WEBVTT - "FEELING THORNY!" w/ Rob Benedict

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Will you accept this Rose? A production of

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio? Oh yeah, I want to get all

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<v Speaker 1>up in you tonight. It seems so I just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>wonder to worship when you reach name. Hello, baby boys,

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<v Speaker 1>baby girls, baby humans, baby bunnies and monkeys out there.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Ard Marine, and I have a special

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<v Speaker 1>special podcast for you guys today when we realize that

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<v Speaker 1>ABC is literally running out of content and they're like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to trick us that Sewn Mocy said that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't just air this four weeks ago and we did

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<v Speaker 1>it with Jerry and um Rob, we were ready to

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<v Speaker 1>do another podcast. We're like, wait, we've done this one before.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what in December, we clearly didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>a pandemic was going to happen, but I knew we

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<v Speaker 1>were about to go into the Bachelor's season. It was

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<v Speaker 1>going to get busy for us. And I knew my

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<v Speaker 1>book was coming out in September and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do something special in the release for it. Um. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you guys have heard week after week me talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, but I did. I wrote a book. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a book called little Miss Little Compton. Um. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a memoir. It talks about my family growing up in

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<v Speaker 1>this tiny town in Rhode Island with um an allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>illiterate chief of police and no stoplights in a general store,

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<v Speaker 1>and my parents never dated one another, they were co workers,

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<v Speaker 1>and when New Year's Eve they got engaged on a

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<v Speaker 1>dare and they got married six weeks later and they

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<v Speaker 1>stayed married for fifty years. And it starts with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it talks about my time with my family, and

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<v Speaker 1>then also that I was able to, you know, go

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<v Speaker 1>up with no connections or anything and found my way

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<v Speaker 1>onto an NBC sitcom by the age of twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>and sort of how I did that, and some funny

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<v Speaker 1>stories about accidentally kicking Courtney Cox in the face on

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<v Speaker 1>the set of Friends. Things like that are all in

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<v Speaker 1>the book. So, um, if you guys enjoy what you

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<v Speaker 1>hear on the podcast, it's really my heart is in

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<v Speaker 1>this book. It's truly if you want to get to

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<v Speaker 1>know me, this it's all in there. And um, it

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<v Speaker 1>was probably the most intimate thing I've ever done, next

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. And I actually feel like doing this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast gave me the bravery to kind of open up

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<v Speaker 1>and be a little bit more honest about myself. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that in the past, even in my stand up,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been super personal and just for you long

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<v Speaker 1>time listeners and maybe for some newer ones. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the last few years personally have been wonderful and also

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<v Speaker 1>pretty banana pants batch crazy. Um. But uh yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot that's happened, and all happened during The Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost both of my parents during the podcast season.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of them passed away on weekends, and both of

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<v Speaker 1>both times I ended up doing the podcast on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>because I canceled everything else but the one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do with my podcast, so and it forced

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<v Speaker 1>me to be more open because I couldn't hide what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on. I couldn't hide the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>was in my childhood then with my brother or my

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<v Speaker 1>mom in the first case like so that was this

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<v Speaker 1>was the place that I felt brave enough to start

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<v Speaker 1>sort of telling the truth. So what was fun about

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<v Speaker 1>writing the book was I realized I have all these

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and wonderful friends, none of whom grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, none of whom had any connections, who are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot are large part of who you've gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>know as our regular participants. You know, we've got Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Benedict and Paget Brewster. Um, Aaron Foley was such a joy.

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren Lobkis and I had never really sat down and

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<v Speaker 1>looked at my story, and I was curious just what

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<v Speaker 1>made them them? I know them now, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>curious about how they grew up, where they grew up,

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<v Speaker 1>how they got their start with their family was like.

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<v Speaker 1>And so these episodes are a little more personal. So

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<v Speaker 1>we decided, my sweet sweet Anna, who is here and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been such a joy and such a gift and

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<v Speaker 1>is in the book. Um as are you guys the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast I you know you guys helped put Humpty back together.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really been one of the joys of my life. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But we decided to do a series leading up to

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<v Speaker 1>the release of the book called Feeling Thorny, and so it's, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like, you know, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are wise enough, you get it. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>an intimate look. They're one on one interviews with some

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<v Speaker 1>of your favorite guests that are on and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do more of them in the quarantine. But the

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<v Speaker 1>first person up we just adore and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>him even though I worked with him. I did a

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<v Speaker 1>movie with him years ago, but I didn't really know

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<v Speaker 1>him before the podcast. And what's been so fun about

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, I think for all of us is I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've made all these friends, both like in

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<v Speaker 1>person and you guys, I feel like our listeners were

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<v Speaker 1>the best listeners. But and I don't you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're on this weird little team of like you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of podcast but this is a very

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<v Speaker 1>special little world that we created. Yeah, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>this is my favorite team. And it's just and if

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<v Speaker 1>it's your cup of team, you know, you guys get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I just so Our first one that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to release is Rob benedict Um and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting getting to know him. I mean, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a few coming up. We have Wells Adams, who was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on The Bachelor as a regular. We did

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<v Speaker 1>one with Paget Rooster Um. We did one with Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Folly and Lauren Lobkis. We did one with my boss

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<v Speaker 1>from Instatiable Um. She was the first female showrunner I

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<v Speaker 1>ever worked with and she really wowed me. Lauren Guss

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just curious about like how people found their

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<v Speaker 1>voice owned who they are. And I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you're not a performer, I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully this will be interesting for anybody. So I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you guys really enjoy these. Will be airing them on

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<v Speaker 1>the weeks that they're not you know where they have

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<v Speaker 1>reruns because we want you to have some fun new

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<v Speaker 1>content to listen to when they're torturing us with a

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<v Speaker 1>re repeat of Bachelor Goat. And I'm gonna do another

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<v Speaker 1>giveaway right now. Um, since you guys have been so sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't forget to email in receipts of the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Please get the book. It's really fun, little miss little Compton. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so I'm gonna send a T shirt to

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<v Speaker 1>this person. This is gonna go married demanding you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a T shirt? YEA exciting you guys like these this.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of fun doing these. Feeling thorny,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it interesting? And it was interesting to learn more

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<v Speaker 1>about people in their background and where they came from

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the back. It was interesting. I actually found

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<v Speaker 1>what was interesting was how like how Wells and Rob

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<v Speaker 1>had slightly similar there was aspects of their stories that

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<v Speaker 1>were similar, which surprised me. I mean, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's what we're learning about everyone. It's pretty yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. So we hope you will enjoy a more

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<v Speaker 1>intimate look into the players of the podcasts, and we

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<v Speaker 1>certainly enjoyed doing them, and they'll be a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>them coming up. But ladies and gentlemen are very first

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<v Speaker 1>feeling thorny, Rob Benedict, you know what it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get a little closer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, wanta

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<v Speaker 1>on wan gonna be hot. Energy are gonna be super real.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants to get with Thorny. Yes, sexy. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a very sexy offshoot off. We except this rose feeling Thorny.

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<v Speaker 1>We're only the best of the best are invited into

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<v Speaker 1>my tent, into my lair to really it's like, we

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<v Speaker 1>know we've heard you talking about you're just like a

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<v Speaker 1>five heads. We know how you feel about James Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody coming out with a guitar, But now is

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<v Speaker 1>a time to really like, let's just like take some

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<v Speaker 1>ayahuasca and get to know one another. You guys, you've

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<v Speaker 1>been waiting for it. You're like, who is who is

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<v Speaker 1>it going to be Bachelor of the your that's Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>of the your skip fourteen fifteen, Bachelor of Your sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>not seventeen nineteen. Robert. Hi, Okay, exciting. So nice to

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<v Speaker 1>see you. I mean, and it's so it'll be so

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<v Speaker 1>odd to have a real conversation with you. I'm like terrified. No,

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<v Speaker 1>this is great. You've got no notes because there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>an episode last night. I have no notes. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I do have notes, sure, but I mean you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going through an episode. No, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>through a No. It is it's like it's like we

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<v Speaker 1>can go anywhere we want. We can go off roating

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<v Speaker 1>for those listeners at home. I'm doing this in case

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know. I have a book coming out this fall,

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<v Speaker 1>so called Little Miss Little Compton that you can pre

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<v Speaker 1>order right now, you know what, And I'm begging you

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<v Speaker 1>please pre order it. I desperate. All I want in

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<v Speaker 1>life is to be on the best seller list. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>you need eight thousand sales. It's all about the pre orders.

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<v Speaker 1>Get one, get one for your sister. Just order it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget you ordered it, and think of it like ambient Santa,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you take some Ambi and order a few and

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<v Speaker 1>a few months later it'll arrive. You don't know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I'm gonna do it. Are you gonna do it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm excited to read it because I haven't read

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<v Speaker 1>it yet. I think it's really good. I'm exciting. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think I actually did a good job. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe now is the Bachelor podcast in there? Yes

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Excited, Yes it is. I actually so. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an interesting thing writing it, and also in a

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<v Speaker 1>weird way, I feel like the podcast has helped me

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<v Speaker 1>get a little more honest and get to know people more.

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<v Speaker 1>It's surprised. Who would have ever thought a Bachelor podcast? Do?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have like a real intimate group

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<v Speaker 1>of friends from this me too, for sure. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>people for me, you know, I don't you work with

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<v Speaker 1>people like Debbie Ryan like for me. I know we're

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<v Speaker 1>through this, but I feel like she's a really good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like, honestly, I feel like that's how

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<v Speaker 1>and Paget and every but all of you, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>what about the same level, Like I knew a little

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<v Speaker 1>and I liked and then this was a way to

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<v Speaker 1>come in and to have almost like we have. We're

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<v Speaker 1>on a sports team where we play or we play

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<v Speaker 1>like chess, or like when you travel with somebody and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you become better friends because you

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<v Speaker 1>go through that experience together, or worse friends. Sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>travel and that Okay, starting right there. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>had have you ever gone on a trip with a

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<v Speaker 1>buddy that you're like, I feel like this happens more

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<v Speaker 1>with women, but like, have you ever been like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go do this and then you start traveling with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody and then you see that they're like really uptight

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Um, I always dread it if I have

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<v Speaker 1>to travel with someone that I don't know that well, yeah, scary. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And um, certainly I've had some bad trips with like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, girlfriends and stuff. But um, the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>comes to mind is my friend when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I like, my best friend is this guy, Trevor. And

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor is like my family's best friend. He's just he

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<v Speaker 1>grew up with me and my brother. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>a brother boy wasn't in our family, brother from another mother. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we when I moved to l A, he

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<v Speaker 1>he came out to visit me and we took a

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<v Speaker 1>roach together and just he has really bad habits that

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<v Speaker 1>he never really knew, like what littering you know? Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>he had, yeah he had, he would yeah he would

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<v Speaker 1>like blows nose in a in a cleanex and throw

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<v Speaker 1>it out the window and I yea, yeah yeah are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing you can't do that. We had a huge

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<v Speaker 1>fun end. Would I would pick up his for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say I do as a comedy choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Like watching Anchor Man, I did always find it so

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<v Speaker 1>funny when they were just literally like, littering is such

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<v Speaker 1>a funny comedy device. Mad Men did it too, did they?

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<v Speaker 1>They had a picnic and then they just like just

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<v Speaker 1>it is like do I do think in a script?

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<v Speaker 1>I am appalled at littering. It's and it happens you

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<v Speaker 1>drive behind someone in l a we can do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're scared to say something Oh oh yeah, no

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<v Speaker 1>you can't because you'll go psycho. Now. You grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in Missouri, Columbia, Missouri, many brothers and sisters, youngest of four. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got an oldest sister's like late fifties, and then

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<v Speaker 1>another sister and then a brother was three years older

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<v Speaker 1>than me. Wow. Yeah, so I'm very much younger child,

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<v Speaker 1>youngest child. Yeah, and um, I know you were at

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<v Speaker 1>your brother was like an athlete. Your brother was like

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<v Speaker 1>basketball six ft four and he was like star athlete

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. So I was, you know not, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember because I remember when we did sketch Fest, remember

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<v Speaker 1>that photo Anna, Yeah, with your girl. So were you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>were you like super popular like during because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like my brother, my brother and I were both also

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<v Speaker 1>the smallest. We were tiny. I was too young for

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<v Speaker 1>my class and we both grew really late. I was

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<v Speaker 1>really tiny, and I was really popular. I used I

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<v Speaker 1>just used it to my advantage because I was always

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<v Speaker 1>the littlest in my class. And um, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>used humor as my kind of my thing. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because like, I don't know, do you think with

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like some of those with guys, like the

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<v Speaker 1>humor makes you popular with girls, it makes you neutered

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<v Speaker 1>and well liked. Friend zone Yeah, I mean I was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely friend zone. I wasn't popular like all the girls

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<v Speaker 1>wanted me. I was everybody's friend. But you had a

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<v Speaker 1>cute girlfriend, well, yeah she was. She was my neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>and so like for about five years, like literally from

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<v Speaker 1>like second grade on, it was like she's my girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>but like nothing ever happened. She was just my girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>That picture is so cute. Yeah, and she's a foot tall,

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<v Speaker 1>like a foot taller. I loved it. She grew and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. It's interesting that like that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that many people that were popular early on. I did

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well. Like as a kid, I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and in high school too, like yeah, I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of my friends like you know, fun high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I hated high school. Like for me, I did pretty well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how was college was? It was there? It was? It

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<v Speaker 1>was like it was because there was a reset button.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, wait on, the popular guy from high school

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<v Speaker 1>be popular in college? Did you popular all the way

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<v Speaker 1>they were? No? No, no no. I was popular with

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<v Speaker 1>my I guess with my groups, but no, no in college. Like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, I went to Northwestern, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of smart people. Yeah, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>valedictorian in my high school and you know, big shot.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I went to college and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was valictoria the high school, so like you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>not important, and that is a very I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>Northwestern in particular, Um, it's almost like an ivy and

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like there's more of a love for

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<v Speaker 1>like people who go to I feel like it's more

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<v Speaker 1>Ride or Die Northwestern Number one. Like if you particularly

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<v Speaker 1>and were part of that whole theater crowd, did you

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<v Speaker 1>do like improv of miyow and all that stuff? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know for those of you, So Chicago was like

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<v Speaker 1>a huge I actually started doing like comedy and improv

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. And I remember there was a kid I

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<v Speaker 1>was nineteen and there was this kid, Ed Herbsman, who

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<v Speaker 1>was also nineteen, and he he was at Northwestern. We

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<v Speaker 1>were the two teenagers and he was part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Miao Show. And so like the Miya Show. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>prestige like very hard to get into, very prestigious good

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<v Speaker 1>college improv? Yeah, our mutual friend Bruce was show was

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<v Speaker 1>he was it intimidating to like as far as acting

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff goes, Like with the talent level at Northwestern,

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<v Speaker 1>did you feel intimidated? Um No, that was one area.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't quite feel intimidated. We all were coming into

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<v Speaker 1>it at the same level of inexperience and um no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you in college you have that weird sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like confidence about certain things. And that's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I always was like with my acting stuff. I always felt,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really confident with that and that and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I found my group within the theater school theater school,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I also found my group within the fraternity system.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so interesting. But um, yeah, but I wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. I just was a really good student.

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<v Speaker 1>So sorry, that's so loud? Am I crazy? Is the

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<v Speaker 1>typing like crazy? I think we're good. I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we're with Okay, okay, okay, I I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we're at CNN. I know, like it's okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just writing down everything about it's okay. We can do

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<v Speaker 1>it at the end. We could do the gist at

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<v Speaker 1>the okay, so I know you're actually joining in scientology

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<v Speaker 1>right now, we're getting all of your secrets. This is

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<v Speaker 1>our e meter And then tell me and then tell

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<v Speaker 1>me more. Have you watched that Leah Remini scientology thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating. What made her quit? Why did she stop?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you just have it like a come to Jesus moment?

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<v Speaker 1>Because she was deep in Yeah, I read her book.

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<v Speaker 1>It was because of the basically she was starting to

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<v Speaker 1>slowly question things. And then there was kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>showdown at the Tom Cruise wedding. Uh, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it we started with Katie Holmes. Yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff went down and they were trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>her to pull Jennifer Lopez in and she kind of

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you get and shows more about Scientology than

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute. So they were trying to get her

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<v Speaker 1>to get j Lo at the Tom Cruise wedding. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were like, invite ja little Tom Cruise wedding

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was like Tom Cruise would like to

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<v Speaker 1>take Tom Cruise and kid would love to take a

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<v Speaker 1>walk with Jennifer Lopez and he was Mark Anthony after

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding or something. It was like it was being

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<v Speaker 1>weird about and so Scientology turned on her and started

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, you're being bad. You're being a suppressant

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<v Speaker 1>person because you're not basically giving us full access to

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Lopez. It was like, and that was just one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things, Like other things were happening as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but she started to be like that's weird, Like should

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's what? Should I read the book? Should

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<v Speaker 1>I read the book? I mean, if you would like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good book. It takes you. She started in

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<v Speaker 1>scientology when she was like a child, right, so she

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<v Speaker 1>was she it was like her family. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think so okay, okay, because your scientology chapter

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<v Speaker 1>is it is amazing. It's amazing. You know what. I

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<v Speaker 1>just liked to like suit cants on my shoulder. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a sexual time out. So I we were

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<v Speaker 1>part of my My book is about my family. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll about coming to l A and I know

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about you, but like and we've I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've gotten to know you more. Um at

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<v Speaker 1>festivals and stuff like that. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah when

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<v Speaker 1>you travel, um, but you're your did your dad It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I had a very tricky dad and you find

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<v Speaker 1>out out about it. I had a great mom, tricky dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Your dad? Did he leave? Was that? So when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like twelve, Um, he just started not being around

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<v Speaker 1>as much. And like I was again, I was very

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<v Speaker 1>much the youngest not told anything. Which has become an

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<v Speaker 1>issue in my later in my life is like I've

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<v Speaker 1>had I have trust issues because I don't believe you

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<v Speaker 1>when you tell me something. Because lots of like my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and my older siblings were like, it's fine, Robbie,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about It's fine. And then before I know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing my mom talk on the phone. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>listening on the second floor listening to my mom on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone and the first floor talking about my dad's affair.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad's had a fair so I adults don't think

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<v Speaker 1>kids kids know what's going to get in and when

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<v Speaker 1>you're little like kids no way more than people realize.

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<v Speaker 1>And I asked my mom, I said, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>And my mom will never gets said, your dad just

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<v Speaker 1>has a very close relationship with somebody who works with

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like, I'm not an idiot. Yeah, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>so and this is this weird is a twelve year

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<v Speaker 1>old there's just this weird sort of like um fear.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it settles in in your chest. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>quite sure what it is or what she means. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what she's not saying, but you don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>she's not saying. Were you close with your dad at

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<v Speaker 1>that point? Yeah, that's the thing. Is my from zero

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<v Speaker 1>to ten, I I thought I had an ideal life,

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<v Speaker 1>like we had this great house. Columbia, Missouri is a

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<v Speaker 1>great town. It's like a university town. So it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Austin of Missouri. Wow. Okay, yeah, it's it's this one

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<v Speaker 1>little liberal nook in the middle of Missouri, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a very red state. Now. Um and so we had

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<v Speaker 1>like R. E. M. Came to play like you have

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<v Speaker 1>this liberal thinking college. Everyone goes to colleges University of Missouri. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's the state school. Great so um So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so so you had this idea like football or baseball

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<v Speaker 1>catch on the front yard, you know. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>then after he turned asshole, there are things that you're like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that was kind of One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>is my dad thought I was too short, and he

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<v Speaker 1>made me go to this growth doctor. Um. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was all through my teenage years. I had to go

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<v Speaker 1>to this growth doctor because he wanted me to be

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<v Speaker 1>as tall as my brother. And then he also teaches

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<v Speaker 1>you that something's wrong with you. Totally totally did you

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<v Speaker 1>take it in big time, big time my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's still walking room and think I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>shortest guy in the room. Think about it. I just

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<v Speaker 1>found out that the average American height of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>is shorter than me, which is crazy. I I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm ridiculously short. I'm actually not for American men.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny though, like the stuff that it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>shake even when you know better, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>my dad all he was so he would just call

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<v Speaker 1>me fat and like me truly, like and just this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like he just would just be like who would

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<v Speaker 1>want to marry you? Like just awful And so then

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of know, like this doesn't sound like a

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<v Speaker 1>happy person telling me, and he had it's also like

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<v Speaker 1>your parents, you know, and so it's hard not to take.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do have a theory that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite people have bad dad. I feel like our

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<v Speaker 1>generation had a lot of bad dad. Yeah. Yeah. We

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<v Speaker 1>were saying before we started the podcast that when someone

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<v Speaker 1>says they have a good dad, you're like, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>really what Katie was saying She's got a good dad,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, weird, Anna has a tricky dad,

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<v Speaker 1>not a great dad. Yeah, it's an interesting Did your

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<v Speaker 1>mom and I get divorced? Did you know they stayed

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<v Speaker 1>married till the end? They were always home, he was

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<v Speaker 1>always he was just a jerk to me. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like me. Why I don't know. And honestly, like when

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<v Speaker 1>I really look back, and I didn't put this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in the book because it's almost like too dark. But

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<v Speaker 1>like he was awful to me literally from the day

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<v Speaker 1>I got home from the hospital, like he held me

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<v Speaker 1>in the like you know, baby's necks aren't developed, Like

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<v Speaker 1>my first day home from the hospital, he held me

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<v Speaker 1>in the head in the doorway, like do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Like so I think he'd made up

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<v Speaker 1>his mind, like he was just gonna tease. He just

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<v Speaker 1>was just a bullet. I don't think my brother's older,

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of you know, he wasn't a good dad

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<v Speaker 1>to either of us, but I think there was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a man to man thing. I'm like, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk business. But my brother was little, and he

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<v Speaker 1>always kept treating my brother, who is who is a

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<v Speaker 1>straight man and not the like from the time he

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<v Speaker 1>was five, he was like, you know, treating him like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you better watch out in the shower, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're a little guy, you know what. I was like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just a very inappropriate was aware of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was like that was I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>my I mean greatest lady, e our greatest mom, but

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<v Speaker 1>her achilles heel was it was it was him was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like um and and like, oh he didn't

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 1>mean it, you know, like that kind of you're like, well,

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a horrible thing to do. And as

0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>an adult, did you ever talk? Oh? Yeah, we did.

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>There was a year where I didn't talk to anybody

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 1>in my family for a whole year, I know. And

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's interesting. I think we just sort

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of agreed to disagree, you know. It's like yeah, and

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>like and I also realized, like at a certain point,

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I realized I had to let her off the hook

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>of like it's not my business. Uh you know, I

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>think I kept trying to wake her up, and it's like,

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not my business to know. Like, I don't know

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>why she disliked he rang her bell. He was her

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.360
<v Speaker 1>cup of tea, you know. And so and I think

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:24.879
<v Speaker 1>realizing and that's her husband, and so it's like if

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go visit her, he's going to be there.

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>And so it was also like okay, for like, he

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>was so rude about my career, So it was like

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>what can I talk like news? Weather, sports? You know.

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 1>It was just very I'd be polite with him, but

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't share much that then he could mock. Yeah,

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>And I think that what you're saying too is part

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>of growing up. You get to a certain point when

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you've moved out, you're on your and you finally maybe

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 1>even in your thirties, and you're like, oh, okay, oh

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>now I have a different perspective on everything that went on,

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and that that was my big thing, is like I

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>ultimately I so he so finally, so after I found

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>out that he was having an affair, of course, sourcefully,

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>then he just kind of started just like leaving. He'd

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>just go. He would leave for like a week and

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>come back, leave for a long weekend and come back.

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>They still married, still married, And I had to tell

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.159
<v Speaker 1>friends who would spend the night on the weekends that

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 1>he was on a business trip. My mom and always

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>he's on a business trip. Saving face was a big deal.

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, my dad want to rehab and they're like, say,

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>we're just going to We're going to Mexico. So he

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:26.439
<v Speaker 1>drank right, um yeah, And my parents were drinkers. My

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>parents were like mad men, just like made My mom

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>would make my dad two scotches when he got home

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 1>from wife. That was his third life. My mom was

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the housewife in my network. And then my dad would

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 1>just go. And there were two weeks, then we come

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>a month like then we just like yeah. And then

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 1>finally my mom, um, they we moved out of our

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>house and we moved just me and my mom and

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>my brother because my sisters were gone. So that's a

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty big about faith. I mean, that's a pretty big

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 1>zero to ten. Yeah, we moved into a condo and

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>then he was gone. Do you ever do you have

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 1>any contact with him? No? You know, So he was gone,

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and then he would kind of you know, and then

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 1>again he would come back for a little bit and

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>then go. And then he moved in with his mom

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>my grandmother, um. And then he finally moved into with

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:13.919
<v Speaker 1>this woman and um, he moved in with her. They

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>were still married though I was still married and still

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of saving face. And and then when I went

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 1>to colleges, when I was like, that was fucked up.

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just weird that he was really married. He just

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>was gone. He just was gone. And he never sat

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>down with me and said, listen, I'm going through this thing,

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:32.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, and now that I'm a father, I'm very

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>aware of all that stuff. And like he he never

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>had to talk with me. I was never ever told

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>what was going on. He just was gone. And then um,

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's when I got mad. I went to college

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'm mad. How of course how could not? Of

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.360
<v Speaker 1>course he did. And you know that he missed all

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>my good stuff, missed the good stuff and the bad stuff.

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, if I had a problem with the girl,

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't there. And if I when I was valedictorian, like,

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't there. That's when when my dad died, I

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>was surprised because he was dying forever. But I remember

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>how much reef I had, Like I knew I tried

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>everything that I was, like that he missed every everything

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I had no interest, and like just the pain of like, wow,

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you missed that on like a pretty great kid. You know,

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm aware of. Two Like my son now

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>is a sophomore in school. He's gonna be gone in

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years. Like, cherish every minute you can with,

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:23.959
<v Speaker 1>not only just if you have kids or not, but

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>like just fucking life and just be honest. So there

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>was this one for seven years he was gone. He

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>was gone, but they were married and then finally confusing

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and nobody's talking about it. Did you talk about it

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>with your siblings? Yeah, my brother, my you know, my

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>my mom went to this whole period she was drinking

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>because she couldn't handle it. My brother and I were

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>just it was about trying to keep my mom healthy.

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>You know. My high school career was was weird because

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have I didn't have a parents report to.

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Um my, my house is kind of known as the

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>cool one because we could keep beer in the first

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 1>because she was barely keeping it together, right, that's right.

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know we would find like out it is

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it's fun and you're like it's fun for your friends,

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, okay, yeah, it's fun if it's not

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>your parents. Um. And then I went to college my sophomore.

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.199
<v Speaker 1>You're in college. She finally divorced him good and he

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>got married like five months later to the same lady.

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Do they have kids? Know how? And so yeah, So

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>then I was like then and it's not like then

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>he was like, I'm so sorry he's this is this

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>is not a cool dude? No, mine wasn't it. That

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>was the thing too. I think for years I wanted

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>like a sorry, and then I was like, oh, that's

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>never like and I think I had stuff where I

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>would write me too. I sent letters. I sent letters,

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and it was just like ammunition, I will say, like

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>there was a certain freedom of like okay, and even

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>in like in reading the book, like like obviously like

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a funny book, but it's also an honest book

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and realizing, like I think, I think when I started

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>to become more okay, was like, all right, so I

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>have this great mom, I have a great broad are like,

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>why can't rather than like a four legged stool, Why

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>can't I just be like or a four leg good

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>share Why can't I just be a well formed three

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>legged stool, right, rather than like a hobbly Like, Okay,

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>it just didn't happen. And it doesn't mean like I

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>certainly will be affected for the rest of my life.

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I like, I certainly have effects from growing up with him,

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>but like just kind of like it didn't happen, right,

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Like it's there's so many people on the earth who

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>do want to pay attention to you. Yeah, yeah, and

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you know there's people that have it worse, but yeah,

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you know as an actor to you, um, you know,

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you find yourself in going out for roles with other

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>actors who feel like they've got a better sense of

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>self than you. Because my sense of self was not

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>um matured at all. I was still very much a

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>twelve year old boy who was hurt by my father

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and I I I you know, I was jealous of

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>some other kids, my age, kids in their twenties who

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>were out here and just had this sense of like

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>great sense of self. I am, I'm great cause my

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>mom told me it was great every day. My mom

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>told me to hide it every day. But like, yeah,

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>but when you're like, I know that feelings is a huge,

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>huge stereotype and you know whatever. But um, a lot

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>of my Jewish friends I felt like, really had a

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>great sense of self. I feel like it's in a

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of the Jewish culture that the mom's adore the boys,

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be this boy. There's not no one better

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>than this boy. I have friends who have Jewish friends

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>who have sons, and they're like, no one's better than myself.

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>And so the sun grows up with this. I mean,

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 1>it's all healthy and it's not weird that you've got

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>with this great sense of so why not me? Why

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>not me? Where I'm walking the room going like not me, no, no,

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I believe me. I know. I walk in still feeling

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>like barbed from stranger things at all times. Yeah, and

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and and it's a fucked up thing, right because of

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>what we do. My whole hiding, my dad having left,

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>hiding that, not hearing the truth from people about what

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>was going on, my dad never telling me the truth,

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>my dad ever apologized, your coming clean anything. Then I'm

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>going in these audition rooms and I'm trying. I'm auditioning

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>for this role, and I'm so parent. I'm like, what

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>are they thinking about? What do you think about? Right?

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Do I suck? Do I suck on my suck? Suck?

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? That whole thing that was

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>hard for me to get over all of that, I'll

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>tell you. I'll tell you what was an interesting thing

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>which started to help me a little bit was I

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>when I started doing stand up later and I at

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>first started doing it just for money, like because Bobby Lee,

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>who was I was on Mad TV with, and then

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>we were on Chelsea Lately together, and which was so fun,

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and Chelsea Lately was really helping make stand ups careers,

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and but you pay it's, you know, so delighted to

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>be a part of it in the payment you make

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>like surrender Bucks, but like it's the fun of the

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>exposure and people get to know who you are. And

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>remember Bobby was like art and like you're the only

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>one that's not capitalizing on this, Like you have the

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>same all the day, same TV credits, but like I'm

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>going out on the weekends and I'm making X number

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>of dollars every weekend, Like you could be doing that too,

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and so like at first I was like terrified of it,

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>but I started doing it, and then like I felt

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>like I had to play catch up because I'd always

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>done improv or sketch, um, So you know, it's like

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>playing basketball or soccer, and then all of a sudden,

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing baseball. Um. But like was like quickly there

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>was a very steep learning curve because I was quickly

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>starting to get booked in things I probably shouldn't have

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>been getting booked in earlier. But I noticed like I

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 1>had written one set that I thought was what people

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>wanted to see, and I felt like it was actually everything,

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Like as I was recording them, and listening back and

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I would improve things. It was actually like my flaws

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>or the things that I thought was the worst about me,

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that was more relatable to people that like actually was

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>like everything I'm trying to hide is actually is what

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>makes you a good performer, Like and that's actually what

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>people want to see, and nobody wanted to hang out

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>with a perfect person. Like that was such an eye

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.719
<v Speaker 1>opening thing, and I feel like I started getting more

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>interesting acting roles and I was like, actually the talent

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>is where like that what I'm trying to hide from

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you is like the damn it, the more vulnerable you

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>can bet You're so so rob Is. I first got

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>to know who you were from Headcase. You're so good

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>on that. This was a show Ali went Worth. Was

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>it all improvised? Yeah? Was that fun? One of the

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>best acting experiences I ever had because of her ex

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>husband or her brother, her boyfriend, boyfriend. But I was

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>an agent who was trying to um trying. I was

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>just kind of a sleazy dude, and I was trying

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>to get clients by sleeping with her so that I

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>could get her clients and make them my own. Oh

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>my god, because she was she was the therapist at

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the Stars. You were so good on that, so charismatic?

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Was that was that a fun experience? Yeah? It was great.

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>It was again it was I don't even know how

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I got it like that. It was one of the

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>things where they called me, They're like, hey, is Rob

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>available to come play with us today? So I went

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>down and did a day where she had we just

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>had a date and they liked what I did, so

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.239
<v Speaker 1>they kept bringing me back, and then even audition they

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>started doing, and then I was just yeah, and then

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of a series regular for season two.

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>What happened in that show? It just fizzles away. They

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>we did like did she like to have seasons or

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>two seasons? It felt like she didn't want to do it.

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>She didn't really want to do it stuff. Yeah, she

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of had a different thing going, and you know,

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>she's an East Coast person, married, she's very much like

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>d C in New York and kind of wanted to

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>be back there. So it kind of you know, story

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>of my life. I mean, you know, like been in

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>so many projects where it's like everything is such great

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>potential and then just oh my god, what's your what

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>was your favorite creative like creatively, what was the most

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>fun job you ever had? I mean, that's one of

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>them really because what we did, we would do it

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>was it was Curb Your Enthusiasm. Yeah, it was so good.

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>So we'd come in and they go Bobby Bauer who

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>was the executive producer, who was awesome and so much fun,

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, Okay, so this is what what

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>we're going to do. You're you're breaking up with her

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in this scene, so let's just go. So so we

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 1>do it, and we and we do and we go

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 1>and it would be pretty long and sad. Great, keep

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that part, lose that part, get to this quicker, it's

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>tew it again, and you do it like eight takes.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean there was a moment in time when Curb

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Your Enthusiasm started and there was like eight thousand improv

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>shows and like you can tell the people like not

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>every like there's a reason there's writers, you know what

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like, and I felt like your show was

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 1>done so well. Yeah, yeah, no, it was. Creatively was

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the best experiences. Um yeah, and I you know,

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>had high hopes. We were also on the same network

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>with Stars with um what was the waiting tables? Yeah,

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>with um uh. I did an episode called Gosh with

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Lizzi Kaplan and Adam Scott and it was called Party Down,

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Party Down, and that was like the daring. You guys

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>were the duel, Yeah, but they were like the darling.

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 1>We were like the bastardstupchild a little bit. And then

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.439
<v Speaker 1>Stars was like, we're not doing comedy exactly after that. Um,

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:54.320
<v Speaker 1>first celebrity encounter. First celebrity encounter. So when my sister

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Amy she Um went to Northwestern and she was a

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>theater major and I basically followed in her foots up.

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>She came out at l A and I kind of followed.

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>She's six years older than me. Um. She came out

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>to l A. She's an actress. She's an actress. And

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>she did you have a sister here that's an act yea. Yeah,

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and now she's kind that's crazy. Yeah, she does like

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>commercials and stuff. Now she has a family and she's

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, but yeah, and she um she so um

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>she got out here. Um. She we're from Missouri. So

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>they someone a mutual friend called and said, Hey, there's

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.919
<v Speaker 1>this guy from the University of Missouri just dropped out

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and he's coming down l A. He needs a place

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>to live, and I thought of you, and she's like sure.

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>So his name is Brad Pitt and he my sister

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>when he first moved out together for like two years. Yeah,

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 1>and your sister was remained in friend Yeah, was that

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 1>right before you've done Louise? Did he get someone Louise

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 1>living with her at the end? Yeah? He first big

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 1>things he got a commercial. Was she like, holy shit,

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>this guy's hot. Sorry I had to cut you off. Yea, yeah,

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>she was was commercial. They were like brothers sister. They

0:36:58.239 --> 0:36:59.959
<v Speaker 1>never slept together anything. It was like they were just friends,

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>their buddies. But yeah, he was like beautiful and she

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, my god, my roommate's beautiful and he's

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>got Yeah, so she's great. Pictures like candid pictures of

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>them just goofing around the Apartment's amazing. I I never

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 1>met her. My mom met him because my mom would

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.399
<v Speaker 1>fly out to see her and met him. And then

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>he got a big, like Mountain Dew commercial, and that

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>was like a big deal. I remember watching it on

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>TV and going like, oh my god, that's so that's

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Sammy's roommate. Okay. And then when I moved out to

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>l A finally in three, Um, I my friend Kim Williams,

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>who was a theater major Northwestern who got got Father

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>of the Bride while we were at school was Steve Martin.

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>It was a big deal. Yeah, it was a really

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>big deal. And so she kind of had a little

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 1>bit of a celebrity. So we we I got out

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>to l A. I moved out when she moved out,

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 1>were and I roomed with her boyfriend and she was like, Hey,

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm I've got to stickets to go see this movie premiere.

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to come with me? And it was, uh,

0:37:54.719 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>what's the movie with um Patricia Arquet and and there

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and written by um? Uh I can I can not

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 1>remember anything? It was written by Quentin Tarantino. Okay, okay, okay,

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're gunning people down and

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>it's her in Christian Slater. Yes, I went to the

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>true moment. Brad pitts in the movie. Brad pitt was there,

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and first of I saw a lot of celebrities. I

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, first like big, but I went be lying

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.799
<v Speaker 1>to Brad Pitt and I was just like, hey, maybe

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>a brother. Oh my god. I'm like, oh my god,

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love that with Brad Pitt, and

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, it's gonna be amazing. Okay,

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute. Who was the thing you were telling

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>us when we did that podcast with Janine? Who was

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>your who did you freak out Eddie Eddie Better? Yeah? Yeah,

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 1>and I had an Eddie Vetter. How did you freak

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>out Eddie Vetter? Again? Um? Well? I love Eddie Vetter

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and I met him twice. The first time I was

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 1>at La Llapaluzam when he wasn't even famous enough. He

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>was like walking around looking at things during the festival.

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>They played it like two in the afternoon Pearl Jam.

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>So I went up to and I was like, hey,

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Vetterer, I'm a big fan, and I was a

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of take your picture and like we didn't have phones,

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>we just had an actual camera, and he was like,

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't really do pictures, but like I'll remember you,

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and he kind of looked at my eyes and pointed

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>at my eyes and he was like, yeah, I remember you.

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>So for the longest time, I thought I would go

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to the concert and I would think that he was

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 1>looking at it's like it's me. And then finally, when

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>I was a grown person. I went a friend of

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>mine knew Ben Harper, who was opening up on a

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>solo tour, and I found myself in his green room

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the night, me him, Ben Harper,

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and like three or four other people, and I couldn't.

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't. Like he was in conversation, like right next

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:42.360
<v Speaker 1>to me, and I just couldn't get in there to

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>talk to him. And all I could think to do

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 1>was ask him for a cigarette, And without stopping his conversation,

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 1>he just grabbed the pack of cigarettes and just slid

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it over to my and and from at the time,

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yes, you heard me, Oh my god, like,

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.799
<v Speaker 1>but it's me, it's me. That's why Jeanine had one.

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Janina like Janina put mind to waste. I mean, her

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>story was like it was bad. She was she like hammered,

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>something was happening, hammered. She was still drinking at the time.

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>She was hammered, and she basically kind of tried to

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>make out with it. That's right. I remember there was one.

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I remember there was one that ended really interesting. We

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>were like friends and he hasn't and then they're not

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>friends anymore. You know, that, isn't it? So it's so

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 1>funny when you have just like an awkward encounter that

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like you cannot recover from. It was your first celebrity

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I saw. I was. I'm sure this is not my

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>first first, but like my first in l A. I

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>remember I was living in Zack Galfanakis's closet and we

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>went to do karaoke at the gaslight in Santa Monica

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and Keith for Sutherland had just gotten divorced from Julia

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Roberts and he was ship face and he was singing

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe a bon Jovi song like maybe living on

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>a Prayer and before he started singing, and it was

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>like a Tuesday okay, and it's like there's hammered like

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>ate from the tablets, like popular divorcing. Julia Robberts probably

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.320
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a nasty divorce, screams to the crowd,

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>never get fucking married. What there? And then he like,

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember, like we were I was a star strock

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>And then he's like and then we were leaving, and

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>then he stumbled out into the street and like and

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:24.720
<v Speaker 1>then years later he was one of my favorite drunken

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>celebrity videos where he fights the Christmas tree in the

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>hotel lobby, which is incredible. And I will say, um,

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody who shall remain nameless. He my friend used to

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>work at a hotel in New York, and who was

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the guy that was married to Diane Lane and Josh Brolin,

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>So he was staying out. He my friend worked at

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>a hotel and his buddy was a doorman at the

0:41:55.320 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Greenwich Hotel, and um, so Josh Brolin was ang there

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and like he allegedly allegedly like stumbled over the night.

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he might be sober. Now I go like,

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, look, I'm not judging that I've done really stupid,

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 1>but apparently I'm not a strong ascent. Basically, let's just

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>say I could do his equally stupid shit. I'm just

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have the strength. Apparently he was like pounding on

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>like some store window that was like like Caddy corner

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>to the Gretitch Hotel. So it was like a display

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>window that had no door. It was just like a

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>window like just you know, clothing. He was like, let

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>mean Gretitle, okay, like and it's like, you know, a mannequin.

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>And then he goes and he picks up a New

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>York City trash can, which is so heavy and he

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:48.240
<v Speaker 1>takes it and he threw it through like the plateglass window,

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and he was like gret and like the cops came,

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and then the doorman had to go like slide money.

0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>And this is all allegedly, guys, allegedly, I'm not saying

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>this happened. Maybe who knows. Apparently, and then they had

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to like pay that it actually happened, and they paid,

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 1>they had to pay off the I love that the

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>hotel paid for it because I think he like stayed

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 1>there a lot, and I think it was like I

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 1>think they knew that they could build his room, you know,

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>like his publicister, what his business manager would cover it.

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's amazing. I stayed at a hotel one

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>time that was a pretty ritzy hotel with somebody who

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 1>was my sort of celebrity friend who paid for the

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. And my celebrity friend I decided to do

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>mushrooms and we did too many and having to go

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to the hospital. Yeah, and we and then because an

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 1>ambulance came and got us since the hospital is a horrible.

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>It was a long, really funny story. But actually my

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:52.280
<v Speaker 1>celebrity friend hates it when I tell it and I um,

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and but to me, it's just hilarious it happened. So

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 1>then we woant up at this hospital. We have we

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 1>have how do we what we're gonna do? We're in

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the city at a hospital. Up when you,

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 1>by the way, when you o d on mushrooms, you know,

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the doctors like, no one's ever died on mushrooms. You're

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>fine because you think you're dying becase you're on mushrooms,

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.360
<v Speaker 1>but nothing's gonna happen. They put make you eat charcoal.

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, um, so we were there, we don't

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:15.760
<v Speaker 1>have we don't know what to do, and the hotel

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>literally sent a car to pick us up. And right,

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that's right. That's when you see It's like, oh there

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>are there is the Illuminati, like there is that w secret.

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.359
<v Speaker 1>I remember speaking of mushrooms and places you don't want

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 1>to be being at outside lands when I sprained my

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>ankle and we had to hobble to the like medic

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>tent at the medical tent at any music festival is

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>not where you want. You do not want to be

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>having to seek medical attention at a music festival. They

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:44.880
<v Speaker 1>should make you look at it first to get you

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.879
<v Speaker 1>to not do drugs. I mean it was really like

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>how did I end up here? And it was like

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>we hadn't even done our show yet, and like Paget

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>was walking around with bottles of like what is her?

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>She like Savin Blanc and her per screaming I'm too

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 1>famous for the ship. She wanted a she wanted a

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>golf cart, and she had like a puffer coat and

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 1>like stiletto heels and I'm like hobbling. It was a disaster,

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 1>but still fun. I really wish I would have been

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 1>there with you guys. Oh my god, I was doing

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 1>a convention or something. I'm to sketch Fest again. We

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:21.879
<v Speaker 1>just got invited. Are you going? I'll tell you when

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it is? Okay, January, right, yeah, it's January. We just

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a Sunday. Sunday's our time slot. Sunday's our times obviously, yeah, obviously, yes,

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:34.720
<v Speaker 1>the nineteenth Sunday. Then we'll go up on the eighteen. Um, okay,

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, um I okay, drugs, drugs, God, Okay,

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I know I was trying it in the book. I

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:45.399
<v Speaker 1>it's really rust clean always. No, I wasn't always clean.

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm just bad at it. So like I went to

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 1>college in Colorado, I read a whole chapter and has

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 1>read it. I read I read a chapter. Okay, So

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>like writing a book is also like you, I feel

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>like I've forgotten everything you really have to for me

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 1>at least, I was like, what are my most humiliating

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>stories of my entire life? And I do remember. I

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 1>don't think I put this in the book, but like

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I would drink it like a whole bottle of Boone's

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Farm wine, and then like that's when I was like,

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:16.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna smoke pot. And then I would there would

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>be like a super bong that's like ten or twelve

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>feet long. I climb up onto some rickety homemade loft

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:25.919
<v Speaker 1>in a on a dorm room. I would take a

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:31.760
<v Speaker 1>twelve foot bong pole and then flying and like throwing

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 1>up under my rug in a bowl because I felt

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 1>like nobody could find me if I was under the rug,

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>nobody would notice the lump, nobody would see me under

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the hair. I'm safe under hair. Nobody's gonna find me.

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 1>When your cats put their head under a blanket, yeah,

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm safe. My cat does that at the at the

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:55.319
<v Speaker 1>at the vet's like full under the blanket. I'm very

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>bad at drugs. I can I get so high and

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm high for dates and I go straight past giggling

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and I go right to middle Earth. Yeah, I I

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:05.319
<v Speaker 1>used to be that way. I mean, I'm not good

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 1>drugs either. I just keep trying. You do it that.

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I've had other people say that I don't have any

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>good goals. It's just pure paranoia. I've gotten better. Yeah,

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten better at my older age because now I'm

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 1>aware of how little it takes for me. I used

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 1>to just do too much. So there's there's a bottle

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 1>and a twelve foot bond pool was problem. There's a

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 1>way to get just a little high. Yeah, yeah, there's

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a way to get just a little high, just a

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>little tipsy on even drinking, like just moderation. I didn't

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>understand that before young rot. Well, you've got you got.

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 1>You fell in love in college, so you never had awkward.

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>You never had to date and l I never had

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 1>to date. I never had a date. I I met

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 1>someone in college and we got married. Did you have

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend all through high school? Yeah? A couple of girls,

0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>like two girlfriends in high school. And yeah, so you've

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>always been pretty much coupled off. Yeah. Yeah, and again

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I was very much like my I learned from my

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>siblings and they always, like my brother always had a girlfriend.

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>So like, okay, so I'm gonna always have a girlfriend.

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>And you know what I mean, like it just remember

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 1>you're my most socially So it's funny because I so

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 1>how you compare yourself to the guys in the audition room.

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, he's not socially awkward. I get social anxiety,

0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 1>and I look at you, and I think that guy

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 1>knows how to talk to people. Am I right? Yeah

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:22.439
<v Speaker 1>for the most part. I mean yeah, I don't really.

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've always used my whatever anxiety is there.

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't call my anxiety social anxiety, but I have anxiety,

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and I just use it in my you know what

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean. I make I used to do it more

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>than I do now. But I'll make fun of myself

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 1>in the moment. I'll come interrupt a conversation like what

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 1>are you guys talking about? Oh my god, heah. I

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 1>get that you're like what you drinking and drinking honestly,

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I do drink, as it does settle

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 1>my nerves. I'll tell you what, I only I only

0:48:56.680 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 1>really ease off of drinking because of I I am

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 1>so out of control with sweets that like there's too

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:04.759
<v Speaker 1>much sugar and alcohol. So it's more than that I

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.880
<v Speaker 1>just quit sugar. But um, and I'll tell you when

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I quit sugar and then more than like okay, I

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>guess I won't drink. Is like I was like, oh

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.040
<v Speaker 1>there's a reason there's alcal Like it is a good

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:21.479
<v Speaker 1>social lubricant. Is it's relaxing it again its end it Okay,

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, tell me best of like best of

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 1>what you got from like the Benedict, like best of

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the gifts that you were giving growing up, and like

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:32.279
<v Speaker 1>like like what were the unique things from your house

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>that you think we're the best of? Um? Um, we're

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>very we are very social people and good around other people. Um.

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 1>My parents were in a community theater and that's where

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I got the sort of theater bug. Um. But really,

0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:52.880
<v Speaker 1>honestly because of what happened with my dad, my siblings

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and I and my mom all really bonded together. So

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 1>like we to this day. I'm very very close with

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 1>my siblings, very close with my mom, my brother, my

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 1>mom and I were I was like it's the three

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>of us and the guy and the dead. Yeah yeah, yeah,

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 1>you just naturally do right yeah. Um yeah, And I

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's moved from this place of anger to

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 1>like we're all just like positive. Yeah yeah, but you're

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 1>close with all of them yeah yeah yeah. And like

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:20.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, my such lives here and I get to

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 1>see her and my brother and I talk almost every day,

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean a text almost every day. Um. Yeah, it's

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:30.880
<v Speaker 1>we're tight, It's we're good. Funny family, funny hum humor

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 1>is really huge. I don't know what people talk about

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>if they don't make jokes. Like I'm truly like, I

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 1>literally don't know what people talk I don't either, and

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.360
<v Speaker 1>like or if you're dating, like what do people? What

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 1>do people? What do you talk about? Year four? Like,

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you talk about? Yeah? If honestly,

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're not laughing on the first date, it's not

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:52.320
<v Speaker 1>going to work. No yeah no, um, but yeah, I

0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>know for me, humor was a big I mean, my

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:57.719
<v Speaker 1>my my uncle on one side is really hilarious. My

0:50:57.719 --> 0:50:59.799
<v Speaker 1>aunt on the other side, it's hilarious. Like you you're

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:03.439
<v Speaker 1>the family has humor and like funny movies. He loved

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 1>my movie. I know. I remember I was grateful to

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 1>have an older brother and a funny My mom would

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 1>record SNL for me when I was in like second grade.

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 1>We would watch like Monty Python and Witty Allen before

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 1>we knew he was totally creepy, Like I was, like,

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 1>had a good education, you know. Yeah. I like when

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.080
<v Speaker 1>people ask me what my music influences are, I'm always like, well,

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I love Michael Jackson when it was okay, Yeah, I

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:29.759
<v Speaker 1>loved him. I loved him he was when I was

0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:32.720
<v Speaker 1>sad to lose Um. Do you guys have any questions

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 1>for Rob? How fun? I have to say it's been

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 1>such a joy getting to know it's fun too. I

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:39.799
<v Speaker 1>feel like I've now known you. This isn't coming on

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 1>four years, and like it's fun to actually I'm happy

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>to get to like to get and for the listeners

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to get to know. What was great about my relationship

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:49.399
<v Speaker 1>with you is it like we I knew who you were.

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I knew who you were starting with Mad TV because

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 1>our friend Bruce worked on Mad TV and then now

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:59.360
<v Speaker 1>runs RuPaul drag Ray exactly, and before that, Nicole Sullivan.

0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 1>The reason any us knew about Mat TV's I'm like

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 1>really friends with Nicky Sullivan that she was in the

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.879
<v Speaker 1>original cast, So that was like mad TV was always

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:07.799
<v Speaker 1>a big part of my external life because I knew

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:09.759
<v Speaker 1>all the people had been out of it. And then

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 1>so I knew who you were then. And then you

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:13.439
<v Speaker 1>and I both were in a movie that we never

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>had scenes that we did a movie together a little

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>help and and and then I remember talking to you

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:22.279
<v Speaker 1>at one of Bruce's Halloween party. You were addressing you

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.320
<v Speaker 1>had like you had like you had like short shorts

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:30.359
<v Speaker 1>and like knee high socks and like like Prefontaine. Yeah, yeah,

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and um, and then you asked me to do this.

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>It was such a joy. Yeah, and it was like

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 1>this is when we actually became friends. Yeah, I love it. Yeah,

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's so funny. We've built a weird little team.

0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I know it is. It's totally do you guys, And

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you didn't meet Heightener until San Francisco. Yeah, he didn't disappoint. No,

0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:54.040
<v Speaker 1>he's amazing. He's amazing. He's amazing. He's amazing. Crew and Aaron.

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I love Aaron. She just got hired on one day

0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 1>at a time. She's a staff writer. Is that eating

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I know, I love I love I love Paget, I

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:06.799
<v Speaker 1>love the whole crew. It truly is like I've never been. Um,

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I was not on a lot of teams, and so

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like in theater clubs and stuff, but like

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you don't have a lot of teams. But that's the

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.319
<v Speaker 1>thing about is like again, I had this great high

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:17.040
<v Speaker 1>school experience with then you get to college and then

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 1>you go out and you're in the real world and

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:21.239
<v Speaker 1>like your team's dwindle and then in l A you

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.080
<v Speaker 1>have to latch out. You have to find your team now.

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:24.839
<v Speaker 1>And this is a fun team because I actually feel

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 1>like we play a weird sport. Like I feel like

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.719
<v Speaker 1>we all play the sport of the bat high or something. Um,

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:37.239
<v Speaker 1>we play highlight. I don't know about you, but things

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.799
<v Speaker 1>are getting so hot in here. I think I gotta

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 1>take I'll pay your break you guys. Um, yeah, did

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:49.680
<v Speaker 1>we cover everything we wanted to cover? I feel like,

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 1>is there anything you want to say? Do you have

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>a most embarrassing, most embarrassing adolescent Did you ever, like

0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:59.720
<v Speaker 1>have an epic fail of asking out a girl or anything?

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:02.399
<v Speaker 1>All the time, all the time, I was so bad

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 1>at um, you know, up until when I asked my

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 1>wife to marry me. Was I was? I said, I

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:10.399
<v Speaker 1>was wondering if you wouldn't mind marrying me so much? Yeah,

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I screwed up the line. You said, I was

0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 1>wondering if you wouldn't mind marrying me so much? Yeah? Yeah,

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:17.319
<v Speaker 1>at yamashiros have in Hollywood. Wait a minute, you got

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 1>engaged at Yeah? Were you done on one knee when

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:21.799
<v Speaker 1>you said I was? No. I sat next to her

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and there we were sitting across from each other, and

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I gave her this card. At the end of the card,

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I said, Okay, put the car down and look at me.

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I always wondering. I find that son deering. I find

0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:36.360
<v Speaker 1>that I think that's so extra cute. I was wondering

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:38.360
<v Speaker 1>if you want am I marrying me so much? But

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to me in

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:44.760
<v Speaker 1>my life, after the shrewdest thing, I was real shaky

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and I started I started passing out in public, having

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>anxiety attacks and passing out in public. Yeah. I what

0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 1>would make me pass out in public is the thought

0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that I would pass out in public. So it was

0:54:58.640 --> 0:55:00.560
<v Speaker 1>like a self fulfilling propose up I would be the

0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:02.360
<v Speaker 1>grocery store, like, up, you're gonna right here at the

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:05.840
<v Speaker 1>checkout counter. You're gonna pass out. Um. So I was

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:08.959
<v Speaker 1>She said a friend's wedding, standing up for the friend

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago in front of four people in the program

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and said, you know, meet the men who are standing

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:20.320
<v Speaker 1>up for us. The groomsman, Bennet, he's been on this,

0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:22.120
<v Speaker 1>he's been on that. He's an actor. You might know

0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 1>him from this or that they did that at the wedding.

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:29.040
<v Speaker 1>That's weird. Yeah, yeah. And she's steal your food at night.

0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes she googles people she hates. She takes ambient and

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:39.279
<v Speaker 1>orders makeup palace and they arrive and she forgot. She's like,

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 1>who send me this? She's been my friend for her

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:48.879
<v Speaker 1>score is two eighties. I know that part was weird.

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 1>So here I am sober complus, but I'm up in

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 1>front of all these people, is kind of hot, and

0:55:53.840 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I'm like everybody, I feel like

0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 1>everyone's looking at me, and I'm like, you're gonna pass out.

0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:00.120
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna pass out. Um, everyone's looking at you and

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna pass out. This is what's going to happen.

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:05.720
<v Speaker 1>And my friend describes being behind me and scene just sweat,

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 1>just form on the back of my neck. And the

0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:11.319
<v Speaker 1>next thing I know, I mean literally, the ceremony had

0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>started and I'm on the ground and uh and the

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:16.360
<v Speaker 1>priest was over me, and my friend was over me.

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:20.160
<v Speaker 1>He was a doctor, and they're like, you just passed out,

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, And it was just it was awful. That

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:25.759
<v Speaker 1>was right before before it was during like during like

0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the valves and ship can introduced you guys during the valves.

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>So I they sat me next to to my wife

0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and she said, um, are you okay? I said, yeah,

0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:37.759
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. You're gonna get up and you're gonna

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>walk that girl down the aisles. I had to walk

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the bride'smaid down the aisle that I had. Here's the deal.

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I like that your wife is a practical So then

0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I had to walk down the aisle in front of

0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:51.719
<v Speaker 1>everybody like hey, I'm the guy who just passed out.

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Later that night, it was at the reception. I went

0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom to go to the bathroom and just

0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to take a breath because I was it was overwhelming,

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and I heard someone someone came in and there they're

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:03.759
<v Speaker 1>pontificating about why I passed out. Oh my god, you're like,

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm right here, I can't hear you. Did they think so?

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I already had an iron deficiency. That's

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 1>actually very kind than dabbled in math exactly, like he's

0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a cocade exactly, like things aren't good at home. Wow,

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that is that's the chapter that it should be. It

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.800
<v Speaker 1>isn't interesting. You did stand up too. I did stand up. Yeah,

0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I did stand up. I was the opposite of you,

0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 1>like I did that early and um, and I did

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 1>it with Zach a lot with Galvinakas did I wonder

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:41.480
<v Speaker 1>if you ever early with him in New York? Okay,

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I see, I did it, but I was afraid of it,

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and I prefer to improvince. I liked playing with other

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 1>people something more like that. Yeah, yeah, no, I like

0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:52.960
<v Speaker 1>this too, And ultimately that's why I stopped doing ye. Um,

0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 1>but I loved it for a while. I did. Yeah,

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'd love to do it again. I still think

0:57:57.400 --> 0:57:59.520
<v Speaker 1>about it. My friend John Quainton's who I did it with.

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 1>We had a show together, and that's Zach would come

0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to our show. Where was your show? Uh, the old Largo? Yeah?

0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I bet I came and saw it because I was

0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 1>living in his closet. Then, yeah, you might have. I

0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 1>might have. He did a lot of shows there, oh man.

0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>And he would do that in the Maryland and you

0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>have five other shows that night. Um, I'm going to

0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 1>bring up something. You were so sweet to my mom

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 1>in Nashville. J J went into the live show in

0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Nashville and she was so sweet. I'm so thankful that

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I had that experience with her. That was one of

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 1>my last outings with her. Yeah, and it was just

0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 1>me and her, it was it. And then the guest

0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and like I got in, I just flew on on

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:39.760
<v Speaker 1>a red and I got in and took a shower

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 1>in your shoe and really, I'm so happy to be here.

0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:45.440
<v Speaker 1>And she said, are you though? Are you? Are you?

0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Are you really? And then when she started going on,

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 1>she started going on like some like online dates, and

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 1>she was like, I don't want to go out with

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the guys because they're old, old men. Have you ever

0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:58.720
<v Speaker 1>seen old men balls? And I was like no, She's like,

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to the old man ball because I would.

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do the guy in his forties. I'll take

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:06.920
<v Speaker 1>your friend Rob. Rob's married. But yeah, Okay, Yeah, she

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:11.760
<v Speaker 1>liked you. Yeah, you could have been my future like

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 1>ex stepfather. Like if you just had like a two

0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>weeks I mean, has that been written. That's a show.

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:20.720
<v Speaker 1>That's got to be a show where I'm your stepfather.

0:59:20.800 --> 0:59:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's actually not a bad idea. That's

0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:26.880
<v Speaker 1>actually a really funny idea. And if if I like

0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:28.480
<v Speaker 1>she said she would go out with you and you're like, no,

0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:30.920
<v Speaker 1>let's do it, I'm like okay, ha ha ha, Like no, seriously,

0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, let's do that. Um, all right, let's see. Uh.

0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:39.919
<v Speaker 1>So you started dating your wife in college? Yeah, yeah,

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:42.120
<v Speaker 1>in college. How old were you when you met? I

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:45.520
<v Speaker 1>was twenty one, she was twenty and then that was

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a junior in college. And then we graduated. And when

0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:51.040
<v Speaker 1>did you do that amazing proposal? Amazingros was when I

0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 1>was three, that's she was two. We got married. I

0:59:56.440 --> 0:59:58.160
<v Speaker 1>was twenty four years twenty who just got married a

0:59:58.240 --> 1:00:01.680
<v Speaker 1>year later? And twenty for you guys, have two beautiful,

1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:05.120
<v Speaker 1>two beautiful kids. And we were married for like twenty

1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:08.480
<v Speaker 1>four years and that's a successful marriage. Yeah. Yeah, it

1:00:08.560 --> 1:00:11.360
<v Speaker 1>was great. I mean it was great. And we split up, um,

1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, a year and a half ago, and you

1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>know it, the breakups are hard, and breakups after that

1:00:17.440 --> 1:00:20.800
<v Speaker 1>long or so sad and so hard. But um man,

1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I just I'm so thankful that it's it's been very

1:00:23.840 --> 1:00:27.000
<v Speaker 1>amicable between us. I remember we were at a festival

1:00:27.120 --> 1:00:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and I like before I just remember that I could

1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:33.360
<v Speaker 1>see it, like you being conflicted and I think probably

1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine probably coming from a house with divorce,

1:00:36.160 --> 1:00:37.760
<v Speaker 1>like like there's somehow it's like I don't want to

1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:40.360
<v Speaker 1>do that and like I don't know, I just like

1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you've had is to like to meet

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that young, and like that's a successful marriage. Really,

1:00:45.880 --> 1:00:50.200
<v Speaker 1>it really really is. And you know, uh one thing

1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I learned from my upbringing just bringing it all back

1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:55.960
<v Speaker 1>around it like the you know, the first thing we

1:00:56.120 --> 1:00:58.000
<v Speaker 1>do is we sat down with the kids and talked

1:00:58.000 --> 1:01:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to them doing a different whole old time. I've been

1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:05.320
<v Speaker 1>so um so communicative with the kids about what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Um I've been so incredibly involved in their life and they've,

1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:11.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, since the split up, like they've been such

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<v Speaker 1>a huge part of my life in a way, almost

1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:17.080
<v Speaker 1>more so because you do you want to give to

1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:19.720
<v Speaker 1>being around him and and as we were saying earlier,

1:01:19.800 --> 1:01:22.840
<v Speaker 1>like kids aren't dumb, so like I remember in my house,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just kept like, why is she still with

1:01:25.200 --> 1:01:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like like and it's a different vibe, but like kids know,

1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:33.480
<v Speaker 1>if it's less joyful, you know, and it's like it's okay,

1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:36.880
<v Speaker 1>look at they did, they did. Your main job is

1:01:36.960 --> 1:01:39.080
<v Speaker 1>to love them as long as there's love around. I

1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:42.280
<v Speaker 1>think you love and respect your wife. Oh yeah, I said,

1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I always will. She's the love of my life. And

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<v Speaker 1>I always will. And I've had a bunch of friends

1:01:47.640 --> 1:01:50.600
<v Speaker 1>who've gotten who've gotten divorced, and I know it's like

1:01:50.840 --> 1:01:54.360
<v Speaker 1>the worst year of everyone's lives. And I will say,

1:01:54.440 --> 1:01:57.720
<v Speaker 1>like down the road, like a lot of them got

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<v Speaker 1>divorced a few years ago, and like, and I know

1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:02.120
<v Speaker 1>it was horrible, even if they were the ones that

1:02:02.200 --> 1:02:07.880
<v Speaker 1>wanted it, it was horrible. And then everybody is happier

1:02:08.000 --> 1:02:10.720
<v Speaker 1>for it. Like there's a reason nobody takes it lightly.

1:02:10.800 --> 1:02:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, no, no, no, no no. And maybe

1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:17.480
<v Speaker 1>our previous generation did, but like you know, and you know,

1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and I have a um, I've got a space with

1:02:20.440 --> 1:02:22.320
<v Speaker 1>rooms for the kids, and so they're through with me

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<v Speaker 1>half the time, and and and they're adjusting and you

1:02:25.320 --> 1:02:27.360
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean that they feel loved and you know,

1:02:27.960 --> 1:02:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's all okay, it's like the modern family. Right. Well,

1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you seem I have to say, you also just seem

1:02:33.000 --> 1:02:35.240
<v Speaker 1>you seem very much yourself, you know, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a piece there and you seem happy and

1:02:38.160 --> 1:02:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like like something that you committed to

1:02:42.880 --> 1:02:44.760
<v Speaker 1>her or something that you made twenty one, Like, that's

1:02:44.800 --> 1:02:50.680
<v Speaker 1>an amazing, happy, successful run. That's a very amazing I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know anybody else that picks somebody that young, that

1:02:53.200 --> 1:02:58.000
<v Speaker 1>lasted that long. No one, not one person. Right, It

1:02:58.120 --> 1:03:00.400
<v Speaker 1>is nice to see you happy. Yeah, yeah, it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I'm very hopeful. Do you do you how often?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know you're in a band Loud and Swain.

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<v Speaker 1>How many albums do you have? About? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>like eight that's a lot. Yeah, yeah, we've been together

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<v Speaker 1>since the late nineties. And do you write the music?

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<v Speaker 1>I write the lyrics and I write sort of half

1:03:18.320 --> 1:03:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the songs are start as songs that I write, but

1:03:21.160 --> 1:03:22.440
<v Speaker 1>then I bring it to the band and so the

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<v Speaker 1>credits are the music by Loud and Swain, lyrics by

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Bennet. But and do you how many people are

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<v Speaker 1>in the band, and has it been the same for

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time? UM, three of us the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the lead guitar player joined us UM in

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<v Speaker 1>like two thou four, So that's another fun team that

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<v Speaker 1>you're on. So so fun. Yeah, that's my extracurricular activity

1:03:40.440 --> 1:03:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and you love it. I love it. I love it.

1:03:42.360 --> 1:03:44.920
<v Speaker 1>And now it's it's gotten to the point where the band, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>We've I've been able to sort of incorporate the band

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<v Speaker 1>into what I do because the band plays the conventions

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<v Speaker 1>that so fun to do with Supernatural, So like they come,

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of the house band all weekend and then

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday night we had this big concert. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we've made all these bands now and it's it's been

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<v Speaker 1>great great. I mean, like, you're so talented, You're such

1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:06.480
<v Speaker 1>a delight. I wanted to do more comedy stuff. I will,

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<v Speaker 1>I will. I'm excited. I'm excited for you to join

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<v Speaker 1>us for our lives. UM and UM is there. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know when this will air, but so look up

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<v Speaker 1>Robin by his albums, Yeah, by my albums, Loud and Swaying.

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<v Speaker 1>We're on iTunes and Spotify and all those things. And

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<v Speaker 1>and guys, just you don't have to pop an ambient,

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<v Speaker 1>but just get ready to make some bad decisions and

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<v Speaker 1>just just go online shopping. But order my book please

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<v Speaker 1>a little miss little Compton. You can get out on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about the pre order. Please by by stack

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<v Speaker 1>it up for the next holiday season. Have it be

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<v Speaker 1>your hostess gift. You're like a buy a ton of them,

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<v Speaker 1>so you bring up to whenever you go visit somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>I will if you bring him to any show I'm at,

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<v Speaker 1>I will sign any of them. It's a really fun book.

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<v Speaker 1>And just you know, like and you think, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to do it. Please just do it today.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think I believe I can't believe it. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think I did a good job. I know you did.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you did. I think it's funny and good

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<v Speaker 1>you have. You have a good story. You have a

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<v Speaker 1>good story to tell you story. Rob I love you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Um, I hope you're feeling thorny. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we'll play our new song out pretty thorny. Katie, Anna,

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<v Speaker 1>you have any more questions for Robber? You good? I'm great.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so insightful and to who you are, it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thank you. I interview each of you guys too,

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<v Speaker 1>so at some point you're ready. I know, I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>and their stories. You know what time it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time for hard to get a little close and a

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<v Speaker 1>little Thorny's gonna go one on one, gonna be hot,

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<v Speaker 1>and ergons are gonna be super real, and she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to get with you and all the fields feeling thorny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fling thorny. Whoa g thorny, feeling thorny. We're notting Marie, Yeah,

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