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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology, evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show, Havelina versus Golf Course, who

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Speaker 1: will come out on top and who will get torn

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Speaker 1: to shreds? Why are we rooting for the Havelina to

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Speaker 1: tear up the third hole on the back nine? Plus

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Speaker 1: we're talking about other above par animals who love to

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Speaker 1: crash us Snoody Golf Club, Discoverabs, and more as we

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Speaker 1: answer the age old question, why in God's name aren't

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Speaker 1: we litting the opossum play some good old American football

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Speaker 1: cinemn coach. Joining me today is comedian actor, TV writer,

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Speaker 1: president of the United States and part of Team have

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Speaker 1: Alina Kylie Brakeman.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Hi, thank you for having me, and thank you

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Speaker 2: for getting my president credit.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people, Yeah, yeah, some people think it's

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Speaker 1: some guy named Jim Barson, and that's.

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Speaker 2: A true Borden I'm hearing. Yeah, I doesn't sound familiar

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, this is the world I live in

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Speaker 1: where Kylie Brakman is president and it's happy and fun.

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Speaker 1: And as president, are you on Team have Alina or

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Speaker 1: team stupid golf course.

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Speaker 2: I am on fully, I'm throwing my weight all in

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Speaker 2: behind team Hovelina. I think that what these girls are

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Speaker 2: doing out here is noble. I think it's right, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's about time someone stood up to golf courses.

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Speaker 1: It is, it really is. For too long have golf

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Speaker 1: courses had free reign to be there to charge their

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Speaker 1: stupid fees. Hit those stupid little balls with those dumb

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Speaker 1: little sticks.

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Speaker 2: They're not even those those sprinklers going it. It's too much.

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Speaker 1: It's too much, and we love a Hoveolino. So for

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Speaker 1: those of you who live under a rock and haven't

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Speaker 1: been paying attention to the news about Havelina attacking golf courses,

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Speaker 1: someone posted a video I believe, on Twitter, or as

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Speaker 1: they call it X.

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Speaker 2: The Sinister I know X.

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Speaker 1: I'm still gonna call it Twitter. Is everyone alrite with

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Speaker 1: me doing that?

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Speaker 2: Because it makes me feel uncomfor I've tried to call

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Speaker 2: it X and just be like, oh, it's been given.

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Speaker 2: It feels like it makes me gag to say I

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Speaker 2: can't say it. No. It makes me feel like the

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Speaker 2: collective reality hallucination where Twitter is still called Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because like when I'm like this post on x

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Speaker 1: it's like, well this is a family friendly production. It

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Speaker 1: sounds a little bit, I don't know, a little bit

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Speaker 1: below the belt there. So yeah, this post on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: it is a photo of a massacred golf course. So

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Speaker 1: the golf course Seven Canyons Golf Club located in Coconino

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Speaker 1: National Forest in Arizona. So one posted this video of like,

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Speaker 1: look at how torn up this golf course is, and

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Speaker 1: it didn't go well for the person. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: name the person because nobody sided with this. I think

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Speaker 1: golf course manager who was upset about the golf course

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Speaker 1: being torn to shreds because it was done by the

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Speaker 1: Havelina and Kylie, you've seen Havelina before, right, I have.

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Speaker 2: Seen, Well this Hovelina golf course feud was my first

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Speaker 2: introduction to the Hovelina, and I was floored by what

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Speaker 2: they look like. I did not expect them to be

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Speaker 2: so I did not expect the heels. It looks like

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Speaker 2: they're wearing tiny little heels and it looks like every

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Speaker 2: single one of them is kind of of the girly variety. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I I just fell in love with them right

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Speaker 2: away and I think the rest of the internet did too.

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Speaker 2: We're like, how could we be against these guys?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like how you put it that you didn't

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Speaker 1: realize that they're one of the girlies, but indeed they are.

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Speaker 1: All of them are. Actually, there's not too much sexual dimorphism,

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Speaker 1: so you can't really tell the difference between the males

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Speaker 1: and females. Uh, but I'm gonna say they're just all

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Speaker 1: part of the girlies. Uh. And you're right, they do

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Speaker 1: have the little heels, the little huves, and very Louis vouton.

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Speaker 1: They are a pig like animal. They are not pigs,

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Speaker 1: nor are they bores. They are actually peckery's, which either

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Speaker 1: name you call them is great. Have Alina or peckery.

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Speaker 2: It just you know, yeah, it's like a different it's

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Speaker 2: a different type of gurley, but like I still get it.

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Speaker 2: It sounds a little preppier, but but I'm in it

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Speaker 2: sounds a doorble.

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Speaker 1: So yeah. A peckery is part of the Suena suborder,

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Speaker 1: which includes wart hogs, pigs, bores, and hogs. So they

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Speaker 1: are related to wild boars, but they are not the

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Speaker 1: same and they are not invasive like wild boars. Havelina

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Speaker 1: are native to the Arizona region. This is their home.

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Speaker 1: And so this golf course is located in this natural

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Speaker 1: habitat of the Havelina. It's a national forest, which is

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Speaker 1: a combination of desert, ponderosa pines, tundra and flatlands. When

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Speaker 1: you look at the surrounding area of the golf course,

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Speaker 1: you see all these mesas, this kind of scrub, this

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Speaker 1: spotted land, it does not and then you see this

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Speaker 1: weird giant artificial green lawn. So it's very strange to

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Speaker 2: Really, like, that is their home. You put a golf

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Speaker 2: course in Hovelina's house and you are shocked that they're

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Speaker 2: coming in to use your stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, hey, this is Causa Hovelina and now there's

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Speaker 1: a golf course here, and they're like, hey, actually, uh no,

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Speaker 1: no more golf course. No you actually can't have that. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the video posted is the aftermath of something tearing

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Speaker 1: up the lawn. This was the Hovelina and the superintendent

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Speaker 1: of the golf course. Again not going to name any

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Speaker 1: names because if the Hovelina know where to find her,

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Speaker 1: what can I say, It's not going to be pretty.

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Speaker 2: Hovelinas are notorious for dosing to eat. Don't want to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they're they put like BDS supporters to shame

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Speaker 1: that they're they're frighteningly efficient. So yeah, the superintendent wrote,

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Speaker 1: what should be one of the most beautiful golf courses

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Speaker 1: in the tree is being destroyed by herds of hovellina.

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Speaker 1: Uh And the Internet was not sympathetic to this plaintive cry.

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Speaker 1: They ended up siding with the hovelina for a few reasons,

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Speaker 1: ecological and also because I want you to google a

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Speaker 1: hovelina right now. It's spelled j A v E l

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Speaker 1: show notes, but look at them. Just look at them,

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Speaker 1: and look up a baby hovelina too, Google a baby

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Speaker 1: that's b a b y havevelina.

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Speaker 2: My gosh, I think I just got to the picture.

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Speaker 1: Of them, of the babies. Yes, of the baby.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the most precious things I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: It's baby. It's it's when you think baby, this is

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Speaker 1: this is what it is. This is what a baby is.

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Speaker 2: It simply is baby. There's no getting around that. I

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Speaker 2: can debate this all day, but that baby is baby.

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Speaker 1: It's the core essence of baby. Sort of sub made

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Speaker 1: it's precious. And anything we can do to make this

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Speaker 1: baby happy, whether it's to tear up a golf course,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will throw down for baby. I will put

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Speaker 2: my life on the line for baby. I will do

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Speaker 2: anything it takes, because, frankly, the idea of this baby

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Speaker 2: shedding a tear makes me really upset.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, can you imagine just a little teardrop rolling

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Speaker 1: down that little pink nose land on one of those

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Speaker 1: dainty little Louis Vouton hooves. No, we can't make baby cry.

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Speaker 2: Nah, I'm gonna rip up the golf course that did

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Speaker 2: that to you.

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Speaker 1: I will buy hand rip up a golf course if

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Speaker 1: it makes this baby happy. For it.

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Speaker 2: It'll take me a while, it'll take me longer than

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Speaker 2: a hovelina, but I'll do probably.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you know it's hard because you get like

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Speaker 1: the dirt on your nail, under your nails, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't love that. Yeah, I don't love it either.

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Speaker 1: I like using a good little shovel, One of those

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Speaker 1: little shovels is good yeah, big fan of a shovel,

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Speaker 1: big fan of shovels. So but yeah, the havevelina don't

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Speaker 1: need shovels because their face is essentially an adorable shovel.

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Speaker 1: And they are, Yeah, they're they're very like fluffy. That's

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Speaker 1: number one. It's kind of a it's not really fur,

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Speaker 1: it's hair. It's this bristly hair. They have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a faux hawk going down their head and back,

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Speaker 1: just a little one. It's very subtle.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, the texture looks like a little like it

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Speaker 2: could almost be sort of like hedgehoggy like spikes, but

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Speaker 2: I guess, but it must be softer than that.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's not quite hedgehog, but I mean the

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Speaker 1: thing is hedgehogs, porcupines. Those spikes are modified hairs. So

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Speaker 1: when you look at something like this, you can kind

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Speaker 1: of see that better, Like these are not related, but

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Speaker 1: despite the hedgehog being called a hedgehog, it's actually not

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Speaker 1: in the same order as these. But like that, you

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Speaker 1: this hair is quite bristly, and then once you have

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Speaker 1: these sort of mega hairs on say like a porcupine,

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Speaker 1: where it's a very thick, grown together, solid bristle that

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Speaker 1: ends in a point. Then you got a porcupine.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's still in the like the porcupine spines

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Speaker 2: are technically hair.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very cool. Yeah, it's it's technically still something

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Speaker 1: that you could put in a commercial where it's like

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Speaker 1: a bunch of fruit falling down in a shower, you know,

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Speaker 1: like where you have the hair commercials.

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Speaker 2: Legally could be in a panteine commercial.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: Do I still happen? Yeah, it's good that the door

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Speaker 2: is open for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like there's always fruit in those commercials.

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Speaker 1: Am I remembering wrong? I always feel like fruit in

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Speaker 1: a shower. I think of all.

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Speaker 2: These women have scurvy. They need to need to eat

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Speaker 2: their vitamin C in the shower to keep that hair shiny.

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Speaker 1: So the bristle of the havelina is not it's not spines,

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Speaker 1: so they won't puncture you. That's not where the business

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Speaker 1: end is. The business end is the tusks. So they

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Speaker 1: do have a couple of tusks. In fact, the whole

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Speaker 1: reason they're called hovelina is because of this pair of

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Speaker 1: sharp tusks. It is from habilina, the Spanish word for spear.

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Speaker 1: So they have these little tusks. They're actually the tusks too,

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Speaker 1: are gurly coated because they are a little more dainty,

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Speaker 1: a little less like gnarly than say, like a boar tusk.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean they're not sharp. They are pointy.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I just looked up a picture of the tusk.

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Speaker 2: They're dainty, they're hidden, but they do look dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's like a lady's you know, back in the

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Speaker 1: day when we used to have hair pins and we

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Speaker 1: used to pull those out of our hair and stab

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Speaker 1: people with them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, well it's the that was what the hair Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's hat pins. I think that they still can't remember.

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Speaker 1: I mean we were both alive and like this, well

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Speaker 1: like college or something. Yeah, yeah, it's hard to remember

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Speaker 1: the Clinton years. But yeah, no, I mean it's it

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Speaker 1: is very like hat pin, like lady with a hat

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Speaker 1: pin coated and they are used for defense. They are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fact that they're even fighting back is impressive

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Speaker 1: Yes, they're just smashing pumpkins. Favorite that it's a hippo's

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Speaker 1: This yourself exactly. It's like, hey, where's my slightly rotting pumpkin?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What is this lavender? This is gross?

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Speaker 2: Do you like eating bananas?

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Speaker 2: My gosh, because I guess there's a reason there's no

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that is horrible. That is actively horrible.

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Speaker 1: That is horrible. That's a horrible idea in that you know,

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Speaker 1: We're all we're all mad at you, Kylie. You've really

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Speaker 2: So I and this maybe ties into why I am

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Speaker 2: auditioning or sorry trying out tryouts. You could see how

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Speaker 2: so it was always so hot, and we would go

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00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: to these golf courses and golf course after golf course,

432
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: and just I was so bad at golf and we

433
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: didn't have like so much of golfing. I would say

434
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: ninety percent of it is walking to the next hole. Yeah,

435
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: because like we're kids, They're not going to give us

436
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: golf carts.

437
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: We're not nice.

438
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: It would be nice, and I think that's what everybody

439
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: else is using, but we weren't. And so we were

440
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: just walking this whole golf course and they're huge, uh,

441
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: and we'd be sweating, and I just and I realized, well, okay,

442
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: this was the final straw for me. Is so I

443
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 2: was technically like I was on a junior varsity golf team,

444
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: like wow, legally on paper on a golf team, and

445
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be this like competition at a

446
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: golf competition at the end called.

447
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 3: Tournaments tournament, and so there was a tournament at the end,

448
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: and they're like everybody on the team is I was

449
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: usually benched, and they're like everybody on the team is

450
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: playing in this one.

451
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: And me and my other friend who was also like

452
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: horrible at golf, we were matched up as a as

453
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: a duo and we were golfing our way through. And

454
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: then I don't remember how we found this out, but

455
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: we realized that we were the only two people who

456
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: scores were not being counted. They were just sending us

457
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: through this course to do it and not telling us

458
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: that we weren't included in the final score. They just

459
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: like kept that from us, and looking back, it makes sense,

460
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: but we were like I would have stayed home. I

461
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: would have just pretended to be sick. I didn't have

462
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: to come all the way out here to Santa Clarita

463
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: or wherever to do this.

464
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: It's like a wily coyote level diversion, like painting a

465
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: golf course on a cliff face and being like, go

466
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: play golf over there.

467
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 2: That's horrible, sinister. So I think I have a lifelong

468
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 2: sort of bias against golf courses.

469
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I feel that I'll mess with a miniature golf.

470
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: I'll do that.

471
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

472
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: I love a mini golf mostly because I do like

473
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: feeling like a giant when they've got like the houses

474
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: and the windmills and stuff, and I'm like, rah, I'm

475
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: so big, and then I hit a ball. It's like

476
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: fear of me, townspeople.

477
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: It's fun to feel like you're a big foot running

478
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 2: through a Dutch village.

479
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: That's like my number one fantasy is to be a

480
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: big foot in a Dutch village. So that's why I

481
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: like miniature golf. I once played miniature golf at a

482
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: birthday party in elementary school, and I got an award

483
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: for the lowest score and I thought they were like

484
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: messing with me. I didn't understand that you want a

485
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: low score, so I.

486
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: Thought, so funny, I thought, I point, golf, make it

487
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: high scores, just make it, just flip it.

488
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: Do it. The most swings the most wins.

489
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, I yea swings the fastest.

490
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: Whoever hits the ball the hardest. Uh, it doesn't matter

491
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: where it goes, it's just that energy. Yeah. But I

492
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: thought I thought they were making fun of me, so

493
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: it was really sad about it. And then I found

494
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: out that's so fun.

495
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: How long did it take you to figure out that

496
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: you were actually the winner?

497
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: I think I told my mommy that they all made

498
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: fun of me with an award.

499
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: For worst, and she not get your moment.

500
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: So then she looked at the war and she's like, honey,

501
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: this means you won. I was like, I what anyways?

502
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's a topic for my therapist childhood trauma.

503
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: Right. So uh I too. Uh. I have no love

504
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: for golf courses. I'm not saying that you cannot that.

505
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: This is not like an anti golf podcast. Uh. If

506
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: you like to golf, I'm not coming for you. I'm

507
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: coming for specific golf courses because specific golf courses suck.

508
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: Like when you put a golf course in sort of

509
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: a desert terrain, a semi arid terrain, it's not gonna

510
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: be good. So, uh, it takes up a huge amount

511
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: of water because that green lawn, Like when you look

512
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: at the picture of it, like we were talking about earlier,

513
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: it the it's a stark difference between the surrounding environment.

514
00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: You have this like lush green, like uncanny grass, and

515
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: then around it it's semiarit. So you've got your little

516
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: scrubby brush she got your ma says, you got kind

517
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: of red sandy hills and stuff, and so to maintain that,

518
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: you need a ton of water. And the Arizona Department

519
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: of Water Resources says that golf courses in the state

520
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: of Arizona often exceed their allotted water usage. So that's

521
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: not great.

522
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, grass just loves to soak up water. It's so ugh.

523
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: It's so upsetting because I don't even think grass looks

524
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: that good. Yeah, I feel like we could just fake it.

525
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: I feel like we have the technology.

526
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: Although I do hate AstroTurf. Yeah, AstroTurf freaks me out.

527
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: And then whenever I have when I used to live

528
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: in la and I would take my dog on walks

529
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: and sometimes there would only be like AstroTurf nearby, and

530
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: she'd try to do a poopy on it. It's like,

531
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? Like do I win

532
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: decks the astro turf?

533
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that she doesn't do it.

534
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: I have to like clean it. I have to get

535
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: like I have to like sponge off this ask the

536
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: crappy doodoo streaks on the astro turf. So I hate that. Uh,

537
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it's not great to try to

538
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: look like there's a ton of places where you could

539
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: have a sustainable golf course, like golf was admitted in Scotland,

540
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: I think for a reason because it's like, you know,

541
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: they got tons of grass just there. You don't even

542
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: have to planet.

543
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: It's already there, endless.

544
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

545
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: Uh, and like there are Southern California is not meant for.

546
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: Not really no, no, not not not especially.

547
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: Oh wait this is where is this?

548
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: This is this is an Arizona.

549
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: It's a similar it's another even worse.

550
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a similar situation in Arizona. So yeah, the

551
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: unnatural grass of a golf course also reduces the diversity

552
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: of plan. It's insects animals in that area. Again, like

553
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: a golf course in an area where like grass and

554
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 1: the tree, like say you use native trees and then

555
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: the grass is also a typical part of that environment.

556
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: It can be okay unless you hit like a rare

557
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: bird with a golf ball. You can have a golf

558
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: course that's more or less like fine. Again, like in

559
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: the Arizona semi arid area. It's just really hard to

560
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: make that work. One of the reasons the havelina are

561
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: encroaching more on the golf course is not just a

562
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: righteous anti golf stance, but because they are driven there

563
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: by the drought because they have less access to you know,

564
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: they eat a lot of vegetation, and so yeah, drought

565
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: means less of these this abundance of the succulents that

566
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: they eat, and so they see golf.

567
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: Courses have a lot of water. They've gotten a lot

568
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: of that. Those aquapanas, they've got fancy water there.

569
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: They do like the alkaline what is it the like water.

570
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: It's either alkaline free or full of alkalines. I don't

571
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: remember what's good.

572
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: There is the word alkaline on the bottle for shripe

573
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: whether it's no alkaline or a lot of it. That's

574
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: how you know.

575
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: How much alkalines should I have? I don't. I've never

576
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: figured that out.

577
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: No, No, I've never. It's not on the food pyramids,

578
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: so I not. Yeah.

579
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the havelina that they want them they want

580
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 1: well not really the water, but they do want the

581
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: grass and the grubs especially. There's a lot of grubs

582
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: in the ground, in the grass, and that's why they're

583
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: tearing up the grass to get at the grubs because

584
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: in a drought it's harder for them to get food elsewhere.

585
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: And then when you have golf courses soaking up all

586
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: the water, that only like contributes to the drought. So

587
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, hey, you know what, I'm sorry, but.

588
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're laying if you, as a golf course,

589
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: are laying out a buffet of firms and and and insects,

590
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: you can't be surprised if someone comes and runs against it.

591
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. So in the past, golf courses have tried to

592
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: discourage have alina by sprinkling coyote peepe around the golf course.

593
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: You can buy I guess you can buy coyote peepe.

594
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: I didn't realize this that you can just like go

595
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: on like Amazon and buy coyote peepe.

596
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: Man, that's that's too accessible. I wish it were harder

597
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: to get coyote p.

598
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, like I feel that if we

599
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: don't make it accessible and safe, that people are gonna

600
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: get coyote pepe like on the black market and it's

601
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: gonna be cut with like fin or something.

602
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: That's true. You can never be sure what's.

603
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: Like, right, yeah, yeah, you legalize and regulate I'm legalized

604
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: legalize and regulate coyote pep. But apparently so the idea

605
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: is that the Havelina hate coyotes and so if you

606
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: put coyote p it should scare off the have Alina.

607
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: But it didn't work. It actually made the problem worse

608
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: because apparently the have Alina went bananas for the coyote peepee.

609
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: The like one of the golf course managers who tried this,

610
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: like commented that it was like putting bacon bits on

611
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: their salad, Like they went nuts for the coyote peepee,

612
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: which is weird, Like they shouldn't.

613
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: Use it because of the the attacking on site thing,

614
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: Like were they or why would it do that.

615
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: That's a really good question. That's actually what you're saying

616
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: is like that could be a theory, right, Like they

617
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: smell the coyote peepee, they're enraged, they see no coyote,

618
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: and so they just go ham on the golf course itself.

619
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: Another theory that I haven't and none of this is

620
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: this is just like from my butt, because I couldn't

621
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: find any actual explanation for this, is that like in

622
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: a drought where they would encroach on a golf court,

623
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: maybe the smell of a coyote is actually attractive to

624
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: them because they're like, hey, if a coyote is here,

625
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: that means there's stuff around, like maybe there's a carcass,

626
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: maybe there's more abundance here. So if they smell coyote peepe,

627
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: they're like, great, this means that we're in business. There's

628
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: things to be had around here.

629
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: I don't know when I smell like a weird like

630
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: a like a a food truck that I don't like,

631
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 2: but I can tell that there must be other food

632
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: trucks nearby.

633
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: Exactly. It's like you smell that weird smell that comes

634
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: out of a subway sandwiches placed, you know what I'm

635
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: talking about like every subway has that weird smell and

636
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: you're like, well, the smell is bad, but I could

637
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: at least get some potato chips from there.

638
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah, it's they're pumping the sort of like sandwich like,

639
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 2: uh like from a hospital type smell. And that does

640
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: mean that there's some prepackaged cookies in there.

641
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: Right exactly exactly what is what even is that smell?

642
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: It freaks me out because it's at every subways and

643
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: it's not another sistent that.

644
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: It feels like and I and I've I've heard this.

645
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's fully true that Disneyland pumps cinnamon.

646
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: In the air and smell Yeah.

647
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like it's it's like childlike, yeah, psychologically

648
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: the subway smell that they're pumping, because it seems intentional.

649
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: If every single subway smells like that, they have to

650
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: be bottling it somewhere.

651
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: But it's not good, so is it. Maybe it's some

652
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: kind of like skunk pheromone that makes you hungry where.

653
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: We're like, we gotta have that weird turkey.

654
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: I like turkey that squeaks between my teeth and that's

655
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: why I get subway gross. So yeah, they love the

656
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: coyote piss, so that didn't work. Now golf courses are

657
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: trying to use chili oil to deter the Hailina, which

658
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: seems to work. And I really hope that Havevelina develop

659
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: a taste for chili oil for like spicy food and

660
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: then like they're like, actually this is great. Now my

661
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: salad of grass and grubs is spicy and delicious.

662
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just giving them dressing, right, this could backfire.

663
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: Right, just put a little bit of balsamic on there. Yeah.

664
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, in summary, I am fully on team Hovelinas

665
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: as well. They were their first golf courses. When you

666
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: put them in the wrong habitats, they're not good for

667
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: the environment. They drink up a huge amount of water.

668
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: And if this were a Disney movie, I think it

669
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: would be very clear which side to be on. Right,

670
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: the Hovelinas would be animated, and the antagonist is always

671
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: an evil golf club, a land developer.

672
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: Right, it'll be a mean golf club named Jerry.

673
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: And Jerry's Evil Golf.

674
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, And then they'll learn some kind of lesson

675
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: and like the main character is like this Havevelina girl

676
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: who's like really quirky and kind of clumsy, but she's hot.

677
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: Oh she's gone, and she's gotta be hot.

678
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: We got tickets somehow, Yeah, gotta make got you know what,

679
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: Like the people come, they don't come just to see hovelina.

680
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: They come to see hot havevelina. But yeah. So golf

681
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: courses are also often private. They use huge areas that

682
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: could be like a public park or public space, but no,

683
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: they're like a private golf course, which The Seven Canyons

684
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: Golf Club is open only to members who pay twenty

685
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: five to fifty thousand dollars for initiation. That's the initiation fee,

686
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: and then no, and it's another ten to fifteen thousand

687
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: dollars in annual dues.

688
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: So oh my, how what do you what? Where's the money? What?

689
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: What do you need that much money for? I feel

690
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: like at this point they're just trying to weed out

691
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: the semi rich people who might join.

692
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: They're like, I mean that's why, I mean, that's why, right,

693
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's it's it's a club for like, hey, like,

694
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: do you have the morals such that you would spend

695
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: this amount of money to join a snooty golf club

696
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: in the middle of a semi arid region and then

697
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: get mad at havelina.

698
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: Uh I, oh yeah, that's that's so bad.

699
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: I can't relate to these people.

700
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: Also, I don't have it. I mean, maybe I'll win

701
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: the lottery and then my brain chemistry will completely change

702
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 2: and I won't want to associate with anybody making less

703
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: than forty billion dollars a second.

704
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean that that would happen to all

705
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: of us. As soon as you get enough money, you're

706
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: suddenly like, yeall drop fifty grand on a private golf

707
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that smells like coyote pepe because like we

708
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: keep sprinkling coyote piss around the golf course to keep

709
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: the cavlina off.

710
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: Be very funny if coyote peepe becomes like a wealth signifier, right,

711
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: if you're wealthy, just hang out. It's a sign that

712
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: you hang out around golf courses.

713
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: Right, Like, oh, to golf peepee, and people are gonna

714
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: like like buy golf peepe, sorry, golf peepee. They're gonna

715
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: buy coyote pepe to make it seem like they're a

716
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: member of an expensive golf club.

717
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: But you're gonna there's gonna be knockoffs and that's not

718
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: gonna be real coyote p There's gonna be people in

719
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: the in the upper middle class. We're wearing like porcupine

720
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: pe to try and still like them, but it's not

721
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: the same, And real rich people can smell the difference, right.

722
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: I hate when they can smell the difference, like smell

723
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: they're like, Oh, that's that's a that's a koy wolf pepe.

724
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: That's not the same. Ah. So yeah. Another reason I

725
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: think the Havelina are perfectly justified is that people can

726
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: legally hunt Havevelina, and I think it's fair that Havevelena

727
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: hunt golfers, Like you can't have a You can't just

728
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: like say like, yeah, you can hunt Havevelena. And I'll

729
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: be like, hey, maybe the Havelina want to hunt some golfers.

730
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe, I mean, maybe they know a lot

731
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: about Arizona state law. Maybe if that law is repealed,

732
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: they'll back off.

733
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, you know what you gotta You gotta give

734
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: a little to the Havelina if you expect them to

735
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: leave our golf courses alone.

736
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe this is kind of a mafia shakedown.

737
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: Yes, look, nice golf course you got here. Would be

738
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: a shame if we tore it up, even though you

739
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: covered in coyote peepee.

740
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: Someone munched on this thing.

741
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do. I do think they would be

742
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: a good gangsters because of again the heels, the Louis vouton.

743
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah.

744
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're intimidating, They're sharp, very much.

745
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: Have Alena have been photographed giving raccoons rides on their backs.

746
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: So okay, okay, I love it.

747
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't have any other information. That's it. There have

748
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: been a photograph, that's it. There's been no you don't

749
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: know why or or I'm sorry, this is a learning podcast, but.

750
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: You've just dropped something major on me. And now I'm

751
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: gonna think about it for weeks.

752
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: I know, like, I don't have all the answers. I

753
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: can only tell you what I know, and I'm not

754
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: gonna make anything up. So the facts on the ground

755
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 1: is that there have been at least one photographs of

756
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: a raccoon riding on a Havevelna and some anecdotal stories

757
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: people tell about. Yes, I've also seen a raccoon get

758
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: on top of a have Alina to try to eat

759
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: food out of some kind of bird feeder. So this

760
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: is a thing that might be happen.

761
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: This is a thing that might be happening. This is huge, right.

762
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: I love when animals are friends. It just there's just

763
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: such a mystery. How did they do it, how do

764
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: they communicate? What do they have to talk about?

765
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think like it seems

766
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: like the raccoon and the hovelina are would be natural allies,

767
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: just in terms of tearing through things and going the

768
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: sort of vibe.

769
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 2: And like Internet support Internet cloud, they both like people

770
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: love raccoons online as well.

771
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, have you seen that video of the guy

772
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: feeding in a huge tub full of hot dogs to raccoons?

773
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I like him. I also I follow this TikTok

774
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: account that called raccoon Ravine and they post videos. They

775
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: go live every single night feeding wild raccoons. Yeah, they

776
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: just flock to the porch and there's dozens of up.

777
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like, in terms of uh sort of

778
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: animal welfare, I would cush against feeding raccoons hot dogs.

779
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good thing to do. However,

780
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie and say

781
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy the video of this man reaching his

782
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: hand into a slimy bucket of hot dogs and handing

783
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: them out to a bunch of raccoons.

784
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't watch, We didn't. We didn't get the

785
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: hot dog.

786
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: I didn't. That's not on us.

787
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's only so much.

788
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm not you know, it's true, maybe that I

789
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: inadvertently fund the hot dog feeding by watching the YouTube video,

790
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: But there's no ethical consumption in capitalism. So I'm gonna

791
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let myself have that one.

792
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we deserve something nice every once.

793
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: In a while, exactly. So we're gonna take a quick

794
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: break and when we get back, we're gonna talk about

795
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: some more animals that are reclaiming golf courses as well

796
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: as an apossum. It could be the next big football

797
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: player if only the coach would let them. We'll bear

798
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: it back. Okay, So I did want to say that

799
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: it's not just the havelina. As much as we love them,

800
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: Havevelinas aren't the only ones taken back the golf courses.

801
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: There are other animals that will try to reclaim the

802
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 1: golf course. Like everywhere basically put a golf course where

803
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: there are also animals, which is most places. Native animals

804
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: will try to make use of it, because what else

805
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: are they supposed to do? Put a golf course there?

806
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: You put a golf course that if you give a

807
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: mouse a cook, if you leave a cookie out for

808
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: the mouse, it's gonna take it right. Like that book.

809
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: It's like that book. If you give a mouse a

810
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: golf course, you can't use coyote pep on it. It's

811
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: not going to work.

812
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: And I love that book and I'm going to read

813
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: it to my kids someday.

814
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: I was confused by it as a child, but I

815
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: get it now in retrospect that all makes sense. Yes.

816
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 1: So some notable golf course activists are the bull sharks

817
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: of Brisbane, Australia. Bull sharks reclaimed a water hazard as

818
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: their personal pool. You might wonder how bull sharks got

819
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: into a golf course. Well, a flood in nineteen ninety

820
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: six swept a group of bull sharks into the Carbrook

821
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: golf Club. So yes, and that's wild. Six sharks found

822
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: themselves in one of the golf cours's water hazards and

823
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: ended up just living there. So they just got to

824
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: stay to say, I mean, what are you gonna do?

825
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: Like?

826
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: You can't. I don't think you can kill the bull sharks, right,

827
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: I think they're protected.

828
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: I guess that does become like a money issue of like, Okay,

829
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: are we gonna get a shark bulldozer to like picket?

830
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: Are we gonna pay a shark catcher?

831
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: Right?

832
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: Call a boat?

833
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: Who do you know? How do you like? Yeah, it's like, oh,

834
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: you know, we're just gonna airlift each shark back over there.

835
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: Like no, I don't know, I don't know how you

836
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: relocate once the sharks are in there. It's like it's

837
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 1: a dickens of a time trying to get them out.

838
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, so they lived there for another seventeen years,

839
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: eating the fish that the golf course stocked and surviving

840
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: the low salinity of the artificial lake like they were.

841
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: They seem to be fine for like almost two decades.

842
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: That's great. And then did the generation just kind of

843
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 2: die off?

844
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I don't think. I don't think they managed

845
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: to maintain a new sort of bull shark colony there.

846
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the fact they lived there for

847
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: like twenty years is it's pretty impressive.

848
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: Impressive.

849
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And also kangaroos off and over take golf

850
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: courses in Australia. Good for them.

851
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: I love that.

852
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, this Cucuosa Golf Club of South Africa is right

853
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: next to a wild life reserve and so frequently gets

854
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: the kinds of animals that would be in South Africa

855
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: on a wildlife reserve. So hyenas lions just kind of

856
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: like waltzing in. In twenty twenty two, a group of

857
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: lions and hyenas took over the third hole with a

858
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: massive giraffe carcass that they were fighting over. So you know.

859
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: That's wild. It's really showed. Okay, Like this is in

860
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: English class, I feel like you learn about the different

861
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: story archetypes where it's like man versus man, man versus self,

862
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: man versus nature. I think there's another category which is

863
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 2: nature versus golf course.

864
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: It's actually a whole thing, Yes, a whole genre.

865
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's untapped. I think we can get

866
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: into it.

867
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I mean it's it's the classic story of

868
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: a hyena who drags sort of a the liver of

869
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: a giraffe over to a golf hole and plops it

870
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: in and gets par or birdie. I'm what's golf?

871
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: It's classic. They get a yeah, birdie a par I

872
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: played a lot of we golf. I wasn't too bad

873
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: at that.

874
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Oh nice, there's album one too. Hole in one. That's

875
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: that's golf.

876
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 2: I think that's the big money word we've been serving.

877
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: That's the golf. A hole in one, A liver and

878
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: one a liver a giraffe liver in one. Uh, there's

879
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: the joke we did manage to. We clawed our way

880
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: to kicking and screaming. Yeah. So plenty of animals do

881
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: like to take over golf courses, and all the power

882
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: to them. But before we move on, I definitely wanted

883
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: to talk about another animal internet celebrity gripping the nation.

884
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: It's an apossum who was desperate, desperate to toss around

885
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: the old pigskin, but the man didn't let him do it.

886
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: An anonymous apossum ran across Texas Texas Texas Tech University's

887
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: football field during a game against the Red Raiders. He

888
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: was unjustly detained and grappled with a restraining pole and

889
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: dragged off the field. Kylie, have you seen the story

890
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: of this intrepid apossum?

891
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: I have, and I am once again joining the side

892
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: of the animals against, yes, against organized sports. I loved

893
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: the video of this apossum being dragged off it. Like,

894
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: I've never seen someone want something more than that. Possum

895
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: wanted to be on that field.

896
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: He wants to play. Uh, he wants coach to put

897
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: him in and he's a little bit like and they

898
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: won't give him a chance. No, Like, this isn't how

899
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: Rudy ended.

900
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: Rudy the movie.

901
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a football movie, right.

902
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 2: Oh, that sounds like it was it.

903
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: Called Notre Dame or something. What's the movie? It's Sean

904
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: Actually no, it's Sean Hobbit, isn't it. Huh Uh Sean Aston.

905
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: He plays a football guy and they put him in

906
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: the game. Anyways, and this would happen.

907
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: And you know what, if we have airbud why not?

908
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: Why not this?

909
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: It's a classic legal loophole of there's nothing in the

910
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: football rules that says an apossum shouldn't play football, and

911
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: so you do, actually legally, under punishment of prison time,

912
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: let the apossum play.

913
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you are I'm sorry. If you are a sport,

914
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: you need to make it very clear in your rules

915
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: which animals cannot play. Right until you do that, this

916
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: is just gonna keep happening.

917
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: You have to name every single animal. Yeah, and some

918
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: of them are tiny, like you might even know they're playing.

919
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: They might be out there.

920
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: Fromes covering this field. They are making it plays and

921
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 2: you have no idea.

922
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: Right there may be a Tartar grade on that ball

923
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: technically his touchdowns, so you never know. Yeah, but yeah,

924
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: that that apostum was dragged literally kicking and screaming and

925
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: clywing at the ground, and everybody loved him. Everybody wanted

926
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 1: him to be left alone, to be allowed to play

927
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: the game. And yeah, I think he should have been

928
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: put in because the Red Raiders won against the home team,

929
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: So if they just let him play, you know, maybe

930
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: things would have been different.

931
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they he wanted to you know, he's probably

932
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 2: been on the sideline spying on this for a long

933
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: time and and he wanted to help. I felt him.

934
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: I feel like your kindred spirits because you got sidelined

935
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: from your your golf turning attorney, your golf tourney.

936
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: It's true. It's just another list of injustices that have

937
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: that have been that have been committed against underdogs.

938
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: Right under possums. So I did see on your Twitter

939
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: that you wanted to know what it sounded like. So

940
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I do not have uh, I do not

941
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: have the sound to the video of this the pot

942
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: that was on the football field. I don't even know

943
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: if that audio exists. If it does, send it to me,

944
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: it's important, but I do have to hear it. Yeah,

945
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: I do have audio of what an angry a possum

946
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: sounds like. So you could kind of extrapolate this. So

947
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: here is what a mad possum sounds like.

948
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: Oh, it sounds more like a passive aggressive possum.

949
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: He's maybe a little sweepy, like he might be a

950
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: little sweepy but still upset a little like grumble grumble.

951
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: Why didn't you check the group.

952
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: Text right exactly? I feel like, so this one it's

953
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: you know, that's a fair point. I feel like that

954
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: is the sound of an a passively angry possum. I

955
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: think I do also have a sound of a little

956
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: more a little more intense anger. There you go, So

957
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: that to me is a little more but maybe even

958
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: pump that up. I feel like the sound of this

959
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: football possible he wanted to play football so.

960
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: Bad, Like imagine that like tripled, because the way this

961
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: mouth is positioned like that can be nothing but a scream.

962
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is a it's you know what, like I

963
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: feel like this is going to be an iconic photo

964
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: of American resistance, you know, the spirit of like rebellion.

965
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: Look at him.

966
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's He's a sports hero of our time,

967
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: and I think we he deserves to be treated.

968
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: As such exactly. I mean it's like, I don't know,

969
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: I think that if the rules say that an apossum

970
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: can't play football, then what are we even doing? Like

971
00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: why even have the sport?

972
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: Why even have the sport if you're gonna if you're

973
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: gonna exclude.

974
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: People exactly or possums. So uh that is that. Godspeed

975
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: a little possum. I really hope, uh everything goes well

976
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: for you. And uh, before we go, we've got to

977
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: play a little game. It's called Guess Who's squawking? The

978
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: Mystery Animal Sound Game. Every week I play Mystery Animal

979
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: sound in you the listener, and you the guests, try

980
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: to guess who it is. It can be any animal

981
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: in the world. Uh. Last week's mystery animal sound hint

982
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: was this this baby has one of the longest snoops,

983
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: but definitely don't boop. Oh do you hear that?

984
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 2: I do Okay, and you said, and the clue.

985
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: Was, and the clue was, this baby has one of

986
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: the longest snoots, but definitely don't boop.

987
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: But don't boom. Okay, I feel like it's not an

988
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 2: ant eater, but it's like adjacent to an ant eater.

989
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: Like I feel like I heard that anteaters are actually

990
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: kind of mean, but but maybe I'm wrong. You know what,

991
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: I'll lock in anteater. Let's see.

992
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean they're adjacent to ant eaters in that they

993
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: do both have long snoots. But this is actually a reptile.

994
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: This is a garrial.

995
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

996
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: This is a crocodillion crocodilian. Crocodilion, a crocodile. It is

997
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: a garial. Congratulations to Auntie Bee, Jack M and kat S.

998
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: So I'll guess correctly. This is a baby GARYL.

999
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: So uh.

1000
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: I do encourage you to google baby Gariel. It's bell

1001
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: g H A R I A L. And then you

1002
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: put baby in front of it and then just like,

1003
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: look at that little needlenose filler.

1004
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: Oh my, oh, oh my gosh, she's a paraplyers.

1005
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Plyers. If Plyers was an animal, this would

1006
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: be it. Uh. They are crocodiles found in rivers in

1007
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: India with extremely long and thin snouts, with one hundred

1008
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: and ten teeth, Lots of teeth.

1009
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: It's a lot.

1010
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: It's so many teeth. I get tired flossing my teeth.

1011
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: I know these these thirty or thirty two many babies,

1012
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: however many I don't.

1013
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: It's too many, too many to keep too many. I'm

1014
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with how many teeth we have? Have you ever seen? Okay,

1015
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: now I'm going to rephrase the question that doesn't make

1016
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: me sound like a murderer, because I was gonna say,

1017
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: have you ever seen like a child's skull? That's not

1018
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: what I mean. Have you ever seen like the uh

1019
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: sort of like how an X ray of a tackle

1020
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: where they have all the baby teeth above the real

1021
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: uh or the baby teeth are below, but then the

1022
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: real teeth are up there, and then they just have

1023
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: their faces so full of teeth.

1024
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: It's it's horrifying just looking at that makes it feel

1025
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: like we're sharks, Like right, it doesn't look.

1026
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: Natural exactly, and so like, hey, you know what, in

1027
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: a certain way, aren't we the garials? Uh? When we're children?

1028
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: Are we all?

1029
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: So?

1030
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a lot of teeth, and they can

1031
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: get quite big, so they look deceptively small. I think

1032
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: because their snout is so narrow it makes them look

1033
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: like they're kind of like the nerd version of a crocodile,

1034
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: so they must be kind of puny. They're actually big.

1035
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: They can be from around eight feet to almost twenty

1036
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: feet long, so that's a half to six meters us.

1037
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: Again looking like this this big. Yeah, tiny tiny.

1038
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: I feel like you just think everything is tiny.

1039
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: I think I do. I think because I'm big and

1040
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: my computer screen is small, right, Like, well, these guys

1041
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: are miniscule.

1042
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: I get really confused when people are far away because

1043
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, you're really tiny, And then they get.

1044
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: Close, when someone standing by the horizon right short, And

1045
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: then when they're next to.

1046
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: You, they're like, wait, why did you get so big?

1047
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't like this. You were small and now you're

1048
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: big and stay small please. Uh So, yeah, these ones

1049
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: are pretty big. Males can be bulkier than the female's.

1050
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: Males also develop a bulbous protrusion on the tip of

1051
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: their nose that they use as a resonance chamber for

1052
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: mating calls. It's shaped like a piece of pottery pottery

1053
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: known as a gara. That's the name garial. So that's

1054
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: how they got their name. A weird They got a

1055
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: weird lump on their nose that the males use to

1056
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: make sexy squonks.

1057
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 2: And it is a it's a sexy lump, it is.

1058
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: It's you know, lumps and bumps are sexy unless they're malignant.

1059
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: Get them checked out, folks.

1060
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 2: Yep.

1061
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: So, while these are big, they are typically harmless to

1062
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: humans because their long, narrow snouts are optimized for catching fish,

1063
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: not larger prey. They do not view humans as prey.

1064
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: They typically catch and swallow their fish whole. Sometimes they

1065
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: will swallow stones or rocks to help crush the food

1066
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: in their stomachs to age and aid in digestion, this

1067
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: habit which other animals do as well. In this context,

1068
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: the stone is called a gastrolith, like a Tommy stone.

1069
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: You can call it a Tommy stone, a.

1070
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: Tommy stone of course.

1071
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. They've even apparently swallowed jewelry, so you know that's

1072
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: like Tommy stones that are classy. Yeah.

1073
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 2: And man, maybe that's where the Titanic thing went at

1074
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: the end.

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01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: I wish you know what that would have been so

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01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: sick if at the end of Titanic she throws it

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Speaker 1: in the ocean and then a shark comes up and

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Speaker 1: eats it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want a pair of teeth emerging from

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01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: the water and lamping down on it.

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Speaker 1: Had like I would even be fine with, like, I

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01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: don't know, a swordfish, like hooking it on. It's new,

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01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: you know something. Yeah, some playfulness there.

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01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: You've done a whole movie on the water and I

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01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: haven't even seen a single fish.

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01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are there no fish in I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think I've I've I've only watched the movie an

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01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: hour at a time when I was a kid, and

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01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: it would play on like TNT or something. It'd be

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01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: like forty seven commercial breaks, and so I'd never get

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Speaker 2: through it.

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01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: But I'm super honest with you too.

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01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 2: I would imagine that the rich people probably ate lobster

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Speaker 2: at some point.

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Speaker 1: That's not a fish though, that's a that's true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I remember there being birds. I don't remember a

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01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: single fish, which is weird because I feel like David

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01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: Cameron has been in the water a lot, so uh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had to see a lot of fish when he

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01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: was descending down to the marriages trench exactly. So that's weird.

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01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: I feel sort of like my mind is blown that

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Speaker 1: there's not enough fish in the Titanic. But yeah, so garials.

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01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: There are a lot of fish when it comes to gariles,

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01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: given that they eat them a lot and their snoots

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01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: are perfect for catching fish. Uh, And yeah, I mean,

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01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, they're not a threat to us. Sadly, humans

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01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: are a threat to gariles because of you know, sort

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01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: of the the same old, same old habitat destruction, fishing, pollution,

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01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: et cetera. So garial populations are critically endangered, which sucks

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Speaker 1: because like, again, they're the needlenosed pliers of the animal kingdom.

1111
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: And I feel like needlenose pliers are those things where

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01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: I constantly need them and I feel like, oh, you

1113
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and I never have them, and

1114
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: I never have them, and I'm like, I thought I

1115
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: bought them because of the lagat safety.

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01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: And I keep buying them over and over and over again.

1117
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: Where do they go?

1118
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 2: Never find them? Where do they there's someone is they're

1119
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: they're deep in the couch cushions of saving. Yeah, I

1120
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: feel like maybe it's habitat destruction of the needle nose pliers. Uh,

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01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean it's it's a metaphor, right, Like,

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01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: we can't find our needlenose pliers and the guriles are

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01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: critically endangered.

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01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:22,959
Speaker 1: Who's to say who suffers more?

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01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: Who's to say if the needlenose pliers rustling about in

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01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,439
Speaker 2: the bottom of our toolboxes? Yeah, for these live animals.

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01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone has a chaos drawer for the needle nose pliers.

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01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: But then they're never there, and then you.

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01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 2: Find a garyle in there, and it's like, I wasn't looking.

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01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: That's where the guryles. That's where the garyles are. They're

1131
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: in the junk drawer. Anyways, we gotta save them there

1132
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: I like them, and give the golf courses to the havevelinas. Anyways,

1133
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: onto this week's mystery animal sound. The hint is this,

1134
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: this animal has a more famous catchphrase, but it has

1135
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: plenty of other things to say. That's not it, sir?

1136
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: All right, Kaylee, who do you think that is?

1137
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, well, I I got caught up in

1138
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: the famous animal catchphrases thing, and I'm like, oh, maybe

1139
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 2: Mickey mouse and and it's a mouse, but I can't

1140
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: even remember what Mickey mouse.

1141
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: Wait, what is Micky. I don't think he.

1142
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 2: Did.

1143
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: That's okay, you're blowing up like, oh gosh, but I

1144
01:05:59,400 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: think that.

1145
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: I don't like that's a catchphrase.

1146
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: I thought that was goofy.

1147
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: I thought googley. Goofy says gosh, he says, oh, gorsh.

1148
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: Minnie says, oh, says some variation of.

1149
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, What the hell is Mickey's catchphrase? Uh so

1150
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: there's okay, let me get this straight. There's no that's

1151
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: all folks.

1152
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: No, that's tweeting bird. Wait, it's not even a tweetybird.

1153
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: No, that's a porky pig.

1154
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, well that that might make me fresh

1155
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: out of animal slogans.

1156
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: And it's not.

1157
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: It sounds kind of birdie, it sounds kind of twittery.

1158
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: It sounds a little like like it sounds like a

1159
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: bunch of them or is it just one?

1160
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: There could be more than one. Okay, I give you that.

1161
01:06:49,800 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay. Flamingus, Oh my gosh, gosh, I I'm stop.

1162
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: It's a flamingo's catchphrase.

1163
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: Ah, come on over your guys, come my gown. It's charty.

1164
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know when they.

1165
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: Say that, I remember that.

1166
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: It's the famous the flamingo catchphrase a come on over here.

1167
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: Guys, Come on over here, guys.

1168
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: Well, we will find out next week what this mister

1169
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 1: anill sound is. If you out there think you know

1170
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: what this is, if you think it's a flamingo going

1171
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: come on over here, guys, write to me at Creature

1172
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: featurepot at gmail dot com. You can also write to

1173
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: me your questions because next week is going to be

1174
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: a listener Questions episode. I might answer this question in

1175
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: the next next week episode of Creature Features. Anyways, it'll

1176
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: all make sense at a certain point in the future.

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01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

1178
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: The point is, write to me, send me pictures of

1179
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: your pets. Uh, send me pictures of have Alina whatever.

1180
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: And and Kylie, thank you so much for joining us today.

1181
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: It is an absolute pleasure to have you on. Where

1182
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: can people find you?

1183
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I I I loved,

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Speaker 2: I loved, I loved it all, and I love my

1185
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: Hovelina's I've tea Pavelina forever. I am on Instagram and

1186
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: TikTok at Dead Eye breakemen. I'm still technically on Twitter,

1187
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 2: but I don't I don't know what's going on there.

1188
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: And then I have a podcast.

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01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: It's an improvised Hollywood round table podcast called Artists on

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01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 2: Artists on Artists on Artists.

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01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: It's a mouthful how many artists it is?

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01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: Four artists, four artists.

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01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for to type in that exactly, or else you

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01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: get a different podcast that is messed up.

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01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 2: It's a rival podcast and it's Oh man, they're eating

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01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: us alive.

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01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: There's three artists, the three the three artists are really good.

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Speaker 1: The five artists.

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Speaker 2: Eh, yeah, yeah they do.

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01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: And I get it. Yeah, you know what, get it?

1201
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: Freeze a christ Freeze. It's a group and five's a crowd.

1202
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Come on over here, guys.

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01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: That's go on over here, God, come on over here, guys.

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