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Speaker 1: And welcome to the latest edition a Big Blue Kickoff

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Speaker 1: live here on Giants dot com. Could to be with

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Speaker 1: you for the next sixty minutes. Two zero one five

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Speaker 1: one three is the telephone number. You can also interact

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Speaker 1: with us on Twitter hashtag Giants Chatty is Jeff Fiegel's

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Speaker 1: I'm Lance Meadow. We'll get to your phone calls to

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Speaker 1: get to your tweets will get you set for the

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Speaker 1: third preseason game, which is gonna be tomorrow night. The

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Speaker 1: Giants have already left. They are in route to Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: to go up against the Bengals. And whenever we hear

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Speaker 1: about the third preseason game, Jeff the dress rehearsal freeze

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Speaker 1: is always back at the forefront, all right here. It is.

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Speaker 1: This is his closest to the regular season that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get. We're gonna see the starters more so than

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Speaker 1: we've seen in the first two games. It is, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there is a validity behind I don't like

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Speaker 1: I I don't like the word dress rehearsal because it's

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Speaker 1: not it's really not. There's no game planning, there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's just you're gonna play a little bit more than

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Speaker 1: you have before, and really The big thing with the

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Speaker 1: third preseason game is trying to get the starters as

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Speaker 1: many as you can to come out of halftime. Just

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Speaker 1: get used to that transition of going in for twelve

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Speaker 1: minutes and coming back out and and you know, go

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Speaker 1: through through the game prep and and get you out

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Speaker 1: of there. But um, you know, we do not know

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Speaker 1: who's gonna play. We don't. We haven't been told how

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Speaker 1: how much Eli Man he's gonna play. He's obviously gonna

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Speaker 1: play a little bit more than he has in the

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Speaker 1: last two games, but I don't I don't anticipate him

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Speaker 1: playing much more than that. I think that ultimately you

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Speaker 1: want to get Daniel Jones in there with the number

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Speaker 1: one group, and this is gonna be a great opportunity

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Speaker 1: for him, an extended play situation. And really would like

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Speaker 1: to see maybe Daniel Jones be the guy that goes

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Speaker 1: in at halftime and comes back out into the third quarter,

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Speaker 1: because that would be the first time he's ever done

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Speaker 1: that in the National Football League, and he'll have to

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Speaker 1: get used to something like that for the time when

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Speaker 1: he when it is his time to play. So um, defensively,

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Speaker 1: are out there with this defense and most importantly the

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Speaker 1: pass rush. I think that last week that the team

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Speaker 1: got a little bit of some pass rush. Um, but

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Speaker 1: I think these are some of the things you're gonna

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Speaker 1: look at in the third preseason game with that defense,

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Speaker 1: they've got to play and communicate a little bit better

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Speaker 1: than they have in the last couple of weeks. And um,

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Speaker 1: I still think that the defense is one of the

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Speaker 1: areas that we have to look at this team that's

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Speaker 1: maybe gonna hold them back more than going forward, because

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Speaker 1: the offense certainly has done their job is scoring some

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Speaker 1: points the last couple of weeks. So yeah, the offense

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Speaker 1: has been productive when you look at no matter who

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Speaker 1: the quarterback is, Jeff nine scoring drives that the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: as a group have orchestrated six touchdowns one interception. The

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks combined, they're completing about seventy of their passes. So

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Speaker 1: you know this is not to say, oh, it's against

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Speaker 1: It's just if you just look at productivity. Who's ever

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Speaker 1: been in they've been able to move to football and

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Speaker 1: more often than not, they've been able to find the

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Speaker 1: end zone. So that's encouraging. Now you want to see

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Speaker 1: maybe if there's that game on the defensive side of things,

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Speaker 1: where to your point, you're getting that pass rush going,

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Speaker 1: you're disrupting the quarterback, not necessarily sacks. What if you

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Speaker 1: see a hit on the quarterback, you see a loose

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Speaker 1: ball and opportunistic play. I think that would be probably

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Speaker 1: the next step for the defensive unit. Yeah. Pressure, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the preseason as as far as offensively is not turning

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Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of interceptions, hasn't been a lot

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Speaker 1: win some games next year or this year, excuse me.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens there. But the third preseason game, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and um, it's already here that third preseason game. At

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Speaker 1: but now it's here, and you're getting excited because September

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Speaker 1: it means we're that much closer to week one, which

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Speaker 1: is probably the pest news of all when you look

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Speaker 1: at the fact that finally the third preseason game has arrived,

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Speaker 1: and you're right, I think the starters going to this

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Speaker 1: game knowing, all right, this is really gonna be my

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Speaker 1: last tune up, Jeff before we put the pads on again.

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Speaker 1: Four reel and the result counts. And also it's an

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Speaker 1: opportunity for some of the guys that are still fighting

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Speaker 1: are gonna go down to the wire to know, Hey,

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Speaker 1: if I can continue to show that I can go

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Speaker 1: that I did in the previous games, all it's gonna

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Speaker 1: do is for service more evidence to show the coaching

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Speaker 1: guy that maybe a erratic or may just provide a

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Speaker 1: this even goes for some of the veterans. If you will,

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Speaker 1: veteran is a guy that's played for you know, basically

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Speaker 1: evaluation process all the way down to the end. I

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Speaker 1: will tell you this, even after that fifty that ninety

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Speaker 1: cutdown date from fifty three, if you're a guy that's

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Speaker 1: practice squads, guys start clearing waivers. Um. There's also all

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Speaker 1: There might be a wide receiver out there that falls

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go get this guy. And then there's a

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Speaker 1: pecking order, of course, because the waiver, the waiver situation,

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Speaker 1: it's either week two or week thought. It then turns

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Speaker 1: to the actual standing exactly. So, so the Giants are

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Speaker 1: training camp and the beginning of the season as far

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Speaker 1: as the waiver wire and the claims, And we talked

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Speaker 1: good thing to look at. Once the season, the ninety

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Speaker 1: beyond your computer, because teams are gonna be wheeling and dealing,

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Speaker 1: and but the Giants are at number three, right, number six, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: after week three of the regular season, after we turns

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Speaker 1: that's actually the two players are Antonio Hamilton's and Spencer Pole.

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Speaker 1: to two thousand sixteen, Jeff, and I just looked this

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Speaker 1: Jasper Brinkley, Jeff, right, you survive the cuts. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: And they want an extra quarterback. So that's the point

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Speaker 1: he made the fifty three and then they make six

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Speaker 1: So nobody should feel secure veteran or first year play.

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Speaker 1: And the only if you wednesdays of the day at

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Speaker 1: Wednesday at four o'clock, if you're on the roster and

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Speaker 1: get to that point. If you get to that point

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Speaker 1: Ketvill cut me on Thursday, will you so I can

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Speaker 1: at least get one seventeenth to five thousand dollars, you know,

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Speaker 1: got a couple of free free lunches and breakfasts. But

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the way that it was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: in you know, the old cliche trying to put the

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Speaker 1: tooth based back in the in the ball, right, So

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Speaker 1: that's good luck with that good luck with that cause. Well,

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Speaker 1: he did put a comment on Instagram where he clarified

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Speaker 1: what he thought was just a narrative where people were

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Speaker 1: taking to one quote and running with it, and I

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Speaker 1: think there was some legitimacy to his point. This is

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Speaker 1: my advice if anybody is interested, read the entire article

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Speaker 1: and then give your own judgment and have your own opinion.

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Speaker 1: But you said that before there was another article that

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Speaker 1: came out. Yeah, well had a g Q profile too,

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Speaker 1: And my response was read the article, then form your

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Speaker 1: own opinions and judgments as opposed to using somebody else's

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Speaker 1: judgment off of one ramp up quote. That's right, that's

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Speaker 1: the best way to go about it. And also, at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, people can go back and

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Speaker 1: forth over articles. It doesn't impact w's and l's, so

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Speaker 1: why consume yourself with something that's not going to impact

446
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Speaker 1: the giants? And also for Cleveland's sake, they still got

447
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Speaker 1: to go out and win football games, just giants do.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing too is that g Q has

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Speaker 1: to sell magazines, so you have to always look at

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Speaker 1: the other side of it too, and why some of

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Speaker 1: these media guys do what they do. And we've We've

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Speaker 1: talked about this on our program before. Lances that they

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Speaker 1: have to write the articles because their their bosses are

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Speaker 1: telling them to go and do it. They've got to

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Speaker 1: have they have to ask the tough questions and they've

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Speaker 1: got to be you know, they gotta have some dirty laundry.

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Speaker 1: That's what sells newspapers and magazines and nowadays internet articles.

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Speaker 1: And you sign up, you pay your ten dollars to

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Speaker 1: get the articles, and you know it's just crazy. The

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Speaker 1: whole nine yards nine and a half yards nine and

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Speaker 1: a half yards, all right, I'll make the ad judgment

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Speaker 1: in terms of the measuring stick two zero one three

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Speaker 1: hashtag giants Chat, Let's en up the lines. Cam is

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Speaker 1: in Charleston, South Carolina. He gets us going on Wednesdays

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Speaker 1: that they should a big blue kick off life. What's

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Speaker 1: happened to camp? Hey, guys, actually the name is Tim.

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Speaker 1: Like Tim and say okay, well, welcome trans Lands and

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Speaker 1: Jeff I got I've got a comment and maybe somewhat

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Speaker 1: bold prediction I'd like your feedback on, and then a

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Speaker 1: straight out question. The first comment is going back to

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Speaker 1: something you guys had written about a while ago, is

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Speaker 1: you know the Giants record in the division, I think

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Speaker 1: is he's going to be the most critical aspect of it.

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Speaker 1: Whatever happens outside the division is going to happen. But

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Speaker 1: you know, if we go to and four in the division,

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Speaker 1: you're not winning the division. You're on the outside looking

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Speaker 1: in at a at a wild card. If you go

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Speaker 1: three and three, you got a slim chance to winning

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Speaker 1: the division. You might be for a wild card. And

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Speaker 1: obviously if you go four and two, you should be

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Speaker 1: able to win the division and a wild card should

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Speaker 1: be locked a lock now. And the only way to

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Speaker 1: do that is, of course, not get swept by anybody. Um,

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Speaker 1: which means we've got to win one name against the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and then we've got to be able to split against

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and we've got to be able to sweep

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Speaker 1: the Redskins, and worst case scenarios, split against everybody. But

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping we could sweep the Skins and do that.

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Speaker 1: So do you want me to go all through or

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Speaker 1: do you want to take one at the time? Well,

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Speaker 1: where are we going with this? I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: understand your point about you need to go for I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get your feedback on that in terms of

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Speaker 1: how I think spot on. I think you're spot on

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Speaker 1: with four and two in the division. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where the I mean where the Redskins are. If you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get get two out of the Redskins, or maybe

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Speaker 1: you get lucky and get two out of the I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It's just somehow, some way manufacture four in

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Speaker 1: the division. I think you've got a great chance to

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Speaker 1: get into the playoffs at four and two is the

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Speaker 1: best road to put yourself in a potition to win

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Speaker 1: the division, which therefore positions yourself to get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have been hovering around that five hundred and

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Speaker 1: below mark with the division over the last few seasons,

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Speaker 1: with the exception of sixteen, and that's why it's been

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Speaker 1: very difficult for them to even toy with knocking the

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Speaker 1: door down to get into the playoffs. But don't overlook

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Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins and and act as if those are

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Speaker 1: gimme games despite the fact that maybe they haven't solidified

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Speaker 1: their quarterback position. They've got a good defense, they've got

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Speaker 1: a good running games of years is healthy, correct, So

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to hear anybody say about

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Speaker 1: how the Redskin and this goes through the Eagles and

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys too. The Redskins, to me is the pesky

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Speaker 1: team in this division, chef, and I feel as if

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Speaker 1: everybody's just penciling them into the bottom feeders in the division.

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Speaker 1: And I have a funny feeling they are going to

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Speaker 1: surprise some people. Not saying they get into the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but they're gonna be a very tough out. I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of the other teams are talking about the

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Speaker 1: Giants in the same way. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: that's fair in terms of being a tough out, meaning,

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't just all of a sudden feel

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Speaker 1: as if you're gonna get a split automatically with this corvision. Yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: what was your next one? Alright? The next one is

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Speaker 1: sort of I don't know how bold it is, but

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Speaker 1: a prediction on sacks with the Giants, and the way

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Speaker 1: I break it down is sort of my precosition groups.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going with it with the backs, with all

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Speaker 1: the Batcher's schemes and and assuming he's able to implement them,

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Speaker 1: because they come around five to seven sacks out of

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Speaker 1: the d backs, maybe um tend to twelve out of

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Speaker 1: the the edge rushers. I'm sorry to twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: out of the edge rushers and outside linebackers and maybe

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Speaker 1: tend to twelve out of the down lineman, which I

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Speaker 1: think puts us at like a thirty five to forty

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Speaker 1: two range, which I think at the lower end is

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Speaker 1: acceptable compared to where we've been, and at the higher end,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll put us, you know, definitely in the upper

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Speaker 1: echel on in the league. So I wanted I wanted

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Speaker 1: your feedback when whether you thought that was possible before

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Speaker 1: it gets by a question? M Well, collectively, last year,

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Speaker 1: the Giants lance is gonna find it? I was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was guessing for thirty second words mark in the

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Speaker 1: NFL okay, So automatically we know we have to improve

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Speaker 1: on that to kind of hit your goal, and your

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Speaker 1: goal it was thirty what was it, thirty two to

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Speaker 1: five to seven defensive backs, rushers and tend to twelve

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Speaker 1: down linement. Right, I don't know where they're gonna come from,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna try to hit on the

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Speaker 1: on the big number. I think that the Giants will

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Speaker 1: get more than they did last season because I think

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Speaker 1: of Dexter Lawrence, and I also think of b J. Hill,

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Speaker 1: who Murmur Dexter Lawrence is gonna get a lot more

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Speaker 1: attention than b J. Hillis. And just because you know

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Speaker 1: he's gonna that's gonna free b J Hill up just

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. I think there's gonna be and

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Speaker 1: I said this before, I believe there will be more

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Speaker 1: sacks from the defensive tackle position, Okay, the defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: then the outside linebackers this season. That's just my bold prediction.

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Speaker 1: We can put that on the board. Um, but who knows.

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Speaker 1: I hope, I hope that I hope I'm wrong because

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Speaker 1: I really would love to see those outside linebackers, you know,

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Speaker 1: Kareem Martin and Zoe Carter, those guys can get some

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Speaker 1: get some sacks. I mean, Joreal Peppers is gonna get

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Speaker 1: a share of sacks. You know that because he's a

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Speaker 1: box safety. He'll be down in there. Betcher will use

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Speaker 1: him all over the place. So you know, I think

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Speaker 1: that's what about you, Lanch, You're thinking, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna go as high as in the forties.

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Speaker 1: I'm a bit skeptical. And what I was gonna counter

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Speaker 1: to Tim's point is the numbers that I've thrown out

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Speaker 1: sometimes on this program. I mean, in order tim for

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Speaker 1: you to get into that forty ballpark, and I know

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Speaker 1: you said thirty five to forty. You're basically saying that

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Speaker 1: there are numerous guys on this roster that I have

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Speaker 1: to have career years. Let's face it, here's here's the

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Speaker 1: breakdown right now of the Giants. I only have the

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Speaker 1: front seven because you know, to me, the cornerbacks and

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Speaker 1: safeties getting sacks with the exception of Peppers a bit flukey.

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Speaker 1: I mean to say that Antoine Bethet is gonna wind

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Speaker 1: up with like four or five sacks, I think is

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Speaker 1: an extreme bold prediction. So here's the front seven. They

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Speaker 1: have twenty four front seven players on the roster right now.

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Speaker 1: All twenty four of those guys have combined for fifty

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Speaker 1: three and a half career sacks. Fifty three and a

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Speaker 1: half over the course of their career. Ten of those

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Speaker 1: twenty four players account for thirty four and a half

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Speaker 1: of those sacks. Just ten guys account for thirty four

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Speaker 1: and a half. You know who makes up the rest,

592
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Speaker 1: Marcus Golden, who has nineteen and oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: twelve one of them came in one season. You brought

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Speaker 1: up b J. Hill. B J. Hill had five and

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Speaker 1: a half last year, he had three and one game.

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Speaker 1: This is not to be a Debbie downer. This is

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Speaker 1: just the facts. This is reality now. Could a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys have career years? Jeff, absolutely, But the numbers

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Speaker 1: that I'm seeing right now in terms of track record

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Speaker 1: does not necessarily add up with a number that's gonna

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Speaker 1: put them in that forty ballpark. They get forty, though,

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Speaker 1: that means that guys are gonna have career years. And

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Speaker 1: I think to your point, Jeff, it means somebody like

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Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence and Lorenzo Carter. Carter had four last year,

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Speaker 1: they're really going to take their games to the next

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Speaker 1: level as young up and coming players. That's what would

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Speaker 1: have to Yeah, you know, I mean I think that

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Speaker 1: your scheme, you know, should add something to it. We've

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Speaker 1: got more depths in overall. I believe quality on the

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Speaker 1: on the defense, you know, barring you know, rast of injuries.

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Speaker 1: But let me let me get well, but but tim, Tim,

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Speaker 1: let me let me just pick let me yeah, let

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Speaker 1: me just pay you back off of your point with

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Speaker 1: respect to the scheme, and then we will let you

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Speaker 1: continue keep in mind, when James Betcher was in Arizona,

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Speaker 1: he had Chandler Jones who was brought over from the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and Chandler Jones is a legitimate double digit Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: sack guy. So my point is we haven't seen James

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Speaker 1: Betcher's defense because last year he had Vernon and Vernon

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Speaker 1: led the way with seven. We have yet to see

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Speaker 1: that scheme without one guy who absolutely draws attention. That's

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Speaker 1: what I think makes the dynamics a little bit different

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Speaker 1: this year compared to what you may point to he

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Speaker 1: did in Arizona as well as his first year here

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Speaker 1: with the Giants. And I'll let you continue. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean part of that is I just think that

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Speaker 1: you know, with with the ability to do cornerback and

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Speaker 1: safety blisses, I think that was kind of out of

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Speaker 1: the almost out of the game plan last year because

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Speaker 1: the depths back there in the quality and the and

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Speaker 1: the just the sheer level of mistakes that were made,

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Speaker 1: you know, by the defense throughout the year, it didn't

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Speaker 1: allow him to do any of that. So that's where

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Speaker 1: I'm coming up with a whole five to seven sex

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Speaker 1: for the de Fenser back. But but to the question,

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Speaker 1: I have is about the secondary, and given we've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of young players in the secondary, even including

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Speaker 1: Julius Peppers who's just a third year guy. The question

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Speaker 1: I have is, I feel like, you know, like the

640
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Speaker 1: office this last year, the first half was invisible with

641
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: the offensive client and once that's sort of coalesce, the

642
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: second half was much better. And this year, of course,

643
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: with the young guys. You said it, I think we

644
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: all expect there's going to be some glaring mistakes at

645
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year before they coalesce. So, barring

646
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: again a rash of injuries which serves everything out the window,

647
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: how how long do you think that it will take

648
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: for them to start to to shed those scales off

649
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: their back, you know, and start to be more cohesive

650
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: as a unit. Is it four games? Is a six

651
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: games after the Patriots before I'm trying to get you know,

652
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: just I'm trying to get your opinion on how how

653
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: far into the season we can expect this group to

654
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: start coming together so we really get a feel for

655
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: what we've got in terms of quality. All right, Tim,

656
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: and we'll answer that question. We'll let you go on

657
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: that note. Appreciate the phone call. That's a tough question.

658
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's all, you know, it's hard

659
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: to tell. I mean, I think that James Betcher and

660
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: that defensive coaching staff is hoping that some of the

661
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: personnel that's on this team now is ahead of the

662
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: curve as far as when it comes to schemes and

663
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: things that Jim Betcher's doing. So I think that might

664
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: help the matturation, if you will, of this defense quicker

665
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: than than slower. So I don't know, maybe a few games,

666
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: two or three. I don't want to sit here and

667
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: say that it's gonna be half the season because we

668
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: saw what happened last year and we were excited about

669
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: the offensive production they had in the second half of

670
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: the season, but we had to go through the first

671
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: half to get to that. I don't want to have

672
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: to see that happen because I feel the defense is

673
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: gonna have to play well for this team to continue

674
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: to be good, because they're gonna be good on offense.

675
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: But let me just tell you something, if this defense

676
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: lets the team down, you know the narrative and where

677
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm going with it, and it's gonna happen. If the

678
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: team is not winning football games, you're gonna see Daniel

679
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: Jones in the picture. Okay. For those Eli Manning fans

680
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: like myself, I don't want to see that, Okay. I

681
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: want to see Eli play out the season. I want

682
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: to see him have a good year. I want to

683
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: have the Giants have a good year. And we'll see

684
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: what happens with Eli Manning later. But this defense is

685
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: all part of the it's it's part of the solution

686
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: in my sense, to get Eli Manning to finish out

687
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: the season. They've got a play well, they really do.

688
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: Eli has to perform on an individual basis, and the

689
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: team needs to stay within the playoff hunt. I mean

690
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: that to me is the big thing, and it goes

691
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: back to his and his point is what stay in

692
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: the division. Your your easiest way into the playoffs is

693
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: going to be that division. So let's keep our eyes

694
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: on that division and let's take those games seriously. You

695
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: got the first one of the year on the road

696
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: in Dallas, where you know, the Giants used to be

697
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: able to go down to Dallas and win. They can't

698
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: do that anymore, and Dallas can't come here and win.

699
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: So maybe the tide turns again. Who we'll see, but

700
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: it would be nice for the Giants to get off

701
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: to a good start and win. And who knows will

702
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: Elliott be on the team, then, I don't know who knows,

703
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: So I mean that's that's probably that's a good sign.

704
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: If he's not, that's a good sign that the Giants

705
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: have an advantage there a little bit. It's my opinion. Well,

706
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Two of their first four games are

707
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: within the division. There you go a boys week on

708
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: in the Redskins week four, one game is on the road,

709
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: one game is at home. If you want to look

710
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: at the importance of the first four games, it goes

711
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: without saying you gotta take care of business against Dallas

712
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: in Washington. Doesn't mean that you can afford to slip

713
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: up against Buffalo and Tampa Bay. But to your point,

714
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: if you want to stay in that driver's seat being

715
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: within the playoff conversation, the best way to go about

716
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: doing that is to win your divisional games. You lose

717
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: those divisional games, you know, then all of a sudden,

718
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: it starts to create distance between yourself and the rest

719
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: of the divisional foes. And if you're the Giants, you

720
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: do not want that space to enlarge. In the first

721
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: quarter of the seat. You can't do it, you really can,

722
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: because then you gotta play catch up. You play catch up,

723
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: and you know what, you don't want to play catch up.

724
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: And that's hard to do because it changes your philosophy

725
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: a lot of times and how to win and try

726
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: to win football games with if you're playing catch up

727
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: one at a time, winning your division, okay, and when

728
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: your division and I gets you in, all right? You

729
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: know the big the big thing about football is you

730
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: want to win all your games at home and split

731
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: on the road, all right. That that's kind of the goal, um,

732
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: and that gives you twelve and four war which is

733
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: a heck of the season. Now, are the Giants gonna

734
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: be twelve and four? I don't know, Probably not. But

735
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: you want to win four of those division games out

736
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: of six, that's for sure, so that you're forward too,

737
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: and you don't have to worry about whether or not

738
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna be enough to get you in because four

739
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: and to territory usually indicates a positive development in terms

740
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: of your outlook for the division. And I'll tell you what.

741
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: At four and two in the division, and you and

742
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna win the division at four and two I'm

743
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: pretty sure you're probably gonna win the division at four

744
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: and two. There might be maybe not. Well, there was

745
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: one year where a three and three team and I

746
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: think it may have been the Giants who were three

747
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: and three and end up winning the division. But it's

748
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: very rare and I'll try to look through some of

749
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: the recent standings. But as far as the the outlook

750
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: for the Giants, even if they didn't win the division

751
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: at four and two, you're probably sitting pretty good at

752
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: a wild card to get in in your division. Um.

753
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: But from the from the the point of like where

754
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: this team is going, that's got to be a pretty

755
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: good idea that Dave Gentleman and half has is doing

756
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: a nice job with this team and they're moving in

757
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: the right direction. All right. We can't tell that right

758
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: now because we haven't put on ben't played for real

759
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: yet and you know, Evan Ingram has not even in

760
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: se Kwana, have not even been in the lineup. And

761
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: this offense is doing pretty well. There's a lot of

762
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: guys that aren't playing that are this team doing pretty well.

763
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: The biggest thing for me is is depth, and we've

764
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: discussed it a lot. As far as this team has

765
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: gotten so much better at depth all the way around

766
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: from soup the nuts. Okay, including the quarterback position, which

767
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: is a good thing to have. But I think that

768
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: that is going to determine how this team plays going forward,

769
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: because you always have injuries, and if you have some

770
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: good players and good young players behind them, which the

771
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: Giants do, and these guys are getting developed and they

772
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: can play, this is going to give you a good

773
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: chance to try to win your division or even get

774
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: three or four wins in the division. Last year, the

775
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: Cowboys were five and one the Eagles were four and two.

776
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: Both teams went onto the playoffs. However, two thousand seventeen,

777
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: Eagles and Cowboys are both five and one. The was

778
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: won the division. The Cowboys didn't even make the playoffs.

779
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: They went nine and seven. Now, Zeke was suspended six

780
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: games that year, but they still ran the ball effectively.

781
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: And here's my other point, and this is why I

782
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: shy away from it's a lock, because you still need

783
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: to take care of business in your non divisional games.

784
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: For example, you know, Dallas was five and one in

785
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: the division, but they didn't won nine games. That means

786
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: they won four games outside of their sixth division, and

787
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: how many and and and listen, I'm sure that the NFC, Okay,

788
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: that the NFC opponents came into effect of them not

789
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: making the playoff. So yeah, I mean, and you look

790
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: at the first four games on their schedule, Okay, two

791
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: of them, three of them are in the NFC because okay,

792
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: you got Champa and then Washington. Okay, so yeah, and

793
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: that's why you can't just say this game counts more

794
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: than that one, because they all add up, and you're

795
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: not only playing six games to get into your to

796
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. And yeah, there's a sixteen game schedule,

797
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: so about the other ten you got. But with respect

798
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: to the caller's quest about you know, how long is

799
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: it gonna take for this team to click, it's almost

800
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: impossible to really give you a firm answer. But I

801
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: think on paper, Betcher's got more players that are comfortable

802
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: with the scheme, correct, because of the fact that there's

803
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: a number of guys that were here last year. And

804
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: then he brings in Befet, he brings in Golden, he

805
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: brings in Pierre. All three of them were with him

806
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: in Arizona, so that should help. Then as far as

807
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: the offense, goes. You brought into veteran offensive lineman to

808
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: play the right side, and veteran offensive linem a little

809
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: bit easier for them to adjust. But you know, to me,

810
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: the question is going to be, all right, Golden Tate's

811
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: miss in the first four games, Jeff, So with Tate

812
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: out of the lineup, do you get the productivity that

813
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: you need? And so far, so good in the preseason

814
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: from the Lattimer's, the Benny Fowler's, if t J. Jones

815
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: makes the team and can that group together not necessarily

816
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: one player individual, can that group together fill the void

817
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: left behind by not having Golden Tate on the field.

818
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 1: That I think will also tell a lot about where

819
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: the offense is going to be four or five games

820
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: into the season. But I also feel like we we

821
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: know what's coming um with O'Dell gone and say, Kwan,

822
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: now the guy, uh, there's gonna be eight nine guys

823
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: in that box, and they're gonna challenge the Giants offense

824
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: to you know, throw the ball outside of ten yards

825
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: and they should. And you know this is when we're

826
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: gonna see this, this new arm strength of Eli Manning.

827
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be able to get the ball outside

828
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: the numbers for a fifteen yard throw um from that pocket?

829
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: Can he do that? We know Daniel Jones has got

830
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: the arm to do it. Can Elie still do it?

831
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: And that's what they're gonna challenge this offense to do,

832
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: which now brings up the idea that you know what,

833
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: you gotta have a healthy Evan Ingram this season to

834
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: stay healthy so that he can stretch, to feel a

835
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: little in the middle of that field, take a little

836
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: pressure off of that offense. And then you've got to

837
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: find a guy that can stretch the field. Now, who

838
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: is that guy? I don't know. I mean, Sterling Shepherd's

839
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: pretty quick, but he's not that fast. Um is it

840
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: Darius Slayton get healthy? Um? Is it out of here?

841
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. But shows flashes, yeah, I

842
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: mean he does catch a good deep ball. And but

843
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: those are some of the Those are kind of some

844
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: of the challenges that this Giant's offense is going to

845
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: be put up against this season until they can prove

846
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: that they can throw the ball around the field all

847
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: over the place and and use play action and use

848
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: the running game. Okay, because that's you and the big

849
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: thing about this offense, this offense will run well, it

850
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: will go well if you do not get those negative

851
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: plays like they had last season at the first seven

852
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: games of the year. Those negative plays put you in

853
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: such a bad position play calling, okay, execution, get positive

854
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: yards on first and second down, and then you open

855
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: the playbook up a little bit and you and then

856
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: you are not at a disadvantage anymore where normally you are.

857
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: They were not a very good team on start down

858
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: last year, so that's a reflection of what you do

859
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: on first and second down. Let's head back to the

860
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: phone lines and we check in with Scott in New Mexico. Scott,

861
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Blue Kickoff Live. What do you have

862
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: for us? Hey, guys, how are you doing today? Alluding

863
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: to the conversation and you've been having? Uh? Last year,

864
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: I was heavily invested in the Giants uh, and thought,

865
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: unfortunately there were no weaknesses in the Giants unit. And

866
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: I think I was on with you, Lance, and Lance

867
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: you politely told me that I was entitled to my opinion,

868
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: which is a kind of a great euphemism for saying

869
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: I was out of my mind for thinking that, And

870
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: you were right, there were obviously weaknesses on the Giants,

871
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: But as I go into this season this year, I

872
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm looking at fool's goat or actual

873
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: and sort of club sort of mirrors the conversations you've

874
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: been having on a number of different areas. Uh, it

875
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be continuity yet because to your points,

876
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Sequan and Evaningram haven't been on the field. You've

877
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: seen limited practices with the starting unit, the defenses they're

878
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: facing have only been on the field for a few minutes.

879
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: So my question is sort of a broad one. How

880
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: do you really separate the fantasy from the reality. Because

881
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: I want to get heavily invested in the Giants this year,

882
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: and they look better on paper, but you don't prove

883
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: anything if you actually go into a game and you

884
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: have game results. And so am I looking at this

885
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: myopically and saying, yeah, the Giants look really good because

886
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: I watched them in their first preseason game, and obviously

887
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: the secondary, which has been touted, it looked like they

888
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: were making mistakes, et cetera, which is normal in preseason,

889
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: but the preseason itself is vanilla. So as all of

890
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: you have said, so what am I actually looking at?

891
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: Because the Power rankings just came out from NFL Network

892
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: and they ranked the Giants. Now I don't know how

893
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: what foundation they used to rank teams, but again, the

894
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: Giants were ranked twenty eight, So it was a little

895
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: disconcerting to see that. And I'm wondering how a Giant fan,

896
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: no matter what your intent is, how do they actually

897
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: look at a team. Do they really have to wait

898
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: to the first season, a first game takes place, and

899
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: then make evaluations at that, because I think it's very

900
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: difficult to do even in this game coming up, where

901
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: you're going to have only a half of football, basically

902
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: what the starters? How do you really make evaluations? And

903
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: then I have a second point, but I wanted to

904
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: sort of get your opinion on that. Well. I think

905
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: it's a great question. I mean, my answer is I

906
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: need to see the first four games of the regular season.

907
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: I've got to see a quarter of the season before

908
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: I really get a good field for teams, because I

909
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: don't even think after the first game you truly know

910
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: what you're looking at. I think the preseason is good

911
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: to check out some of the individuals. I don't really

912
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: take a whole lot away from what the team's gonna

913
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: do based on preseason productivity. I mean, as great as

914
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: the offensive production was Jeff in the last game, Leonard

915
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: Floyd wasn't out there, Khalil Mack wasn't out there, So

916
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: why should I get ultra excited and why should I

917
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: try to present to your points got fool's gold. So

918
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: after the first four games of the season that I

919
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: think we got a few more things to talk about

920
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: as far as power rankings are concerned, Scott, I'm the

921
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: last person that really care is about what someone the outlet.

922
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: And it's not to say that I don't think that

923
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: they know what they're talking about with respect to the Giants.

924
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: It's just when somebody can explain to me how somebody's

925
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: power rankings accurately portrayed what happened in the regular season,

926
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: then I will actually put stock in power rankings. I

927
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: think it's a fun game for us all to play,

928
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: so we have something to converse about. At the end

929
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: of the day. Power rankings mean nothing. At the end

930
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: of the day, I'll tell you what power rankings mean.

931
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: They really they really tick some people off. Okay, and

932
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: not only do that, and basically coaches and players and

933
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: I remember years ago when Tom Coughlin used to he

934
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: used to use those to our advantage and we would

935
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: be at a at A twenty nine or thirty whatever

936
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: it was that he brought that up to us and said, listen,

937
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: are you guys really the worst team in the league?

938
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: You know? And every year and every time we kept winning,

939
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: that those power rankings to come up, and that was

940
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: a motivating factor for the guys and the team. That's

941
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: all that I look at it as. Yeah. Also my

942
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: last point and I'll take it off. The or UH

943
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: concerns two players. One is Darius Slayton and the other

944
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: is Sam Beale. In the press conference that Pat Shermer had,

945
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: he was worried that Sam Bale, because of the injury,

946
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: potentially may not make the starting fifty three. UH. If

947
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: that's the case, would he be relegated to the practice

948
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: squad as a possibility because he's obviously a valuable pick,

949
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: even supplemental his third round. And then the other question

950
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 1: I had deals with Darius Slayton since just coming back now,

951
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: I was impressed with what Alonso Russell has done. And

952
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: do those two guys compete for the same position because

953
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: they look potentially similar, I think, and probably speed factor

954
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: Alonso chasing that guy down to demonstrate how fast he was,

955
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: and so I was just curious, since they're going to

956
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: have a limited number of positions available for the starting

957
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: wide receivers, how those guys would do. So the Sam

958
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: Bail question also Alonzo Russell versus Darius Slayton. Yeah, you guys,

959
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: Scott appreciate the phone call. Thanks for chiming in. With

960
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: respect to the response by Pat Shermer about Sam Beale,

961
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would categorize it the way

962
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: that Scott put it. The question that was asked to

963
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer, and I believe it was right at the

964
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: beginning of the press conference, if memory serves me correct.

965
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: Yesterday was the fact that Bill has missed so much time.

966
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Is it that much more difficult to evaluate him because

967
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: he hasn't really been on the practice field, he hasn't

968
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: been in the game situation because he didn't play last season.

969
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: And Pat Shermer said, we'll see because they just at

970
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: this point can't give a firm answer of when he's

971
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: going to be back. But maybe Sam Bill does play

972
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: in this next game. Maybe Sam Bill does play in

973
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: the fourth preseason game. So you know, I don't want

974
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: to speculate Jeff in terms of his legitimacy of making

975
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: the fifty three men Rodster, I will tell you this,

976
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: I find it very hard to believe that somebody that

977
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: was taken in the supplemental draft by the general manager

978
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: that is still running the team, that they would toy

979
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: with the idea of letting him go through waivers, because remember,

980
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: if he doesn't make the fifty three, he goes through

981
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: waivers and then maybe he gets back on the practice squad.

982
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: I just don't see them taking that chance. I think

983
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: if the injury is significant Jeff, and this is just

984
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: me speculating, maybe he starts off on I R and

985
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: then is a candidate to return. If they feel that

986
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: this hamstring injury is going to continue to linger, that

987
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: would be the route much more so than him not

988
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: making the no question, a third round supplemental pick, which,

989
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: by the way, the third round they thought was a

990
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: good was a good pick. Of course, that's why they sacrificed.

991
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: That's where they did because they thought him, they thought

992
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: him as being in the top fifty player coming out

993
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: of college. He just couldn't come out. So I think

994
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: that's where the value was there. So with you with

995
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: that in mind, you gotta do everything you can to

996
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: keep him on the roster and injured reserved one might

997
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: be the one with a return capability. Um, you can't

998
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: let him go. He will get picked up. And even

999
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: if you put him on the practice squad. You remember,

1000
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: just because you're on the practice squad doesn't mean that

1001
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: another team can't sign you. So that's that's not a

1002
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: total protection there. Both for players that you had mentioned.

1003
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: Now darry Slayton is the seventh round draft pick, borderline

1004
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: free agent sixth round. Um, so I you know, you

1005
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: gotta kind of think it is is a guy that

1006
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, if there's some that he may make it

1007
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: through waivers and being able to put him on the

1008
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: practice squad with the ability to bring him up and

1009
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: down because of the wide receiver position and how tender

1010
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: it can be with injuries and things like that. So

1011
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: I look at both those players sticking around to be

1012
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: honest with you, in some way, shape or form, in

1013
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: my opinion, with the injury now Darius Slayton, we we

1014
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: may see him play this week. I mean, I know

1015
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: the team would love to see him play. They'd like

1016
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: to see they'd like to see. Yeah, so I I

1017
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: would imagine he's gonna play this weekend or tomorrow and

1018
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: and look and see what he can do. He's been

1019
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: very impressive in practice, folks. He just unfortunately got set

1020
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: back a little bit with that injury. But you know

1021
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: coming out of the spring that the Giants coaches were very,

1022
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: very impressed with him and very high on him. Pat

1023
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: Shermer spoke extremely high about him. And then he got

1024
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: hurt and now he's back in the a little bit.

1025
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: So I guess that would try to answer your question.

1026
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: The fifth round pick, by the way, for Sladen Balantine

1027
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: was the sixth rounder. As the draft from this past year,

1028
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: it just becomes a thing of the past. I'm sorry.

1029
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: You know what I had it right here is number seven,

1030
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: but it was round Okay, see on your to do list?

1031
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: Was my bad? So that's on your list. One in

1032
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: the hearts and minds of Giants faces number five on

1033
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: the list draft he was. He was the seventh player

1034
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: taken by the Giant in the fifth round. Now we're

1035
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: providing some extra context, Okay, yes, because they had so

1036
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: it shows you I'm not out of my mind. No, well,

1037
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: I never thought that, and I don't want you to

1038
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: read between the lines of some of mine phrases here.

1039
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: In terms of Alonzo Russell, which was another part of

1040
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: that question, Russell has more size than anybody else on

1041
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: this roster, so good speed, right, He's got good speed,

1042
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: but he also has the size. So when it comes

1043
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: down to him versus Sladen, I don't really think it's

1044
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: him versus Slade, and I just think it's a matter

1045
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: of Okay, Golden Tate's gonna go on the suspense it's

1046
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: the numbers game. Yeah, and they'll have likely six guys

1047
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: that they're gonna keep. I'd be surprised that they don't

1048
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: keep six wide receivers. And you know, you could just

1049
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: play the numbers game, you know, Sterling Shepherd, Cody Lattimer,

1050
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: Benny Fowler, Russell Shephard. I think all four of those

1051
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: guys very good chance of making the team. Jeff definitely, okay.

1052
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: T J. Jones has certainly made a compression, right, and

1053
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: then you've got Russell and Slaton. Okay, I named five,

1054
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: and then on this hand, I've got two other guys,

1055
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: So Russell Slayden versus maybe t J. Jones is not

1056
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 1: necessarily a lock. I don't know. I mean, I think

1057
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: he's done enough to help his cause. Out of those

1058
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: three guys, they're fighting for two spots. That's how I

1059
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: see it, And and special teams comes into effect Russell

1060
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: of course if Alonzo Russell is a very good special

1061
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: teams player, and he's looked to improve in that department.

1062
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: By the way, because he was on the practice squad

1063
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: most of last season, he knew if he's gonna make

1064
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Speaker 1: the fifty three this year, he's gonna have to be

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Speaker 1: an impactful special team Okay, T J. Jones. We've seen

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00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: mixed results in terms of the return game, Jeff with

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00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: respect of special teams, and Slayden's got the capacity to return.

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00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: The problem is he's got to get out on the

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00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: field and show the team that he could do it

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00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: in the game. So that's why if he could play

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00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, there'd be a big step in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I think they're encouraged by

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Speaker 1: what he's done over practice since he returned that I

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00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: think there's a good chance he will be able to

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Speaker 1: suit up for the first I'm gonna give you something

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00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: if people are listening out here, kay want you to

1077
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: watch something tomorrow night. And this is very evident in

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00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: the third preseason game. It's almost like a cheat card

1079
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: or a cheat whatever they call those, a cheap coach.

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00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: Watch the first punt in the first quarter whatever. The

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00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: first punt is all right, look at the personnel on

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00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: the punt team and I will I would, I will

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00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: be willing to bet you the nine of those guys

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00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: on that punt team will be making man roster. You

1085
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: don't mess around with the punt team. It's the most

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00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: important one of the core fourth special teams. They don't

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00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: score around with the punt team. Those are your guys.

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00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: Third preseason game, first punt, Watch him take the numbers

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00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: down and tell me if I'm right or wrong. Come

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00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: the ninety cut down day. All right, the little game

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00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: will play that game, um, because I've been around it

1092
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: and I've been in that's that's been my team. That's

1093
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: been my team, and I remember, we don't mess around

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00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: with the punt team. Those guys have to be able

1095
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: to protect and cover, and you want your best special

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00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: teams core guys on that group. Those are the guys

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00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: that are going to be on the team. Two one

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Speaker 1: three hashtag Giants chat. John is in Freehold. Hi John,

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00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: welcome the Big Blue Kickoff Live. What do you have

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Speaker 1: for us? Hey, guys, that's a good Um. I just

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Speaker 1: I just want to tell you guys, you guys are awesome.

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Speaker 1: This is the best sports show that I listened to,

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00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: and I think the eight podcast All New York Sports

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00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: co Operating is the best content that there is. Well, Hn,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much. Um So, I just we just wanted

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Speaker 1: to maybe talking about some a little taboo. Um. The

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00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: future of the Giants with the team will look like

1108
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: maybe in three if in fact the players that the

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00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: Giants are grabbing right now and draft thing turn out

1110
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: to be who they think they are. Like se Quon

1111
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: Barkley obviously was everything that get him said he was

1112
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: going to be a tough fan of God, the whole thing.

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00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: If Daniel Jones is also that and he's able to

1114
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: keep building this offensive line, this offense in a couple

1115
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: of years once he's a veteran wants this team as

1116
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: a real team from the foundation up. This team could

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00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: really be like a real condenser for years and years

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00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: and years. You sistic as the Giants fan, all this

1119
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: negativity around the fan base for the last few months.

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Speaker 1: I mean if you're looking at it from that perspective,

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00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: it's hard not to be excited about the future of

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00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: the team. Sure, well, the way to build a competitive

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00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: team in today's NFL is to do it through the draft,

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00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: because once those guys have expiring rookie deals, you gotta

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Speaker 1: pay everybody. So if you look at for example, Dallas,

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00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: the Cowboys built their offensive line through the draft, then

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00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: they found Doc, they found Zeke. If the Giants can

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Speaker 1: do that to your point, where you continue to build

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, you hopefully found your quarterback of the future.

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00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: They rafted Sa Kwan. You add some young guys on defense,

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00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: which they've done that, you're right. If this core pans out,

1132
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: and that's the key part, you gotta get a return

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00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: on the draft picks. They do that, they're in a

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00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: good position to say, hey, we've orchestrated a nucleus that

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00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: we could keep together for years to come. I think

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00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: that's a fair assessment too. Yeah, awesome, Giants about the

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00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: season in the future. Thank you, Yeah, thanks for tuning

1138
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: into the program. We appreciate that. As we appreciate the kudos.

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00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 1: Let's go from John to Joe, who's in Pennsylvania. Joe,

1140
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: what's happening. Hey, what happened? I guess we we have

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00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: to be happy with. Well, you see from our giants

1142
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: so far the offense, the first offense and string line

1143
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: in the second. You know they've they've been good. That

1144
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 1: the running back, the white receivers, you know they've looked

1145
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: good and in the quarterbacks. And uh, when you were

1146
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: talking earlier to about Daniel Joan what they said about him,

1147
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, uh, just the way he goes about it.

1148
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: He's a gentleman and he go ahead, Joe, just getting

1149
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: directions for his next time. We didn't need to interrupt

1150
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: your dissertation there. Yes, he's a very busy man. You see.

1151
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: We can't wait to wrap up big Blue kickoff. It

1152
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: was no reflection. I apologize to that. I hit my

1153
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: waist button. Also the direction popped up. We have a

1154
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: producer that walks into the room to handle Jeff's phone.

1155
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: You should know that anyway. But anyway, what were you

1156
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: saying going back to you know the way Daniel handled that,

1157
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, as a gentleman. I think he's sort of

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00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: humbled the Cleveland's quarterback. You know, just just the way

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00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: he uh talked. There's a good comeback. But You really

1160
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: gotta love the way his ball placements are. Man, I

1161
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: am impressed by by that, you know, uh, handling it

1162
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: and you know, leading the running backs on the short

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00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: and the white receivers on the short passes that they

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00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: can run with it, and then dropping in them long balls. Man,

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Speaker 1: You've got to be impressed with that. That's that's for sure.

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00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: That that ain't something that's just fluky, you know. Uh

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00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: so uh and what use were Hopefully the defense can

1168
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: can come together. We're gonna be young, you know, and

1169
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: we can definitely have a lot of young studs there

1170
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: on that offensive line, and the cornerbacks are gonna have

1171
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: to come together with a lot of potential, and hopefully

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00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: we can get we can and have a pass rush,

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00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: you know. I think that's the biggest question. And when

1174
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: you were talking about the waiver line earlier, and that

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00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: one thing I think we we really could use if

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00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: we can get it that I'm a little whatever, there

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Speaker 1: is somebody back there returning the ball there if you

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Speaker 1: can get a fast guy there, because who bound time

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00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: and that's other wide receiver we have, you know what

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00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, no, well slight and he didn't get

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00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: in there. But t j Jones, I'm a little leary

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Speaker 1: of him back there so far. Well, but but but

1183
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: just just keep this in mind, Joe, and I've heard

1184
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: people talk about this on Twitter, and Jeff, certainly you

1185
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: have weighed in heavily on the return guys. Jabrill Peppers

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Speaker 1: is not getting any work back there, and he's going

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Speaker 1: to be in the mix, Okay, golden take when he

1188
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: comes back from his hold on Golden Well. But but

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Speaker 1: but the point is, I understand fans are evaluating what

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Speaker 1: they see in the preseason become the regular season. The

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00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: Giants that just don't want to wear down their starters

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00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: right now season you don't even know if you want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's what I'm saying. If you can get

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Speaker 1: a young, fast guy, you know, that's where we might

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Speaker 1: be able to pick it up off waivers, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and the starting right in there the first game,

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00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, there's a possibility the first the first game,

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00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Peppers, who you haven't been able to see.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be the primary return guy, and Lattimer will

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00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: be your kickoff return guys. They just don't want to

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00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: use them right now, so there's no reason in going

1202
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: out and getting another guy just because you haven't seen

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00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: enough what you've seen in the backups. So I think

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Speaker 1: that I think that, you know, t J. Jones is

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00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: a guy that's got to be able to hang on

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00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: to the football if he even makes the club, you know,

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00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: but you do have some depth there. But Peppers and

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Speaker 1: Latimer or your two guys. Valentine might be a guy

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Speaker 1: that he's going to be a backup return kickoff return guy.

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Speaker 1: And then you also got to remember Sterling Shepherd can

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Speaker 1: return punts. Okay, so they're not gonna put somebody back

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Speaker 1: there that's gonna give the ball back to the team

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00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: that just punted a tool. T J. Jones play enough

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Speaker 1: too much to be on the practice squad. Just yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about a guy that was on the Lions

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Speaker 1: for four to five years. Absolutely, there's no way, no

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Speaker 1: way he's eligible. Yeah. Well, but but that's you know,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not sure if I'm crazy about

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Speaker 1: putting Peppers back there, because he's gonna be hitting enough,

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Speaker 1: you know as a saifety you know the think. But Joe,

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Speaker 1: you know what this reminds me of. This reminds me

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00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: of the debate we had when Oldell Beckham was on

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Speaker 1: the team. Did the Steelers worry about putting Antonio Brown

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Speaker 1: back as a return guy? Yeah, well you get you

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00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: put your best players on the field. Yeah, well what

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00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: you gotta do. And appreciate the phone code, Joe, thanks

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00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: so much to miss the big city, like, but good

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Speaker 1: luck to him. Antonio Brown was the main return guy

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers, and Mike Tomlins philosophy was, Jeff, I've

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Speaker 1: got one of the best playmakers and all the football

1231
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him out there. He could get hurt

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00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: running a route as a wide receiver just as much

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Speaker 1: as he get hurt returning a punk. And and listen,

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Speaker 1: Peppers is a guy that can hold on to the football.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna make you some plays. You're gonna get some

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00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: exciting plays out of him. Is he gonna be the

1237
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: primary guy every single game? And he's not not gonna

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Speaker 1: be anybody else that returns kicks? Now, because I'm telling you,

1239
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: right now, Peppers is down the down the down the

1240
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Speaker 1: field on a nine route covering a receiver. He's there.

1241
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: Surely you're not gonna have him run back to the

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00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: middle of the field for a punk. They're gonna get

1243
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: him off put sterling. Shepardh's been on the on the

1244
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: floor on the sideline for the last you know, series

1245
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: would ever put him back out there? So it'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Just relax there. You know what's amazing to me, Jeff,

1247
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: your son's played high school for a ball you coached it.

1248
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: Do we ever debate the fact that the kid plays

1249
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver and then goes out for cornerback And does

1250
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: anybody say, you know what, I don't want to expose

1251
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: him to an injury. I'd rather keep him his wife.

1252
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: Why is it that in college, high school we see

1253
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: these guys interchangeable. You get to the NFL put bubble

1254
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: wrap around them, God forbid, we allow them to showcase

1255
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: their skill set. It's just it's amazing, and I think it,

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00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: and again I I agree with you, and I just do.

1257
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: But the front the fans perspective, they can do that.

1258
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: And the other thing is that they're just there. The

1259
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: game is fragile. They don't want to see their guys

1260
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: get hurt. But you know what, you also want to

1261
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: see him make plays right exactly, you want to make them.

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00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: You want to have your your star players out there

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00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: making place. Jabrill Peppers, Okay, He's not a dynamic he's

1264
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: not Devin Hester, okay, but he's gonna be pretty. He's

1265
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: gonna be fun to watch. He'll get you the ten

1266
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: or twelve yards. He might get you a negative tent

1267
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: once in a while, but he's gonna be a fun

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00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: guy to watch. So I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, obviously i've seen him catch puns of practice.

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Speaker 1: He's doing in a practice pols just like Sakwan. Barkley

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Speaker 1: is running routes and running and running the offense. They

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Speaker 1: just haven't been in the games yet, so we'll be

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Speaker 1: okay there. Let's get to a few tweets here, hashtag

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Speaker 1: giants chat drew at not sid Do you see Barkley

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Speaker 1: getting a few plays just to shake the rust off.

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Speaker 1: I think they're very content with what he's doing in practice, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, I don't I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. I don't. I don't think you. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he'll be in the game. Um. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you'll see you having ingram in the game. UM. I

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00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: think those guys are, as you the term you use

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00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: there in bubble wrap, They're they're wrapped in a box

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00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: somewhere and they take them out during practice. That's about it.

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Speaker 1: And then they put him back and they're like, we'll

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Speaker 1: ship you to Dallas and then we'll take your back.

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00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: They're like, they're like in a cold storage shed somewhere.

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Speaker 1: You knows handle with k That's right. Yeah. At A. J.

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Speaker 1: Marshall three, This question is specifically to a personal experience

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Speaker 1: for you, not not deep and uncovering the secrets. But

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Speaker 1: he said that he noticed you had a discussion with

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Speaker 1: Riley Dixon on the side my last preseason game. He

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Speaker 1: was asking if you want to share perhaps of listen,

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Speaker 1: the game has changed so much, the fact that they're

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Speaker 1: they're asking Riley Dixon to become a better directional punther. Okay.

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Speaker 1: And I've been helping him and trying to establish just

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Speaker 1: some some goals and some and just some things that

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Speaker 1: do on game day to help with that directional kick. Um.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of it has to do with confidence

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Speaker 1: and just practicing and believing in what you can do.

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01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: And and we've been working on some things, and you

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Speaker 1: know it, it came to fruition for him. And I

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Speaker 1: was down. I was coming from the press box down,

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Speaker 1: uh to walk around. I was actually in the stadium

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Speaker 1: going up to the press box, and I happened to

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Speaker 1: go by the field and I just had got lucky

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01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: that he had just and I was right there for

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Speaker 1: that kick and he nailed it. It It was a left

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01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: kick and you know, right at the at the right

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01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: by the sideline and listen what we've been working on

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Speaker 1: at work and he was very excited about it, and

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01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: I got a chance to talk to him. So we're

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Speaker 1: working on directional kicking because that's what they want him

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01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: to be better at and more consistent. There. There you

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Speaker 1: have it. Secrets that are revealed on Big Blue Kick

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Speaker 1: Off after you were caught on television talking to Riley

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Speaker 1: Dixon two zero five one three. Charlie is in Portland's Maine. Charlie,

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Speaker 1: what's happening? Keep it quick, Charlie. I've got to go

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Speaker 1: to say you guys are good, you know, and also

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Speaker 1: you're one of the best shows that I listened to. Charlie,

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Speaker 1: are you okay? You drink? But where exactly is this

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Speaker 1: coming from them? Yeah? I don't buy any of this.

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Speaker 1: This is something the butt with the capitol B is

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Speaker 1: coming up. So so why don't you just get to

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Speaker 1: the point. Just shows. I listened to Lance, which every

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Speaker 1: one you're doing is one of the best. And that's

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Speaker 1: all you have to say today, right, is way too

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Speaker 1: much that's being fed my way. Hey, Look, you know

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01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: everyone's like getting so worried because Golden Tate is like, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, suspended for four games. Look he need with

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Speaker 1: us last year. We don't know what his production is

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Speaker 1: going to be. If it was Shepherd, then look at

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Speaker 1: all the good points, good Way, it's a good point.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. You're right hey, on the board

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Speaker 1: right today, Flying outside the Middle was about Odell. Look,

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Speaker 1: a lot of what O'Dell said was spot on. It

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Speaker 1: was true. And what he said about going to Cleveland

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Speaker 1: to die, what he meant was going from the biggest

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Speaker 1: market in the universe, New York to Cleveland. That's what

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Speaker 1: he was talking about. And the thing is, I think

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Speaker 1: O'Dell will be in l A next year. He'll be traded.

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Speaker 1: That's where he wants to go, and that's where he'll

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01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: be happy in Hollywood, and so I just watch for that.

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Speaker 1: He likes to follow Lebron, right, except Lebron wasn't in Cleveland.

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01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 1: He's off in l A. And you hit the nail

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Speaker 1: on the head. I said it earlier. He's already getting

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01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: bored with Cleveland, Ohio. Okay, he can't. He cannot handle

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01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: the fact that he is not He is not that.

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Speaker 1: Dam mean, he's popular, but he's not like that. He's

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01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: not the guy there. Right, Yeah, you're gonna go and Eveland.

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Speaker 1: You're just gonna go to the Hall of Fame place

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01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: rock and roll Hall of Fame. That's about it, right,

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Speaker 1: And hey, watch out this weekend, uh tony the lip,

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Speaker 1: Mr Lippitt, Well to intercept two paths from Daniel Jones. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you have a great to have a great weekend

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Speaker 1: even though it's Wednesday. Um yeah, but a good weekend

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Speaker 1: in terms of Big Blue Kickoff Live Character next Monday,

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01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: it's correct to pick off. Okay, Well, you know, Charlie

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01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: is high on every player that the Giants ever let go,

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Speaker 1: so nothing brings him greater joy than seeing goes. He's

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01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: also higher on all that all the all the offensive

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Speaker 1: line that we're on the roster, that we're better than

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Speaker 1: Eric Flowers. Don't offen that can that ship is more

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Speaker 1: ammunition to call up with some other fairy tales. But

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Speaker 1: just one last quick point based on what Charlie said

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Speaker 1: about Odell Beckham. The one thing though that to me

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Speaker 1: doesn't add up with that narrative is the fact that

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Speaker 1: he's got Jarvis Landry Jeff on the roster. Tevis Landry's

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: is very close. Yeah. So you know, when when people

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Speaker 1: start saying that he's unhappy there, I don't think he's not. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's unhappy. He's just it's it's in

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Speaker 1: his DNA to be the man. And you've got all

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Speaker 1: those other people, like we talked about, it's the ego.

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01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: It's the ego Brown's, Okay, not the not the Cleveland Browns,

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01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: is the ego Browns. I mean, there's so many egos

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Speaker 1: on that team. He's gonna have a hard time, you know,

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01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: being he has to be the guy and and right

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01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: now it's it's it's not he's not the guy. And

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he's gonna find it. Really, it's

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01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: gonna be crazy when he goes through his antics that

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01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: he's done before. Baker Mayfield will not put up with

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01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: that that he that's not his that's not his DNA,

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01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: that's not his mental makeup. That Baker is gonna give

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01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: it to you Eli wouldn't vocal, So I mean, that's

1384
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: gonna be the funny one. I can't wait for that.

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Speaker 1: It's happening, it's coming, It's coming, Folkscorn get the popcorn

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Speaker 1: at y. Yeah. Speaking of popcorn, this is just reminds

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: me of all of the t O popcorn stuff. There

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01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: you go, it all ties in and it comes full circle.

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Speaker 1: All right. So that is gonna wrap up the latest

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Speaker 1: edition of Big Blue Kick Off Live. Jeff and I

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Speaker 1: will be back up and running again tomorrow one pm Eastern,

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Speaker 1: and we'll continue to get you set for the Giants

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01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: and the Bengals, which will come your way tomorrow night,

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01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: the third preseason game, or we stay lock the Giants

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Speaker 1: dot Com for the latest for Jeff Feagles, I'm Lance Meto.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your Wednesday right here on Giants

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Have a going