Speaker 1: Politicians getting murdered, parades going on in the nation's capital,
Speaker 1: protests going on all across the country. And meanwhile there's
Speaker 1: still an NBA Finals going on, and Ice Q with
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Speaker 2: I got a lot of stuff to get.
Speaker 1: Into, and of course I'm gonna get to the NBA
Speaker 1: Finals a little bit later on and tell you who's
Speaker 1: gonna win Game five tonight, because this series is unfolding
Speaker 1: and it's turning out to be a doozy, make no
Speaker 1: mistake about that. But there's more serious issues to get
Speaker 1: into before I get into any of that.
Speaker 2: So let's get started in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Where there were two shootings, both of which appeared to
Speaker 1: have been politically motivated by a man arrested late last night.
Speaker 1: Officials said the gunman, posing as a police offer fatally
Speaker 1: shot State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband's Saturday at
Speaker 1: their home.
Speaker 2: That shooting came.
Speaker 1: After he wounded State Senator John Hoffman and his wife
Speaker 1: at their home. After the first attack, police said they
Speaker 1: proactively checked on Representative Hortman's home, where they found a
Speaker 1: shooter posing as an.
Speaker 2: Officer before he fled.
Speaker 1: The suspect, Vance Bolter is his name, was arrested Sunday
Speaker 1: after what a local police chief called the.
Speaker 2: Largest man hunt in state's history.
Speaker 1: Bolter is charged with two counts each of second degree
Speaker 1: murder and second degree attempted murder, which are likely to
Speaker 1: be upgraded at first degree. Boltter is also being charged
Speaker 1: in federal court with one count of stalking Representative Hortman,
Speaker 1: one count of stalking Senator Hoffman, two counts of murder
Speaker 1: through use of a firearm punishable up to death by
Speaker 1: the way, and two counts of firearms offenses for the
Speaker 1: shootings of the Hoffman's The shootings happened Saturday, in what
Speaker 1: turned out to be a tense day in national politics.
Speaker 1: Thousands of people across the country participated in No King's
Speaker 1: protest against the Trump administration. All this while the president
Speaker 1: himself hosted a military parade celebrating two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: years of the Army in Washington, d C. Couple of
Speaker 1: things to get out of the way. Number One, my
Speaker 1: condolences are to love the ones of the Hortman's. Obviously,
Speaker 1: that as a tragedy and unspeakable tragedy, something none of
Speaker 1: us should condone. We should cheer, we should celebrate in
Speaker 1: any way. It's heinous as it comes. As far as
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, if this is indeed the assailant, the one
Speaker 1: who committed this crime, mister Boltter, I have no problem
Speaker 1: with him receiving the death penalty whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Let's get that out of the way first.
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in that under special circumstances, this is
Speaker 1: one of them, he should be put to death. As
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, I have no problem with that.
Speaker 1: That's number one.
Speaker 2: Number Two, obviously to the Hoffman's.
Speaker 1: I hope that they end up recovering and they'll be well,
Speaker 1: as they'll end up well and they'll recuperate as well.
Speaker 1: So my heart goes out to them and what they've
Speaker 1: had to endure and experience, and the violence and the rhetoric.
Speaker 2: This is not isolated along party lines.
Speaker 1: Both sides of the political eye has engaged in rhetoric
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say stirring or inciting violence, but certainly
Speaker 1: the rhetoric has been harsh. And this is what I
Speaker 1: try to tell people in America all the time and
Speaker 1: beyond when we're talking.
Speaker 2: About these issues.
Speaker 1: I cover sports for a living as my day job.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, people get passionate about sports. If people
Speaker 1: get passionate about a game where folks win and folks lose,
Speaker 1: even when they're not gambling on it, they're not losing
Speaker 1: money on it, They're just emotionally invested in their particular
Speaker 1: team and the outcome. What do you think they feel
Speaker 1: about the economy if it detrimentally affects them.
Speaker 2: What do you think they're thinking.
Speaker 1: About representatives when it involves immigration, when it involves healthcare,
Speaker 1: what it involves education. You're talking about people's lives, quality
Speaker 1: of life being impacted by elected officials. This is why
Speaker 1: I continuously point out how the rhetoric has to die down.
Speaker 2: We got to agree to disagree.
Speaker 1: We can disagree without being so disagreeable, without engaging in
Speaker 1: a kind of incendiary rhetoric where we're constantly pointing a
Speaker 1: figure at one side or another, showing an inability to
Speaker 1: work together or at least giving that impression and then
Speaker 1: wondering how stuff like this could happen.
Speaker 2: According to the police, and according.
Speaker 1: To the reports, mister Boulter had a manifesto in a
Speaker 1: vehicle that he was driving by the way, which was
Speaker 1: disguised as a police vehicle, and he had on a
Speaker 1: police outfit, according to the reports, And they said in
Speaker 1: a manifesto he had targeted over seventy people.
Speaker 2: Some were politicians, some were pro abortion advocates. So you
Speaker 2: have to take those things into consideration.
Speaker 1: And wonder, in God's name, what do you think is
Speaker 1: going to happen if you're talking about people like that
Speaker 1: and you're pointing a finger of blaming and you're not
Speaker 1: giving the impression. We're discussing when negotiating, we're getting along.
Speaker 1: Everybody can't have everything that they want, but we're aligned
Speaker 1: in some of our thinking. Half the time they agreeing
Speaker 1: with one another on both sides of the hole. They
Speaker 1: don't even tell us. And then you wonder how you
Speaker 1: have some people on the fringes, particularly the extremists, and
Speaker 1: what they're going to do. What are the things that
Speaker 1: somebody pointed out and they pointed this out, and I
Speaker 1: had to remember this. One person text me. They said,
Speaker 1: did you see the expression on a god's face when
Speaker 1: they caught him talking about Bolter? They said, did you
Speaker 1: see the facial expression on the guy who shot up.
Speaker 2: The embassy weeks ago?
Speaker 1: Did you see the god's face who shot up the healthcare?
Speaker 2: Who shot the healthcare ceo Luigi? When they caught him,
Speaker 2: They said, did you see how extremists looks? Stephen A calm?
Speaker 3: Calm?
Speaker 1: So we have to fight extremism. We have to fight
Speaker 1: stuff on the fringes, on both sides of the aisle.
Speaker 1: We have to make sure that there's a line that
Speaker 1: everybody knows should never be crossed. Yes, it's happened throughout history.
Speaker 1: President Reagan got shot, Abraham Lincoln got shot. Folks in
Speaker 1: between got shot.
Speaker 2: We got that part.
Speaker 1: Steve kaliz representative, he got shot, all of these things.
Speaker 1: The former representative of Arizona, she got shot. The point
Speaker 1: is not normalizing, it, not walking around like it's okay
Speaker 1: now as it pertains to what's been going on in
Speaker 1: the streets of America. We're talking about Trump and the
Speaker 1: Trump administration celebrating two hundred.
Speaker 2: And fifty years of the Army.
Speaker 1: Perfectly within his right to do so, But let's be real,
Speaker 1: it was a bit over the top.
Speaker 2: Showing America's might.
Speaker 1: In America's strength, well, if we know we have it,
Speaker 1: why do we need to show off. We're considered the
Speaker 1: richest most powerful country in the world, right, everybody know,
Speaker 1: everybody knows.
Speaker 2: Our military might. Why do we need to showcase it?
Speaker 1: And why did it have to coincide on the seventy
Speaker 1: ninth birthday of the forty seventh President of the United States?
Speaker 1: Was it about our nation or was it about him?
Speaker 1: No matter how much he tried to say it wasn't.
Speaker 1: The flip side to it, however, is that on a
Speaker 1: day when that parade was taking place, there were thousands
Speaker 1: upon thousands of protesters across the United States of America,
Speaker 1: New York, LA, and every place in between.
Speaker 2: And it was supposed to be in Minnesota until.
Speaker 1: The police was asking folks not to attend because the
Speaker 1: shooter was still on the loose.
Speaker 2: And what were they protesting? Ice and migrants.
Speaker 1: Being grabbed in the streets by members of ICE in
Speaker 1: an effort to ultimately deport them, and.
Speaker 2: Folks were coming to the defense of it.
Speaker 1: You had the state of California suing the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: You have people talking about no kings, no kings. He's
Speaker 1: not a dictator. This is not an authoritarian regime. But
Speaker 1: that's why he's trying to make it like, well, really,
Speaker 1: that's why the state's suing him. That's why he's losing
Speaker 1: some of these cases in court. Last time I check.
Speaker 1: You're in a position of power, you try to get
Speaker 1: your way, somebody sues you. They fend you off by
Speaker 1: going through our court system. The court system makes it ruling,
Speaker 1: and as a result, it shows that our system works.
Speaker 1: What is Trump doing differently than what he campaigned doing.
Speaker 1: May not like it. That's why you win the election.
Speaker 1: So he's not in a position to do it as
Speaker 1: opposed to focusing on stuff that ain't gonna win an election.
Speaker 1: And then I talk to some folks on that side
Speaker 1: of the aisle, and these are the kind of messages
Speaker 1: that I'm getting. It's the Democrats only way to be relevant.
Speaker 1: They have no answers to help Americans. They don't go
Speaker 1: over the top four American criminals. Our prisons are full
Speaker 1: of people separated.
Speaker 2: From their families.
Speaker 1: They didn't say anything about those folks. Most of the
Speaker 1: leaders of the protest are paid agitators. You get into
Speaker 1: d Iran is rarely conflict something else that the United
Speaker 1: States can end up in the middle of because Israel
Speaker 1: ain't playing games. They're going after all of their enemies.
Speaker 1: They're not playing games. We already seen what they've done
Speaker 1: in Gaza. We know how they're trying to disarm Iran's
Speaker 1: ability to build a nuclear.
Speaker 2: Weapon, and they're hell been on doing so.
Speaker 1: We know that we were in negotiations with Iran and
Speaker 1: ultimately we scaled that back, and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden Israel attacks.
Speaker 2: Now you've got.
Speaker 1: Officials from Iran saying there's no reason to have talks
Speaker 1: because there's no way that America didn't know about this
Speaker 1: and that this was coming, etc. With all of that
Speaker 1: going on, then you have folks on the right saying,
Speaker 1: what's new. Destroying Iran's and military nuclear sites is a
Speaker 1: good thing. We'll also destroy destroy Hesbalah and hamas isis
Speaker 1: as well, being that they were funded by Iran. So
Speaker 1: every time you sit there you throw something in their direction,
Speaker 1: the other side has something to say no matter which
Speaker 1: way you slice it. In the end, America is in
Speaker 1: a quadary. At some point in time, gonna have to
Speaker 1: come together. You don't have to like everything about Trump.
Speaker 1: I don't like what he's doing in California. I don't
Speaker 1: like what he's doing with the migrants. I don't like
Speaker 1: it at all. And I don't and I think that
Speaker 1: he caught himself because he mandated a pause on the
Speaker 1: raids when it came to agriculture, hotels, restaurants, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Because those business were being detrimentally affected, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: need those folks supporting him, particularly in the midterms. So
Speaker 1: you can make sure the GLP members remember it remaining
Speaker 1: in the House, in the Senate. But in the end,
Speaker 1: what it comes down to is that is he overstepping
Speaker 1: his hand. Probably so, But to the right, he's doing
Speaker 1: what he campaigned on, so in their eyes, he's keeping
Speaker 1: his word. They don't mind that because they don't believe
Speaker 1: politicians on the left have done that. No matter which
Speaker 1: way you slice it, it's an absolute mess. We got
Speaker 1: Israel and Iran going at it over two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty missiles being dropped on one another. We still got
Speaker 1: the conflict with Hamas and the Gaza in the Gaza Strip.
Speaker 2: We still see that going on. We got a terriff
Speaker 2: situation here.
Speaker 1: You know what folks are gonna say, right, the right
Speaker 1: terrors ten trillion in investments for manufacturing in orto pharmaceuticals
Speaker 1: and semiconductors, That's what they're gonna say. They're gonna say,
Speaker 1: already a new threat about to be finished for our lifetime.
Speaker 1: Save us from a modern day holocaust, That's what they're
Speaker 1: gonna say. Whatever point the left is gonna have, the
Speaker 1: right is gonna have a counterpoint to justify anything that
Speaker 1: Trump is doing. Where's the solution? Can't see one in sight.
Speaker 1: Here's the biggest problem. Piece is not a part of
Speaker 1: this equation. Even within our own borders. We're at each
Speaker 1: other's throat, no sight of coming together in sight. It's
Speaker 1: pretty bad right now, and it looks to be getting worse.
Speaker 1: This looks to be getting worse. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens coming up. Don't look now.
Speaker 2: But Season eight of the Big Three tipped off this
Speaker 2: weekend with some fireworks.
Speaker 1: I've got ice Cube in the house to talk about
Speaker 1: that and other things as well. But first, the Minnesota shootings,
Speaker 1: no King's protests, and the President celebrates two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty years of the Army on his birthday this weekend.
Speaker 1: I can only think of one person to talk about
Speaker 1: all of this and break stuff into.
Speaker 2: Some kind of perspective.
Speaker 1: Somebody that knows the president pretty well. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the one and only Bill O Rolly. He's up next
Speaker 1: right here on the Stephnise Smith Show. Don't go away,
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Speaker 1: Center tonight for Game five. So I'll give you my
Speaker 1: picks for Game five tonight. First up, well, and you
Speaker 1: Nemhard score more or less than ten and.
Speaker 2: A half points. I'm gonna go with more.
Speaker 1: I think the opportunity is gonna be there for him
Speaker 1: to put up some points. I don't think ten and
Speaker 1: a half points is a lot for this particular player.
Speaker 1: I think he could do that. I think he will.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with more on this one. Next up,
Speaker 1: will Miles Turner score more or less than thirteen.
Speaker 2: And a half points? I'm gonna go with less.
Speaker 1: The other day, Miles Turner made it in packed defensively
Speaker 1: and what have you. But offensively, he looked a bit hesitant.
Speaker 2: He looked a bit.
Speaker 1: Scared to try to make things happen. He's not looking
Speaker 1: to be aggressive. And I don't know if you fix
Speaker 1: that in game five when you just struggle with it
Speaker 1: in gave four to the NBA Finals. Might be a
Speaker 1: little bit too late for that. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: less for this on Miles Turn in this particular game on.
Speaker 2: The road in Oka, see for game five.
Speaker 1: Next up with chet Holmgren scored more or less than
Speaker 1: fifteen and a half points. I think he's gonna score less.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna blog shots. I think he's gonna rebound.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make his presence felt. But I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be on the offensive.
Speaker 2: Side of the ball. I think Indiana will be ready
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: I think guys like Jalen Williams and Caruso and others
Speaker 1: are gonna have to step up. I don't think you
Speaker 1: can rely on Cheded Holmgren to score more than fifteen
Speaker 1: and a half points. When a brother's shooting nine percent
Speaker 1: from three point range, I'm sorry, I can't give him that. Finally, well,
Speaker 1: Alex Caruso scored more or less than ten and a
Speaker 1: half points. I'm gonna go with more because Alex Caruso.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell y'all something. If it wasn't for Shae
Speaker 1: Gilgess Alexander performing the way that he did, if Oklahoma
Speaker 1: would have win these finals, the MVP would be a
Speaker 1: toss up between Jalen Williams and Alex Caruso because Alex
Speaker 1: Caruso's play on both sides of the ball has been very,
Speaker 1: very impressive. One minute he's scoring twenty, another minute he's
Speaker 1: hit threes. Another minute he's guarding Pascal Siakam, another minute
Speaker 1: he's guarding somebody like a Tyrese Haliburton and somebody else.
Speaker 1: The brother's all over the place, and he's the one
Speaker 1: reliable component coming off of Indiana's bench.
Speaker 2: Everybody else has been a bit haphazard.
Speaker 1: You don't know what you're gonna get from them from
Speaker 1: game to game. That is not the case with Caruso.
Speaker 1: He has been missed, a reliable got a lot of
Speaker 1: love for Caruso on what we've been seeing him do,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go with more on that. So that's
Speaker 1: more for Andrew Nemhart, less for Miles Turner, Okay, less
Speaker 1: for Cheded Holmgren, and more for Alex Caruso. So that's
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Speaker 1: Joining me now is a conservative political commentator, actually a
Speaker 1: registered independent. He's also a best selling author and obviously
Speaker 1: an elite television personality. He's been around a long time.
Speaker 1: He knows what the hell is going on. He is
Speaker 1: the one and only mister Bill O'Reilly, Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the Stephen A. Smith Show. Sir, how you doing?
Speaker 2: How's everything you know?
Speaker 4: I don't know why I'm doing this, but everything else
Speaker 4: is fine.
Speaker 1: What do you mean you don't know why you're doing this?
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're on with your young buddy right here.
Speaker 1: That's why you're doing this, Bill, because I had to
Speaker 1: have you on the show because I wonder what the
Speaker 1: hell is going on? Man, I got we got parades
Speaker 1: in the nation's capital while protests are going on all.
Speaker 2: Over the country.
Speaker 1: These No King protest that's been taking place all over
Speaker 1: the United States of America opposing what Donald Trump is doing.
Speaker 1: In your words, Bill O'Reilly, could you explain to everybody
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on with the Trump.
Speaker 2: Administration in America right now?
Speaker 4: Yes, I can't, Stephen A. And that's why you're having
Speaker 4: me on for clarity of thought? Okay, so on Bill
Speaker 4: O'Reilly dot com. I write a message every day. Everybody
Speaker 4: can read it. You don't have to join up. All
Speaker 4: you have to do is want a perspective. Eighty million
Speaker 4: people voted for Donald Trump's seventy five million voted for
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris. I submit to you that about half of
Speaker 4: the Harris supporter is voted against Trump. They loathe him,
Speaker 4: and therefore the no King demonstrations we're no surprise to
Speaker 4: any of us who understand how much fury there is
Speaker 4: on the left that Donald Trumps president. Doesn't matter what
Speaker 4: he does. Could be immigration, could be Iran, could be Medicaid,
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. So when a mass demonstration is called for,
Speaker 4: you're going to get a pretty good turnout.
Speaker 3: This was low in my estimation.
Speaker 4: Across the country. The two hundred They say two thousand protests,
Speaker 4: but there are really two hundred of note and there
Speaker 4: weren't that many people. But I wasn't surprised because the
Speaker 4: immigration is lighted a fuse that the left is just
Speaker 4: crazed about. So the no King stuff was predictable, didn't
Speaker 4: really amount too much. Now, the military thing was not
Speaker 4: well attended.
Speaker 3: But again that's predictable. It's Washington, d C.
Speaker 4: Three percent of voters in the district voted for Trump
Speaker 4: three percent, So yeah, they're not going to come out
Speaker 4: and wave at him on his birthday and say, yeah,
Speaker 4: we like all the tanks. So most of this stuff,
Speaker 4: it's whipped up by the media in the hysteria, but
Speaker 4: it's predictable.
Speaker 1: And I get where you're coming from that it's predictable.
Speaker 1: But in the same breath, don't you find yourself wishing
Speaker 1: I don't want to act like optics of everything. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: You know, You've got a situation where you have.
Speaker 1: This parade going on to celebrating the two hundred fifty
Speaker 1: anniversary of the army and what have you. It coincides
Speaker 1: with his seventy ninth birthday, and it's in the midst
Speaker 1: of these riots taking place across.
Speaker 2: The United States of America. In one way, you're looking
Speaker 2: at it and you're saying, Okay, it appears to be
Speaker 2: much ado about nothing. It's just typical people who are
Speaker 2: against him and against his policies, against the administration. They're
Speaker 2: going to protest.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, it seems like he's feeding it
Speaker 1: as a distractionary measure because of some of the other
Speaker 1: things that aren't necessarily working. Whether it's the tariffs in
Speaker 1: some people's eyes, whether it's some of this stuff going
Speaker 1: on with Ice in Los Angeles and beyond, whether it's
Speaker 1: the war Ukraine with Russia, Israel and Iran right now,
Speaker 1: Israel and a mos before, some of the things that
Speaker 1: he thought would work that he swore he would resolve.
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily what the American people are seeing right now. Bill,
Speaker 1: What do you say to that that this is basically
Speaker 1: an evasive or distractionary tactic.
Speaker 2: Half of the.
Speaker 4: Present about it, I see it that way. It's celebratory.
Speaker 4: Trump wants to celebrate his position, and.
Speaker 3: So he uses his power to do that.
Speaker 4: The one thing that Trump has calculated that it's obvious
Speaker 4: and still vexing him is Ukraine. So he said on
Speaker 4: day one, I'll solve it, and it would have happened
Speaker 4: if I were president. Well, that's proved very, very difficult
Speaker 4: for him. But on all the other fronts, he believes
Speaker 4: the tariffs are going to heighten the economy. The initial
Speaker 4: numbers are good for Trump on that the Magabase supports
Speaker 4: the deportations. Although I have suggested that the Homeland Security
Speaker 4: opparatus have a fail safe, if you will, or a mechanism,
Speaker 4: that mechanism is probably better work to examine humane situations.
Speaker 4: So if you're swept up and you're not a criminal migrant,
Speaker 4: you're involved with a raid and they take you into custody,
Speaker 4: there should be a mechanism so that your situation would
Speaker 4: be examined by Homeland Security. Say you have three kids
Speaker 4: at home, all of whom are American citizens, but you're not.
Speaker 4: That would be under humane so they would let you
Speaker 4: out and not deport you. If Trump would do that,
Speaker 4: that would take a lot.
Speaker 3: Of the sting out of it.
Speaker 4: But you know, look, all I can do is suggest
Speaker 4: patterns of behavior that would be beneficial to the country,
Speaker 4: and I do. Whether he does them or not, that's
Speaker 4: up to him.
Speaker 2: How much does he listen to you these days? Bill O'Reilly?
Speaker 1: I mean listen when we did the you know, when
Speaker 1: we did our town hall on News Nation, Chris Cuomo,
Speaker 1: myself and you. There's no doubt that President Trump would
Speaker 1: not have called in if it were not for you.
Speaker 1: I've reported that on many many occasions. We all know
Speaker 1: how far your relationship goes back with them spanning thirty
Speaker 1: plus years, and I know that you would. Just recently,
Speaker 1: China asked you to come and see them and talk
Speaker 1: to them, and I'd like you to elaborate and enlighten
Speaker 1: my audience as to why that was.
Speaker 2: But clearly they feel and rightfully.
Speaker 1: So, that you have the ability, more so than most,
Speaker 1: to impact the thought process. Dare I say even the
Speaker 1: actions of the president from Tom to Todd because of
Speaker 1: his respect and this long time relationship with you, how
Speaker 1: much do you think he listens to you or anybody
Speaker 1: else in this day and age.
Speaker 4: Well, I think he trusts me because I'll never burn him.
Speaker 4: So if it's off the record, it's off the record.
Speaker 4: I talked to him frequently. I never call him. That's
Speaker 4: an intrusion. I'm a journalist, that's.
Speaker 3: Not my job. But when he.
Speaker 4: Gets in touch with me, I'm obviously respectful, as I
Speaker 4: was to Barack Obama, who did that as well.
Speaker 3: Not as much as Trump, but he did. George W.
Speaker 3: Bush did, And.
Speaker 4: I answer honestly so on the China situation, I was
Speaker 4: invited over there because they watch the Politburo watches me
Speaker 4: on YouTube exactly what we're doing now.
Speaker 3: The Chinese people can't see you too, by the way.
Speaker 4: They knock it out for but they watch and as
Speaker 4: you rightly assess, they know that I speak with Donald
Speaker 4: Trump a lot, so they wanted to know about him.
Speaker 4: And it was an off the record conversation. But I
Speaker 4: did tell the Pola Buro there were thirteen of them
Speaker 4: in the Q and A in Beijing, I'm gonna have
Speaker 4: to debrief the president when I get back, so I'm
Speaker 4: always up front, I like you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm up front.
Speaker 4: And they said, okay, you know, I said, I can't
Speaker 4: come over there and do a Q and A with
Speaker 4: you for now or in forty five minutes and not
Speaker 4: tell the President of the United States what it was about.
Speaker 4: You know, come on, I'll be deported myself. They'll deport
Speaker 4: me back to Ireland. So I got it, and I did,
Speaker 4: and then three days later there was a phone call
Speaker 4: with she So I could take credit for that, but
Speaker 4: I'm not going to. But I think that my conversation
Speaker 4: with the Chinese communists was beneficial.
Speaker 3: So I calmed them down in certain.
Speaker 4: Areas, and I illuminated the President's thinking process and others.
Speaker 3: So after the hour.
Speaker 4: Forty five minutes, they had a much better understanding of
Speaker 4: where Donald Trump is coming from. The second thing is
Speaker 4: we had dinner afterward, my son, myself, the man who
Speaker 4: put this together in Beijing, the richest man in China,
Speaker 4: and his assistant who was only supposed to be four
Speaker 4: but we were joined by the second most powerful man
Speaker 4: in the country for dinner, which was an amazing experience.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. My son's sitting there.
Speaker 4: He's twenty one years old and he's listening to the
Speaker 4: highest level of diplomacy there could possibly be in the
Speaker 4: biggest story in the world.
Speaker 3: China USA relations.
Speaker 4: Is the biggest story in the world by far, because
Speaker 4: if that doesn't work out, there's going to be beast trouble.
Speaker 4: If it does work out, if they follow my guidelines
Speaker 4: to a partnership for peace and prosperity, that's why I
Speaker 4: went over there to tell them what that was about,
Speaker 4: then the world will calm down and everyone will be
Speaker 4: better off. So there's my son, twenty one political science major,
Speaker 4: listening to his father at thirteen of the politic Memory.
Speaker 4: You can imagine that it's like being in nick locker
Speaker 4: room at halftime, I guess.
Speaker 5: But anyway.
Speaker 4: Look, I love my country. I try to do it's
Speaker 4: best as far as I see it. And I was
Speaker 4: stunned by this whole thing. I didn't solicit this.
Speaker 1: It came to me absolutely, And I know you tell
Speaker 1: them the truth about that shoot. I consider you an
Speaker 1: honest broker, regardless of how people try to attack you
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: You've always been a trade shoot with me.
Speaker 1: I've seen you talking to politicians on both sides of
Speaker 1: the isle, right in front of my face, getting on
Speaker 1: both of them like hell and fury for crowd out loud.
Speaker 1: So I've had an eyewitness account to that. But let
Speaker 1: me get back to you before I get back to
Speaker 1: the States. You said that when you were in China,
Speaker 1: you talked about your guidelines to peace and prosperity between
Speaker 1: themselves and the United States of America. Would you mind
Speaker 1: sharing with this audience what those guidelines were, some of
Speaker 1: those guidelines that you go down to them.
Speaker 4: So the past six months have been working on a
Speaker 4: policy call the Partnership for Peace and Prosperity between the
Speaker 4: United States of America and China. And essentially what it
Speaker 4: says is that the two greatest powers in the world
Speaker 4: are going to ally together to tamp down chaos and
Speaker 4: misbehavior all over the world. So we're gonna ally now,
Speaker 4: we're never going to agree with them about communism.
Speaker 3: And it's a police state.
Speaker 4: It's the most polic sophisticated police state in the history
Speaker 4: of mankind. It makes the Nazi regime look like benevolent people.
Speaker 4: That's how tight the Chinese communists are on their one
Speaker 4: point five billion people. Americans have no idea. You got
Speaker 4: to carry an ID card every second of your life
Speaker 4: in China. If you don't, you're in prison, if somebody
Speaker 4: stops you, and there are cops on every corner. And
Speaker 4: as for your idea, you're a Chinese citizen and you
Speaker 4: don't have it gone it is really unbelievable. So anyway,
Speaker 4: the Peace and Partnership Prosperity thing says that we're going
Speaker 4: to work it out. As far as trade will help
Speaker 4: China feed their one point five billion, they'll help us
Speaker 4: in our economy, and then we will hamp down crazy
Speaker 4: stuff like the Malas in Iran. So if China and
Speaker 4: the United States ally against the Mulas, they can't do anything.
Speaker 3: Same thing with Putin.
Speaker 4: If China were to say, hey, lad get out of there,
Speaker 4: or we're going to start to fund the Ukrainian government
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: A lot of it have to get out of there now.
Speaker 4: It's a matter of self interest, I understand, but I
Speaker 4: laid out a pretty solid case and I said, if
Speaker 4: that partnership comes, you're going to get a lot of benefit.
Speaker 4: The Chinese government will get a lot of economic benefit
Speaker 4: from it. So I'm hoping they consider it.
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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, run your game. You know I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: back to the States Because even.
Speaker 1: Though I know China and US relations is a huge,
Speaker 1: huge deal, no question about that, some of the immediate
Speaker 1: issues going on in this country obviously can't be ignored.
Speaker 1: The particular moment in time you saw, and you've saw that.
Speaker 1: You've been all over the news about the political shooting
Speaker 1: that took place this weekend. Fance Bolter was arrested as
Speaker 1: the suspected shooter of former Democratic House Speaker Melissa Hortman
Speaker 1: and her husband. He also critically wounded Senator John Hoffman
Speaker 1: and his wife, both out of Minnesota. Of course, he
Speaker 1: was captured late Sunday following a two day man hunt.
Speaker 1: Following the killing, Republican Utah Senator Mike Lee tweeted quote
Speaker 1: this is what happens when Marxists don't get their way.
Speaker 2: End quote. So Bill O.
Speaker 1: Raley, I ask you concerned at all that civility in
Speaker 1: America is going.
Speaker 2: You've been around a long time. You would know they
Speaker 2: answered to that question your thoughts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you keep saying I've been around a long time.
Speaker 4: It only goes back to us. Grant there, steven A. So,
Speaker 4: come on, foolish, foolish comment by Senator Lee, who's.
Speaker 3: Not a He's not a dumb man. He never should
Speaker 3: have made that comment.
Speaker 4: I've had political assassinations in this country forever, and so
Speaker 4: is every other country. And these are mentally unstable people
Speaker 4: that do it, all of them. You can trace every
Speaker 4: one of them back, and they're all loans. And that's
Speaker 4: what happened here. So to assign a Marxism to it,
Speaker 4: or a fascism to it, it's irresponsible. I don't traffic
Speaker 4: in that. I traffic in history. Never going to stop it.
Speaker 4: It's impossible in a free society. Even in China, as
Speaker 4: crazy as they control those people, you couldn't stop it.
Speaker 4: If somebody wanted to kill you and was stalking you,
Speaker 4: the odds are they be able to get to you?
Speaker 4: If you weren't putin or she we have unbelievable security,
Speaker 4: So there's nothing other than lamenting the situation. There's no
Speaker 4: solution to the situation. You're always going to have mentally
Speaker 4: on stable people who are violent and that's that. And
Speaker 4: you know, if I had a solution, I would put
Speaker 4: it forth, but I don't.
Speaker 1: Does it the rhetoric amongst politicians going back and forth,
Speaker 1: Although you're right, history has shown us these kind of
Speaker 1: things happen. There's always folks on the fringes. There's always
Speaker 1: extremism that takes place within every nation. This is not
Speaker 1: going to be any different, doesn't some of the rhetoric
Speaker 1: on a part of politicians or both sides of the isle.
Speaker 1: One could easily argue that contributes to some of this Bill.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: John James Garfield was assassinated, and he was he's still
Speaker 4: bomb thrower.
Speaker 3: You know, McKinley assassinated.
Speaker 4: In our polarized society with an irresponsible media, grossly irresponsible media,
Speaker 4: it's easier to incite, but I don't think it's easier
Speaker 4: to incite to murder, right homicide and with us. I
Speaker 4: wrote a book and it'll be out September ninth, called
Speaker 4: confronting evil homicide. Have been with it since Cain and
Speaker 4: Abel in the Bible. I mean, it's just their part
Speaker 4: of mankind.
Speaker 3: So I don't attribute.
Speaker 4: I don't say, look, if we're all nicer to each other,
Speaker 4: or do we have less violence? I don't believe that
Speaker 4: to be true.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, I mean, I guess I'm
Speaker 1: looking at it and I'm seeing these no King protests?
Speaker 1: Do you think that that's legitimate? Is it much ado
Speaker 1: about nothing? Are the folks on the left just using
Speaker 1: this as an opportunity to play soil loser because they
Speaker 1: lost the election to Trump and that's what this is about.
Speaker 1: Or do you think the arguments on a part of
Speaker 1: the left with the No Kings protest and beyond, do
Speaker 1: you think there's some legitimacy to that based on what
Speaker 1: we've seen from the Trump administration since he's been back
Speaker 1: in North January twenty.
Speaker 4: First, I think that protests are legitimate, and I applaud
Speaker 4: honest Americans who want to protest things they don't like.
Speaker 4: I think descent is a very important part of our
Speaker 4: success in America. But I always go to this, all right,
Speaker 4: So you don't like the ice rays, because that's what
Speaker 4: this was really all about.
Speaker 3: It's no kings thing. So what's Plan B.
Speaker 4: You're down with the buy and open border, you support that,
Speaker 4: So what do you have? What's your plan to supervise
Speaker 4: fourteen million foreign nationals, ten percent of whom are violent?
Speaker 4: Because ten percent of every group is violent, So what's
Speaker 4: your plan to supervise these people?
Speaker 3: Then you get you.
Speaker 4: Know, it's okay to protest, but you've got to have
Speaker 4: something to fill the vacuum if you want to be
Speaker 4: taken seriously, right, But aren't.
Speaker 1: You concerned when he talks about immigrants or migrants and
Speaker 1: you murderers, rapists, this stuff like that, as if giving
Speaker 1: the impression that that's who he's targeting. When news came
Speaker 1: out just the other day that he pulled he pulled
Speaker 1: he put a pause on raids involving the agriculture, uh, hotels, restaurants,
Speaker 1: et cetera, because obviously it was affecting those businesses. Don't
Speaker 1: you get concerned about him or the administration putting out
Speaker 1: that kind of rhetoric, sort of castigating folks in that fashion.
Speaker 4: Well, look, you can, you can overdo the rhetoric. But
Speaker 4: he got elected on it. So, you know, people were
Speaker 4: tired of seeing innocent UH Americans murdered by Venezuelans and
Speaker 4: El Salvadorans and whatever. So Trump said, I'm going to
Speaker 4: clean it up, and that's why I won. That's exactly
Speaker 4: why he won. So now he's trying to clean it up.
Speaker 4: But as I said, he should have a you know,
Speaker 4: an apparatus to examine people who aren't in that category
Speaker 4: who get swept up in it. So, look, I want
Speaker 4: social order in this country, and I assure you do too.
Speaker 2: You can't have, yes, I do.
Speaker 4: You can't have fourteen million foreign nationals run around unsupervised.
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what the Democrats supported, exactly. We don't
Speaker 4: want to stop anybody. We don't want to supervise them.
Speaker 4: Anybody asked for asylum. Oh yeah, five years. We'll see
Speaker 4: you down the road. Maybe you show up, maybe you don't,
Speaker 4: but we don't really care whether you do or not. Hey,
Speaker 4: that's the height of irresponsibility. We're paying for that for
Speaker 4: the next twenty years. And I mean that Biden open
Speaker 4: border was the worst policy decision in history by a
Speaker 4: sitting president, the worst because it caused so much damage.
Speaker 1: Why do you think Biden made that decision. And the
Speaker 1: reason I asked that question Bill O.
Speaker 2: Raley.
Speaker 1: It might be a rhetorical question, might be a bit old,
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking about how President Obama was called the
Speaker 1: deporter in chief because he had deported at the time
Speaker 1: even more people than Trump had deported.
Speaker 2: Biden was his vice president.
Speaker 1: How do you ultimately become the president four years after
Speaker 1: Obama has left office and you implement a policy that
Speaker 1: was the complete, completely antithetical to anything that Obama stood for.
Speaker 2: That made no sense to me. Do you have an
Speaker 2: answer to that question?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: I don't think Biden was in control of his faculties
Speaker 4: ever in his four years. I think he was diminished
Speaker 4: when he walked in he took the inaugural oath. I
Speaker 4: think his far left cadre who surrounded him in the
Speaker 4: White House, led by Ron Klaine, put a bunch of
Speaker 4: paper in front of him and he signed it and
Speaker 4: didn't know what he was doing or the unintended consequences
Speaker 4: that would stem from it. Look, I'll give you a
Speaker 4: really vivid example of Joe Biden. This man, for his
Speaker 4: entire career used his Catholicism as a campaign item. You
Speaker 4: remember that right, Yes, Joe goes to mass, Joe receives communion.
Speaker 4: Joe's a good Catholic, Irish Catholic from Scranton, Okay.
Speaker 3: While his president he comes out.
Speaker 4: To support abortion without any limits, what so ever? No
Speaker 4: limits the Hillary Clinton position, okay, the most extreme position
Speaker 4: on abortion you could take.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden takes it and promotes it.
Speaker 4: A good Catholic is excommunicated by doing that. However, there
Speaker 4: wasn't one Catholic bishop or the pope okay, who suggested
Speaker 4: the excommunication route for Biden because they were afraid to
Speaker 4: do it. One bishop in Virginia denied him communion.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: Now, how can a man who professes to be an
Speaker 4: Irish Catholic promote unlimited abortion?
Speaker 3: Do you have an answer to that question?
Speaker 1: I have no answer to that question. Is inexcusable because
Speaker 1: it goes against that.
Speaker 2: God know would say.
Speaker 4: That that's the key to analyzing Biden right there. No
Speaker 4: one can answer the question because there's no logic, okay,
Speaker 4: because he wasn't able mentally to make those kinds of calculations.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, and you will see coming forth proof
Speaker 4: of how diminished that man was from day one.
Speaker 1: See that's the argument that folks on the right would
Speaker 1: say as well.
Speaker 2: And I get that part.
Speaker 1: And then when we look at the left protesting Trump
Speaker 1: in this day and age to the right, it will
Speaker 1: fall on death is because everybody's quick to look at
Speaker 1: the body and administration, the policies they put forth, how
Speaker 1: it was supported, whether directly or through one silence on
Speaker 1: the left, and as a result, they tried to basically
Speaker 1: finego their way through the administration, you know, through his tenure,
Speaker 1: and ultimately assist Kamala Harrison taking office. And so when
Speaker 1: I see these no Kings protests and everybody complaining about Trump,
Speaker 1: that's one way that it's going to be dismissed from
Speaker 1: the right, But where it will be embraced by centrists
Speaker 1: and folks on the left. Bill Rally, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: is that I'm thinking about Iran. With Israel, you have
Speaker 1: people thinking about that, Yeah, we can end their new
Speaker 1: program and as a result, they won't be a nuclear
Speaker 1: threat and we don't have to worry about a holocaust.
Speaker 2: Down the line at least on that end. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: what that's a plus.
Speaker 1: They're talking about the terroriffs, they're saying, you got pledges
Speaker 1: but where's the real production. What has really really happened
Speaker 1: with that regard You talked about the war with Ukraine
Speaker 1: and Russia that hasn't been resolved. There's still hostages with
Speaker 1: a massa, and folks are alluding to genocide taking place
Speaker 1: in a gaza stripped because of net and Yahoo and
Speaker 1: some of the actions that he has taken to just
Speaker 1: completely obliterate a mosque has beligned everybody else in between.
Speaker 1: In the end, what it comes down to to me, Bill,
Speaker 1: is this, There's so much stuff going on with the
Speaker 1: Trump administration that's up in the air. The one finite
Speaker 1: thing you can point to is his position on immigration
Speaker 1: and the effect it has had, And to me, that
Speaker 1: seems to be his calling card. Let everybody lean towards
Speaker 1: that because that's a winnable argument in his eyes, where
Speaker 1: almost nothing else is to that kind of speculation or skepticism.
Speaker 2: You say, what as it pertains to the Trump administration.
Speaker 3: My thing that announces is a bit harsh.
Speaker 4: So number one, the tariffs and the economy. You've got
Speaker 4: to give it a little more time. So next week
Speaker 4: will be six months that Trump's been in office. It
Speaker 4: seems like six years, I know, but it's only six months,
Speaker 4: and to turn the entire industrial economy around in.
Speaker 3: His country kind of take a year or so. But
Speaker 3: it's trending in the right direction.
Speaker 4: Particularly if Trump and she can come to an economic deal,
Speaker 4: then all.
Speaker 3: The other deals will follow. And Donald Trump knows that. Okay.
Speaker 4: On the guaz afront, Trump has been a dove on that.
Speaker 4: He has done everything he can to try to get
Speaker 4: Hamas to release the hostages and take the pressure off
Speaker 4: so the Israeli army doesn't go in and continue.
Speaker 3: To pound the place.
Speaker 4: But the Hamas people will not do it, So you
Speaker 4: can't blame Trump for that. On Ukraine has given Putin
Speaker 4: every opportunity to be a human being. Unfortunately, Putin is psychotic.
Speaker 4: Putin is on the cover of my upcoming book, Confronting
Speaker 4: the Confronting Evil. Okay, he is not a person that
Speaker 4: you can deal with rationally. Trump thought he was because
Speaker 4: he had four years of Putin not really misbehaving in
Speaker 4: his first term. But now, for whatever reason, Putin's out
Speaker 4: of control.
Speaker 3: Can you get him back under control?
Speaker 4: Maybe, particularly if China would help, But right now that's
Speaker 4: a miscalculation. So I think that people who hate Trump,
Speaker 4: who say He's failing on every front. Aren't being fair?
Speaker 4: Need to let this unfold for a few more months.
Speaker 4: In March of twenty six, if the economy is wobbling
Speaker 4: and there's unrestled over the world, the Republicans are done
Speaker 4: in the midterms.
Speaker 2: They will lose.
Speaker 3: Trump knows that last couple of questions.
Speaker 2: So I'll let you get on out of here and
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time, real quick.
Speaker 1: Over the course of his presidency, President Trump released cryptocurrency
Speaker 1: gold sneakers and watchers, and now he's reportedly releasing the
Speaker 1: T one Trump smartphone with an unlimited plan price at
Speaker 1: forty seven dollars and forty five cents per month via
Speaker 1: AT and T, Verizon and T Mobile in August. That's
Speaker 1: being built in the United States. First of all, Bill O'Reilly?
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think about this? And secondly,
Speaker 1: are you getting one of these phones? I mean, or
Speaker 1: do you have a problem with the president monetizing the office?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I'm getting three of these phones, giving one to you
Speaker 4: for Christmas, one to Cuomo for Christmas?
Speaker 3: And look, do I approve of this?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Do I understand what's going on? Yes?
Speaker 4: So Jump doesn't have anything to do with the Trump
Speaker 4: organizations run by his two.
Speaker 3: Sons, Don Junior and Eric.
Speaker 4: They are lloyding the hell of their father's success for
Speaker 4: monetary gain. Now, all presidents do it to a certain extent.
Speaker 4: The Biden family did it with subterfuge. Remember that we
Speaker 4: didn't know what was going on and farign countries were involved.
Speaker 4: This is basically, hey, we're famous, my father's powerful, so
Speaker 4: you buy our phone.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Trump he doesn't have anything to do with that because
Speaker 4: he had to sign off for all his holdings to
Speaker 4: his son. I'm sure when he gets out of office
Speaker 4: he'll be back. But there's a private club in DC
Speaker 4: and it goes on.
Speaker 3: And on and on.
Speaker 4: But every single president, with the exception of Jimmy Carter
Speaker 4: and Ronald Reagan, wasn't too much because when Reagan left
Speaker 4: office he was in their throes of dementia. But every
Speaker 4: single other president capitalized monetarily on their position. Yeah, might
Speaker 4: Barack Obama gets for a speech, do you know how much? No,
Speaker 4: three hundred and fifty thousand, three five. He gets more
Speaker 4: than you get for a speech, David Ay. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'd be outrageouf five were you. But he gets more
Speaker 4: than you.
Speaker 5: Yet, so.
Speaker 3: That doesn't bother me in the sense.
Speaker 4: That I'm not a bad behavior point to other bad
Speaker 4: behavior kind of guy.
Speaker 3: But this is our system.
Speaker 4: We're capitalists here and the Trump people are exploiting their game.
Speaker 1: Last question, You know, Donald Trump is unapologetic about playing
Speaker 1: to his base.
Speaker 2: People will be quick to say he's doing what he
Speaker 2: promised he would do, et cetera. Do you think that's.
Speaker 1: Gonna be enough for the GOP to win the midterms?
Speaker 1: And do you think that's enough for the GOP to
Speaker 1: win the election in twenty twenty eight if he continues
Speaker 1: on the path that he is going on or does
Speaker 1: there need to be some alterations in your as far
Speaker 1: you can see.
Speaker 4: Well, if you base it on history, which I always do,
Speaker 4: the economy will tell who's going to win the midterms. So,
Speaker 4: as I said, the economy is rolling along next spring,
Speaker 4: Republicans will do very well because that it's everything to
Speaker 4: the American people. They are nervous, Lots of them don't
Speaker 4: have any money. They need the economy to be robust
Speaker 4: and will that far and away. You know, I say
Speaker 4: China USA is the biggest story in the world than
Speaker 4: it is, but for our electoral situation, the economy dominates.
Speaker 4: So Trump is a dice roller. He doesn't play it safe.
Speaker 4: He's going. He wants to be one of the greatest presidents.
Speaker 4: He wants to be on Mount Rushmore. He can't be
Speaker 4: on Mount Rushmore to buy his own mountain and put
Speaker 4: his face up there.
Speaker 3: But he wants to be one of the greatest.
Speaker 4: And he always because I wrote Confronting the presidenc he's
Speaker 4: always there.
Speaker 3: Where am I now? Where am I now? I go?
Speaker 3: It's still incomplete. Mister president.
Speaker 4: You had a good first term, and he did, but
Speaker 4: now a lot of turbulence. He goes, guy, it's gonna
Speaker 4: work out, and he believes it will work out perfectly.
Speaker 3: He believes it.
Speaker 4: There's no insecurity on his part. Okay, whether it will
Speaker 4: or not, of course, no one knows, but God.
Speaker 2: The one and only.
Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly appreciates you, my man, as always, Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for your time. Bill O'Reilly dot com best
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Speaker 1: my man.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Man, I talked to you sooner.
Speaker 3: Right, all right, good question, stephen A. Thanks for having
Speaker 3: me in.
Speaker 1: Well, you know the fact that you said it's good
Speaker 1: questions makes me feel good inside.
Speaker 2: It really really does. Bill. I know I'm gonna write track.
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Buddy, I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: You soon, all right, Coming up.
Speaker 2: I tubs in the house.
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Speaker 1: tell you something right now, this is a great NBA
Speaker 1: Finals series, and I think it's going seven games. I
Speaker 1: think Oklahoma's winnings Game five. I think the Pacers go
Speaker 1: home and win Game six, and I think we're right
Speaker 1: back here in Oklahoma City this Sunday night for Game
Speaker 1: seven to win with the championship on the line.
Speaker 2: That's what I think is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I've watched this team, the Oklahoma City Thunder, and as
Speaker 1: elite as they are defensively, which they showed in Game four,
Speaker 1: by the way, when they held when they went on
Speaker 1: a twelve to one run in the last two minutes
Speaker 1: and fifty eight seconds of regulation. Shay Gilges Alexander had
Speaker 1: to end up saving the day because this brother is
Speaker 1: something special and he brings it to the table, make
Speaker 1: no mistake about it.
Speaker 2: But it took that because.
Speaker 1: Offensively they're not what you would expect an elite team
Speaker 1: to be. As the game Wan's OKC struggles.
Speaker 2: That's a big problem. They struggled offensively.
Speaker 1: I also think that coach Dagnault made a huge mistake
Speaker 1: to start this NBA Finals series. They won sixty eight
Speaker 1: games during the regular season, they won twelve games in
Speaker 1: the playoffs.
Speaker 2: They came into the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1: With a record of eighty and eighteen this year, including
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And you alter your starting lineup before a
Speaker 1: game is played. Why why to me psychologically that kind
Speaker 1: of warped Isaiah Hartenstein and compromised Cheded Holgrin to a degree.
Speaker 1: Ched Holgern a nine percent from three point range. That
Speaker 1: ain't gonna cut it all right, He's not playing awful
Speaker 1: in other aspects, but he can't buy a three right now.
Speaker 1: So that's problematic for them. So we have to look
Speaker 1: at it from that standpoint and say, what the hell
Speaker 1: is that about? So we got to take that into consideration.
Speaker 1: Then we got to look at a guy like Jalen Williams,
Speaker 1: who's one of only two NBA players this year, him
Speaker 1: and Evan Mobley of the Cleveland Cavaliers who made an
Speaker 1: All NBA team and made an All NBA defensive team.
Speaker 1: Only two players did that this year. Jalen Williams was
Speaker 1: one of them. So the brother can play. We know
Speaker 1: he's getting to the hole and he's handling his business
Speaker 1: in that regard, but when it comes to shooting three points,
Speaker 1: he's shooting for twenty one percent. That ain't gonna cut
Speaker 1: it either. This is why Shay Gilgers Alexander has to
Speaker 1: come to the rescue. The most reliable weapon for Shae
Speaker 1: Gilgers Alexander throughout these playoffs has been Alex Caruso coming
Speaker 1: off the bench. Nobody else has been reliable or trustworthy.
Speaker 1: And even though lou Daughter's shooting the ball effectively is
Speaker 1: when it's open threes, when he's contested and you run
Speaker 1: him off the three point line, he's not doing much
Speaker 1: for you Offensively, Defensively, collective he brings it. They bring it,
Speaker 1: no doubt, but offensively they struggle. And Indiana can score
Speaker 1: offensively because you've got Halli Burton, You've got them hard,
Speaker 1: You've got Niece Smith, Miles Turner is struggling.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam's not. You look at Pascal Siakam along with
Speaker 1: those three dudes that I mentioned, along with an Obie
Speaker 1: top and coming off the bench, a Benedict Matherrin coming
Speaker 1: off the bench, even though Beneman matherm dropped twenty seven
Speaker 1: in Game three. Then turns around in Game four in
Speaker 1: the last closing minutes, mississ is three or four free
Speaker 1: throws and commits a foul off the Paul and the
Speaker 1: n's bounds play basically given OKC five points. So you
Speaker 1: look at it from that standpoint, Indiana can score, but
Speaker 1: they're prone to making mistakes.
Speaker 2: I think on the.
Speaker 1: Road in OKC four Game five, knowing that you don't
Speaker 1: need to go back to Indiana down three to two,
Speaker 1: I think OKAC handles their business and they win tonight
Speaker 1: in Game five.
Speaker 2: They go back Thursday to.
Speaker 1: Indy for Game six, where I think Indy should win
Speaker 1: that game, and then we come back here for Game seven.
Speaker 2: The Thunder six and OH and the Paces are five
Speaker 2: and oh after a loss.
Speaker 1: This entire postseason, none of them have lost two games
Speaker 1: in a row, and I think that's gonna remain the
Speaker 1: case in this series as well. We got a big
Speaker 1: time NBA Finals. I know it's two small markets OKCE
Speaker 1: in Indiana, but I gotta tell you, in terms of thrills,
Speaker 1: you couldn't ask for much better than.
Speaker 2: What these teams. That both these teams have given you.
Speaker 1: I'm picking o ok SEE to win Game five tonight.
Speaker 1: Let me transition since we're on the subject of basketball,
Speaker 1: I gotta get to my next guests.
Speaker 2: Because he is a multi.
Speaker 1: Hyphen it legendary rapper, actor and producer of some of
Speaker 1: our favorite films, an entrepreneurial, a founding member of the
Speaker 1: iconic rap collective NWA, and of course, the co founder
Speaker 1: of the Big Three Basketball League. We know him, we
Speaker 1: love him. You know who I'm talking about, the one
Speaker 1: to know the ice cubes in the house, My brother,
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 2: Welcome the show?
Speaker 5: All good man, good to be here.
Speaker 1: Thank you man, Please my pleasure. Now am I reading
Speaker 1: this correctly? Season eight of the Big Three tips off.
Speaker 1: The tipped off this weekend.
Speaker 5: Bro Season eight, he's an eight. You know, it's been
Speaker 5: it's been a nice long ride, but it's been a
Speaker 5: great ride. And you know, season eight that means, you know,
Speaker 5: the people really love the style of play, and they
Speaker 5: rewarding us with, you know, a little longevity here. So
Speaker 5: we're gonna keep it going.
Speaker 1: Express to everybody what your vision was when you first
Speaker 1: started this league and whether or not you believe that
Speaker 1: vision has become reality.
Speaker 5: You know, I go back to what I said in
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, if this league I wanted to
Speaker 5: last one hundred years, you know, like like the NFL
Speaker 5: or the NBA, you know, was just going on a hunting.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I wanted to be here.
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 5: You know, we got this style play Three on three
Speaker 5: has always been part of basketball. It's never really got
Speaker 5: to shine, and now it's starting to shine and people
Speaker 5: seeing it's a great style of play. You know, Mono,
Speaker 5: we mono. You know, you got to be able to pass, dribble, shoot,
Speaker 5: and defend to have success. And it's a great game.
Speaker 1: You know, when you think about what the Big Three,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I got to tell you, I'm proud
Speaker 1: of I'm proud of what you've done to the league
Speaker 1: with the league.
Speaker 2: I'm proud of the opportunities you've given cats.
Speaker 1: You know that obviously some of that retired from the
Speaker 1: NBA and stuff like that, but they still got skills.
Speaker 1: They just ain't trying to run up and down a
Speaker 1: quarter full ninety four feet for eighty two nights a year,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But when I think about this
Speaker 1: league and what you've done for so many people, what
Speaker 1: are the kind of things these players are telling you
Speaker 1: the Big Three has done for them.
Speaker 5: You know, one thing we never counted on was how
Speaker 5: much this league would help mental health of our heroes
Speaker 5: on the court, getting them back in the arena where
Speaker 5: they belong. These guys have honed their skills, you know,
Speaker 5: as long as you have you know, doing your art
Speaker 5: and just think you know, somebody can walk up one
Speaker 5: day and tell you it's over just because of what
Speaker 5: you know. They don't have room for you, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. It's like, yo, these guys still want
Speaker 5: to play at the highest level. They go overseas, but
Speaker 5: they want to be at home. They want to play
Speaker 5: in those arenas that they used to play, and they
Speaker 5: want to play in front of you know, American crowds,
Speaker 5: their friends, their family, they bring their kids to the game.
Speaker 5: So never thought, you know, we'd be helping players mental
Speaker 5: health as much as we are when it comes to,
Speaker 5: you know, what they can achieve on the basketball court.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing former NBA players that's a part of the
Speaker 1: league right now. And I'm told former NBA champions Dwight
Speaker 1: Howard and Lance Stevenson were ejected from Saturday season open
Speaker 1: up between Miami and Los Angeles. That's built into the
Speaker 1: media box. What the hell is that about? I mean,
Speaker 1: they think you got cats getting fighting with all of
Speaker 1: that right now?
Speaker 2: What's that about? How you feel about that ice que
Speaker 2: hey man?
Speaker 5: You know, it's part of the game. Like, you know,
Speaker 5: they ready to play. You know, they they're passionate. They
Speaker 5: not just out there because you know, they're getting, you know,
Speaker 5: crazy money. They out there because they love a game,
Speaker 5: and this is what the fans want to see. As
Speaker 5: far as the passion, now, we don't condone the fighting.
Speaker 5: You know, we let you trash talk a little. We
Speaker 5: don't want players touching each other, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: We want players to you know, kind of watch their language,
Speaker 5: you know a little bit on TV. But we want
Speaker 5: the passion. And you know, it happened. It's filled over
Speaker 5: in our first game between two rookies. This is their
Speaker 5: first game and the Big Three, and welcome to the
Speaker 5: Big Three.
Speaker 2: The Big Three, which is on CBS.
Speaker 1: By the way, for everybody that's watching the debut with
Speaker 1: eight all new franchises, tell me about them. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Dallas, Houston, Miami.
Speaker 2: I mean, talk to me about that eight new teams.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, you know, we decided to plan ourselves in
Speaker 5: cities before we were kind of a you know, barnstorming league,
Speaker 5: not connected to any cities. We wanted to create Big
Speaker 5: Three fans and fans of the style of the game.
Speaker 5: And now that we have that, it's time to plant
Speaker 5: our flags and cities. We opening up a real big
Speaker 5: fandom when it comes to that. So it's unlocking a
Speaker 5: lot of eyes onto the Big Three and a lot
Speaker 5: of interest. You know, when you got your city pride
Speaker 5: to add to you know, your you know, expectations of
Speaker 5: the game. It it just takes us to another level.
Speaker 5: So we got eight, Now we want to go to twelve.
Speaker 5: We want to go to you know, sixteen twenty. You know,
Speaker 5: we don't have a team in New York yet, so
Speaker 5: you know, Steven that you might want to put a
Speaker 5: put some you know, put the team together, you know,
Speaker 5: grab that New York squad, so you never know, I
Speaker 5: have to, I.
Speaker 2: Might have to, I might have to.
Speaker 1: You can't have you can't have a basketball league and
Speaker 1: no team in New York. We definitely got to talk
Speaker 1: about that, make no mistake about it.
Speaker 2: But but I want to know this QBE.
Speaker 1: You know when you came in, when you started this,
Speaker 1: since its inception, what's been the biggest challenge for you
Speaker 1: that you've encountered and try to help this league grow?
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's been challenging in different ways. You know.
Speaker 5: We we really thought we were gonna get more love
Speaker 5: from the sports media having the names that we have
Speaker 5: involved with this league. Uh You've always you know, been
Speaker 5: able to you know, shine light on the league with
Speaker 5: your platform, which I appreciated from day one. You know.
Speaker 5: But you know a lot of sports media looks over
Speaker 5: the league and it's a shame because in the dog
Speaker 5: days of summer, you know, for who fans you know,
Speaker 5: this is right to me. You know, a league that
Speaker 5: is by sized. You know, we got ten weeks and
Speaker 5: we crowned champion and then you know, we get to
Speaker 5: the NFL. So it's pretty pretty cool for the summer.
Speaker 5: So I just wish the sports media get with the program.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you that I certainly could do
Speaker 1: more and I am gonna do more.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you else. I think the players could
Speaker 2: do more as well.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about playing because I know they bring
Speaker 1: what they bring, but I'm talking about talking about the
Speaker 1: Big three when you're looking forward to it. I just
Speaker 1: saw Dwight Howard the other day. He about to be
Speaker 1: inducted into the Hall of Fame. He didn't mention the
Speaker 1: Big Three. It would have been nice, and he mentioned that.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying stuff like that, just letting
Speaker 1: cats know, Yo, this ain't the only kind of basketball
Speaker 1: is going on. We got some skills that we still
Speaker 1: want to showcase as well, So I think a lot
Speaker 1: of the players.
Speaker 2: Can do the same. It's a collective effort. To media.
Speaker 1: You do, you're the one person that you're the one
Speaker 1: reliable commodity with the Big Three from the standpoint, you always, always,
Speaker 1: always are promoting this league. And I think the players
Speaker 1: they got a lot to say with their podcat cast
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff, they could do a lot
Speaker 1: more as well.
Speaker 5: Would you say that we would love that. You know,
Speaker 5: some players do you know, use their platform to hype
Speaker 5: up the Big Three, but we would love for the
Speaker 5: players to do more that. You know, why the players
Speaker 5: love the league is that we don't put you know,
Speaker 5: too many you know, like ain't doing them like that.
Speaker 5: You know, they want if they want to do it,
Speaker 5: it's got to be out the love of their heart.
Speaker 5: We're not going to require them to do that. We're
Speaker 5: not going to require them to talk to the media.
Speaker 5: You know, they got to do it out the love
Speaker 5: of the game, and they didn't have wanting to have
Speaker 5: something to say to the world. So you know, I
Speaker 5: don't think we're gonna change that. You know, of course,
Speaker 5: We would love for them to talk about it twenty
Speaker 5: four seven, but at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 5: wrong men and stuff to them on what they want
Speaker 5: to talk about.
Speaker 1: One of the things that you've done with this league,
Speaker 1: it's become more than just sport, to touch as culture,
Speaker 1: music community, all of that.
Speaker 2: Was that always your.
Speaker 5: Intention, always, you know, I thought, you know, music, culture
Speaker 5: and sports is like you know, peanut butter and jelly
Speaker 5: with the milk, you know what I mean, it all
Speaker 5: go together, it's perfect. So that's always been you know,
Speaker 5: our philosophy. We had Jim Jones come out rock the
Speaker 5: house today. I mean, you know, on Saturday doing Game one,
Speaker 5: we're gonna have bad Face out and uh out there
Speaker 5: in Baltimore. So you know, we plan on bringing the
Speaker 5: best entertaining the people with basketball, music culture. You know,
Speaker 5: we got break dancers out there from Monster Energy, we
Speaker 5: got DJ dancers, dunkers, everything you can name at the
Speaker 5: Big Three. So it's you know, it's a carnival, you know,
Speaker 5: it's it's a lot of fun at the events.
Speaker 1: You've also talked about ownership involving you know, our ownership
Speaker 1: opportunities for these players, and I know equity is has
Speaker 1: always been important with the Big Three and and how
Speaker 1: different is that, you know from other leagues in your
Speaker 1: estimation in terms of ownership.
Speaker 2: Opportunities for these players. Explain that to the audience.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, a lot of our day one players
Speaker 5: who helped start the league have an ownership in the league,
Speaker 5: which is amazing. And you know, once the league is
Speaker 5: you know, profitable, we'll be able to start cashing them
Speaker 5: out and that'd be a great thing. You know, at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, it's really about you know,
Speaker 5: people putting groups together. Teams are very reasonable right now,
Speaker 5: you know, at the end of the day, compared to
Speaker 5: other pro teams, you know, and so that's gonna change
Speaker 5: very rapidly as teams will start to get purchased, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. We got four owners now looking
Speaker 5: for four more, and then we're gonna expand the league.
Speaker 5: So it's going to continue to go up. So we
Speaker 5: we want some of the players you know, who want
Speaker 5: ownership in the league like this to come forward, like
Speaker 5: I said, put groups together on some of these franchises
Speaker 5: and think about you know, their gnerational wealth. We think
Speaker 5: we got him here with the Big Three.
Speaker 1: Big Three's embraced innovation like the special all red fireball,
Speaker 1: five ball three rules, a four point shot, a fourteen
Speaker 1: second shot clock, and to bring the five challenge where
Speaker 1: teams can contest a foul call with an in game
Speaker 1: one on one.
Speaker 2: How does that enhanced the game and estimation?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, if you look at three on three,
Speaker 5: if you saw the Olympics, it feels, you know, amateur
Speaker 5: that you really put it frankly, But at the end
Speaker 5: of the day, the Big Three, we professional league. We
Speaker 5: wanted to have our wrinkles that helped our game. We
Speaker 5: wanted to have things that you couldn't see nowhere else
Speaker 5: in a pro basketball game, like our four point shot,
Speaker 5: like our bring the fire rule, one shot free throws.
Speaker 5: You know, seeing a guy shoot a free throw from
Speaker 5: the three point line and or the four point circles
Speaker 5: pretty unique. These little wrinkles have made our game fun
Speaker 5: to play and fun to watch, and that's always competitive.
Speaker 5: You know, these rules are not just because we are
Speaker 5: thinking of you know, gimmicks. These rules are built to
Speaker 5: help you win the game. And we saw some great
Speaker 5: comebacks this weekend team down at least eleven and the
Speaker 5: other team had forty nine and then they come back
Speaker 5: and win the game. So it is designed perfectly for
Speaker 5: this game.
Speaker 1: One of the last questions I got for you on
Speaker 1: the Big Three man Big Three head coach of Basketball
Speaker 1: Legend Nancy Leeberman is the first woman to become a
Speaker 1: head coach of a men's professional team.
Speaker 2: As Powers head coach, she led the team to the
Speaker 2: title in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: Have you considered expanding the league to include more women athletes?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 5: You know, we offered Caitlyn Clark, you know, a shout
Speaker 5: at our league last year and it didn't work out.
Speaker 5: You know, we thought she could probably have a Billy
Speaker 5: Jean King moment, and we thought she could maybe have
Speaker 5: success in our league because you know, small guards have
Speaker 5: had some success in the league, like you know, like
Speaker 5: a du Roof and Nate Robinson, you know, not comparing them,
Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, we thought, you know,
Speaker 5: more than a bigger player, you know, she could maybe
Speaker 5: get loose. So it didn't happen. You know, the player
Speaker 5: captain's pick who who they want to be in the league.
Speaker 5: We've got owners now you never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: So if a player captain pick a woman to be
Speaker 5: on her his team. Then she's in the league.
Speaker 2: Over the week was this past weekend?
Speaker 1: How long does this league last this particular summer?
Speaker 2: When's the end day? When's the championship game?
Speaker 5: Championship? August twenty fourth, ten weeks season? We got one
Speaker 5: buy you know, so you know, count us down, check
Speaker 5: us out every weekend. You know, we got games either
Speaker 5: Saturday or Sunday, CBS and Vice TV, and hey, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And come if we're in your town,
Speaker 5: come check it out because you gotta see seven foot
Speaker 5: is play through on three is incredible.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm coming, I'm coming. I'm gonna sit with you.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a seat for me right next to you.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. I mean, damn, it's a
Speaker 1: courtside seat. It's are hard to come by every damn place.
Speaker 1: But it better not be with ce. If I'm in
Speaker 1: the house, I better have a seat waiting for me
Speaker 1: right next to you. Bro.
Speaker 2: I mean, last time I'll sit with you in LL
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no problem, man, you always got to see. If
Speaker 5: my wife don't come, you you right there. If she did,
Speaker 5: you got to see.
Speaker 1: Now I'll go for I can't come before the wife.
Speaker 1: I can't come before the white man. What you been
Speaker 1: doing with yourself?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 1: How much of your time is being taken up by this?
Speaker 1: Because I mean, you're an actor, you obviously a musician.
Speaker 2: You know, you be doing your thing.
Speaker 1: And I gotta admit you, I haven't even seen you
Speaker 1: to say this to you, my dad feelings when you
Speaker 1: set up there saying to the Yankees when you you know,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: When you told them about it, I hurt my feelings. Killed.
Speaker 1: I hurt my feelings because you know, I'm a Yankee
Speaker 1: fan and I knew they were in trouble. And then
Speaker 1: they came with with with with with Fat Joe. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I love him for the Knicks, but the Yankees nice
Speaker 1: stepped out of pocket. They I was like, nah, I
Speaker 1: ain't cute, and they gonna work.
Speaker 5: I was depressed, man. You know, at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, you know, I had a fun I'm a
Speaker 5: big Dodger fan, you know, so I had to do it.
Speaker 5: You know, you know, the Yankees done hurt our hearts
Speaker 5: so many times. Gang. You know, we got to try
Speaker 5: to get ahead some way somehow. So it was great
Speaker 5: to be a part of that and you know, it's
Speaker 5: just just a you know, I'm a busy man, but
Speaker 5: I love it. You know, spend eighteen hours a day
Speaker 5: on the Big Three. You know, when I commit to something,
Speaker 5: I committed a Hunter and templecent. So that's what it's
Speaker 5: all about right now for me, it's all Big Three,
Speaker 5: you know. Then we'll jump back on the music. I
Speaker 5: got a tour coming, the Truth to Power tour in
Speaker 5: the fall, so right, you can't get rid of me,
Speaker 5: Stephen Aink.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm trying to figure that say out. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: brother music.
Speaker 1: Carisk been forty years and he was about to come
Speaker 1: out with a new album. And and by the way,
Speaker 1: you don't look you don't look forty. So I'm looking
Speaker 1: at you like, damn, it's forty years of the music
Speaker 1: in the street.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a lot of time. But you don't
Speaker 2: look it. Bro, you don't look it.
Speaker 5: Hey man, people don't realize. You know, I started as
Speaker 5: a real young man. You know, I was fourteen fifteen
Speaker 5: years old when I started. You know, wrote my first
Speaker 5: hit song at sixteen, you know, a song called Boys
Speaker 5: in the Hood for easy Eating Rest in Peace. So
Speaker 5: been here, you know, doing it, and it's time to
Speaker 5: celebrate that. You know, four decades I atted Toude. You
Speaker 5: know you gotta catch me when I come to town.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, man, I let me not forget this for
Speaker 1: my orders. You were recently honored with your handprint ceremony
Speaker 1: of the Chinese did the Hollywood Walk of Fame celebrating
Speaker 1: your icotic career. Fans, family friends on hand.
Speaker 2: What did that day mean to you?
Speaker 5: Man? That's a movie star status, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, a lot of people
Speaker 5: got stars, not a lot got their hands and feeding
Speaker 5: some men in front of the Man's Chinese theater. So
Speaker 5: great honor, something you don't expect. When you get the call.
Speaker 5: You just feel, you know, gratitudes and attitude for real.
Speaker 5: You know, you just feel blessed to be in this
Speaker 5: position and to have a career that people are recognizing. Uh,
Speaker 5: decades later.
Speaker 1: Man, is it true that you gotta you know, I'm
Speaker 1: hearing these reports that the last Friday films and developments?
Speaker 5: Is that true?
Speaker 2: Fans?
Speaker 5: Finally? Uh? You know, we've been okay fighting the play
Speaker 5: wait a long time, you know. Thank this new leadership
Speaker 5: at New Line and Warner Brothers with Mike de Luca.
Speaker 5: You know, now it's time to start putting the pieces together.
Speaker 1: I can never talk to you without giving your son
Speaker 1: some love. I saw it then the Thieves two a
Speaker 1: few months ago. The brother's doing this thing. Oh Shay Jackson,
Speaker 1: I mean, proud, Papa, I'm imagining you really, that.
Speaker 2: Brother's got talent.
Speaker 1: My man, he's got a real, real bright future in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, he can act. I love
Speaker 1: what I see from your son. How are you feeling
Speaker 1: about what he's doing with himself these days?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Man, he's a better actor than me, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, like amazing range, you know, fully dedicated, and
Speaker 5: you know, proud that he's running with him. You know
Speaker 5: he's not walking with him. And so you know, all
Speaker 5: we can do is parents, I know, Happy Father's Day
Speaker 5: to all the father's out there that's really involved in
Speaker 5: their kids life, no doubt. And so look to you
Speaker 5: to really to really you know, being your kids life
Speaker 5: and watch them do something. Put them in a place
Speaker 5: to win, position to win. You want them to do
Speaker 5: what it takes. You know, you know I can only
Speaker 5: put you in a position to win, can't play for you.
Speaker 5: So you know, he out there doing what he needed
Speaker 5: to do to win the game. So you know, I'm
Speaker 5: proud of Ice.
Speaker 1: Before I let you get on out of here, man,
Speaker 1: forgive me for fearing left and ask you this question.
Speaker 2: You're you're an LA native. You see what's.
Speaker 1: Going on in the streets of Los Angeles right now
Speaker 1: with all these protests because of the Trump administration and
Speaker 1: Ice and what they're doing with migrants and.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that. And you see a lot of people
Speaker 2: protesting across.
Speaker 1: The country, but obviously a lot of it is emanating
Speaker 1: with the No Kings protests emanating out of the Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: What has been your thoughts about it, because you you
Speaker 1: you've never been shy about expressing what you believe is
Speaker 1: right and what have you. And obviously you know you're
Speaker 1: politically conscientious as well.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts about what you've been seeing.
Speaker 5: It's heartbreaking, you know, see the city go up like this,
Speaker 5: you know, just to see the city kind of I
Speaker 5: mean the government handle it in the way they handling it,
Speaker 5: you know, they're they're using a lot of humiliation, you know,
Speaker 5: and they're they're you know, being very you know, heavy handed.
Speaker 5: You know, I understand the laws of the law and
Speaker 5: all that, But why you gotta be so heavy handed
Speaker 5: with what you're doing so disrespectfully purchase weddings. You know
Speaker 5: you're hit these places, man, and you know it's just
Speaker 5: I think it could be done in a more respectful way. Man,
Speaker 5: It's just it's not right.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, my man. I always appreciate your voice,
Speaker 1: appreciate what you're doing. You know I'm always here for you,
Speaker 1: my man. You take care of yourself and I look
Speaker 1: forward to talking to you and seeing you soon.
Speaker 2: All right, you be good, Take it.
Speaker 5: Easy, Take it easy, man, always, anytime.
Speaker 2: Always, no doubt.
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Speaker 2: That's it for this edition to the Stephen A. Smith Show.
Speaker 1: I hope y'all enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed
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Speaker 1: Remember, I got an NBA Finals to cover Game five
Speaker 1: tonight in Oklahoma City, so make sure you check it out.
Speaker 2: Don't miss it.
Speaker 1: I'll be on NBA Countdown on ESPN and ABC tonight
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Speaker 1: out there with the crew Kendrick Perkin, Bob Myers, Malika Andrews,
Speaker 1: and so on. Make sure you don't miss it until later, y'all.
Speaker 1: Stephen they signing off piece of love and talk to
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