1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome in as Vertical Center. Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: you and Senator, It's nice to talk about a really 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: important issue tonight that many Americans have become much more 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: concerned about. That's flying. You fly a lot, I fly 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: a lot, and you have introduced new legislation that's going 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: to deal with what happened with that helicopter crash into 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: the airplane right there at Reagan. Your wife was flying 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: in that night. I remember that night. Well, in six 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: months to the day, you've introduced this. 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. You and I are sitting here. 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: It is Tuesday night, six months ago to the day, 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: on January twenty ninth, is when the horrific accident occurred 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: over Ronald Reagan National Airport. Sixty seven souls were killed 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: in that accident. And this week today, actually I introduced 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: legislation to dramatically improve air safety to protect the flying public. 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that, talk about the need 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: to avoid any accident like that going forward. 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I remember that night. 61 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: It was a night where we had that helicopter that 62 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: went right into that plane that was coming down at 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Reagan National and it killed so many people. It also, 64 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: I think, really shook a lot of travelers to their core. 65 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: And the question that was asked was like, how does 66 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: this even happen? How is this possible? And now there's 67 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: real legislation to keep our family safe. As a fly, 68 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: you fly a lot, your family flies a lot. It's 69 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: something that's on a lot of people's minds. 70 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: Well, this happened on January twenty ninth. It was the 71 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: ninth day of the Trump presidency. And actually the night 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: had happened, I was having dinner with Mike Waltz. Mike 73 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: Waltz was at the time President Trump's national security advisor. 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: The two of us were talking about the national security 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: threats of the country, having a great dinner, and then 76 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: at the very end of the dinner, we were wrapping 77 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: up and he got a text over his phone. He's like, 78 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: oh crap. He said, there was just a major crash 79 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: over Reagan Airport, And so Mike rushed off to the 80 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: situation room to deal with it. From the White House, 81 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: as I got up that night, it so happened. Heidie 82 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: was flying into DC and she was landing at Reagan, 83 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: and I will say, my body man came up to 84 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: me and Trent, and you know Trent is a great guy. Yeah, 85 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 2: Trent came up to me and he said, Heidie's okay, 86 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: but there was a plane crash at Reagan. I got 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: to say, Trent did a very good job starting with 88 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: Heidie's okay, because I get you know, when your wife's 89 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: in the air like that, if you reverse those statements 90 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: that that causes you to freak out. So I was 91 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: very grateful. Heidie's plane was scheduled to land about a 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: half hour after the crash, so they diverted her to 93 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: BWI Airport, which is, you know, about an hour away. 94 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: Heidie got home that night to our apartment. We normally 95 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: live in Houston, but she was coming up that night 96 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: to be with me. I got to tell you, I 97 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: just held her. I mean, you know, your wife is 98 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: on a plane. It could as easily been her plane 99 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: as the plane that crashed. And it was a plane, 100 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: an American Airlines plane that was flying from Wichita to 101 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: d C. As it was landing at DCA Reagan Airport. 102 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: An Army Blackhawk helicopter came across the landing path and 103 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: collided and there were three soldiers on the Army helicopter. 104 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: There were sixty four people, sixty one passengers and three 105 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: crew member on the plane, and in an instant they 106 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: were incinerated. It was a horrific accident, I will tell you. 107 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: In the wake of the accident, I went to the 108 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: NTSB site where they'd pulled all the wreckage out and 109 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: the wreckage, the damage. Here's the good news, I asked. 110 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: I said, look, did anyone drown because the plane in 111 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: the helicopter went down in the Potomac. And I suppose 112 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: the good news is they said nobody drowned. That They said, 113 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: the helicopter rotor struck the wing. The wing is filled 114 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: with jet fuel and it immediately exploded and it is 115 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: essentially incinerated everyone. So they died instantly, which I've got 116 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: to say, if you're going to die in a plane crash, 117 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: you'd rather die instantly than slowly and painfully. So I 118 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: suppose there's a blessing in that. But I will say, 119 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: standing at the NTSB site with the wreckage of the plane, 120 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: the wreckage of the helicopter and you see just charge 121 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: sheet seats, you see just pieces of the plane and helicopter, 122 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: and you also saw you know, children's backpacks and toys 123 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: and luggage and and all of the all of the 124 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: wreckage of sixty seven people who died instantly, and it 125 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: was horrific. It was show and look what was frustrating 126 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: is it should not have happened. It was avoidable. And 127 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: so in the six months that have followed, I've shared 128 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: multiple hearings. I've had multiple roundtable discussions with the NTSB, 129 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: the National Traffic Safety Board, with the FAA, with the 130 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: Department Transportation to say what went wrong and there are 131 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: multiple pieces of what went wrong that that should never 132 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: have happened. One of the things that went wrong is 133 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: the Army helicopter did not have functioning adsb out. Now 134 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: what does that mean? Adsb out An adsb IN is 135 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: advanced technology to locate where a plane is, where a 136 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: helicopter is, and adsb out broadcast to everyone so you 137 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: can get it precise. The air traffic controllers can get 138 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: a precise image, and other aircraft can get a precise 139 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: image of exactly where. 140 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 4: That aircraft is. 141 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: Adsb IN is the ability to receive the signals from 142 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: all the other aircrafts. So ideally you need both. You 143 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: need adsb out so you're broadcasting the whole world, and 144 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: you need ADSB in where you can see the images 145 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: of the other aircraft. Now, for twenty years twenty the NTSB, 146 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: the National Traffic Safety Board, has been recommending that every 147 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 2: aircraft have ADSBN and adsb out. That is not the law, 148 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: and the Army Blackhawk helicopter did not have adsb OUT 149 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: that was functioning that night, so that meant the American 150 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: Airlines plane could not see it until the two collided 151 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: and everyone died. This week I introduced legislation. I called 152 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: it the Roador Act, and it mandates that every aircraft, 153 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: a jet, a helicopter, or any other aircraft that is 154 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: in commercial airspace, that is in the airspace where planes 155 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: are flying, where the flying public is must have both 156 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: adsb out and ADSB in. I think this is common 157 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: sense legislation. I think we're going to get it passed, 158 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: and I think when we get it passed, it is 159 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: going to make the flying public significantly safer. 160 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: Why did it take so long? I mean, I know 161 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: there was a lot of people that said, well, it 162 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: was just a cost issue, and it was a cost 163 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: add on to the price of a plane. It was 164 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: cost out onto small planes and different things, and that 165 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: people were frustrated. They're like, this is another one of 166 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: those regulations. Is it was as simple as that, and 167 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: that's the reason why it was always basically not made 168 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: a all. 169 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: So they're different pieces of it. The FAA required adsb 170 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: out so it required aircraft to broadcast their location so 171 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: the air traffic controllers could get it and other aircraft 172 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: that had ADSBN could get it. However, there was an 173 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: MoU a memoranda of understanding with the army that exempted 174 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: a lot of army flights. This was a training flight. 175 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: This was not a vital national security flight. This was 176 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: not like they were transporting nuclear secrets. This was a 177 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: training flight. But they did not have functioning adsb out 178 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: on in a way that anyone could see. I think 179 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: that exemption makes no sense, and so part of the 180 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: Rotor Act is ending that exemption and saying, look, if 181 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: you're flying commercial airspace, you need to have adsb out on. 182 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: That was one component. The second component is adsb in, 183 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: which is the ability to see the other signals. Now 184 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: it varies many Many large airline flights typically have adsb in, 185 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: but a lot of other flights do not. And the impediment, 186 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: as you noted, it was cost that twenty years ago, 187 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: it was fairly expensive to put this on. It's not 188 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: that expensive anymore. And one of the things I've done 189 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: over the last six months is that I've met with 190 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: a lot of the stakeholders. I've met with the airlines, 191 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: I've met with general Aviation, I've met with a lot 192 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: of the folks that are flying, and you can actually 193 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: get adsb in with an eyepad and fairly inexpensive technology. 194 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: So it's not you're not talking like one hundred thousand 195 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: dollars upgrade on a plane. You're talking for relatively low cost, 196 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: maybe a couple hundred or couple thousand dollars. You can 197 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: have an iPad and the technology to have ADSPN, so 198 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: it doesn't cost a lot, but it makes the flying 199 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: public a lot safer. And I want you to listen 200 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 2: right now. I want you to listen first of all, 201 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: to what I had said about the roator Act, and 202 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: that I want you to listen to Secretary Duffy, the 203 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: Transportation Secretary so start with what I said at the 204 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: press conference today. 205 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: Well, good morning. 206 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: Today is an auspicious day for aviation safety, a day marked, 207 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: I hope, by a revived spirit of hope and a 208 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: shared determination act in the face of an unforgettable tragedy. 209 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: American skies must be as safe as possible, and our 210 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: duty as lawmakers is to ensure that they are. I 211 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: would like to start by thanking the individuals who are 212 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: joining me for the introduction of the Rotorcraft Operations Transparency 213 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: and Oversight Reform or the rot Act. Secretary Duffy, Chairwoman Hammandy, 214 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: Tim and Sherry, Lily, Doug Lane, and my colleagues have 215 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: all worked hard to make the American skies safer. Tim, Sherry, Doug, 216 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: thank you for your courage and your advocacy. Your presence 217 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: reminds us of what is at stake. You've turned your 218 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: grief into purpose. We are here today because of your 219 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: efforts and the memory of Tim and Sherry, your son, Doug, 220 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: your son, Doug, your wife and son, and all of 221 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 2: the loved ones that were lost. 222 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: Over the Potomac. 223 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: The Rotor Act represents a common sense step forward in 224 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: aviation safety reform. Most important parts of this bill is 225 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: the requirement that all aircraft, military and civilian use both 226 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: ADSB OUT and ADSB in. 227 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 4: ADSB is critical for aviation safety. 228 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: This technology allows aircraft to broadcast their positions and to 229 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: receive positions of others in real time, faster than other 230 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: technology in use today. It gives pilots and air traffic 231 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: control a clear view of what is happening in the skies. 232 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: The NTSB first recommended ADSB in nearly twenty years ago. 233 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: We are going to make that happen this year. Make 234 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: no mistake, there cannot be a double standard in aviation safety. 235 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: We should not tolerate special exceptions for military training flights 236 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: operating in congested airspace. No matter the circumstances, any aircraft 237 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: flying near commercial traffic must fully adhere to safety standards. 238 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: Given the communications breakdown that led to the accident, it 239 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: is also important to address helicopter routes in congested commercial airspace. 240 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: We cannot have commercial airplanes and helicopters on a collision 241 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: course ever. Again, this bill is based on two core principles, 242 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: technological transparency. 243 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: And institutional responsibility. 244 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,359 Speaker 2: While American skies are among the safest globally, this safety 245 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: is not always assured. 246 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 4: I want to be clear. The Senate will lead this effort. 247 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: We will not wait for another accident to happen before 248 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: we act decisively. 249 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 4: To protect the American skies. 250 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: We have made it abundantly clear that when American lives 251 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: are at risk, excuses are not acceptable. However, this is 252 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: about more than policy. 253 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 4: It's about people. 254 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: The family standing here. They didn't ask to be a 255 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: part of the story. However they stand with the courage 256 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: to ensure that it has a better ending for others. 257 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: This is the kind of legacy we should all aspire 258 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: to build. Thank you, and I now recognize the Secretary 259 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: of Transportation Sean Duffy to give his remarks. 260 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: Sean, you know that the night that this plane crash 261 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: happened was the night he was actually sworn in, and 262 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: that was the first day on the job for him. 263 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: First I know the job. Yeah, I mean that evening. 264 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: I remember seeing his family heading into where his office 265 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: was going to be and then apparently he's there and 266 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: then immediately has to deal with this, and obviously that 267 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: impact him in a major way. You know him well, 268 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: I know Sean, well. I can't imagine your first time 269 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: in the job this is what you were dealing with, 270 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: this type of tragedy, and it seems to be a 271 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: realis point for him. 272 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: Sewn is a really good man. He's become a good friend. 273 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: He's doing a great job as President Trump's Secretary of Transportation. 274 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: But this was baptism by fire. He had not been 275 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: on the job twenty four hours when this accident occurred, 276 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: and he doped right in the middle of it. And 277 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: he's been dealing with the aftermath. And I want you 278 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: to listen to him now at the press conference today 279 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: about our legislation. Here's Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy. 280 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: This is not partisan. Safety is not partisan. It is 281 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: Democrats and Republicans, House, Senate, dot FAA, the President's administration, 282 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: all of us want to make sure we're safe and 283 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: so Center, I commend you for this bold effort and 284 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: rallying the forces in this body to make sure we 285 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: lead and make sure our s guys continue to be 286 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 3: the safest in the world. And this is one giant leap. 287 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: This is going to help make that happen, and I 288 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: look forward to working with you and your colleagues to 289 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: advance this cause. So thank you for for driving again 290 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: twenty two years ago, the NTSP recommended this. By the way, 291 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: sometimes people get concerned about cost, and I don't think 292 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 3: we should be concerned about costs when it comes to safety. 293 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: But I was talking to the administrator of the FAA. 294 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: The cost to deploy this technology is not that great 295 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: for commercial aircraft or for the military. We can drive 296 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: safety way higher and also at a very affordable cost. 297 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: That's the benefit of the advancement of technology over the 298 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 3: course of the last twenty two years. And so this 299 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: is doable. And I think the American people expect this 300 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: from this body, this administration to keep them safe. 301 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you wrap this up and you talk 302 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: about the family members that we're there for this. They 303 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: want to make sure this trategy never ever happens to 304 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: another family again, that seems to be clear, Sean. So 305 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: the big question becomes, is this going to be a 306 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: bipartisan thinking can you get it done? So? 307 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: I believe we will. And listen, they're sixty seven families 308 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: who lost a loved one that night, and those families 309 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: are grieving that they're in agony, and yet they're using 310 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: their agony to be advocates, and they're trying to use 311 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: that horrific tragedy to change the law to protect the 312 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: flying public so that there's not another family, so it's 313 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: not your family or my family that sometime in the 314 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: future loses a loved one on an air flight. And 315 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: I want you to listen right now to Tim Lily. 316 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: Tim is the father of the American Eagle co pilot 317 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: Sam Lily, and he was flying the American plane that 318 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: crashed in to the black Hawk helicopter. And actually Tim 319 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: himself was a black Hawk pilot, so he had flown 320 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: those exact roots right along Reagan Airport, so we had 321 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: a lot of experience with it, and yet tragically he 322 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: and his wife lost their son that night. Give a 323 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: listen to Tim Lily. 324 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 5: This is not gonna be Sam's legacy to die in 325 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 5: Vain sixty seven. Really great people lost their lives that night, 326 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 5: and there's no reason for that. What we have here 327 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 5: is legislation, if it's past, is going to close some 328 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 5: very important safety loopholes so that this never has to 329 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 5: happen again. 330 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: It's simple, right, We're going to close these loopholes. 331 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and look to see the families standing together. 332 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: So I actually this evening, I had drinks with the 333 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: Secretary of the Army. And the Secretary of the Army 334 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: met today with the families of those whose lives were lost, 335 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: and he said it was a rough meeting. Look there, 336 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: they're pissed off. If your if your family was killed 337 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: that night, you'd be pissed off. You'd be pissed off 338 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: at the Army flight that crashed into the plane. You'd 339 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: be angry, you'd be saying what to change, and it 340 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: was apparently. Look, it was not an easy meeting. And 341 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: I respect the Secretary for going and listening and hearing 342 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: their pain. I respect the families for channeling that pain 343 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: into something productive. 344 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 4: It's easy to just if you lose. 345 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: A loved one, to mourn, to get angry, to be 346 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: angry at God, to be angry at the world. I mean, 347 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: that's a perfectly natural reaction. And yet I really admire 348 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 2: these families that they are. They feeling those sentiments, of course, 349 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: but they've made the conscious decision I'm going to channel 350 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: that anger into trying to make a difference and change 351 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: the laws. Now, now you asked, is this going to happen? 352 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 2: It needs to be bipartisan. Now, the bill I introduced 353 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: today is not bipartisan. No Democrats had joined it, and 354 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: I will say the Democrats, they filed their own legislation 355 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: that is partisan legislation that they decided they wanted to 356 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: tee off on President Trump and doze and have a 357 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: bunch of elements in the bill that have nothing to 358 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: do with safety but have everything to do with scoring 359 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: partisans and points. I think that's not very productive. This 360 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: bill is designed to be bipartisan, and it is one 361 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: of the advantages of chairing the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, 362 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 2: and Transportation. I'm going to see up this bill. We 363 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: are going to mark up this spill. Every member of 364 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: the Commerce Committee is going to vote on this bill. 365 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: I think we're going to get overwhelming bipartisan support for 366 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: this bill. It needs to be bipartisan. There's nothing in 367 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: this bill that from a Republican side, is partisan. There's 368 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: nothing that I put that is a crazy right wing priority. 369 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: This is designed to keep the flying public safer. This 370 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: is a common sense provision. So I believe we will 371 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: get bipartisan support. I believe it will be passed into law, 372 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: and my prediction, Ben this will be signed into law 373 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 2: this year and it will make everyone who flies safer. 374 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: I want to move to the other topic that we 375 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, and that deals with the FBI right now 376 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: and new intel that's coming out, and I got to 377 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: say a lot of people are going to be shocked 378 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: by it. I'm not surprised at all by this. And 379 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: I want to get your take on now what we're 380 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: learning about the FBI with the Russia Russia Russia hoax 381 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: and the controversial Trump Russia actions predicted with alarming accuracy 382 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: by foreign actors. I mean, you look at this coming 383 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: out now, and it's just a joke. How incredible this 384 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: whole I call it a play. It was a movie. 385 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: It's a script, and everybody was playing on the script 386 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: that they knew was a lie. 387 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: That's right. But I want to take a minute and 388 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: sort of pull the curtain back for our listeners. So 389 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: we do this podcast, and we do this podcast sometimes 390 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: late at night, so it is twelve to fifty five am. 391 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: So look, men is half asleep. To be honest, he's 392 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: been asleep for two hours and we woke him to 393 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: do this. So the headline of this story says that 394 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 2: it was predicted with alarming specificity. Yes, that's true, And 395 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 2: I want sheld to Doe. We recorded this, and this 396 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: is one of the advantages doing a podcast. When you 397 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: record it and screw it up, you can just stop 398 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: and rewind and do it again. We recorded it, and 399 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: twice Benjamin was unable to say the words specificity. 400 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: He tried a tough one specific I can't say it now, see. 401 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: And I will confess I kept making it harder because 402 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: I kept saying fescipicity and. 403 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: I can say that word, no problem, right, That one's easy. 404 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: So finally, after after twice crashing and burning on saying specificity, 405 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: he just said with alarming accuracy. By the way, the 406 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: quote is not accuracy, it's specificity. 407 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: But I didn't say quote unquote. See, I covered myself there. 408 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: You didn't say the word quote. But I just wanted 409 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: our listeners to know that that that like the specificity. 410 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: With real at one am, that is accurate, not one am. 411 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: It's twelve fifty seven. You got three minutes till one am. 412 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: All right, so let's cover the under But but this 413 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: is the important stuff to understand. Look, these these are 414 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: real human beings. I'm in my DC apartment, you're in 415 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: a hotel room. I think, is that right now? 416 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in a house in Pinehurst, North Carolina. 417 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: So that's where the World Championships is. 418 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: Look that that that that's pretty fancy and sheishi And 419 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: you've got to be up at like six thirty is 420 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: tea time? 421 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: Is that right? 422 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: It's it's a six eighteen or something absurd. 423 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: Six eighteen all right, Benjamin. While you're at tea time, 424 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: I will be fast asleep. 425 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: I believe you. I believe, and you'll be dreaming about 426 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: the alarming specifificity the word I can you still can't 427 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: say it. Come on specificity, Just say it once specificity. 428 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: There we go, there we go. 429 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: Look at that. By the way, you know what I 430 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: did Monday on the on the flight to DC. 431 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: Wait, say that again? 432 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: Do you know what I did Monday in the flight 433 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: to DC? 434 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: What did you do? 435 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: I watched Happy Gilmore two have you? 436 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: It's so good? It is. I love when they don't 437 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: screw when they don't screw up a sequel like Top 438 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: Gun Maverick. They killed it right, Happy Gilmore. It's been 439 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: not happy. 440 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: Maybe better than Happy Gilmore, like you know, a really. 441 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Good and and by the way, did you see it coming? 442 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: Because I did not whin hold on spoiler word if 443 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: you haven't been watched it yet, turned down for five seconds. 444 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: When that when he killed his wife with the golf ball? 445 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: Did I did not see that coming? Did you? 446 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: I did not see that coming either. I. I will say, 447 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: by the way, as a complete aside, I've gotten to 448 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: know Adam Sandler's producer. You know, he's a big hoops player. 449 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I'm told that Sandler. I've invited 450 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: him come play hoops with with me and he said yes, 451 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: so hadn't happened yet. But I'm actually really psyched because 452 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: Sandler and I are almost exactly the same age, and 453 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: he's a serious ballplayer. And as you know, I play 454 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 2: hoops twice a week. 455 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: Do I say, count me in for that game. I'd 456 00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: like to be there for that game. 457 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: Okay, don't injure Adam Sandler like he is a national 458 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: comedic treasure. And I will say, I played hoops with you. 459 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: The last time I played hoops with you broke your finger. 460 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: You're a large I'm not worried about him, worried about me. 461 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: And you throw your body around pretty physically, which I admire. 462 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: Like I'm like, screw it. If you can't take the heat, 463 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: get out of the kitchen. But I'm just saying, don't 464 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: injure Adam Sandler. 465 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: There you go. That'd be one heck of a headline, right, all. 466 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: Right, let's get back. We actually had a story to do, 467 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: but I just had to I had to call you 468 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: out because you like magically edited out. You're screwing up 469 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: the word and yeah, so I just had to like 470 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: bring our listeners in and say, you know, sometimes the 471 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: magic of podcast is not exactly what you think. 472 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, you know, I'm ready go for it. 473 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: I'm ready, good, go ahead, say what you're gonna say. 474 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: No, no, I was gonna say. So this is the 475 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: part that laugh when you when you do radio like 476 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: I did three three hours a day. My producer Diaz, 477 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: who does this show as well, when that would happen. 478 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: The worst part is he's just laughing at me through 479 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: the glass on the other side of the wall because 480 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: it's live and there's nothing you can do to fix it, 481 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: and so he just laughs in my face. So now 482 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: this is like my weird revenge because for how many 483 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: years we worked here Diez twelve, thirteen, fourteen, I don't 484 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: even know how many it is. He just used to 485 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: just laugh at me, and now he actually has to 486 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: go back and fix it. So I'm like, the joke's 487 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: on you, buddy, the joke's on you. So yeah, when 488 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: it's live, there's nothing you can do about it. So 489 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: with all that specificity, the word I can't say is 490 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: still the night for some reason. Let's get back to 491 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: the event. 492 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: I still reported on this story with alarming fesipicity. And 493 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: let me read from the Fox News story quote. US 494 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 2: intelligence has credible foreign sources indicating that the FBI would 495 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: play a role in spreading the salacious Trump Russia collusion 496 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: narrative before the bureau ever launched it's controversial crossfire Hurricane probe, 497 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: sources familiar with the intel told Fox News Digital see 498 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: I director John Ratcliffe is expected to decline classify the 499 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: underlying intelligence, including a classified annex related to former Special 500 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: Counsel John Durham's investigation into the origins of the Trump 501 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: Russia probe. A source familiar with the contents of the 502 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: classified annex told Fox News Digital that while it may 503 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 2: not have been exactly clear in the moment what the 504 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 2: intelligent collection meant, with the benefit of hindsight, it predicted 505 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: the FBI's move with alarming specificity, and it goes on to. 506 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: Say, there's your quote, there you go quote. 507 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: Ultimately, the release of the classified annex will lend more 508 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: credibility to the assertion that there was a coordinated plan 509 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: inside the US government to help the Clinton campaign stir 510 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: up controversy connecting Trump to Russia. The source who was 511 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: granted anonymity to discussed the sense of intelligence matters that 512 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: have not yet been made public, told Fox News Digital, quote, 513 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: mere days after this intelligence was collected, the FBI launched 514 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: Crossfire Hurricane. The source said, quote, it is really hard 515 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: to see how Brennan, Clapper and Comy are going to 516 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: be able to explain this away. 517 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: You put that in perspective, and I think it's fair 518 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: to say at this point, everything we were hearing during 519 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: the back of the day on this it was all 520 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: just straight up government propaganda and the media was one 521 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: hundred percent in on it. 522 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: Well, it was not just government propaganda. It was driven 523 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: by the Hillary Clinton campaign. It was opposition research that 524 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: they paid for and then they gave to the Obama 525 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: administration to launder it. They laundered it through the FBI, 526 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: They laundered it through the Department of Justice, and in 527 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: it was the federal government attacking Donald Trump because they 528 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: did not want Donald Donald Trump to be president. And 529 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: the degree to which the government was complicit in partisan politics, 530 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: but not just partisan politics, partisan politics. That was false. 531 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: That was a lie. This was made up. The Russia 532 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: hoax was a hoax. It was concocted through the Hillary 533 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: Clinton campaign. It was laundered through the FBI and the 534 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: Department of Justice, and it was a lie. That was 535 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: a political attack job. And I want to commend John Ratcliffe, 536 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: the head of the CIA, a good friend of mine, 537 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 2: for making this public, for drawing accountability and truth to 538 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: what occurred. 539 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: What do you think is going to come from this 540 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: because there's so many I think just gruntled and frustrated 541 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: Americans that hear those things and like, all right, we're 542 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: now getting more and more confirmation this happened. Will there 543 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: be any real accountability? And does this move us closer 544 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: to that? So? 545 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: I hope so that there needs to be accountability. And 546 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: I will say, you have Telsey Gabbard who released her 547 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: bombshell information about the degree of the complicity of the administration, 548 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: and if you didn't hear our podcast last week on this. 549 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: You should listen to the podcast on Tulsi Gabbert's bombshell information. 550 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: I hope there is accountability I call on on the 551 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: Department of Justice. I also had when I was having 552 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: drinks with the Army Secretary, I also had drinks with 553 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: the Deputy Attorney General of the United States, and so 554 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: I was urging DOJ follow the facts and prosecute anyone 555 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: who is complicit. There are challenges because some of the 556 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: people who were involved in this, their criminal conduct was 557 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: before the statute of limitations expired, and so it is 558 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: harder to prosecute someone who committed criminal conduct after the 559 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 2: statute limitations has expired. Andrew McCabe, who was the deputy 560 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: director of the FBI, he testified before Congress. He testified falsely, 561 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: and the statute of limitations has not yet expired on 562 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: his testimony. So if I were to predict the single 563 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: most likely person in the Obama administration of face prosecution, 564 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: it would be Andrew mc because there's still a window 565 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: where he lied to Congress and it's within the statute limitations. 566 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: Really incredible. 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