1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson. I am here with Gina 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: de Vie. She is the founder of Divine Living, a 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: lifestyle and empowerment brand for women globally, the author of 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: the Audacity to Be a Queen, and accomplished speaker, transformational coach, 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: and a podcast host as well. Um, hi, Gina, how 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: are you today? I'm Greg pat I'm so delighted to 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: be in this conversation. Good, I'm so glad that you're here, 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: and I just want to dive right in because your 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: story is fascinating to me and I actually think that 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: it is basically the dream. I think it's what everyone 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: would want. You know, I'm really broke and now I'm 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: a millionaire. Like I don't know anyone who wouldn't like 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: that story. So you lived many years as a psychologist 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: and a broke, struggling one exactly. I was about to say, 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: who suffered tremendously financially because of that. So tell us 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: the story for um that life to the life that 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: you have now and what the transformation was. Yes, yes, well, 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: and just to be clear, with all due respect to 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: the psychologists out there. I have a master's degree in 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: clinical psychology, so I was a master's level clinical psychologist 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: and I became one because I've always been lit up 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: by human potential and transformation. I didn't realize that when 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: you became when I became a psychotherapist, that I became 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. My parents were school teachers, and so I 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: just grew up in like, you get a paycheck, you 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: go to college, and you get a job, and um, 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: I just and I also thought if you were good 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: at what you did, that somehow people just came so 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: extra extra naive in them having a career or anything 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: about receiving actual money, and um, it was really debilitating 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: because I don't think my story is that unique or 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: special in that I always had a bigger dream for 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: my life and I always did like the finer things 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: in life. And so I racked up student loans, I 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: racked up credit card debt, and which was just so 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: embarrassing and shameful if you're like trying to be like 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: a young like professional and get your life started out 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: in the world. And I kept ignoring it and just 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: basically I was a hope addict, Like I hoped that 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: someday would have a big life, and I hope that 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: someday the debt would go away. And I'm pretty sure 43 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: I not so secretly hoped I would just marry a 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: rich man that would like fix everything to me, except 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: for I was dating the local loser rock stars of 46 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 1: Detroit at the time, so really no no reason for 47 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: any hope. And um, after a year and a half, 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: I kept doing the same thing, hoping for a different result, 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: taking on more clients, working harder, working saturdays, taking on 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: it was just like get a side job. And at 51 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: the end of a year and a half, I hated 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: helping people. And that is not a great place for 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: anyone to be in, actually, when you make your living 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: doing it. And I just I had nothing. I had nothing. 55 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: I had nothing anymore. I I was empty. And so 56 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: I remember it was the end of another like seventy 57 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: five hour work week, and I went home where I 58 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: was living at the age of thirty with my parents 59 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: in the suburbs of Detroit, and I turned on I 60 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: don't know if it's like Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood 61 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: or something, and I was like, everyone there is rich 62 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: and beautiful. I'm going like I was just like I 63 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: couldn't figure out anything other than geographical cure at the time, 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: So I scraped together some quarters quit being a psychotherapist 65 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: because I had the brilliant idea of becoming a life 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: coach in l A. Okay, the only going for me 67 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: was this was like two thousand and four, so there 68 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: weren't like ninety million I was gonna say. So it 69 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: was before everyone was a life coach. There were a 70 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: couple out there at the time. The only so I now, 71 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: rather than got to be consistently broke, I was neurotically 72 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: broke because given moment, I could sell a fix thousand 73 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: dollar package and pay my bills for the month um. 74 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: And you know, but truly, when the student is ready, 75 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: the teacher appears. And environment, I think is super important. 76 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: So like getting myself out of a place where I 77 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: didn't feel like people understood me or had the same 78 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: kind of dreams or drive. At least in l A. 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: It was like illegal to not want to live a 80 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: big life like that was like one there for and 81 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: you know it was it was two thousand, I don't know, 82 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: five six maybe at this point then internet marketing was 83 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: starting to come out and and life coaching was becoming 84 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: a thing, and um, you know, I went to one 85 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: seminar and got a coach and started to string things together. 86 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: And um, ironically, so my the body of my work 87 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: is really based on the ancient story of Queen Esther 88 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: of Purchase. It's all about being the queen of your life. 89 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: It's as heroine's journey. We'll save that for later potentially, 90 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: but um, I was trying to sell my Queen Esther work, 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: like my courses and my CDs at the time, online 92 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: and everyone kept asking me, how are you doing that? 93 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: And I was just just by the CD, like don't 94 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: you want to be the queen of your life? But 95 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: no one cared about that. They just cared. They just 96 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: thought it was fascinating that like I had like an 97 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: opt in box and a newsletter and so that's when 98 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: I started realizing that, um, I knew how to do that. 99 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: I just never saw myself obviously as a business coach. 100 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I had a master's degree in psychology 101 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: and had a spiritual upbringing, so I was like into 102 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 1: my other thing. Um, but I also realized that queens 103 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: aren't broke, So I was like, you know what, you know, 104 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: you studied this other stuff for a while, why don't 105 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: you start studying how to transform your own money story? 106 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: So I started teaching people how to create their online 107 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: empires and um and turned it into a multimillion dollar 108 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: business in three years. Okay, well, I want to back 109 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: up a little bit, because you talk about your first 110 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: financial miracle, and I found this story to be I 111 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: just love this because it was it's all about the intention. 112 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people know about you know, 113 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing air quotes right now, but manifestation. But I 114 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: love your mentality about it because there's a huge part 115 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: of letting go of the lack mentality and just not 116 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: even giving that any energy. To tell us about your 117 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: first financial miracle. Yes, well, right before I became a 118 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: multi millionaire, I had a hundred dollars in my bank account. 119 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: I was seventy tho dollars in debt. I had just 120 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: moved to l A, I had no friends yet, I 121 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: had a boyfriend, and my parents weren't really speaking to me. 122 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: And that's a whole other story. The point is I 123 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: felt very alone, and for the first time in my life, 124 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: I was actually angry at God. I've always had a 125 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: very strong action and relationship. And I was like, I 126 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: were I did everything right. God, I like I went 127 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: to school. I did party so boring, I know, but 128 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: like I went to college, got the degree, became a 129 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: certain like I'm willing to work hard. Why aren't you 130 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: just sending me clients? What's the story? And I had 131 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: gotten down to a hundred dollars in my bank account 132 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: and all credit cards were max and I was really 133 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: scared and depressed. Um and and I just prayed and 134 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: I was like, you need to show up now, like 135 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: stat like I'm also a Sicilian, so we can do 136 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: that with God. Phone goal and a friend of a 137 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: friend invited me to a free seminar. I didn't know 138 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: who he was. I didn't know what the seminar was. 139 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: And I put twenty dollars of gas in my car, 140 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: drove down from Elliott, Orange County, walk in. So the 141 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: spiritual environment I grew up and I should probably mention 142 00:07:54,480 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: was fundamentalist Christianity. So I walk into this seminar. I'm 143 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: in California and like people are like high fiving them 144 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: like each other and like high on life, and I'm 145 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: like I had been depressed for so long. I forgot 146 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: what it was like to feel happy. And I go 147 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: in and I there was like they were handing out 148 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: like three ring binders and the secret had just come out, 149 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: and I, like Satherne contemplated, and I'm like, I keep 150 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: hearing about this thing. I keep hearing. But you know, 151 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: normally don't spend that long figuring out if I'm gonna 152 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: buy a twenty dollar DVD, but um, when it's twenty 153 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: percent of your net worth. So I was like, with all, 154 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm a risk taker. So I buy a secret, get 155 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: my three ring binder. I go and I sit in 156 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: the back of the room because I'm not gonna be 157 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: talking to these California cult people. And I looked down 158 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: and it says the Science of Getting Rich, and I'm like, 159 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, now I'm selling my soul to the devil. 160 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: You know, money is the root of all evil kind 161 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: of thing. I was like, I gotta get out of here. 162 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: So the dude walks out the main first speaker, white hair, 163 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: three piece suit. I'm like, okay, he looks like all 164 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: the pastors from my churches in Detroit. This might work. 165 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: And then the first thing out of his mouth is 166 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: unless you are abundantly wealthy, you will never live an 167 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: authentic life. And I'm like, what, Oh my god, I 168 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: was dying. If anyone knows who Bob Procter is, he 169 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: was like a hundred eighty nine year old. Then he 170 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: was He's still alive. He's amazing anyway, Like um oh my, 171 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: my brain freaked out, my soul screamed yes. And there 172 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: was something in me. I was like, obviously, like money 173 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: is the thing that's keeping me back from everything, my 174 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: dreams being a contribution. How could I hire and he 175 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: supported my business? How could I get on a plane? 176 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: How can I do anything without money? And so tell 177 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: me more and so the whole seminar, He's like, there's 178 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: no lack of money in the world, there's no lack 179 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: of clients in the world. There's more than enough for everything. 180 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: I was like, yes, ding ding, Like I'd never heard 181 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: any of this before, and I was like, this is amazing. 182 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: And then like I could feel like my vibration starting 183 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: to raise, and I was like, oh my god, these 184 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: people aren't crazy, Like this is awesome, this feels great. 185 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: And then there was this moment when he asks you 186 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: to make a decision, and I just remember I literally 187 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: made the decision I was never going to struggle financially again. 188 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: Now he I got sixty dollars in my bank account 189 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: and I was just like, in a decision means to 190 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: cut and I was like, I am not playing this game. 191 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: I am not participating. I'm not doing it. I don't 192 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: know how, I don't care. And then my other mantra 193 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: was I'd love to, but I don't have the money, 194 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not. I was the queen 195 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: of like, Gina want to go on this trip. I'd 196 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: love to, but I don't. Gina, you want to go 197 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: to dinner? And like everything was I'd love to, but 198 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't have the money. I was like, I'm never 199 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: gonna say that again. It's a multi speaker event. Bob 200 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: walks off the stage. This other woman walks on the stage, 201 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: and she was amazing. I was like, oh my gosh, 202 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: girl powering this like she's a multimillionaire. Yes, And I 203 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: don't even care what she was selling. I was going 204 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: to buy it. And then she goes and she does 205 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: her pitch and it's a seventeen thousand dollar coaching program 206 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: and I just on this myself. I would never again 207 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: to say, I'd love to, but I don't have the money. 208 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, no problem, Like I'm like I'm 209 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: doing this. I'm sure she does a payment plan what 210 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: Like I had a corporate salary and investment coming and 211 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: like like what payment? So I go up to her 212 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: on the break and I was like, Hi, I'm Gina, 213 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to be your new star student. I'm so 214 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: excited about your program. Um, do you do payment plans? 215 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: And She's like no, And then I was like you rich, 216 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: Like with rich people, this is the problem. Like, first 217 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: of all, I never even knew anyone who had seventeen 218 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: thousand dollars at one time, And if I had seventeen 219 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, I wouldn't even need a coach, Like I 220 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: would like have solved the answer to everything. And I 221 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: was so angry, and I filled out all sixteen numbers 222 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: of my debit card with expiration Dayton security code, and 223 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: I walked up to her assistant. I said, you give 224 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: me two weeks before you run this card. And then 225 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: some other lady was selling a ten thousand dollar program 226 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, great, I'll take that one too. 227 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: I love out of my three ring bind her under 228 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: one arm and my secret DVD under the other arm, 229 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: and I drive up to l A and I'm like, well, hold, 230 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm practicing my other I see myself with thirty dollars 231 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: in two weeks. Also, I feel myself with thirty thousand 232 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: dollars in my bank account in five days. And for 233 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: my husband's like, Gina, what do I was like, No, 234 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: we will speak nothing other than the complete maifestation of 235 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: the dream. I see myself being coached by these coaches. 236 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: I see myself having a life, being around other people 237 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: who have two big things in the world. I see 238 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: myself in three days in two days. Well, remember at 239 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: the beginning when I said, I was like, I got 240 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: to be neurotically broke because I could, Well, that sounds sexy, 241 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: but when you sell one every like four to six months, 242 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: not so sexy. But I'm working with like the end 243 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: of a package of the six thousand dollar on marriage coaching. 244 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: Obviously didn't have anything about business at the time, and 245 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: we're just gonna call him Bill, And so Bill was like, Gina, 246 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: this is great. My marriage is in such great condition. Um, 247 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, but before we wrap up, I just want 248 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: to have a question to ask you and I'm like, 249 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: what's that, Bill, And he's like, I think I want 250 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: you to coach my sales team. And I'm like, oh shoot. 251 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: I knew that this guy was like a rich business owner, 252 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: and I worked so hard for six months to make 253 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: sure nothing about business came up because I needed him 254 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: to know I was not an idiot. And I was 255 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: just like, what do you coach? And he's like, basement waterproofing. Yeah, Universe, 256 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: I did not look that different than I do to 257 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: like a basement waterproofing sales director? Are you kidding me? 258 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: Right now? It's like, uh, how many people are on 259 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: your team? Bill? And he goes ten. I'm like, mout, 260 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: I got nothing. I didn't know anything about sales. I 261 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: didn't know she who speaks first loses. I had asked 262 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: all my important business questions that I could think. I 263 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: got nothing. And so he says to me, so what 264 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: do I do by ten of those six thousand dollar 265 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 1: packages of yours? Oh my god, abby, Bill, that's exactly 266 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: what you can. Bill, That's what everybody does every day 267 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: of the week, and toys on Sunday. Um. Yeah. And 268 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: so in two weeks, I was used to making twenty 269 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: four thousand dollars a year, and Bob Proctor said, you 270 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: can turn your yearly income into your monthly income. And 271 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: I was just going for the thirty grand that I needed. 272 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: I was rounding up in the universe delivered sixty dollars 273 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: in two weeks. Oh my god, and a lot of 274 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: YouTube tutorials on the basement waterproof. Well I bet so. 275 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you figured that out how to make that happen. 276 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: But I mean, I think listening to the story you're 277 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: everyone would be thinking, I want this, Like how do 278 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: I do that? And is it as simple as just 279 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: believing that I can have it? Believing is one of 280 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: the ingredients. So the more we study quantum physics and 281 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: we and and spirituality, so they all really do go 282 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: hand in hand together. And so what I did, naively 283 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: was psych myself so up that I literally increased my 284 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: vibration and I saw and felt. So it's the vision 285 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: and the feeling so so strongly that I impressed into 286 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: the universe and it became a must, not a want. 287 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: So I literally changed so vibration. Like we know magnets, 288 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, magnetized to each other, and everything in our 289 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: external environment is a magnetization of our internal beliefs in 290 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: a short amount of time I was able to which 291 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: actually is easier. This is why I like success, love speed. 292 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: It's harder to hold a high vibration for a longer 293 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: period of time than a shorter one. Like I had 294 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: two weeks to call this in two weeks, Like if 295 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: I had had two months or two years, it wouldn't 296 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: have happened. Yeah, I couldn't be in that like like 297 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: thinking A rich talks about that white heat state, like 298 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: I see myself, I feel myself like it's happened over 299 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: and over and over again every day to program and 300 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: lock that in and so yes, I had to believe it. Yes, 301 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: I had to feel it. Yes, I had to see it. 302 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: And it had to be such a non negotiable. It 303 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: had to be a must, not a one. Um because 304 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: I've tried it on other things that was like, that'd 305 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: be nice. It doesn't work. Yeah, I like that. It 306 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: had to be a must, not a one. That kind 307 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: of transitions into the conversation I want to have with 308 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: you about being a queen. You have a book called 309 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: The Audacity to Be a Queen, which I mentioned earlier, 310 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: and some of what you say about being a queen 311 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: is that you become unavailable for like the knots and 312 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: the scarcity mentality. So can you first of all tell 313 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: us what does it mean to be a queen? Yes, 314 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: being a queen is being the best version of you. 315 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: It's simply stated. It's just just because j Lo is 316 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: my spirit animal doesn't have to be you know, I 317 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: do Berkins, you can do birken Stocks. Like everybody gets like, 318 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: there's no you got to own your own style of 319 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: queenhood and it's just the best version of you. The 320 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: piece about becoming unavailable for anything other than that's not you, 321 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: you know. And so it's like some people are like, well, 322 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: I don't need five star hotels. I love camping great, 323 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: go to Pentagon, like rock it out. It's mostly watching 324 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: those stars like I'm not gonna make you wrong for that, 325 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: and and La Maurice and Paris is not better than 326 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: that for you. But we all get to like unapologetically 327 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: declare about just what lights us up in life, from 328 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: a career to contribution to lifestyle to quality, like just 329 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: what you consider quality of life. And the more we 330 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: allow and declare that emphatically, the higher your passion, the 331 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: higher your vibration is going to be in the more 332 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: you gonna magnetized to you. Okay, So that's the similar 333 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: thing of when you were saying I'm just not going 334 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: to believe that I can't have this, like with that money, 335 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: you were like, I am only talking. Like when your 336 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: husband tried to say to you, what are we gonna do, 337 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: You're like, Nope, We're not doing that because that's not 338 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: at the high vibration. Exactly. You can't. Your your environment 339 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: is everything, and so whether it's your your spouse, your 340 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: best friend, your mother, your client, you cannot let anything 341 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: in that is contrary to what you are looking to 342 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: manifest in your life. Um, because you know, the Bible 343 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: talks about we can't serve two masters, and you can't 344 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: hold two thoughts. You can't be like, oh yeah that 345 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: might not happen. Oh it's totally happening. Like you can't 346 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: yo yo diet with your dreams. You know. It's so 347 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: interesting because we were talking before the podcast and I 348 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: said to you, your book is super helpful to me 349 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: because I think I'm starting to identify how I thought 350 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: my entire life, and it is very much of like 351 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: I really want this thing, but maybe I should like 352 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: prepare myself that that's not an option, and I really 353 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: do operate from that place, and so it does not 354 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: become an option. Like you know what I'm saying, Like 355 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: the things that I tell myself or the stories that 356 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: I have about why I wouldn't deserve that or that 357 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: that's too much to seek, actually become the thing I 358 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: manifest verse the goal and the desire and all of 359 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: those things. Is that really common with women? Yes? Yeah, 360 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: we have been so programmed to play it safe, don't 361 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: reach for the star as being reasonable. You can have 362 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: this much but not that much. And it's literally like 363 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: a programming. It's like if you are in Nashville and 364 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: you're programmed to go to South Dakota, your GPS are 365 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: gonna go to South Dakota. But if you're in Nashville 366 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: and you want to go to New York, but your 367 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: program to go to South Dakota, like it's you're not 368 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: gonna get to New York. It's just a programming until 369 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: you reprogram until you declare this is happening no matter what. 370 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: This is a must, not a want, because wanting wishing 371 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: doesn't work. We'd all be skinny billionaires if any of 372 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: that even came close to working, Like you have two 373 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: so be behind it for you, because manifestations go where 374 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: there's a purpose. Like you can't attract your soulmate because 375 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: like you think it sounds nice to get married, if 376 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: that's your choice, it's got to be a like a 377 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: true passion for you. Yeah. Well, I love the the 378 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: idea between the difference between a queen and a princess, 379 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: and so I want to kind of talk about that. Um, 380 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: something you just said triggered me to think about that 381 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: part of the book. I don't know, tell the difference 382 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: between the queen and the princess and it might come 383 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, so in my book. Um, well, first 384 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: we're here, let me just talk about shadow work in 385 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: case anyone's not familiar. Shadow work is when we just 386 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: own different parts of ourselves. So if we we have 387 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: light shadows and we have dark shadows. So when we're 388 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: little girls, were or whoever your listeners are, like, when 389 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: we're little kids, we we come into this world having 390 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: it all right. You walk into a kindergarten classroom and 391 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: you're like, who can sing? And everyone raise your hand? 392 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: And who can drawn? Everyone is? Who can dance? And 393 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: everyone raises their hand. You know, by the time we're 394 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: in third grade, we're like who can sing? And we're 395 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: like like hunched over. And so what the shadow is 396 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: or the disc owned parts of ourselves? So let's say, uh, 397 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 1: speaking of j Lo, we'll just go with like, you know, 398 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, Gina, can you sing? And I would I 399 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: would say, no, that's been a disowned part of myself 400 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: that we're away in which I have not let myself 401 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: shine like it was in whatever way too big or 402 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: too much, or I was told I couldn't sing, and 403 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: so I made that not part of me. And then 404 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: society also then those are the light shadows. The dark 405 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: shadows are the things that society has deemed unacceptable. So 406 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: they're also hard for us to admit or own. Um 407 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: being a bit, being a liar, being um, self centered, 408 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: being angry, whatever it is have been unacceptable. So we 409 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: typically don't own those parts of ourselves as well. To 410 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: the degree that we have disowned all these parts of 411 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: us that really are that we diminish our own power. Um. 412 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: The truth is I can sing, The truth is I 413 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: am a bit. The truth The truth is like like 414 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm all of it and or not every day, all 415 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: day that I have these parts of me and the 416 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: quicker you can own it. I was I was walking 417 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: in my office earlier today. My cord was attached to 418 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: my phone. It got stuck on the handle, and my 419 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: like coffee splashed everywhere, like like what's wrong. And I 420 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: was like, like like coffee Whenever He's like what's wrong, I 421 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: was like, I am clearly upset about something else, and 422 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: I'm like taking it out on like the coffee splutter. Right. 423 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: You know, in the past, I wouldn't have even been 424 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: able to own that, you know, like just like owning 425 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: like I'm actually upset about something else. Like we don't 426 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: like that, okay. So in my book, because nobody's gonna 427 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: raise their hand and be like, I'm a princess and 428 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: not queen. Right, Nobody wants to be the paranoid gangster. 429 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be the the ghost, the loner, the 430 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: self saboteur, all of that. So I've created these different 431 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: kind of characters which are called archetypes, and one of 432 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: the archetypes as the Princess. So just for everyone else, um, 433 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: the princess has a very there's different types of a 434 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: very unrealistic view around life versus a queen has wisdom 435 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: a quit. A princess is very confused when everything doesn't 436 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: go perfectly. You know, I made my post and there 437 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: weren't like a thousand likes on it, Like what's wrong? Um, 438 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know what the you know 439 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: worked out for ten minutes and I don't have chiseled 440 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: out like like the princess is very like entitled, very Um. 441 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: It happens oftentimes when children have been over adult or 442 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: told that they're they're perfect and they're amazing from well 443 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: meaning parents. That then when they get out in the world, 444 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: they're very confused when everything they do doesn't turn to 445 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: gold and everyone doesn't love everything that they do. Um. 446 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: A version of princess that I was more than the 447 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: the entitled side was the avoidant princess. And so like 448 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: when I talked about before, like I thought like clients 449 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: would just come that's a very princess mentality. Um. When 450 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: I was in debt, I was the avoidant princess, Like 451 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: I would just like not look at what the percentage 452 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: rates were or how much was on the credit card 453 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: or that kind of thing. So being like versus a 454 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: queen would take full radical responsibility, even if she were 455 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: in debt at the time and say like, I'm gonna 456 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: go look into this. I'm going to know exactly what 457 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: my numbers are, going to create a plan, and I 458 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: am going to transform this from a very empowered way. So, um, 459 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: the princess can be a very stuck place in our 460 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: lives when it comes to day eating, when it comes 461 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: to money, when it comes to self image, the way 462 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: things are supposed to work in the world. So I 463 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: don't know if that job your memory, but that's kind 464 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: of well, the thing I was going to ask you 465 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: earlier what it did pop back up, But it was 466 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: sort of that mentality of if I work hard, then 467 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: I will get this, and um and you and that 468 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: kind of cantined to the Princess the same thing. It's 469 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: like the entitlement piece of like all this hard work 470 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: I'm doing well, I should be successful. And you've talked 471 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: about openly like you've worked harder at different times of 472 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: your life than when you are having this super successful 473 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: business now. And so it's not necessarily about I mean, 474 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: not that you can't do the work, but like the 475 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: killing ourselves to work so hard expecting certain results because 476 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: of the actual work if it's not in line with 477 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: us and we're not actually maybe manifesting this success, and 478 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: the way that I've heard you talk about, um, we 479 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: miss it. And so I kind of wanted to know 480 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: more about what you talk about with the not working 481 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: so hard. And then I'll circle back to the Princess 482 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: because I have a couple of comments on that. Awesome. 483 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: So there's a line of the course of miracles that 484 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: talks about effortless accomplishment, and I certainly was so. I 485 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: from the beginning of my career really wanted to discover 486 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: how to create wealth based on feminine principles. I've never 487 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: been a workaholic. Um. I was never attracted to an 488 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: overly masculine work style, though I did notice that my 489 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: friends that work eighteen hours a day happened to be 490 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: wealthier like my investment banker, stock broker friends what commercial 491 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: real estate were wealthier than my broke as feminine energy 492 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: friends that like we're like still in the yoga circle, 493 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: in the new moon circle, you know, fourteen days later. Um, 494 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: I don't want to be either. I didn't want to 495 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: be like broken happy, and I didn't want to be 496 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: like financially successful but unhappy, and it was a very 497 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: like dandhie be the change moment. Back This was again 498 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: back in two thousand four, I was like, where are 499 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: the women who are wealthy and feminine? And so I 500 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: found my path in a bit of a vein of 501 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: gold from a very passionate place. So like I've pretty 502 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: I've never worked past six o'clock. I've rarely worked a weekend. 503 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: But in that time I did look up to and 504 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: still do, but for different reasons now too, people like 505 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: a Gary Vaynerchuk of Grant Cardon Tony Robbins like massive 506 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: action and hustle and you gotta work. And then just 507 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: the culture like no pain, no gain, take the bull 508 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: by the horns, just do it. And so there was 509 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: when things weren't working as much as I wanted them 510 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: to at different stages of my business, I would apply 511 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: that mentality. And I you know, I didn't need that 512 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: mentality from when I start of this, like two thousand 513 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: and six to six teen ish or whatever. But around 514 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen or after ten years in for me, 515 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: I started to notice I was working harder than ever 516 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: for less than ever. Then the numbers were going down 517 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: and then I was getting more fear based, and everyone 518 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: was like funnels funnels, Facebook like and everything was getting 519 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: like tighter, and I was getting angry, like I didn't 520 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: want to study conversion rates and split testing and like 521 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: all this like stuff that I had to do to 522 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: scale the whole thing. So over the past two years, 523 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: in a year in particular, I have had my own 524 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: spiritual awakening where that was a great path for me, 525 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: the whole business coaching route, the way that I desire 526 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: to experience manifestations of any kind, particularly financial success. I 527 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: am a capricorns. I'm all about like material and all 528 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: of that stuff. I couldn't find one scripture, which you 529 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: don't have to be a Christian for this, but just 530 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: like there isn't any spiritual scripture that says work your 531 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 1: ass off and you will be blessed. Like it's like 532 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: it's all like ask and it is given um, seek 533 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: and you will find you know, like seek first the 534 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: kingdom of having all these things will be added unto you. 535 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: My yoga is easy and my burden is like like 536 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: and I just haven't know the Bible better, but other 537 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: the Koran Buddhism, like there's nothing that says if you 538 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: work harder and put in more time and stress out, 539 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna make more money. And so I've had to 540 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: really really own my queenhood and my spiritual connection more 541 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: than a religious one. And and if that has led 542 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: me into more the spirit of spirituality than the letter 543 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: of the law and quantum physics, So there's um kind 544 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: of what we're talking about before, Like I doubled my 545 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: yearly income in two weeks by drawing the desire to 546 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: me not laving away, you know, for months on end 547 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: over a launch. And and this is what is possible 548 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: and available for all of us as a queen versus 549 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: the princess, you know, a prince is like, well, we 550 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: have to do what society tells us to do and 551 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: what other people say that worked for them, And it 552 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: never felt in alignment in my soul. Like I didn't 553 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: want to outwork the next queen. I wasn't proud of 554 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: opening up my computer on a Sunday. That's just not 555 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: for me what I consider quality of life. And so 556 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: I have had to, even in the past year, more 557 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: deeply lean into what am I really going to trust, 558 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, my own force, my own ability, my own 559 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: man made power, or drawing opportunity to me and drawing 560 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: the miraculous to me. And then where's the fine line 561 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: of just like doing a spiritual bypass or actually relate 562 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: exerting some effort. Yeah, I love that too, And I 563 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: love how you incorporate spirituality into the conversation because I 564 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: think a lot of people get deterred with manifestation because 565 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: it's like you're not that powerful, like you know, like 566 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: you kind of can get into this place of really 567 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: being like, well, I can do all this stuff and 568 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: and and then the same thing with like working so hard. 569 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: It's like I'm gonna work work, work, work, work, and 570 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: I really identify with what you're saying. You know, I've 571 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: done that, Like I've worked really hard to build a business. Well, 572 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: the business I built was completely out of alignment with 573 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: who I am, and so it crashes, you know. And 574 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: so then it's like wait a second, the pause and 575 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: the thinking through like what is it that I want? 576 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: And what you just said about like I don't want 577 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: to open my computer on a Sunday, Like we're so 578 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: built to have shame around maybe not identifying with this workaholic. 579 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna kill myself to get where I got like, 580 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: the only way to get there is to work hard. 581 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 1: Um that we missed the opportunities to bring in the 582 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: gifts of higher power or what we came here to do. 583 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: There are certain people that probably really are made to 584 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: work really hard and do all those things, and that's 585 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: how they build their business. It's not it doesn't serve 586 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: me either. I I don't actually see it being sustainable, 587 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: and I don't think I don't think that certain people 588 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: are made that way. What I do think is what 589 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: we've gotten blinded to people that have a genuine passion. 590 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: And when you have a genuine passion for something, it's 591 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: hard not to do it twelve hours a day, you know. 592 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: And so a lot of those people might be in 593 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: industries where they're even calling at work because society is 594 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: so idolizes that or we perceive it as work, but 595 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: it's it's really their passion. I mean. Back to Gary Vainerchuck, 596 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: I don't I mean he spoke at one of my 597 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: events back in the day. I don't know him personally today, 598 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: he seems like he's filled with passion. Like I don't 599 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: think he experiences working hard as as his day to 600 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: day you know, he likes doing a meeting at nine pm. 601 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: That's sacred dinner hour for me. You know. Like, so 602 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not here to to knock anyone from 603 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: what's really true for them. I just think that these 604 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: false badges of honor, particularly for women. Um, it's causing 605 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: adrenal fatigue, it's causing cancer, it's causing divorces, it's causing burnout, 606 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: it's causing knocks in self esteem. Like, wait a minute, 607 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: I I did the little miss perfect thing. I worked 608 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: the eighteen hours a day to build my business, and 609 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: it's like everything falling apart. That's when you know it's 610 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: not from passionate drive. And it's it's interesting, you know. 611 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: So growing up with this fundamentals Christianity, than I did 612 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: a pendulum swing into spirituality and and now I'm starting 613 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: to see the spiritual intention for some scriptures. Um, so 614 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go to John in three sixteen on 615 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: anybody hears everybody relaxed, but like not, it's not by 616 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: might nor by power, but by my spirit. You start 617 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: to get some of these different You're like, oh, yeah, 618 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: you will be renewed by the transforming of your mind. Right, 619 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: Like it's like all kinds of like, wait a minute, 620 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: it's not You're not gonna be renewed by working and hustle. 621 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: Like all of this is about change your mindset, change 622 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: your beliefs. It's by let the spirit come in with 623 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: My ways are higher than your ways. Um. You know. 624 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: And to me that's w prayer, that's for meditation. And 625 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to action. I just require inspired action 626 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: at this point in my life, not massive action. It's 627 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: like it comes through then great, Yes, for fifteen hours 628 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: a day as well, but it won't feel like work. 629 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: It will be an expression of passion totally. God, I 630 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: love that so much. The other thing I thought about 631 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: when you were talking about the queen versus the princess, 632 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: as you say that, it's that mentality of life is 633 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: happening for me, not to me talk through a little 634 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: bit like when your book came out, I know, the 635 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: pandemic hit. Can you tell that story? Yes? Um so everyone, 636 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: if you're gonna wait twenty years to write your first book, 637 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that March would be consciously 638 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: choose that. I unconsciously chose that one. And um, there's 639 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: one of the exercises in my book says, I'm thrilled 640 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: this is happening because us, because queens know that everything 641 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: is happening for them, not to them, and princesses break 642 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: out and I was like, oh my gosh, Like I 643 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: literally had like a book signing one event and went 644 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: home and had to cancel international book tour and the 645 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: whole thing. And um, the good part about walking your 646 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: talk is you can't write a book called The Audacity 647 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: be Queen, how that be a signature exercise in it 648 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: and not apply it. I didn't think I was gonna 649 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: have to apply it so soon, and so I'm like, Okay, 650 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled my book tour just got cant or the 651 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: pandemic is like canceling all this because and then you 652 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 1: just you start to find the deeper meanings, you know. Um, 653 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: I wrote the book not just to make book sales. 654 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: I wanted people to read it when more people reading 655 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: more than when they were at home during a pandemic, 656 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: and those I'm thrilled my book tor got canceled because 657 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't have I didn't have a 658 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: podcast at the time, and any podcast planned. I was 659 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: such an in person seminar girl that as with all 660 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: due respect to all the people that would have shown 661 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: up for that, it's nowhere near the audience of a 662 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: podcast tour. And so I quickly pivoted and started getting podcasts, 663 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: and you know, had way more of an audience that way. 664 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: And then I was going to be so willing to 665 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: fund my vanity project of getting on all the morning 666 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: shows and taking those flights and all of that. Then 667 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: and instead of like waking up in De Moine at 668 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: like three in the morning to go to the morning 669 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: show or whatever, I got to call my publicist and 670 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: be like, get me Atlanta, get me Houston, get me, 671 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, DC, like whatever. And I was just doing 672 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: zoom interviews from the comfort of my own home. So 673 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: you know, there's just I don't always catch it instantly 674 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: that I do have a fundamental belief that nothing bad 675 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: is happening to us, because I do believe God can 676 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: turn all things for good. Um, And and that's what 677 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: I looked to focus on, and that's where I used 678 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: to infuse my power. Yeah, the exercise you're referencing is 679 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: in the book, and it says is that I am 680 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: thrilled because no matter what the circumstances, because you write 681 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: out and you did that about your book tour. Yes, yes, 682 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: And it's easy to the reason why I use the 683 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: word thrilled in terms of career because it really like 684 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: turns the Titanic around in your mind. I want to 685 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: have compassion for people that are going through different circumstances 686 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 1: where the word the word thrilled may not be as 687 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: fitting or appropriate. Um, but you'll find that the spirit 688 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: is there. It's more about, you know, I accept that 689 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: this is happening because or um, I will let my 690 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: light shine because this is happening. You know, Like there's 691 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 1: other words that some people may need to use depending 692 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: on their circumstances. Um, but the sentiment does not change, 693 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't. You know. It's not all things work together 694 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: for good for those who love God except when right, 695 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: like there are not exceptions to those rules. So it um. Well, 696 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: we have a theme every month on the podcast, and 697 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: a theme for July is just about finding your independence 698 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: and accepting your authenticity. And so obviously can't think of 699 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: a better theme for finding the audacity to be a 700 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 1: queen than that. How important do you think independence and 701 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: living in your authenticity are in terms of living as 702 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: a queen? Oh? More? Than ever, more than ever. You know, um, 703 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: I won't share the story here. It is in the 704 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 1: book and other people might not. Jews note from perman 705 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 1: Christians do not from the Bible the um right when 706 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: the most unlikely candidate becomes queen, This Jewish orphan girl 707 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: becomes a queen of Persia. There's a lot issue to 708 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: kill all the Jews in the land, and she has 709 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: to go and risk her life and tell the king 710 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: that she's actually a Jewish orphan girl. And when he pleased, 711 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: save her people, and she doesn't want to do at 712 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: the beginning, her cousin goes on and he's like, you 713 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: gotta do this, and she's like, no, no, no, not me. 714 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: This is against like palace protocol. And the most famous 715 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: scripture and the entire story says esther, for such a 716 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: time as this, you have been called into royalty to 717 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: save your people. And so I say this to women everywhere, 718 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: for such a time as this, for such a time 719 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: as this, you are the queen of your life. And 720 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: who are your people? And what are you meant for? 721 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: And that is a very individual question to only be 722 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: answered by oneself. And so a level of independence in 723 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: getting out of people pleasing or what is politically correct 724 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,479 Speaker 1: in your social circle. This is a time for you 725 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: to look your destiny in its soul and claim it 726 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: and own it and and be the contribution that you 727 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: are meant to take. And as as much as we 728 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: can be. Queens are stars among stars and queens among queens. Um, 729 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,720 Speaker 1: you're not a queen if you're not owning your calling. 730 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: Like that's kind of how like the women that are 731 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: like this is who I am. No matter what. You 732 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: don't have to agree with everyone. You don't have to 733 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: get it, you don't have to vibe with it. But 734 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: every queen has has answered that for such a time 735 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: as this and accepted the call on her life. And 736 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: so that is a very independent choice to make. I 737 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: love that. Well. The book is called The Audacity to 738 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: Be a Queen. I'm going to link it in the 739 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: description of this podcast. You also have your own podcast 740 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: called Divine Living. UM. Talk a little bit about what 741 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: you talk about on Divine Living. Thank you, Thank you. UM. 742 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: It's it's very much what you avariens today, kind of 743 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: like what the what's in my heart at the moment? 744 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: I do cool interviews and clearly we're gonna have you 745 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: on as well, um, you know, with other queens, and 746 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: it's you know, some of them are eleven minutes and 747 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: some of them are are sixty minutes. I really um, 748 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: And I don't have like a format. I just when 749 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: I have something in my heart, I jump on the 750 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: microphone and I share. So it's spiritual, it's entrepreneurial, it's lifestyle, 751 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's all things queenhood. So all things queenhood 752 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: doesn't get much better than that. And where else can 753 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: people find you? Yeah, come check me out on Instagram 754 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: at Gina d v And if you want like the 755 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: whole world of Divine Living, I'm at Divine Living dot com. 756 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: Um and if you want the free companion course to 757 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: the book, it's Divine Living dot com forward slash audacity. Amazing, Gina, 758 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. I love all 759 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 1: the stories about being a queen. Unfortunately, I can look 760 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: back at my life and be like I was being 761 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: a princess there. So it's been very eye opening to me. 762 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: And I'm actually really excited to keep, you know, living 763 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: in this queenhood and embracing my own authenticity. I really 764 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: think that there is no better time for that than now. 765 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: For women is true. The age of Queen is now 766 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: is now. Thank you again for being here, for having me. 767 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: What fun this one. Thank you guys for listening.