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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Hurdle, a podcast that talks to top

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and badass humans who got through a tough time

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Speaker 1: in their life a hurdle of sorts by leaning into wellness.

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Speaker 1: My name's Emily a Body And for those of you

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Speaker 1: just listening in for the first time, Hey, thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming to hang out with me. I'm a certified trainer,

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Speaker 1: run and spin coach, also a writer, editor, and podcaster

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Speaker 1: living here in New York City. On today's episode, I

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Speaker 1: sit down with Sadie Lincoln, the founder and CEO of

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Speaker 1: popular ballet bar Workout Bar three, which now boasts more

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Speaker 1: than one hundred and twenty five franchises, exotic retreats, and

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Speaker 1: a massive online digital community. Crazy to think that none

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Speaker 1: of this would have been possible if the mother of

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Speaker 1: two didn't face her own hurdle moment in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight, which had her and her husband Chris, selling

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Speaker 1: absolutely everything they owned on Craigslist and moving to Portland

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Speaker 1: to open the company's flagship studio Quick Thanks to the

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Speaker 1: Emily at hurdle dot us. And in there you'll also

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Speaker 1: find tidbits from my guests, fun stuff, and last but

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Speaker 1: not least, I feel the need to throw a little

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Speaker 1: itty bitty disclaimer in here right now. When I recorded

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Speaker 1: with Sadie, my voice was one hundred percent shot. You'll

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Speaker 1: definitely hear that throughout the episode. That's an understatement, So

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Speaker 1: thanks as always for bearing with me. I guess that's

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Speaker 1: what I get for teaching eight plus spin classes while

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Speaker 1: training for the Boston Marathon in one week. I promise

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Speaker 1: you from Sadie's totally wild stories from her unconventional upbringing

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Speaker 1: to her wisdom on how to truly honor your body.

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Speaker 1: This episode, well it's one of my favorites so far.

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Speaker 1: And with that, well let's get to hurdling. Really really excited,

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Speaker 1: total understatement to be sitting here today with Sadie Lincoln,

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Speaker 1: the owner of a family of bar studios called Bar three. Sadie,

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Speaker 1: Happy to have you here today, Happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot to cover here. When did

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Speaker 1: you first get into working out? You just you as

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Speaker 1: you are. I always moved intuitively, and I've come to

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Speaker 1: redefine working out as moving and feeling good in my body,

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Speaker 1: at home in my body. And I grew up moving intuitively, walking, hiking, dancing, I.

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Speaker 2: Went to art schools.

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Speaker 1: I danced when I was little, and then I discovered

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Speaker 1: that workout, working out was a thing. In the eighties,

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Speaker 2: So what you're saying is, Jane Fauna didn't actually show

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Speaker 1: So that's when I discovered, you know this whole thing

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Speaker 1: called working out in fitness. I captivated my attention for sure.

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Speaker 1: It was joyful and fun. And in college I went

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Speaker 1: to UCLA. I went to City College first. I always

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Speaker 2: What kind of classes were you teaching at first? At UCLA?

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Speaker 1: Mostly step and I did a little hip hop, cardio, kickboxing, slide.

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Speaker 2: Slide, Yeah, oh gosh, do you remember the slide? I mean,

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Speaker 1: If you're listening and you remember the slide, you're you're

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Speaker 1: So you're probably referring to my mom and my aunt's house,

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Speaker 1: and my mom and her found her best friends for life.

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Speaker 1: It's a true love story. They're still best friends to

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Speaker 1: this day. When they were in their early twenties, they

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Speaker 1: and all connected and ended up all having children. The

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Speaker 1: they basically said, hey, let's write our kids together. Let's collaborate.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's out of practicality but also just it

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Speaker 1: was a time of trying a different way. And we

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Speaker 1: and Liz, for example, were roommates, and Sophia and I

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Speaker 2: I love the name Sheia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we all have funny names. My real name's Mercedes.

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Speaker 1: I was named by a sheep herder. I'm not kidding you.

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Speaker 1: My mom, we all were born at home, and my

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Speaker 1: his mother, Mercedes. Fast forward again. You are at UCLA.

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Speaker 1: You're teaching group fitness, including slide. When are you at

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Speaker 1: the point where you start to realize, like, maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know I could have this thriving

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Speaker 2: Big fitness company, I would think that it's safe to

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Speaker 2: say a big fitness company is probably an understatement. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty four hour fitness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I joined when we ride out of grad school,

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Speaker 1: you know, school of hard knocks basically got my working MBA,

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Speaker 1: the time you leave twenty four hour Fitness, you have

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Speaker 1: met your husband. Yes, yeah, So tell me a little

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Speaker 1: bit about how you met your husband.

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Speaker 2: Chris.

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Speaker 1: We just got back from San Francisco. Actually, we were

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Speaker 1: celebrating our twenty year meeting anniversary. We met at a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl party. That's really awesome that you guys celebrate

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Speaker 1: things like that. One day, my to be husband, wherever

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Speaker 2: It's truly.

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Speaker 1: I was just talking to my brother about this last night.

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Speaker 1: It's I there's something when you find that person. I

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Speaker 1: And thank goodness I did, because I would not be

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Speaker 1: sitting here talking to you about this company that we've

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Speaker 1: built together. If I hadn't everything we've built together. So

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Speaker 2: That's really special.

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Speaker 1: Chris also worked at twenty four Hour Fitness, and one day,

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Speaker 1: Chris kind of proposes to you that maybe you both

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Speaker 1: We are actually considering leaving twenty for our Fitness and

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Speaker 1: running yoga studios for Mark, because Mark Mastrop's the founder

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Speaker 1: to buy this house, right, but let's sell it and

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Speaker 1: We're on this climbing the ladder, you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: that that led to the idea of, well, maybe we

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Speaker 2: And I was going to.

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Speaker 1: Say, how did you feel when he like presented you

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Speaker 2: So in love with him at that moment?

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Speaker 1: For one thing, he's really analytical and grounded and more of.

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Speaker 1: I am new shiny thing adventure seeker, always wanting to

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Speaker 1: attached to anything except a love of learning and a

437
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Speaker 1: love of continual, continuous, kind of fluid discovery of what

438
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Speaker 1: balance means in the body. And so that's the only

439
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: thing to this day we're connected to at R three.

440
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Speaker 1: The three is a symbol of balance like a triangle,

441
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Speaker 1: which is a lovely balanced shape. And we're not trying

442
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Speaker 1: to be balanced. We are in a practice of discovering,

443
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Speaker 1: really recognizing imbalances, and being okay with imbalances because.

444
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Speaker 2: That's what living is.

445
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: We're imperfect people, that's what humanity is all about. And

446
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: so instead of being shameful of imbalances, recognizing them and

447
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Speaker 1: working towards a more balanced state. And that was that

448
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: was my like to this day, my north star that

449
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: allowed me to make all the business decisions decisions.

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Speaker 2: I did talk to me.

451
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Speaker 1: A little bit about a bar in general. I think

452
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: some people listening at home might not have a full

453
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: understanding of what a bar kind of work out really entails.

454
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Speaker 1: So talk to me about how you view bar, where

455
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Speaker 1: you drew some of your inspiration from, and then how

456
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Speaker 1: that ultimately became what you teach inside of the studios. Well,

457
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Speaker 1: the ballet bar is what we're talking about, and I

458
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Speaker 1: just think it's the most beautiful prop right and it's

459
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Speaker 1: a place to support yourself. It's as soon as you touch,

460
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Speaker 1: it's just like instant posture and grace and connectivity. And

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Speaker 1: I was taking some bar classes I taught for a

462
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Speaker 1: bar studio for a little bit and the bar phenomenon

463
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Speaker 1: that we know today and my major competitors Pure Bar

464
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Speaker 1: Bar Method, Daily Methods fifty seven and I'm so appreciative

465
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Speaker 1: of every single one of them. They're all, for the record,

466
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: founded by amazing strong women, which I think is incredible,

467
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: and they're all wildly successful, and they are also all

468
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: tied to a heritage called the Lottie Brick Method, and

469
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Speaker 1: they honor that heritage. I'm not tied to that. I'm

470
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Speaker 1: a little inspired by it, but it's not where I

471
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Speaker 1: pull from. I use the ballet bar more as a

472
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Speaker 1: prop to allow people to be supported. So, if you

473
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Speaker 1: think about it, one thing I love about the ballet

474
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Speaker 1: bar is that it wraps around the room like a circle,

475
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Speaker 1: so it automatically creates community. We're all in a circle together,

476
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: shoulder to shoulder, and yet each of us are turned

477
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Speaker 1: towards that ballet bar and allowed to honor our truth.

478
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Speaker 1: There's the sense of being an individual and being able

479
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Speaker 1: to do exactly what's right for you at the ballet bar.

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Speaker 1: So I have a very specific philosophy that the ballet

481
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: bar supports that's about honoring your truth actually not doing

482
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Speaker 1: what your neighbor's doing next to you, not competing with

483
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Speaker 1: your neighbor next to you, but instead literally and figuratively

484
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: standing up for yourself at the bar and doing what's

485
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: right for yourself. I will be the first person to

486
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: raise my hand and say, I feel as though I'm

487
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: not very good at bar, although I do love Bar three.

488
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: The West Village Studio here in New York City is

489
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: absolutely gorgeous and bright, and it makes me feel so

490
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: happy when I walk in there. But for me, it

491
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Speaker 1: definitely is walking in there and looking for balance because

492
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Speaker 1: I am a very big runner. I have very weak hips,

493
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Speaker 1: and so I go into a bar class and I'm

494
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Speaker 1: doing things like cliaise, different movements that really focus in

495
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: on the glutes and the hips, and man, is that

496
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Speaker 1: a humbling experience?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We follow.

498
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Speaker 1: Our approach has three steps. We hold the body in

499
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Speaker 1: an isometric hold, which most bar studios do. These two

500
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: first steps, you hold the body in an isometric hold

501
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: where you're taxing your muscles at the deepest point and

502
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: in squats lunges we call it horse post, which is

503
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: a less turned out position than the second position. And

504
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: then we add on a controlled, small range of motion

505
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: to really work on stamina, endurance, resilience. That's when the bodies,

506
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 1: the muscles start to fatigue and fail. And then the

507
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: third layer that we put on is large range of motion,

508
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: which is functional movement, like a full squat, sitting all

509
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: the way down and standing all the way up, and

510
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: it's all we're not jumping, and yet it's incredibly challenging

511
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: and you know, tests your you know, it pushes you

512
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone, but in a sophisticated, mindful way.

513
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: We work with physical therapists, so a lot of times

514
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: people will say, you know, that's like physical therapy, but

515
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: more entertaining.

516
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Speaker 2: It's fun.

517
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: It's to music, to speed driven. Yeah, runners love it. Yeah,

518
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: because of the stability. Yeah, it definitely keeps me humble.

519
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Speaker 2: I once went to an event and there were a

520
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Speaker 2: lot of men at the event doing bar and that

521
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: was just wonderful because you see these guys all the time,

522
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: you know, pushing sleds down turf and doing furpees and

523
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: box jumps and all the things, and you bring them

524
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: in front of a ballet bar, Yeah, you see something else.

525
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Speaker 1: Well. The men who come the most religious lead of

526
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: Bar three are usually athletes and they've discovered that it

527
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: helps them do what they love to do better. And

528
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: that's really what we're about. It's not about what happens

529
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Speaker 1: in the sixty minutes you're doing Bar three. It's really

530
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Speaker 1: about how that sixty minutes informs the rest of your

531
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Speaker 1: day and what you love to do. You start concepting

532
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: what you don't know will be called Bar three. Yet,

533
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: where does the name Bar three come from? I pretty

534
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: much knew right away I wanted to name this magical.

535
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: I feel like you just like it was like there

536
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: was a roadmap and it was in your head and

537
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: you just kind of started to write it all down.

538
00:28:59,160 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: That's what happens.

539
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I wanted to name both christ and I

540
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: wanted to name our studio three, but you can't trademark

541
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: that it's two generic. Then Studio three was our next pick,

542
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: and that was already trademark. I knew I wanted to

543
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: use the ballet bar, and I decided to call it

544
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Speaker 1: BAR three, and that that positioned me right in the barniche.

545
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: And I didn't ten years ago, Bar wasn't what it

546
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 1: is today, right, I didn't really realize, you know, that

547
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: I was going to be a part of this heritage

548
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of my challenges as a business

549
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: person because we are so different than a lot of

550
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: the other BAR programs. But it's also, you know, a

551
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: happy accident because it's been really fun to ride this wave,

552
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: this exciting wave of bar. It's become a thing now.

553
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: Oh you know, it wasn't ten years ago. Now it's

554
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: a category. People say bar they and people drop off

555
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: the three. Oh I got a bar? Which bar?

556
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: You know? Bar three?

557
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: So tell me about opening the first Bar three studio.

558
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: We opened in Portland, Oregon and the Pearl District, which

559
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: is a beautiful, beautiful area in Portland and that's where

560
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: you live now. And before we opened again, all this

561
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: magic happens. I feel like when you're in that flow state.

562
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Speaker 1: We rented a little house in a neighborhood called Irvington

563
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: in northeast Portland, and I walked down to the health

564
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: food store, which was wildness at the time, and I

565
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: was kind of thinking, gosh, I wanted to start classes.

566
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do them in our attic. But we had

567
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: this funky little house and was like I didn't have

568
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Speaker 1: any friends yet, you know. And I walked upstairs and

569
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Speaker 1: there was a studio that was built out for basically

570
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Speaker 1: bar classes. It had a ballet bar, all the props

571
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: I needed. What was it being used for? On community classes?

572
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: This woman was teaching calnetics senate, which was also inspired

573
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: by the Lottie Burke method. So I started teaching classes

574
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: there while I was building my first studio, and it

575
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: became kind of a like an underground kind of favorite.

576
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: And so the day we opened Bar three, I had

577
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Speaker 1: a full, full group, full class.

578
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: It was fun.

579
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: I love it's just like so I saw the studio

580
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: and then I opened Bar three.

581
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Speaker 2: It's a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course, there's no question, but I think

583
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: when you're doing something you left to do, the work

584
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: is so rewarding it doesn't feel hard. But I mean

585
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: we had all kinds of h back issues we had

586
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: to you know, at the time, we were just you know,

587
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: every penny counted and we're bleeding money. And at the

588
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: very last minute when we're about to open the studio,

589
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: we had this big h back thing and we had

590
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: to spend another ten thousand dollars to fix it, and you.

591
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: Know, almost broke us.

592
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Speaker 1: So you think about this bar studio, you open it,

593
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: it's a full class, which is outstanding. When did you

594
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: really feel like you had the workout kind of down

595
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: to what you wanted it to be. Did you feel

596
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 1: like that going into opening the studio to teaching your

597
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: first class, or did you kind of in a way

598
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: have a lean startup mentality where it was like, I

599
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: think I have the basics and this is going to

600
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: evolve with me. It's still evolving. So again, it's not

601
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: a method, it's an evolving, continuous flow of innovation. And yes,

602
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: I have one hundred and ten percent work. I was

603
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: so confident. I taught for twenty years and I believed

604
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: in myself and my ability to teach.

605
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 2: I'm a teacher.

606
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: I love teaching, and when I look back at the

607
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: teachers have inspired me the most in education, it's people

608
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: who believed in me and allowed me to shine and

609
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: they made sure I was seen and heard. And that's

610
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Speaker 1: what I focused on more than the methodology. I focused on.

611
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: Every single client who walks in this door is going

612
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: to know they are seen, they are heard, and they

613
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: are empowered to make every second, every minute, every hour

614
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: work for them and what they need. And that's my

615
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: job as a teacher is to teach you how to

616
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: move in a way that feels good in your body,

617
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: that challenges you, that pushes you, but also so you know,

618
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: inspires you to leave from within. And that I was

619
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: absolutely confident about. Every client who comes into that room

620
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: informs the experience just as much as the teacher does.

621
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Speaker 1: We set that intention every time, and our clients know it.

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Speaker 1: They're a part of the process, They're part of the class.

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Speaker 1: You start teaching classes at the beginning, how many classes

624
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: are you personally teaching a week? And then how long

625
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: until you start to train other people to teach the classes.

626
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: I taught nineteen classes a week, all of them basically

627
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: for I think maybe five or six weeks.

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Speaker 2: It was nuts.

629
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Speaker 1: And then I knew that I wanted to teach as

630
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Speaker 1: many classes as I could and literally touch my clients'

631
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: liides and bodies and get to know them in the

632
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: beginning and find people, attract people who I knew could

633
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: move me forward and who really got what I was

634
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: doing because it was so different than anything else out there.

635
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go hire yoga instructors or plates instructors.

636
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring people in and start fresh, and

637
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: so that's what I did. My first founding instructors had

638
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: never taught before, but they had definitely had experience in

639
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: dance and athleticism and anatomy. They had a real command

640
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: over the body. So it took a little while to

641
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: get that first group up and running, but once they

642
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: did it, just you know, it went from them there,

643
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: and those founding instructors ended up being some of the

644
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: leaders to this day of my company. So nineteen classes

645
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: is a lot. I teach us spin at a studio.

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00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: Actually I was there before I came here today, And

647
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: obviously you can tell because this is a podcast and

648
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: you are listening to my voice. It's rough man. Nineteen

649
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: classes is taxing, obviously, not just on the voice, but

650
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: on your body. And just this constant state of service,

651
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: which I think is really interested and being in service

652
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: to other people. I think that's a really beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an amazing quality. I think that we

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Speaker 1: should all live with some sort of aspect and mentality

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Speaker 1: of how important it is to be in service to

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Speaker 1: other people. But obviously, by bringing in other people, you

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Speaker 1: started to understand that this needed to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit bigger than you. What did it feel I get

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Speaker 1: first to kind of give up some of that control

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Speaker 1: back to my north Star balance. It's not balanced to

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Speaker 1: teach nineteen classes a week. It's not balanced to be

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Speaker 1: only in service to other. It's balanced to be in

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Speaker 1: service to yourself and then other. And that was missing.

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Speaker 1: And I knew that for an amount of time I

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Speaker 1: needed to do that, give completely generously right, and then

666
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Speaker 1: I also consciously knew I needed to take care of myself.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't hard to give up that control, and I

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Speaker 1: invited it in because one thing I was raised with

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Speaker 1: is a value around collective wisdom that I do not have.

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Speaker 1: All the answers is not the saving Lincoln method. My

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00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: success is going to be based on what other people

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Speaker 1: contribute to this class. And so those first instructors brought

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Speaker 1: in wisdom. Jenny Johnson, who continues to lead our company,

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Speaker 1: she was a chiropractor.

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Speaker 2: She was my chiropractor.

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Speaker 1: Actually she became one of our first instructors, for example,

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Speaker 1: and she brought in this amazing awareness of the spine

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Speaker 1: and the body and anatomy that you know contributed and

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Speaker 1: moved us forward.

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Speaker 2: What was one of the biggest lessons you learned up

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Speaker 2: front about opening a business that was truly your own

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Speaker 2: because you obviously you co founded this with your husband.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, opening a business of my own I think

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Speaker 1: one of my greatest lessons. I think this is true

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people I've learned who are gift

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Speaker 1: generously type of people who want to help people.

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Speaker 2: I ended up hiring people who needed me, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I had that pattern for a while where I

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Speaker 1: wanted to I want to help people.

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Speaker 2: I inherit, that's what I do. I want to help people.

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Speaker 1: And I also have unbridled optimism in people, and so

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Speaker 1: I had a tendency to hire people who I wanted

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Speaker 1: to help versus hiring people who could help me right,

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Speaker 1: hiring people who I really needed and I could lean

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Speaker 1: on and trust that that's okay, you know, to not

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Speaker 1: have the answers and to not always be the caregiver

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Speaker 1: or the one that helps people, but to find people

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Speaker 1: who can make me stronger and make me better. And

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Speaker 1: when you own your own company, you're kind of put

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Speaker 1: on a pedestal as the all knowing and constantly breaking

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Speaker 1: down that wall and being really humble and vulnerable that

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Speaker 1: way and saying I'm creating this, but I don't really

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Speaker 1: know everything.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I know this month.

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Speaker 1: Like a teeny bit a small lem I need you,

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Speaker 1: and I deserve people who are better than me. And

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Speaker 1: I think at the core that's that's been my work

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Speaker 1: is that I deserve the A player, right, and I

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Speaker 1: deserve to create a company that attracts the A player,

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Speaker 1: because I think that ultimately leads to what I call

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Speaker 1: workplace awesomeness when there's a lot of people that make

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Speaker 1: it happen.

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Speaker 2: Kind of people.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting back here with Stadie Lincoln, the founder of

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Speaker 1: Bar three, and so we're at the point where she's

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Speaker 1: running a successful bar studio in Portland, and it's about

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Speaker 1: how long until you decide, all right, we're going to

736
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Speaker 1: do more than one of these. Before I opened my

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Speaker 1: first studio, he knew where was the second one? The

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Speaker 1: second studio, Well, we decided to franchise, and our first

739
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Speaker 1: franchise partner was actually a studio in Manila in the Philippines,

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Speaker 1: which was not part of our plan. You didn't want

741
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Speaker 1: an international growth strategy. We had a Pacific Northwest plan

742
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Speaker 1: to open twenty four studios. That was our first plan.

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Speaker 1: We have I think six studios now in Manila and

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Speaker 1: they're all doing really well. Do more and more people

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Speaker 1: start to come to you about franchise, yeah, right away.

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Speaker 1: Our second right right thereafter was I think Vancouver, Washington,

747
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Speaker 1: which is just twenty minutes from Portland and Bend, Oregon,

748
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Speaker 1: which is three hours from Portland. Seattle was quickly after that,

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Speaker 1: and then we kind of went all over. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Chris and I had so much experience in multiun operations

751
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Speaker 1: and how to scale a company, and so we really

752
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Speaker 1: put that to work quickly. And that was one of

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Speaker 1: the things that motivated us is we had, you know,

754
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Speaker 1: unique wisdom in the industry, and so we wanted to

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Speaker 1: share that with other entrepreneurs. That's why we decided to franchise.

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Speaker 2: And it's so interesting.

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Speaker 1: So say I decide that I want to franchise a

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Speaker 1: Bar three location, how does that process even start? Usually

759
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Speaker 1: inside out? So you've had some experience with Bar three,

760
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Speaker 1: you genuinely love it and connect with it and see

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Speaker 1: yourself in the story. That's really important to us. You

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Speaker 1: have business background, and you know, you really have that

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Speaker 1: drive to have something that's your own, and you want

764
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Speaker 1: to be connected to a movement, something that's bigger than yourself.

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Speaker 1: Those are those are the main characteristics that work for us.

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Speaker 1: We have a tab on our website franchise with us

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Speaker 1: or grow with Us. I can't remember with the exactly

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Speaker 1: which is at this point you used to be growth

769
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Speaker 1: with us. I think it might be franchise, I forget

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Speaker 1: become part of the family. Become part of the family.

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Speaker 1: And it's truly we decided to franchise. We're basically growing

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Speaker 1: that way. I could have gone and raised capital, right,

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Speaker 1: and then you never did that. No, okay, So Chris

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Speaker 1: and I are majority owners. Mark Mastaff was our original

775
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: investor for the very first studio, so he was supportive

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Speaker 1: even when you two decided to leave twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, completely. You don't find that a lot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He believes in me, he always has and he knew,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was going to do something on my own.

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Speaker 1: You know, we both had that entrepreneurial spirit. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: we decided to basically grow franchising because it's growing with

782
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Speaker 1: someone who believes in us and who believes in sustainable

783
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: growth versus growing and selling right, growing to get to

784
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Speaker 1: hit that financial number. Right, This is growing to help

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Speaker 1: people in more communities.

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Speaker 2: That's our growth model. So now currently there are one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six bar three locations. Are you still

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Speaker 2: actively growing? Is that a goal of yours?

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Speaker 1: Do you have other goals that you would say, maybe

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Speaker 1: take a little bit more priority. At this point, we're

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Speaker 1: still growing with franchise partners, and you know, we are

792
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Speaker 1: in We've set up our business so that we can

793
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Speaker 1: grow slowly. We are not just a franchise company. I

794
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Speaker 1: also have online classes, so we stream online workouts and

795
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Speaker 1: people are actively participating in those in ninety eight countries. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's been an incredible business for us and an

797
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: amazing way to bring Bar three to people's homes and

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Speaker 1: their lives in a in a convenient, more affordable way,

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Speaker 1: you know, for people who can't go to a boutique

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Speaker 1: exercise studio and who frankly.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to.

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Speaker 1: We want they want to kind of work out their

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00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: their own on their own terms. So that's been a

804
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: great revenue model for us. And then we have our

805
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: owned studios, so we own six studios. That's a revenue stream.

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Speaker 1: We have retail that's a revenue stream. So I diversified

807
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Speaker 1: so that when I franchise with someone, I'm not motivated

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Speaker 1: to franchise just for a land grab and to grow big.

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Speaker 1: I'm franchising with someone because they believe in what we're

810
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Speaker 1: doing and they're going to make us better.

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Speaker 2: Random thought is there are three in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: I haven't found her or him yet anyone listening?

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Speaker 2: We wait, we wait, I would I want to be

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Speaker 2: there yesterday. Yeah. I love Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: I lived there for six years and we haven't found

816
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Speaker 1: the right partnership yet.

817
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: When we do, we will be there.

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Speaker 1: Same thing with Chicago, San Francisco, you know, some of

819
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Speaker 1: those those bigger markets. Yeah, you want to get it right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Well, anywhere I'm anywhere, I want to

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Speaker 1: get it right. So we take just as much time

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Speaker 1: figuring out, you know, in Arkansas or Alabama, who were

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Speaker 1: partnered with. But yeah, it just so happens that in

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Speaker 1: those those areas we haven't. We haven't found the partner yet,

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Speaker 1: but we will. It's coming. Yeah, it's coming. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: La needs us, I think so I was just there.

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Speaker 1: La needs us. We have a place there. Yeah, it'll happen.

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Speaker 1: You said something that I kind of want to touch

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Speaker 1: upon on the idea of at home workouts. I've seen

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Speaker 1: some of your online content before. How does it feel

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Speaker 1: to know that there are just people watching you at home?

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's got to be such an interesting thing.

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Speaker 1: It's so wonderful. Yeah, it's well, it's great when I

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Speaker 1: meet people who you know, I've been hosting retreats, and

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Speaker 1: so I'm about to host one and then outside of Bend,

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Speaker 1: Oregon on a ranch with one hundred and twenty people,

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Speaker 1: And we have a bunch of people coming that are

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Speaker 1: online subscribers only, and so to be able to react

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Speaker 1: and interact with them live is amazing. We have a

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Speaker 1: real connectivity online. We have comment boards and basically there's

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Speaker 1: a dedicated master trainer whoever teaches the class for the week,

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Speaker 1: who talks to the people all the time online. So

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Speaker 1: we have that kind of connectivity, but nothing beats being

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Speaker 1: in person and really talking to people about their experience.

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Speaker 1: And at retreats or master classes that I've taught where

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Speaker 1: people come, I find all kinds of things, including that

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Speaker 1: our online workouts are.

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Speaker 2: Part of their homeschooling For people who homeschool their kids,

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Speaker 2: how cool is that?

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00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, people who have overcome injury or how are going

851
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: through grief from losing a lost one or a divorce

852
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: or something that makes them not want to go out

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00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: in the world, you know, and yet being at home

854
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: is a place that they can be healthy and heal

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Speaker 1: and grow with me. Busy moms, new moms, men, way

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Speaker 1: more men do the classes at online because I think

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Speaker 1: there's such a mistake about studios, bar studios as being

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Speaker 1: a female thing, kind of girly, right, and we're really not.

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Speaker 1: We're about everybody, all genders or anybody, anybody. Yeah, now,

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Speaker 1: ten years later, celebrating the ten year anniversary, how.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel.

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Speaker 1: I am genuinely more excited today about Bar three than

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Speaker 1: I was the day I opened Bar three. I'm honored.

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Speaker 1: It's just amazing to sit in this position, and for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm really thinking about bigger picture stuff like social justice.

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Speaker 1: You know, I sit in this position of responsibility. I

867
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Speaker 1: have one hundred and twenty six studios with incredible partners

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Speaker 1: who run those studios, and incredible women and men who

869
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Speaker 1: come to those studios to be at home in their bodies,

870
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: to be able to stand up for themselves and what's

871
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: right for themselves. They do more than build muscle and

872
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: sweat in our classes. Our classes are basically a metaphor

873
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: for standing up for yourself or being empowered, for being

874
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: connected with your community. And those are the kinds of

875
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: philosophies and ideas that we're really focused on as a company.

876
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: My big, hairy, audacious goal is to be a part

877
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 1: of a world where every single woman is at home

878
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: in her body and ultimately empowered. I say women because

879
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a historical moment and time right now,

880
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: and we all have permission to say that now we

881
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: haven't been at home in our bodies, we haven't felt safe.

882
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: It's such an eye opener, you know. I feel I've

883
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: always felt so confident and just with all this stuff,

884
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: with the me Too movement and all this stuff that's

885
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: been coming out, I've had a reflection about that that,

886
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like I haven't even felt confident in

887
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: my own body, you know. And I grew up with

888
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: all women in a totally supportive environment and completely safe environment,

889
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, we can do something about that,

890
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: and we are doing something about that, and it feels

891
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: really really, really good and exciting. What's a piece of

892
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: advice that you'd offer to yourself before that first client

893
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: came through your studio door the first time.

894
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: Looking back on it right now.

895
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: I think I would I would teach her to meditate.

896
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: That younger version of myself I was mindful, but I

897
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: think that would have really served me, taking time to

898
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: see it and be still two times a day and

899
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: you just breathe, Yeah, for how long about Well, it

900
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: just depends. I don't have a lot of rules around it.

901
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm pretty intuitive about it, and I don't have I

902
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: don't follow a specific discipline. So between I would say

903
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: probably eight and twenty minutes. Twenty twenty is the sweet

904
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: spot for me. If I can get to twenty it's

905
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: usually that's when I know I'm really in the zone

906
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: because it flies and I look at the clock, I'm like, whoa,

907
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: I've been here for twenty minutes, you know, eight minutes

908
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: super doable. But even like right before this podcast, just

909
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: taking on my walk here, just taking you know, mindful

910
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: deep breaths. I learned something that I'd love to share

911
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: with you and everybody that when you sigh, when you

912
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: let down an XL you it's going to sound silly,

913
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: but when you go like that and you put your

914
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: hand on your heart like I'm doing, that, vibration literally

915
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: settles the mind of body and it brings you into

916
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: your body. It's like a quick quick way to like energize,

917
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: get in your body and be ready to give generously.

918
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: Hmmm, yeah, I think all sigh I'm ready to give generously.

919
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: Sign It really works. It works. I love I love.

920
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: It's like a quick hack into like, yeah, zen mode.

921
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be signing all day now. What would you say,

922
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: is one of your favorite failures from building bar three?

923
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: I love that favorite failure so many. I would say

924
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: my favorite failure is the one that gave me so

925
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: much empathy and motivation for helping high achievers get through injury.

926
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: I at one point when I was teaching a gazillion classes,

927
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: I was also training a superstar celebrity, and I had

928
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on me, and my body broke

929
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: and my mom said to me, Sadie, you are literally

930
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: embodying your company right now. It's too much, and it's true.

931
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: And I was literally on my hands and knees. My

932
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: low back just feeled me. It was the most for

933
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: any of you who are physical and you get an

934
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: injury and you get that physicality taken out of your

935
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: life right away, and your identity is attached to that,

936
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: and your happiness is attached to that.

937
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: It is the most humbling, demoralizing, frustrating feeling. And what

938
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: I learned from that experience is the power of adapting

939
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: moves and modifying and honoring injury and looking at injury

940
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: as a true gift and a true voice and true wisdom,

941
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 2: instead of pushing it away as shame, like when you're injured,

942
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: you're old, or you did something wrong, or you're not

943
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: strong enough, or you're not good enough. There's so much

944
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: shame attached to injury. For me, it was a great

945
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: lesson of power and body wisdom and honoring my truth

946
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: and my greatest failing. Truly, I can definitely relate with injury.

947
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: Last year I hurt my lower back and triggered some

948
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: arthritis in between my elfour and L five and there

949
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: was nothing to use the word humbling again more humbling

950
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: and having to really take a step back. You know,

951
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: we're both super active people. Take a step back. Not

952
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: work out every day, not even sometimes. I used to

953
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: go to yoga. I still go to yoga now that

954
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 2: I've recovered. I still go to yoga on what I

955
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: think classify are my active rest days. But for me,

956
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: even doing upward Dog or something you know, gentle and

957
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: simple that we view like that, it was a lot

958
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: for me and to honor that my body needed a

959
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: break and I needed to listen. That was so difficult.

960
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: It's also detaching from what exercise means and what achievement means.

961
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: I realized I was so attached to yoga. You know,

962
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: it was like my church, right six am, I did

963
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: my yoga practice, And it's not the.

964
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 2: Be all end all.

965
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: You know, there are so many other ways to be healthy,

966
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: And to this day I have to unbrainwasha wash myself

967
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: about that, Like I don't need to exercise in the

968
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: traditional sense every day.

969
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 2: Right, any day?

970
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, as long as we're moving and we're healthy, and

971
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 1: we're engaged, and we're at home in our bodies, then

972
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: it's okay. We are doing something. We've been told the

973
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: story from the fitness industry because it makes money that

974
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: if you do this, you are successful, If you do this,

975
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: you are healthy, and we all need to remember that

976
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: that's just not true. Talk to me a little bit

977
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: about what a typical day of wellness looks like for

978
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: you right now. I know obviously you said that you meditate,

979
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: but how does that all kind of jive for you?

980
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 2: Well?

981
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: First of all, wellness to me, wellness goes back to

982
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: how I define wellness goes back to how I also

983
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: define balances. Actually, wellness is about recognizing imbalances and working

984
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: towards a more balanced state. So a typical day of

985
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: wellness for me would be about recognizing, acknowledging imbalances in

986
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: my life, seeing them, not pushing them away, not glossing

987
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: them over, seeing them, recognizing them. Oh wow, today, I

988
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: only slept four hours last night. Like I'm tired. My

989
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: voice is a little like a shot. You know, I'm

990
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: recognizing that that's an imbalance, and I'm realizing today instead

991
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: of going shopping on in between podcasts, I'm going to

992
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: go you know, rest or meditate, you know, and work

993
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: towards a more balanced state so I can give generously

994
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: to my next interview.

995
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: You know, that's wellness.

996
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: Letting go of trying to go to it because there's

997
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: so many great group exercise classes and.

998
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: You're in the Mecca.

999
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, letting go of that, Like, that's not what I

1000
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: need today, you know, I need to go sit in

1001
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: Central Park or you know, lay in like fetal position.

1002
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: My brother's apartment with my blankets over my head.

1003
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: So that's it's recognizing it and acknowledging it and not

1004
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: glossing over it just because you just brought him up.

1005
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: I think it's so interesting to point out that your brother,

1006
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: Miguel is the founder of we Work, and we're currently

1007
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: sitting in a we work Great now.

1008
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,959
Speaker 2: Did you tell him that you were coming to one? Yeah?

1009
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm super duper proud of Miguel. So it's so interesting

1010
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 2: to think of like your upbringing and that you both

1011
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: have just been so wildly successful. It's crazy because we're

1012
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: poor Hippie Goods and our mom sorry mom, Yeah no,

1013
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: they're proud of it. They were decidedly poor, like they

1014
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 2: chose to before. Yeah, we're yeah, says something about hippi

1015
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 2: kid upbringing. You know, we're we're not afraid to try

1016
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: things and risk and be creative. I don't know what

1017
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: it is, but Miguel's truly phenomenal. I love him to pieces.

1018
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 2: And Kyle.

1019
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: Kyle's my other brother that's not talked about as much,

1020
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: and he was one of the founding team members for

1021
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: We Work and really helped create this whole thing. He's

1022
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: the baby of our family, the baby. He's the youngest,

1023
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: and he.

1024
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: Just had his baby, so we're all really excited. I

1025
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: can imagine. Yeah, well again, I can't sing enough praises

1026
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: about we Work. I'm in a we work probably for

1027
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: four days a week. It's amazing.

1028
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: It's also we work is also about collective wisdom, collaboration,

1029
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, not being the answer, but bringing people together

1030
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: for greatness. And it's interesting both of us, you know,

1031
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: we grew up that way and both of our businesses

1032
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: reflect that value. What do you think is next for

1033
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: you personally and professionally? Next for me, I think really

1034
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: working on our social mission as a company. I you know,

1035
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: our product mission is to teach remarkable classes. Our business

1036
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: mission is to have a sustainable model of growth versus

1037
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: just growing to be sold right, and my social mission

1038
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: is really about women being at home, safe and at

1039
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: home and their bodies all around the world and really

1040
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: figuring out what that means and figuring out how to

1041
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: activate this company around that. And the Bresada Ranch retreat

1042
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm bringing in one of my friends, Don Dapaani,

1043
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 1: who's a Hindu priest and really focuses training high performers

1044
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: on this idea of focusing on what matters and managing

1045
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: your energy every day on what matters. That's one step forward.

1046
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm finding teachers like that to help me figure out

1047
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: how are we going to do this as a company.

1048
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: Last question, ten years ago, you were a beginner. Everyone

1049
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: every day in some aspect of their life is a beginner. Yeah,

1050
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: what is one valuable piece of advice you would give

1051
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: to someone who's on the brink of starting something new.

1052
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: I love that you said everybody's a beginner. Every day

1053
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: is new. I think that would be my advice. My

1054
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: other advice is you know the answer, Like even though

1055
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: it's new, you know the answer, just you know, look

1056
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: inside and that tomorrow is going to be a new

1057
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: new and then the next day is going to be

1058
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: a new new. You know, there is never never a

1059
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: dull moment being an entrepreneur. That's people who are entrepreneurs

1060
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: are generally seekers. They want to grow, they want new,

1061
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: they want to be They have that student mentality and

1062
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: to just hold on and ride that wave because you know,

1063
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: it's pretty rewarding.

1064
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: Sadie, I'm so happy you could come in here today.

1065
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sitting down with me. It's

1066
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: my pleasure.

1067
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: Please take a moment and leave a quick review of

1068
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: Hurdle by clicking the link with the description to this episode.

1069
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: We all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to

1070
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: hear about yours. Reach out to me at Emily at

1071
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: hurdle dot us. Connect with the podcast on Instagram and

1072
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: Twitter at Hurdle Podcast and of course check us both

1073
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: out on social media, Sadie, how do they find you?

1074
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: How do they find Bar three all over social media?

1075
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: So Instagram it's just bar three and my Instagram, Sadie Lincoln,

1076
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: So pretty easy. And then our website's bar three dot com.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again, Sadie. You can find me on social

1078
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: at Emily Abodi. Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next

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Speaker 1: time