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Speaker 1: Now it's time for Cannabis Talk one on one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Marking, Craig Washerman, the Pot Brothers in

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Speaker 1: Law with special guest Sean Kiernan from the Wheak for

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Speaker 1: Warriors Project. Hello, and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one.

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Speaker 1: My name is Blue. Alongside him is the world famous

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Speaker 1: Pop Brothers a Law, Mr Mark and Craig Washerman. Not

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and the world famous Mr Christopher Wright, also

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Speaker 1: known on the streets at Hello, and you know Blue,

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Speaker 1: you know what's going down. I want to thank you

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Speaker 1: all for listening to the podcast on Cannabis Talk one

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Speaker 1: more about the Pot Brothers out of law. These guys

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Speaker 1: are amazing. You can find them at wass Law. Craig

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Speaker 1: that's Mr Craig Law Dogs one, No, it's wass Law

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Speaker 1: and at wash Law Dog Blue is Mr One Christopher

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Speaker 1: Right and Mr Joe Grande is Joe Grande fifty two. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and the show is at Cannabis Talk one oh one,

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Speaker 1: and the Pot Brothers at Law are at Pot Underscore

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Speaker 1: Brothers Underscore at Underscore Law, So make sure you check

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Speaker 1: us all underscore. Why did you guys do that? We've

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Speaker 1: gone through that, we've gone through, but I haven't heard

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Speaker 1: it a long time. An old man mistake. It was you.

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Speaker 1: there you have it. That's how it happened. Those old

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Speaker 1: man moments happen now more often for myself as well. Craig,

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Speaker 1: fun of you? At forty eight, I'm finding myself doing

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Speaker 1: these kids were the old ones getting information. So Craig,

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Speaker 1: don't worry you're not the only old and in the banker.

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Speaker 1: Well you guys. On today's show, we have a very

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Speaker 1: Talk one oh one, and he's no stranger. If you're

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Speaker 1: Hey is on the show from Wheat for Warriors, projecting

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Speaker 1: good Sean, how are you, brother? I'm good. It's a

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Speaker 1: in Vegas. It's all relative, I guess. Well, Sean. First off,

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Speaker 1: a problem with this. Right, It's those are discussions that

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00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: happen every day throughout America, right And if we're gonna

430
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: be honest, happen every day, not very successfully. Um And

431
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: and the reality is. It's not a it's a process

432
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: to get there, and not everyone makes that process because

433
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: they don't survive. They they don't make it, or or

434
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,479
Speaker 1: or they you know, I think you can commit yourself

435
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: that it's okay and that you're fine, you know what

436
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean, versus you know, committing yourself that this isn't

437
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: okay and that you're not fine very night okay. Or

438
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing drugs or or whatever the thing you're taking

439
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: the pharmaceuticals that the doctors prescribed, yeah, or the doctors

440
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: telling me if you have a death wish and you don't.

441
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: In my case, I mean, I was you know, Party

442
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: seven on lots of drugs, sex. I mean, it was

443
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: the Wolf of Wall Street time, you know, severely. I'm

444
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: lucky I survived. You know, if it wasn't for my wife,

445
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here. If it wasn't for I wouldn't

446
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: be here. So it's not that I walked this road alone.

447
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: And and I think it's happenstance. Who survives and who doesn't,

448
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: and and whether or not I should be here or

449
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: not not the story. But to your point, I had

450
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: a death wish. I didn't care if I lived or diet,

451
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: So that's how you operate. So it's it's it's surviving that,

452
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: not even loving yourself and hating yourself and mad at

453
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: yourself before you come in terms and learn that I'm

454
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Speaker 1: okay with who I am and what's happened, and I'm

455
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: okay with that, and I'm gonna move forward. You know,

456
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: how many chapters do you have now? Right? Well, we

457
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: we have. You know, we're as you know, we're attacking

458
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Speaker 1: a different model. We're gonna go away. We've kept the

459
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: chapters we've had and as they closed down, not reopened

460
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: them because we're with COVID right now, I think we

461
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: got twelve or fourteen chapters active throughout the country. A

462
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: lot of inactive meaning they don't hold formal meetings. But

463
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Speaker 1: we're gonna go to these be thirty four events you

464
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: see us going to, which it gets is the access

465
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: point now. Now we have to reinvent the social aspect

466
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: of this. And there are chapters before work because personal shares.

467
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: The problem is the landlords are so scared. We've lost

468
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: almost all our meeting places for our chapters to meet

469
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: because they don't want eighty vets who are smoking like chimneys.

470
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: There so what we're doing is through SB thirty four. Um,

471
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do is do those and then we've

472
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: got to figure out a funding source. And we think

473
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: we've got it figured out to create that outreach that's

474
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: so important for the veterans. That Prop sixty four, whether

475
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: you like it or not, took away Yeah yeah, yeah, sure,

476
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: headed's unintended consequences or intended however you want to look

477
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: at it. I suppose the way they put that together,

478
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: who you are, it's both dancers, it's both depending on

479
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: who was true true. Sean. I want to touch on

480
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: you said you got some pills snuck into in the breasts,

481
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Speaker 1: which I just can't get my mind off how big

482
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Speaker 1: those breasts were. With a hundred pills in there in

483
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: the first time, a lot of people got high. But

484
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: it made me think of when you use that term,

485
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: so many people think getting highest strictly smoking to joints,

486
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, so many people think medicating veterans

487
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: are medicating people is all about smoking cannabis and not realizing,

488
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 1: like I'm sure a lot of the people there at

489
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: the v A did when you gave them that pill

490
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: for the first time that had you know, some th

491
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: sing it and helped them, and it's helped many people

492
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: come off of these other pharmaceutical pills. You know, how

493
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: did that convince people and see and open their eyes

494
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: too if they were even against you know, smoking cannabis.

495
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: But yet you can actually take a pill now and

496
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: take it other ways right now? That that's a great question.

497
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, there's no right way

498
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: to approach it, because my partner Mark would start various.

499
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean with a you know, a hundred milligram t

500
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: C pill is probably not the best way to start

501
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: for Nubie. Let's be honest with you. But but Mark,

502
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: my partner will joke he's the one who dabs you

503
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: really like I'm the one who goes just suck as

504
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: you're hard as you can and take a lot to

505
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: the first guy, you know, because we're just different people. Um,

506
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: he says, I'm a dick. Uh All seriousness, We're dealing

507
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: with some pretty hardcore individuals in the psych ward and Lahorea.

508
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: We're dealing with with people who don't do anything half measured.

509
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: So really what it was was it was in relevance

510
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: to where they were in their point in time, and

511
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: these guys are at the edge. And so really what

512
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: it was to me was it's an EpiPen. This was

513
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: take this the worst thing that's gonna have. Dude, you're

514
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: gonna have an eight hour trip. They all had drug

515
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: experiences that so we're not you know, these aren't people

516
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: who are against soleucinogenic you know, approach for most of it.

517
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: And really it's the experience itself that is the teacher.

518
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: And in the coming to Jesus, it isn't me, it

519
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: isn't anyone else. It's it's that feeling you have on

520
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: cannabis that allows you to now, you know what, I'm

521
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 1: not such an asshole. Craig is not such an asshole, right,

522
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: And we can talk and we can get by those triggers,

523
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: and we can start to network. And when I'm in trouble,

524
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: now my spouse has someone to call, because the spouse

525
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: of Sean he she puts up with his ass and

526
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: my husband or my wife and we have both sides

527
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: that are equally aggressive. Um, you know. So, so it

528
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: really is the story and the journey that it becomes

529
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: self evident. It's not any magical thing I say. It's

530
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: really about you know what I'm finding happiness again on

531
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: this it's it is I'm de escalating situations again and

532
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: we're not. It is you know what, my husband or

533
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: my wife is an abusive like she is, or he

534
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: is on alcohol again. It is you know what, I

535
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: don't have suicidal thoughts like I do in my antidepressive

536
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: medicines like I do think or you know what, I

537
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: can get through the withdraws of my heroine that my

538
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: opiates got me addicted to by using cannabis. So they're

539
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: all different needs. I I think it's something that deals

540
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: with a lot of the pill different pills we tell,

541
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: and I think it could be used as a tool.

542
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: So to me, it's the process of using it. And

543
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: that's why I just got the pills in and gave

544
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: them the people who wanted to um, not because I

545
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: was going to testify as to why they should do it,

546
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: because I'll talk forever. So to me, it's take it.

547
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: We're here for you, brother and sister. I'll be on

548
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: it too, and let's take this journey together. The worst

549
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: thing is you're gonna be one angry, suicidal person when

550
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: you get out the other side. And usually when you're

551
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: in that position, that that isn't a discussion that takes

552
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: very long to take that that bill? You know, serious

553
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: question here, is there such thing in your mind there's

554
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: too much cannabis? You know it could someone abuse it,

555
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, just in your mind. I mean, you know,

556
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: at any at any level, the responsible side of me

557
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, I mean, if you can't function, whether

558
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: it's sex, whether it's alcohol, whether it's cannabis, whether it's

559
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: alo vera, if you can't function, meaning too much of

560
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: your money is going to that versus you know, paying

561
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: the rent of the healthcare. If you can't function because

562
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: you can't the side effects of whatever you're doing, and

563
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: they're there for the pharma schools, meaning I become unmotivated,

564
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: which can be a side effect. Yeah, I think, And

565
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: you have kids and you have to provide for those kids. Yes,

566
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: I think it could be bad. But for someone like myself,

567
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: for someone who's using as a medicine as a substitute

568
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: to opiates, to you know, to the pharmaceutical approach. Um, No,

569
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: I don't think there's much downside because the downside has

570
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: to be measured against the downside of the substance. YEA.

571
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: In the thought process, what is your regiment sean that

572
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: you find yourself at a best level for your cannabis consumption.

573
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: It really depends what I want to do. I mean,

574
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: if I'm coming on, you know, a talk show like this,

575
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: I'll dab right before I come on because it takes

576
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: the ease away and it just losenes me and I

577
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: can talk. They'll do us a tiv or you know,

578
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: I know some people don't like that. At nighttime, I'll

579
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: tend to put you know, do something that puts me

580
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: to sleep. Um. I do like to smoke flour still

581
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: and it's my favorite former consumption blunts. So usually in

582
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: the morning when I get up, that's how I'll enjoy myself.

583
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: So I use everything, including edibles. It really is a

584
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: popcorna And I think changing up not only the strains

585
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: I'd use, but the intake or the method I medicate

586
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: helps avoid the tolerance issue that comes with someone who

587
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: uses cannabis daily like myself. What do you do and

588
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: suggest if you have a friend who's just notoriously known

589
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: as an asshole, you kind of do a talk show

590
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: with him, and you know, four or five days of

591
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: the week when you see him, he's kind of a jerk.

592
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: One day he's cool, but he's not here. Oh I'm

593
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: just I'm not here. I'm asking about a friend of mine,

594
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: hold on and and he's the oldest one of the group,

595
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: so he's very experienced in life. But he acts like

596
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: an asshole all the time. Well not all the time,

597
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: just the majority. It's not an asshole pill, you know,

598
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: talking about you. I don't know what I thought of

599
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: it outside. When I first seen you tonight, I would

600
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: fly out there, you know what, going to Vegas get

601
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: your hair done. I hope did you run in? Did

602
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: you go see show? I wasn't. I wasn't able to.

603
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: I was actually working most of the time. Dude, he

604
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: comes back set here and he went to a dispensary

605
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: and got a bunch of free product. Of course he

606
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: didn't call you, why would he share. He just brought

607
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: it illegally black back on the plane problem I paid

608
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: you waived it? No, No, I didn't. I don't want

609
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: to hand out. I didn't need that. They were very

610
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: nice to me. The new leaf over right right off

611
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: a Twain. That was a good post that you did.

612
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: Really nice inside to those guys. Good guy, good guy.

613
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: But Sean so being out there are you able to

614
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: get deals like that? You know, can you go to

615
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: organizations like a New Leaf or do we need to

616
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: make an introduction for you to to help the organization

617
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: like that so that people from the organization can go

618
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: in there, like say I register and can I go

619
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: to a dispenser and say, hey, I'm I'm a vet?

620
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: Right is it? You know? We didn't start this for

621
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: any other reason that to help ourselves, and it's turned into,

622
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: like you said, a brand and the organization with the

623
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: grassroots movement. I think we're at right now is what

624
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: do we want to do? And so we've been working

625
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: on and Craig and the Pop Brothers let me give

626
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: me a shout out, have to have such a tremendous

627
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: amount of work pro bono for us. I know everyone

628
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: at Cannabis, Top Blue and Joe you guys have donated

629
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: money to the cause and we so appreciate all that effort.

630
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: We don't go out loud with that, we don't ask

631
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: for money and and people like yourselves give it um So,

632
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: but what we're looking at right now is listen, we

633
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: happen to be at the nexus of a really amazing industry.

634
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: Here can we use our network to put product in

635
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: the market like a newman's own and let people help

636
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: by buying flower at a price because we have the

637
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: growers that could put the best flour in that miler

638
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: bag at the best price. So we're providing a service

639
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: but people who can buy that, and then we can

640
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: turn around and buy medicine and get medicine now through

641
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: these SP thirty four events or by the way, every

642
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: month we're doing five events from San Diego all the

643
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: way to Humble where veterans are coming together when we're

644
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: doing those things. That's what we're gonna be looking at doing.

645
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: So if you want to help us, I think you

646
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: know what we're about is really what we found is

647
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: we didn't want to pit the veteran brand and so

648
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: we haven't done anything. But it's the time now, we

649
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: think to bring it to to the market to you know,

650
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: everyone knows what we do, or most people, not everyone,

651
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: but most people in the industry do Can we take

652
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: what we do and put it on steroids if we

653
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: can do that in a transparent way, Um, that's what

654
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: we're looking to do. And I think we can accomplish

655
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: what we're doing under the new model with SP thirty

656
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: four past last year and we've done now six or

657
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: seven events and we're ramping that up. We're gonna do

658
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: five events in October. We're gonna do one in Los Angeles.

659
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: But now, if we could put our brand in the market,

660
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: people can get a great product with a great flower,

661
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: great you know, concentrate, and then that money goes back

662
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: to help you know, the organization and the veterans. I

663
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: think that's kind of where we're at. And we're moving forward.

664
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: So I think in the near future you'll see us

665
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: in markets. So you're gonna you're gonna create a brand.

666
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: It's already warriors, not not not the I know. I

667
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: know that I'm at an actual flower product that you

668
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: consumable product in the market that's going to hit the market.

669
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: And then and then are you gonna are you gonna

670
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: get that donated to you and then put it on

671
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: because that's ingenious right there. And for profit entities where

672
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: the profit then is go to fund what we're doing.

673
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't pay each other. We don't charge veterans,

674
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: We've never charged anybody. We don't pay each other a salary.

675
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: We make no money. I mean, you're talking less than

676
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: ten thousand a year we get donated that goes out

677
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: the door. And we've done that on purpose because once

678
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: money enters the question given't it goes crazy. Um, we

679
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: haven't launched because the partnership bringing partners in. It's the

680
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: culture where we have we have the ability to self

681
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: launch this thing now and uh and not have to

682
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: worry about others. And so yeah, we're gonna take a

683
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: shot at doing that. And our thought is if we

684
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: then take the proceeds and instead of asking for donations,

685
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: can create meds that we can give away, it's just

686
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna amplify our reach and do what we've done for

687
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: the past six years on a different level. Sean, let

688
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: me ask you as I see the v A right

689
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: over here off the four oh five that has a

690
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: huge you know, a lot a lot of space there

691
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: and differ locations across the country. I'm sure have you

692
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: know space where they have the v A buildings. Can

693
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: you foresee, God Willie one day where they're actually growing

694
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: cannabis at the v A. And when you come to

695
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: the v A for your check up, here's an eighth

696
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: here's an ounce talk to the week. We're growing our

697
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: own weed for Warriors are right down the block here

698
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: they'll help you with it. Not even down the block,

699
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean like that. They can have a big old

700
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: grow right there. Or you have a representative from we

701
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: for Warriors representing the at the VA hospital and although

702
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: we play in Texas, I don't care. I see it coming.

703
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: I see it coming. I would love for that to

704
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: have five years. What's your vision, say, like five years

705
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: already another country? So like Canada, right now I can

706
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: get up. I think it's three grams. It used to

707
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: be up to like ten or eleven grams a day.

708
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: I can get three grams of flowers sent to me

709
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: in the mail a day a flower. You can choose

710
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: concentrates and veteran for veterans in Canada, in veterans a

711
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: cannabis and lieu of pharmaceuticals, and they'll even pay for

712
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: a vaporizer like a volcano. So other countries are doing it.

713
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: So the reality is most of the science over time

714
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: is done. If it's I think the eight could get there.

715
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: I think the reality is we are dealing with a

716
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: hyper conservative medical system in a hyper conservative country, and

717
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: we can't even pass a banking bill on the federal level.

718
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: I think the discussions of be a reimbursement is what

719
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: it would probably be, meaning we buy the it could happen,

720
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's a realistic access choice in

721
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: the next five ten years. Um. But and that's why

722
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: I think we decided to go our our route, because

723
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: what we're talking about is accents, right and veterans. You know,

724
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: this is I say, you guys are selling these under

725
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: this tax and regulate model that taxes the ship out

726
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: of this thing. And let's say an eight costs forty dollars,

727
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: and that's an average eight, and after taxes most you

728
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: get up fifty and higher. But that's four joints today,

729
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: that's one average vets use morning, lunch, afternoon after gets

730
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: off working evening to go to bed forty times thirties dollars.

731
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: An average VET makes, disable vet makes three thousand. He

732
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: is not going to take you know, uht of his

733
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: income and paid. And that's you know, the dispensary model.

734
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: That's why we have the illicit market we do. So

735
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: what our approaches about with bringing our brandom market is

736
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: can we use that as a solution to access until

737
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: the V eight comes to market, Because until the V

738
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: eight comes to market, or insurance comes to market, people

739
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: are gonna have to pay out of their own pocket,

740
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: and people who make three thousand dollars a month, they're

741
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to medicate properly in the dispensary

742
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: or Prop sixty four market. So that's the exact thing

743
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: we're trying to tackle. To answer your question, if I

744
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: thought the v A was a realistic option, we'd probably

745
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: let them do it. Yeah, I mean, it's it's sad that,

746
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: you know, we we talked about five ten years out.

747
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: I think you're right, because you know, I was just

748
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: reading today about the More Act that the House was

749
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: going to vote on, and they put off the vote

750
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: on the More Act because how it'll look, how even

751
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: the freaking Democrats, how it would look. And trying to

752
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: pass this More Act when you got the pandemic going on,

753
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: you have this going on, they're still the politicians. The

754
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: politicians are still more worried about the optics than about

755
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: what really helps people. I mean, we've got we we've

756
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: got what thirty thirty three thirty thirty five states that

757
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: allow medical marijuana. Eleven of those states and Washington have

758
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: legalized it for twenty one or over six more states

759
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: are voting on it this year, and we still got

760
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: a federal government Democrats and Republicans alike. That's still just

761
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what the problem is that the optics

762
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: of of of being pro cannabis, they might lose an election.

763
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: South Dakota is strong right now too. They're making a

764
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: lot of noise out there, so hopefully they're one of

765
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: the six that makes the moves. They are one of

766
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: the six. We got it, and you're not even getting

767
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: the straight story on what happened with the More Act.

768
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: And we can talk about it if you want another

769
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: time or now. But the thing is we have to

770
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: realize it's not only are politicians that aren't focused on

771
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: the people. What helps the people, it's the lobbyist. And

772
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: as much as it pains to see me when you

773
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: see normal and people like that, they're advocating for the

774
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: industry and patients are not the industry. Patients are the consumer.

775
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: And so I'm all for the More acting and de scheduling.

776
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: What I'm not for is basically giving the More Act,

777
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: which eliminates to eight for the industry, is good news,

778
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: but by paying a five percent tax for spend that

779
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: doesn't excite me, but yeah, it's corrupt as all hell

780
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: what's going on. But that's not just cannabis. That's everything

781
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: in American politics. And it's like, it's funny when you

782
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: look at that and you look at more of it,

783
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: it's like it's gonna cost more anyways, it goes through,

784
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: it legalize, this takes away that helps us, but yet

785
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: charges more people, even more taxes than what you're already

786
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: looking at anyway, is it's the highest effective tax at

787
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: the end of the day here in California. It's just

788
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: absolutely ludicrous, ludicrous that policy because no matter what you

789
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: think the taxes are, they're gonna be used for. All

790
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna do is hurt the legal industry suboptimal amount

791
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: of taxes you could get for the state, and it

792
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: creates an illicit market, which creates the pest society issues

793
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: for patients, which creates the criminality issues for patients. And

794
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: you know what we're being told as patients that d

795
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: p A in those places like normal, they're focused on

796
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: the industry, not on a function industry. And that's the

797
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: problem we have with Prop sixty four. It's it's not

798
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: functional right now. Sean from Weed for Warriors project. Before

799
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: we break and go to the High five, I wanted

800
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: to get you on a random question right here, as

801
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: you are a veteran. Your thoughts on John McCain, would

802
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: you say he's a war hero or not? Well, listen,

803
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: I think no matter how you look at politics and

804
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: fair disclosure, my conservative veteran friends think I'm a communist

805
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: and my and my liberal my lip royal of vetcheer

806
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: friends think I'm a conservative white male. So um, I

807
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: will say this, I think you have to honor John

808
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: McCain for his service. I think you have to realize

809
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: what John McCain went through as a prisoner of war

810
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: and honor him for that. Do I agree with John

811
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: McCain on his politics. No, not in a lot of it.

812
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: But he stood for something. And I think to DENNI

813
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: great John McCain, uh serves nobody and I and I

814
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: would say, there's there's always those people who want to hate.

815
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, he was a veteran.

816
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: He stood up when he didn't have to because he

817
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: was the son of a wealthy business yo admiral. He

818
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: didn't have to serve. He served, he was shot down,

819
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: he was a prisoner of war, and I think at

820
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he did what he thought

821
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: was right. So in my mind, I think I admire

822
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: John McCain. I think he deserves our respect. And I've

823
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: never heard of talking ill of people who are dead

824
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: as as a positive. And I think anyone who talks

825
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: ill of the dead and positive a war hero, especially

826
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: someone who's not, I have to question what their purposes

827
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: fair enough answer. We don't have to get in any politics.

828
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: I was literally just curious about that. For those who

829
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: can read between the lines, you guys know what I'm

830
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: talking about, but I'm curious. As a fed you know better.

831
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: He's no John Joe Biden. There, you idiots, no reason

832
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: you ask it? Well, no, it's because I wanted to

833
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: get a standpoint from somebody who's, you know, strong military

834
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: vet doing things for the military vets, and you know

835
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: your your record shows for itself. And it really actually

836
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: hurts my gut and heart and mind when I think

837
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: of what has been said about him from the leadership

838
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: of this country. And I was just curious on what

839
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: a fellow veteran thought about it, because it hurts me.

840
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: And I'm not a vet. My father was and I feel,

841
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: um uh that it disgraces our veterans and our military

842
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: when somebody says something like that about somebody who's done

843
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: what he's done, and I feel like somebody with that

844
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: much power should never open his mouth like that. I

845
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: think what you said was very poetic, and I feel

846
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: the same way, And that's why I just wanted to

847
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: see if I was on the same standpoint, and no,

848
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: you're exact same. When in the source of those criticisms,

849
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: wherever they come from, I think I've learned something. Usually

850
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: the criticism of the projection of the person saying it,

851
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: and then I think that fits those perfectly, and I

852
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: would leave it at that perfectly. We come back. We're

853
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: gonna have a good time with the high five. It's

854
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: Sean from We for Warriors. It's kind of a talk

855
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: one oh one. Yes, welcome back to a player means

856
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: when we're gonna play this one. I was wondering how

857
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: the song went, say yes, you're gonna learn the words, Joe,

858
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: what movies? It's just this's welcome back. Oh God, I

859
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: love that horse. Great call right there, guys, A good job,

860
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, a good team work. I don't know how

861
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: you guys put that together that we've even seen it,

862
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: but I loved it. Yes, it had, it had to happen.

863
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: It had. That's fortunate enough to say thank you Pitt,

864
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: thank you Peanut, thank you Jennifer, and thank you always

865
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: for everything you do. That's right there, folks, is what

866
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: we call everything that you do that you guys get

867
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: to experience with a beautiful thing. Man. Now is time

868
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: for the high five with Sean from Weed for Warriors project,

869
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: and again I want to thank you Sean. You know again,

870
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure. I love having intelligent conversations with

871
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: you and what you guys do is more than honorable.

872
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: So thank you for all of yours. Yeah, and it

873
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: was funny because we were on a conference call just yesterday,

874
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, and we brought your name up,

875
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: and uh, maybe it was brought up about three weeks ago,

876
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: who knows. We got cut out. But then Craig, Craig,

877
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: please reach out to him. We want to talk to

878
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: Sean again from Weed for war He's such a poetic man.

879
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: So I thinks we've had him on since we've been on.

880
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: I know we haven't had him on the podcast. We've

881
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: had worldwide, worldwide, worldwide countries. It just went up. Here's

882
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: the latest news, ladies and gentlemen. We are now heard

883
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: in eighty eight different countries. So we jumped up two countries.

884
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: Nice and what is that? Pitt? Fresh? I think it

885
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: was fresh problems. That's what Pitt says. Because we've seen

886
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: some different countries. It's very it's just very iNeST. We

887
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: know what those countries are. I did we read them?

888
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: I said, They're so hard to just remember off the

889
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: top of my head, but I have the list in

890
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: the other room. I was just happy that it went

891
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: up two more countries. So thank you everybody for listening

892
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: to us around the world a lot. I mean you'd

893
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: be surprised. I mean, Uranus is right there to question

894
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: number one for the High five with Mr Sean from

895
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: Weird for Warriors project. How old we the first time

896
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: you smoked weed? And where'd you get it from? Oh? Well,

897
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: I smoked twice when I was a teen kid and

898
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: it was my girlfriend that I was trying to score

899
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: with and she got which wasn't very good cannabis and

900
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: I smoked it and I was like, what the hell

901
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: was this? And I ended up going to alcohol from

902
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: my high school drug of choice. And then literally it

903
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: wasn't until I was on Wall Street and my wife

904
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: in two thousand four or five was having headaches and

905
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: she was going through the pharmaceutical approach and my good friend,

906
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: who ran a large multi bill into our our fund

907
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: from m I T said why don't you try cannabis

908
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: or why don't you try cannabis. I'm like, you got

909
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: any and literally said no problem. We went down for lunch,

910
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: got a ball, walked upstairs. The guy shows up with

911
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: on Park Avenue with the pizza box, opens it up

912
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: and it's like every possible strain, Okay, I'll take some

913
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: sour ds. I'll take this. I went home. At this

914
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: point in time, we're living in Connecticut, it's you know, summer.

915
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: I get the kids down at eight thirty. We go upstairs,

916
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: smoke uh um cough, and we go down and swim

917
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: for the next two hours. And literally I was like,

918
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: why the hell is this shitty illegal? And you gotta remember,

919
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: this is someone who participated in the drug war in

920
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: the military, saw friends die. Now is able to put

921
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: two and two together, and I'm like, this is criminal.

922
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: What's going on? And that's when my wife and I

923
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: started using it together, and it was it was an

924
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: intermediate thing at that time, and then it wasn't until

925
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: I literally hit rock bottom that I used to use it.

926
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: Started using exclusively as a medicine in two thousand and thirteen,

927
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: and that changed my world. We already know this answer,

928
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: you already told us. But number two is what is

929
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: your favorite way to use cannabis? Rectel rectel, greg Reco

930
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: suppositories or someone finger with some cream on it. Yeah,

931
00:47:54,680 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: that's not cannabis. That's just called his neighbor's neighbor is

932
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: Vegas sweaty finger neighbor. Are you still you're sure you're

933
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: still sober? Right? I mean, is that face down? Our

934
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: standing up? If we're being blunt? Question number question number

935
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: three of the high five was Sean from Weed for

936
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: Warrior Projects, craziest place you've ever used cannabis or smoked it?

937
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: I like the looking at him, He's like, this place

938
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: you've ever used? I mean I would say, you know

939
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: that the craziest place has been probably at the v

940
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: A in the psych word. Oh I try. You know,

941
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: my lawyer later called me an idiots And you know

942
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: that's federal property and you probably had enough to put

943
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: you away to Hi said, thank god my wife has

944
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 1: had a you know, nice boobs because it hit it. Well, yeah,

945
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: that's always a good question. Number four, what is your

946
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: go to munchies after you get high? I like corn nuts?

947
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: Is that a flavor? You know? Those are always good.

948
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes we get him in the office here and they

949
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: go so fast. Do you still get the munches? Because

950
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's a tough question because I don't

951
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: think I do anymore. I don't think you get high.

952
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't think My side doctor at the v A

953
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: accuses my being overweight by fifteen or twenty pounds as

954
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: because I'm probably thirty or thirty five. But go ahead,

955
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: oh here we go. Yeah, we'll just go to Sorry, Sean,

956
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this. The camera ads weight. My bad,

957
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: it's your camera. Change the lens. But um, yeah, you

958
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: know what I would say, I smoke all day, so

959
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: I think it's not No. I don't get the muncheese.

960
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: I think I I eat. You know what the problem is,

961
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: people emotionally eat, and so a lot of people are

962
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: using cannabis for emotional support or those reasons, are gonna

963
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: snack anyways because they get their you know, their their

964
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: food as a way to release the endorphins and so forth.

965
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: So a lot of people who are dealing with the PTSD,

966
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: it kind of is interesting that counteracts that. And that's

967
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: what I've experienced since I've used it so much. Is

968
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: I no longer get the munchies, But I would say

969
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: that my weight is stabilized, So I don't think it's

970
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 1: an issue any longer for me. Obviously, I'm very emotional.

971
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: Look at me emotionally, alright. Number five, Since you've already

972
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: smoked with us, if you could smoke with anyone get

973
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: or alive, who would it be? And why? I know

974
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: Mark and Craig because they're just the part brothers. Laws

975
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: with anyone other than the partethers, because you've already done that,

976
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: you know what, Probably I would I would love to

977
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: do someone like you know, uh political, So I'm thinking,

978
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: you know Roosevelt, Teddy, good old Teddy Roosevelt. Yeah, someone

979
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: like that, probably yeah there or or you know, uh,

980
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: World War two Roosevelt and and maybe his wife. And

981
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: mainly because I'm fascinated by how America came through the

982
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: Great Depression and then went into you know, World War Two,

983
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: which ended up getting this out and how Roosevelt did

984
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: four terms and you know, stacked the court some very

985
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: relevant issues to today, depending on what side you're on.

986
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: And I would love to to understand because one thing

987
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: I've learned doing this is what you're hear in the

988
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: press h a lot not the advertising mark. It would

989
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: really get high with like talk about the reality of

990
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: the things he dealt with, and so yeah, I would

991
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: probably say it was about why did you say that?

992
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: Because of what we're here in the press say that again, No,

993
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I would love to talk to

994
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: him about the issues he encountered with stacking the court

995
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: because when he came into power, his new deal of

996
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: social security and medical and those things were not gonna pass.

997
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: So he literally had to stack the court with judges

998
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: and increase the number of judges on the Supreme Court

999
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: to be fat to get all this stuff okay. And

1000
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: so we're entering that kind of time frame with Trump

1001
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: now able to put on another conservative and at the

1002
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: same time you have Democrats now talking about stacking the

1003
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: court if he does that with additional justice, which would

1004
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: you know, Craig could tell a lot of increase the

1005
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: number of judges from I think it's at nine to

1006
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: uh yeah, to bounce it. And so that's kind of

1007
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: I would say right now, who I'd like to smoke with,

1008
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: go back at Roosevelt and and see him in his

1009
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: natural state of polio, which again the press didn't talk about.

1010
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: So those are things I'd love to get high with

1011
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: him the White House, that would be my choice. Fantastic,

1012
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: that's an interesting choice. We've never heard that one, but

1013
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: those are three reasons why. And like you said, with

1014
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: current times, it would give you, you know, a different

1015
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: view of to look at things different in a different way.

1016
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: But it's more of just to take over bottom line. Well, Sean, Sean,

1017
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure to have you on the show.

1018
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, is there anything you

1019
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: want to plug for the week? Four? Is projects? Your Instagram's,

1020
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: facebooks and et cetera. No, if you're interested in getting

1021
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: know us and reach out on our social media, which

1022
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: is Instagram, w at w FW Underscore project, so Facebook, same,

1023
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: reach out under direct message there or email which is

1024
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: just gonna be info at w FW project dot org

1025
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: and we'll get back to you. And again we're all volunteers,

1026
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: uh and so We're not the great as the customer service,

1027
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: but we're on the front line's help and so please

1028
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: forgive us. Hey Man, thank you for everything you do. Man,

1029
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: we love you and appreciate It's Cannabis Talk one on one.

1030
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: Remember this. If no one else loves you, we do.

1031
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to another podcast of Cannabis Talk

1032
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: one oh one, the world's number one source for everything cannabis,

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00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 1: featuring Sean Kiernan from the Wheat for Warriors Project.