Speaker 1: We're heading back to the Jersey Shore for one of
Speaker 1: the most memorable moments in the franchise. After eleven months
Speaker 1: in prison, Teresa is finally heading home just in time
Speaker 1: for Christmas with her family. The episode starts two weeks
Speaker 1: prior leading up to the big homecoming, and we're introduced
Speaker 1: to a new housewife, Dolores Catania. Actress and Housewives fan
Speaker 1: Kate Flannery joins the podcast to break it all down.
Speaker 1: This is the Real Housewives of New Jersey, Season seven,
Speaker 1: Episode one, jingle bells and prison cells. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: So are you a Housewives fan? Overall? I'm a sporadic fan.
Speaker 1: I feel like I get in, I get out, and
Speaker 1: it's so I'm it's been a while, so, by the way,
Speaker 1: same like, I don't really watch the Housewives anymore, and
Speaker 1: this has been really sort of fun. And the truth
Speaker 1: is many of the episodes that were reviewing I haven't
Speaker 1: ever seen myself. When it first started, OC was on
Speaker 1: and I remember watching that, and then um our show
Speaker 1: was next, and out of curiosity, I was watching Jersey
Speaker 1: and Atlanta and and because competition, you know, it was
Speaker 1: a new franchise in town, I was watching those in
Speaker 1: the beginning, but then there's so many you get lost
Speaker 1: and in so many seasons, and I just like dropped
Speaker 1: off of everything, even right shows. So yeah, and actually
Speaker 1: I did watch What Happens Live with uh Ramona when
Speaker 1: she was with Mario. This is like, oh, oh that's
Speaker 1: so funny. Okay, well that was a trip trip. Yes,
Speaker 1: So I had never seen this episode, and I am
Speaker 1: just like shocked that that a woman who was on
Speaker 1: this show went to jail. Like it's like, it's weird.
Speaker 1: It's a weird world because it's looking like fun, campy
Speaker 1: entertainment and you're like trying to jump out of that
Speaker 1: and just say, okay, hold on, wait a second. I
Speaker 1: know this is like a show. It feels like we're
Speaker 1: watching Three's Company, a scripted show, but this is a
Speaker 1: person whose kids are home waiting for their mother come
Speaker 1: on from prison after a year. Heavy. It's so heavy.
Speaker 1: Their moments where I'm like, oh my god, I just
Speaker 1: I feel for those girls and yeah, yeah, it's yes,
Speaker 1: it's nuts, and they're just like they're so young, they're
Speaker 1: so at that off where you just need your mom.
Speaker 1: It's so I know so much, so much to figure out,
Speaker 1: so much to negotiate so much. I agree. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I don't think they covered that enough. Like
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit with Jacqueline thinks about Teresa's letter.
Speaker 1: I care about what a six year old you know,
Speaker 1: I miss my mommy. What was the year life like
Speaker 1: as a mother anyway, So you know you were so
Speaker 1: I was searching for those moments like and just getting
Speaker 1: them as like a hug. But like it was. It
Speaker 1: was brutal. And I have to say, I mean, she
Speaker 1: had no choice, but she's a badass. She's strong, like
Speaker 1: that's she is. And you know, I have to give
Speaker 1: her oldest daughter so much credit because clearly she was
Speaker 1: picking up the slack and she was like being mom.
Speaker 1: You know, you could see her with her dad, like
Speaker 1: she was really challenging on some of his parental choices
Speaker 1: and you know, she's like they're they're not going to school,
Speaker 1: they're going to I just but she was like definitely
Speaker 1: taking the role as the oldest as like the next parent.
Speaker 1: It's funny how there that you do hear you hear that,
Speaker 1: you hear like parents die and like someone raised their
Speaker 1: siblings and you hear I remember Dennis Leary said he
Speaker 1: was from a big Irish family and like the older
Speaker 1: kids take care of the younger kids, and you don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm the onliest of seven. I totally get it.
Speaker 1: And and my my sisters have certain tones that sound
Speaker 1: just like my mom or just like my dad, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, as like an older I'm like, knock it off. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's that's something for people to to think about,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because I know people who
Speaker 1: have sixteen year old kids that they're coddling, and it's like,
Speaker 1: there are other sixteen year olds that could you know,
Speaker 1: run a family. And absolutely, and I don't you know,
Speaker 1: this is not like the Kardashians, where the Kardashians have
Speaker 1: seventeen nannies that they hide in the basement so we
Speaker 1: don't see them like an act like they're kids on
Speaker 1: our own. These they don't have. I don't believe it's
Speaker 1: very Italian like to not have a nanny a housekeeper
Speaker 1: to keep their own head. Absolutely, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think they had an So I don't think they had
Speaker 1: a nanny. So Joe and I often pronounced it and
Speaker 1: I get criticized. It is Joe Giudica or g you
Speaker 1: dice if you're not pronouncing it in Italian. But it's
Speaker 1: Giudica Joe. Whether you like him hate him, this fucking
Speaker 1: guy was there for a year raising four girls himself,
Speaker 1: without a housekeeper, nanny, like nothing right, and he kept
Speaker 1: saying espresso doesn't work. I'm I think that was relatable
Speaker 1: and I like, I actually liked him in this episode
Speaker 1: because he was being honest. I mean, he wasn't lying
Speaker 1: and acting like he's the perfect dad who's got it
Speaker 1: under control. This is fucking crazy man. Yeah, so true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's an especially in the kid's life, Like
Speaker 1: that's a huge amount of time, especially for that six
Speaker 1: year old. But yeah, I think, yeah, he did better
Speaker 1: than I maybe better than I would have done. I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's not easy. By the way, by the way,
Speaker 1: he's four children of any gender. I would be in Yeah, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was a lot. And and of course
Speaker 1: I was only thinking about like her getting home in
Speaker 1: her house being so disorganized after an hour, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to stay hell lout of the kids, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to stay he loud to the kids.
Speaker 1: I'd have to go organize the closet. The first thing
Speaker 1: she said was when she walked in the door and
Speaker 1: miss my house. I mean she looked at Joe. They
Speaker 1: had a moment, she didn't say anything, and then she
Speaker 1: said I missed my house and then she said I
Speaker 1: miss you. That's really funny. Now honest, super honest, super honest.
Speaker 1: But also like you have to realize, so my fiance
Speaker 1: won't doesn't want to be in a shot with me
Speaker 1: in the dollars store, like he has no he sees
Speaker 1: no upside to any level of attention at all. So
Speaker 1: he's and that's his life, in his choice. He sees
Speaker 1: no upside right right, So they're being hate and now
Speaker 1: presumably they're in a financial crunch, which you later saw
Speaker 1: after this, So there they have to play ball and
Speaker 1: they have to shoot this whole thing. But like the
Speaker 1: camera's got the first hug coming home, Like that's almost creepy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it's one thing
Speaker 1: to have cameras capturing a proposal engagement like which is
Speaker 1: also maybe, but like you're saying hello to your kids
Speaker 1: that you love with camas, it means you've chosen this family,
Speaker 1: has chosen a lifestyle to be honest, it's a real documentary.
Speaker 1: Then it's it's not a reality show, it's a documentary.
Speaker 1: Like that's what I got about this episode. I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's sure you know, when Siggy comes in
Speaker 1: with her her like she looked like Delio Harri from
Speaker 1: Valley the Dolls when she had her face flipped at
Speaker 1: the speaking, which I thought was hilarious. Right, But like
Speaker 1: there's those moments where you're like, this is hilarious, it's campy,
Speaker 1: and then they just keep taking these turns where you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so true. That's a campy
Speaker 1: reality show that an actress could do. You're right, that's
Speaker 1: a little scene. We're gonna get you where you're just
Speaker 1: got exactly this other shit is some different shit. You're right,
Speaker 1: drink your soup. Drink your soup and they're straw. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like hilarious, hilarious. Hey, you make a great that's a
Speaker 1: great point because Joe, after all this time being filmed
Speaker 1: and whatever, and he's been fucking around on her, you know,
Speaker 1: on camera, gotten called he doesn't give a shit. There's
Speaker 1: something about someone that does this when they're being authentically
Speaker 1: who they are. Whether we like it, or not, Like
Speaker 1: that's what I had a problem with the gweek Goop
Speaker 1: Gwyneth bone Broth thing. She's telling him what you fucking
Speaker 1: ate for lunch? Like that's what she honestly, now you're
Speaker 1: gonna hate her? Would you hate her if she was
Speaker 1: only bringing aramez bags in in a full face of makeup?
Speaker 1: Like this guy Joe is being honest about who he
Speaker 1: gets absolutely too too. It's it's refreshing, but again it's
Speaker 1: it's a documentary and you're like, whoa, I'm really seeing
Speaker 1: into their private personal world. Like it's it's no matter
Speaker 1: how much editing you do, it's still so raw. And
Speaker 1: I thought, I mean, I don't remember how long they've
Speaker 1: been together, but probably twenty something years. I thought, like,
Speaker 1: they do really love each other. I thought, like he
Speaker 1: when he was like, I just get my the language
Speaker 1: is key to me get my wife home safe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was not like I don't know, that was a
Speaker 1: very specific thing to say multiple times. Rights rights well,
Speaker 1: you know, and and I give Teresa so much credit
Speaker 1: because I feel like she walked it. She looked great.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, she didn't have a crazy amount
Speaker 1: of makeup on. It was a little more realistic. But
Speaker 1: she clearly got it together because she didn't want to know.
Speaker 1: I mean did I wonder did maybe they did in
Speaker 1: the car. I don't know. She had a haircllar like yours.
Speaker 1: She had no roots. I had gone to a salon
Speaker 1: in three years, and I've decided I'm gonna go like
Speaker 1: get like a real haircut and a real hair collored
Speaker 1: a salon. But like she had hair as deep, like
Speaker 1: as good as yours. Yes she did. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: think by her side, I'm just kidding, you know, I
Speaker 1: just mean, it looks good, like it looks like I
Speaker 1: don't totally finished, right, I know she did. She looked
Speaker 1: she looked good, but she also like she didn't. She
Speaker 1: wasn't super glam. She was like it was like a
Speaker 1: perfect balance. I thought it was like, don't upset the
Speaker 1: kids by looking like two for she clearly thought about
Speaker 1: all that stuff too. I mean, I don't know. And literally,
Speaker 1: how did she have non grades after a year? Did?
Speaker 1: How did she get a hair called? Like? Literally, I'm
Speaker 1: asking you what do you think? Well, I mean they
Speaker 1: could have done they could have done spray. She could
Speaker 1: have I wonder if they would let her. I think
Speaker 1: I think yeah, or sometimes you can dye your hair,
Speaker 1: and yeah, you can you. I think I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of like the TV shows I've seen, right, and
Speaker 1: I was taking like Oranges New Black. I was like,
Speaker 1: I think you can dye your hair. I think you
Speaker 1: can figure it. I think there's a way to do it.
Speaker 1: But oh right, Orange was trading though. That was right,
Speaker 1: you trade like cigarettes or MAXI what she traded. But
Speaker 1: she she did a good job. She traded it, okay,
Speaker 1: because I was like, that looks really good. Okay, I know, right,
Speaker 1: And speaking of which this was I don't know how
Speaker 1: much you know about the show. This was Blonde Melissa
Speaker 1: her sister and right, right, and I liked she looked good.
Speaker 1: She did, and then when they would show the flash, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: Melissa is a trip. I mean, I um, and I
Speaker 1: just love that she's all obsessed with opening this boutique
Speaker 1: and she wants her kids to look at her like
Speaker 1: she's like their dad. I mean, I don't even get it.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, like being a real woman who
Speaker 1: works and you're not just the Italian princess, the queen
Speaker 1: in the house at home. She wants to be seen
Speaker 1: as a woman who owns a shop at her husband Bill.
Speaker 1: Do you are you if you have to pick a team,
Speaker 1: or you team Teresa or team Melissa. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I go back and forth because sometimes
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Melissa's on more than
Speaker 1: more than Teresa, and she's mean, well, she's just she's
Speaker 1: putting a good face. What I mean. Oh no, I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say the same. I was going to
Speaker 1: say that, Yes, she's just campaign for herself. She's the
Speaker 1: hero of her stories. She's guarded, she's gloss, and Teresa's
Speaker 1: warts and all. I like that you said, that's it's
Speaker 1: exactly how I feel that. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: knew this, But Teresa was on Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: last year. I was on Dancing with the Stars three
Speaker 1: years ago and we had the same PARTNERSH wow, I
Speaker 1: did not know. I last a little longer than ye.
Speaker 1: Are they so close? I know they're in touch, but
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if they're they're not super closed,
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know, I don't know, don't
Speaker 1: don't any So you've Joe who's sitting there like rolling
Speaker 1: his eyes and telling his kids shut the fuck up. Right,
Speaker 1: which like, you know, shut up, Milannia, like I could
Speaker 1: promise you. I've been like shut like I could promise
Speaker 1: you as a parent. That's real. So he's being real.
Speaker 1: Teresa went to jail. She's gritty, she's kind of like
Speaker 1: out there. I do believe one having been on the show,
Speaker 1: that Teresa was blindsided not knowing Melissa was coming on
Speaker 1: to her show. So I believe there's some like you know,
Speaker 1: and I believe like wait, what, like no, I just was,
Speaker 1: So I believe I agree with you on that like
Speaker 1: feigned innocence. And I see over here on Melissa and
Speaker 1: Joe Gorga's house the opposite of Joe's Gotta take a
Speaker 1: shower It on camera, Hey, and they're they're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, they're like actors. Yeah, it feels like they're
Speaker 1: actors and they're over there. There's reality starts doing a documentary.
Speaker 1: It feels like it's a lot of being put on
Speaker 1: and like walking around naked in the house. Hilarious, hilarious,
Speaker 1: hilarious in front of the camera. Guys. Yeah, yeah, I know, right,
Speaker 1: I mean literally there's people. I'm sure there's like, do
Speaker 1: you guys have makeup artists that touch you up at all. Now,
Speaker 1: just like cameras like this is who's there? They're in
Speaker 1: a scene like that. At the house, there are one
Speaker 1: to two producers. There are eat definitely, definitely there are
Speaker 1: two camera people, two producers, one sound pretty you start,
Speaker 1: a supervising producer, maybe a PA. So there are like
Speaker 1: eight people in that house like watching that at least
Speaker 1: and the local audience. Yeah that's not that's a full audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but not a show baby, yeah, so's yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now moving over, I was thinking he must he must
Speaker 1: have a big piece, or I think he does because
Speaker 1: he wants to show it. Right. So now we're over
Speaker 1: at Jacqueline. So what I say about Jacqueline, She seems
Speaker 1: like a nice person. And and usually when I say
Speaker 1: someone's a nice person and like a good person, they're
Speaker 1: boring housewife. So she's like it's usually that like, oh,
Speaker 1: they seem like a nice, good person, like Kathy Waquille.
Speaker 1: I love her, but probably not a great maybe not
Speaker 1: the best housewife. That's why they were let go. I
Speaker 1: don't know the reason, right, right, right. But also Jacqueline
Speaker 1: is she reveals more about her family because she shares
Speaker 1: so much about her son who has autism about it. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that to me, is like it's huge, you know,
Speaker 1: and she's and she is like she and people kid relate.
Speaker 1: It's like, guess what, this is real? This is real. Well,
Speaker 1: and she's got her older daughter who's like a pan
Speaker 1: of the ass and move you know. I agree. I
Speaker 1: think it gets real and that's just right. They got
Speaker 1: to sell the watches. That cracked me up. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sell my watches. I'm like, wow, you're only the watches.
Speaker 1: Like you It was very it's going to get you
Speaker 1: out of trouble. Yeah, it's very specific. It's so true.
Speaker 1: And they're moving houses. But she was very honest about
Speaker 1: her parenting and her daughter, and I respect and like that.
Speaker 1: I respect. How old is your daughter, bethany hold is
Speaker 1: your daughter? She's twelve? Do you have kids? Okay, my
Speaker 1: boyfriend has kids, three kids, and I've known that since
Speaker 1: they were five twelve and yeah, five twelve and fifteen.
Speaker 1: But I saw you on a plane. I think it
Speaker 1: was when I did watch What Happens Live and your
Speaker 1: daughter was a baby twelve years ago, no joke. We've
Speaker 1: sat first class. I didn't want to bother. You were
Speaker 1: such a new your baby, it was at Newark. Your
Speaker 1: baby was like so tiny, she was so tiny. That's
Speaker 1: such a crazy story. Wow, I know she's a human.
Speaker 1: Now she's a human. And yeah, she wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: be part of this program. She's embarrassed by it to
Speaker 1: begin with overall and what it represents. That's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons I not There's there's ten reasons I'm out there,
Speaker 1: but that could be a small one. Um, but I
Speaker 1: liked about it. Also, you've got skinny girl. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got skinny girl, which I have to say, your cocktails.
Speaker 1: I mean it's better than you know, candle, you're there's
Speaker 1: a bottle of vodka next to her. She's calling a right,
Speaker 1: So exactly, I didn't want to I don't like to
Speaker 1: do a lot of things I don't like to do.
Speaker 1: I don't want it. Very smarte No, I get it.
Speaker 1: You did your time and you know you're you're free shoes.
Speaker 1: And I like that you're protective of your daughter. You
Speaker 1: know she's she's got her feelings and you respect well.
Speaker 1: You you're an actress and you play a role and
Speaker 1: you get to I don't it's I don't like the
Speaker 1: word hide behind, but like you have a barrier between
Speaker 1: your real life and this audience. Like this is true
Speaker 1: although I played an alcoholic in the Office and my
Speaker 1: dad owned a bar for years in Philadelphia Flannery's Tavern.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, like it's I sometimes feel like,
Speaker 1: what do I have, like resting drunk face, Like I
Speaker 1: just happened to like get hired as an alcoholic but
Speaker 1: also close to home. Was it too close to home
Speaker 1: or was fine? Like no, no, I I had no problem.
Speaker 1: You can't know, I feel like I I know. I
Speaker 1: mean we would go. We didn't live at the bar
Speaker 1: or like buy the bar, but we would go once
Speaker 1: a week with my dad, you know. And I worked
Speaker 1: in the restaurant. I mean I waited tables up and
Speaker 1: through the first season of the Office very Ray Dawn
Speaker 1: of inter Shameless Bar. So yeah, totally totally you know,
Speaker 1: like being around the bar, right because raydowna in the
Speaker 1: Wife's Brother of course. Yeah. Um. So I think what's
Speaker 1: interesting about Jersey When I look at Dolores and Jackie
Speaker 1: and Teresa and Caroline and Dina, they all really are
Speaker 1: real friends. Like I always say, it's not show friends,
Speaker 1: it's show business. Like they really like in other places
Speaker 1: it's show friends. They are really friends here. These are
Speaker 1: not show friends, yes, Siggy, I don't know. She just
Speaker 1: it did not. It seemed like a casting to me, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that, Like she could be talking to Jill's
Speaker 1: Aaron in Bocca about her facelift, Like even though these
Speaker 1: women got facelifts, it just it didn't seem like the
Speaker 1: number one thing they want to talk about her. What
Speaker 1: right there? And I understand and and I yeah, I
Speaker 1: think being Italian is it's so specific. And I mean
Speaker 1: and the traditions like every it's just there's a shorthand
Speaker 1: that is so specific because I grew up. I grew
Speaker 1: up with a lot of Italian families. Like one of
Speaker 1: my best friends was one of eleven kids. And I
Speaker 1: feel like we went over there to to snack because
Speaker 1: I feel like we never had any like extra food.
Speaker 1: It's very specific drink, but you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: grew up in an Italian house, was an Italian stepfather
Speaker 1: from the most A lot of my so seven seven fishes, right,
Speaker 1: which they talked about in this episode, which I always like,
Speaker 1: I love to go to the Viggianos on Christmas Eve
Speaker 1: because it was like it was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's the face of the seven fishes, which has a religious, biblical,
Speaker 1: I think, connotation, and that's why they make seven different
Speaker 1: fishes and baccalas one of them, which people don't like,
Speaker 1: and like, some people don't like. I'm allergic to fish,
Speaker 1: so I can't participate less it's shellfish, which somebody, you're
Speaker 1: so shellfish. I'm so, I'm a shellfish person. That's really funny.
Speaker 1: I can't eat shellfish. That's funny. I'm a shellfish person.
Speaker 1: I'm stealing. You're very shelfish. I'm very shelfish. I'll drink
Speaker 1: to that. So no, no's no longer with us, yes, right,
Speaker 1: right right, And he was like at a game, you know,
Speaker 1: hanging out with Molas. It's cozying up with Melissa, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, but see, that's where there's there's sense of
Speaker 1: documentary on this, because you know, if you're a family member,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, like you'll you're grateful for
Speaker 1: the footage at that point. But oh, on the on
Speaker 1: the older side, it works great. For the young kids,
Speaker 1: maybe not so much. That's so true. Now let's talk
Speaker 1: about how this show, it's this show divided a family.
Speaker 1: It's divided many families. It's been a Kathy Hilton Kyle controversy.
Speaker 1: Like no one talks about that. You're entering into a
Speaker 1: show and it's probably gonna fuck up your marriage and
Speaker 1: your family. Well, something's gonna get sucked up, Like it's
Speaker 1: what price fame? Yeah, I mean it's funny. Any person
Speaker 1: I've ever met it was like, we're thinking about doing
Speaker 1: a reality show, I'm like, well, I hope you. I
Speaker 1: hope you have a good lawyer because you're gonna need
Speaker 1: Like it's really it's it's cause and effect, like there's
Speaker 1: no gray area like it. I'm sure the percentage is
Speaker 1: like I mean, I don't I haven't done the math exactly,
Speaker 1: but it's gotta be really high or east or at
Speaker 1: least like it damaged the relationships. So even if they
Speaker 1: haven't got divorced, like it it forced them to separate
Speaker 1: or something and like together family relationships yeah. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: also most of these shows that people are meeting on
Speaker 1: the show, so who cares if those relationships get fucked
Speaker 1: that they came in with. Yeah? And the family yeah,
Speaker 1: and the siblings totally. Yeah. And also it's funny because
Speaker 1: Dolores now she's very made up, like this show makes
Speaker 1: people with the hair and the extent, and I think
Speaker 1: Dolores is naturally pretty. Pictures for her like when they
Speaker 1: were younger, and she's like she But even even when
Speaker 1: she's at the speakeasy, she's not wearing much makeup. She's
Speaker 1: gorgeous less. It's more, honey, what are you doing? I
Speaker 1: think like and I don't you know, I don't really
Speaker 1: talk about I would not like say negative things about
Speaker 1: someone's appearance. I'm gonna just say positively, I think she's pretty,
Speaker 1: and like I don't know her that way. How I
Speaker 1: as a friend would say, let's do like a natural
Speaker 1: make under. You're naturally yeah, And it's just not about her,
Speaker 1: It's about all of us. Like throwing the makeup on,
Speaker 1: go to an event and you look like a clown.
Speaker 1: Makeup you tried, you paid, you look like shit, and
Speaker 1: you look at you can't stop seeing yourself, You stop
Speaker 1: seeing it's like, yeah, it's so weird. Well you just
Speaker 1: see the steps that they told you to do, so
Speaker 1: I know now, but I do beauty videos. All the steps.
Speaker 1: It's the contour, it's the highlighter, it's the foundation and
Speaker 1: like all the steps will fuck you up, and she's
Speaker 1: doing all true. I like it with fewer steps. That's
Speaker 1: just make it's just true. No, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you do this, but I did not get a lot
Speaker 1: of makeup on the Office, Like that's the understatement of
Speaker 1: the century. I mean, it was documentary style. So I
Speaker 1: always took one for the team. Like my mother was
Speaker 1: always like, can't they give you makeup? My dragoning friends
Speaker 1: were like, oh my god, honey, what happened. Oh that's
Speaker 1: why when I got I asked to do Dance with
Speaker 1: the Stars, I was like, hell, yeah, put it on, baby,
Speaker 1: I want some makeup, give me some glam. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's not fair, Like you're on TV and you're like
Speaker 1: like you're doing Although I used to say like I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna get laid working on the show, and I
Speaker 1: ended up meeting my boyfriend on the show. We we've
Speaker 1: been together for seventeen years, like I and also my
Speaker 1: chara on the Office I did. He's an NBC photographer
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, my character got laid more than
Speaker 1: anybody else on the show anyway, So that it was yeah,
Speaker 1: it all worked out. It all worked out great, and
Speaker 1: it's better not. I think it's better to look better
Speaker 1: in real life than you do on TV. I just
Speaker 1: do because then there's less pressure, you know what I mean. Everyone,
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, you look pretty Rember real life.
Speaker 1: And there's someone Elizabeth Moss as she gets out all
Speaker 1: the time too. I think that's yeah, but more people
Speaker 1: see you in not real life. That's true. Millions, Well
Speaker 1: that's true, but I don't. I don't. But they they
Speaker 1: they don't see me. They see my character, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yes, like I can see you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And and luckily the Office has like
Speaker 1: an amazing fan base and everybody, you know, even though
Speaker 1: I played an excident prone slotty drunk like, people still
Speaker 1: like me. How many years since you've been on that show?
Speaker 1: We just it'll be our tenth anniversary that the show
Speaker 1: ended next month. I can't believe it. Are you closed
Speaker 1: with everyone? Yeah, we're still on the text for it.
Speaker 1: I see everybody. We do a lot of fan events
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's we're we're it's like a definitely connected Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And we had nine seasons together mostly in the same
Speaker 1: room in the in the main office, so we were
Speaker 1: together all the time. That's a. I think it's a
Speaker 1: guy from a guy from the office that was the
Speaker 1: top performer on Cameo the app Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Brian plays Kevin. Yeah. Actually I'm the top. I'm the top.
Speaker 1: I'm one of the top females. Oh you still do it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah I do. Um. There was a quote that
Speaker 1: someone said, Um, I guess it was about Teresa. I
Speaker 1: don't know who it was about. Oh no, it was
Speaker 1: maybe Jacqueline about the two about Chris and Jacqueline that
Speaker 1: you lose everything and then you get it if you
Speaker 1: can get it all back, like I finds a person
Speaker 1: totally totally interesting. Some people do say if I was
Speaker 1: able to do it once, I could do it again.
Speaker 1: That's true. True, that's true for some people. It's a
Speaker 1: motivator for sure. Yeah. I don't know, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know that I could do what I did again starting
Speaker 1: from being nobody and be like I always feel like
Speaker 1: I overshot the mark, Like, I don't know, do you,
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it, you think you could go
Speaker 1: back be a nobody actress? Any Well? I feel like
Speaker 1: I was. I feel like I was on a certain
Speaker 1: trajectory in my twenties and then like my thirties hit
Speaker 1: and I feel like I got involved with a guy
Speaker 1: who I shared credit with and I shouldn't have and
Speaker 1: I had a declared bankruptcy and I slept on couches
Speaker 1: in York. It was like, oh, I got like the
Speaker 1: I made some big mistakes. So I feel like any
Speaker 1: of the momentum that I had, I kind of had
Speaker 1: to start over. I mean I did have to start
Speaker 1: That's why I was still waiting tables when I got
Speaker 1: the office, because I was like, I'm not going through
Speaker 1: this again. I'm not just going to quit until I
Speaker 1: know what to expect. Because a lot of shows though
Speaker 1: have a season maybe too, but then that's it, you know.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know if we were gonna get picked up,
Speaker 1: So I kind of have a little sense of that
Speaker 1: of the kind of like, okay, you and I knew
Speaker 1: no one else could bail me out of it. Like
Speaker 1: I knew I made some mistakes, and I was the
Speaker 1: one that was going to have to to build up
Speaker 1: everything back again. And you know, whatever I lost, I
Speaker 1: was going to have to figure it out how to
Speaker 1: how to get it back so I could do it again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do, but but it's different. I wasn't. I wasn't famous.
Speaker 1: I mean, some people knew me as an actor, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't. No, that's what I mean to go back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's different. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean maybe,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think I think it's
Speaker 1: a really good opportunity. I think it's a spiritual opportunity
Speaker 1: because I think you really figure out who's bullshit in
Speaker 1: your life and who's not, and you get to let
Speaker 1: go of the you know that just that the people
Speaker 1: that suck you dry or criticize you all the time,
Speaker 1: like you get to pick you get to take care
Speaker 1: of yourself in a better way. I think, right, you know,
Speaker 1: so let's just discuss the Teresa. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many seasons that show has been, ladies, please tell me,
Speaker 1: but she's been on that show. So there are women
Speaker 1: who've been on the show since day one. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I left twice. Yeah, like yeah, I left the first
Speaker 1: time after three years, a second time I think after
Speaker 1: four or five. There were thirteen seeds. She's been on
Speaker 1: for thirteen years of her life on this freaking show.
Speaker 1: It's insane. Well, year she was in prison, so she
Speaker 1: had a break sorry, yeah, but I'm sure they were
Speaker 1: coming and they were filming right right and voice yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of conversations for sure. Yeah. And and also
Speaker 1: sometimes shows do take a break for like six eight
Speaker 1: months anyway, like maybe when her break was how long
Speaker 1: was your Office? Nine seasons? So you were on that show, right,
Speaker 1: So imagine it was all about exposing yourself and every
Speaker 1: into your life for them, and that I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not really wired for that. I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, it's not for you. I'm okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm not wired for it either. Believe it.
Speaker 1: I'm good at it, but I'm not into, like, you know,
Speaker 1: a daily rectal exam. Why not, Bethany, you want to
Speaker 1: see give the people what they want. Here is my ass,
Speaker 1: and I'm showing it to you live watch what happens
Speaker 1: up my ass. It's so true. I always say, like, um,
Speaker 1: I'm always nervous when I feel like I've shown every
Speaker 1: body my armpit and my underpants, which I sort of
Speaker 1: got to do on the Office a little bit, but
Speaker 1: as my character did, so that's a little different. I
Speaker 1: don't think I could recognize my own armpit by the
Speaker 1: way in a photo. I don't think I could. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I like a freckle or a defining
Speaker 1: feature on it, but I'm gonna look at it. The
Speaker 1: second we finished, um so, I was shocked, like Teresa's
Speaker 1: really famous, Like that's a lot of paparazzi too, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know outside oj sause poparazzi when you have
Speaker 1: like totally cameras. Yeah, when you see the cameras on there,
Speaker 1: there weren't fifty of them, but still, like, I don't
Speaker 1: think I've ever had cameras on sticks outside summer. I
Speaker 1: was that's like elite paparazzi stuff. Yeah, I mean maybe
Speaker 1: it was a slow newsday five in the morning. I
Speaker 1: know paparazzi to be very lazy. It's one thing if
Speaker 1: I'm in Miami and I go take a beach walk
Speaker 1: at seven in the morning because I'm up early, They're
Speaker 1: not gonna fucking get me go ten o'clock, they're all there.
Speaker 1: They're fucking lazy. So so bo Bravo did not spring
Speaker 1: for like a bunch of cars, like they didn't manufacture
Speaker 1: any of that. That was all like as it was.
Speaker 1: I don't remember pop razzi definitely not. Okay, okay, And
Speaker 1: I just go back to what he said she wasn't
Speaker 1: a mom for a year. I mean babies like and
Speaker 1: you know, Gia is like picking up the mantel, you know,
Speaker 1: even when like the mom's half hour, she's, mom's gonna
Speaker 1: be here in half an hour, and she's and the
Speaker 1: and the one daughter's a sleep in bed, She's like,
Speaker 1: you gotta get up, like you gotta get dressed. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: she brushed her hair. She's she's you know, she's and
Speaker 1: she's criticizing Joe's parenting and fixed her mom's hair. And
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah, I think your mom coming up
Speaker 1: for prison after your year would mean no school today, right, right,
Speaker 1: they'd let those kids out for her parent teacher conferences.
Speaker 1: Half a goddamn day. That's cool. Literally, you get you
Speaker 1: got half a day off because parents are meeting. Okay, right, Okay.
Speaker 1: He was just thinking about himself because he was burnt
Speaker 1: out because wine doesn't work, espresso doesn't work. He kept saying,
Speaker 1: oh right, and he can't go out for the day. Right.
Speaker 1: Do we both think Gia won this episode? Maybe? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think she was. She was the sleeper, Like I
Speaker 1: think I think if you notice what's going on with her,
Speaker 1: like she had, I think she had the biggest journey
Speaker 1: through it, you know. I think especially when when when
Speaker 1: Teresa walks in and the six year old goes to
Speaker 1: the first and then the other two, and then she
Speaker 1: is like the last one, and then she's the most upset.
Speaker 1: She's like Brian, like she can barely walk to her.
Speaker 1: Remember that she cut said, well, it's funny you said that,
Speaker 1: because it was almost like in a TV show, scripted
Speaker 1: TV show. They were like you go first and then second.
Speaker 1: The hugs were one at a time. I don't think
Speaker 1: that it was that. I think that it was absolutely
Speaker 1: entirely real. I'm just saying, yeah, it was so emotionally
Speaker 1: intense that it looked like it was a script, like
Speaker 1: it was perfect in a bad right. No, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the baby's mom. The baby like no no
Speaker 1: no filter, like just leaping like a you know, a
Speaker 1: little baby monkey into her mom's arms and then I
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna cry. And then each one and every
Speaker 1: mother must have you know. That's why people love Teresa.
Speaker 1: That people hate Theresa. She's polarizing, but they love her
Speaker 1: because she's an Italian mom in Jersey, and one of
Speaker 1: those kids at a time went and then the last
Speaker 1: one couldn't keep it like she had to. Like it
Speaker 1: was like one of those laughs or cries when you
Speaker 1: can't it's not even coming out. She just fell apart,
Speaker 1: yet exactly like she just that was. That was so
Speaker 1: you know, the ugly cry that she just was she
Speaker 1: just fell apart. Yeah, And that's the thing about a
Speaker 1: situation where you're separated from somebody and like you're literally
Speaker 1: trying to hold it together for all that time, and
Speaker 1: then when you don't have to anymore, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I just was so moved by that. The
Speaker 1: wheels was expecting it. I was not expecting to be
Speaker 1: moved and I wasn't expecting it either. I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: this is one of the best episodes in Housewives overall.
Speaker 1: It was so was the Communion, by the way, the
Speaker 1: Communion and I decided during this episode, and I bet
Speaker 1: you it's the same people that produced this in the Communion.
Speaker 1: I decided without unequivocally like, so listen, I'm Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: You got aramis, crocodile bags, you got good cheat and
Speaker 1: big houses and backyards and like lavish things that you
Speaker 1: could show and yes there's drama. Great. I think this
Speaker 1: is the best one. I think Jersey's the best one,
Speaker 1: and I agree, And I don't watch it that much
Speaker 1: because I don't care, Like I don't know how to
Speaker 1: explain it. I don't need to see these people, and
Speaker 1: I don't watch that often. But from a reality television
Speaker 1: show perspective, if you're watching, I think because like Atlanta
Speaker 1: has like outlandish antics and the fights are so insane,
Speaker 1: they're insane. Yeah, and I can't relate, but this seems real,
Speaker 1: like if it seems like the best reality it seems
Speaker 1: like yeah, and again like that weird sometimes documentary thing
Speaker 1: where we're like whoa, Okay, I was not expecting this turn.
Speaker 1: But also you know, I mean, I feel like I
Speaker 1: love that city. Had that moment with the facelip, like
Speaker 1: it cracked me up. Like I just I just feel
Speaker 1: like it's like a balance, it's more balanced. It's like
Speaker 1: we go to wackytown and then we come back, we
Speaker 1: come back home. You know. It's like there's a real
Speaker 1: family conflicts. Yeah. Yeah, and then you know, and even
Speaker 1: when um uh, Chris and Jacqueline were having that party
Speaker 1: and everyone's coming out. It's just you know, it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something about that they're saying about
Speaker 1: their house Like that felt like, oh my god, Like
Speaker 1: that's that's something like the real people do. Talians, Yeah,
Speaker 1: tallions that have had so many Christmases in that house.
Speaker 1: And I love the honesty. I didn't like Jacqueline like
Speaker 1: making it about her with the letter from jail, like
Speaker 1: being like the woman like no matter what, Like I
Speaker 1: feel like the jail card is bigger than like the
Speaker 1: pregnancy card, Like it's a jail cards, like to get
Speaker 1: out of free jail card, like to get out of
Speaker 1: free jail. You're jail for a year. Her. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: like he's making about her. I'm like, of course she's
Speaker 1: making about her. She's like she's been imprisoned for I mean,
Speaker 1: like you get if you get the day off from
Speaker 1: school because your mom's in jail for a year, you
Speaker 1: get the day off from my conflict. She gets to
Speaker 1: be she gets to have it, like she gets to
Speaker 1: win all arguments, she gets her slate clean to get
Speaker 1: get out of jail free card. She absolutely absolutely And
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, how about how about a little like,
Speaker 1: where's the adult in the room. Really, you're gonna act
Speaker 1: like a like a like you're in high school. I
Speaker 1: mean it doesn't. Yeah, I feel like it doesn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I wonder people just being dramatic for the camera,
Speaker 1: Like the producers. Here's what happened. The producers are telling Theresa,
Speaker 1: you're coming out and you've got a lot of messes
Speaker 1: to clean up, and you are a woman out. You
Speaker 1: are a woman without a country. So that's why all
Speaker 1: the letters that's the equivalent of like when a housewife
Speaker 1: is giving is doing the roll call of like inviting
Speaker 1: people that she doesn't like to a party in her backyard. Like, hey,
Speaker 1: Jane that I just met two days ago. I know
Speaker 1: that we um both like French fries, so I thought
Speaker 1: it'd be grateful and to invite you to my house
Speaker 1: where we're gonna get cupping and microL needle Like it
Speaker 1: makes no sense. So this is the producers saying like,
Speaker 1: you have no fucking friends and you need to come out,
Speaker 1: and you need this money because you need this check,
Speaker 1: and they manipulate you in the like you had a
Speaker 1: really rough season last year. The audience isn't really with you,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to really do the work and
Speaker 1: you have to film with these people and be friends.
Speaker 1: So that's what that's for. But on the other side
Speaker 1: of it, the people receiving the letters, I don't understand
Speaker 1: how you're not Like this fucking woman was in jail
Speaker 1: for a year all I'm there for her. I don't care,
Speaker 1: like I don't care what she did, Like you can't
Speaker 1: be in your own head. And the same with Joe
Speaker 1: Joe Gorga. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he seems to want
Speaker 1: the family to get back together and I don't know
Speaker 1: how they swung so far to now where he'll be
Speaker 1: like you you're a fucking garbage But Joe Joe Gorga
Speaker 1: in the flashbacks, you see him at the communion be
Speaker 1: like you're fucking piece of garbage shit, like he speaks
Speaker 1: I know his story. Yeah, no, absolutely no, And it's
Speaker 1: like it went from zero to three thousand, like But
Speaker 1: that that pendulum swing though, you know, that's it makes
Speaker 1: for interesting housewives, that's for sure. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's fun to watch from a distance. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: really lost the episode. What's that? Who? Then? Who lost
Speaker 1: the episode? Um? Maybe it was Joe. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel what you said is that as couples, Melissa
Speaker 1: and Joe are on stage and they're put on. And
Speaker 1: I really like Melissa. I think she's nice, I think
Speaker 1: she's cute. I think she's playing her own Everybody has
Speaker 1: to play. Everyone's always playing a part, so she's playing
Speaker 1: whatever parts is playing. But I think they're put on.
Speaker 1: And I think the whole like family first and families
Speaker 1: every it's all like these like mere Italian bumper stickers
Speaker 1: coming out of Joe Gorger's back at all. Totally never
Speaker 1: go against the family, and you gotta do it. And
Speaker 1: he's always giving these fucking Italian pearls a wisdom, so
Speaker 1: put him to the side. Then you have Theresa Joe,
Speaker 1: and I think they get like the authenticity, imperfect gritty award,
Speaker 1: and I think Jacqueline and Chris get like the vulnerability
Speaker 1: honesty vulnerability award. Yeah, I completely completely. And you could see,
Speaker 1: you know, you can see they're they're so emotional about
Speaker 1: their son and like just sharing. I mean, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure they were like really reserved in a sense, but
Speaker 1: I just I they were a little vulnerable, each one
Speaker 1: of them in their own way, Like when the when
Speaker 1: they when the kid was saying, I loved I loved donuts,
Speaker 1: I love Daddy. I was like, this is like this
Speaker 1: is a huge thing. And anybody that has a special
Speaker 1: needs kid understands like these are these are huge moments
Speaker 1: in their life when when a kid can suddenly say
Speaker 1: something that they couldn't say before they learned something new,
Speaker 1: and yeah, they they're trying to connect and it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, it's heartbreaking, but it's also like it's so
Speaker 1: it's love, it's reality. It's like this is where this
Speaker 1: is the real world. You know it is, but it's
Speaker 1: a lot. There's a line because yeah, I'm feeling pained
Speaker 1: for you know, I know Teresa doesn't want to be
Speaker 1: always doing that show, and she's married to a guy
Speaker 1: who I think has some money, but you actually never
Speaker 1: know because there's a lot of shadiness. And they said
Speaker 1: he bought the last it's fake CARDI bracelets and God
Speaker 1: only knows. But I get the sense she needs to
Speaker 1: do the show and she felt, especially at this time,
Speaker 1: that she needed to do the show and they needed
Speaker 1: her income and he's got to participate and the husbands
Speaker 1: and the kids on Jersey get paid, not on all
Speaker 1: the shows. Just so you know, the spouses and kids
Speaker 1: get paid on New York This fasts and kids didn't
Speaker 1: get paid on Jersey. They're like characters, which makes it
Speaker 1: again in different show. They're like a family show, so
Speaker 1: it's a different type of show. Right, So you get
Speaker 1: the sense that Chris and Jacqueline also are on the
Speaker 1: show and they need the money, like they need the
Speaker 1: money and it's not the best choice for this journey
Speaker 1: with their kids. So there's the line and there's the rub.
Speaker 1: How much do I have to like warm myself out
Speaker 1: and feel gross about something that's happening, Like I think,
Speaker 1: like it's like gross. Sometimes you're like this is gross,
Speaker 1: Like we can again do the guys of it's good
Speaker 1: for awareness, but you feel gross. They've all felt gross
Speaker 1: at some point. Sure, sure, yeah, I I completely understand.
Speaker 1: I feel gross talking about it sometimes just because I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm like, it's just like we're really it's
Speaker 1: a microscope in a someone's life, Like there's no there's
Speaker 1: no boundaries, and like I sometimes feel like should I
Speaker 1: be should we be in the room? Will you even
Speaker 1: be in this room? Oh? Well exactly, that's exactly it.
Speaker 1: Because you don't want to be in that private moment.
Speaker 1: It's a little too private. That's why I said to
Speaker 1: you though, in this case, when they've got you and
Speaker 1: when you need the money, you know, like when you're
Speaker 1: Erica Jane and you've been sued by seventy five people,
Speaker 1: you got to go back there. And it feels having
Speaker 1: firsthand experience coming back on my terms with my contract
Speaker 1: and doing it without my daughter on and with only
Speaker 1: certain days and doing it with that felt different than
Speaker 1: if you felt like you had to do it as yes,
Speaker 1: and you negotiate differently and all of it. And that's
Speaker 1: why I'm not there because I don't need to do it.
Speaker 1: I don't need my money and there's no there's no number.
Speaker 1: So I also just want to finish on the eggs.
Speaker 1: I just there was some thing about Joe asking her
Speaker 1: if she just wanted eggs for breakfast that I like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like Joe DJ in this episode. That's one of
Speaker 1: the things I want to mention because if it's authenticity.
Speaker 1: And I also learned from this episode that when Teresa
Speaker 1: was asked like, what do you want, I'll make you
Speaker 1: some eggs, She's like, I want vegetables. I know I
Speaker 1: haven't had a vegetable. They don't have vegetables in prison.
Speaker 1: I thought that too, And she wants for breakfast. I
Speaker 1: bey the vegetables, but they're like canned people, yeah or yeah,
Speaker 1: or they're just cooked to like like yeah, I guarantee
Speaker 1: they of iceberg. Sure, sure, but that's not really a vegetable. No, no,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. It's probably that overcooked canned spinach,
Speaker 1: like the cafeteria's back canned spinach. That's bad. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: worst I have to say. She she looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's like, I think you go one way or the
Speaker 1: other in prison. You either start getting like face tattoos
Speaker 1: or you're working out in your cell. What do I know?
Speaker 1: I just know from TV and Shaw Shank Redemption. But
Speaker 1: prison's tough. Wow. Well, the nice part about this for
Speaker 1: me is that I get a little of you, like
Speaker 1: I get him understanding of you, of Laire you live
Speaker 1: and how many years you were on the show, and
Speaker 1: that you do the tour and that you have a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Like somehow it seeps through. What are you working on now? Uh? Well,
Speaker 1: right now, I'm on a new cartoon on Disney called Kiff.
Speaker 1: It just started airing a couple of weeks ago. Have
Speaker 1: you done cartoons before? I have? I have a I
Speaker 1: was on a cartoon network. Um, I did a couple shows.
Speaker 1: I recurred on Stephen Universe, I did like five episodes,
Speaker 1: and then I was on a bunch of episodes of
Speaker 1: Oka Ko. I was a regular on that. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: had fun. Are they lucrative? Are they great cartoons? Um?
Speaker 1: They can be. It's just usually it's just really fun,
Speaker 1: especially when, like my boyfriend's kids were really big fans
Speaker 1: of Cartoon Network, so I was excited to be on
Speaker 1: it when they were actually into it. So that was
Speaker 1: And what do you play on KIFF? I play. I
Speaker 1: play a witch who has um a laundromat called the
Speaker 1: wish Wash. Wishwah, okay, wish wish. Yeah, it's a wish
Speaker 1: wash because after your third wash you get a wish.
Speaker 1: She'll grant your wish. But why would they not? All right,
Speaker 1: but she's a witch. I don't get it, right, I
Speaker 1: get it, but I think, all right, we could. I'll
Speaker 1: call give me their number. I want to talk to
Speaker 1: them about the why it's not called the witch wash,
Speaker 1: just if that's okay? But I get it. Um, let
Speaker 1: me ask you another question. Uh, are you like a
Speaker 1: voiceover part? Are you good at that? Like doing voices?
Speaker 1: I like it. It's fun. Um, I have a good time.
Speaker 1: I also the other thing I do that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do again. Um. Coming to this Christmas I tour with
Speaker 1: Jane Lynch. We did a Christmas album together and we
Speaker 1: do a live show like a it's a like a concert,
Speaker 1: but it's also there's a lot of comedy and it's
Speaker 1: a situation. I the very first time I ever went
Speaker 1: to a second city. Jane was understood for somebody, and
Speaker 1: then I became her understudy like a year later. Like
Speaker 1: we we did a lot of shows together in Chicago
Speaker 1: and like through the years. Um, I took classes there.
Speaker 1: Oh you're kidding how funny always likes. So you are
Speaker 1: a comedian first. You don't do stand up though I
Speaker 1: used to. I used to have a stand up BacT
Speaker 1: called the lamp Shades. We used to host stand up shows.
Speaker 1: And I had a show on tv Guide network called
Speaker 1: stand Up and Stilettos that was that was like twelve
Speaker 1: years ago, um, and that we're eleven years ago. That
Speaker 1: was it's an all female stand up show. So you're
Speaker 1: always working. You got a lot of stuff going on
Speaker 1: at all times. I do. I do. I just did
Speaker 1: an Andy film last week, and like, yeah, I'm always doing.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's I get to do a lot of
Speaker 1: different things and I really really like that. It's fun.
Speaker 1: You always how do you need to you get to
Speaker 1: be home. I'm traveling a lot lately the last couple
Speaker 1: of years. I'm hosting a big benefit next week at
Speaker 1: the Screwball for Alzheimer's research on April fifteenth. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I get to do a lot. I
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes sometimes I sit. I get to sing sometimes,
Speaker 1: but you know I sing too. Yeah, I sing with
Speaker 1: Jane Lynch. That's what we do. We do. Oh you're singing.
Speaker 1: I thought it was something comedy. We do comedy too,
Speaker 1: but we sing with a jazz bands like a variety show.
Speaker 1: Uh No, It's like it's like we're like the We're
Speaker 1: like the rat Pack, but with a couple of bronze.
Speaker 1: We're like staying with a band and having fun and
Speaker 1: like is it doing well? Yeah? Yeah, We've been doing
Speaker 1: it for like eight years. We've had at the Carlisle
Speaker 1: and the Kennedy Center. We played all over the all
Speaker 1: over the country all the time. Yeah, usually Christmas we
Speaker 1: do a big tour. Well, I'm so happy to meet you.
Speaker 1: Like it's you know. One of the best things about
Speaker 1: this is that I'm very antisocial and I really and
Speaker 1: this is not like a bit like I don't leave
Speaker 1: the house unless I have It's just it's like not great,
Speaker 1: and I tendentally get it made it way worse because
Speaker 1: like everybody just never needs to leave again, and that
Speaker 1: was crazy. But so I like meeting new people that
Speaker 1: I never would have met that I never would have
Speaker 1: When I saw you on the plane with your daughter,
Speaker 1: with your baby daughter, I did so did not want
Speaker 1: to bother you. I was like, oh my god, Like
Speaker 1: it's such a private time. And I totally totally got
Speaker 1: that even if you didn't have your baby, I probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't have bothered you. But sometimes I get somebody's that
Speaker 1: I am like, hey, we know, but you know, but
Speaker 1: I I love what you're doing this And it's really
Speaker 1: fun to revisit some of these episodes because I it's
Speaker 1: done something that I rerun or think to rerun. But
Speaker 1: now I think I might go back and watch some
Speaker 1: some more real housewives to New Jersey well, and also
Speaker 1: the conversation about it is not trashy. We're just like
Speaker 1: breaking it down and pretac and like attributing it to
Speaker 1: our own lives. And we've talked about being a mom,
Speaker 1: like you know, it's not really about like just gossip.
Speaker 1: It's about just like human absolutely and growing up into
Speaker 1: a big family, you know, and like, yeah, seeing seeing
Speaker 1: those those dynamics because you know, HGTV, everybody wants open concept.
Speaker 1: If you're from a big family, I want to shut
Speaker 1: the door. I'm sorry. Yes, if I'm in the kitchen, shut,
Speaker 1: get out of the kitchen. Get Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: to open I don't I don't want to smell it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see you let me comes really funny,
Speaker 1: It's true though, I know, always getting sold in the
Speaker 1: skill of good. There's gonna be all these houses walls.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Teresa, like what it really was like,
Speaker 1: because I feel like she wants to move away from
Speaker 1: that and not talk about it all. But everybody, really
Speaker 1: it is her identity in many ways in a positive
Speaker 1: way because it's strong. So I want to ask her
Speaker 1: that so and I think she's abroad and she's strong,
Speaker 1: so anyway, and I guess we have to maybe give
Speaker 1: her now. She didn't win the episode because she just
Speaker 1: came home her daughter, right right, Yeah, I think so,
Speaker 1: I think so yeah. And she didn't want to dancing
Speaker 1: with the stars either, but we have the same partners. No,
Speaker 1: but I don't think she's ever been a great dancer.
Speaker 1: So I think that's okay, left, like second week two
Speaker 1: right right right, right, um camp camp, God doesn't give
Speaker 1: you everything, okay, right right? So awesome. Well, thank you
Speaker 1: Bethany so much for coming on. I really appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you so much, Bath that
Speaker 1: you're the best. Thank you, bye bye bye. Uh. That
Speaker 1: was amazing. I loved it, and um god, I love
Speaker 1: the show because I love the things that we are extracting,
Speaker 1: like we that it that it came out that this
Speaker 1: is more like a documentary because I couldn't place it,
Speaker 1: like I couldn't place what was going on and why
Speaker 1: it was different, and it felt authentic, and I do
Speaker 1: stand behind I think it's the best of all the
Speaker 1: housewives for that reason. Doesn't mean I watch it, because
Speaker 1: I don't watch any of them, but there's something about
Speaker 1: it that's really gritty, really authentic, really real, not glossy
Speaker 1: and polished, and they're really family and it's not fake friendships.
Speaker 1: And what a fucking crazy situation. Someone came out of
Speaker 1: prison that we know who has kids, Like Jesus, that
Speaker 1: was insane.