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Speaker 1: We're heading back to the Jersey Shore for one of

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Speaker 1: the most memorable moments in the franchise. After eleven months

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Speaker 1: in prison, Teresa is finally heading home just in time

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Speaker 1: for Christmas with her family. The episode starts two weeks

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Speaker 1: prior leading up to the big homecoming, and we're introduced

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Speaker 1: to a new housewife, Dolores Catania. Actress and Housewives fan

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Speaker 1: Kate Flannery joins the podcast to break it all down.

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Speaker 1: This is the Real Housewives of New Jersey, Season seven,

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Speaker 1: Episode one, jingle bells and prison cells. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: So are you a Housewives fan? Overall? I'm a sporadic fan.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I get in, I get out, and

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Speaker 1: it's so I'm it's been a while, so, by the way,

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Speaker 1: same like, I don't really watch the Housewives anymore, and

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Speaker 1: this has been really sort of fun. And the truth

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Speaker 1: is many of the episodes that were reviewing I haven't

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Speaker 1: ever seen myself. When it first started, OC was on

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Speaker 1: and I remember watching that, and then um our show

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Speaker 1: was next, and out of curiosity, I was watching Jersey

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Speaker 1: and Atlanta and and because competition, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: a new franchise in town, I was watching those in

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Speaker 1: the beginning, but then there's so many you get lost

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Speaker 1: and in so many seasons, and I just like dropped

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Speaker 1: off of everything, even right shows. So yeah, and actually

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Speaker 1: I did watch What Happens Live with uh Ramona when

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Speaker 1: she was with Mario. This is like, oh, oh that's

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Speaker 1: so funny. Okay, well that was a trip trip. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So I had never seen this episode, and I am

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Speaker 1: just like shocked that that a woman who was on

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Speaker 1: this show went to jail. Like it's like, it's weird.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird world because it's looking like fun, campy

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Speaker 1: entertainment and you're like trying to jump out of that

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Speaker 1: and just say, okay, hold on, wait a second. I

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Speaker 1: know this is like a show. It feels like we're

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Speaker 1: watching Three's Company, a scripted show, but this is a

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Speaker 1: person whose kids are home waiting for their mother come

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Speaker 1: on from prison after a year. Heavy. It's so heavy.

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Speaker 1: Their moments where I'm like, oh my god, I just

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Speaker 1: I feel for those girls and yeah, yeah, it's yes,

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Speaker 1: it's nuts, and they're just like they're so young, they're

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Speaker 1: so at that off where you just need your mom.

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Speaker 1: It's so I know so much, so much to figure out,

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Speaker 1: so much to negotiate so much. I agree. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't think they covered that enough. Like

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Speaker 1: I don't give a shit with Jacqueline thinks about Teresa's letter.

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Speaker 1: I care about what a six year old you know,

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Speaker 1: I miss my mommy. What was the year life like

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Speaker 1: as a mother anyway, So you know you were so

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Speaker 1: I was searching for those moments like and just getting

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Speaker 1: them as like a hug. But like it was. It

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Speaker 1: was brutal. And I have to say, I mean, she

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Speaker 1: had no choice, but she's a badass. She's strong, like

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Speaker 1: that's she is. And you know, I have to give

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Speaker 1: her oldest daughter so much credit because clearly she was

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Speaker 1: picking up the slack and she was like being mom.

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Speaker 1: You know, you could see her with her dad, like

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Speaker 1: she was really challenging on some of his parental choices

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Speaker 1: and you know, she's like they're they're not going to school,

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Speaker 1: they're going to I just but she was like definitely

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Speaker 1: taking the role as the oldest as like the next parent.

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Speaker 1: It's funny how there that you do hear you hear that,

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Speaker 1: you hear like parents die and like someone raised their

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Speaker 1: siblings and you hear I remember Dennis Leary said he

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Speaker 1: was from a big Irish family and like the older

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Speaker 1: kids take care of the younger kids, and you don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm the onliest of seven. I totally get it.

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Speaker 1: And and my my sisters have certain tones that sound

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Speaker 1: I'm like, as like an older I'm like, knock it off. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's something for people to to think about,

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Speaker 1: this is not like the Kardashians, where the Kardashians have

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Speaker 1: I get criticized. It is Joe Giudica or g you

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Speaker 1: guy was there for a year raising four girls himself,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to stay he loud to the kids.

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Speaker 1: I'd have to go organize the closet. The first thing

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Speaker 1: miss my house. I mean she looked at Joe. They

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Speaker 1: had a moment, she didn't say anything, and then she

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Speaker 1: said I missed my house and then she said I

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Speaker 1: But also like you have to realize, so my fiance

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Speaker 1: in the dollars store, like he has no he sees

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Speaker 1: he's and that's his life, in his choice. He sees

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Speaker 1: no upside right right, So they're being hate and now

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Speaker 1: presumably they're in a financial crunch, which you later saw

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Speaker 1: after this, So there they have to play ball and

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Speaker 1: that you love with camas, it means you've chosen this family,

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Speaker 1: has chosen a lifestyle to be honest, it's a real documentary.

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Speaker 1: Then it's it's not a reality show, it's a documentary.

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Speaker 1: Like that's what I got about this episode. I was like,

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Speaker 1: reality show that an actress could do. You're right, that's

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Speaker 1: a little scene. We're gonna get you where you're just

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Speaker 1: got exactly this other shit is some different shit. You're right,

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Speaker 1: great point because Joe, after all this time being filmed

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Speaker 1: that's what I had a problem with the gweek Goop

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Speaker 1: Gwyneth bone Broth thing. She's telling him what you fucking

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Speaker 1: only bringing aramez bags in in a full face of makeup?

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Speaker 1: Like this guy Joe is being honest about who he

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Speaker 1: that was not like I don't know, that was a

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Speaker 1: How did she get a hair called? Like? Literally, I'm

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Speaker 1: asking you what do you think? Well, I mean they

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Speaker 1: But oh right, Orange was trading though. That was right,

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Speaker 1: you trade like cigarettes or MAXI what she traded. But

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Speaker 1: because I was like, that looks really good. Okay, I know, right,

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Speaker 1: And speaking of which this was I don't know how

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Speaker 1: her sister and right, right, and I liked she looked good.

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Speaker 1: as a woman who owns a shop at her husband Bill.

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Speaker 1: I want some makeup, give me some glam. Oh my god,

419
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: that's not fair, Like you're on TV and you're like

420
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: like you're doing Although I used to say like I'm

421
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 1: never gonna get laid working on the show, and I

422
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 1: ended up meeting my boyfriend on the show. We we've

423
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 1: been together for seventeen years, like I and also my

424
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: chara on the Office I did. He's an NBC photographer

425
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, my character got laid more than

426
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: anybody else on the show anyway, So that it was yeah,

427
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 1: it all worked out. It all worked out great, and

428
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: it's better not. I think it's better to look better

429
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: in real life than you do on TV. I just

430
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: do because then there's less pressure, you know what I mean. Everyone,

431
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, you look pretty Rember real life.

432
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,239
Speaker 1: And there's someone Elizabeth Moss as she gets out all

433
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: the time too. I think that's yeah, but more people

434
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: see you in not real life. That's true. Millions, Well

435
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: that's true, but I don't. I don't. But they they

436
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: they don't see me. They see my character, you know

437
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yes, like I can see you know

438
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: what I mean? And and luckily the Office has like

439
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,719
Speaker 1: an amazing fan base and everybody, you know, even though

440
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: I played an excident prone slotty drunk like, people still

441
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: like me. How many years since you've been on that show?

442
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: We just it'll be our tenth anniversary that the show

443
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: ended next month. I can't believe it. Are you closed

444
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: with everyone? Yeah, we're still on the text for it.

445
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: I see everybody. We do a lot of fan events

446
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's we're we're it's like a definitely connected Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

447
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: And we had nine seasons together mostly in the same

448
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: room in the in the main office, so we were

449
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: together all the time. That's a. I think it's a

450
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: guy from a guy from the office that was the

451
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: top performer on Cameo the app Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

452
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: Brian plays Kevin. Yeah. Actually I'm the top. I'm the top.

453
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm one of the top females. Oh you still do it?

454
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah I do. Um. There was a quote that

455
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: someone said, Um, I guess it was about Teresa. I

456
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: don't know who it was about. Oh no, it was

457
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: maybe Jacqueline about the two about Chris and Jacqueline that

458
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: you lose everything and then you get it if you

459
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: can get it all back, like I finds a person

460
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: totally totally interesting. Some people do say if I was

461
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: able to do it once, I could do it again.

462
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: That's true. True, that's true for some people. It's a

463
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: motivator for sure. Yeah. I don't know, Like I don't

464
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: know that I could do what I did again starting

465
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: from being nobody and be like I always feel like

466
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: I overshot the mark, Like, I don't know, do you,

467
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it, you think you could go

468
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: back be a nobody actress? Any Well? I feel like

469
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: I was. I feel like I was on a certain

470
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: trajectory in my twenties and then like my thirties hit

471
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: and I feel like I got involved with a guy

472
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: who I shared credit with and I shouldn't have and

473
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: I had a declared bankruptcy and I slept on couches

474
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: in York. It was like, oh, I got like the

475
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: I made some big mistakes. So I feel like any

476
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: of the momentum that I had, I kind of had

477
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: to start over. I mean I did have to start

478
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: That's why I was still waiting tables when I got

479
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: the office, because I was like, I'm not going through

480
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: this again. I'm not just going to quit until I

481
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: know what to expect. Because a lot of shows though

482
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: have a season maybe too, but then that's it, you know.

483
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: So I didn't know if we were gonna get picked up,

484
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: So I kind of have a little sense of that

485
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: of the kind of like, okay, you and I knew

486
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: no one else could bail me out of it. Like

487
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: I knew I made some mistakes, and I was the

488
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: one that was going to have to to build up

489
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: everything back again. And you know, whatever I lost, I

490
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: was going to have to figure it out how to

491
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: how to get it back so I could do it again. Yeah,

492
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: I do, but but it's different. I wasn't. I wasn't famous.

493
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: I mean, some people knew me as an actor, but

494
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't. No, that's what I mean to go back. Yeah,

495
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: I think it's different. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean maybe,

496
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think I think it's

497
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: a really good opportunity. I think it's a spiritual opportunity

498
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: because I think you really figure out who's bullshit in

499
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: your life and who's not, and you get to let

500
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: go of the you know that just that the people

501
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: that suck you dry or criticize you all the time,

502
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: like you get to pick you get to take care

503
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: of yourself in a better way. I think, right, you know,

504
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: so let's just discuss the Teresa. I don't know how

505
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: many seasons that show has been, ladies, please tell me,

506
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: but she's been on that show. So there are women

507
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: who've been on the show since day one. It's unbelievable.

508
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: I left twice. Yeah, like yeah, I left the first

509
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: time after three years, a second time I think after

510
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: four or five. There were thirteen seeds. She's been on

511
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: for thirteen years of her life on this freaking show.

512
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: It's insane. Well, year she was in prison, so she

513
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: had a break sorry, yeah, but I'm sure they were

514
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: coming and they were filming right right and voice yeah, yeah,

515
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: a lot of conversations for sure. Yeah. And and also

516
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: sometimes shows do take a break for like six eight

517
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: months anyway, like maybe when her break was how long

518
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: was your Office? Nine seasons? So you were on that show, right,

519
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: So imagine it was all about exposing yourself and every

520
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: into your life for them, and that I can't imagine.

521
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not really wired for that. I'm just

522
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's not for you. I'm okay, I mean,

523
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm not wired for it either. Believe it.

524
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm good at it, but I'm not into, like, you know,

525
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: a daily rectal exam. Why not, Bethany, you want to

526
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: see give the people what they want. Here is my ass,

527
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: and I'm showing it to you live watch what happens

528
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: up my ass. It's so true. I always say, like, um,

529
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm always nervous when I feel like I've shown every

530
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: body my armpit and my underpants, which I sort of

531
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: got to do on the Office a little bit, but

532
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: as my character did, so that's a little different. I

533
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: don't think I could recognize my own armpit by the

534
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: way in a photo. I don't think I could. I

535
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: don't know if I like a freckle or a defining

536
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: feature on it, but I'm gonna look at it. The

537
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: second we finished, um so, I was shocked, like Teresa's

538
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: really famous, Like that's a lot of paparazzi too, Like yeah,

539
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: like you know outside oj sause poparazzi when you have

540
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: like totally cameras. Yeah, when you see the cameras on there,

541
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: there weren't fifty of them, but still, like, I don't

542
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: think I've ever had cameras on sticks outside summer. I

543
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: was that's like elite paparazzi stuff. Yeah, I mean maybe

544
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: it was a slow newsday five in the morning. I

545
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,239
Speaker 1: know paparazzi to be very lazy. It's one thing if

546
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm in Miami and I go take a beach walk

547
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: at seven in the morning because I'm up early, They're

548
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: not gonna fucking get me go ten o'clock, they're all there.

549
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: They're fucking lazy. So so bo Bravo did not spring

550
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: for like a bunch of cars, like they didn't manufacture

551
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: any of that. That was all like as it was.

552
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't remember pop razzi definitely not. Okay, okay, And

553
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: I just go back to what he said she wasn't

554
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: a mom for a year. I mean babies like and

555
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, Gia is like picking up the mantel, you know,

556
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: even when like the mom's half hour, she's, mom's gonna

557
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: be here in half an hour, and she's and the

558
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: and the one daughter's a sleep in bed, She's like,

559
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: you gotta get up, like you gotta get dressed. She's like, oh,

560
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: she brushed her hair. She's she's you know, she's and

561
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: she's criticizing Joe's parenting and fixed her mom's hair. And

562
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah, I think your mom coming up

563
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: for prison after your year would mean no school today, right, right,

564
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: they'd let those kids out for her parent teacher conferences.

565
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: Half a goddamn day. That's cool. Literally, you get you

566
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: got half a day off because parents are meeting. Okay, right, Okay.

567
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: He was just thinking about himself because he was burnt

568
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: out because wine doesn't work, espresso doesn't work. He kept saying,

569
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: oh right, and he can't go out for the day. Right.

570
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: Do we both think Gia won this episode? Maybe? Yeah,

571
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: I think she was. She was the sleeper, Like I

572
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: think I think if you notice what's going on with her,

573
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: like she had, I think she had the biggest journey

574
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: through it, you know. I think especially when when when

575
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: Teresa walks in and the six year old goes to

576
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: the first and then the other two, and then she

577
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: is like the last one, and then she's the most upset.

578
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: She's like Brian, like she can barely walk to her.

579
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: Remember that she cut said, well, it's funny you said that,

580
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: because it was almost like in a TV show, scripted

581
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: TV show. They were like you go first and then second.

582
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: The hugs were one at a time. I don't think

583
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: that it was that. I think that it was absolutely

584
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: entirely real. I'm just saying, yeah, it was so emotionally

585
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: intense that it looked like it was a script, like

586
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: it was perfect in a bad right. No, no, no, yeah,

587
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: it was the baby's mom. The baby like no no

588
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: no filter, like just leaping like a you know, a

589
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: little baby monkey into her mom's arms and then I

590
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna cry. And then each one and every

591
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: mother must have you know. That's why people love Teresa.

592
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: That people hate Theresa. She's polarizing, but they love her

593
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: because she's an Italian mom in Jersey, and one of

594
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: those kids at a time went and then the last

595
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: one couldn't keep it like she had to. Like it

596
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: was like one of those laughs or cries when you

597
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: can't it's not even coming out. She just fell apart,

598
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: yet exactly like she just that was. That was so

599
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: you know, the ugly cry that she just was she

600
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: just fell apart. Yeah, And that's the thing about a

601
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: situation where you're separated from somebody and like you're literally

602
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: trying to hold it together for all that time, and

603
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: then when you don't have to anymore, it's like, yeah,

604
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: I just I just was so moved by that. The

605
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: wheels was expecting it. I was not expecting to be

606
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: moved and I wasn't expecting it either. I thought to myself,

607
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: this is one of the best episodes in Housewives overall.

608
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: It was so was the Communion, by the way, the

609
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: Communion and I decided during this episode, and I bet

610
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: you it's the same people that produced this in the Communion.

611
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: I decided without unequivocally like, so listen, I'm Beverly Hills.

612
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: You got aramis, crocodile bags, you got good cheat and

613
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: big houses and backyards and like lavish things that you

614
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: could show and yes there's drama. Great. I think this

615
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: is the best one. I think Jersey's the best one,

616
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: and I agree, And I don't watch it that much

617
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: because I don't care, Like I don't know how to

618
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: explain it. I don't need to see these people, and

619
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't watch that often. But from a reality television

620
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: show perspective, if you're watching, I think because like Atlanta

621
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: has like outlandish antics and the fights are so insane,

622
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: they're insane. Yeah, and I can't relate, but this seems real,

623
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: like if it seems like the best reality it seems

624
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: like yeah, and again like that weird sometimes documentary thing

625
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: where we're like whoa, Okay, I was not expecting this turn.

626
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: But also you know, I mean, I feel like I

627
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: love that city. Had that moment with the facelip, like

628
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: it cracked me up. Like I just I just feel

629
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 1: like it's like a balance, it's more balanced. It's like

630
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: we go to wackytown and then we come back, we

631
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: come back home. You know. It's like there's a real

632
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: family conflicts. Yeah. Yeah, and then you know, and even

633
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: when um uh, Chris and Jacqueline were having that party

634
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: and everyone's coming out. It's just you know, it's like,

635
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something about that they're saying about

636
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: their house Like that felt like, oh my god, Like

637
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: that's that's something like the real people do. Talians, Yeah,

638
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: tallions that have had so many Christmases in that house.

639
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: And I love the honesty. I didn't like Jacqueline like

640
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: making it about her with the letter from jail, like

641
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 1: being like the woman like no matter what, Like I

642
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: feel like the jail card is bigger than like the

643
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: pregnancy card, Like it's a jail cards, like to get

644
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: out of free jail card, like to get out of

645
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: free jail. You're jail for a year. Her. Yeah, she's

646
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: like he's making about her. I'm like, of course she's

647
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: making about her. She's like she's been imprisoned for I mean,

648
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 1: like you get if you get the day off from

649
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: school because your mom's in jail for a year, you

650
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: get the day off from my conflict. She gets to

651
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: be she gets to have it, like she gets to

652
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: win all arguments, she gets her slate clean to get

653
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: get out of jail free card. She absolutely absolutely And

654
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, how about how about a little like,

655
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: where's the adult in the room. Really, you're gonna act

656
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: like a like a like you're in high school. I

657
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: mean it doesn't. Yeah, I feel like it doesn't. Yeah,

658
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: And I wonder people just being dramatic for the camera,

659
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: Like the producers. Here's what happened. The producers are telling Theresa,

660
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: you're coming out and you've got a lot of messes

661
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: to clean up, and you are a woman out. You

662
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: are a woman without a country. So that's why all

663
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: the letters that's the equivalent of like when a housewife

664
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: is giving is doing the roll call of like inviting

665
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: people that she doesn't like to a party in her backyard. Like, hey,

666
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: Jane that I just met two days ago. I know

667
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: that we um both like French fries, so I thought

668
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: it'd be grateful and to invite you to my house

669
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: where we're gonna get cupping and microL needle Like it

670
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: makes no sense. So this is the producers saying like,

671
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: you have no fucking friends and you need to come out,

672
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: and you need this money because you need this check,

673
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: and they manipulate you in the like you had a

674
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: really rough season last year. The audience isn't really with you,

675
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to really do the work and

676
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: you have to film with these people and be friends.

677
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: So that's what that's for. But on the other side

678
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: of it, the people receiving the letters, I don't understand

679
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: how you're not Like this fucking woman was in jail

680
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: for a year all I'm there for her. I don't care,

681
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: like I don't care what she did, Like you can't

682
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: be in your own head. And the same with Joe

683
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: Joe Gorga. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he seems to want

684
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: the family to get back together and I don't know

685
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: how they swung so far to now where he'll be

686
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: like you you're a fucking garbage But Joe Joe Gorga

687
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: in the flashbacks, you see him at the communion be

688
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: like you're fucking piece of garbage shit, like he speaks

689
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: I know his story. Yeah, no, absolutely no, And it's

690
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: like it went from zero to three thousand, like But

691
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: that that pendulum swing though, you know, that's it makes

692
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: for interesting housewives, that's for sure. I mean, you know,

693
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: it's it's fun to watch from a distance. I wouldn't

694
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: really lost the episode. What's that? Who? Then? Who lost

695
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: the episode? Um? Maybe it was Joe. I don't know. Well,

696
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: I feel what you said is that as couples, Melissa

697
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: and Joe are on stage and they're put on. And

698
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: I really like Melissa. I think she's nice, I think

699
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: she's cute. I think she's playing her own Everybody has

700
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: to play. Everyone's always playing a part, so she's playing

701
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: whatever parts is playing. But I think they're put on.

702
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: And I think the whole like family first and families

703
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: every it's all like these like mere Italian bumper stickers

704
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: coming out of Joe Gorger's back at all. Totally never

705
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: go against the family, and you gotta do it. And

706
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: he's always giving these fucking Italian pearls a wisdom, so

707
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: put him to the side. Then you have Theresa Joe,

708
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: and I think they get like the authenticity, imperfect gritty award,

709
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: and I think Jacqueline and Chris get like the vulnerability

710
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: honesty vulnerability award. Yeah, I completely completely. And you could see,

711
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, you can see they're they're so emotional about

712
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: their son and like just sharing. I mean, and I'm

713
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: sure they were like really reserved in a sense, but

714
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: I just I they were a little vulnerable, each one

715
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: of them in their own way, Like when the when

716
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: they when the kid was saying, I loved I loved donuts,

717
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: I love Daddy. I was like, this is like this

718
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: is a huge thing. And anybody that has a special

719
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: needs kid understands like these are these are huge moments

720
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: in their life when when a kid can suddenly say

721
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: something that they couldn't say before they learned something new,

722
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: and yeah, they they're trying to connect and it's just,

723
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's heartbreaking, but it's also like it's so

724
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: it's love, it's reality. It's like this is where this

725
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: is the real world. You know it is, but it's

726
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: a lot. There's a line because yeah, I'm feeling pained

727
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: for you know, I know Teresa doesn't want to be

728
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: always doing that show, and she's married to a guy

729
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: who I think has some money, but you actually never

730
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: know because there's a lot of shadiness. And they said

731
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: he bought the last it's fake CARDI bracelets and God

732
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: only knows. But I get the sense she needs to

733
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: do the show and she felt, especially at this time,

734
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: that she needed to do the show and they needed

735
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: her income and he's got to participate and the husbands

736
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: and the kids on Jersey get paid, not on all

737
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 1: the shows. Just so you know, the spouses and kids

738
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: get paid on New York This fasts and kids didn't

739
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: get paid on Jersey. They're like characters, which makes it

740
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: again in different show. They're like a family show, so

741
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: it's a different type of show. Right, So you get

742
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: the sense that Chris and Jacqueline also are on the

743
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: show and they need the money, like they need the

744
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: money and it's not the best choice for this journey

745
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: with their kids. So there's the line and there's the rub.

746
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: How much do I have to like warm myself out

747
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: and feel gross about something that's happening, Like I think,

748
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: like it's like gross. Sometimes you're like this is gross,

749
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: Like we can again do the guys of it's good

750
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: for awareness, but you feel gross. They've all felt gross

751
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: at some point. Sure, sure, yeah, I I completely understand.

752
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: I feel gross talking about it sometimes just because I

753
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: feel like I'm like, it's just like we're really it's

754
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: a microscope in a someone's life, Like there's no there's

755
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: no boundaries, and like I sometimes feel like should I

756
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: be should we be in the room? Will you even

757
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: be in this room? Oh? Well exactly, that's exactly it.

758
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: Because you don't want to be in that private moment.

759
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: It's a little too private. That's why I said to

760
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: you though, in this case, when they've got you and

761
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: when you need the money, you know, like when you're

762
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: Erica Jane and you've been sued by seventy five people,

763
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: you got to go back there. And it feels having

764
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: firsthand experience coming back on my terms with my contract

765
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: and doing it without my daughter on and with only

766
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: certain days and doing it with that felt different than

767
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: if you felt like you had to do it as yes,

768
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: and you negotiate differently and all of it. And that's

769
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: why I'm not there because I don't need to do it.

770
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't need my money and there's no there's no number.

771
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: So I also just want to finish on the eggs.

772
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 1: I just there was some thing about Joe asking her

773
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: if she just wanted eggs for breakfast that I like, Yeah,

774
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: I like Joe DJ in this episode. That's one of

775
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: the things I want to mention because if it's authenticity.

776
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: And I also learned from this episode that when Teresa

777
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: was asked like, what do you want, I'll make you

778
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: some eggs, She's like, I want vegetables. I know I

779
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: haven't had a vegetable. They don't have vegetables in prison.

780
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: I thought that too, And she wants for breakfast. I

781
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: bey the vegetables, but they're like canned people, yeah or yeah,

782
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: or they're just cooked to like like yeah, I guarantee

783
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: they of iceberg. Sure, sure, but that's not really a vegetable. No, no,

784
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. It's probably that overcooked canned spinach,

785
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: like the cafeteria's back canned spinach. That's bad. Yeah, the

786
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: worst I have to say. She she looks pretty good.

787
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: It's like, I think you go one way or the

788
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: other in prison. You either start getting like face tattoos

789
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: or you're working out in your cell. What do I know?

790
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: I just know from TV and Shaw Shank Redemption. But

791
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: prison's tough. Wow. Well, the nice part about this for

792
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: me is that I get a little of you, like

793
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: I get him understanding of you, of Laire you live

794
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: and how many years you were on the show, and

795
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: that you do the tour and that you have a boyfriend.

796
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: Like somehow it seeps through. What are you working on now? Uh? Well,

797
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: right now, I'm on a new cartoon on Disney called Kiff.

798
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: It just started airing a couple of weeks ago. Have

799
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: you done cartoons before? I have? I have a I

800
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: was on a cartoon network. Um, I did a couple shows.

801
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: I recurred on Stephen Universe, I did like five episodes,

802
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: and then I was on a bunch of episodes of

803
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: Oka Ko. I was a regular on that. Yeah, I've

804
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: had fun. Are they lucrative? Are they great cartoons? Um?

805
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: They can be. It's just usually it's just really fun,

806
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: especially when, like my boyfriend's kids were really big fans

807
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: of Cartoon Network, so I was excited to be on

808
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: it when they were actually into it. So that was

809
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: And what do you play on KIFF? I play. I

810
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: play a witch who has um a laundromat called the

811
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: wish Wash. Wishwah, okay, wish wish. Yeah, it's a wish

812
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: wash because after your third wash you get a wish.

813
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: She'll grant your wish. But why would they not? All right,

814
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: but she's a witch. I don't get it, right, I

815
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: get it, but I think, all right, we could. I'll

816
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: call give me their number. I want to talk to

817
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: them about the why it's not called the witch wash,

818
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: just if that's okay? But I get it. Um, let

819
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: me ask you another question. Uh, are you like a

820
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: voiceover part? Are you good at that? Like doing voices?

821
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: I like it. It's fun. Um, I have a good time.

822
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: I also the other thing I do that I'm gonna

823
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: do again. Um. Coming to this Christmas I tour with

824
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: Jane Lynch. We did a Christmas album together and we

825
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: do a live show like a it's a like a concert,

826
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: but it's also there's a lot of comedy and it's

827
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: a situation. I the very first time I ever went

828
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: to a second city. Jane was understood for somebody, and

829
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: then I became her understudy like a year later. Like

830
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: we we did a lot of shows together in Chicago

831
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: and like through the years. Um, I took classes there.

832
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: Oh you're kidding how funny always likes. So you are

833
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: a comedian first. You don't do stand up though I

834
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: used to. I used to have a stand up BacT

835
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: called the lamp Shades. We used to host stand up shows.

836
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: And I had a show on tv Guide network called

837
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Speaker 1: stand Up and Stilettos that was that was like twelve

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Speaker 1: years ago, um, and that we're eleven years ago. That

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Speaker 1: was it's an all female stand up show. So you're

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Speaker 1: always working. You got a lot of stuff going on

841
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: at all times. I do. I do. I just did

842
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: an Andy film last week, and like, yeah, I'm always doing.

843
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's I get to do a lot of

844
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: different things and I really really like that. It's fun.

845
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Speaker 1: You always how do you need to you get to

846
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: be home. I'm traveling a lot lately the last couple

847
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: of years. I'm hosting a big benefit next week at

848
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Speaker 1: the Screwball for Alzheimer's research on April fifteenth. But yeah,

849
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I get to do a lot. I

850
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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes sometimes I sit. I get to sing sometimes,

851
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: but you know I sing too. Yeah, I sing with

852
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: Jane Lynch. That's what we do. We do. Oh you're singing.

853
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Speaker 1: I thought it was something comedy. We do comedy too,

854
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: but we sing with a jazz bands like a variety show.

855
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Speaker 1: Uh No, It's like it's like we're like the We're

856
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: like the rat Pack, but with a couple of bronze.

857
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: We're like staying with a band and having fun and

858
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Speaker 1: like is it doing well? Yeah? Yeah, We've been doing

859
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: it for like eight years. We've had at the Carlisle

860
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: and the Kennedy Center. We played all over the all

861
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: over the country all the time. Yeah, usually Christmas we

862
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: do a big tour. Well, I'm so happy to meet you.

863
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Like it's you know. One of the best things about

864
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: this is that I'm very antisocial and I really and

865
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: this is not like a bit like I don't leave

866
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: the house unless I have It's just it's like not great,

867
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Speaker 1: and I tendentally get it made it way worse because

868
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: like everybody just never needs to leave again, and that

869
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: was crazy. But so I like meeting new people that

870
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: I never would have met that I never would have

871
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: When I saw you on the plane with your daughter,

872
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: with your baby daughter, I did so did not want

873
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: to bother you. I was like, oh my god, Like

874
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: it's such a private time. And I totally totally got

875
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: that even if you didn't have your baby, I probably

876
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't have bothered you. But sometimes I get somebody's that

877
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: I am like, hey, we know, but you know, but

878
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: I I love what you're doing this And it's really

879
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: fun to revisit some of these episodes because I it's

880
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: done something that I rerun or think to rerun. But

881
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: now I think I might go back and watch some

882
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: some more real housewives to New Jersey well, and also

883
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: the conversation about it is not trashy. We're just like

884
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: breaking it down and pretac and like attributing it to

885
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: our own lives. And we've talked about being a mom,

886
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: like you know, it's not really about like just gossip.

887
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: It's about just like human absolutely and growing up into

888
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: a big family, you know, and like, yeah, seeing seeing

889
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: those those dynamics because you know, HGTV, everybody wants open concept.

890
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Speaker 1: If you're from a big family, I want to shut

891
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: the door. I'm sorry. Yes, if I'm in the kitchen, shut,

892
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: get out of the kitchen. Get Yeah, I don't want

893
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Speaker 1: to open I don't I don't want to smell it. Yes,

894
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to see you let me comes really funny,

895
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Speaker 1: It's true though, I know, always getting sold in the

896
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Speaker 1: skill of good. There's gonna be all these houses walls.

897
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Teresa, like what it really was like,

898
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: because I feel like she wants to move away from

899
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: that and not talk about it all. But everybody, really

900
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Speaker 1: it is her identity in many ways in a positive

901
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: way because it's strong. So I want to ask her

902
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: that so and I think she's abroad and she's strong,

903
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: so anyway, and I guess we have to maybe give

904
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Speaker 1: her now. She didn't win the episode because she just

905
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Speaker 1: came home her daughter, right right, Yeah, I think so,

906
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: I think so yeah. And she didn't want to dancing

907
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: with the stars either, but we have the same partners. No,

908
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: but I don't think she's ever been a great dancer.

909
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: So I think that's okay, left, like second week two

910
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Speaker 1: right right right, right, um camp camp, God doesn't give

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00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: you everything, okay, right right? So awesome. Well, thank you

912
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: Bethany so much for coming on. I really appreciate it.

913
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Speaker 1: Anything you wanted to mention or promoter or no, I

914
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: just I enjoy your products as a as a person

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00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: who's a fan of alcohol. Thing. Oh I'm gonna send

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Speaker 1: you forever. Yeah, oh my god. Our Rose just Um

917
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Speaker 1: is launching now and it won. It got the highest

918
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Speaker 1: rating in precedent, like unprecedented rating in US history. Like

919
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: it's not like Skinny Girl was great and it's fun,

920
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: it's whimsical in my thirties. This is like a legit

921
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Speaker 1: major wine. So let me put you on the list.

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Speaker 1: You're not slepping labels on like Ramona. No, No, I

923
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: never was. I've been in Central pay I've been in

924
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: say barts for me, I've been like to the vineyard,

925
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: I've been to the winery. Um the woman. Okay, good,

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Speaker 1: I'm putting you on the list so you'll get Oh

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00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: you're so sweet, thank you. Oh my gosh, I didn't

928
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Speaker 1: get you anything. Oh my god, you're the best. You

929
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Speaker 1: don't need to. It's amazing. It's an amazing wine. You'll

930
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: be obsessed. It's called Forever Young. Oh my gosh, so

931
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: love it. I'm gonna give you a dundee if you're

932
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: not an Oh, I want one? That What do you mean?

933
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Speaker 1: That's big? Pause, gonna be I want that. That's like perfect,

934
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: that's like getting like you really are. You could give

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00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: me one. I'll work on it. How did you get

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00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: my people to you? Yeah, all right, we'll see. It's

937
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: not a promise, that's not binding. You'll see what happens. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you so much, Bath that

939
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Speaker 1: you're the best. Thank you, bye bye bye. Uh. That

940
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: was amazing. I loved it, and um god, I love

941
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: the show because I love the things that we are extracting,

942
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: like we that it that it came out that this

943
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: is more like a documentary because I couldn't place it,

944
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: like I couldn't place what was going on and why

945
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: it was different, and it felt authentic, and I do

946
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: stand behind I think it's the best of all the

947
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: housewives for that reason. Doesn't mean I watch it, because

948
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't watch any of them, but there's something about

949
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: it that's really gritty, really authentic, really real, not glossy

950
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: and polished, and they're really family and it's not fake friendships.

951
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: And what a fucking crazy situation. Someone came out of

952
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: prison that we know who has kids, Like Jesus, that

953
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: was insane.