1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: There was a special team's blunder that happened in the game, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: and I just can't imagine that conversation and what it 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: was like. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast, and 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: you know what time it is. It's that time that 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: I got my guy, big play Slave to talk about 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: what's happened this week and hear his opinion on everything. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: That was a tough one, Big play Man. That's very 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: very tough one man, very tough one man. 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: You know we had to That's when you really got 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 3: to lock yourself in the midr and like, yeah, yeah, 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: that's a tough one. 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: Was tough. 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate because anytime your defense has two turnovers. 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: You feel really good about it. 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Obviously, you guy Jalen Ramsey had a turnover second drive 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: at the football game, you know, after he had gave 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: up what appeared to be a touchdown. 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not watching the tape. I gotta 19 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: go look at the All twenty two. 20 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: It looked like he was the nearest guy, but I 21 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: know how that can be fabricated and twisted. But then 22 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: he got the book and then you know, you guys 23 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: got that turnover. Talk to me about how you were 24 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: feeling throughout that game, because it seemed like it was 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: an up and down game. 26 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the game was very smooth. 27 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: Man, it was up and down when it came to 28 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: like the third quarter, man, third, the mid third, and 29 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: in the fourth, like cause I feel like going into halftime, 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: we even though we weren't playing our best defense, we 31 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: felt as we went into halftime fourteen to seven, you know, 32 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: so we really took We're there with a good mind, 33 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: good said, but we knew for a fact that we 34 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: was not playing, you know, the brand of football we 35 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: wanted to play. And then you know, then coming out 36 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: you know, offense go three and out and then we 37 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: go out there and give up a long drive for 38 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 3: a tough like get tied the game up. 39 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: That's not how you respond, you know what I'm saying. 40 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 3: So that's what we got to get the connection in 41 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: that because that halftime swing was shit. 42 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: Could have been big for us. 43 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 3: You know, offense go out there, maybe put up three 44 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: to seven, and we go out there, get it three 45 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: and out and they come out there. 46 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: You know, so it went all bad. 47 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: But we all had to look ourselves into that mirror 48 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: and be like, hey, we're a better team than this man. 49 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: You know, we got guys that's very capable of being excellent, 50 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: and we just got to you know, play ball. You know, 51 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: I say, how eight players got to play like eight 52 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: players and you know that's all it is. 53 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: What was the most surprising part of that game. 54 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: The most surprising part about that game is to me 55 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: was the fact that I felt like, uh, the Seattle 56 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: Seahaffs did not like lose their composure, you know, with 57 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: us having two turnovers, with us getting to the quarterback 58 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: a good time. Think we sat there bout a little 59 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: four or five times. They never abandoned the run game. 60 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: They still kept you know, Sam Donald comfortable as in 61 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 3: like making sure you still got play actions, make sure 62 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: you're still just sitting there just being just a free 63 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: target for like us to go sack on them, you know, 64 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: because of our pass rush. I feel like they did 65 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: a great job with that. And I was like, you know, surprisingly, 66 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Definitely what it got with 67 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: us going in up fourteen seven and then they coming 68 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: out answering answering and still sticking to their game plan. 69 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: You know a lot of teams kind of get away 70 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: from their game plan when it's time for the guys 71 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: to kind of peel their ears back and get after 72 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: that quarterback. 73 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: They didn't believe in that. 74 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: They felt as in, like he we go establish this run, 75 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: make sure we keep this run going, and the panding 76 00:02:59,200 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 3: out for him. 77 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely did. It seemed like you guys did 78 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: a great job on Sharbonnay. But but Kenneth Walker, you know, 79 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: he found his lanes and found the way he would heat, 80 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, created something broke some tackles. Talk about how 81 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: difficult he was to deal with in that game because 82 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: it looked like, I mean, he only had thirteen carries, 83 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: but he had a hundred. 84 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 85 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: No, it was That's the crazy part because the first 86 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: like the first drive, man we stopped the run. We 87 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: was flying around hitting them and uh, you know a 88 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: lot of cracked tosses and everything. So we kind of 89 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: watched that from film last week, you know, we watched 90 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: him gets them against Seattle, I mean, get sant Fran 91 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: a lot of crack tosses, trying to get him vertical. 92 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: We feel like that was coming to do that, and man, 93 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: he had some creases, you know what I'm saying. 94 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: He got locked up. 95 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: You know definitely had a long run for about thirty 96 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: forty yards and you see him one on one of 97 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: our safety making a great move on him, and you know, 98 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: but uh, and what really was is hurting for man 99 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: is that third and nineteen at the goal line he 100 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: catch another crack toss in. What I'm saying it scold again, 101 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: so you're like, you know what I'm saying. That's when 102 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: you be like, yeah, bro, this is just not the date. 103 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: This is not the way. 104 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: What was the film room like with with that? Because 105 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: that's the worst part. That's the part that's got to understand. 106 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: If you're getting that feel, it's not I mean, dealing 107 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: with it once is bad enough. 108 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: It's tough, but have to watch it again. And he's 109 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: the coaches and you know you got might t that's 110 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 2: a defensive mind. The head coach. 111 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: You can tell that that right, they'll probably really identify 112 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: you as a team. You know, thankfully that it's early 113 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: that that that it's happened, you know, not laden into 114 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: the lad into the season against thankfully is a week 115 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: two and the fact that you know with a defensive 116 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: head coach, minor guy and he watching that on the 117 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: thirty nineteen with us probably can possibly, you know, still 118 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: be in his game, could. 119 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: Still be down to possessions. 120 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: But now we're really down two big time scores, you know, 121 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: and that's that's just dreadful for me, you know, I 122 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: you know, definitely at thirty nineteen and they just. 123 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: Cracked toss and get a tug. 124 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: But but but all the all the touchdowns weren't on 125 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: the defense. Uh, there was a special team's blunder. Uh 126 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: that happened in the game. And I just can't imagine 127 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: that conversation what it was like after he fumbled that, 128 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: or he didn't even fumble it, he just let it 129 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: go into the end zone. And I guess he thought 130 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: it was college rules. Because college rules, that's a dead ball. 131 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, it's live. 132 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: It's live with the mug, you know. Uh, you know, 133 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: that's a young kid. You know. 134 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: Of course, of course we go hold him accountable, you 135 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, But hey, hey, we all make mistakes. 136 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: We've never been perfect, none of his ass been. I 137 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: made plenty of mistakes as a rook when I was young. 138 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: He made one, you know, hopefully like because I tried 139 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: what I talked to him, because he might a young 140 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: guy don't let that play define who you are, you 141 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 142 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: Because that play like a play like that. 143 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: Definitely this type of city, definitely with this type of environment, Definitely, 144 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 3: this type of standard this team has, this organization has 145 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: that can ruin a kid career, you know, just because 146 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: they could always remember the player back. So I just 147 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: told him, Man, keep your head for it. Don't let 148 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: that play to find you who you are. You're a 149 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: young kid, very talented and so hopefully man. You know, 150 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: he put that behind him, and I told him too, man, 151 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: and all the teams told him, Man, talk less. Don't 152 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: talk about it no more like talk less. Don't even 153 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: bring it up, no more asked about it. Just Hey, 154 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: I'm on the bigger and better things. Man, I'm gonna 155 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: try to do them, you know, be ready to prepare 156 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: for my teammates. 157 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: So so he doing. 158 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: A good mind, man, But I, like I told him, Man, 159 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 3: keep your head on your shoulders, man, because it's tough. 160 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: That was tough to see, yeah, tough to be a 161 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: part of. 162 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: It's even tougher in this in this day and age 163 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: with social media and all this nonsense. Because they replayed 164 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: the play over and oh it used to be like, 165 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: hey man, I got to go home and see this 166 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: on Sports Center. But after a week it's gone, you know. 167 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: But now things are living on the internet, living on 168 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: social media so long and and these fans got so 169 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: much access to you and send hateful things. 170 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: And that's what makes it more, especially for a young kids. 171 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: As you get. 172 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: Older, you you you just a select all the laite. 173 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: You know, you don't read none of that nonsense, uh, 174 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: and you throw a couple of blocks at people, and 175 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: you you you be. 176 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: Done with it, or you don't even read it at all. 177 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: But as a young kid, it gets in your psyche. 178 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's hard for it not to. 179 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: And anybody that's sitting there saying, oh, don't let it 180 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: bother you just haven't dealt with it. 181 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: You haven't dealt with it on this level. 182 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: You haven't dealt with that level of hate for you 183 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: and people thinking that you don't care about something when 184 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: you've worked your whole life to get here. You've worked 185 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: your whole life to get in these moments, and you 186 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: made a mistake, not because it was purposefully and you 187 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: you were like, oh conscientious. 188 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: It was like, hey, I thought this was the rule. 189 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: Football is a fast game. 190 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: As soon as he as soon as he that ball 191 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: bounced over his shoulder, it was danger. It was danger 192 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: time because people are hunting, people are moving really fast, 193 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: and they are trying to get him. So at that point, 194 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: as soon as I didn't see him turning around, I said, ooh, oh, 195 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: it's bad. 196 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 197 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: The only thing that could have saved is one of 198 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: your teammates beat them there. 199 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And with this new rule, man, with that being 200 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: a new rule into the league, with his kicking stuff, 201 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: I knew that was gonna be a big emphasis just 202 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: for the NFL because it like, it's not ain't saying 203 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: not happen, but it's not happening in the regular season 204 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: game mostly happened in preseason, so they ain't blow it 205 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: out of proportion because they know it doesn't count. It 206 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 3: doesn't affect your record, doesn't affect the person. Might infect 207 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: a person that's getting cut, but but not as in 208 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: right now what they're doing the season. So with that 209 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: being really like the first time of experience that that's 210 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: really truly happening and somebody actually scoring off what I 211 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: knew it could be a big deal for him man. 212 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: So like I said, you know, the hate mails. 213 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: He'd be most likely got a lot of man coming 214 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: to continue to keep me in his head and just 215 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: hey man, stay focused, man on to the next. 216 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's tough. It's tough. It's 217 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: one of those things you got to you gotta just 218 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 1: get pasted. And hopefully he makes a big play later 219 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: on in the season and he can get past it, 220 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, and because that'll be the thing they remember. 221 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: You know, this isn't It'd be different if this was 222 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: a season defining thing, if this late in the year, 223 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: that's the last game and that kicks you out of 224 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs or something. But thankfully this is early in 225 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: the season. You know, he has plenty of room to 226 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: grow and plenty of room to make some more plays 227 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: and make up for that. But I know that's tough 228 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: on the kid, and it was tough on a Rod 229 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: this day. 230 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: It was. 231 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: It was a tougher game for him in that offense. 232 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. I know he was looking for a revenge 233 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: game and got he got a touchdown in the game. 234 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: But struggled a little bit. 235 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: And that's frustrating too, because I've been there, I've been 236 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: part of you know, on the other side. 237 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: My first game. 238 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: Back in Seattle with San Francisco, boy, we got our 239 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: faces give. I want to say, they won about forty 240 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: and something crazy, and you know you'd be sitting there like, hey, bro, 241 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: y'all couldn't like today, y'all couldn't do it for me, 242 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: Like I beat beat Wags had like a hundred yard 243 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: picked six and he was sitting there laughing with me 244 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: out like looking at me while he was running, saying, 245 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: I don't look at me god Dagon, but I feel 246 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: you on that. 247 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do that robbery. I do that robbery for real. 248 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: It's real because I did this. 249 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: I did the same thing too, man when I got 250 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: when I got the Philly and I played my first 251 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: time in Detroit, I was too ready, man, and but 252 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: I got a scoop and score for six, so I 253 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: was really lit, so really good. Was like yes, yes, 254 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: y'all let me go, and Trady be away. Y'all thought 255 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: it was so sweet. Okay, I got something for you, 256 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: So I got some fun. So I know I know 257 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: how DK is. 258 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 2: Man. He was. He kind of kept it cool all 259 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: week too, though. Man. 260 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: He kept his composure and I told him, like, you know, 261 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: I asked him how he felt about it. 262 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, He kind of cool. 263 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: He know, he's show like, you know, hey, it's the 264 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: best decision I needed to do for myself. And you 265 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, just because you know the different 266 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: direction there was going, and you know he saw differently then. 267 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: You know, he had a lot of guys that he 268 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: you know, he went to war with that's probably not 269 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 3: going to be there with him as well. 270 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: Which you know that the business is the business part, 271 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: but you. 272 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: Know, uh, he feels like he loved his bird, and 273 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: I knew I wanted to have a big game for him. 274 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 275 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure because I'm one of the 276 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: ones that, hey, I understand how the person feels when 277 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: you feel like, you know, you did everything for an 278 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: organization and they trade your away or to release you, 279 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: and then you come there and get a home win. 280 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: For him, it's a different feeling, man. 281 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: So we damn show Trump thought about him out there, man, 282 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: And for us not to get that dub for him, 283 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: I'll hurt for him too. 284 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough. It's tough. It's a long season. 285 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: Tell me about the conversations in the locker room from 286 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: the from the all pro vets. You know, y'all got 287 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: so many incredible players on that defense. You Ramsey, Cam Hayward, 288 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: TJ Queen, a bunch of big time guys. Tell me 289 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: how to conversation because I know, I don't know if 290 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: you guys had the team only defensive only, but I 291 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: know there was a meeting of the minds after this 292 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: game because there's a certain standard that each every one 293 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: of you guys hold yourselves too, and of course the 294 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: group as a whole. 295 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh what we basically we ain't have like 296 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: a team gatherer or nothing. 297 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: It's more of a like, uh after the game, you 298 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: know a lot you know, of course, after the game 299 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: like that, a lot of guys kind of stay in 300 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: the locker room, and most likely it was all the 301 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 3: Vets like me, Ramsey and you know all of Cam, J, TJ. 302 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: So we're just chopping up a little bit man asking like, hey, 303 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: well we need to do different because it's early in 304 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: the year, and so I was just give him my 305 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: perspective of how I felt about what need to be 306 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 3: a little bit not saying a little crazy different, but 307 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: just like the aspect of the game or how not 308 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: to be too hard on. 309 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: Ourselves or not. 310 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: Because I told him, like, I ain't gonna bring up 311 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 3: my last year team, you know, because Philly we had 312 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: the same type of schedule. You know, we had h 313 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: fourth short fourth weeks, then we had our bye week, 314 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: and we had the same thing this year. You know, 315 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: we got a four fourth game then the bye week, 316 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: and we started off the same way one and one, 317 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 3: and you. 318 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: Know, we weren't feeling like we living up to the 319 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: Philly standard. 320 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: And you know, next thing, you know that we turn 321 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: around after the bye week, number one defense in the league, 322 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 3: super Bowl champion. 323 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 324 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: So I told the man, keep our composure and it's 325 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: let's be let's be detailed, man, Let's get more detailed 326 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: than we have a been. 327 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: And everybody just need to set their. 328 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: Role of what their role are, you know, and this lead, 329 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: everybody is a performance based lead. 330 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: So everybody want to outperform something so they get paid. 331 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: I said, what y'all don't know is when you win games, 332 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: you go to playoffs, you get in this championship games, 333 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: people come get winning coaches and. 334 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: They will pay for it. So so that's why I'm 335 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: trying to sell folks. 336 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to steering folks, like, hey, set 337 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: the role that you got here and be the master 338 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: at your role. 339 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: I know. 340 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: And and we've talked about this corner play because people 341 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: don't understand that how hard it is to do what 342 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: Jaalen Ramsey's trying to do. 343 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: And and that's why, you know, I know, he got 344 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: some criticism. 345 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: First off, he got a nice book that was a 346 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: heck of a play out of off a tough route 347 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: that outcut off. 348 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: The off the switch switch like, okay, all right, that's not. 349 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: This boy cooking today, but to switch because he played 350 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: it looked like he played safety in that game a nickel. 351 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: He played right corner, he played left corner. It's tough. 352 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: That's a really tough thing to do. And that's why 353 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: some people were like, and as corners, you kind of 354 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: like you're prideful, because it's a prideful position. You gotta 355 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: I gotta think. I'm out here strapping, and hey, I 356 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: don't need to move for nobody. It don't matter who 357 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: come over here, the number one, number two, number three, 358 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: the best guy, the worst guy. I'm strapping, so I 359 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: don't need nobody's about. But when you have a dynamic 360 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: like that, it's really tough to get a rhythm when 361 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: you're inside and outside and then back there to get 362 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: your press rhythm, your footwork that's necessary in these plays. 363 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: And so when people are like like, oh man, he 364 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: had a tough game, are you just like, hey, what 365 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: he trying to do, It's just like it's really difficult 366 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: to do. 367 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I got You know, Jay got a 368 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: lot on his shoulders. You know, with him playing the 369 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: safety road. He started at safety, he go to nickel 370 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: and base and then he sometimes he go to corner. 371 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: Uh, he got a lot. 372 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 3: And you know I was telling him like, hey man, 373 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: I know you got a lot going on, man, But 374 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: he signed up for he loved that challenge. 375 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: He loved the challenge. So you know, he had to 376 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: talk with me today just about like, hey man, I 377 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: gotta be way better. 378 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: Even though with him knowing so many positions, you know, 379 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: he don't get you. No, he don't want no leadway, 380 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: he don't want know Patty on the back just because 381 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: of the fact that he got three positions. He need 382 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: to learn because he feel as in like he's one 383 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: of the best to probably play this game at this 384 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: corner position. So I understand him because I'm the same way. 385 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: And then and I told him, like when we all 386 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: got together, you know, when they would have made the 387 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: acquirement to trade for rinds are like, hey, I've been 388 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: telling it. I've been I've been a number one corner, 389 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: a corner for ten years, you know in this game. 390 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: You know. 391 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: And I told folks, it's like I said, you gotta 392 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: play your role. Like I'm not here to sit here 393 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: and say like hey slay. I know I could travel 394 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: and do my thing and he and whatever, like I'm 395 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: more of a team player. 396 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: So whatever we fit to need the team and win. 397 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: If I got to be the two corner, three corner, 398 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: whatever corner I need to be, I'm here to do 399 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: that and the maxim my ability of being that. So 400 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: he understand that role for me, So I to make 401 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: him feel comfort to be an understand his role for himself. 402 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: So he understands it's a tough challenge. 403 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: Man. 404 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: He know for a fact that he feels as he 405 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: plays his best game. 406 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: He made some plays for us, of course, like he 407 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: always do his Ramsey, but he knows his standards high 408 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: to himself because he's one of the best in his game. 409 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: So every day, you know, we gonna come put the 410 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: work in and he got continue to keep better. 411 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna help him try to get better as well myself. 412 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: He will help me. 413 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: So I just hope for the best for him every year. 414 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: Every time I think i's gotta go out there and 415 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: get it. I think it's a it's a great conversation. 416 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: I think it's always a conversation. 417 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: I know it's a weird dynamic, but it's a tough conversation, 418 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, because people always talk about the oh, you 419 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: didn't follow this receipt or you didn't I followed whenever 420 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: I was asked to do it, and then when somebody 421 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: else struggled, like it's a it's a different kind of 422 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: understanding when you have conversations in the dB room and 423 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: they say, hey, I want you to follow this guy 424 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: because I don't think our other corner can do it. 425 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: That's pretty much what you're saying. 426 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: And so when when in our locker room, I had 427 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: a high respect for guys we were dealing with, unless 428 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: those guys was like, hey, Sharon, that's cool, go ahead, 429 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: then I you a stand up and if you don't, 430 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: I'll be over there to deal with him. But look, 431 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you take a chance at it. I'm 432 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: gonna let you know what I mean, because I believe 433 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: in you. I respect your game, and if nothing else, 434 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: we can lean or over there and we can figure 435 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: it out. But I'm not gonna sit here and bump 436 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: you and diminish you and say, hey, you can't do this, 437 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: so let me go strap. 438 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: That's not necessary, that's not what we need to do. 439 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: We can lean and figure that out. 440 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: So I know, it's it's just always a tough thing 441 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: to navigate, especially two veteran guys, two guys who are 442 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: out for us, who've been number ones and so many things. 443 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: So it's it's cool that y'all able to have those 444 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: conversations and at least, you know, comes to some common 445 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: ground in a decent respect and an understanding because both 446 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: of y'all can do it. 447 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: Both y'all have done at a high level for a 448 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: long time. Yeah. Yeah, we got a lot of respect 449 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: for each other. Man. We had a conversation. 450 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: We had one with Shoot with Mike T and just like, hey, 451 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: look he understood where we're at. You know, Shoot, they know, 452 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: you know, he know it comes with getting paid twenty 453 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: six million dollars a year. You know what I'm saying. 454 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: You know, so he ready for it. He always signed 455 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: up for He look forward to it every week. Shoot, 456 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: I look forward to that every week. Who if I line 457 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: up in front of me, my job is to, you know, 458 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: dominate this guy. Matter who it is, is a Tier one 459 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 3: receiver or Tier five, it don't really matter, and I'm 460 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 3: ready to go and no question. 461 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: But that's another aspect of it that I think people 462 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: don't understand, just the whole sprinting on the other side 463 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: of the field, like from side to side. 464 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: We ain't got to jog back like there was. 465 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: Sometimes we didn't even go back to the huddle because 466 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, we. 467 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: Treated it like it was too bad. You don't hire 468 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: on a two minute you just be like whatever, we 469 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: don't figure this out. We figured this out. 470 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: Uh, That's how we played it a lot of times, 471 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: because it's just more effective. Like if somebody struggling, somebody 472 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: giving up some plays, earl step on the other side 473 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: that has I bet you don't unlost, unleash no go ball. 474 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: Now come over here and deal with me, and so 475 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: you know, there's other ways to navigate it. But I 476 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: think you guys get it figured out. You got Mike 477 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: T's too smart of a coach. You're two talented of 478 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: a team. It's just a bump of the road that 479 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: I know is frustrating. How was the environment, because that's 480 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: a tough environment to play in, all the Seattle I 481 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: used to hate playing there. 482 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: When it's still it's nothines anymore? What is it now? 483 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: Feel called it was hines Field back in the day. Yeah, yeah, 484 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: we look old it was a hospital. I still thought 485 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: it was. I thought it was. 486 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, maybe not be It's my than my 487 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: second time in the stadium playing for this team, so 488 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: in this organization, so I don't really know that now. 489 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: I barely know how to get there, a for sure 490 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: a for sure stadium, yeah hines Field. Yeah yeah, hey, 491 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: I better know how to get there. I'm still GPS. 492 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: And tell me how how that environment was? 493 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: Those fans, you know, the terrible towns, the history of 494 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: that place, man, it was. 495 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: It was crazy. 496 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 3: Now that that I'm on the other side of it, right, 497 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: you know, they got that renegade on and man, look 498 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 3: I was on the you know, opponent's side at one 499 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 3: time listen to I'm like, dang, this is this is 500 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: crazy and now you feel you know what I'm saying. 501 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: Even though I felt the energy from you know, from them, 502 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: from being just from the way team, but on the 503 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 3: home team down that you hear it and it's like 504 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: and that's what really gets you coin you know what 505 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like I'm back where when it comes down 506 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 3: to third down or something like that, I might get 507 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: the we or something like that. 508 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: For the defense, they got to renegade and they take. 509 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: A long time, like they hold that clock like I 510 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: think it's like they might got some with the NFL, 511 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: because they they might. 512 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: They didn't let the whole song. 513 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: Play out, Like I'm like, like it's like a TV 514 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: time out and you know they get to go on 515 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: them towers and stuff. 516 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: Man, it was. It was a great environment. Man. 517 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 3: Fortunately, you know, we didn't get the dub that we 518 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: needed to for the city on our first home open 519 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: home game, but they bring the energy. 520 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: Man. 521 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: I never understood the terrible towers thing because I'm just looking, 522 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: but it's really just a yellow tower. 523 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: Why it's so terrible? You better be careful, be out 524 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: be caretful because I'm trying. I'm trying to understand the culture, man, 525 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: that's all it is. I'm just trying to say what 526 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: makes the tower the tower terrible? That's all I want 527 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: to know. 528 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: Like, well, in the comments Stiller fans, y'all make sure 529 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: y'all educate Big play. 530 00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: Terrible. 531 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to know the education because I 532 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: think needs some nice looking towers. 533 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking right on, some nice style. Yeah, 534 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure out what is terrible. Y'all 535 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: got the Patriots in Jellette this week. 536 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: Talk about how y'all feeling, because it's it's definitely one 537 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: of those games where you felt like, hey, we had 538 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: a bounce back, we got to make a statement. They 539 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: played a good game against the Miami Dolphins, were able 540 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: to come out with a win against a division opponent. 541 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: Obviously there's some up and down play with Drake May, 542 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: but y'all gotta be feeling really really good about it. 543 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good time for us to go out 544 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 3: here and you know, another chance to go out here 545 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: and perform play at a higher level, man, uh and 546 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: really set that expectations of what we need to be Man, 547 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: we got to make a stamp on something. 548 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: Man. 549 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: Definitely in all phases, run game, communication, the passing game, 550 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: you know, every every aspect of it. 551 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: So we got a lot a lot to do. Man. 552 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: Thing that's probably been going great for us right now 553 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: is special team, you know, in a great way. 554 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: You know, our kicker is not missing nothing. We have 555 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: guys that's making special teams. 556 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: Players from last week that helped us win the game 557 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: against the Jets, that the one turnover before then, and 558 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: then you know, special teams came up a little bit 559 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: big this week. 560 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 2: You know, we made to miss a field goal. 561 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: So overall, man, I think the team for show gotta 562 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: go out here and just focused details and we gotta 563 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: be a lock. 564 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 2: Damn. We gotta send a message to the league. And 565 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 2: it's really like, I know this's not and it's they 566 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 2: are in that division, but not in the division. So 567 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 2: it's the AFC. 568 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: So we got to go set the tone for this 569 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 3: team because it's some good teams in the AFC. Man, 570 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: for us to be one of them, we got to 571 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: go out here and dominate some guys. 572 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of another AFC team, our guy Travis Hunter 573 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: was able to play eighty five snaps this week he 574 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: played I think thirty I don't get I gotta get 575 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: the exact numbers, but it was. It was a little 576 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: over forty two on offense. I think he played thirty 577 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: eight on defense. That's only that's adding up to eighty 578 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: nine eighty five. But yeah, that's what they telling us. 579 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: But he had three catches for twenty two yards, two tackles, 580 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: and two passes defended on thirty eight snaps on defense. 581 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: What did you think his game? Obviously, that pass and 582 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: inference was unfortunate. I don't see how you can cover 583 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: that much better. That's one of them calls where I'm like, 584 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: come to f on, like I'm playing both ways, doing 585 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: all this for the game. I cover the six three 586 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: t ten pounds receiver as well as I can back 587 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: the ball away, and y'all call that, like. 588 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: You can't call that right there in that spot, you can't. 589 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: Definitely on the fourth and five, I saw the hoigh 590 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 3: on the board man. Definitely four and five For a 591 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: young kid that you know that's trying to be who 592 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: he is. That's the number two pick of the draft, 593 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: So I'm just happy for him. They gave me more 594 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: reps on defense for show man, I want to see 595 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: in that and you see as the reps goes, his 596 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: production getting better, you know, definitely the two PBUs. So uh, 597 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 3: it's big for him, man, it's big. I like that 598 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: for him, man, And thankfully, like it's good to see 599 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: him on that defense. You know, I'm a defensive line 600 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: of guy, so I want to see him play that 601 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: corner and me too. He got and I'm glad he 602 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 3: got a good chance to go again some of the 603 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: best receivers in this league. And he continue to keep, 604 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: you know, showing sparks because like I said, we all 605 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 3: know he gets it in very versatile, so we want 606 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: to see him put that to use man, definitely on 607 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: that defensive side. 608 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: But it's again just to talk about what we talked 609 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: about before, Like he played forty two STAPs to get 610 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: him three catches for twenty two yards, Like was it 611 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: worth it? Was it worth the energy of putting him 612 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: out there for forty two snaps for him to half 613 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: three catches for twenty two yards? Like you could do 614 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: that in twenty snaps, you could do that in fifteen, 615 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,239 Speaker 1: Like you don't have to have him out there if 616 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: that's he got six targets, like you could have twenty 617 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: plays to every passing down he's out there and get 618 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: him his passes. But on defense, I thought he he 619 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: played really well. I thought that would have been such 620 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: an iconic play for him. If they don't call that 621 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: nonsense on him, because think about this, in another world, 622 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: he bats that, that's game, that's game. So Travis Hunter 623 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: playing both ways, makes an incredible play on defense to 624 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: save the game, to seal the win for the Jacksonville 625 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: Daguars that BS called just as a corner makes you mad, boy. 626 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: That would have been one of the biggest headlines as 627 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: a rookie this coming week too, just the fact they 628 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: played them snaps they'll have been talking about. 629 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: Of course they're a man talking about his three for 630 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: twenty six catches about twenty six yards. 631 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: But that play there would like say like, hey, Travis, 632 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: is this guy that we all thought he was definitely that, 633 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: But you know that's the red fault, man, you know. 634 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 635 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: Like, especially in that play, like I can understand if 636 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: it's a gregious he grabbed him by the neck. 637 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: It wouldn't nothing crazy. He got his fight around, he 638 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: got his hand around and tapped the ball. The ball, 639 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: that's come on, man, And that's what they asked for. 640 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: That's what they asked for us to do. 641 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 3: Look, make sure you leaning Loki and turn your head 642 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: look for the ball before you can get a pi. 643 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 2: But then when you look for the ball, and when 644 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: old Gregious holding, he wasn't no Egregious. They hand fighting. 645 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna call that, then like the receiver 646 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: is putting his hands on him and he's putting his 647 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: hands back on the receiver. They're hand fighting. That's part 648 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: of the game. Like, is there a slight restriction, I'm sure. 649 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: Are there push off from receivers? I'm sure? But those 650 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: are the plays that hey, on a fourth and five 651 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: for the game. You gotta let him. 652 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: Play's gotta be outrageous. It gotta be outrageous. I mean, yeah, 653 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: is it? 654 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I am hey, I'm just just because I like, 655 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: that's my little homies. So I'm like hot about it 656 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: because the fact that like that could have been a 657 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 3: real sennature play to get his like start off his 658 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: career when they be like maybe the first time Travis 659 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 3: Hunt made a big time stop. He's been doing this 660 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: since a rookie year, you know, early earlier. He started 661 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: off earlier like so that's what I'm blowing about. But 662 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's gonna have way more opportunities, you know, 663 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 3: to make some type of plays. 664 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: And I'm waiting for his first pick. 665 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 3: So I didn't know, see what you do with that rock, 666 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: but uh, you know you don't do something crazy. 667 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm almost more frustrated because I know if he makes 668 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: that play and seals the game, it's gonna put something 669 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: in the. 670 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: Back of his head about like, hey, maybe y'all go dB. 671 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: Yes you are a dB. 672 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, come join us, Come join us, man, come 673 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: join us, Come on, come on over there. You know 674 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 3: you want to you know you want to get in 675 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 3: that little pedal. You know you want to speed turning out. 676 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know scoring touchdowns it's smooth. 677 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: I know I wish I could too in the league 678 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: you're doing. But you just need twenty twenty five stamps. 679 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: Y'all guaranteed six targets a game. 680 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: We're good to go. Come home and go ahead with 681 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 2: his island so you can come over and join that 682 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: DP world. He want to be over here with us, 683 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: right what you want to be You want to be 684 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: over here? Because that's gonna allow you to reach the principice. 685 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: It's gonna reach the heights you can reach. Oh yeah, 686 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: you gonna be that. Yeah, he gonna be that time 687 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: that he got. 688 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 3: Man, he could be in that serious goat conversation one 689 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: these days if he continue to keep growing as a 690 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: player every year. Man, God forbid injury free years and 691 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: good stuff like that. 692 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 4: So man, come on, steels his poised, his field like 693 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: he's right there, and then you know, you give up 694 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: that play to to Jamar Chase on the on the curl. 695 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: But I mean this is Damar Chase. Yeah, I mean 696 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: that's his lipper. You got a lift for that living 697 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: be in them conversations that he. 698 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: Know he want to be in the only type of 699 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: matchups you gotta go dominate and win. I know they 700 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: gonna come though, they gonna come. 701 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: Come, and he's just a rookie. But I just wanted 702 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: to keep getting more snaps. I like that what they're 703 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: doing with him. I just wish they flip the numbers 704 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: the way I need him to flip because you're wasting 705 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: a lot of energy on forty two snaps to get 706 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: six targets. So that mean I mean what the other 707 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: thirty six plays you wasn't You was just out there 708 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: twiddling your thumbs getting conditioning, Like we don't need that. 709 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: Hey, the receivers call it cutting grass. Cutting grass. 710 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: Receivers call it. I can find they cutting the grass man. 711 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 3: I'm not head just cutting grass like that. The thing 712 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: was to tell me, boy, they like, I'm just cutting 713 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: his grass. 714 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: Man, I'm just runn up and down this field and 715 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: coming back. I love it. I love it. 716 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: Okay, they got a we got a question from the fans, 717 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: big play. They said, who is your best corner of 718 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: all time? Now, before we go too deep in this 719 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: and go down the rabbit hole, we got under you 720 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: can't forget about Mel Blunt and Mike Haynes and yeah, 721 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: Lester Hayes and Darryl Green and you got Champ and 722 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: and like there's a lot of guys in there that 723 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: that that you know, could throw the at in the ring. 724 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, my goat of all goats right now, I ain't 725 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: go my goat. It's as far as Champ, you know. Uh, 726 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: He's he's from around the corner down the street from 727 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: front Man. 728 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to be like Champ where I'm at and 729 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: you know. 730 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 3: So uh, that's that's always been the goat man. I 731 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: wanted to go to Georgia because he went to Georgia. 732 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 733 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 3: All that I wore, he wore him before I wanted 734 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: him a foe, you know, and that's what I wore 735 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 3: for in high school. So like I always wanted to 736 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: be like Champ because that's just like who would go 737 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: be the next champ come up? So I did get 738 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: that kind of recognized recognization as in, like slave, I 739 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: got a chance to be the next champ around here 740 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 3: right now, so I had to I had. 741 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: To scale up there. So I'm feeling good. 742 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: So uh, and you know, of course, you know he's 743 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: you know, first Battle of Hall of Fame, had an 744 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: amazing career in college facing that, so I know. But 745 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: coming through high school, I was getting that kind of 746 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: like love as in, like, okay, we finally guys another 747 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: down South guy that's kind of like a champ because 748 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: he he was magnificent man. Everybody tried to do everything. 749 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: They make everything, and I played corner because of him everything. 750 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: So Chapman goat always. 751 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: And then he panned out the way I want him 752 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: to pan out in the league. Shuld I love it, 753 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: I love yeah. 754 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean at that ten pick year he had was 755 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: wild too, Like, I don't think he pople talking about 756 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: that enough. At ten pick year Champ had, Boy, he 757 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: was out there playing some football football man. 758 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: That's what we saying. 759 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: You know, you know, everybody know who to get. You know, 760 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: got Deanna as the goat. Well, I'm just saying, like 761 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: Champ definitely close to that conversation. 762 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: Got let me, let me get his numbers, because I 763 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: don't want to. I don't want to Champ up that. 764 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: I think Chap got like what he like, fifty fifty 765 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: five pick maybe, don't worry, don't worry, be right here 766 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: for you in a second. Give me, give me two seconds, 767 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: give me in two seconds. Letting Barney, it's nineteen forty. 768 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: Let's see nineteen forty. No, I'm going all the way back. 769 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I know Champai yeah, Bailey fifty two interceptions, 770 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: fifty two on New Year, Dion fifty three, Yah Long 771 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: fifty three, Aneas Williams fifty five mm. 772 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: Paul Kraus got eighty one. See but they they told 773 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: they just switched it five to eighty one. 774 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: No, that because I just went to the top because 775 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: they were saying, Dick Knight tran Lane was up there 776 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: for a while. They be playing you know what I mean, 777 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: They be fluctuating these numbers because these numbers looked different before, 778 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: because they got Night trained Lane at sixty eight now 779 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: and Rob wits Woodson at. 780 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: Seventy one and Emmelyn Tunnel at seventy nine. God, oh 781 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: what that's that's when the game was different. 782 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: That's why fans are like, yeah, you guys don't get 783 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: as many interceptions anymore because it's a different game. Like 784 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks were out there first off, concussed barely up from 785 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: down the hit. They're under the rest and they're not worried. 786 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: They weren't worried about interceptions back then, they weren't seeing 787 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: the way we see them now. It wasn't like, oh, 788 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: quarterback throws four interceptions, they're the worst quarterback in the world. 789 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, just win the game. And so the whole, 790 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: the whole way football was looked at was different. Now 791 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: everything is efficiency, Like, hey, you throw two picks in 792 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: a game, you're the worst quarterback in the world. 793 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: So quarterbacks are are risk averse. 794 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: That's why you're not getting at thirteen fourteen interceptions, gonna 795 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: lead the league. Back in the day you had twenty 796 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 1: twenty five interceptions. Easy, Brett Farve got the most interceptions 797 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: in the history of the game. He even throwing them out, 798 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: giving them out like hotcakes. And so I wish we 799 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: played in there in an era where they weren't treating 800 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 1: quarterbacks like, hey, man, if you throw a few interceptions, look, don't, don't. 801 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: Don't treat them so bad, because like them throw a 802 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: couple to me and let me feed my family. But 803 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: you know it, quarterbacks, or rather eat the ball or 804 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: throw it out of bells or make it uncatchable than 805 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: to throw you a buck. 806 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you, boy, because Devi with bread 807 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: fall throwing what the most lever boy, that boy was like. 808 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: What how they was in long yard. He's like, ugh, 809 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: uh the MEC tickets for everybody to throw the man. 810 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: Well boy god Lee yeah. Man, But father, that's why 811 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: I be telling folks when we'll be always talking. 812 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: About this version of football and that version of football. 813 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: That version of football was really strictly about winning, like 814 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: it was really about that. It was not about no 815 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 3: stacks about if he do for three hundred yards and dada. 816 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: This year. 817 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: Ever, it's all about numbers. Everybody want to bring in numbers, numbers, 818 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 3: the numbers that his numbers did. Number that numbers do 819 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: womans do taking effect. But like when it comes down 820 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: to big like he threw three hundred and thirty six. 821 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: Come on, what that? 822 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: That's a lot The next closest person at two seventy 823 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: seven three hundred what thirty six? 824 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: And I can only imagine how many games he played. 825 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: I know he didn't play that. 826 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: He probably what it is in his sption percentage is 827 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: only three point three percent, so it was a lot. 828 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: He played a lot of games because George Blander was 829 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: six point nine and John Handl was five point seven 830 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: in Vinnie Testaverdi through two undred and sixty seven, but 831 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: it was only four percent of the passes he threw. 832 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, three thirty six. 833 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: God dang four hundred that dan that then to. 834 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: Pick a game, now what I'm saying like if they 835 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: was feeding like that when we played, I forget a 836 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: fifty piece. But that's that's what people don't appreciate about 837 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: how hard it is to get interceptions in this day 838 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: and age of all this efficiency and and all this, 839 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, all these eyes on it, quarterbacks 840 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: aren't going to do it. If they don't have to 841 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: do it. You gotta hunt for him. Yeah, you gotta 842 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: hunt for him. And the quarterbacks aren't concussed. They as 843 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: comfortable as they We was talking to Jared Goff, or 844 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: I was talking to a big wit, and he said 845 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: Jared Goff was telling him someday some games, he's not 846 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: even sore after the game because they're not getting hit 847 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: like that no more. I mean, they got a great 848 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: offensive line, but I mean, I'm sorry, they take enough 849 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: sacks they gonna feel sore. But it's a different game. 850 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: And that's why the old school quarterbacks talk about it. 851 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: It's so soft because they had to play under such duress. 852 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean talking about really getting hit and then 853 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: you might pop up really with a fully full blown cercussion. 854 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 3: If you go to that saline, you're gonna fell it today. 855 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: That's second. 856 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 3: But look, I got twenty eight and I know for 857 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 3: a fact or if I played in nineteen sixty seventy eighty, shit, 858 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,959 Speaker 3: I'm having fifty. 859 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: Of them get media. 860 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, with you playing at about sixty seventy, I do 861 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: i'ld have got be about fifty. 862 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: I would have been on over that water every year, like, 863 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: let me get a car. I ain't dropping too many 864 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: of these books now. 865 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 3: Not And then they and they wasn't so bad about 866 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: the game back then. It wouldn't know it was that 867 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 3: much crazy rock combinations, man, that they would have been. 868 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 2: No. Man, you already was picking all the fae ball. Look. 869 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: I saw see some of them more outs from back 870 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: of the day, and I love them dudes because they 871 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: could play. 872 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: But it just was different the Christmas wasn't you know 873 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: what I mean? It didn't need to be. Yeah, I 874 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: mean they that's it's a different game. 875 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: But it's a very different game for show. But it's 876 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: all respect from guys tho they asked. And how deep 877 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: was the Hardball Carrol rivalry? Understand this, y'all can look 878 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 3: this quote up. 879 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: When Pete Carroll was asked did he have anything fond 880 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: to say this week about Jim R. Ball, he said, no, 881 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: I have no fond memories of him. That's how that 882 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: rivalry goes. Look, Jim has changed over the years. Jim 883 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: has gotten a lot better and and and more peaceful more, 884 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Cordial, but he felt that 885 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: way too about the rivalry for a while, at least 886 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 1: while we were at Stanford. I think over the years, 887 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, if by Gones or by Gones, he's let 888 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: a lot of things go that Pete. I don't know 889 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: if he's letting go. But I'm interested to watch this 890 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: game tonight because that's gonna be a dogfight. But I 891 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: don't think there's any love lost or love found between 892 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: them two big play. 893 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: Hey, I know it ain't by That's crazy though, that 894 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: you play for both of them, So it's like that's 895 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 3: almost asking you a question. I don't even want to 896 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: put you in that tough bond act, but I ain't 897 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 3: gonna put you in that tough bond. 898 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I didn't play. I didn't 899 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: play for both of them a couple different times. I 900 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: know that's what I'm saying. So I'm like, I go 901 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: put you that body. But I know, boy, that gonna 902 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: be so damn. 903 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 3: And for real though, how Pete be looking and how 904 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 3: he'd be running a bit at it. He might be 905 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 3: the most in shape man I ever seen in my 906 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 3: life at that age, but he might be ready to. 907 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: Box some two if he ready. Yeah, yeah, he definitely 908 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: look he gonna be in shape for it. 909 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: He gonna he maximizing that what seventy three, seventy four 910 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: year old body he got. 911 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 3: Man, I'm telling you, I ain't never seen I'll be 912 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 3: seeing them doing push us. I'll be seeing them running 913 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 3: up and down the field, springing, throwing the ball, playing 914 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 3: quarterback with the team. I know he be throwing ducks 915 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 3: out there, but he's still throwing that back way. 916 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: He's way, he's way, the best quarterback to ever play. 917 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: But I appreciate your big play for joining us. 918 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: I know this is your off thing coming up, and 919 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: you got things to do, people to see, places to be. 920 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: As always, it's all love, brother, all love. Are you 921 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: already know what timing is? 922 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir. Appreciate you guys joining us too. 923 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here 924 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: with me and my guy. Big play and we appreciate that. 925 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: Hit that sub button. 926 00:36:54,200 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: If you knew h