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Speaker 1: Kelly Kirby Kelly, Are you certified in grief therapy?
Speaker 2: Is my question?
Speaker 3: I actually am, so I'm ready to lead you through this.
Speaker 2: Are you actually yes?
Speaker 3: I actually I am?
Speaker 2: But okay, it was.
Speaker 1: Like real like it, like you've actually found it. It
Speaker 1: sounded like very certain about that, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure you really are. Why are we trying to
Speaker 1: find out about grief therapy? Well, yes, we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about lots of stuff and things. There might be
Speaker 1: many that they're gonna need some grief therapy after Minoa Day,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to, but we are going to start the.
Speaker 2: Show off with really the most devastating news for this show.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, it is the most devastating news for
Speaker 1: this show as a whole, for everybody here collectively, Corby
Speaker 1: and Carroll last night with a wide swing, because he
Speaker 1: does have a very far back, looped one handed swing
Speaker 1: on the follow through. It's very aggressive, it's crazy batspeed.
Speaker 1: It's how he generates a lot of the power.
Speaker 2: Went back.
Speaker 1: The arm just kind of went, you know, it didn't pop,
Speaker 1: but it had like a natural popping motion going forward,
Speaker 1: and he immediately curled over, grabbed the arm and had
Speaker 1: to be sent out. I looked at that thing and
Speaker 1: I went, all right, it's football season.
Speaker 2: Like, what am I supposed to do here? I don't
Speaker 2: know what I'm supposed to do, though.
Speaker 1: Kelly, there were encouraging things from Tory Leavello after that.
Speaker 1: Apparently structurally everything was okay. That he walked out and
Speaker 1: hung out in the dugout after and they're performing an
Speaker 1: MRI probably as we are doing this show, I fully
Speaker 1: expect someone to break something in here. But Kelly, as
Speaker 1: the sign says behind me, I'm a little dead inside.
Speaker 2: Give me good news, give me something.
Speaker 3: Give you something. Well, the something is this. It's his shoulder.
Speaker 3: So I'm still thinking that maybe he could Pincherron and
Speaker 3: steal all the bases I was counting on him for.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I otherwise, I don't have much until the
Speaker 3: MRI comes back. I think that I'm hoping. My biggest
Speaker 3: problem is it's the same shoulder that he had the
Speaker 3: issue with before, and so that makes me a little
Speaker 3: bit more nervous than anything else. But that could also
Speaker 3: mean he was more like freaked out about it, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like if you're used to that
Speaker 3: being painful, but these are That's all I've got for you, wilsh.
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, that didn't really make me feel better.
Speaker 3: What't long as I'm doing my job, we're gonna we're
Speaker 3: gonna work on the.
Speaker 1: Grief counting a little bit more here, we'll work through it.
Speaker 1: As you said, he had a torn labrum a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. You are right about one thing. He's
Speaker 1: super in tuned to that shoulder because what happened, like
Speaker 1: whatever it was like a week ago, was he just
Speaker 1: felt something weird and he immediately.
Speaker 2: Took himself out. So he is very very aware of
Speaker 2: what's going on.
Speaker 1: This did not look like that, and we're just going
Speaker 1: to have to wait through. Maybe a best case scenario
Speaker 1: is this is he's gonna, unfortunately have to probably miss
Speaker 1: the All Star Game. This is his hometown, He's probably
Speaker 1: not gonna play. Maybe it's a short iel stint. The
Speaker 1: worst case scenario is we've lost him for the year
Speaker 1: and I will blame Joe for everything. This is actually
Speaker 1: Joe's fault. By the way, every show like, oh we
Speaker 1: told you, no, Corby K, we told you, and then
Speaker 1: he leaves. He leaves the show for one, it took
Speaker 1: a vacation.
Speaker 2: Everybody, he leaves the show and everything is falling apart.
Speaker 3: Yes, this is true, and he left us for a
Speaker 3: wrestling which is fine but right, but you know, I'm like,
Speaker 3: we have a tourn to where we have a shoulder
Speaker 3: situation over here. I don't know what you're gonna see
Speaker 3: to night, but yes, this is entirely his fault. The
Speaker 3: victory lapse. I think we were all taking about Carol
Speaker 3: you most of all. It was like, this is great,
Speaker 3: and we made it to the All Star I thought
Speaker 3: we made it to the All Star break. I was like, wow,
Speaker 3: he's really stellar, and then boom, and of course in
Speaker 3: our other chat, the only thing Joe could say was
Speaker 3: that he wished he'd hedged with Ellie likesive.
Speaker 2: It is what I woke up to today. I woke
Speaker 2: I was gonna pull it up here, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I don't want to share the full chat.
Speaker 1: I literally woke up to Joe not being on the
Speaker 1: show and only saying this, I should have hedged my
Speaker 1: bet with Ellie, and I was just like, I hope
Speaker 1: you get supplexed tonight. I hope Joe gets supplexed and
Speaker 1: then like a DDT or something. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: this though. On that note, though, if let's just say
Speaker 1: the hypothetical worst happens, can Corbyn Carrol still take down
Speaker 1: that Rookie of the Year award?
Speaker 2: Or with the full.
Speaker 1: Half season you know coming up, Ellie de la Cruz
Speaker 1: Uri Perez probably the two biggest. Do you think they're
Speaker 1: going to overtake Corbyn? I mean, can think about what
Speaker 1: Corbyn's done the projections I looked about a week ago,
Speaker 1: the projections rest of season projections on the bat X
Speaker 1: had Ellie essentially doing what court his projections got him
Speaker 1: to where Corbyn Carroll is now eighteen homers twenty six
Speaker 1: twenty seven sole in bases something like that, and that's
Speaker 1: where he would be. So if Ellie finished in relative
Speaker 1: range of Corbyn and he's out for the year and
Speaker 1: Uri gets kind of shut down, can Corbyn still win
Speaker 1: that award?
Speaker 3: So we got two things working against you. One, recency
Speaker 3: bias will be a big problem. So of course it's
Speaker 3: kind of like he's Elle'll be good on the second
Speaker 3: halfh If Corbyn's not there at all, then pretty soon
Speaker 3: it's going to be like, oh, well, what did Carol do?
Speaker 3: We don't really even remember. And Two, if the Reds
Speaker 3: continue kind of doing what they're doing and they sneak
Speaker 3: into the playoffs, I don't think Carol's got a chance.
Speaker 1: This is another good one right here from Lee is
Speaker 1: Francisco Alvarez.
Speaker 2: The only problem with Francisco.
Speaker 1: Alvarez he does lead to all catchers in baseball and homers,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. But he's hitting like two twenty and
Speaker 1: unless he I mean, I suppose if he hits thirty
Speaker 1: five homers that will be hard to do and if
Speaker 1: he can raise his average, but if he's two twenty,
Speaker 1: that stuff. But you're right, if the Reds get into
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Ellie probably runs away with that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You probably need to be positive. The Diamondbacks were trying
Speaker 1: to be positive.
Speaker 2: We will get results here.
Speaker 1: Soon and hopefully, you know, if it's good news, hopefully
Speaker 1: it happens in the next ten minutes. If it's bad news,
Speaker 1: hopefully let's move their time is hopefully happens in about
Speaker 1: twenty two minutes as soon as this show is over.
Speaker 1: Because I'm not looking to get fired from Fantasy Pros
Speaker 1: today and.
Speaker 3: I'm not looking to watch you cry.
Speaker 2: So okay, well, I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Speaking of crying, there might be some crying because today
Speaker 1: is Monah Day. Alec Mono returns. Celebrate whichever side you celebrate.
Speaker 1: By the way, Alec Manoa coming off of a good
Speaker 1: double a performance. He went five, he struck out ten,
Speaker 1: but he walked three.
Speaker 2: He hit a batter.
Speaker 1: This all happened in the first couple of innings. He's
Speaker 1: going up against Detroit today and Kelly, the books are cowards.
Speaker 1: They are terrified. They didn't want me to take a
Speaker 1: second mortgage out responsibly.
Speaker 2: They didn't want me to go and.
Speaker 1: Find a loan shark in a shady part of Phoenix
Speaker 1: responsibly because all I was looking to do was bet
Speaker 1: two and a half over walks or anything, any single bet,
Speaker 1: but his stupid strikeouts none are available. Maybe you feel different.
Speaker 1: How are you celebrating and what do you see coming
Speaker 1: from Manoa day?
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I'm not starting him. I have
Speaker 3: him and I have him in a dynasty league, so
Speaker 3: I've had him forever there and I'm just gonna leave
Speaker 3: him sit, mostly because I don't trust the Tigers. They
Speaker 3: have screwed me over multiple times this year in betting,
Speaker 3: so I'm just out. But I was thinking about today
Speaker 3: where if they offered kind of an over four and
Speaker 3: a half strikeouts over three and a half walks, like
Speaker 3: little parlay, you know, a little grouping, I'm like, I'd
Speaker 3: take it because I think he'll strike out five, no problem.
Speaker 3: But man, that other half.
Speaker 1: What time does that game get down? Because now here's
Speaker 1: something I've seen happen a lot. Yeah, what time is it?
Speaker 3: Isn't it like six o'clock eastern or something?
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the possibility.
Speaker 1: Everyone be ready, maybe about an hour before they post something.
Speaker 1: They like to do that sometimes then responsibly take your
Speaker 1: life savings and put it against. Here's a game I
Speaker 1: think we should play, and maybe we can track this
Speaker 1: because someone already just did this. BUSIZI is a put
Speaker 1: Here's his line. Five innings, four hits, four walks, four runs,
Speaker 1: eight ks.
Speaker 2: This is amazing.
Speaker 1: Let's drop some Manoa lines in the chat and let's
Speaker 1: see who gets it right. So give me your Manoa
Speaker 1: line today, because you're not starting him, no way in
Speaker 1: hell I'm starting.
Speaker 2: I don't care if he no hits the Tigers today.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take any like ooh, I was wrong.
Speaker 1: You don't start him. You don't start him at any scenario.
Speaker 1: So give me your Manoa line today.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with like four and a third six strikeouts.
Speaker 3: I'm still thinking four walk I mean, I think it's
Speaker 3: just gonna be weird and ugly and he'll give up
Speaker 3: probably three runs and leave the bases loaded.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going I like that specific enough. That's very specific.
Speaker 1: By the way, his strikeout line on the books is
Speaker 1: four and a half and I.
Speaker 2: Don't think it's crazy juice, so five is probably on
Speaker 2: it here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with five earned runs, three and two thirds,
Speaker 1: five k's, four walks does that work.
Speaker 2: Did we get there? I think we got there.
Speaker 1: Here's a couple other lines here, of course, the Great
Speaker 1: Beef curtains four and four and one fourth of an inning.
Speaker 2: I don't think you can do that. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: p that.
Speaker 3: One's gonna walk a guy and leave before he gets
Speaker 3: to first?
Speaker 1: Is he gonna strike out a guy? Then the ball's
Speaker 1: gonna drop and then he's gonna have another out?
Speaker 2: I don't know? Is five k's, four walks, three earned runs? Okay,
Speaker 2: what are some others? See?
Speaker 1: Zach went three innings, pitched, forty five earned runs, four
Speaker 1: h and cries on them.
Speaker 2: All right now everyone's just being or just being really
Speaker 2: mean to him.
Speaker 1: So four seems to be the magic number here, everybody's
Speaker 1: fours four k's, four innings, two walks, tourn runs. Here
Speaker 1: is Angelo's three innings pitched, four wins and seven earned runs.
Speaker 2: Oh, four walks?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you guys doing today? I'm
Speaker 1: trying to see if anybody has a positive outcome?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: This one is, yeah, David, six innings, three walks, tour
Speaker 1: and runs.
Speaker 2: Seven k's is the lion beat the with the three
Speaker 2: point one four the pie of X plug is what's.
Speaker 1: On here, and let's see. Okay, here's one more we'll do.
Speaker 1: Brandon says, seven innings, seven k's, three walks, tour and runs.
Speaker 1: There you go, Razor got some in there. So let's
Speaker 1: try to track this. Someone not me, track this and see.
Speaker 2: Who gets it right.
Speaker 1: So we can give accolades to the person that got
Speaker 1: it right. But at the end of the day, this
Speaker 1: would have been something I would have been comfortable stashing.
Speaker 1: I would stash Alec Manhana have picked him up. Just
Speaker 1: drop him on the bench.
Speaker 2: Deal with that.
Speaker 1: No chance I'm starting him. Maybe the case will come
Speaker 1: back up. What we need to look for is control command.
Speaker 1: We need to see the walks are being managed and
Speaker 1: if everything else you know, is in good sights, and
Speaker 1: we can probably return to I don't know seventy five percent.
Speaker 2: Bottom line is we could.
Speaker 1: We could get back to starting him next week, although
Speaker 1: I don't know what the matchup, what his next matchup
Speaker 1: would be. Have you looked I have not looked?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Well, someone let us know what that is. Because as
Speaker 2: long as.
Speaker 1: It's not like the Rangers or the Braves or something,
Speaker 1: I'd put him out in a mediocre lineup if he's
Speaker 1: solid today, So yes, I think we would be pretty
Speaker 1: good with that one. Some other notes around baseball as
Speaker 1: we keep moving here, Gunner Henderson four for seven, two homers,
Speaker 1: five RBIs as the Orioles put it down on the Yankees.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: But Gunner Henderson has insane, insane hard hit numbers. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have any Gunner Henderson thoughts
Speaker 1: rest of season. He has just been a monster. The
Speaker 1: by window and dynasty I think is just kind of vanished,
Speaker 1: but he is one of those guys I am heavy
Speaker 1: betting in on the second half.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember earlier that people were talking about dropping
Speaker 3: him like outright like there. I was getting questions on
Speaker 3: Discord that were like, hey, if I dropped Gunner for
Speaker 3: fill in the blank? And I was like, I just
Speaker 3: don't think we should do that quite yet, you know,
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I feel like that hard hit and
Speaker 3: everything was going to come back for a team that
Speaker 3: was doing well, and now you know here he is.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the window is shut.
Speaker 2: Basically, it is a shut.
Speaker 1: By the way, dude, we said two innings, six cheeseburgers,
Speaker 1: and a small diet coke for alec Mino.
Speaker 2: You know, here's one two. I've seen this come up.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I have this in the
Speaker 1: I don't have this anywhere because we talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: If you were here with us, multiple people, not just
Speaker 1: Jay has asked when is great coming up?
Speaker 2: I need to know on this asap fast.
Speaker 1: Just go pick him up. Go pick up Grayson right now.
Speaker 1: I assume this is going to be right after the
Speaker 1: All Star break. I don't think there's any need for
Speaker 1: them to bring him up today. I guess you could
Speaker 1: bring him up maybe Sunday if you want to do
Speaker 1: something weird with the starters. But he just pitched on
Speaker 1: the fourth, so he would line up maybe the Sunday,
Speaker 1: but more like Monday. So here's what I think they do.
Speaker 1: I think he sticks around for one more minor league
Speaker 1: start and then he comes back in is set in
Speaker 1: the rotation right after the second half. So I don't
Speaker 1: think you should wait any longer. I think you should
Speaker 1: pick him up. That's the most That's the best advice
Speaker 1: I can give you for Grayson.
Speaker 2: When will they start him? Who the hell knows on.
Speaker 1: Anything anymore, But it will be soon and you should
Speaker 1: just go get him now.
Speaker 2: And I think you agree, Kelly, Yes they do.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to. I mean cole Irvan
Speaker 3: might be seeing his last start today, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what actually that might be if Cole
Speaker 1: Irvin gets lit, there's something to watch for. Speaking Francisca
Speaker 1: Aaber as we mentioned before, he went two for three
Speaker 1: against the Diamondbacks, two run homer, three RBI. As I mentioned,
Speaker 1: I think that's three straight games with a homer and
Speaker 1: he has the lead. He has got the lead in
Speaker 1: for all catchers over Sean Murphy. It's very apropos with
Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo, with pet Alnzo's style, lots of homers with
Speaker 1: a two twenty two to thirty batting average. So there
Speaker 1: you go for our boy, Francisco. Lance Lynn recorded Let's
Speaker 1: get your take care because Lanceln eleven strikeouts, seven shutout
Speaker 1: innings and a no decision.
Speaker 2: I was going to go way up against him.
Speaker 1: The day before because he leads baseball are tied with
Speaker 1: baseball in Homer's given up right now, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, lance Lynn does the weird lance Lin stuff.
Speaker 1: So are you buying what Lancelyn is selling right now?
Speaker 3: I am like Lancelyn is the one I choked last
Speaker 3: night where it's I think everyone's giving the most thought
Speaker 3: time if you roster him, whether what you're supposed to
Speaker 3: do with him at this point, I guess you start
Speaker 3: him for a while, but you start him with the
Speaker 3: idea like you don't start him if it's the end
Speaker 3: of the week and your ratio is terrible or are good,
Speaker 3: like you just leave him out. But man, if you
Speaker 3: need strikeouts, I think he's still got that going. I
Speaker 3: just don't know. I don't trust him in endurance wise,
Speaker 3: and they cannot get him a win to save their lives.
Speaker 3: So this is what you're getting with him. He's been
Speaker 3: a mystery all year.
Speaker 2: This is wild too.
Speaker 1: I think I completely forgot about that sixteen strikeout performance.
Speaker 2: He has had seven or many.
Speaker 3: He still took the loss, and he still.
Speaker 2: Took the loss.
Speaker 1: You're right, well, I mean he's given up what is
Speaker 1: that eleven earned runs in his last four games, but
Speaker 1: five of his last six have.
Speaker 2: Been at least three earned runs, and.
Speaker 1: Three of those six have been for four or more.
Speaker 1: So this last performance was a little bit more of
Speaker 1: the anomaly than anything else. But he's a big strikeout option.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's some stuff that's kind of moving in his direction.
Speaker 1: He's got an almost two runs. It's not a run
Speaker 1: in a half differential between his expected era and his
Speaker 1: actual era.
Speaker 2: Maybe the break is going to be good and maybe
Speaker 2: he's going to be a trade candidate. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not. Oh, I got it, lancelin Or Alec Manoa,
Speaker 2: rest of the season.
Speaker 3: Don't do that to me. I would, honestly, I would
Speaker 3: do I would do Lynn, and I'd hate it.
Speaker 1: Lancelote. Okay, so chat Lancelynn Alec Manoa. Who would you
Speaker 1: rather have rest the season? Post it in there?
Speaker 2: I want to know this would be a pole thing.
Speaker 2: But I don't think Mayor's around today. Attentions Okay, no,
Speaker 2: he's not the attention at all.
Speaker 1: Also, Julio Urrias yielded two runs over six innings and
Speaker 1: a win over the Pirates. He had eight strikeouts only
Speaker 1: one walk. He is critical for this Dodgers team and
Speaker 1: it's really good to see him kind of get back
Speaker 1: to it. Do you think he's going to get back
Speaker 1: to I don't know, top twenty sp for the for
Speaker 1: the second half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean at this point if he stays healthy. Now,
Speaker 3: the rest of the year. Probably he I've never been
Speaker 3: an earliest person, but I think that. Yeah, with starting now,
Speaker 3: I think he could end up in the top twenty
Speaker 3: esp easily.
Speaker 1: So Richard said, I'd rather have piece of Pa pitching,
Speaker 1: and it is Lynn unanimously, by the way, or a cheeseburger.
Speaker 2: Those are the takes I've gotten.
Speaker 1: Is Joe Pizzapia, a cheeseburger or Lance Lynn is more
Speaker 1: comfortable than Alec Manoa so far in this chat, which
Speaker 1: we are setting Alec Manoa up to have one of
Speaker 1: the greatest comebacks today of all time. This might be
Speaker 1: a must watch because the way we're talking, we are
Speaker 1: setting this guy up to throw five innings no hit
Speaker 1: and striking out like thirteen.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's going to be yes, And then
Speaker 3: I don't have to come back and talk to you
Speaker 3: after that and admit how wrong we were. It's pretty great.
Speaker 1: No, I won't come back either, yeah, especially if Carrol's injured.
Speaker 1: I just won't come back at all.
Speaker 2: Just done with it all.
Speaker 1: The rookie lookie is a little bit interesting. One quick
Speaker 1: piece here. This isn't a rookie, but he did this
Speaker 1: in the miners. Riley Green went one for three with
Speaker 1: a solo Homer on Thursday in a rehab game in
Speaker 1: Triple A, which he is close. I think they're saying
Speaker 1: he might play this weekend, so maybe it's tomorrow that
Speaker 1: he's going to be activated, which is huge for me
Speaker 1: in a couple of leagues because I had pretty heavy
Speaker 1: investments on Riley Green this year and I think this
Speaker 1: is another one of those guys out of sight, out
Speaker 1: of mind with injury. I would love to go pick
Speaker 1: up in some type of cheap trade or if you
Speaker 1: were obviously available, because I think Riley Green this is
Speaker 1: another one of those second half guys.
Speaker 2: I'm big bet on you agree one.
Speaker 3: Hundred percent yep, if he's available, to grab him or Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's a great like kind of target low by low guy.
Speaker 3: See if you can Traine Manila for him.
Speaker 1: I don't think you could, but if you could, you
Speaker 1: know what, if he has a good start, Mania has
Speaker 1: like a decent start, I would love to do that
Speaker 1: for sure one of the weeks. So this is a
Speaker 1: weird one and I hate it because I have a
Speaker 1: relationship with this guy kind of a little bit over
Speaker 1: time and chatted and had him on my show.
Speaker 2: But George Valera got into a little bit of.
Speaker 1: A skirmish yesterday in I believe he's in Double A,
Speaker 1: Triple A.
Speaker 2: He was close.
Speaker 1: That's the worst part about this is Valera was getting close.
Speaker 1: I just saw him a couple of weeks back and
Speaker 1: chatted with him out here in complex. He really struggled
Speaker 1: going up to Columbus, and then he started getting going
Speaker 1: defensively offensively picked up. Well, something happened with the catcher,
Speaker 1: and I believe the catcher was Alec Jackson.
Speaker 2: Alex Jackson.
Speaker 1: I think I saw if you guys remember him, former
Speaker 1: Mariner's prospect who catcher or braves? Yeah, no, I think
Speaker 1: he was a Mariner then a brave. Well he said something.
Speaker 1: Valera turns around, starts barking, tries to go grab his mask.
Speaker 1: Then it gets really nasty where an ump gets between
Speaker 1: them and Valera shoves the ump over and what is
Speaker 1: I can only describe as a like Yu gi Oh
Speaker 1: type of anime move. Valera goes to punch and he
Speaker 1: punches Alex Jenson Alex Jackson in the chest and Jackson
Speaker 1: doesn't move. It was a Marvel type of It was
Speaker 1: like Chung ching chi. He didn't flinch and it looked
Speaker 1: like a baby like in Valera swung hard, he didn't
Speaker 1: move and it looked like out of a cartoon. But
Speaker 1: this is not going to be good, and this is
Speaker 1: not gonna go well for I understand the type of anger.
Speaker 1: I felt that anger last night. I wanted to do
Speaker 1: the similar things. But A, you can't push umps and
Speaker 1: B you can't punch players kind of regardless of what happened,
Speaker 1: and Valara did both. So this is not going to
Speaker 1: be good, especially for the prospects of him maybe coming
Speaker 1: up this season at Hall Kelly.
Speaker 2: For the Guardians, yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a problem. I mean they're
Speaker 3: going to suspend him for a while, I would assume,
Speaker 3: and then right you're looking at it, especially for the
Speaker 3: Guardians being in contention in the worst division in baseball.
Speaker 3: Do you want to bring that up? Is there's a
Speaker 3: maturity aspect that they might question for a playoff team.
Speaker 1: So I don't think we're going to be seeing him
Speaker 1: blown through some injuries here. Houston Astros Jose al Tuv
Speaker 1: I think we might have mentioned this yesterday. Obviously, he's
Speaker 1: missed a couple of games while injuring his left oblique.
Speaker 1: While he was officially placed on the Ayel. I think
Speaker 1: after the show on yesterday, so ten day, I l
Speaker 1: so he'll come back after the All Star break Dodgers.
Speaker 1: This is sad plays Daniel Hudson. I saw him like
Speaker 1: on camp and stuff comes back. I think he gets
Speaker 1: his first save and he's immediately put back on the
Speaker 1: fifteen day il with a right knee. Mcl sprain and
Speaker 1: Kelly I think they said this is going to be
Speaker 1: a while, which is probably the rest of the year.
Speaker 3: That's what I read as well. So yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: hold on to I wouldn't hold on to him unless
Speaker 3: you have the ale space.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Chung Chi, Yeah, I could believe. Forgot the
Speaker 1: name of that one, Tim whatever it was called. That's
Speaker 1: what it looked like like. That's what Jeorge Valaria did.
Speaker 1: Heimer Candelario Jamer Candelario was removed on Thursdays and the
Speaker 1: extra innings and the Reds.
Speaker 2: He got hit by a pitch. He was down on
Speaker 2: the ground for a little bit as well. That's no
Speaker 2: bueno because.
Speaker 1: He also is a trade candidate out in the market,
Speaker 1: so we got to make sure that's going to be good.
Speaker 1: The Guardians transferred Tristan McKenzie over to the sixty day
Speaker 1: il they've got some pitching problems and Merle Merle Kelly
Speaker 1: with the Diamondbacks through a fifty four pitch bullpen session.
Speaker 1: Why is is good because he was on the shelf
Speaker 1: with a blood clot in his right calf, which I
Speaker 1: don't that sounds terrifying. That's why they begin think you
Speaker 1: get up in the hospital when you have something go on.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, yeah, that is terrifying. I'm glad you could
Speaker 3: throw the bullpen. That means that they've probably taken care
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: So he should be fully yeah, he should.
Speaker 1: Quick little note, I want to do a little bit
Speaker 1: more on this, but we're just going to do a
Speaker 1: quick one coming up this weekend. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: look at this right here, Gokards has perfect timing which
Speaker 1: LSU player you taken one to one in the draft.
Speaker 1: Because this weekend is the MLB Draft.
Speaker 2: It's on Sunday.
Speaker 1: If you guys also want to follow me, I will
Speaker 1: actually be on CBS Sports HQ on their online TV
Speaker 1: side breaking down a few of these picks. It's going
Speaker 1: to be seven pm Eastern and it why is it
Speaker 1: important and big? Because there are massive, massive talents like
Speaker 1: three or four players that would go number one in
Speaker 1: like probably five of the last seven drafts. And I
Speaker 1: just wanted to throw this out here because there's some
Speaker 1: betting odds that are out there, and I'm actually going.
Speaker 2: To give you as a tease. I've got a dual bet.
Speaker 1: I'm doing, which we're going to do in the best bets.
Speaker 1: But the most recent mock draft, Jonathan Mayo put out,
Speaker 1: here's what your top five looks like for this weekend
Speaker 1: superstar pitcher Paul Schemes. When gokard is saying which LSU
Speaker 1: player Paul Skins as the number one player to the Pirates,
Speaker 1: that has not been a.
Speaker 2: Heavy linked thing.
Speaker 1: Dylan Cruz number two going to the Nationals, So both
Speaker 1: LSU guys going. He has Tigers Wyatt Langford, which might
Speaker 1: be one of the biggest locks going three, the Rangers
Speaker 1: getting high school outfielder Max Clark, and then number five
Speaker 1: Twins taking Walker Jenkins.
Speaker 2: Those are the big.
Speaker 1: Five of all the players here, Wonkey. Are you invested
Speaker 1: at all in any of these guys in the MLB drafts?
Speaker 2: Do you know any of them?
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you digest like college and
Speaker 1: draft and high school stuff.
Speaker 2: In baseball.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I know of it. But what I
Speaker 3: was going to say was, I did read an article
Speaker 3: about taking college pitchers number one and the track record
Speaker 3: that isn't delightful. So for me, if I was, if
Speaker 3: I was the Pirates, I might go with the with
Speaker 3: is it Cruiz? It's that same Dylan Lly, Yeah, yep,
Speaker 3: I would. I might hit for him first.
Speaker 1: So interestingly enough, Dylan Cruz has been projected as the
Speaker 1: guy all off season, so much so that there are
Speaker 1: rumors that the there's a deal already with Washington and
Speaker 1: Paul Skeans, but the betting odds favorite is Paul Skins,
Speaker 1: and he showed up here though. I've got some birdies
Speaker 1: out there that told me that Dylan Cruz was met
Speaker 1: with the Pirates yesterday. The Pirates flew out to him.
Speaker 1: I have heard a rumor that they might be cutting
Speaker 1: a deal with Max Clark, just to you know, chatter
Speaker 1: that's going out there, which has also speculated into Dylan
Speaker 1: CRU's falling because of a deal that's set with Washington
Speaker 1: and schemes Wyatt Langford and the Tigers. Tigers don't want
Speaker 1: to overpay because Dylan Cruz wants over ten million dollars again,
Speaker 1: why is it it's important?
Speaker 2: There are three big.
Speaker 1: College bats in here, one that could maybe even just
Speaker 1: go to the majors in schemes, and really two of
Speaker 1: the three I think could break camps next year. So
Speaker 1: it's big fantasy stuff. I'll be breaking it all down
Speaker 1: from fantasy perspectives. I'll be around over this weekend. Those
Speaker 1: are the big ones. And I have got a bet
Speaker 1: for everybody here coming up in our bet section, because
Speaker 1: I think you guys might want to get invested in.
Speaker 1: Though everything I touch right now is dying, so whatever
Speaker 1: I say, it will be the opposite. A quick three
Speaker 1: up and three down. Francisco Indoor five for five with
Speaker 1: a homer, two triples and three runs against the Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: as they against the Diamondbacks as the Mets blew them out.
Speaker 1: Anderson Inez went two for three with a homer and
Speaker 1: three stolen bases.
Speaker 2: Maybe picking it back up.
Speaker 1: He's up to fourteen with Mirifield pair of solo homers
Speaker 1: on the three down. Luis Severino seven runs in two
Speaker 1: and two thirds, not good. Ryan Nelson absolutely obliterated for
Speaker 1: seven runs over three innings, and Bryce Harper oh for
Speaker 1: five three k's while also I just wanted to point
Speaker 1: out Tim Anderson in a doubleheader went one for nine
Speaker 1: with three ks, which wonky. I don't think that's very good.
Speaker 1: Which one feels worse? Oh for five with three ks
Speaker 1: or one for nine he did have a double with
Speaker 1: three ks.
Speaker 3: You don't think that's very good? That's excellent fantasy analysis. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I would say Tim Anderson is. He's so much more
Speaker 3: concerning to me because he's just not doing kind of anything.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if they try to trade him. It feels
Speaker 3: like he's one of those guys who might like do
Speaker 3: better or try harder if he wasn't playing for the
Speaker 3: team that he doesn't want to be on anymore.
Speaker 2: I feel he's getting traded. There's a lot of drama
Speaker 2: around him. I think he's getting traded.
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Speaker 3: All right? So I've been really big on the combined
Speaker 3: Caze lately. I've been winning more than not winning. And
Speaker 3: I like the Hunter Brown Luis Castillo combo for over
Speaker 3: eleven point five. I just feel like that both teams
Speaker 3: have the propensity to strike out. Sorry. And then I
Speaker 3: have candel Ario if he's health, if he comes back,
Speaker 3: depending on health, but he's been doing really well on
Speaker 3: the fantasy teams I've picked him up on, so he's
Speaker 3: kind of an under the radar probably available in a
Speaker 3: lot of leagues for over one point five hits runs
Speaker 3: or RBIs. And then I've got Otani because I just
Speaker 3: decided to pick the cheat code for over eight point
Speaker 3: five Fantasy score.
Speaker 1: Honestly, why not like Otani? It's just it's a safe bet.
Speaker 1: Left he's riety, it just doesn't matter. If he's out there,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get hit it every single time. But
Speaker 1: your odds are exponentially better with Otani out in any
Speaker 1: of your betting prize picks, Fantasy, whatever lineups, you're safer.
Speaker 1: I am going with Zach Gallen and Justin Verlander combined
Speaker 1: k's at eleven and a half. I really like Gallen today.
Speaker 1: I don't remember if I put it on my bets.
Speaker 1: I actually didn't even put it on my bets. But
Speaker 1: the six and a half k's I'm kind.
Speaker 2: Of down with.
Speaker 1: Pirates on the season don't strike out as much but
Speaker 1: recently are striking out. And Gallon you know, big twelve
Speaker 1: K performance, So I really like Gallen today. Eleven and
Speaker 1: a half are Gallon and Verlander. Love Corey Seger eight
Speaker 1: and a half. I tend to go to Cory Seger
Speaker 1: and he goes oh for four and Luis Robert fantasy
Speaker 1: score eight. So those are my three over on the
Speaker 1: price picks. As far as betting goes today, I have
Speaker 1: got two of my odder weirder plays.
Speaker 2: Texas team total.
Speaker 1: Runs through the first five innings, so just how many
Speaker 1: runs are they going to score in the first five innings?
Speaker 1: Over two and a half?
Speaker 2: Love this play.
Speaker 1: Immediately played it last night, even though it's kind of
Speaker 1: juiced up. You might want to pair it with something.
Speaker 1: Here's another one that you can pair it with if
Speaker 1: you want, but also play solo. Toronto Detroit runs two
Speaker 1: and a half over through. I believe that is now
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting. I believe that's through the first three innings.
Speaker 1: So that's first three innings, two and a half runs over.
Speaker 1: That was my way to get invested in this Minoa.
Speaker 1: Also there's a possibility of Minah is good and Veto
Speaker 1: isn't good. So this just gets me some action in
Speaker 1: this game on one side of the other. I just
Speaker 1: need three runs scored in the first three innings. And
Speaker 1: then here's my draft bet Dylan Cruz as of last
Speaker 1: night over on DK. You guys can go over to
Speaker 1: betting Pros. You can check out all the odds on
Speaker 1: all the places. But on DK was two twenty five.
Speaker 1: Max Clark was four hundred. So here's how I play it.
Speaker 1: I bet, I guess in my world would be two
Speaker 1: units on Dylan Cruz to go uh number one overall
Speaker 1: at two twenty five, and then I bet at one
Speaker 1: unit on Max Clark, which assured me if one of
Speaker 1: those two gets drafted, I am taking home two units.
Speaker 1: So no matter what, even though I put the two
Speaker 1: bets out there, I've left myself open for Paul Skeens.
Speaker 2: Langford is not going one.
Speaker 1: Skeens can but the whole industry believes that skeens in
Speaker 1: Washington are match made in Heaven. So I'm setting myself
Speaker 1: up that I'm going to get one of these. With
Speaker 1: how things are going in my world right now, it'll
Speaker 1: one hundred percent be Paul Skins, but I feel it's
Speaker 1: been dealing Cruise with an outside shot at Max Clark.
Speaker 2: So betting both of those assures me a nice payout.
Speaker 1: And hey, if you want to, you can get a
Speaker 1: little bit less of a return if Cruise goes. If
Speaker 1: you want to bet the same amount if Max goes,
Speaker 1: you're going to get a much better return. If Cruise goes,
Speaker 1: you've eaten into your profit a bit, but you're still okay.
Speaker 1: But two units on Cruise, one on Max Clark. That's
Speaker 1: my MLB draft betting. I'm doing wonky.
Speaker 2: What do you got?
Speaker 3: I would do like a I'm really big into round robins,
Speaker 3: which we can discuss some other day when I host
Speaker 3: again in August, but for today, I would do just small,
Speaker 3: like three three pick round robin. I love the Yankees
Speaker 3: against the Cubs. Jameson Taian is terrible, and he is
Speaker 3: just legitimately terrible, even though his expected stats say he
Speaker 3: shouldn't be. He is the Red Sox. I'm going with
Speaker 3: the run line on that one over Luis Medina and Oakland.
Speaker 3: They're at home. I think the wind's blown out. There's
Speaker 3: just no way. And then I'm actually going with the
Speaker 3: Betting Pros pick of the day, which is over eight
Speaker 3: and a half runs between Atlanta and Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2: Oh. I like that one.
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Speaker 2: I'm not as My.
Speaker 1: Acumen for dfs like Joe Is isn't quite as good,
Speaker 1: but I did put out there. If you're looking for
Speaker 1: some arms, I'm very heavily focused on Zach Gallon. I
Speaker 1: also really like Hunter Brown today. I like the K
Speaker 1: markers on him. If I'm stacking, I'm looking at the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: I'm really looking at the Giants. Who the Giants have
Speaker 1: going up against Austin Gomber and Colorado. Also maybe the
Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox. So you can pick and choose from
Speaker 1: there if you want to get those bad boys going.
Speaker 2: I did not get the home run boards, so I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Or have it, but I did see Razor earlier say
Speaker 1: that he recaptured the lead, so I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know, Kelly, where we are on the leader board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually updated it in the sheet, but yep.
Speaker 3: So we've got Razor at thirty three, JJ Tator at
Speaker 3: thirty two, Riley at twenty nine, Time at twenty eight,
Speaker 3: and then a lot of people with twenty six who.
Speaker 1: Did Razor hack Razor got who had multiple homers yesterday?
Speaker 1: Because maybe Gunner Razor, who did you go with because
Speaker 1: you jumped over Tater, and I think you were one behind.
Speaker 1: So Razor and Tater are both over the thirties, the
Speaker 1: only ones. And then we've got a litany of twenty
Speaker 1: five twenty six is and I have just kind of
Speaker 1: fallen off. I'm back to my old ways. Apparently I'm
Speaker 1: going to be a super streaky home run caller because
Speaker 1: I was up up up, I am a down to
Speaker 1: down right now, and Joe has been kind of moving up. So, Kelly,
Speaker 1: who you got for your home run call today?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So, I don't know if I did this just because
Speaker 3: it's you and me, or because the wind is blown
Speaker 3: out and he's facing Cole Urban, But I'm going with
Speaker 3: Byron Buxton, assuming he can stand up straight and get
Speaker 3: into the better shoes a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Are you truly you know?
Speaker 3: He might? No, I'm serious. He might come out with
Speaker 3: an injury, probably five seconds before game time, and I'll switch.
Speaker 3: But but for now, Byron Buckson, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like I'm getting it.
Speaker 1: You had one hundred percent be Buckston, and it's like
Speaker 1: Corbin's hurt and Buxton and then Paul Skeins will go on,
Speaker 1: everything's not coming out. I'm going with another thing. If
Speaker 1: you want to go and check out the conversation that
Speaker 1: Joe and I had over on Betting Pros. We did
Speaker 1: a video all about the home run Derby, how to
Speaker 1: bet it, are logic around it, and you may hear
Speaker 1: me talk positively about this guy right here, a Doulas
Speaker 1: Garcia in the Home Run Derby. I really like some
Speaker 1: metrics in his favor. If you even want to pretend
Speaker 1: to metrics matter and home Run Derby, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with the dolls today. So that's my pick for the
Speaker 1: home run call a Doulas Garcia. I guess that's going
Speaker 1: to be my weekend call as well. I might change
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Speaker 2: And you can chat with all the awesome people and.
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Speaker 2: So we did it. I didn't cry, which I think
Speaker 2: was a really good thing.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was going to cry a couple times.
Speaker 1: I didn't cry today. No bad news happen. But Kelly,
Speaker 1: what do you got going on in the world as
Speaker 1: we go into the weekend? Plug something something positive?
Speaker 3: Plug something positive. Well, I'm trying to figure out how
Speaker 3: we're going to do the home run calls for the
Speaker 3: home Run Derby, which is usually a pretty fun, sort
Speaker 3: of wonky little contest. So you should definitely join the
Speaker 3: discord because it is fantastic. And yeah, I really wasn't
Speaker 3: trolling you and Richard. I'm sorry, but I still believe
Speaker 3: that I would drop Buxton for lamont Waite, so you know,
Speaker 3: there's just that. But otherwise, yeah, I'm just looking forward
Speaker 3: to watching some baseball and relaxing in my little house.
Speaker 3: So what are you doing?
Speaker 1: What happened to wonky Wednesdays? By the way, where we
Speaker 1: got our bonuses? What happened to our bonuses?
Speaker 3: We usually implement those when Joe goes away, So okay,
Speaker 3: so because he always picks the judges, and then I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: let's catch him because he won't participate. So yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Well we see how that goes this year.
Speaker 1: But you know the way this is going, I either
Speaker 1: need Joe to never go or never come back. I
Speaker 1: don't know which way this is gonna go with the
Speaker 1: Gorbyn Carroll stuff.
Speaker 2: But hope he hedged his bet. Hopey got is hedged bet.
Speaker 1: That's what he cares about. I'm sitting over here crying.
Speaker 1: I'm like, my brand is all crazy. Like I said,
Speaker 1: if you guys want to check me out this weekend,
Speaker 1: I'll be on CBS Sports HQ for some draft coverage
Speaker 1: and we'll be breaking it down next week. We got
Speaker 1: some great videos here on the Fantasy Pro MLB YouTube
Speaker 1: channel as well as betting pros and just follow me
Speaker 1: over at is It the Welsh. Also, we're both on
Speaker 1: threads if you care. Horrible job everyone's doing, even though
Speaker 1: some have tried. We're letting Joe far surpass me and
Speaker 1: that's a travesty. So let's take care of that. We
Speaker 1: can't let the bad guys win, and the bad guys
Speaker 1: out there with the steel chair and letting Corbyn Carrol
Speaker 1: get hurt.
Speaker 2: I hope you guys have a fantastic weekend.
Speaker 1: We'll enjoy it on some All Star breaks and we
Speaker 1: will be back again on Monday, Joe and me.
Speaker 2: Hopefully, maybe we'll just kick Joe off and we'll get Kelly.
Speaker 1: But Kelly, thank you so much for hanging out with
Speaker 1: me and you guys will see you next time. Right
Speaker 1: here on leading all by friends feel