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Speaker 2: it's Joe Aurico in the house, and we had some

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Speaker 2: breaking news just before the show covered, so we're gonna

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Speaker 2: hit that as well. But Joe, what's up?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well? Man. It's good because these shows were

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Speaker 1: kind of thinking about what are we going to talk

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Speaker 1: with today, what are gonna be the hot topics, and

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Speaker 1: we got a beautiful one right before we started going

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Speaker 1: on today, so should be fun to talk Roman Anthony.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of those things too. We did the Prospect

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Speaker 2: with the Welsh segment, and I just always feel like

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Speaker 2: when there are when there's big prospects, because I obviously

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Speaker 2: don't want to retread information every week, super important not

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Speaker 2: to do that. But when there are just in your

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Speaker 2: And I think there's only two players that really truly

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Speaker 2: God knows if if the moon aligns correctly at some point,

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Speaker 2: you know he will get called up. The other is

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Speaker 2: Roman Anthony. So we kind of did at the very

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Speaker 2: top of that segment like hey, here's your top three.

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Speaker 2: These are the no brainers. If they come up, you

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Speaker 2: got moved up a triple A. So go and check

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Speaker 2: it out on the YouTube. It was un leading off,

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Speaker 2: but it'll also be on the shorts. We have like

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Speaker 2: a short form video on Fantasy Pro's YouTube channel YouTube

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Speaker 2: dot com. Slash Fantasy pros mL BE don't want you

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Speaker 2: to miss any of it, but we did kind of

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Speaker 2: do a quick ish gloss through of it and with it,

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Speaker 2: and I actually didn't see this, So career kick is

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Speaker 2: giving me some information that I'm gonna need to actually

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Speaker 2: fix today as well. Is will your Brady apparently is

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Speaker 2: going to the IEL, which I did not see, and

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Speaker 2: I think I picked him for the home run contest.

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Speaker 2: But Roman Anthony as mentioned on the show, Hey, he

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Speaker 2: could come up anytime soon. You have to roster him.

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Speaker 2: And then like three hours after leading off airs, bam,

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Speaker 2: Roman Anthony is officially getting called up. And it looks

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Speaker 2: like Willier is kind of the piece. Can you look

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Speaker 2: That does make sense though, because there was no like

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Speaker 2: Willier is headed to the IL with an issue with

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Speaker 2: as we're recording this batting fifth, what's your level of

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Speaker 2: I want you to think about it in a NFBC

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Speaker 1: I think they would still keep him up. He's just

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Speaker 1: in TRIPAA. He almost has walked as much as he's

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Speaker 1: He looks like an absolute superstar. You are much more

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Speaker 1: going to be probably the better person to turn to

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Speaker 1: for the specifics of Roman Anthony's development and everything. But

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking that he is worth an ad even in

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Speaker 2: Yes, one thousand dollars budget, mind you, because if that

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Speaker 2: Roman Anthony shouldn't have been available, And I understand the

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Speaker 2: frustration because people are they're kind of throwing it out

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Speaker 2: Bubba Chandler up agreed. I think everybody kind of agrees, like,

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Speaker 1: Like do that?

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Speaker 2: Why not do it? There's control, there's manipulation and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. But at the same time, is as frustrating

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Speaker 2: If he's sitting out there, regardless of the format, just

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Speaker 1: I would probably go slightly to Roman Anthony just because

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna provide some speed and might be

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Speaker 1: an amazing but he's attempted six of them, where with

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Speaker 1: Jack maybe we get a couple, maybe he's in the

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Speaker 1: With Roman Anthony. He is not going to hit for

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Speaker 1: he's also in a much better lineup. Kansas City's lineup

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Speaker 2: I think there's definitely the possibility. The only thing he

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Speaker 2: feels like Anthony might be destined to be hitting somewhere

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Speaker 2: he strikes. It just hit like almost five hundred footer

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Speaker 2: really hard. I'm actually not sure that Roman Anthony beats

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Speaker 2: Right now? He's up, he's hot, people are excited. He's

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Speaker 2: going to revamp this offense. Like, do you think the

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Speaker 1: Like that, I could get the SP twenty five for

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Speaker 1: just because we know the struggles that rookies go through,

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Speaker 1: Mackenzie Gore, Clay Holmes, Jack Flaherty. If I could move

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Speaker 1: There is always the hype. It doesn't usually match up

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Speaker 1: to the production when it comes to these rookies, and

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Speaker 1: it comes to stashers in general. You're holding a guy

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Speaker 1: you're expecting the moon. And then I had a question

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Speaker 1: last week about after like three days, should I drop

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Speaker 2: don't we don't have to have everybody. That's fine if

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Speaker 1: Now, for now, for now. But I wouldn't hesitate to

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Speaker 2: To him cam Smith.

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Speaker 1: If you can afford to hold him, then I don't

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Speaker 1: But I really like Kyle Teal. I think that he's

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Speaker 2: go to some listener questions we've got here? Gamova said,

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Speaker 2: what do we do with Bubba? He just by himself

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Speaker 2: a prospect guy, and all you've probably been hearing is

431
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Speaker 2: Bubba Chandler, Bubba Chandler. He never comes up. Is he

432
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 2: someone that you actually think you need to stash or

433
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 2: if you've been stashing, could you possibly dump him for

434
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,680
Speaker 2: a pseudo hot arm.

435
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't think so, so, I think especially if you've

436
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 1: been holding. Yeah, I try to avoid the whole sunk

437
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 1: cost thing, but you've been holding him. If you drop

438
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 1: him right now, he's gonna get called up next week.

439
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: It's just the way that these things tend to work.

440
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 1: But at the same time, the wins are not going

441
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 1: to be there. I mean even in Triple A, they're

442
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 1: not even there. Twelve game twelve starts, two wins. But

443
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 1: look look at Paul Skins, right every time out, he's

444
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 1: going seven innings, six to two thirds, seven and two thirds, whatever,

445
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: and he never gets any run support. He never gets

446
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: any wins. And I worry a little bit that Bubba's

447
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 1: gonna come up and they're gonna have some kid gloves

448
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: with him. Initially, maybe we don't see him going six

449
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 1: to seven innings, and the win potential is going to

450
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: be the same, if not even a little bit worse,

451
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: because he'll have less control over his own destiny, having

452
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 1: to rely probably more on the pen than Skins is.

453
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 1: At this point, I don't see them bringing up Chandler

454
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: and having him go seven innings every time, So the

455
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: wins are probably not going to be there. But other

456
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 1: than that, just based on the profile we've seen at

457
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 1: Triple A, he seems like the kind of guy who

458
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: can come up and have immediate success. And even Paul

459
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Speaker 1: Skans and we're looking at what he did last year,

460
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean one ninety six era point nine to five

461
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: whip are not going to happen. Probably that was a

462
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 1: charmed rookie season. But I think that Bubba can be

463
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 1: somewhere in the three type of ra with a one

464
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: to ten or so whip and that's valuable even if

465
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: it's not coming with victories. Those ratios are so hard

466
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 1: to find, so hard to come by on the waiver wire.

467
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: So I'm holding Chandler. I think it's only a matter

468
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: of time. I know we've been saying that for a

469
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: long long time, but every day that goes by, it

470
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 1: means we're one day closer to Bubba Chandler. At the

471
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: end of the day, they're not going to keep him

472
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: down the entirety of the season. He will come up

473
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Speaker 1: at some point. And now we're pushing the halfway point

474
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,959
Speaker 1: of the year. It's got to be any week now.

475
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: And I think if you're holding, you still got to

476
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: continue to hold unless you see some crazy name sitting

477
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: on the wire, But I think you got to hold them.

478
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 2: If you've held this long, what are you doing, Like,

479
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,719
Speaker 2: this is not the time to now you don't make

480
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: the cut. I think he could also go the way

481
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 2: of like Jared Jones and Jared Jones had an incredible

482
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 2: first half, things did come back down to earth. Also

483
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: kind of a fastball slidery guy, but one of the

484
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 2: best graded fastballs in all the minor league. I'm I'm

485
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 2: here for it. I think you need to hold and

486
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: try to make do, especially because you've done so so far.

487
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: And if he's out there, go pick him up. A

488
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 2: game said what, No, this is how sorry? Would you

489
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 2: rather trade away Machado or Camonaro, both using up third

490
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 2: base and util so I think we would probably both

491
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 2: quickly answer, don't do either regardless. But if you had

492
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Speaker 2: to trade one, who you're trading Machado or Camonaro.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you struck gold with these two. I wouldn't trade

494
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: either unless you got blown away. I guess I would

495
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: maybe move Machado just because he's older and more things

496
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: can pop up. But I think you're just holding unless

497
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: somebody really knocks your socks off.

498
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm moving camon Aro in this one.

499
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 2: I think Camanaro might have as much value as Machado,

500
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: and maybe even a tiny bit more in some circles

501
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: for redraft. This is not a dynasty thing in redraft,

502
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: and I know exactly what I'm getting out of Machado,

503
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: especially when they're going to start getting into like a

504
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: really tight Pennant race and stuff like, I think I

505
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: want to bank on Machada. The ballpark does favor Cam

506
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: and Arrow more, but I'm I'm gonna say I keep

507
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 2: Machado and try to get a haul for Cameron Arow.

508
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: You're on the other side, and that's so cool.

509
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: The only thing that worries me is just that he

510
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: has a little bit of an injury history at this

511
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: point and he's like ten years older. But what you're

512
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: saying makes sense, Yeah.

513
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: A career kick had. This is kind of that Roman

514
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: Anthony stuff and we'd already talked about it, but mentions Willier,

515
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: thinking is Roman up for good or is this dependent

516
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: on how he does while Williers on the shelf. I

517
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: think it's a little bit of that. I don't think. Yeah,

518
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: Williams's not gonna be the expense of his playing time.

519
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: Williams is not gonna go away unless they did decide

520
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: to move him or trade him, which I kind of

521
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: just don't think they will, even though I know he's

522
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: popped up as well. But like, if Roman is awesome,

523
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to make a serious decision. I would lie.

524
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: I at this point think I know it's dangerous to

525
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 2: have lots of prospects. You gotta you gotta get rid

526
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: of Trevor's story. Like Trevor story is, he's falling down.

527
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: Let me go be your third baseman or i'm sorry,

528
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: your shortstop, and let Campbell be your second baseman. And

529
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: then you've got Anthony and wrote right field you're golden,

530
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 2: and will You can be your DH and you can

531
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Speaker 2: just play between those things. That's what i'd like to see.

532
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll do it, but if Roman

533
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: Anthony struggles, guess what built an excuse? When Will You's back?

534
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: If he's awesome, then they're gonna have to make a

535
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: tough decision somewhere, whether it's maybe they know they have

536
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 2: a trade looming, or you know, DFA a Trevor story

537
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 2: or what the hell ever? You know, Abraham Torro has

538
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: been playing well, but maybe you cut bait on one

539
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: of Roman or a Rome I'm sorry, Romy Gonzales or Toro,

540
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: and then you move Trevor story over to be in

541
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 2: some first base platoon. So they'll find a way they

542
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: want to find a way. They'll they'll find it, and

543
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: I think that's been the most frustrating thing of why

544
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: he's not up. Do you have anything else outside of that?

545
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: I think if I was running the team, I'm giving

546
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: Devers a first base club and I'm saying, you're playing

547
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: first base. Toro's done, and then you'll do that. He's

548
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: already he refuses, what are they gonna do? What does

549
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: he get to do?

550
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: Like or maybe they've lightly I don't mean to cut off.

551
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: They have said he's not interested in it, and I

552
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: think he had mentioned in the past if they were,

553
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: like if they forced him to, he would, But they've

554
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 2: come to him and he's like, nope, So that's the problem.

555
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: Like they they obviously do not want to be the

556
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: team that forces a player to do it, especially when

557
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 2: you have someone so unwilling to be helpful for your team.

558
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: It's just so baffling to me, Like that would solve

559
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: all the problems pretty much, you know, and then you

560
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: can rotate those four outfielders around with the age spot.

561
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: It just makes so much sense. Story as well, I mean,

562
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: Story hasn't done really. I think he's had a couple

563
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: of decent games lately, but for the season as a whole.

564
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: He has a sixty nine WRC plus. He's thirty one

565
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: percent worse than league average. He's not a plus defender anymore.

566
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're doing. I don't know what

567
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: they're doing. I don't either.

568
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: M grabs says, does Bubba Roman have a better shot

569
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 2: at being keeper worthy in a five cat head to

570
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: head league twelve team? Four keepers?

571
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: Though?

572
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: I think both of those guys are pretty tough to

573
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: keep in a fore keeper unless your team stinks.

574
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agreed. I think that it would be a

575
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: stretch for either of them. Is one of them more likely?

576
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: I guess the fact that Anthony is up now, if

577
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: he does, you know, if he knocks our socks off

578
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: and goes twenty twenty the rest of the way, maybe

579
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: you'd give you a tough decision. But yeah, I think,

580
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: like well said, it would have to be a pretty

581
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: bad roster for him to be one of the four,

582
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: for either to be one of the four.

583
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: But you know, there are plenty of times I've seen

584
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: rosters where it's like three keepers are just so they're like,

585
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: oh I got a Kunya Tatis and you know, whatever

586
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: the hell, Ellie, and then their fourth keeper is like

587
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: they're trying to figure out if they should keep you know,

588
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: an aging Matt Olsen, Luis Robert or Roman Anthony. And

589
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: let's say that's the case. That actually is a scenario

590
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: where Anthony could be viable. Olsen's added down this year,

591
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: he's getting older. If Anthony kind of pops off, By

592
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: the way, I totally understand that scenario. I already said

593
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: two outfielders, but you get what I'm doing. I do

594
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: think there is the possibility that Roman anthe could be that.

595
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: I do not think Bubba is going to be thrown

596
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: into that the Pirates. Bubba would have to be like

597
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 2: Paul Skeins, which is a definite I guess, I guess possibility.

598
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: But I would say Roman Anthony has he has an out.

599
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: He has the better shot of that question. Dexter says,

600
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: is Barger a must add in ten team? What do

601
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: I think? What do the advanced metrics say about him?

602
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: He absolutely pops off as far as expected stats go.

603
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: Baseball Savant page is beautiful. That's why I've been talking

604
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: about him for a couple months. Two sixty two seven homers,

605
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: fifty two percent hard hit rate, ridiculous, tops of the league,

606
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: and average and max exit velocity expect a batting average

607
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: is thirty points higher than he has barrel rates good,

608
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 2: It all looks sexy. Is he good enough to hold

609
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: in a ten team? Is he a muscle or must

610
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: pick up? I guess if he's available.

611
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: But my home league is a ten team league, and

612
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: he was my Alex Bragman replacement. The timing worked out

613
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: beautifully for Barger's little run here, but I think that

614
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: it's beyond I shouldn't even minimize it. It's more than

615
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: just a little run. There are serious improvements. I'm a

616
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: Blue Jay fan and I've watched him throughout the last

617
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: few years, and he is a different player than last year.

618
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: He was striking out a lot, a lot more, he

619
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: was chasing more, he was making less contact in the zone.

620
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: He is a different player this year, and the power

621
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: metrics really backed that up. His barrel rate went from

622
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: eight percent to fifteen, hard hit from thirty eight to

623
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: fifty two. The average exit velocity went from eighty eight

624
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: to ninety four, and the max exit velocity last year

625
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: was one ten. This year it's already at one sixteen.

626
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: He is a different player the Blue Jays as a whole.

627
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: I talked a little bit about how team has been

628
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: performing over the last month. The Blue Jays have the

629
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: third best WRC plus over the last month, one point

630
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: behind the Yankees and the Dodgers. It's been an unbelievable

631
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: thing to see Toronto turn things around offensively, and I

632
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: think Barger has been a huge part of it. So

633
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: long story short, I think he's worth adding everywhere, even

634
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: if you're using him in a utility spot. I think

635
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: the power's legit, the lineups jit his defense is very

636
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: legit as well. Not a ton of reps so far

637
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: this year, but he's already plus two defensive run saved

638
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: and outs above average at third in just two hundred

639
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: and thirty innings. He's gonna stick in this lineup, and

640
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: this lineup right now is very very good. So I'd

641
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: add him wherever you can.

642
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for the most part, I'm kind of

643
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: in that same space with you that in a ten team,

644
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: he is so hot, the metrics look good. I think

645
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: you should do it. But what if I ask you

646
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: you can only add one Barger or Roman Anthony.

647
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get called a homer, but I think it's

648
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: probably Barger just because he's already gone through the ups

649
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: and downs of the miners. He's had a bad stretch

650
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: of major league play last season, and I think that

651
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: that's an important piece of the puzzle of guys having

652
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: to kind of go through the lows and figure things out.

653
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: And he's already rolling right now. There's a chance that

654
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: Anthony comes up and he does kind of something similar.

655
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: But I think just considering the state of the Blue

656
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 1: Jays offense and the fact that Barger is pretty much

657
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: guaranteed an everyday roll, there's no chance that he's leaving

658
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: the lineup at this point, where with Anthony, two cold

659
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: weeks and I'll break you back could mean he's back

660
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: in triple A. So I think Barger is the safer call.

661
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: Anthony has the more upside, but I think Barger is

662
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: is the way I would go in a lot of so.

663
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: I kind of think that is the right answer. I'm

664
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: gonna say Anthony, though, because I think the upside is

665
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: really tremendous in that offense. You and I completely agree

666
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: something I would have made as a statement if you

667
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: told me after one hundred and fifty at bats that

668
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: Anthony could be hitting two sixty with seven Homers, you

669
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: know at three twenty five or three forty, let's say

670
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: obp like, I'd be ecstatic. I'd be like, oh, yeah,

671
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: it's working out. That's where Barger is right now, So

672
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: definitely possibility. I'm gonna go with the upside though. Let's

673
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: do a little burn and turn on some of these

674
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: so we can get through them and we'll get to

675
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: our last topics.

676
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: Here.

677
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: Would you guys accept or decline? This trade got offered

678
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: Lindor Devers and Chandler Simpson for Hunter Brown, Mookie and

679
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: Matt Shaw. This is a ten team keeper, so they're

680
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: getting Lindor, Devers and Simpson but having to give away Brown,

681
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: Bets and Matt Shaw. I instantly want to say no,

682
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: but you're getting two top thirty hitters. Lindor is a

683
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: little bit older for a top pitcher and then a

684
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: top hitter, and then the differentiating factor is Simpson versus Shaw,

685
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: which is kind of tough. I don't know that, and

686
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: it's in team keeper. I think I'm leaning Bets and

687
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: Brown here, but Lindor and Devers is a pretty damn

688
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: good offer. What do you think?

689
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing with Lindor getting older, that's kind of

690
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: is on the other side too.

691
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: That's is as well, so you're kind of if you

692
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: figure swapping those two. You can look at this as

693
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: like Devors for Brown, and.

694
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: I would almost always take the hitter over the pitcher,

695
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: just in a vacuum, given the injury risks. I My

696
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: initial lean is the Lindor and Dever side, but I

697
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: think I think it's fair. I don't think anybody's getting

698
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: ripped off here, but I think that the Lindor side,

699
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: for me, is a little more is a little more interesting.

700
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: I think as long as they're all keepers too, I

701
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: guess I'm gonna still lean the bets Brown, but more

702
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: i'm thinking about it, Lindor Devers might be the better haul.

703
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: Simpson and Shot probably don't come into equation unless this

704
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: is like a deep key. Joseph said, keep your trade question.

705
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: Would you trade Ivan Herrera, jung Hu, Lee, Clay Holmes

706
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: and a fifth rounder to get Cal Raley, Seth Lugo

707
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: and a twelfth rounder? So you're trading Herrera, Lee, Holmes

708
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: and a fifth to get Lugo and RALEI.

709
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: I think you're giving up too much. Lugo is we're

710
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: running out of time where Lugo can still be productive.

711
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: He is he thirty seven now, thirty six, thirty seven,

712
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how many more years you're going to

713
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: have out of him. Raleigh has been brilliant, but I

714
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: also don't really expect this pace to continue. He's pacing

715
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: for like a sixty home run twenty steel season with

716
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: a three hundred batting average. I'm not saying he's like

717
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: a big cell high, but I think he's playing over

718
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: his skis a little bit. I really like Ivan Herrera,

719
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: I really like Jung Hu Lee. The Dodgers have been

720
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: linked to him, and Clay Holmes is doing really good

721
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: things this season, So I would personally want more if

722
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to move off of Herrera and Jung Hu

723
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: Lee and Holmes.

724
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Like there's also an element

725
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: of if you're like, well, I want Raleigh and Lugo

726
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: because I'm play for now, it's like, well, I'd rather

727
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: have Clay Holmes and Lugo and Herrera's not that far

728
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: off from Raleigh. Is that worth the upgrade to also

729
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: get rid of Lee in the fifth rounder? Maybe? Yeah,

730
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: maybe cal Rally has been incredible, but I really do

731
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: love Ivan Herrera. I'd like to do this as like

732
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: I trade Herrera in a fifth for cal Raley, or

733
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I upgrade the pick to a fourth

734
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: Herrera in cal Raley. I might work something like that

735
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: the Big Dance Autokemp, or let's do Lightning round on

736
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: these Auto Kemp or Ronnie Mauricio.

737
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: It would have to be Mauricio for me. I think

738
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: Kemp is just a short term guy. I think Mauricio

739
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: could stick, especially with what you've seen recently. Camp.

740
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if Harper is too short term here.

741
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: I'll say Ronnie Mauricio, but I don't think we should

742
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: sleep on Kemp. How would you guys rank Torklsen, Kurtz,

743
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: Ben Rice rest of season in the Daily Lineup League?

744
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: What's your rank?

745
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: Probably in the order you have it laid out there,

746
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: Torkles and Kurtz and Rice.

747
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I am inverse order, Rice, Kurtz, Torkelsen. Rice

748
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: has expected numbers that are I think we're going to

749
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: get back to where we saw early. His averages definitely

750
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: dip back down, but I think he's going to bounce

751
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: back still a really great profile. Kurtz was starting to

752
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: find it Sortson's fine but I'm going to go reverse

753
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 2: order rest of season, and the answer might be Kurtz,

754
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: by the way, who we had in the middle on

755
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: both of those, Joseph, what do we like rest of

756
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 2: season in a category league? Westburg or Mikel Garcia.

757
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm not really married to either, but Mikel Garcia has

758
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: been one of the low and bright spots in Kansas City.

759
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: He's been really good, so I think i'd probably lean

760
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: with him, although I think that's probably gonna be an

761
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: unpopular choice.

762
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: I think his production is impossible to drop. But I

763
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: also think Jordan Westburg from moving forward could be the

764
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: more valuable player, so kind of take that, like, I

765
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: guess I'm gonna say Jordan Westburg, but like, how do

766
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: you cut Michael Garcia right now? I don't even know

767
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: how you end up doing that. Who is up first?

768
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: Christian Moore or Bubba Chandler? And and then the secondary

769
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 2: question is who is a better keeper value, Bubba or Christian?

770
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 2: More so, who's up and who has better value?

771
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: I would imagine the answer to both is probably Bubba,

772
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: but the Angels are pretty aggressive with how they promote prospects,

773
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: so more could be up first, but I would prefer

774
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: to have Bubba.

775
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm going to go on both. And then

776
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: finally Joe Hulee, is he droppable for barger.

777
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: If you need a third basement. Third basement are a

778
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: lot harder to come by than outfielders. I'd prefer to

779
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: hold Lee, but I would understand the move.

780
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can. I think you can make

781
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: that move. I want to remind everybody whos we're answering questions.

782
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,040
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783
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,600
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803
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 2: Weeni in the Butt a couple of things I want

804
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: to get your take on, and then we're going to

805
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: get out of here. Two rest of season pitcher questions,

806
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: Uri Perez. We are playing a very dangerous game right

807
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: now because we are recording this before Uri Perez makes

808
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: his debut. He's going up against the Pirates, which is

809
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 2: very nice. We love that. Probably going to be capped

810
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: to some capacity. He's coming off with this injury. He's

811
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: had a very long, extended rehabitantst of season. What do

812
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: you think Euri PRES's value is as far as an

813
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: sp goes and do you think it is better to

814
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: trade Uri right now in inherent value when where things

815
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: could go or you should hold on because of what

816
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: the return will look like.

817
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: So I think, and I got this question the other day,

818
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: and I thought about it for a long time, and

819
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: I think a reasonable expectation is probably a top fifty

820
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: or sixty starting pitcher just because you've got a factor

821
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: in Miami is going to win Nada. They are not

822
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of win opportunities coming for him.

823
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: But the actual production is where I really struggle, because

824
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to make of his command. What

825
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: we've seen from a lot of from pretty much everybody

826
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: coming back from Tommy John is that the command is

827
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: the last thing to come back. And what we saw

828
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: in his rehabs in the minors was an increased walk

829
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: rate that was well over ten percent. So I worry

830
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: a little bit. Like in single A he was at

831
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: seven percent walk rate, whatever he went up to triple

832
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: A the thirteen percent, And if the command doesn't come

833
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: back the way we're hoping for, then it might be

834
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tough road for him. But

835
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: at the same time, the talent is absolutely through the

836
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: roof that I feel like even if his command isn't

837
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: quite up to par, he could still get by just

838
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: because he's going to have something like a thirty percent

839
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: strikeout rate. That's where he's been in his rehab twenty

840
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: eight percent. So I think that he can get by

841
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: if you're at a twenty eight twenty nine percent strikeout rate,

842
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: even if you're walking eleven percent, we can see success

843
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: with that. It just makes it a little bit harder.

844
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: So if you can trade him, it really depends on

845
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: what you're trading him for. If it's a keeper league,

846
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it.

847
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not talking keeper at all, but just.

848
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: For redraft purposes. If somebody is going to offer you,

849
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: I guess the bar would have to be for me,

850
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: like a top one hundred and fifty overall player or

851
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: maybe even one hundred and twenty five or so.

852
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: I feel like you're talking like down when you said

853
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 2: top like fifty SP. I think expectations are a little

854
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: bit higher. I think market is like a higher cost.

855
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: So you actually might personally benefit if you're not as

856
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: high on him from trading him, because I think I

857
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: think a reasonable reasonable in like the Fantasy Baseball trademinder,

858
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: is that like, hey, Ury can come in and be

859
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: like a top thirty SP, he can come back and

860
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: be a similar. Think of like, now, I know it

861
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: didn't work out, but think of like Strider, Streider and McClanahan, like,

862
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: oh they're back, they're pitching d Dad, this is what

863
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: they can be. I think that's the relative expectation because,

864
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: like I wanted to ask you this rest of season,

865
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: Uri pez Orjesus Lozardo, oh Man and LAZARDA has just

866
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: gotten smacked around his last couple.

867
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: The worry for me with Blizardo is that you don't

868
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: usually see a picture of that caliber get absolutely lit

869
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: on fire twice in a row. You will Steve everybody

870
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: get blown up here and there. But twelve and eight

871
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: earned runs and consecutive outings leads me to think there's

872
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: something injury related going on potentially, and I've been waiting

873
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: for some kind of move. He's still scheduled to start

874
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: against the Cubs on Wednesday, and waiting for some kind

875
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: of move, But it looks like they're going to send

876
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: him out there so they think he's healthy. Then I'm

877
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: willing to buy into that. Afhillies are kind of an

878
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: interesting team with health sometimes, but I'm willing to buy

879
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: into it, and I think I would take Lozardo still,

880
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: he's been so so good. I mean, this wouldn't have

881
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: even been a question a week ago. We would have

882
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: all taken Lozardo pretty easily. And I think the two

883
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: starts are concerning, But there are also concerns, like I

884
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: laid out with Perez, the wins are not going to

885
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: be there, the command might be kind of shaky, you

886
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: might be looking at some rough whips. So I think

887
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: it would be Lozardo. I wouldn't fault anybody for wanting

888
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: to take a chance on Uri, but I don't think

889
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: we should give up on Lazardo after what we've seen either.

890
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: I do think Lozardo has the advantage, like the team context.

891
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of there's gonna be run support.

892
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: There's wins support there that's not going to be there

893
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: with the Marlins. We also think there's probably gonna be

894
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: some type of a cap. But I do think that

895
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: Uri Perez can toe the line of a top thirty

896
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: sp So with that question, I think you inherently kind

897
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 2: of have to say Lizarda right now, but I think

898
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: it's a very thin line. I think one more, I

899
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: think public sentiment deteriorates if Lozardo gets lit up again

900
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: and if Ury does go out and he goes let's

901
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: say five inning, six strikeouts, gives up one in and

902
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: run and eighty two pitches, I think like people are

903
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: gonna be like, hey, we're back, We're back on Uri Prez.

904
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: The thing with Uri too, is that the matchups this

905
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: week are at Pittsburgh and at Washington, So you couldn't

906
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: get more of a cupcake to start in your return.

907
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: So if he really does well in these two matchups,

908
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: then I would I would look to see what people

909
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: are willing to offer you, all right.

910
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: Final one, George Kirby absolutely lit it up this weekend.

911
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: Fourteen strikeouts after coming off of the IL and some

912
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: questionable results, just look dominant, really kind of lowered his

913
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: splitter percentage. It was just to me, I've been liking

914
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: it as like he just got back to basics basketball

915
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: sinker slider, got it done, got his whiffs, bunch of strikes.

916
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: The first question, really quick is do you think Kirby

917
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: is all the way back or roughly all the way back?

918
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: Did that outing give you the confirmation you needed to say, oh,

919
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: we're back in the George Kirby business.

920
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: It did, especially because the Angels have been good offensively lately.

921
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: They've been like a top five or seven team over

922
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: the last three weeks. With Trout coming back, Joe Dell's

923
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: been doing good things. So it's not like this came

924
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: against the Rockies when you'd have to maybe give it

925
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a second thought. But I

926
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: think Kirby is all the way back. That game against

927
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: Washington where he allowed three home runs is the big stinker.

928
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Other than that, I've liked what I've seen from him.

929
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: Okay. Then this leads to the question George Kirby or

930
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 2: Spencer Streider rest of season? As Stryder hit a second

931
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: all time low on his fastball, his average v low

932
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: is down. He's fastball slider stuff plus numbers kind of famously.

933
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: Now if you go over to Fangrafts you can check

934
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: out the stuff plus numbers are down. It's very short

935
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: sample sizes and whatnot. But Spencer trying to find himself.

936
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: Who would you rather rest of season? George Kirby or

937
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: Spencer Strider.

938
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: I think I would go with Kirby at this point,

939
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm pretty worried about Strider. He's been really bad. The

940
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: numbers below the surface are bad too. It's not like

941
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: he has a huge era and all the estimators are

942
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: good and everything like, No, there are a lot of concerns.

943
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: He's not striking guys out. The velocity is not where

944
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: it once was. The team is a joke. The Braves

945
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: are absolutely miserable this season. There's not a lot going

946
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: for Strider right now. I think that he is somebody

947
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: that you should look into trading. I'm kind of concerned here.

948
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: Five game started, five losses, strikeouts aren't there, tons of walks?

949
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 1: Nothing good, at least with Kirby. I have been even

950
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: before this start a little bit encouraged, like the home

951
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: run to fly ball rate. The homer per nine was

952
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: really out of kewe just because of that one start.

953
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: But the strikeouts are up for Kirby twenty eight percent

954
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: strikeout right. The command has been there, the team has

955
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: been very good. He has a better home park to

956
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: pitch in. I think Kirby is the same for play

957
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: at this point. I do too.

958
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: I'm super torn on where and how I want to

959
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: feel about Strider. I don't want to be I don't

960
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 2: want to be a massive alarmist where it's like, oh

961
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: my god, he's got to get out of here, like

962
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: he's too talented. We've seen him be, you know, one

963
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: of the premier strikeout pitchroll, freaking bulldog on the mound.

964
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: But there's something off. And it's not just the vlos down,

965
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: it's the stuff doesn't look as good. And then on

966
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: top of it, you're just this like two pitch pitcher,

967
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: you know, you don't have anything else really to rely on,

968
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: you know. And interesting enough, we saw what did de

969
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: Grom do earlier in the year. He leaned more what

970
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: was it on his change up, you know, more than

971
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: he had in quite some time, and maybe that kind

972
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: of helped him kind of get right reset the fastball.

973
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: Strider just doesn't do that, really, and I worry about that.

974
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 2: I do think he's so talented that if the sentiment

975
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: is so low, you could buy on him. But if

976
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: we are in a world where you can still compare

977
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: Strider and Kirby, I'm going to take Kirby like hands down.

978
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: It's a big command guy. I think that's the way

979
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: I want to go, and I would consolidate. So I

980
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 2: think there's a b in a cell argument on both

981
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: sides of Strider. But I also feel that I think

982
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: Kirby's back. I don't like that he tinkers too much.

983
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't tinker go crazy, Tinker, Taylor whatever, Soldier.

984
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: But I want George Kirby to be the Kirby that

985
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: we know, and I'm going to bank on it, and

986
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: we're both gonna take Kirby over Strider. There you go,

987
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: didn ex.

988
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with Strider. For me, I think I'm

989
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: just gonna buy the dip next year. I think this

990
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: year is kind of I wouldn't call it a lost season.

991
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: There's still a lot of games left to play, but

992
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: I feel like the production is gonna end up even

993
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: if he really writes the ship. Rest of season. Projections

994
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: at Fangrafts have him going like the bat projection rest

995
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: of the season as a three eighty seven era. You

996
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: tack that onto his five forty. Right now, we're ending

997
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: up in the fours, and I think next year will

998
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: be a good chance to buy the dip on him,

999
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: more so than he's a great by low opportunity in

1000
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: redraft right now.

1001
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you're in a dynasty league, like

1002
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: you're saying, go buying him right now, you can buy

1003
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: in him my dynasty for next year. If you're out

1004
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: of it because you're going to be buying low on him.

1005
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: So I think I'm in agreen on that side. Friends,

1006
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,200
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