1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: In an interview with NBC News in San Diego, Jim Desmond, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: who is a supervisor for San Diego County, stated, we're 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: not the Immigration Department. We don't have these resources, and 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: he'd made it clear this is not a Republican or 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Democrat problem, it's an American problem. Jim Desmond joins us now. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: He is indeed the supervisor for District five San Diego County. Jim, 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: it's always great to talk. 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: How are you hey, great, Thanks for having me on today. 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure. So we heard from New York 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: there in Eagle Pass, Texas, among other places. What's the 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: situation in San Diego County in terms of the flood 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: of immigrants. 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: Well, in the last eight days here in San Diego County, 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: we've gotten over forty eight hundred people have been dropped off, 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: roughly five to six hundred per day, and our facilities 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: are overwhelmed and or at capacity. And these drops offs 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: are just happening at transit center. So the same with 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: transit centers, and so we have no idea until like 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: a couple hours before how many people are coming and 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: where the go being dropped off, and it's just overwhelming. 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: We don't have the resources or the facilities to accommodate 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: these people. It's not fair to the neighborhoods that they're 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: being dropped off. It's not even fair to the migrants. 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: They don't know how to use our transportation system and 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: what they're doing. So I think it's a failed immigration system. 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: That you know, if you have to climb under a 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: fence or over a fence or through a river to 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: get here, and then you get dropped off at a 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: transportation center without any resources or even bathrooms in some cases, 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: it's just chaos and it needs to be resolved. And well, 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: once you get your facilities a capacity, you stop. It's 32 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: like porn a glass of water. You don't just keep 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: pouring once the glass is full. 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Well, and I realize you're about solutions, but I'm going 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: to gripe just a little bit. It strikes me that 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: what the federal government is doing is precisely what they 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: and many Democrat governors and other people around the country 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: were condemning, just viciously brutally when Greg Abbott or Ron 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: DeSantis was busting people to their jurisdiction. We just found 40 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: out about this a couple hours a couple of days ago, 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: we got these people showed up, we don't know what 42 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: to do with them. Now the federal government is doing 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: exactly that same. 44 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Thing well, and the federal government's been doing it for 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: a long time, even before Abbott and the stances we're 46 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: doing that, so they've been doing it for a while. 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: It's just ramped up a lot more here recently, and 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: it's you know that our neighbors don't know what to do, 49 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: you know, what to do or how to feel or 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: what you know how to deal with these people, and 51 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: it's just become overwhelming. A lot of them move on, 52 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: a lot of them have sponsors throughout the country, and 53 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: that's kind of our main goal is help them move, 54 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: help them get to their sponsors, but some of them don't. 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: We're using homeless hotel vouchers for some of them, and 56 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: these are hotel vouchers that are supposed to be being 57 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: used for homeless people. But now we're having to use 58 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: resources to help to house some of these migrants that 59 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 2: are coming here, and we just don't have the resources 60 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: for the personnel to do this. This is the federal 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: government problem, and their system is broken, and neither side 62 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: really seems to want to fix it. 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: Right, So you said, it's not a Republican Democrat issue, 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: it's an everybody issue. And one of the things that 65 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: drives us crazy and has for years, is there is 66 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: a lot of agreement on this issue. It shouldn't be 67 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: that polarizing. I just brought up the latest Gallop polling 68 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 3: on this. Solid majorities of Americans think immigration is good 69 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: for the country, like close to seventy percent. But do 70 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: people think it's a crisis at the border? Almost forty 71 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: percent call us a crisis, thirty three percent called a 72 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: major problem, for a total of seventy two percent. So 73 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: most the vast majority of people are fine with immigration. 74 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: They think it's good for the country, but the vast 75 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: majority want to do something about the problem at the border. 76 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: So why can't we move on this. 77 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: Well, we got to let people into Congress and the 78 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: Senate that are willing to, you know, take this up 79 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: and make it an issue. It's kind of bittersweet, you know, 80 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: in Santygoo County, we're at the border, so we have 81 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: this issue constantly. But but it's good to see Chicago 82 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: and New York and other places are saying, hey, this 83 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: is affecting us now. Well, these are the policies that 84 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: your leaders have put in place. And when those policies 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: show up at your doorstep, now you don't like it, right? 86 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you know. I've gained some weight 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: from it's because the irony has been so delicious and 88 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: the hypocrisy is so sweet over the last several weeks, 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: and I've been enjoying it. That, yeah, exactly. That. Hearing 90 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: the mayor of New York say things that people have 91 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: been saying in San Diego and Eagle Pass, Texas for 92 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: like twenty five years is quite amazing. 93 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Well, in credit to the Babylon b for the headline 94 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: Democrats complaining immigrants are ruining their sanctuary cities. I mean, 95 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: it's just one more delicious, sweet cupcake of irony. So, 96 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: Jim Desmond of San Diego County Border Soups is on 97 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: the line, So you need federal help financing facilities, et cetera. 98 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Is there any sign that they might be forthcoming? 99 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: Uh? No, And and we don't even know how many 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: you know where the end is in sight for the 101 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: for the releases that they're doing, do you, honestly do? 102 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: I really don't want their money so that we can 103 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, do their job. I want them to do 104 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: their job, them to step it up, them to put 105 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: in the facilities and know when their limitations are met. 106 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: And then you stop letting people in for a while 107 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: and untill your capacity allows for more. You know, I 108 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: do think we all want to keep the bad people 109 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: out let the good people in. We got lots of 110 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 2: jobs available in this country. Most people are well meaning. 111 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: I would do the same thing if I were in 112 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: their shoes, and let's do it, do it humanly. Let 113 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: people give them a week time period. Hey, show up, 114 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: you and your family at this border patrol, at this 115 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: entry place. Well, you know process, you screen you and 116 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: and you know help you get to get on your way. 117 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: But it's just chaos right now. And I do think 118 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: the country is ready for it. It's just we got 119 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: to get the Congress. 120 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: How difficult has it been to not call Eric Adams 121 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: New York and say and hang. 122 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: Up, well, I don't have I don't have his number, 123 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: But but it is Jack. 124 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: That would not be productive, No, it wouldn't be productive. 125 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: It's it's it's going in the opposite direction of what 126 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: we're talking about here. And I apologize for bringing up. 127 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: That's right, Jim Desmond A go ahead. 128 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say. People have asked me, well, 129 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: why don't you sue the federal government and it's like 130 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 2: two government agencies suing each other. Is it's a huge 131 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: waste of tax dollars. Let's get people into these positions 132 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: that are willing to make these changes and and make 133 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: that happen, and make immigration a huge issue hopefully for 134 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: the this next election. Maybe maybe we'll get some results. 135 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: Michael, do you have our favorite Alejandro Majorcas clip at hand? 136 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm confused on this point, Jim. The border is secure? 137 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: Jeez, what is he talking about? 138 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: How does he get away with saying that? 139 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: Obviously he doesn't watch the news. Uh, you're seeing all 140 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: these people coming across, and you're seeing both sides finely 141 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: as the media reporting on this, which is good. 142 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: That is good, And I'm curious. San Diego, one of 143 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: the great cities on Earth, has swung leftward in recent 144 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: years to our distress. Are you hearing similar sentiments on 145 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: both sides of the aisle just in San Diego County? 146 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: Unfortunately I'm sort of a lone voice here lately, really 147 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: a little bit, but not a lot. Well, it's you know, 148 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: they don't. They know Biden administrations and charges. People don't 149 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: want to you know, make their own party mad at 150 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: them for bringing these types of mess. 151 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: But I see, I don't get it. I was talking 152 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: about it earlier and I'm continuing to look over the 153 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: gallop pulling. It's it's it's more stark than I even remembered. 154 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: People think this is a huge problem. It's a disaster 155 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: that it's not being handled correctly. Joe Biden's numbers are 156 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: in the toilet over immigration. What has he got to lose? 157 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: I just well, and it's obviously not just party over country, 158 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: but party over local community, which is just shocking. 159 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a federal government just not doing their 160 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: job and not taking control of the and treating people humanely. 161 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: I mean, this is not how when I went down 162 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: to the border when Title forty two is being lifted, 163 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: I looked across the fence and there was just the 164 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: hundreds of families and children and they all had, you know, 165 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: despair on their faces and trying to get over and 166 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: just trying to figure out the chaos. We needed just 167 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: a better system so the good people can come in, 168 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: we keep the bad people out. And then bent and 169 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: all in human trafficking. We can stop that as well. 170 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: It just seems like a good issue to you know 171 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: that this country needs to grapple with and do it soon. 172 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: Jim Desmond, the fifth District of San Diego County, is 173 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: a supervisor. Jim, good to talk to you. Keep fighting 174 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: a good fight. 175 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks a lot, guys, I love listening to your podcast.