an interesting investment that the average person doesn't think 519 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: about art, investing in art, right. But so that's about 520 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: when Chason that you said, I line one million and 521 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: then two years later's worth two million. I can't wait 522 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: to give it to my children's That's that's even deeper 523 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: than just art because it's like, Okay, I'm leaving a 524 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: legacy to my kids, right and I'm teaching them about investing, right, 525 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: But art isn't invest But I want to tie it 526 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: in too because you know, a lot of times we're 527 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: talented people, right, and whether we take photos or whether 528 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: we draw, whether we paint, a lot of times we 529 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: don't fully understand the value of what we are doing 530 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: because we are artists, right. And it's like I would 531 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: have never I guarantee you he Boskiyot never thought his 532 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: painting would self for a one hundred and ten million 533 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: dollars or a painting probably con't fail me, right, So 534 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: it's like, so, but the interesting thing with artist that 535 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: is whatever somebody thinks it's worth, right, So it's important 536 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: that you know you're worth as an artist, right Because 537 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: like I said, there's a lot of people in our 538 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: community that are talented, but do they fully understand that 539 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: what they're doing is valuable. Like somebody might look at 540 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 2: what they're doing and say that's trash. Somebody else might 541 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: look at they do it and say, I'll give you 542 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: a million dollars for that, right. 543 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: And we can't mention art, especially in hip hop culture, 544 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 3: without measuring us. So what he's doing with the no 545 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 3: commissions campaign, like that's brilliant, right, a lot of times 546 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: artists create these paintings and have to put them display. 547 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 4: Them in a gallery. 548 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: And what people don't realize is that they have to 549 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: pay a commission to the gallery to display the art. 550 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 3: And it's like they lose money just because they want 551 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: to display it in this this setting. And what he's 552 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: doing is like, listen, we're going to bake the setting 553 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: and there's no commission, Like you get one hundred percent 554 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: of what somebody paid for that, which is dope because 555 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: he only not only does he again teach about art 556 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: in a sense. 557 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 4: But he's also teaching education. 558 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, get one hundred percent of what you're working, Like, 559 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: why pay this middleman because you're using this gallery? 560 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 4: Right. 561 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: The gallery may help prestiege, but the art is what 562 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: makes people come up. 563 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: And it's similar to this, so it all ties into 564 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: even like the record label right where it's like, say, 565 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: if this is art, why do I need to go 566 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: to Southerby's or one of these houses to place my 567 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: art so they can get a huge commission and they 568 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: could value it and they can say this is worth 569 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: this much and have an option on it. It's like 570 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: this is our same thing with music. Right, Why do 571 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: I have to go to a record label and have 572 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: them take a piece of it and have them display 573 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: it on their catalog and I appear courtesy of a 574 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: record company, you know what I mean? Like, and that's it. 575 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: So it all ties in. So when people think about art, 576 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: a lot of times they don't fully understand how how 577 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: much art is valued. It's it's it's actually mind blowing 578 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: when you when you do the numbers on it. 579 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: And we got the two biggest art stories of last year, 580 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: I would argue that as a number one, the bank 581 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: Ski story. 582 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: Bankski is a legend. So Bankski is a street artist 583 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: who goes all around the world and he just pops 584 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: up and he'll just he'll paint these these these paintings 585 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: on buildings, on sidewalks, on streets anywhere. But nobody ever knows, 586 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: you know, who he is. See we would like to 587 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: todde coach, he right doesn't do that. So one of 588 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: the illest things ever was when ghost Face Killer first 589 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: came out right with the Wu Tang because nobody saw. 590 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: Us face that video. 591 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: We didn't know, but like the first four videos, uh yeah, 592 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: I think yeah. 593 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 4: So like the protecting act in the method man video, 594 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 4: and that's. 595 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: Why he was ghost face because nobody saw him. It 596 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: was like a whole big thing like who is he? 597 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: Right? And it was the mistique when nobody knows who 598 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: you are, you have a certain mistique to you. So, 599 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: like he said, lady said, when he my face got revealed, 600 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: the game got real. So for the first for the 601 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: first four videos. 602 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: Nobody knew who he what he looked like because he 603 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: had like a visor like on like he it was 604 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: it was interesting. 605 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: So you have a certain mistique to you when people 606 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: don't know who you are, they just hear about your name. 607 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 3: And that's true, like and that is the original form 608 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 3: of graffiti. Like in the seventies and ages, especially in 609 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: New York City, it was like we put up this art. 610 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: You'll know us by our tags. You don't even have 611 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 3: to know who we are. You just know like, oh, like, 612 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: oh that's the new guy. He's hot. Look at this 613 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 3: that he did. Look at the train that he just 614 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: he that piece that he put on that train, or 615 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 3: look at that building over there that he tagged. And 616 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: it was like that's what you became known for. You're 617 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: tagged me and the art that you put up. And 618 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: then that gets frowned upon in New York City and 619 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 3: cops cracked down and they erased him, and people are 620 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: getting locked up for graffiti. And twenty years, thirty years later, 621 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: we have this. 622 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: And that's what I said. I said this last time, 623 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: and I fully believe that I said this on the 624 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: first episode. You can't stop energy, right, So KRAFFII, I 625 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: don't know if graffiti started with hip hop, but I'm 626 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: just gonna say it did because I think it did. 627 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 4: That's part of hip hop. 628 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: So that started in the South Bronx. But people spray 629 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: painting trains, spray painting walls, spray and like you said, 630 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: it was frowned upon, it was looked at like it 631 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: was defacing the city. They had a whole campaign to 632 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: stomp it out. I go to Germany, Thailand, Asia, spray 633 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: painting everywhere, murals, murals. Yeah, and now Bankski is pretty 634 00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: much a spray painter. 635 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 3: Is currently the most famous artist in the world, the 636 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: most notorious artist in the world. 637 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: He's doing what. 638 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 3: Kids, just regular sixteen fifteen year old kids was doing 639 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty six, and they weren't looked at as artists. 640 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: They were just regular kids with a spray can. 641 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 4: They were looked as delinquents, misfits. 642 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's how it all. It's interesting. But Bankski, 643 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: we gotta talk about the stunt that he pulled. 644 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the two biggest, I would argue, the two 645 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 3: biggest stories in art were the Bankski shredded painting. Like 646 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 3: this was like a miraculous stunt. So he puts a 647 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 3: painting up for auction, but he's no. He actually had 648 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: a painting that he never wanted to be auction and 649 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: he put it in this case. 650 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 4: That was very thick, and people were like, this feels 651 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 4: pretty funny. 652 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: He's very heavy, and it went up for auction, right, 653 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: that was the one thing he said he did not 654 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 3: want to happen with the pay of bogs and so 655 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 3: they bidden on it, bidden on it. 656 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 4: And remember one point four million. One point four. 657 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 3: Million, And as soon as that gavel went down and 658 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 3: they were trying to take the painting off the wall, 659 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: the painting starts, it starts to shred. So he has 660 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 3: a shredder. He has a shred up built in the 661 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: frame of the paint. 662 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: As soon as the person paid one point four million 663 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: and money got transferred, they're about to give her or 664 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: him the painting as they're giving as they're trying to 665 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: take it off the wall, it starts to shred like 666 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: a paper shred. They were actually the interesting thing about 667 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 2: so he must have had somebody on the inside. 668 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 3: Mission impossibly some theories that like maybe he was in 669 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 3: that room, or they pressed the butt somebody right after 670 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 3: it was done. The interesting thing about it is. 671 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 2: The interesting thing about it is that they were able 672 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 2: to stop it because it only shredded halfway. So it's 673 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 2: halfway shredded. It's sold for one point four million. Now 674 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: I know where you're going. It's worth two million. It's 675 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: actually worth more before than before. That's how art is 676 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: so crazy, because now that's our because that's our Yeah, like. 677 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 3: About half shredded Banksky painting, the whole story behind it. 678 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: It won up six hundred thousand the moment plus the 679 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 3: painting added to the value of it. 680 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 4: Unbelieving. 681 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the second story. Is jay Z and 682 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 3: Beyonce right them shooting that apeshient video and the Louver 683 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: what that did? They said, record numbers for attendants at 684 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: the Louver, and the museum itself said thank you to 685 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 3: them for bringing attention to that. 686 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: So the Louver is the most popular famous art museum 687 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: in the world in Paris. The Pyramid building. Yeah, the 688 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: glass pyramid. 689 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 4: Glass pyramid. 690 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: Right, So the tendance where Mona Lisa is right, So 691 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: like the part in the video where they're standing in 692 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 3: front of it. I remember he said, like I'm sleeping. 693 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 3: That's in the mount of day Mona Lisa. Like we 694 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 3: are art, Like that's Mona Lisa, but we're the focus here. 695 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: So they do it. They threw a video in the in. 696 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 3: The loop, Yeah, and tendance goes up by twenty five 697 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 3: percent immediately after. You can't discount that, like just because 698 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 3: they shot like that doesn't even happen, Like how many 699 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: videos have even been shot in there, Like there's certain 700 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 3: pinions they don't even allow you to even film in there, 701 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 3: and they got the rights to do the entire video 702 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 3: in there. Have to close it down and look what 703 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 3: it does for the museum. 704 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 2: Culture culture. Yeah, man, all right, all right, okay, so 705 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 2: final words. 706 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 3: So you man, you. 707 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, final word man. Like I said, I just think 708 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 2: that a lot of times we have to fully understand 709 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: that what we're doing has value. Right, We don't want 710 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 2: to talk over anybody's head. We want to talk directly 711 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 2: to the people. And it's important to realize and that's 712 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: why we wanted to just talk about that art situation 713 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 2: is that no matter which you're doing, is valuable, right, 714 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 2: So it's important to a understand your worth. Never let 715 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 2: somebody devalue your worth. And also, you know, have a 716 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: broader sense of this is cool, but this is bigger 717 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 2: than just my community. This is bigger than like this 718 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 2: is for the world like this, because like I said, 719 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 2: what we're doing is effecting the world, right, So it's 720 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 2: important to understand. 721 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 4: That in the sense like we're using the culture to teach. 722 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 3: Culture that but I'm just saying when I say we'm 723 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 3: talking about everybody, our culture is world culture absolutely. I 724 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 3: think somebody said that, like the number one export of 725 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 3: America is culture, right, Like we affect so many different 726 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 3: places based on the things we. 727 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: Do exactly exactly. So know your worth, that's my final word. 728 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 4: Know your worth absolutely. 729 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 2: All right, guys, thank you for rocking with us. We 730 00:38:52,400 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: see y'all next week. 731 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: You just realized your business needed to hire someone yesterday. 732 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: How can you find amazing candidates fast? Easy? Just use indeed, 733 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: stop struggling to get your job posts seen on other 734 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: job sites. With Indeed sponsored jobs, your post jumps to 735 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: the top of the page for your relevant candidates, so 736 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: you can reach the people you want faster. 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