WEBVTT - Katie Plus One Has a Full House: Kelly Rizzo with John Stamos

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, I'm Katie Couric and this is next Question.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing something a little bit different this week, something

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to try throughout this season of the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is to do a Katie plus one episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so lucky. I know so many great people.

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<v Speaker 1>They're interesting, they're fun to talk to, they're special to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, wouldn't it be fun to invite people

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<v Speaker 1>to join me and be my little partner in crime

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. So we're doing it today with my

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<v Speaker 1>friend Kelly Rizzo and Hi Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Katie.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so honored to be a or plus one and

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<v Speaker 3>be your partner in crime. And for the first time

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<v Speaker 3>me being your partner in crime doesn't involve cocktails or cooking.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true. That's true, just talk.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought maybe we could tell everyone listening Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>how we know each other and we actually haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>friends for all that long. I mean, you're a new friend,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is so important and that's something I

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<v Speaker 1>love to do. You know that Girl Scout song make

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<v Speaker 1>New Friends? The kiel one is silver and the uh

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<v Speaker 1>now it's around actually, but we're not going to subject

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners to that.

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<v Speaker 3>It has been a little over a year and a

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<v Speaker 3>half that we've been friends. We met right after my

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<v Speaker 3>husband Bob passed away, because you had reached out through

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<v Speaker 3>a mutual friend, because you had gone through that same

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<v Speaker 3>loss about twenty something years earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty four years early, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You were about the same age that I was when

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<v Speaker 3>this happened, so you know what it feels like to

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<v Speaker 3>have gone through a loss at that time, and you

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<v Speaker 3>reached out, just kind of offering a friendly ear and

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<v Speaker 3>a friendly hand, and you're like, I'm here if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk, And of course I took her up

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<v Speaker 3>on that head.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember thinking when I was reading about what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to Bob, who I always really liked. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a date with him once, as you know, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Really liked him.

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<v Speaker 1>I found him so cute and funny and amusing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did think we shared a pretty nice kiss in

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<v Speaker 1>the foyer of my apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>But he always thought you were lovely.

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<v Speaker 4>What can I say?

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<v Speaker 2>He was a big fan.

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<v Speaker 4>He adored you, well, not enough to call me again, but.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, that's okay, because it all worked out. It

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<v Speaker 1>all worked out. He found the love of his life

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Oh, okay, And I remember thinking, gosh, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember those strange, surreal days following Jay's death. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I know a little bit what Kelly's feeling right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to say, hey, if you need me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here. We had dinner and then we've just stayed

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<v Speaker 1>in touch because I've also been very excited about your

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<v Speaker 1>career and what's ahead for you and tried to tried

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<v Speaker 1>to give you some advice in that department.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just thrilled.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no better mentor to have than you well, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've been so grateful a for your friendship, B for

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<v Speaker 3>your guidance on the personal level, but then see for

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<v Speaker 3>your guidance and mentorship on the career side of things.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm just I mean, when Katie Kurk calls you

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<v Speaker 3>and says, hey, do you want to do an interview

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<v Speaker 3>with me, you say yes, And especially when it's such

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<v Speaker 3>a dear friend of mine as well, which I'm excited about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the reasons I thought this would be

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<v Speaker 1>very good chemistry. And it was serendipitous that my guest

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<v Speaker 1>today is someone who you know well. I always say

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<v Speaker 1>when people say that instead of who for a person.

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<v Speaker 1>People make that mistake a lot, by the way, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is John Stamos, Katie.

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<v Speaker 5>If you and I went out instead of you and Bob,

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<v Speaker 5>we'd probably still be dating.

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<v Speaker 4>I just, oh, quit it some more, John, quit it

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<v Speaker 4>some more.

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<v Speaker 5>Out of me Cooier Saggitt. He could have started with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you didn't ask John, and I think I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you were available at the time.

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<v Speaker 5>Did Bob ask you out?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>They were out on a date. He asked her out.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't that funny?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I remember, and we talked about it. I think

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<v Speaker 5>he was intimidated by you.

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<v Speaker 4>Please.

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<v Speaker 5>He was not really good. I used to have to

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<v Speaker 5>to see he or know him, like I would tell

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<v Speaker 5>him what the text and what to say, what to

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<v Speaker 5>do on these dates, and I, god, I wish maybe

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<v Speaker 5>I should have gone back to my text and see

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<v Speaker 5>because I feel like I was. I was texting him,

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<v Speaker 5>don't blow out X smarter on Katie. She's a very

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<v Speaker 5>intelligent woman. She's not just beautiful. Be careful, Bob, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know and yeah, and you guys kissed she.

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<v Speaker 4>Did, and as Kelly knows, he was a good kisser.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I know sheosed him and you know, you guys

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<v Speaker 6>had a some cuddles that you've you've cuddled on camera

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<v Speaker 6>and off probably, and you guys joke, you even joke

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<v Speaker 6>in your book that you've shared a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bed with him on multiple occasions.

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<v Speaker 5>We were like old married couple. We didn't have sex,

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<v Speaker 5>and we argued about that. That's funny, John, that is well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know I learned from Bob. Thank you for having

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<v Speaker 5>me on this and what a great idea. But isn't

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<v Speaker 5>it called Katie plus one? Like don't you always have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say the name of the podcast is next question? And

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<v Speaker 1>some conversations, honestly, John, lend themselves to sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>single person doing an interview, and some are much better

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<v Speaker 1>for when there's a connection or someone is passionate about

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<v Speaker 1>a topic. So this is really an experiment, and Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>is my first person to do this with. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was going to be in La visiting my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter and I know you both live in La, I thought, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this will be a great opportunity because I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about your book and your life. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know what a big deal this is, John, because

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a memoir that came out gosh, now about

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe it, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a very stressful time because you do open up

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<v Speaker 1>your heart and kind of spell your guts on the page,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's scary, right.

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<v Speaker 5>It was the last thing on my mind. I never

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<v Speaker 5>thought about writing a book. It wasn't a goal of mine.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't think I could do it. Certainly, in my

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<v Speaker 5>juvenile thinking, I thought, well, all people would care about

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<v Speaker 5>is you know, talking about who I slept with. And

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to say that because it's not that

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<v Speaker 5>many anyway, but you know, so I just I'm never

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<v Speaker 5>going to write a book, and I'd never found my

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<v Speaker 5>I just didn't think it was something that I would

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<v Speaker 5>ever do. And then you know, I became a father

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<v Speaker 5>and that kind of you know, maybe you know, people

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<v Speaker 5>were asking that I was now don't know. Then you know,

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<v Speaker 5>then Bob died and I sat down to write that

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<v Speaker 5>obituary type thing in the La Times, and I just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of just poured out of me. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>the agents saw that and they said, oh, hey, you

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<v Speaker 5>should write a book. I'm like, now, yes, it was

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<v Speaker 5>very good writing in that, and I still said no

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<v Speaker 5>for a long time, and I just couldn't figure out

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't want to. I didn't think I and I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't know how. I didn't know where to start. And

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<v Speaker 5>then I remembered my mom's letters that she wrote me,

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<v Speaker 5>and she wrote these beautiful notes that we've kept over

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<v Speaker 5>the years, and I kind of put them together. I say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>this is a good starting point. But then I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to write a love letter to all the people that

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<v Speaker 5>have been so beautiful in my life, certainly Bob. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>Bob is a through line through the whole, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I start with I decided to write I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>where you started in your book, but I started the

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<v Speaker 5>two hardest things that I could write about. One was

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<v Speaker 5>this horrific day I was going to meet Bob at

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<v Speaker 5>the palm and I got a dui and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it was the lowest point in my life. And my

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<v Speaker 5>five stages of grief then were you know, sex and

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<v Speaker 5>more booze, and it was terrible. And then this second

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<v Speaker 5>chapter that I wrote was the final one, the day

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<v Speaker 5>I found out that Bob died, and I sort of

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<v Speaker 5>go through it pretty meticulously, right Kelly, and and my

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<v Speaker 5>five stages of brief there were of therapy and family

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<v Speaker 5>and health, and then I just had to feel in

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<v Speaker 5>the rest of it. But Bob was certainly I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if I don't know he was interesting. I was

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<v Speaker 5>just thinking, I don't know if I would have wrote this,

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<v Speaker 5>because a lot of times when I was writing about

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<v Speaker 5>Bob was like, ooh, he if he was a lie?

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<v Speaker 5>Would he? I don't think I would have written this

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<v Speaker 5>book if if he was still around.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I mean clearly, I think a life event like

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<v Speaker 1>that has such a profound impact and reminds you of

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<v Speaker 1>your mortality.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, you know you lost your husband. When is that?

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<v Speaker 1>It was in nineteen ninety eight, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So it has been dush twenty five years now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And what.

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<v Speaker 5>Does that feel like? Is it like the more time

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<v Speaker 5>that goes by, the less you feel it. And that

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<v Speaker 5>feels shitty.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, right, it does actually, But I mean Kelly and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a long conversation about that for her podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I always think if something were to

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<v Speaker 1>happen to me, I wouldn't want the people I left behind.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd want them to be sad for a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd want them to be very, very very sad, But

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want that sadness to overcome them and be

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<v Speaker 1>a through line through the rest of their lives. As

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<v Speaker 1>much as you know, I'd want them to think about me,

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<v Speaker 1>But you want you want people to be as joyful

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<v Speaker 1>and feel good. You don't want people to feel terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kelly's very much that attitude.

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<v Speaker 5>I know Kelly struggled. Didn't you struggle with that? Kelly? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you started to feel sort of good and have a

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<v Speaker 5>nice half a day and then you feel guilty. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 5>if mom would be mad, he would be mad.

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<v Speaker 3>But at this point, well that's what I'm saying, John,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know, better than anybody, I've had to differentiate

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<v Speaker 3>between earthly Bob and heavenly Bob. Heavenly Bob, of course

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<v Speaker 3>would want me to be happy and would want me

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<v Speaker 3>to enjoy life and to.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe meet for someone, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But Earthly Bob absolutely not. Earthly Bob would be like,

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<v Speaker 3>how dare you? How could you you're smiling? Oh, so

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't love me at all? Right, I knew it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Like that's how earthly Bob would be, And

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<v Speaker 3>so you have to separate them, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know that better than anybody. John, Like how he would

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<v Speaker 3>have been if he could talk about his own death,

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<v Speaker 3>but he never wanted to talk about it because he

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<v Speaker 3>said he was going to live forever.

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<v Speaker 5>All right. You called me yesterday crying and it was

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<v Speaker 5>a you know, I started crying. But what you said

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<v Speaker 5>was that that the people that didn't know Bob, when

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<v Speaker 5>they read your book, they'll they'll know the real Bob.

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<v Speaker 5>And that meant so much to me because I've just

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<v Speaker 5>been struggling with not having him around and and as

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<v Speaker 5>I know you are, but writing the book was it

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<v Speaker 5>was my way of getting, you know, being close to

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<v Speaker 5>him again and hopefully, and I feel that phone call

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<v Speaker 5>made me because I just wanted him to be proud

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<v Speaker 5>of the of the way I wrote about him, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you said he would be, so that was

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<v Speaker 5>all I needed here.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only would he be proud, I mean I was

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<v Speaker 3>just so touched and blown away by how you portrayed

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<v Speaker 3>and depicted your relationship with him. You said things about

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<v Speaker 3>me and there that like I didn't even know or

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<v Speaker 3>that I had forgotten. And there were so many parts

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<v Speaker 3>of this book that I mean, even myself, as your friend,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who knows you very well like I did, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know and it's such like what, oh, my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>just even stories, stories about Bob, because keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 3>I had only heard Bob's perspective on a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, and we'll get to this, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>your relationship with him, even when you guys first started

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<v Speaker 3>doing Full House together, I had I knew that you

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<v Speaker 3>guys weren't besties from day one, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>only heard Bob's side of the story. So it was

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting to get your side of the story.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was, you know, the two hardest I thought

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<v Speaker 5>that the writing the chapter about Bob or the opening

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<v Speaker 5>chapter was gonna be the harst the hardest chapter. Two

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<v Speaker 5>chapters really that were the Full House ones because I didn't,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I know how important the show was to people,

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<v Speaker 5>and people ask if. Jeff Franklin was over here the

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<v Speaker 5>other day and he's writing a book, and he was

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<v Speaker 5>asking me like, when did I come to terms with

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that you know Full House? And when did

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<v Speaker 5>I like it? When do I accept it? And the

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<v Speaker 5>truth is not until, really, honestly to myself, until I

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<v Speaker 5>wrote this book, until I put down on paper what

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<v Speaker 5>that show meant to people, how much it influenced the life,

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<v Speaker 5>and how it was everybody's family. It wasn't just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the last key kid coming home. It was her family

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<v Speaker 5>and the widow who turns it up a little louder,

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<v Speaker 5>it was his family. And you know, it's become you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the new normal, unconventional family. And the central character on

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<v Speaker 5>that show was love and it was representing the best

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<v Speaker 5>of who we could be. And the critics used to

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<v Speaker 5>just drive me nuts, and I finally just let all

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<v Speaker 5>that go writing this book and said, this show wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>meant for you, guys, You're not smarter than me. I

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<v Speaker 5>get it. It was fast at times, it was silly, it

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<v Speaker 5>was big, But what you would you missed is right

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<v Speaker 5>under that when you put gave you a chance to

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<v Speaker 5>the brain goes to the side and lets the heart feel.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what you intellectual dummies didn't get that I

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<v Speaker 5>got and the rest of the world got too. So

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<v Speaker 5>we weren't making it for you, but just digging at it,

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<v Speaker 5>writing it down and then talking about the relationship with Bob.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it did start off rough. I came from,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, a sitcom with Jack Clug and who was

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<v Speaker 5>you know, one of the great television actors, and Gary

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<v Speaker 5>Marshall was on that show and all these brilliant comics,

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<v Speaker 5>and every scene that we approached was from the story

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<v Speaker 5>and character and why I would say this, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>the way I went into full house. Well, Bob certainly

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<v Speaker 5>didn't work that way. Bob, as Kelly could attest, was

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<v Speaker 5>a laugh junkie. He was addicted to getting laughs and

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<v Speaker 5>if he couldn't get him from where he's you know,

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<v Speaker 5>in the show, it was like going down to skid

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<v Speaker 5>row and getting them. He would make the crew. He

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<v Speaker 5>would just go for the lowest you know, not the crew,

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<v Speaker 5>but the type of comedy to make them laugh. And

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<v Speaker 5>it was it was intrusive to my process. So then

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<v Speaker 5>just trying to figure out, like when did we click,

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<v Speaker 5>and it really wasn't until his sister got scalaraderma and

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<v Speaker 5>Dave's sister had a terrible cancer. Then they found a

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<v Speaker 5>brain tumor and my sister, so the three of us

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<v Speaker 5>were not just sitcom guys that working together. We were

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<v Speaker 5>three brothers that were losing their sisters. And that's when

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<v Speaker 5>we really I think connected.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been incredibly gosh. I mean, obviously I know Bob's

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<v Speaker 1>story well about his sister, and I've gone to events

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<v Speaker 1>for this scleeroderma foundation, but for Dave to have his

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<v Speaker 1>sister sick and you John, I know she was later

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<v Speaker 1>diagnosed with MS and it didn't turn out to be

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<v Speaker 1>a brain tumor after all, but to have those life

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<v Speaker 1>and death situations, that must have been an incredibly bonding

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<v Speaker 1>experience for the three of you. And it was that

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<v Speaker 1>the moment everything changed.

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<v Speaker 5>I think. So it sort of just said, what are

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<v Speaker 5>we doing. Let's put aside our petty bullshit, let's learn

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<v Speaker 5>from each other, Let's all come a little closer to

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<v Speaker 5>your process you come to mind. And we did that.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what else was interesting just thinking it through,

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<v Speaker 5>is that my sister made it, like you said, and

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<v Speaker 5>there's didn't. So that that was I felt guilt about

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<v Speaker 5>that too. It was strange, but we just continued to

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<v Speaker 5>build our love for each other. And you know, thinking

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<v Speaker 5>about that last dinner, Kelly, I mean, Bob was it

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<v Speaker 5>was just you know, it was everything you wan wanted

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<v Speaker 5>in Bob that night. He was just at his to

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<v Speaker 5>me anyway, it was his best and little things that

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<v Speaker 5>normally bothered me about him didn't because I too was coming,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, was starting to come around to be like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, not to be such an asshole, and you

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<v Speaker 5>know it was. And then he wrote this beautiful thing

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<v Speaker 5>and you know Instagram, and you don't think of the

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<v Speaker 5>last time you take a picture like that, to be there,

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<v Speaker 5>last time with somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Set the scene for me. John and Kelly, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>run a double date. You were at Noboo in Malibu, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kelly, do you remember that night being as magical

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<v Speaker 1>as John does?

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<v Speaker 2>I do?

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<v Speaker 3>And but I'll I'm going to backtrack even one more second,

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<v Speaker 3>because John, this is something that now literally this just

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<v Speaker 3>popped in my head. You had said how he was

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<v Speaker 3>at his best and you were at your best. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking back to even maybe just like a month

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<v Speaker 3>before that is when you guys, remember you had that

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<v Speaker 3>work trip I think to Florida and you guys were

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<v Speaker 3>bickering like the old married couple the whole time. And

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<v Speaker 3>I remember Bob came alone and he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we were driving each other nuts. John was mean to me,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I'm sure I was mean to him. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you guys were bickering, bickering, bickering, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we had this dinner that was the complete and total

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<v Speaker 3>like resolution from that and so there was none of

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<v Speaker 3>that you guys, you know. I mean, I've been at

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<v Speaker 3>many dinners with you guys where even you'll you'll bicker

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<v Speaker 3>like the old married couple, and you guys were just

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<v Speaker 3>having the best time. And we truly did have this wonderful,

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<v Speaker 3>wonderful dinner that I'm so grateful that you put it

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<v Speaker 3>into words and you documented that better than even my

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<v Speaker 3>memory allowed. So I'm grateful that I had you as

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<v Speaker 3>my like documentarian. So thank you for that and for

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<v Speaker 3>kind of restating it so beautifully.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was. It was special. He was you know, look,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's uh, it's you don't think of losing

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<v Speaker 5>someone like this like this so fast, and but we've

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<v Speaker 5>we've bummed everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Hut. Yeah, well you know what I mean. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's beautiful. We'll be back with more of

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<v Speaker 1>John Stamos and my date for this podcast, Kelly Rizzo,

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<v Speaker 1>right after this. If you want to get smarter every

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<v Speaker 1>morning with a breakdown of the news and fascinating takes

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<v Speaker 1>on health and wellness and pop culture, sign up for

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. We're back with John Stamos, Kelly Rizzo and Wah,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lot more to you, John Stamos than

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Saggatt. And the book is is really while Bob

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<v Speaker 1>plays an important role in is the through line. As

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<v Speaker 1>you said, it's really a love letter also to your family,

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<v Speaker 1>to growing up.

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<v Speaker 4>So I wanted to ask you about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you grew up in Orange County in an

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<v Speaker 1>extremely close knit family with your parents and your two sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>one older, one younger.

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<v Speaker 5>Could fast. You're so great. I haven't seen you do

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<v Speaker 5>this in a long time, you know, because you know

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<v Speaker 5>on the morning, it's just hearing your voice, like you

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<v Speaker 5>were saying Kenly, like she's so iconic, she's so You're

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<v Speaker 5>so e and smart, but you're also cute and you

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<v Speaker 5>have this this likability about you and this smile and

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<v Speaker 5>just to be because I don't think we've done many

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<v Speaker 5>interviews together to be interviewed by you like this. Sorry

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<v Speaker 5>to interrupt you, but I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Please don't how lucky am I to so on going

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<v Speaker 3>next to her. I'm just so I feel okay, and.

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<v Speaker 5>You look great. You don't age either, thank you, I

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<v Speaker 5>say either, because I'm talking to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>You look damn good. Can I just say, John Stamos,

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<v Speaker 1>you look damn good. It looks like Can I just say,

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<v Speaker 1>look at that head of hair? What is that?

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<v Speaker 5>I have this very large poster, big like I asked

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<v Speaker 5>my sister to get a little thing for the book,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's it's like the whole wall.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's fitting.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's appropriate to you anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry interruption, getting back to my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for those nice things that you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>But I want you to just describe your childhood. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so fun to hear how people grew up and

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<v Speaker 1>how their childhoods made them the people they became. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated by that. More conversations are going on about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how you're raised and trauma and all that stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you had a pretty lovely childhood. Your

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<v Speaker 1>dad owned a restaurant called the Yellow Basket, and you

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<v Speaker 1>worked there as a teen, and you worshiped your dad.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes? Yeah? Yeah, he was my hero. Was he was

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he was larger than life. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>when some kids they reached the age where they go, eh,

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<v Speaker 5>he's just a human. My dad was always a superhero

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<v Speaker 5>to me. He was till the day he died. He

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<v Speaker 5>was the coolest mother player. I mean he you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I got One of the perks of doing what we

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<v Speaker 5>do is we get to, you know, do great things

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<v Speaker 5>to meet people. And my dad loves Sinatra, and so

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<v Speaker 5>I got to take him to a Sinatra carus. I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't know Rickles at the time, but he was opening

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<v Speaker 5>up and that was frank and this is how cool

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<v Speaker 5>my dad was. So we got a chance to go back,

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<v Speaker 5>can meet him. It took. It was hard to do,

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<v Speaker 5>and they said, mister Sinatia wants to see you. You'll know,

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<v Speaker 5>smoke signal brow and somebody a little Tonio came during anymosion.

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<v Speaker 5>I missed that Sinatras will see it. We go back

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<v Speaker 5>and we're taking pictures and everything, and it was time

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<v Speaker 5>to take everybody to take a pictures. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>come on, Dale's got fair, here's snatchal you love me?

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<v Speaker 5>He said, no, I'm good, I'm good and just sat

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<v Speaker 5>back and just he liked he It was enough for

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<v Speaker 5>him to see his son with Sinatra. And my mom

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<v Speaker 5>on the other hand, you know, Jillie Rizzo nearly you know,

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<v Speaker 5>killed her. She jumped on him and she was trying

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<v Speaker 5>to kiss him. But my dad was so fucking cool man.

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<v Speaker 5>He just stayed back and was like, no, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a great man and I got so much

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<v Speaker 5>from him. But one of the things that I highlight

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<v Speaker 5>in the book was that the way he treated people.

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<v Speaker 5>He he treated his bus boy the same way he

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<v Speaker 5>would treat his best customer. And I think and I

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<v Speaker 5>worked on Sundays, and I got I got General Hospital

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<v Speaker 5>during that time, and and and I remember getting when

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<v Speaker 5>I got the role. I was in the casting office

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<v Speaker 5>and I called, I got a call, and I called

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<v Speaker 5>home phone answers and you could get and everybody was

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<v Speaker 5>around the phone and said I got bad news. I

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<v Speaker 5>got it, and they were screaming, and in the back

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<v Speaker 5>you can hear min. I go make sure you don't

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<v Speaker 5>work on Sundays. I need you on Sundays. And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 5>I auditioned, I got it the two days later. I

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<v Speaker 5>shot it the day after that, and it aired two

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<v Speaker 5>weeks later, and it was thirty five million people a day,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, seeing the show Downer Hospital. And I was

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<v Speaker 5>I would still have to go to work on Sunday

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<v Speaker 5>to be my Dad's Sunday guy, you know, and people

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<v Speaker 5>finally start, people started coming in and recognizing me. I

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<v Speaker 5>said that I'm famous. Can I quit? But I think

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<v Speaker 5>it took. And he came out and saw me on

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<v Speaker 5>the set one day and he saw the way that

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<v Speaker 5>I handled people like he does, I think, and then

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<v Speaker 5>he said, all right, enough of the restaurant. This is

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<v Speaker 5>a real thing for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Go.

0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 5>I love your son, be the best you can be.

0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:41.879
<v Speaker 3>And go.

0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 4>And he wasn't that old when he passed away.

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<v Speaker 5>Well yeah, he was sixty five. It was terrible, but

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<v Speaker 5>and he wasn't. He was emotional enough, you know how

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, strong Greek dad, he was you know, my

0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:58.560
<v Speaker 5>mom would say I love you every other word, and

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 5>he said, damn at Latti say it.

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<v Speaker 3>Though.

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<v Speaker 5>He came to Yugoslavia when I was doing a movie

0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.119
<v Speaker 5>in the nineties or and he came home and he

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 5>wrote this beautiful letter and faxed it to me and

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.879
<v Speaker 5>I read it then whatever. So when he when he

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 5>had a stroke in the airport in Las Vegas, it

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.640
<v Speaker 5>was in a stroke, it was it. He was, what's

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:21.719
<v Speaker 5>up to think? Getting choked up here?

0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:22.639
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:24.480
<v Speaker 5>He was a colma for six months and he was

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<v Speaker 5>at our house and I knew he was going to

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<v Speaker 5>die any day, and I was looking around in his

0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 5>closet and his drawers for something I could keep it.

0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:33.600
<v Speaker 5>He was a super humble guy, drove the same car forever.

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.600
<v Speaker 5>I found a crappy old watch that didn't work. But

0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:38.879
<v Speaker 5>I moved his shirt or something and I saw I

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<v Speaker 5>love you Dad. I was like, oh, my heart stopped,

0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:43.480
<v Speaker 5>like what is this? And it was the original letter

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 5>that he had faxed me in Yugoslabya and I have

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.080
<v Speaker 5>it up there. And the way he laid it out was,

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:50.439
<v Speaker 5>you know, A, you know, being on the set, the

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 5>way you handle people really maybe proud and B my

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:55.720
<v Speaker 5>chest is sixty inches, you know, wow because of you

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 5>and C. He says, A man doesn't have many great moments,

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:00.840
<v Speaker 5>but you have given me many.

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<v Speaker 4>I love your dad, And now you have that framed

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<v Speaker 4>in your office at home.

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, I write a lot of notes to my kid.

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know, but now now I'm

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>feeling like I should have written. My mom used to

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 1>write put little notes in my lunch bag and say

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.880
<v Speaker 1>things like don't get stuck in your peanut butter sandwich,

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:23.200
<v Speaker 1>but or when she put a banana that's no banana lady,

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 1>that's my nose, Jimmy to Ranny, but not that. I mean,

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 1>those I think were the only two notes she wrote me.

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>But it is a very sweet thing, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I love how I mean. Obviously, I've heard

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 3>wonderful stories about your mom, but the way she's depicted

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 3>in your book, of course is I mean, she's an angel,

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:41.679
<v Speaker 3>she's a saint. And I love that these notes that

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 3>she's written you, that you actually have in the book,

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:48.439
<v Speaker 3>they're like these little guide posts and signposts throughout each chapter.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did you come up with that idea?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I was looking for a hook, I guess, to

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.360
<v Speaker 5>this book, like you know. And I remember telling the

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 5>agents like I don't like like that book, like the

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 5>art of not giving a fuck, like I need something

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 5>like that, you know. And if you would have told

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:04.640
<v Speaker 5>me thing. A friend of mine said, hey, why don't

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:05.920
<v Speaker 5>you call it if you would have told me, because

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 5>I've said that forever. He a friend of my Neel

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 5>was over and Mike Love was calling me, and I

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 5>didn't answer it, and I said, Toff, you would have

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 5>told me. When I was a kid. My first show

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:16.640
<v Speaker 5>I ever concerted, I went to it was The Beat sports,

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 5>and I wouldn't answer the Vollain Mike love call. So

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 5>it was so that I started that. And then the notes.

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 5>I knew I had them, and I knew my sisters

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 5>had some, so I gathered all those together, sort of

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 5>laid them out. I was like, oh, this is kind

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 5>of going along with my you know, the first chapter.

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 5>You know, when I was getting ready to get in

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 5>my car and go see Bob at the palm and

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.679
<v Speaker 5>you know, and I never made it. I looked out

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.200
<v Speaker 5>the wall, all those frame walls, and I have one

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 5>of her notes frame and said, don't give the devil

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:45.400
<v Speaker 5>a ride, He'll end up doing the driving. And I go, wow, wow, Okay,

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 5>so that goes there.

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>So she just did it all the time. Or when

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>would she give you these notes? Would she put them

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 1>on your pillow? How did it work?

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes they'd be on the pillow. Towards the end when

0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 5>my dad died and I always got divorced, and you know,

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 5>we were both in a rough place and we needed

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 5>each other. It was close to being, you know, too much,

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 5>but it was it was definitely a needy relationship. I

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 5>would go there and she called her house the Castle

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 5>of comfort, and so there'd be not saying welcome to

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.199
<v Speaker 5>the Castle of comfort. But a lot of them, you know,

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 5>I found in like birthday cards. It's like some of

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 5>the stuff she said in these birthday cards were like wow,

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 5>you know, like thank God gave you to man dad

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 5>and me and your dad and my life, you know.

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 5>And I found one too. I don't know if it's

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.399
<v Speaker 5>in I think so. Yeah. It was like I was

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 5>the only person that shared a heartbeat with her, Like

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 5>where does she get that from? But that's I never

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 5>thought about that. But yeah, that's true.

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>That's beautiful.

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 4>It is.

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 5>I write sometimes. Caitlin and I both wrote Billy a

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 5>letter when he was born, and we put it in

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 5>the safe. But what I do is I set up

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 5>an email account for him, so I'll email him once

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 5>a week, once a month or whatever. And it's easier

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:50.959
<v Speaker 5>just to kind of talk into the phone and email.

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 5>And then someday, I guess I'll write him out. But

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 5>he's probably got already a couple hundred, you know, letters

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:58.360
<v Speaker 5>from me waiting for him.

0:25:58.560 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 4>That's so cool.

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, I had wanted to do that, you know,

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the best laid plans of mice and men. I had

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to write my daughter's a letter every year to say,

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:10.439
<v Speaker 1>this is what happened this year. You know, this is

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>what you did. These were some of the moments we had.

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>And John, do you think I did it?

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 4>Of course not.

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 2>How great idea.

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>They're thirty two and twenty eight now, so I would

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.120
<v Speaker 1>like to write them one letter just you know, my book.

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 1>But my book was kind of my letter to my girls,

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, and they I kind of put it all

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.159
<v Speaker 1>out and my life lessons are And that's actually one

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>of the reasons I wanted to write my book. I

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted to record something not necessarily for strangers, but for

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>my daughters, you know, that would memorialize my life. And

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I think this is this is something great for your son.

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 5>You know, yeah, I think so. You know, he's a

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 5>little shit today. He slept with us. He slept with

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 5>me and Kit was on for a couple of nights,

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 5>so crawl into bed with me and it was yesterday

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 5>and wake up in his like, you know, his little

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.479
<v Speaker 5>face is right up my nose right now, And uh

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 5>is it?

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Dad?

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you smell like the bathroom at my school. Well,

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 5>thank you, son, Billy, thank you, Billy. Well, he's so

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 5>funny and he and his humor is a lot closer

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 5>to Bob's than mine. And that's you know, sometimes I

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 5>really get bummed out when I that Bob doesn't get

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 5>because he just he said, Dad, when if you have

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 5>to pee and you hold it longer, the pea nest

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 5>goes away or something like that. That's something Michael Bob

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 5>would have talked about.

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 3>That is very close to a Bob joke that we

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 3>know about.

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 5>I walked by and uh not a couple of months,

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 5>a couple of weeks after Bob passed away in and

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 5>he was the nanny was showing him Full House. And

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 5>most time he watches it just to get enough Ammo

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 5>to make fun of, you know, to goof on me,

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 5>and they'll start like, Billy, go clean up your toys.

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 5>You got it. But this particular show, he's five and

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 5>a half and it was The Beach Boys, and he

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 5>it was this this scene where where Danny was telling

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 5>Uncle Jesse he wishes that his life rock and roll

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.719
<v Speaker 5>are cool, and Jesse was saying, I wish I had

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 5>your life of family and stuff, and in truth, it

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 5>was it was the real us. It wasn't the characters.

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 5>And I just lost it and I was kind of

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 5>he could see me out at a side of perpet

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 5>and and you know, in a moment of coolness that

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 5>that I haven't maybe haven't seen since he let me

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 5>have that moment, and I was, you know, I was

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 5>just choked up, and he looked at me and I

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 5>just kind of walked away. But so sometimes he can

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 5>be cool. He's the light of mine.

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>He's so cute. He's so cute. He's like a little

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>mini John is a handsome kid. I stalk you guys

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram.

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 5>So weird. I try to teach him because now it's

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 5>like he's a lot of people know you're cute. You're trying,

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 5>and I said, no, you're not. You know, I gotta

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 5>figure out how.

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.239
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to get to well. Also, you have

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to praise different things. You have to praise his grit,

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the fact that she doesn't give up, that he tried

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to think, the fact that he's kind to other people. Yes, yeah,

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that's so important because especially for girls, like I used

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>to say, if somebody said to my girls, so you're pretty,

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>and I'd say, but they're very smart. Actually they're they're

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>smarter than they are.

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I tell him now, just this morning. I said, people,

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 5>you want people to like you because you're smart, and

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 5>you're kind and you're compassionate, which he is. Yeah, that's

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 5>what you know. But he's a little and I wasn't

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 5>like this as a kid. I guess Caitlyn was a

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 5>flirt of her. He he's got girls. Remember Kelly at

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 5>my birthday party a couple of weeks ago, Gabella still

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 5>Isabella and too much. We were in Disney in Paris,

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 5>and I swear this so he It was two days

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 5>and the first day we had a guide, older French woman,

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 5>very nice but maybe in her fifties or sixties, and believes.

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 5>The next day, this beautiful third thirty year old French

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 5>shows up. It was a bit and billy like boom

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 5>and here's his move, which I can't use because I'm married.

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 5>But he's like, uh so, what's my favorite color?

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Still? So?

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 5>What kind of uh? What's my favorite animal? Huh? Like

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 5>he's quizzing them on his stuff. So and then I

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 5>kind of overhear him talking about his girlfriend, Bella. He's

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 5>gotta go my girlfriend Bella and she lives in the neighborhood.

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 5>It's really nice and spiring. Mamma then the lady goes,

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 5>excuse me, I have to go the Beth of them

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 5>super walks me it's soon, swear to God. As soon

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 5>as she's out of earshot, he goes to me, goes,

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 5>why did I tell her I had a girlfriend?

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 4>Wow, he's already a player.

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>That is.

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't like it. I don't like it.

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Wait, So, speaking of Disney, so obviously I know you

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 3>as the biggest Disney freak of anyone I've ever met

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 3>in my life. Like, I didn't know like Disney File

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 3>was a thing until I met you. But in your

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 3>book you talk about like the origins of it, which

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 3>was so interesting to me because I never really knew

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 3>where it came from.

0:30:58.000 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 5>Growing up next to Disney. Yeah. Well, I mean you're

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 5>talking child and my childhood was it was. It couldn't

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 5>have gone better. And I think a lot of people

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 5>kids would go to the Disney to escape whatever they

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 5>were dealing with at home, and I it was the

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 5>opposite For me. I just loved it. But it was

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 5>also when once you walked through those gates, the artistry,

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 5>and you know the way that that these brilliant imagineers

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 5>want you to feel. Age Lambs, I really got attracted

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 5>to that, and it was a place that's sort of

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 5>where I reached puberty. There was a place to you know,

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 5>trying to pick up, try to pick up girls. I

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 5>never really quite got it.

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 4>It was kind of your like your mall growing up maybe.

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, right right, yes, and so yeah, I'd be

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 5>standing in line there with my dad's members only jacket

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 5>and zits and hair and feather members.

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, that brings back memories my dad.

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 5>Still, the chicks didn't like that. I realized that. But Kelly,

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 5>we all went. We had a great Remember, we all

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 5>with Dave and his wife Melissa, and we all wore Onesies. Remember.

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Bob was not happy because it didn't quite fit.

0:31:57.600 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 5>It was didn't like he couldn't quite sip it.

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 2>And he was very unhappy that we forced him to

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 2>wear the ones.

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>But you proposed to your wife at Disney World or Land.

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess disney Land out here, Disney World in Orlando.

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, like I had a choice. I was done

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 5>with Disney until I met her, and then she's fucking

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 5>back in again.

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.719
<v Speaker 1>One of the things you write about John is that

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to be famous from the beginning. I mean,

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>why What did you see that sparked that in you

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>that said I want to be a household name or

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I want it, I want people to know me.

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I do say that a lot, and it is true.

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 5>But in closer look that it was really about being

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 5>liked because I, you know, I was before the bullying

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 5>was even a term. Some jack asked gave me a

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 5>black eye because his girlfriend wanted to go out with me,

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 5>and you know that was so humiliating, and I wasn't

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, I was a dorky kid. I like puppets

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 5>and magic and nothing cool about any of it. And girls.

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 5>I put a picture in the book of me with

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 5>a puppet trying to impress some girls. She's like, oh,

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 5>then you know the next picture you see me on

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 5>drums like I gotta. But so I think it was

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 5>more of just wanting to be liked. But I did

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, being famous was something that I wanted first,

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 5>and then then I learned acting. Acting Okay, I don't

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:14.239
<v Speaker 5>learn that, but it was yeah, you know, it was

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe did you find this writing your book

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 5>that I really discovered my story as I was writing it,

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 5>Like again, like I didn't think it's your life, so

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 5>you go, ah, it's okay, it's not do that. I

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 5>play with it. But as you when you write it

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 5>all down, there's a lot.

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 5>And I was always sort of trying to find the

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 5>relatable you know places, and certainly being a dorky kid

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 5>and being bullied, you know, was one. And being cheated on.

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 5>You know, I think you know, people probably think, oh,

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 5>he's never gonna get cheated on looking at him, and

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, my wife cheated on me because I have

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 5>no money. I'm not good like no, no, no, no, no,

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 5>it's people are assholes. That's why he got cheated or not.

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 5>But so I was trying to find as many relatable

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 5>moments throughout the book, and they kind of came. But

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 5>what I was going to ask you was, did you

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 5>find like as I was discovering my story, I realized

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 5>so many things that happened back then that I get now.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 5>It was in the middle of a lot of cultural

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 5>being on General Hospital, and the storylines between the black

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 5>actors and the white actors was so different, and they

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 5>had to get their hair done in another place and

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 5>look back, I said, wait a minute, that's segregation, you know. Now,

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 5>you know, we're dealing with homophobia in the theater, inequality

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 5>in the workplace for women, my dad. It was so

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 5>great to write about my dad. He never held my

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 5>mom wanted to be a housewife and she was great,

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 5>and my dad never held that over. He never said,

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to make the money you don't. In fact,

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 5>he thought her and praised her for her job was

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.800
<v Speaker 5>harder and more important, and it was. Those are the

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.399
<v Speaker 5>examples that I had. But looking back at all those

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, those kind of tent poles moments of my life,

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 5>was interesting.

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 1>It is interesting. I think also if you look back,

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>how much things have changed. You know, I mean, I'm

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>older than you are, John, I think by six years,

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>but you're, well, how are you? I'm sixty six, Yeah,

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>so kind of the same generation. And you know, you

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>think about like when we were little, nobody was out

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>if they were gay. I mean, it was a very

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 1>closeted world. So much homophobia you think about, you know,

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>there was if there wasn't segregation, obviously there was de

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>facto segregation with a black part of town where I

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>grew up. And women obviously the role of women and

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the aspirations you could have as a young woman. My

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>mom was a housewife as well, and my dad never

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, lauded that over her. But she just didn't

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 1>have that many choices, you know. There weren't that many

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>opportunities for my mom to have a life outside the

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>home in a very tangible way. So sometimes when I

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>was writing my book, I would be like, Wow, we

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>have really evolved as a culture. Obviously, we have a

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>long way to go. It's not like we've eradicated sexism

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>or racism or all the isms that haunt us as

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a society. But the progress that has been made, it

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>is the changes in attitudes. It's pretty something, you know,

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>it's something to behold.

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I think, you know, yeah exactly. And I

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 5>think about a lot about, you know, some of the

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 5>sexual endeavors that I went through in my life that

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, you think of them as. Back then, it

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 5>was like, oh, every school boys dream, you know. I

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 5>walked into my dressing with a naked girl in the closet,

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 5>and and and this penthouse pet came in and had

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 5>sex with me, and and I, you know, I'm happy

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 5>to say that they were not what I thought it

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 5>was going to be. I didn't feel good after. I

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 5>didn't like it. I wanted to love, I want to

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 5>like my family. But yeah, so I found those things.

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 5>We certainly, this me Too movement has been so incredible

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 5>because it's just it really, women have really done a

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 5>brilliant job at making us men, you know, straighten up

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 5>and look at you know, look at the way that

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 5>they've been treated over the years. Uh So, a lot

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 5>of that, But then you look at so then we

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, with racism and some of this stuff like

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 5>have we not got past this yet? Come on, there

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 5>was so much of it, I guess stamp down without Okay,

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 5>we're moving forward, and now it's bubbling up again.

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think we're having the kind of conversations about it, John,

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that we never did when we were younger. I think

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.399
<v Speaker 1>it was just sort of part of our lives. And

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.879
<v Speaker 1>I remember when I did my my daytime talk show,

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>which I renamed My Stupid daytime talk Show, even though

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>there were some good episodes, but I remember thinking, well,

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't It's just I that's a longer story, read

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>my book. But it's just that I never got to

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the kind of things that I really wanted to explore.

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Was not necessarily perfect for what a daytime audience.

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 5>Was looking for nowadays, you would do, you would say,

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 5>fuck you, this is the way I want to do

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 5>my show, and here's what I'm talking about.

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Well I did, and it was canceled. But anyway, well, okay,

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>good though, Yeah, yeah I did, and but but I

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>remember wanting to do a story of an episode or

0:37:56.080 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>a show on Race and I remember, like nobody, we

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>couldn't figure out how to address it or how to

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>attack it because it just wasn't part of the national

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 1>conversation back then. So in a way, we've had so

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>many growing pains talking about systemic racism and even sexism,

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>but at least they're being talked about, if not solved, right, yeah.

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 5>Then there's some culpability. There's some people that are having

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:29.879
<v Speaker 5>to you know, it's interesting they didn't. The publisher kept saying,

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.799
<v Speaker 5>where's Laurie want to talk about the you know, the

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 5>college gatter you got to write about there. I said, no,

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 5>I don't, And I talked to Laurie about it. She says, yeah,

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 5>go ahead, We'll trying to say anything you want. You

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 5>can defend me. I said, Asheria, and I sort of

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 5>wrote it out. I said, no, this is not I

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.959
<v Speaker 5>didn't like it. And then so it was nothing there.

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.720
<v Speaker 5>And then I said, it does feel like there's something missing,

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 5>and I went back and I just wrote about from

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 5>my point of view, the way she went through it.

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 5>Everybody makes mistakes big and small, and by the way,

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.439
<v Speaker 5>like the last person you think on full that would

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 5>go to jail first be me, probably Jodie or both

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 5>of us together. But the way she you know, it

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 5>was a study and resilience and the way she got

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 5>up every day and you know, took care of a

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 5>family and took care of a marriage. I mean I

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 5>would have crumbled way for she did. So that was

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 5>interesting to be able to just write about her and

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 5>have that conversation, not picking sides.

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 2>She is so strong.

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Just her attitude and outlook on everything, you know, for

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 3>what she went through to just have such a positive

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 3>just a smile on her face and a positive outlook.

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 2>On things, it's really remarkable.

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>That must have been mortifying and horrifying for her to

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>go through. And people, I mean, I'm not saying what

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>she did was right, but people are so cruel and

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>so righteous and judgmental.

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 4>That must have been really hard.

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 5>The mud that was slung at her kids daily too,

0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, in her family. But she you know, yeah,

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 5>I mean it was the way that she handled it,

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 5>and she she was accountable. She did everything she was

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 5>supposed to do. Go to jail, do this, you know,

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 5>and and and a lot of people don't know that

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 5>during that time she was going and helping kids in

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 5>schools and you know, under privileged kids and bringing food

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 5>to anyway, she's a saint, and she you know, she

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 5>made a big mistake and typical Lori fashion, weish she

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 5>got out of jealous. How was it, she goes, Oh,

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 5>it wasn't bad. I met some I met a couple

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 5>of really nice ladies. We're in our book club now,

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.280
<v Speaker 5>and it was like, okay.

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 2>She said.

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 3>She took the time to get to know everyone there

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 3>and learn their stories, and they all had a lot

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 3>of difficult stories, and she really wanted to understand, like

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.800
<v Speaker 3>what brings people to that place.

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, she's never.

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Really done an interview, has she No, No, you should

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>get her only about it anyway, John, I wanted to

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>ask you just a few more things about the book.

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.359
<v Speaker 1>And one is your obsession or lifelong love, I should say,

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of music. And you included a niche quote in your

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>yearbook without music life would be in the steak.

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my dad thought it was so stupid. He goes,

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 5>that's the dumbest thing I ever heard, really, Dad, Well,

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:07.720
<v Speaker 5>look who I'm playing with today.

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, let's talk about your music and how you

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>fell in love with music and the whole process of that.

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 5>I was drumming was my main thing. And by the way,

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 5>if you can see, can you see, Kelly was kind

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 5>enough to give me Bob's guitar. It's the back when

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 5>in the middle, see that. And I don't play it

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 5>because if I picked it up and started playing it

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 5>be like dog licked my balls. Fu fu fuck. But

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, so I try not to pick it up,

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 5>but not a digress and I'll go back to you

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 5>need to we need to, Kelly. There's one recording of

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 5>this song before Bob died, and he was working it

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 5>into his act and it's about I just saw it

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 5>the other day. He sings a song about falling in

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 5>love with her dad.

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 3>It's about my dad. It's called I'm Not in Love

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:58.240
<v Speaker 3>with my Wife's father. Yeah, and it's about my dad

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 3>and it's hilarious. And there's only one because he never

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 3>recorded it and he never it was going to be

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 3>in his new special, and so he didn't want anyone

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:07.839
<v Speaker 3>else to record it because he didn't want to getting

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 3>out there because it's supposed to be a surprise in

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 3>the special. And so I recorded it at his one

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 3>of his last shows ever in Denver, and I have

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 3>a video of it, and at some point I need

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 3>to release it. And John had, you know, a good

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 3>idea for maybe how we should release that one day.

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>But maybe you could do it and raise money for

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Clara Derma or something.

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 5>What was the idea to play it right now?

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>On Katie's podcast, No, No, No, I wish I was thinking,

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:32.879
<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, I like the way you think,

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 1>John Stamos.

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 4>But then I was thinking, no, no, Kelly's way too

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 4>smart for that.

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's got to be debuted somewhere.

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, No, she had a good idea. It could be

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 3>to raise money for the SRF.

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 5>By the way, this is a This is the bracelet

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 5>that we put out to raise money for Bob's charity

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 5>and Kelly's charity, and it's the biggest selling bracelet. It's uh,

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 5>we have a thing called Saint Amos and you can

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.359
<v Speaker 5>buy a bracelet this this is one's for Bob.

0:42:58.520 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I know, I love that you guys did that.

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 4>And wait, what does it go for? Is that first

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 4>claraderma something else?

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's their charity like in conjunction with the SRF,

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 3>which is really really nice.

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 4>And what is your charity?

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 2>John so thoughtful?

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 5>Well, I've devoted over the last thirty thirty five years

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 5>to the abused children and you know, to stop that

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 5>which it's you know, there's been on the rise since

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 5>the pandemic and I, you know, I talk a little

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 5>bit about it in the book. You know something that

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 5>happened to me. I felt sort of like a Charlottan

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 5>not talking about you know, I had a instiand with

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 5>a babysitter when I was twelve or so, and it

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 5>was I stopped it away and I I came back

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 5>when I was writing a speech for an event that

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 5>they were giving me an award for the childhood and

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 5>I said, you know what, now is not the time

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to pack this away. And then when I

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 5>was writing the book, I was just like, yeah, I

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 5>did I work? Did I put everything in here that

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 5>I will? Oh wait a minute, what about that? And

0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 5>I talked to my sisters and I talked to Kate

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 5>then and it's very brief, but I but you know,

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 5>it was important to me to talk about it. It's

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 5>a very you know, uncomfortable situation with a babysitter, and

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, I think that I think the the rate

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 5>is like seven out of every twenty five girls have

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 5>been you know, sexually abused, and only four something out

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 5>of every twenty five men boys. But that's because boys

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 5>don't talk about it. So I felt it was sort

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.879
<v Speaker 5>of important to tell my my incident there.

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>The numbers are really amazing, aren't they When you think

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:35.719
<v Speaker 1>about it, how prevalent it is, and you know what

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:40.240
<v Speaker 1>a hidden, dark secret is for so many, so many people,

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and how how much it shapes them going forward with

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 1>their view of themselves and the way they look at

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:48.799
<v Speaker 1>others and relationships and all that.

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's why I thought it was important. And we

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 5>have a one eight hundred number one eight hundred four

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 5>a child and this is one of the reasons why

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 5>I mentioned the book too, so I could talk about

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 5>that because if you you know, if you feel like

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 5>there's abuse going on, you can call. The other thing

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 5>is like we talked to if your parent and you're

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 5>stressed and and you're thinking about getting angry at your kids.

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:13.800
<v Speaker 5>You can call that number two. So that was important.

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.720
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back with more of John Stamos and Kelly

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Rizzo my Plus one right after this. We're back with

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Rizzo and John Stamos. Let's go back to music,

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like you didn't really tell me about that,

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>because you write without music, life would be a mistake.

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:43.320
<v Speaker 1>That's a Nietzche quote. My dad thought it was stupid.

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he knew how important music was to me.

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Of course, he didn't think it was so stupid. When

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I went on to play drums with the Beach Boys,

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 1>John Fogerty and Bruce Springsteen, BB King, Willie Nilson, Little Richard, America, God,

0:45:56.280 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>remember America. I loved America, Tom Jones and many more

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.720
<v Speaker 1>grades over the years. That's so cool.

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, vibe. Yeah, I've been blessed to I'm a good

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm a decent drummer. I'm not a terrible singer. And

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 5>a melody was always sort of escape. I love hearing it,

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 5>but I can't play, so I played drums. It was

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 5>my identity, you know, even before wanting to be an actor.

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 5>I didn't evenly act in school, and I didn't really

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:21.439
<v Speaker 5>it wasn't in any of the plays. And I wasn't

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 5>a good singer. But finding something early and I encourage

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 5>any parent to steer the kid towards something that they

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 5>helped find their identity. And that's how I wasn't junior

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 5>high school and high school. I was a music I

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:34.720
<v Speaker 5>was a drummer. I was in the marching vantag Jutment.

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 5>I just loved it. I just loved it. And the

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 5>first time I heard the Beach Boys song at Disneyland,

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 5>I was across the park at the Matterhorn and I

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 5>heard Sloop John b and it pulled me over like

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 5>a like you know, like a pied piper, you know.

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.280
<v Speaker 5>And I pulled up. I just got to the stage

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.359
<v Speaker 5>and they were singing this a cappella part of Slop

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 5>John Bean. Was like, oh my god, what is it?

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 5>What is that? You know? It was? I call the

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 5>Beachwoys music heart music. You don't have to think about it.

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 5>But and so I just set off and being the

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 5>acting cut sort of took off first. I always wanted

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 5>to play drums on TV. When I was on General Hospital,

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 5>there was a I was asked, can I play drums? Like,

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 5>we're not taking requests, kid, you know, relax. And then

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 5>one day I said to my dad, Dad, this guy

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.400
<v Speaker 5>named Sammy Junior. Something's on the show. What about like

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:20.280
<v Speaker 5>samm David Junior. M yeah, oh my god, he's a legend.

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 5>And that started my love for the rat pack of

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 5>my dad saying you got to listen to Otra, to

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 5>Dean Martin or Sammy. So I said, what do I

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:27.720
<v Speaker 5>talk to him about? He said, well, he's a drummer.

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:30.800
<v Speaker 5>Talked to him about playing drums maybe. So the scene

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 5>was that that Sammy was playing a character and I

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.720
<v Speaker 5>was the host of the talent show at the Waterfront.

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.000
<v Speaker 5>We were raising money for the street kids stuff, and

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 5>I was I was standing next to him. I said,

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 5>mister David, they won't let me play drums on the

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 5>He said right. And I talked him about music and

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:50.240
<v Speaker 5>I had a real conversation about it, and I do impressions.

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:53.880
<v Speaker 4>This, yea, yeah, do it. I was like, keep going.

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 5>So so he's so. I talked to him about music

0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 5>and he said, okay, ba, how hold on man? And

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 5>he goes over to uh somewhere to talk to the

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 5>producers and he comes back and just do what I say, man,

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 5>I know what, And I remember him being very firm,

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 5>just do what I said in the scene, like okay.

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.359
<v Speaker 5>So I introduced him as the character and he comes

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 5>out and then he goes, uh, Blackie, you playing drums? Right,

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, and it completely had lived and you can

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:19.439
<v Speaker 5>it's on YouTube. I'm like, yeah, let's come up here.

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 3>That's the best way to start the show, since I'm

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:23.439
<v Speaker 3>an opening act.

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 5>It was a little jazz come together, that's it. And

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 5>he plays there was a drum, there was a band

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 5>set of it, and he's playing piano and I'm playing

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 5>drums and you want two three four, And you could

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 5>see this stage like passing on to the young man

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 5>like you you got you one of us. You're a musician,

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 5>you get it. And it was the most beautiful and

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.439
<v Speaker 5>we just kept playing. They didn't stop us, they didn't

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 5>dare stop us. And I heard later that everybody in

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:00.880
<v Speaker 5>New York and LA and they were all everyone was

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 5>walking towards the monitors like, you know, like, oh my god,

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 5>what having And he and it ended and he gave

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 5>me his big hug, and it was just, you know,

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:09.279
<v Speaker 5>it was I've been playing music on the TV ever since.

0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:09.839
<v Speaker 5>Thanks to him.

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 4>What a great story, What a great story.

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>And now you and Mike Love and the Beach Boys

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.480
<v Speaker 1>are like BFFs, right, the Beach Boys.

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 5>I was obsessed with the Beach Boys as a kid.

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 5>I was obsessed with them and I it was the

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.439
<v Speaker 5>first concert I ever went to at the Universal level theater,

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, before I had the roof on it. And

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 5>I just never imagined that one day I'd be with him.

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:32.840
<v Speaker 5>One of the first times I played with them was

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 5>in They would do these concerts, you know, at the

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 5>Fourth of July, and they did a few shows, and

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 5>then James Watson they're attracting the wrong people. They're not

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 5>America's band, blah blah, and they banned them and brought.

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:46.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh they did the Interior Secretary.

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's Jacks and and they got Wayne Newton instead,

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 5>and so don you know, and Nancy Reagan's now I'm

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 5>more of a you know, she was more of a

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:01.239
<v Speaker 5>surfer girl than had dunka Shane Gallant. So they got

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 5>rid of him and then brought the Beach Boys back.

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.280
<v Speaker 5>And that's when I did it with him. In the afternoon.

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 5>It was in Philadelphia for a million people and there

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 5>were bobs from and then DC for seven hundred and

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:13.879
<v Speaker 5>fifty thousand people. That was one of the first times

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 5>I played with them.

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Wow are you worried about anything in this book? John,

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean you talk about your marriage to Rebecca Romaine.

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:26.439
<v Speaker 1>That was challenging and difficult, and I always thought, Wow,

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>two people in the same profession must be a very

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:34.319
<v Speaker 1>fraught situation, right, And it turned out to be for

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 1>you all.

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:37.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know if it was because I mean

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 5>she yeah, I don't know. It was interesting that again,

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 5>that was a discovery that I made, Like the and

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 5>you know what, you're the first person asking me about that.

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:45.279
<v Speaker 3>This.

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 5>They were saying, well, you have to write about that.

0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:49.960
<v Speaker 5>I said, no, I don't, but I guess I did.

0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 5>And what I came to discover, you know, all these

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 5>years I was like, she's a terrible president. She even

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 5>did this, and she did that, blah blah blah. And

0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 5>in Rihab when I was doing the twelve step, the

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 5>fourth step is to down all your resentments, and she

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:03.840
<v Speaker 5>did that. You know, I had a field day with that.

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 5>And that you know, the guy says you're done, and

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 5>I said, no, there me another pen writing all this stuff,

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 5>and he said, no, what part did you play in that?

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Is it?

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:13.359
<v Speaker 5>What? I don't paid it, even if it was one

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 5>percent of it. And I started writing that down, and

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:20.280
<v Speaker 5>I realized I had more to do with the demise

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:23.319
<v Speaker 5>of our marriage than I was willing to admit all

0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:26.440
<v Speaker 5>these years. And at that moment I had just learned

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:30.880
<v Speaker 5>to forgive and let it go. But so that was

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:32.880
<v Speaker 5>the only way I really was going to write about that.

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:35.400
<v Speaker 5>You know, what happened in the book that you know

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 5>that that she was It just didn't work out. No

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 5>good guys, no bagg you. It is just the way

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:40.239
<v Speaker 5>it is.

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I think writing a book, you have

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to be honest about your flaws, and sometimes that's kind

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 1>of embarrassing, you know, but you you know, you have

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to say where you fell short and what you wish

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you had done differently. I mean, it's a it's a

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 1>very sometimes painful look at your life. Obviously, there are

0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of incredibly wonderful things that happened, but you

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 1>have to reassess some of the things that you did

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and own it.

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, otherwise, what's you know, what's the point. I did

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.839
<v Speaker 5>start out like to write a hero story I did,

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 5>and then I was like no, no, no, no, and

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 5>then it became a human story.

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:16.839
<v Speaker 3>Well, you said you wanted it to be relatable, and

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 3>that's how you can be relatable is when you're human

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 3>and you're showing you know, as you said, like how

0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 3>you fell short, and you know, if you're the hero story,

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.320
<v Speaker 3>it's not going to be as relatable to people.

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<v Speaker 1>Right before we go, Kelly, obviously, I think for you

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<v Speaker 1>from what I understand reading about Bob and reading what

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<v Speaker 1>John wrote about Bob and what he meant to him,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that must have been an incredible experience for you,

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 1>both one of of pain but also one of great memories.

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:56.839
<v Speaker 1>And when you called John after you read the part

0:52:56.880 --> 0:53:00.040
<v Speaker 1>about Bob, what did you say, Yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted John to know in case we didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>as much time to discuss it today, like just to

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<v Speaker 3>hear from me how much it meant to me, not

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:14.959
<v Speaker 3>only as Bob's wife and as John's friend, but also

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<v Speaker 3>just as somebody in the public who's going to read this,

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:24.080
<v Speaker 3>how they're going to see Bob and see how he

0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 3>was portrayed as a person, as a friend as I mean,

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:31.359
<v Speaker 3>because you know, you write about even parts of our

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 3>relationship or mine and Bob's, you know, as a husband,

0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:37.799
<v Speaker 3>as a friend, as a brother, which you had said

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 3>that you guys had always both you wanted brothers, and

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<v Speaker 3>so you guys finally did become that to each other

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:45.439
<v Speaker 3>after you know, wasn't right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Took a few years.

0:53:47.360 --> 0:53:49.960
<v Speaker 3>But I told you yesterday when I called you in

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 3>tears that it just meant so much to me that

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<v Speaker 3>you told his story so beautifully and about just who

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:00.160
<v Speaker 3>he was and how people reading this are just to

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:04.920
<v Speaker 3>gets such an incredible picture of who he truly was

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:08.719
<v Speaker 3>as a person. But also the memory that you have

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 3>of so many of these instances were so detailed, And

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 3>it was also so great to get it from your perspective, because,

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:17.640
<v Speaker 3>as I said, I had really only heard Bob's perspective,

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:21.399
<v Speaker 3>and you just did such a beautiful, wonderful tribute to him.

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:24.320
<v Speaker 3>And he would be so proud. I know his girls

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 3>are going to be so proud. I'm so proud, and

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 3>you should just be so proud.

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<v Speaker 5>Than that means the world to me. I was really

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I didn't know what I didn't know. I

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<v Speaker 5>was really thank you. I appreciate that.

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was telling Kelly, I lost a good

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<v Speaker 1>friend recently, and I am going to carry her in

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:44.319
<v Speaker 1>my heart and try to be more like her moving on.

0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just curious if you if there's anything about

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<v Speaker 1>you that changed after losing Bob.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, of course. I mean, you know, Kelly can

0:54:57.280 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 5>attest that his whole thing was he never left anything

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:01.440
<v Speaker 5>on the table. I always said, I love you, I

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 5>care about you know, and tomorrow is never promised. And

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 5>Bob lived his life that way, right, And he went out.

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:11.320
<v Speaker 5>I remember talking to him home Jamie the Curtis she

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:13.760
<v Speaker 5>wrote the thing in the front. I remember telling Jamie

0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:16.319
<v Speaker 5>like he was so alive, and she said, yeah, and

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 5>that wouldn't you rather die alive and vibrant than some

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 5>old you know, comrudging on the couch, you know that

0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 5>didn't you know, fulfill the dreams? Kelly can attest he was,

0:55:27.600 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 5>he had a new thing about him. He felt like

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 5>a teenager again. He was doing new stuff. And he

0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 5>played that last night. That last show he played was

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:37.239
<v Speaker 5>like a two hour show, right. I mean, he just

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:43.320
<v Speaker 5>and and you know I just wrote about just picturing

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 5>him going, you know, on his way home, he called

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:48.440
<v Speaker 5>Kelly and said he had a great show, and he

0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 5>had a picture and he wanted her to fix it up,

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:53.680
<v Speaker 5>and she said, you look handsome, but I don't need

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 5>to fix anything there, and he and it was beautiful,

0:55:56.719 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 5>and he just loved you so much, Kelly, and and

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:05.280
<v Speaker 5>he I just pictured him going to bed thinking about

0:56:05.320 --> 0:56:07.560
<v Speaker 5>all of us, all the people that he loves, that

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:10.799
<v Speaker 5>he would see us again, and that the laughter didn't

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:14.759
<v Speaker 5>have time to die down and he left us. But

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:21.040
<v Speaker 5>I just, uh, that's the way, That's what I hope

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 5>he felt when he fell asleep and didn't wake up.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if I could just share one thing, sorry, I

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:33.960
<v Speaker 3>just I love you John anyway. That really got me.

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 3>That made me like start bawling. This is why I

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:39.400
<v Speaker 3>called you yesterday because there was one quote from it

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:43.080
<v Speaker 3>that you know, for people listening to this that it

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 3>was such an incredible, like personal little exchange that just

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 3>shows how well you knew Bob too. And it's just

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 3>kind of explained this like all three of our relationship.

0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:58.799
<v Speaker 3>But you said, I knew from the start that she

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 3>really loved Bob for the way we all did. She'd

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:03.640
<v Speaker 3>listened to him rattle on about himself for a bit

0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:06.319
<v Speaker 3>longer than I usually would. The first time she said

0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:08.799
<v Speaker 3>to him, this isn't all about you, Bob, I knew

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 3>she was the one.

0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:10.840
<v Speaker 2>He'd pout.

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:12.959
<v Speaker 3>She'd kiss him, and in a sweet tone, she'd say,

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:14.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, I love you, honey as we hug in

0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 3>the driveway. Tell her you got ripped off. You didn't

0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 3>have him long enough. And you know, and I've said

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 3>before that that's one of those things that it's so

0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:27.600
<v Speaker 3>understandable why people think that, because you know, we'd only

0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 3>been we'd only had three and a half years of

0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:31.800
<v Speaker 3>being married. But and I'm sure you feel this now too,

0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:36.120
<v Speaker 3>that it's just there's so much of an overwhelming feeling

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.960
<v Speaker 3>of gratitude that we did have him at all, versus

0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:40.400
<v Speaker 3>feeling we didn't have him longer.

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 5>So that's true. We're all better off because of him,

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:47.840
<v Speaker 5>and you know, we have to really take his thing

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 5>and just live each moment the most we can and

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:52.840
<v Speaker 5>be loving.

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And as you said, leave nothing unsaid. Maybe that's a

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>good lesson from Bob. You know, tell people in your

0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 1>life regularly what they mean to you.

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:02.920
<v Speaker 4>Amen.

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 5>And you both mean so much to me.

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:06.320
<v Speaker 4>Oh thanks John.

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:11.760
<v Speaker 1>By the way, when I instagram stalk you, you were beloved.

0:58:12.120 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean everyone loves you, John Stamos.

0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:15.760
<v Speaker 5>What is that supposed to mean?

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:17.360
<v Speaker 4>You're very popular?

0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Like when it was your birthday, all the notes and

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the comments. I was like, good lord, this guy is

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 1>is very well loved. And I meant it as a compliment,

0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 1>not as a diss and well, no, I agregiate it.

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:32.200
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, okay, thank you. I mean, you know, but

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:34.440
<v Speaker 5>I think that's another reason to write a book. And

0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure you felt this too. It's like, the book

0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 5>is not like an Instagram post and a blip here

0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 5>and a blip there, and here look what I'm doing here.

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:45.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's a deep, deep die. Right, But thank you, Katie.

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna listen to you. I'm gonna start listen to

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 5>your book tonight. Really, Okay, did you enjoy that the audio?

0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:51.560
<v Speaker 5>That was my favorite part was the hardest, But I

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 5>really loved doing the other.

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:56.120
<v Speaker 1>It was hard, honestly, and it was during the pandemic.

0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:59.400
<v Speaker 1>So this makeshift studio I put together in a bedroom,

0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I have like blankets. It was like a fort we

0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 1>build as a kid, with pillows and blankets and under

0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, this huge.

0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 4>Mess of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we didn't have a recording studio to do it

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<v Speaker 1>in and it was exhausting. I have to say it

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:17.600
<v Speaker 1>was exhausting, but it was worth it because I think

0:59:17.640 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to have you narrating your own book, telling your own story,

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine getting someone else to read your words.

0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:25.920
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, you're a very good writer.

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:30.720
<v Speaker 5>John, Oh, thank you. Yeah. It was the hardest that

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 5>they said, oh, you can get it done a five

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 5>or six days. I took like thirty two days or something,

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:37.080
<v Speaker 5>because you would it would just start, first of all,

0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 5>your cold reading your life, and that's weird, and you

0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 5>could change things that didn't sound right, and it was

0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 5>very emotional. I would just go after a couple hours

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:46.680
<v Speaker 5>and be like, I gotta go too much.

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:48.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you got to pace yourself.

0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:50.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad I did it, and I'm glad to talk

0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 5>to you guys today about this.

0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:54.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I'm excited to hear your audio as well.

0:59:55.120 --> 0:59:55.280
<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for doing this, John Kelly, thank you for

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:01.120
<v Speaker 1>doing it this, Thank so for coming on in. I

1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:04.920
<v Speaker 1>think Kelly added such an important dimension, and it's really

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:09.160
<v Speaker 1>nice for me to witness your friendship and how much

1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you love each other and mean to each other, and

1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you tell each other that and leave

1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:15.600
<v Speaker 1>nothing unsaid.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you Ken, I love you brother.

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