1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 2: What I'm trying to do is as I'm trying to 3 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: create an entertaining solution to things, I want people to 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: fill my music. There's more power in music than making 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: you go out and party. 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there's power in music. It can save the world, 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: and I believe that. 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 3: This is The Taking a Walk Podcast hosted by Buzznight, 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: the podcast where we span musical genres and dig deep 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: with all types of musicians. Today's special guest comes from 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: a historic country music family, Way Jennings Way. He talks 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: about his struggles, his predemption, and his latest music. Next 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: on Taking a Walk with Buzznight. 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 4: Way Jennings It's so nice to meet you on a 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 4: virtual edition of the Taking a Walk Podcast. Thanks for 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: being on. 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Oh you bet. Brother's good to be here. Man. 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 4: Do you like taking walks to kind of clear your 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 4: head when you're in the middle of a recording process 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: and trying to create. 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Every once in a while, Yeah, I've been walking a 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: lot with my family lately. The greater process is like 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: a mind game, you know, It's like trying to figure 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: out what to do and where to go with it. 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: What's the best course of action. 26 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: I usually just call in a lot of people to 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: consult with me on it, because if I just rely 28 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: on my own understanding, then it just you got to 29 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: have a consensus. 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: But you're an independent thinker. 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm very much an independent thinker. But I've 32 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: independently thought myself into a corner a few times too. 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: That's funny. Well, let's go back and talk about this 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: great grandfather of yours first, Whalen Jennings, and the impact 35 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: that he had on your life. 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: Always had a pretty profound impact on my life. I mean, 37 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: how could he not. I mean, he's whaling Jennings. It's 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: been a blessing being his grandson. A lot of people 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: thinks it would make it a lot easier for an 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: artist who already has a foot in the door. But 41 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: the thing about it is is, uh, it actually makes 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: a little harder for us, because not only you got 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 2: to get to the door, then you got to break 44 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: out of a shadow, and a shadow of that big 45 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: is hard to break out of it. Not to not 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: say that I'd ever want to completely break out of it, 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: because I'm really proud of my grandfather, But if I 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: could pull off what Hay Junior pulled off, you know 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: what I mean, he's Hate William's son, but he's also 50 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: Hank William Junior, you know what I mean. 51 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: I want to accomplish something like that eventually in my career. 52 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 4: How do you think you get to that point? 53 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: You just work real hard, you put out good music, 54 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: and eventually people are started and you know, people have 55 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: started seeing you for you rather than for who you 56 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: related to. And I think we're going to accomplish that 57 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: with this next album. I've really poured my whole heart 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: and soul into this next album. I mean every other thing, 59 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: every other project I ever put out, has had, you know, 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: traces of my grandfather in it. I'm having a really 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: hard time finding too many traces of him in this project. 62 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: I mean, we got the same attitude, of course, but 63 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 2: I feel more me in this new project, and I 64 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: feel like everybody else is going to feel more meat 65 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: to it too. 66 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: I love that. Tell me about the influence that your 67 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: grandmother has had on you as well. 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: My grandmother is like a patron saint. I mean, when 69 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: it came to the influence of Jesus Christ in my life, 70 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: she opened a lot of indoors. She's always been a 71 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: very godly woman, and I spent a lot of time 72 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: in my life. You know, I've always read the Bible, 73 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: and I've always been into spiritual quests. But I was 74 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: always looked at it wrong, you know. I mean I tried, 75 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: I went at it trying to pick it apart. But 76 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: she would always turn me around and show me how 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: you don't need to predict it apart because it's slowly 78 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: working in my life. So I'll give most of that, 79 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: you know, direction to her, because she's like even since 80 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: we were young, we watched gospel bill and stuff on 81 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: the bus while we ate, you know, pineapple and stuff 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: like that. But my grandmother had a profound effect on me. 83 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: And I don't even think she knows that, honestly. 84 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: And for those that may not know, she's the great 85 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: Jesse Colter and has you know, certainly an amazing legacy 86 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: on her own as well. 87 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's got wonderful music. She got a new 88 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: album now too, by the way, you got to look 89 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: her up. 90 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: And she's still creating, yes she is. 91 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: She got an album she just released called The Edge 92 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: of Tomorrow, The Leave another Edge of Forever. 93 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 1: Sorry, it's called the Edge of Forever. 94 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: And I just love my grandmother she's really a good 95 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: human being and she's a great musician, a great artist, 96 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: great performer. I still watch her old videos, her and 97 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: my grandfather performing together. 98 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 4: And tell me about your uncle, Shooter and the impact 99 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: that he had on you. 100 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: Shooter is a he's just a great human He went 101 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: out on a mission to be his own person and 102 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: he accomplished that sevenfold. 103 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: Man, he really did. He went out there and started 104 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: his own band, and he did. 105 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: The you know, the music the way everybody wanted him 106 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: to it first, and then he did the way he 107 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: wanted to do it. And then he found his niche 108 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: in like recording the songs that he believed in, you 109 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: know what I mean, like Zevon and stuff like that. 110 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 2: And he started a band up in La uh things 111 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: called the Werewolves of La I believe it was called. 112 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: And he's been producing Grammy winning albums like for the 113 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: last decade. He's just so talented in so many areas. 114 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: It's unreal. I mean, it's really unreal. I mean you 115 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: could dig into Shooters life on the Internet and just 116 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: get lost in a rabbit hole because he has got 117 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: his fingers in so many different directions. You know, He's 118 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: just he loves music. He loves so many different things, 119 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: love showbiz, like the old Jackie Cheese, you know what 120 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: I mean. He's like, he's just he loves so many 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: different things, and he's just he's got this amazing mind. 122 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: And I just look up to him in a lot 123 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: of ways. Man, I really do. 124 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: So you started as a drummer, Is that correct? 125 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: No, A lot of people have been getting that mistaken. 126 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: I started. 127 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: The first thing I wanted to do as a young 128 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: child was be a drummer. Because when I first went 129 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: out and I walked into a show my grandfather was 130 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: going to do, the stage was empty and the lights 131 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: were even down. 132 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: On the drum kid, and I was like, I want 133 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: to do that. I want to do that. 134 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: So they got me a drum kid, and the extent 135 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: of my drunk career was I jumped inside the bass 136 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: drum and rolled downstairs and it saturday into a million pieces. 137 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: So I was not a drummer first. I wanted to be, 138 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: but then it seemed more fun to write it downstairs. 139 00:06:53,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: So but I've always been a vocalist. Obviously, I just vocals. 140 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: Do you remember when you got your first guitar? 141 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I do. My grandfather gave it to me. 142 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: It was an acoustic guitar, and it ended up getting 143 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: broken as well, because when I was a young kid, 144 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But it was an acoustic 145 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: guitar and I played it for a little while. And 146 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: then after that one, that one broke accidentally. I didn't 147 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: write it downstairs or nothing, but it got broken accidentally. 148 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: And then my grandfather brought me this electric guitar that 149 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: had the amp built into it. And I still got 150 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: that guitar. It's upstairs in my closet right now. But 151 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: there's pictures of me on stage with him and that guitar, 152 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: and you know, I think it's because whenever I went 153 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: on stage with my grandfather when I was young, I 154 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: had so much fun. And then when I turned about thirteen, 155 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: A frozen, like a dared headlights up there, and I like, yeah, 156 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: I froze so bad that I pushed music out of 157 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: my mind. I was like, okay, I'm never doing this again, 158 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: and I went and enjoying the workforce, you know. And 159 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: it wasn't until my mind im and got sick that 160 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: I decided to get back into music. And by then 161 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: I was already thirty years old, and I hadn't pursued 162 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: any kind of music at all other than vocals because 163 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: I worked on a cotton farm for like ten years, 164 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: and when you're on a tractor, you sing to yourself 165 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: a lot. 166 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: I had my vocals down. 167 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: I know tons of songs and vocally, but here recently, 168 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: me and my wife have been taking guitar lessons, you 169 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean, And we've been sort of picking 170 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: that it a little bit here and there, and my 171 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: guitar players kind of pushing me towards learning more and more. 172 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: And hopefully within the next year I'll be playing guitar 173 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: on stage. But for right now, I'm a vocalist. 174 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: And your mom did push you back into the business 175 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 4: when she had gotten sick, is that correct? 176 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 177 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, she asked me to please try and pursue something 178 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: in music. You know, I didn't see it coming, you know, 179 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't even know she wanted that from me. 180 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: She asked me to please pursue something in music, and 181 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: I promised her I would. So I threw myself at 182 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: the wall to see if i'd stick, and I hang out. 183 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: I barely hung home when I threw myself into oh, 184 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 2: and I started doing everything wrong. You know, I mean, 185 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: I didn't do anything right for years, and eventually I 186 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: kind of got a niche figured out what I was 187 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: doing wrong, and I went and got a little help 188 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: and got back out here and started doing a lot 189 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: of things right. I'm still doing a few things wrong 190 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: here and there as far as business decisions, you know, 191 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: I mean, which living to learn, and I feel like 192 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm in a better place now than I've ever been. 193 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 4: So we produce, as you know, this other podcast called 194 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: music Save Me, which you're gonna be very generous with 195 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: your time. And beyond that one, but let's touch on 196 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 4: that moment where you realized you had really hit bottom 197 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: and you needed to make a change. What was that moment? 198 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: Like, Well, I had met the woman who was now 199 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: my wife in my entire life, you know me, I 200 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: met her, and I met her in the strangest place, 201 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: my drummer at the time. It was her his step daughter, 202 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: and me and her hit it off really well. And 203 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: you know, we started we met in the same kind 204 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: of mess that we were both in the same kind 205 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: of mess, and I made a bunch of wrong decisions 206 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: as far as relationships in my life. I pushed women 207 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: away for a lot of years and I pushed them 208 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: away blatantly, like really determined to do that. And it 209 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: was different with her. 210 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: But I made a bad. 211 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: Mistake and when I made it, I felt it. I 212 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: hadn't felt it before before I made that mistake and 213 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: it was just like, Okay, well, let's keep moving. I 214 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: made that mistake this time, and I felt it, and 215 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: I felt like I lost her. I really lost something 216 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: this time. So I went to my manager had been 217 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: begging me for years to go to rehab. I was 218 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 2: addicted to drugs and alcohol for about twenty seven years 219 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: and finally agreed to go to rehab. And I'm glad 220 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: I did because I learned more about drug addiction and 221 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: alcohol addiction and I'd never known before even being in 222 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: the midst of it. And I uh, I learned that 223 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: the drugs I was addicted to where it was a 224 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: mental addiction, it wasn't a physical addiction. So in a way, 225 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 2: I feel like I got out feasy because really all 226 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: I had to do was make the decision to quit. 227 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: There was no withdraws, there was nothing like that. I mean, 228 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: I drank a lot, but I was addicted to alcohol. 229 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: I drank to cover up my drug addictions. So I 230 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: quit that and I got sober. And the woman I 231 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: loved seeing me making all these strides to do better 232 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: and somehow found it in her heart to also go 233 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: to rehab. And I ran into her while I was 234 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: at rehab, and she ended up leaving before the time 235 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: was over, because it was different for females in that 236 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: rehab than it was for men and all the women 237 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: up there. It was a different it was a different thing. 238 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: But when she left, I thought she was going back 239 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 2: to drugs. But when I got out, I found out 240 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 2: she was an outpatient rehab. She had still staged sober, 241 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: and uh when. 242 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: I went in. 243 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: When I went in, I went in to get off 244 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: the drugs. I didn't get it to get off anything else, 245 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: just just the drugs. I was still going to smoke weed, 246 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: and I was still going to drink, and I was 247 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: still going to have fun, you know, I was going 248 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: to party, you know, as part of the music business, 249 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 2: I thought, and you know, it's. 250 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: Just what I'm gonna do. 251 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: When I got out, I said, Okay, well let's go 252 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: have a beer. And she was like, well, that's an 253 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: awful idea, And I was like why. And I was 254 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: never addricted to alcohol. She's like, well, you think about it. 255 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: Is you get you get a good and drunk, you're 256 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 2: going to tell yourself to go back to the drugs. 257 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, you got a pretty 258 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: good point there. So I never didn't go drink at all. 259 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: But I did start smoking weed. And God reached down 260 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: and took that weed away from me in a way 261 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: that the only way it was possible. He Uh, my 262 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: wife had gotten pregnant and things happened where CPS got 263 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: into our lives over the weed. So we cleared all 264 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: that out of the house. And then after that, I 265 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: quit smoking cigarettes. And I'm just telling you I've worked 266 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: in my life in a way did he cleaned out 267 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 2: every vice I had? 268 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: You know? I mean, I don't have any vices anymore. 269 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: I don't smoke, I don't bake, I don't smoke weed, 270 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: I don't drink, I don't do drugs, and. 271 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: I have it for years and years. You know. 272 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: That's how I know the glory of God is that 273 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: when you're ready and when you make the decisions to 274 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: start hitting in the right direction, He's going to reach 275 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: down there and make sure you're really headed in that 276 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: direction and He saved my life, and I've given all 277 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: the glory to God and that day forward, because I 278 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: wouldn't be the man I was to day of Wood 279 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: for all them instances happening in my life. 280 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: That's how I got to where I'm at today. 281 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 4: Thank you for sharing that. 282 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: Oh, You're very welcome. 283 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 4: I really appreciate it. So how do you feel about 284 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: the way, certainly, you know the Nashville music community categorizes 285 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 4: music styles inside of country music. What's your opinion of that? 286 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think my opinion of that is that back 287 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: in the day, we had like a few, very few genres, 288 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: and there were very few styles of music to fit 289 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: into them genres. And what we have done today is 290 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: we've gotten we've accumulated new genres, but not created new genres, 291 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: so we just kind of put them where they go. 292 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: We still were still putting all this new music, there's 293 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: new amazing music into the same fuse genres, because I 294 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: think if you separate the genres up, it would send 295 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: everything in so many directions that you wouldn't be able 296 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: to catch any of the music. So I'm thinking that's 297 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: probably how that's how it happened. Because I'll tell you 298 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: what I enjoyed most of the music in South to Day. 299 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: It ain't my cup of tea because I play different 300 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: kinds of music because that's what I could do. It's like, 301 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: all I can do is what I can do, and 302 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: just like any other artists, all they can do is 303 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: what they can do. They've only got these genres to 304 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: put what they do in or what I do in. 305 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: Then we're gonna get stuck in genres that we don't 306 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: all the times fit in. But about it is, I 307 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: feel like I'm more rock and roll than I am 308 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: country because I got a lot of rock and country songs, 309 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: you know, but I'm in an outlaw country genre because 310 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: you know, it's just I really don't believe that that 311 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: too much matters too much. I think a lot of 312 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: people move miss a lot of good music because they 313 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: spend too much time I'm saying, well, that's not rock 314 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: and roll, or that's not country, or that's not rap, 315 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: or that's not R and B, or that's not gospel. 316 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: But the thing about it is, no matter what genre 317 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: you want to put it in, it is music, and 318 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: it is music, and somebody out there enjoys it or 319 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be there. So whether it be Nashville or Texas, 320 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: or California or New York or whatever it is. I 321 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: think what people need to do is when they listen 322 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: to music, if they think it's in the wrong genre, 323 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: then you know, classified in a different genre in your 324 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: own mind, and just enjoy it as the way I 325 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: feel about it. 326 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: So tell me how joyful for you it is to 327 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 4: play in front of people. 328 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: That's the most amazing thing in the world to me, 329 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Other than my family and 330 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: spending time my family is the most amazing thing in 331 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: the world. But getting up on that stage and performing 332 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: for people and seeing people enjoy what I do is 333 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: it makes what I do possible. 334 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: Because if I got up there. 335 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: And I was just background music and nobody enjoyed what 336 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: I did, I'd probably go find another thing to do. 337 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: But see everybody just ripping and roaring over the music 338 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: we're playing, and not even just my grandfather's music, my 339 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: own music as well, because I've been on a little 340 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: journey for the last five years. When I first got 341 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: out of rehab, I wanted to save the world, and 342 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: you can't really do that right off the bat because 343 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: you're not healthy yet. But I put out a lot 344 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: of music I thought would touch people like me, and 345 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: then the next project I put out, I got a 346 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: little more trying to you know, add a little bit 347 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: of the party into still trying to help people. And 348 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: on this one, I'm doing the same thing in a 349 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: broader scope. Because I've been putting out EPs for the 350 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: past three years. This year, I'm putting out an LP. 351 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: I'm putting out a full album, and it's got something 352 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: for everybody on it. 353 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: And right now. 354 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: My mind is a pretzel trying to figure out which 355 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: ones to make singles, which ones to make videos, which 356 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: one to even make. 357 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: The title track. 358 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: I've got a pretty good idea which one's going to 359 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: be the title track because it sort of in cases 360 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: the whole project. It's really the only song that can 361 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: in case the whole project because there's someting something for 362 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: everybody in it. 363 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I've. 364 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 2: Got really power ballads, I've got really hard rockers. I've 365 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 2: got that's just like love songs and country songs. I 366 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: got a couple of songs that touch on the gospel 367 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: I've got. It's just something I'm so proud of that 368 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: I wish I had a million dollars to do everything 369 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: I want to do with it, because if it was 370 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: up to me, I'd be making eleven videos and promoting 371 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: that promoting them because they're all that good to me, 372 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I've never been so proud of 373 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 2: a project in my life, and for this to be 374 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: my first full eighth album, it really touches my soul. 375 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: It does. 376 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: And but like I said, I'm biased because it's my project, 377 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: but I was super proud of my last last project, 378 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: and now I'm looking back at that last project and 379 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: then looking at this one, and I'm like, that last 380 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 2: one was great, but. 381 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to call this one. This 382 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: one is going to be really good. 383 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 2: So I really hope everybody's looking forward to this new 384 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: project because I just wanted to hit some ears, because 385 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: I promise you every year it hits, it's going to 386 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: show it to another set of years. Because I feel 387 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: that strongly about this project. 388 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 4: That's awesome. Congratulations on it. Who are the musicians of 389 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 4: today that influence you, I wouldn't say influence that you like. 390 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: Well, I like most of them, honestly, you know what 391 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean. There ain't nothing. 392 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: There's not an artist out there I don't like something, 393 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 2: but I don't think right now. 394 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: Like I like what j other Roll is doing, a 395 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: lot of people don't. 396 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: Call it country and you know, I mean, I don't 397 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: know what she would classify, but it's really good. It 398 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: touches people's souls. I've seen it do it live. And 399 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: he's my he's my cousin's best friends. I'm kind of 400 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: biased on that too because I want to see my 401 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: cousins succeed because he's a really good artists too, struggle 402 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 2: Jettings and he does great, great things too. 403 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: And they they're not only. 404 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 2: Great musicians, they really are good for their communities, you 405 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: know what I mean. They try to help people, you 406 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: know what I mean, And that to me is more 407 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: important than it's being a great musician. It's helping people 408 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 2: that need your help is what you needs to be 409 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 2: doing with your platform. But my strongest influences are going 410 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: to be like Jamie Johnson, Chris Jansen, Chris Tapleton, because 411 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: they're a lot more like me, Like they're the kind 412 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: of performers like me. Those are the ones that I 413 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: have influenced. And of course all the older influences, you know, 414 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: like Willie Nelson and Johnny Cash and Wayvin Jennings of course, 415 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: and Jesse Culture and Shooter Jennings is probably the most 416 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 2: complex musician I can think of to date, and he's 417 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: got so much talent in so many different areas, and 418 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: a lot of people don't even understand it because a 419 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: lot of people don't know that him and Brady Carlisle 420 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: are like the best team when it comes to producing music. 421 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: They're like they get together and they work. It just 422 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: works that way. 423 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 2: But I've got so many influencers and music now, just 424 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: because I know so many different people. Ray Scott's He's 425 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: a really good guy. Darryl Worthy, great guy, Tray Sackins, 426 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: great guy. Trace Atkins got one of the deepest voices 427 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: I've ever heard, and what he can do with his voice, 428 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: I've been trying to mimic it and I just can't 429 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 2: do it. He's really good. And you know, of course 430 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: Toby Keith is passing. It really got to me. 431 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: And what's crazy is that blindsided. I don't think just me. 432 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: I think it blindsided the world because I've seen where 433 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 2: other people passed away in music. You know, your news 434 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: feed will have this and that and the other. But 435 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: like for the last three days, my entire news feed 436 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: has been all Toby Keith. So he's a very loving man, 437 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: and I can see why. And I think I'm kind 438 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: of surprised at myself that I let that go unnoticed 439 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: for so long until he passed away. 440 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy, isn't that remarkable? How we do that? 441 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 4: You know, we all do that from time to time. 442 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: We don't realize something or someone is special, and then 443 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: they pass and then. 444 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and then you realize just how special they were. 445 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: I know it, you know it's wild, but I've never 446 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: seen it to that extent. I mean that shook the 447 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: whole world. I mean it shook the whole world. And 448 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: that's really wild. 449 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: Man. 450 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 4: So way, in closing, what do you still trying to learn? 451 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 4: That would be a goal of yours to try to 452 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: learn along the way, whether it be life or music. 453 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: Well, what I like to learn along the way is 454 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: how to last. Like I've been doing this for twelve years. 455 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: I've been getting noticed for like the last three or 456 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: four years. But a lot of artists that get noticed 457 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: and then they just paid away. I want to learn 458 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: how to last, not only last, I want to learn 459 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: how how to work the internet a little better. To 460 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: get to where people actually hear my music, because right 461 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 2: now I'm putting out music and I'm throwing it out 462 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: into a sea of music and just hopes that people 463 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: hear it. What I like to do is figure out 464 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: how to put it on a giant ship and you 465 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: float it over in front of everybody and they have 466 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: no choice but to see it, because I believe what 467 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: we're doing is it is powerful, and I believe it's 468 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: going to change lives. I want to be an entertainer, 469 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: but I also want to be somebody who makes you 470 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: think about not only who you are, but who everyone 471 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: around you is, and how to make this world a 472 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: better place, because right now we got a big open 473 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: wound than he's healing, and I believe the only care 474 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: for that is going to be through music. And if 475 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: it's if it gets lost in the midst of all 476 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: the other music, then it's you know, and void. 477 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 478 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: I like to figure out how to get my most 479 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: powerful songs that I believe in the most in the 480 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: ears to make people think about what I believe the 481 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: problems are, what I believe that solved the solutions are, 482 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: And not only would I believe, but with a lot 483 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: of people that I talk to around me believe as well. 484 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: The solution to any of this is never going to 485 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: be through hate. It's all got to come from a 486 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: point of understanding. If we could all figure out how 487 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: to understand each other and stop screaming at each other, 488 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 2: this world will turned into a better place because right now, 489 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: both sides of every huge problem in this world has 490 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: a point. But the problem is neither side can understand 491 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: the point of the other sides of any problem we have. 492 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: What I'm trying to do is as I'm trying to 493 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: create an entertaining solution to things, you know, I mean 494 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: things that people feel. That's what I want. I want 495 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: people to feel my music, and not even just my music. 496 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: I want people to feel the important music to be 497 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: created by all the artists. There's more power in music 498 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: than making you go out and party. I mean, there's 499 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: power in music can save the world. And I believe that. 500 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: I just watched the documentary the other day. It was 501 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: like the biggest knight and pop and to see that 502 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: one song the difference had made in the world at 503 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: that time, right there should be proof enough that the 504 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 2: world can be saved by music and that's just what 505 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: I want to be able to be a small part 506 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: of that. 507 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. 508 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 4: Your grandfather actually was a part of that, and then 509 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 4: he slipped out after a while, right. 510 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure he regretted that after a while. 511 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 2: He probably didn't know the severity of the impact because 512 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: of the impact that song was going to have on 513 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: the world. Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that you know, 514 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: we all at the end of our journey are going 515 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: to look back and have a gretch, you know, and 516 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: you know they made they laughed it off of that thing. 517 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: But I'm sure I'm almost certain that the heart that 518 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: I know my grandfather had, and you know how much 519 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: he loved the world we live in, that when he 520 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: looked back, that was one of his requests that he 521 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: didn't stick around for that because that song ended up 522 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: being a very, very powerful instrument and shaved a lot 523 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: of lives. 524 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: Yep. 525 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 4: Well, way, thanks for being on the Taking a Walk 526 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 4: and sharing your journey, and congrats on all the work 527 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 4: and the tour and appreciate what you do. 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