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Speaker 1: So he'll be out there today.

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Speaker 2: It'd be good to see him.

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Speaker 1: At this point, all right, he's ready to roll. Good

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Speaker 1: to get him out there and get some get some

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Speaker 2: Practice, who's going to be kicking for you this week?

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Speaker 3: Is it going to be Ben?

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Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, right now, Ben, Ben'll be'll be rolling today.

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Speaker 3: You guys exploring bringing someone in?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the discussions that we got to

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Speaker 4: Mike, you've you've been around for this game a long time.

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Speaker 4: I mean to go through you have that he would

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Speaker 4: be your eighth kicker or if anyone that hasn't cared

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Speaker 4: for since the start of two years ago. Is it

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Speaker 4: as a coach, how do you look at that? How

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Speaker 4: do you describe it? Bad luck? Is it bad planning?

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Speaker 4: How do you see?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great opppportunity for for Ben, for

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Speaker 1: It's opportunity for him we've we've dealt with injuries, and

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Speaker 1: injuries happened all across the league, so there's you know,

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Speaker 1: there's no excuses to that. Like it happens at every position, quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: For us going.

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Speaker 1: Jamie will get some work today. Yeah, we'll get some

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Speaker 3: And Gunnard did he clear?

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Speaker 1: He cleared? Yes, he did.

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Speaker 2: We came on obviously. Is there any change as far

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Speaker 1: No change yet. He's still he's still he's still working hard.

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Speaker 1: So at some point we'll make a decision. But right

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, Will that come before this upcoming game or.

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Speaker 1: We're just stayed by day right now? Like there's no

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Speaker 5: There is a strength issue or is it the ability

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Speaker 5: point are you guys at with what he needs to

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get in too much of the

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Speaker 3: Later in a season like this, when the team's out,

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Speaker 4: Mike. I know, facing Brian Flora's defense is a challenge

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely. I think that's just everyone being on the

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Speaker 6: When the commanders were preparing for you guys and Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something we emphasize every single week. And Jackson

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Speaker 6: With all that emphasis and everything. And you know, there's

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Speaker 6: You're around quarterbacks. I mean, is it all too much?

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily listen to the narratives out there. I

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Speaker 6: You sense any confusion or trepidation or hesitation in him.

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Speaker 6: You know, you talk all the time with him about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't sense that. I sense a really aggressive

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Speaker 5: Ask you, because reality is they've called now four times

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think everyone everyone, not just the

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Speaker 1: And that's things that we're stressing though. Whether it's fundamentals right,

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Speaker 5: watching the film, what do you see from him now?

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed my time with him and working with

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Speaker 1: getting a ball to those playmakers. He's operating fast and aggressive.

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Speaker 1: He's got a unique personality, like it. Not every I

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