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Speaker 1: My wife boned my best friend. I refuse to forgive them,

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Speaker 1: and I'm plotting to ruin their lives? Am I the

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Speaker 1: a whole?

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Speaker 2: I feel like your best friend is just trying to

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Speaker 2: understand your life experience and just get closer to you

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Speaker 2: by bonding your girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's there's only so many things we can

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Speaker 1: share in life and when you should share it all.

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Speaker 1: How special of a bond to have shared, like, like

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Speaker 1: every experience, including and banging your wife. I think that works. Wow?

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Speaker 1: How beautiful? So pooped the cheater in question former best friend,

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Speaker 1: So pooped. My former best friend and Sarah have been

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Speaker 1: like family to my wife and I for several years,

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Speaker 1: practically ever since we moved in across the street from them.

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Speaker 1: The four of us were extremely tight. That wasn't the

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Speaker 1: only thing that was tight. A yo, your wife's foot tight.

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Speaker 1: He's not, though. Ooh. Our kids are the same age

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Speaker 1: as theirs and all are good friends. We are one

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Speaker 1: big family unit, very close. How close, like like overlapping,

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Speaker 1: Oh god, going through centric circles? Oh god? We are

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Speaker 1: one big family unit. We did dinner together a few

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Speaker 1: times a week, We went on vacations together. I truly

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Speaker 1: saw poop Head as a brother, and my wife and

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Speaker 1: Sarah were very close too. Oh man. Five months ago,

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Speaker 1: I was completely blindsided by the discovery of an affair

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Speaker 1: between my wife and poop Head. Poopead, what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: And his wife? Poop off your head? And yeah, then

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Speaker 1: I mean which head is it on? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Is he poop Head? Because they're into some weird stuff

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Speaker 2: then or maybe just anal or maybe just regular old

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Speaker 2: put it in and gosh it, there's poop in my head.

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Speaker 1: Look at that. And that's that's where you got his

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Speaker 1: name from. That's where you goys. Oh god. My wife

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Speaker 1: had left her email open on her computer and I

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Speaker 1: saw an email from heating over email. People do come

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Speaker 1: on like get it, get a snapchat, get a snapchat,

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Speaker 1: get a TikTok something, at least make some content around it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how I cheat on my husband? Well, well by exposing

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Speaker 1: myself on TikTok. That's out in more raysan one, I

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Speaker 1: saw an email from her longtime therapist saying that poop

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Speaker 1: Head would be joining her at an upcoming session. Again, wait,

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Speaker 1: why is poop heead going to therapy? You know he's

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Speaker 1: he's got all this poop in his head and he

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Speaker 1: just needs to.

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Speaker 2: Need to get it out, you know, he needs to

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Speaker 2: defecate all over that therapy.

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Speaker 1: He needs to communicate through his bowels, you know. I thought, uh, WTF.

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Speaker 1: My mind started racing, Why in the world would poopead

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Speaker 1: be going into her therapy sessions without my knowledge. I

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Speaker 1: did a search and found some other emails from the therapist,

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Speaker 1: proving that Pooped had been going to sessions together with

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Speaker 1: her for about six weeks. What it is getting weirder?

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Speaker 1: I checked our mobile phone account and discovered that since

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Speaker 1: late summer they had been exchanging hundreds of texts every day, hundreds,

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Speaker 1: peaking at nearly five hundred per day by the holidays.

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Speaker 1: How do you eat even send that many texts? That's

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Speaker 1: like all day. You just got to be like just

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Speaker 1: like that's constantly sending back and forth.

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Speaker 2: I remember back maybe in middle school, like I would

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Speaker 2: I am girls late into the night. Yeah, and like

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Speaker 2: even then hundreds that's like four hours straight of texting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I could I could see maybe there's like

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Speaker 1: and it's really whatever's going on like icy every day? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: Oh my God, just get to our phone call at

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Speaker 2: that point, I guess unless your husband's right there. That's

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Speaker 2: why you gotta do all the texts. Okay, I see

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Speaker 2: I see poop Head. That poop head of yours is

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Speaker 2: so pos Oh God.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the holidays, my wife and I hosted both

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Speaker 1: of our families, parents, siblings, et cetera for both Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: and Christmas dinner, and poop Heed and Sarah joined us

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Speaker 1: either for dinner or after dinner on both holidays. Is

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Speaker 1: Sarah no, though, that's the question. That's a question. That's

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Speaker 1: the question. Text records showed the entire time that they

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Speaker 1: were at our house celebrating with our family, my wife

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Speaker 1: and poop Head were texting each other from across the room.

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Speaker 1: They were doing that pretty much every time the four

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Speaker 2: Oh how were they texting without everyone knowing? Like like

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Speaker 2: without realize like like cause, like to text that much,

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Speaker 2: you got to be looking at your phone a bunch, right, You.

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Speaker 1: Got to be looking at the phone. And also like

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Speaker 2: Side that'd be suspicious, and like you're getting notifications too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is really weird. Weird that they haven't

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Speaker 1: just in general. But what bothers me the most is

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Speaker 1: that they were doing it with Sarah and I right,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, probably made it hotter. Yeah, yeah, freaking

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Speaker 1: so warm. I confronted my wife with the evidence, and

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if you're texting five hundred times a day,

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Speaker 2: that's love.

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Speaker 1: If we're trying to.

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Speaker 2: Put it into a formula, that that sounds like love

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Speaker 1: Dude, this is so bad. Yeah, it just happened. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how, but I love him, and I just

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Speaker 1: don't feel anything for you anymore, or anything anything. I'm

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Speaker 1: so sorry. Yeahikes, dude, geez, nothing. I don't feel anything.

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Speaker 2: Dude, he's the father of your children. You feel nothing

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Speaker 1: And when I say I don't feel anything, I don't

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Speaker 2: It's you know, like, hey got a train, you got

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Speaker 2: you got a tricycle.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Ouch. They had gone on a school district

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Speaker 1: trip together. Something had happened in her hotel room, and

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Speaker 1: things have moved quickly from there. Oh god, I'm so sorry. Ope,

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Speaker 1: that sucks. She explained as I lay face down on

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Speaker 1: already made plans to move out and divorce me and Sarah,

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Speaker 1: and while they didn't plan to move in together immediately

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Speaker 1: The meetings with the therapists were supposedly mostly for the

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Speaker 1: purpose of finding a way to break this to me

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Speaker 1: and Sarah as gently as possible, because they were so

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Speaker 1: very concerned for our well being. Thank you for your concern.

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Speaker 2: Wow, where was that concern where you boned in each

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Speaker 1: You know, we just we just wanted to do that. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know I'm stabbing you in the heart

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Speaker 2: right now, but I'm really concerned about like taking out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I I like, how do you want

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Speaker 1: I brought you some paper towels, by the way, I

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Speaker 2: It brought you a brownie while I'm twisting the knife.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, enjoy, You're welcome. Yeah, You're welcome eat this, you

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Speaker 1: little head. Well you your best friends, Sarah and I

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Speaker 1: are fairly certain that they weren't planning on telling us

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Speaker 1: after they'd come up with some other reason to divorce.

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Speaker 2: The shitty Yeah, oh my god. But then also like,

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Speaker 2: and we can maybe save this to the end, But

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Speaker 2: it's almost like, do you even want to know at

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Speaker 1: Probably not? Yeah, yeah, I've probably hurt pretty bad. My

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Speaker 1: am utterly destroyed. I cry every day. I cried writing

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Speaker 1: the first few paragraphs of the story just now. I

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Speaker 1: also not exactly a shrinking violet when I feel that

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Speaker 1: I've been wronged, and in this case, I was objectively

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Speaker 1: very very wronged. You are correct, Opie, very very wrong. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks ago, hooped ran for a

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Speaker 1: helped him with his campaign materials and debate prep, and

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Speaker 1: my wife, as a well known school district employee. This

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Speaker 1: becomes important later, Oh, I sent some vengeance of Ruin. Well,

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Speaker 1: she got the word out the best she could. Much

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Speaker 1: to our surprise, he actually won in a squeaker by

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Speaker 1: just a few dozen votes. Being on the board became

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Speaker 1: the center of Pooped's world. He joined every committee that

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Speaker 1: he could. This turned into the foundation of his affair

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean, hey, they had great work in chemistry.

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Speaker 2: They probably got a lot done for that school board.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I really think this is a group project.

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Speaker 2: I think we need all hands on this, on this

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Speaker 2: this being mind dick. Once I discovered the affair, my

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Speaker 1: Nice. It occurred to me that the extramarital affair between

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Speaker 1: that was at least bad politics and possibly violated district policy.

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Speaker 1: Making things far worse for them was that my wife

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Speaker 1: Oh man. She had just finished her master's degree in

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Speaker 1: school administration at the urging of her principle and the

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Speaker 1: So yeah, she literally all the higher ups are like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: get this and we'll we'll get you in. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And Op's hatchet a plan to bring it all down.

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Speaker 1: Oh god. I had plenty of evidence of the affair,

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Speaker 1: texts from both of them admitting to it, text records

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Speaker 1: showing that they were texting hundreds of times a day.

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Speaker 1: There's texting about work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, about the school.

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Speaker 1: I think we really need to slam down on this one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's weird. This is going to take some hard or

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Speaker 1: hard long work, some steamy work. I know. I know

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Speaker 1: one will be nice, quick and clean. Yeah. I considered

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Speaker 1: simply emailing all the evidence of the board and the superintendent,

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Speaker 1: but I felt like, as the grieving betrayed spouse, that

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Speaker 1: instead I invented a fictitious, furious friend who is planning

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Speaker 1: shaming the two of them for their affair. I told

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Speaker 1: but couldn't guarantee that they wouldn't show up and humiliate

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Speaker 1: them publicly as I expected. This led Poopead to conclude

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Speaker 1: that the only option was for him to preemptively admit

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Speaker 1: the affair to the board directly, so for real. Wow.

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Speaker 1: The superintendent subsequently recommended that Poophead resign, which he did. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Sarah said that he was utterly humiliated and crushed and

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Speaker 1: barely got out of bed for a few days afterwards.

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Speaker 1: So Sarah still with him.

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Speaker 2: I mean for the time being. I guess they're both

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Speaker 2: like living together, right, Like OPI and Sarah should get together, right.

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Speaker 1: That would make it full circle and then just send

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Speaker 1: them send them a bunch of of of during videos

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Speaker 1: like yeah, you guys like this? Ah, you like it,

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Speaker 1: don't you?

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Speaker 2: And then they become one happy family again. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: For their act. God. Really, my wife and I, despite

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Speaker 2: The Jonah Hill thing where it's like basically he was

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Speaker 2: See Jonah Hill's committed to you. Wow, Wow, he didn't

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for Jonah Hill, dude, because he just

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Speaker 1: Hey, Sam, you're pretty cool. Thanks, You're way cooler than Jahans.

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Speaker 1: I opened up to my boyfriend about my past sugar

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Speaker 1: Oh specifically, I had a very rough upbringing with parents

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Speaker 2: Dude, that's a really big secret that she just shared,

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Speaker 2: In retrospect, definitely weird, yeah, very weird. It lasted throughout

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Speaker 2: But I mean, hey, he can break up with whoever

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Speaker 1: However, I did not expect that he would go to

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Speaker 1: This is insane. I just found out about this on Friday,

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Speaker 1: like how in the wrong am I should I just

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Speaker 2: This guy is a piece of work. There is an

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Speaker 2: update where to find out what happens, but I, like,

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Speaker 2: I can't. It's such it's so weird that he went

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Speaker 1: known people that have been in sugar at situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like a like a very casual like you was anything

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00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: crazy that we're doing? Sugar daddy. It kind of makes sense,

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00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: especially a lot of them. It's just like go out

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00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: to dinner and stuff like that. They just like dinner

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00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: paid for and look, you know what if if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to stay with her whatever it's it says,

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00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: let's go to your employer. That is so just the employer.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing to be done. No, no, Like, I don't

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00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 2: even know why they're taking it seriously.

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00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: Just doesn't seem like a big deal at all to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We're just so progressive. Yeah, we're so woke,

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00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,959
Speaker 1: woke daddy's. But let's see what happened here on this update.

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Speaker 1: I know many folks requested an update after my meeting

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Speaker 1: with HR that took place earlier this week. First, I

447
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: did retain an attorney who accompanied me to the meeting.

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00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: That is actually genius. That was really smart. Unfortunately it

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00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: didn't really help in this case. Is I was fired

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Speaker 1: for cause, oh my god, no severance or transition period

451
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Speaker 1: due to the potential to bring scandal slash aim to

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Speaker 1: the company for my past as a prostitute. Where's the proof? Yeah,

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00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: where's the proof? Like, how do they have legal grounds

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Speaker 1: to do this? Not just the proof, but also just

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Speaker 1: discrimination laws, employees, employment laws, Like I feel like this

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00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: is breaking every law, like multiple things.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand how they could do that. I'm surprised

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Speaker 2: the lawyer didn't help. I feel like there's an ability

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Speaker 2: to have.

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Speaker 1: A lawsuit here. Definitely, definitely, which hopefully is what happens,

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Speaker 1: even though my company doesn't have a morality clause restricting

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Speaker 1: sexual behavior or anything, even though it was twenty years ago,

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Speaker 1: and even though it was one relationship and not ongoing

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Speaker 1: escort work. Yes, I am exploring further legal action both

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Speaker 1: against my former employer and Joe, mostly against the company

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Speaker 1: as I'm investigating, for example, if they have penalized women

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Speaker 1: for their sexual past but not men. Yeah, if they

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Speaker 1: pull this kind of bolt, Like doesn't make sense to

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Speaker 1: penalize someone for their sexual past. There's no proof, so

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Speaker 1: many like laws they're breaking, and so many things they're

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00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: doing wrong here with the company. Why couldn't she just.

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Speaker 2: Say, yeah, I had a relationship with a guy and

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Speaker 2: he supported me.

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Speaker 1: What is the deal? A lot of men support their partners.

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Speaker 1: What's the difference between like a relationship where it's like

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00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: we just call each other boyfriend and girlfriend? Yeah, but

477
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Speaker 1: like this is bolder. Thankfully, I've been very careful with

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Speaker 1: money and have enough to set aside to manage for

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Speaker 1: a few years if needed, until I can get this resolved.

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Speaker 1: I know this isn't the most satisfying update, but I

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00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: know a lot of people were curious about what did

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Speaker 1: happen at the meeting. I do remain grateful for so

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Speaker 1: many kind comments on my original post, So more info. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to name and shame in terms of

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Speaker 1: the company. Wish I could, but after this post slash thread,

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Speaker 1: I won't be discussing further to avoid compromising my case.

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Speaker 1: Maybe way down the road once any legal issues are resolved. Wow,

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Speaker 1: what a ridiculously insane thing for an employer to do.

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Speaker 2: I know, I can't imagine that it's legal. I feel

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Speaker 2: like they're going to get screwed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would heavily suggest ope, get a second opinion

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Speaker 1: from another lawyer if the lawyer was like, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: just caught like even us, like we're not lawyers, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're making so many laws yeah, and

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Speaker 1: just generally being les. Yeah, this doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense at all.

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Speaker 2: But what do you think I mean, I would love

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Speaker 2: to hear your answers in the comments. And also who's

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Speaker 2: been a sugar baby. We've got to have some sugar

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Speaker 2: babies in the comments. Please share your sugar baby stories.

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Speaker 1: Please do it. Okay, we'll see soon.

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Speaker 2: So you