WEBVTT - Rendlesham Forest 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.880 High Strange is released weekly every Thursday, brought to you 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.080 absolutely free, but if you want to bene the whole season, 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:11.000 it's available right now on Apple Podcasts for all Tenderfoot 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:15.120 Plus subscribers. You'll also get exclusive bonus episodes throughout the season. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.079 For more information, check out the show notes. Enjoy the episode. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.920 There's some type of strange road light hill. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:31.160 I saw, y'all a tang in it too. 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.960 Weird, It maybe a little bit funny. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.120 Yes, it's be not aspat thrill is coming its way. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:42.879 Also, it's definitely coming its way. It goes back out 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.320 into the farmer's field directly overhead a very high speed. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.040 At least fifteen people in the weapons storage areas saw 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:51.120 the objects. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:51.160 In the sky. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.040 Here's something very very strange. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.200 It's not aspen. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:01.880 I said, let's try and approach it. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.520 We move up to the edge of the forest, and 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:05.840 when we. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.199 Tried to get close, it went back out into the field. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.039 They knew we were trying to get close. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.640 It's kind of tourist house. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.800 Sparks are coming off and so bright. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.840 It was like looking at the sun coming down to 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:20.319 the ground. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.120 This is beyond anything that we're familiar with. 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:37.759 Welcome to high Strange. The year was nineteen eighty Suffolk, England. 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.119 Tensions between Russia and the US were high. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.960 There is imminent danger of some kind of Soviet military action. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.880 There were two bases in eastern England ran by the 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:48.840 US Air Force. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.440 This invasion is an extremely serious threat to peace. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.960 They house the most advanced weapons in the world, there 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.360 ready for deployment at any second. Right around Christmas time 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.640 that year, the forest behind this US military base will 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.480 become the location of Britain's very own roswell event known 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:12.760 as the Rendlesham Forest incident. Charles Holt, a military commander 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.880 on the base, headed into the forest to investigate rumors 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.560 of lights in the sky when he experienced an encounter 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.400 of his own. This was the third night in a 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.120 row that separate military officers claimed to have experienced something 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.320 unexplainable in the forest. I reached out to one of 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.880 the witnesses from the first night. His experience is arguably 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:36.519 even more bizarre than Halts. Forty years later, gathering these 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.600 different accounts, I'm hoping to try and piece together what 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:40.560 really happened here. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:50.720 This guy, yeah, it's perfect for you. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:55.760 This is Jim Piniston. 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.119 So how many guys believe in UFOs. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.240 At this point, I'm convinced that UFOs are not a 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:06.880 matter of believing, but rather the question is what are they? 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.880 There are outlier cases like this one that still puzzle 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.760 our government today. The real question we're asking ourselves is 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.040 do you believe these are extraterrestrial or are they some 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.720 other natural phenomenon we don't fully understand yet. Or are 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.360 these guys simply mistaking what they saw, embellishing their stories, 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.480 or just flat out making them all up. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:28.519 That's the real question here. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:34.400 You've told this story a thousand times, I'd say over times. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:35.880 We're fascinated about. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.280 Story, and they don't have a story. Though I don't 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.360 have a story. The story sounds like something that you 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:43.720 read when you're in grade school. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:45.560 What is it? 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.960 This is an investigation by the United States Air Force. 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.640 I'm December twenty sixth, nineteen eight. This is gonna be 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.520 a rough night sleeping tonight. Well, I could talk. I'm 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.600 talking about these are triggers. So everything you hear is 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:03.240 a trigger. Nothing, there's no way around it. What I 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.880 was seeing was stuff I had never encountered in my 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:07.680 life or since then. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:10.560 In the trauma of dealing with it. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.000 I've always been able to tell you everything it wasn't, 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.000 but there is a problem because of what wasn't. 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:23.120 I don't know what it was. 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:29.160 Jim's story begins on December twenty sixth, nineteen eighty, shortly 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:29.880 after midnight. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.160 I was a fifth generation military at that time. I 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:38.080 was in charge of base security for Woodbreach. Our job 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.960 was to protect aircraft weapons plus the personnel on the base. 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.800 The night started pretty much as usual. I had done 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.040 my guard mount, which is a briefing that you give 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.320 your fifteen guys that are going to be working with you, 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.400 putting my stuff down and grabbing a cup of coffee. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.320 Sarry mccaully says, did you hear that call on the radio? 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:03.160 I said, no, I missed it. Central Security Control, our 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.760 control center is trying to get a hold of it. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.760 We had a direct line. Talked to sargant coffee. He 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.160 was a senior controller. I said, well, what's going on? 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.760 He says, well, they'll brief you when you get out there. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:23.040 He wouldn't tell me nfhone, which was odd. I'm being 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.760 dispatched for a situation. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.919 What it is? I don't know he wouldn't tell me. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:32.360 I arrived at the east gate. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:37.320 I contact the senior law enforcement patrolman staff Sargen, Bud Stephens. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.200 He said, what's going on, Bud? He just sort of 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:45.480 points over maybe preiriy yards over to render some forest 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:50.760 adjacent to the gate. I could see lighting above the 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:55.480 forest and in the forest. I turned around to him 0:05:55.520 --> 0:06:01.599 and said, well, what is it? He says, oh, inside 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.279 the forest you could see orange light. You see a 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.440 red light. You could see flickering like that. It would 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.640 appear to be a fire, like something's burning. But the 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.840 strange part of that, over the top of the canopy 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.680 of the forest, there was a bubble of light over 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.800 the top of it. But I see out there didn't 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.760 make sense to me at all. Whatever is there had 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.880 to be really lit up. So my question to a 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.560 Bud was, need to hear a crash, And he goes, oh, no, 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:38.080 it'll landed. There's no way helicopter or plane could ever 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:39.239 land in that forest. 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.640 The trees and Redntlesoome Forest at the time were used 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.120 as a crop hundreds of trees planted about five feet 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.039 apart from each other, which would make it nearly impossible 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.520 for conventional aircraft to land there. He went back to 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.720 the east gate and called in to report what he 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:56.679 was seeing in the forest. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:02.120 Reached central security control. It's now security problem. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:08.159 Five guys pick up. We got five guys online. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.920 I says, well, I think this is a possible aircraft 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:16.440 crash in the forest. They lost contact. Was a unidentified 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.400 bogie on radar. They know where it came from. It 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.520 came from our ease. And all this stuff is happening megafast. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.160 We were giving permission to go off base. We had 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:33.720 a crash kit. I pulled out the camera. Security control 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:35.880 was starting to break up and I couldn't really understand 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:36.680 what they were saying. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.320 On base, they used repeating systems for their radios, which 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.800 allowed their walkies to cover a much longer distance. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.200 Basically, there's never a dead spot. 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.080 But for the first time in his career on that base, 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.160 Jim was having trouble reaching the command post on his radio. 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.000 Even though I wasn't hearing nothing in the radio, I'm talking. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.200 I'll get to the edge of the tree line was 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.840 coming out of the forest was a white light. It 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.320 was so intense that you couldn't really see anything inside 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:13.160 the center of that light. Started taking pictures. I could 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:19.080 feel static electricity on my face and skin. At first 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:23.880 I thought it was maybe adrenaline, but it continued. My 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:29.559 movements felt labored, like walking waist deep and a pool 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.800 of water. I'm starting to wonder now, is this a rust? 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:38.240 Is this something out here to distract us? I started 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:42.640 to get worried. As I got to the edge of 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.840 the forest. I implemented a helping hand situation on the radio. 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:55.360 It's real and I'm unarmed. I used all the film up, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:09:01.080 the camera started going out. This final burn, this bright 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:09.840 white light just exploded. I hit the ground. I was 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.240 getting very scared, very concerned for my. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:12.920 Own well being. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.959 I know that what I'm seeing is nothing I trained for. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:23.760 I personally thought, this is an unsurvivable situation. Everything out 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.360 there is something I haven't seen. Before I get up 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:32.360 off the ground, the white light started to dissipate, and 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:37.000 when it did, I could see nothing but this black aircraft, 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:43.200 this black triangular craft inside this white light. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.920 Did you ever see anything like that before? 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:50.720 Craft like that didn't exist. 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.480 He pulled out his pen and notebook and started documenting 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.760 as many details as he could about what he was seeing. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:04.240 Itself was warm to the touch, he described it feeling 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.840 very smooth like black glass. 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.440 Well, I looked the underneath it. I could see white 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.120 beams of light. There's three of them coming out from 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.439 underneath the craft. I wonder if that's stable. I wanted 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.160 to secure, so I tried to move it, and I 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:23.960 pushed on it, tried to give it a shove to 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.280 see if it would move. This didn't move at all. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:30.880 It was solid, fixed to the ground. Somehow, with this technology, 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:36.440 how can this be? I started to look for things 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:42.080 that aircraft needs to fly, exhausts and intakes and things 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:46.160 like that. There was void of all those things. There 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:52.920 was no openings, there was no crew compartment. I had nothing. Basically, 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:58.480 it was a flying brick. This thing couldn't fly. You 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.720 need all those things for craft to fly. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.679 I go out to record all that stuff down in 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:05.400 my book. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:11.760 The craft itself was warm to touch, smooth, glass like metal. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.840 Still doing my security checks on the radio, but I'm 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:24.240 getting nothing back. During my interaction with the craft, the 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:29.320 air fell electric. I don't know how to explain that. Boy, 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.240 the hair was lifting in the back of the neck 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:37.480 and arms and face come back around and I could 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.000 see writing. 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.839 On the side of the craft. That's a good thing. 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:50.480 I'm thinking, I'm hoping this says Nassai or something. As 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.280 I got closer, it was a writing light we had. 0:11:53.960 --> 0:12:01.280 It was like gliffs. Victoria Bliss was put the emotion 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.199 back into a panic. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.680 What it looked like the writing. 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:14.640 There's five symbols. They were different shapes. The one that 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:16.960 stood out the most it was the one that was 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.160 above those five. There was another one which was larger 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.840 and had a circular a circle around it, and it 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:28.240 was a triangle with this huge circle around it, the 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.160 size of a big dinner plate. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:31.120 The circle. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.720 I put my hand on the circular triangle that was 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.600 above the other Gliss. All of a sudden, I have 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:45.800 a blinding, pure white light. I cannot see nothing else. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:54.640 That eliminated all my visions. I start to see things 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.040 that don't make no sense at all. That more, things 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.840 that don't make those sense, like one and zeros and 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:01.600 things like that. 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:03.560 It terrified me. 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.720 I gained my wits back, lift my hand back off, 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.800 and it stops. 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:16.600 Was it in your head or physically there? 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.560 I was trying to determine whether or now it was 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.400 physically there or in my head? Okay, When I took 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.160 my hand off, that symbol I had my night vision, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.920 which is impossible. I had perfect night vision once I 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:36.120 took my hand off the craft. After that happened with 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.760 the light, I was never going to touch that craft again. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.240 All of a sudden, I started to see what I 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:48.439 perceive as activity. All of a sudden, the color light 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.079 that had dissipated inside the fabric of the cast started 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.439 to come back and started moving around in the craft. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.360 So I backed away for about ten feet. I got 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.800 on the ground, tried to dig a hole. I was 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.400 thinking that I had active something. When I touched it, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:06.880 I thought I was going to explode. The craft started 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:17.560 powering up and moved back through the trees. It had 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:24.480 no air displacement at all. There's absolutely no sound. All 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:29.200 aircraft make noise. That's a fact. All of the flaps 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:33.479 that all need either a propeller or intakes or exhaust, 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:39.400 or they can't fly. A few seconds later, it just 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.880 took off. It was gone in a blank of that eye. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.280 After the craft departure, all of a sudden, I could 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:56.680 start hearing things. Immediately after it went out of site. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:04.280 I could start hearing wind. I had full real contact. 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.440 Jim Penison was the head of security at the time, 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.680 not just some on duty guard, the head of security 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.120 on a US military base that held nuclear bombs ready 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.200 to drop on Russia at any given moment. He spent 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:25.080 his career in the Air Force and specialized in recognizing aircraft. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.920 Multiple witnesses saw the same things over the course of 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:33.200 three days on the base. After the incident, Jim typed 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.560 a report recounting his experience, submitting it to the higher ups. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.320 He took notes in his notepad and drew several sketches 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.320 of what the craft looked like. I got to see 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.840 these for myself and I'll post them on the High 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.440 Strange Instagram and TikTok. 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.200 Just go to at High Strange. 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.840 I'm no expert on anything aircraft related, but even to 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.600 the layperson, Jim's sketches of the aircraft looked nothing like 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:01.320 the US Air Force has then or now. 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.720 After I had my encounter in the forest, I went 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.760 back and talked to all the participants that were involved. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:23.000 The first night. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.200 Here's Charles Holtz again, the man who recorded the third 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:28.800 night of the incident on his tape. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:34.080 Recorder, Peniston Burrows Cabana sack. They told me a cleaned 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.760 up version of what happened. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.080 They were told what to tell me. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:43.360 In fact, Cabanasak brought me a typed statement. He didn't 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:47.440 type it. He couldn't type words that he would not 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:48.040 have used. 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.920 Holtz seems to think, or is at least hinting at 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.960 the idea, that the reports submitted by his buddy were 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.480 merely a cover story. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.280 Basically said, we saw the Lighthews. 0:16:59.320 --> 0:16:59.880 I think. 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.520 The British tabloid press had a field day with reports 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.520 of the incident, with stories of flying saucers, mysterious lights, 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.480 and even aliens. The Times of London, however, dismissed the 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.959 incident and poked fun at the other newspapers. It quoted 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.080 this man, Vince their Kettle, a forester who works near 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.840 the alleged landing site. Their Kettle told CNN that the 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.800 UFO was merely a beam of light from the nearby 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:26.920 Orford Lighthouse. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.399 But if you didn't know as a lighthouse, if you short, 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.920 it was something small, maybe two three meters across, pulsing 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.160 white in the forest. Yes, it looks as if it's 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.240 within the trees, and it does appear to light up 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.000 the trees as well. 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.439 When your senses are heightened, adrenaline pumping, and you're out 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.200 in the woods at night looking for something weird. Common 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.639 sense says there's a good chance you might find it. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.400 I don't think we're ever going to get very far 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.280 with the Renation Forest incident. 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.400 This is Mick West again, an investigative UFO skeptic. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:17:59.720 I don't know if this is ever going to be 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.080 a determination of exactly what happened to that. I think 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.520 there are laws of all explanations a certain aspects of it. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.160 There was a lighthouse, that's crazy. 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.720 It wasn't the lighthouse. I'm very familiar with. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.760 The lighthouse, and the lighthouse is at orford Ness. Orford 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.080 Ness is a little small fishing village on the coast 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.240 out on the island. Two little pubs out there have 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.080 very good food and reasonable prices. I have pictures of 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.600 me standing here. The lighthouse is over there, and the 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:32.160 object was out here. How could the lighthouse reflect off 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.879 the windows of the farmhouse when the lighthouse is two 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.080 or three miles out that way. 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:42.040 The lighthouse theory quickly became the easiest and most rational explanation. 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.800 But why would all these highly trained men interpret a 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.320 lighthouse as some strange foreign object. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.960 Three days in a row. I mean, what's the point. 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.840 The lighthouse was always there anyway, a little strange to 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.000 suddenly take note of it and make a huge deal 0:18:58.040 --> 0:18:59.840 out of it all. 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.960 The game warden was also familiar with the cars and 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.640 dismissed the lighthouse theory outright. 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.440 At the moment, We're standing on the orphored key, and 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.280 quite clearly you can see the lighthouse over there flashing. 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.800 The light from the UFO was totally nothing like the 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:16.840 light from the lighters. 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.560 We know that people make mistakes. 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.640 We know that people, even with the best of intentions 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:27.080 and with the best of observational abilities, can sometimes perceive 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.160 things to be other than the way they actually are. 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:35.640 There are classic cases like the Cottingly Fairies, where these 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:39.840 two girls took photographs of fairies and they managed to 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.200 convince a whole bunch of people that these were genuine 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.960 photos of fairies, including Arthur Conan Doyle, who was a 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:50.399 big investigator of such things at the time. They stuck 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:55.920 to their story for decades. People once they buy into 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.480 a certain explanation, it's kind of difficult for them to 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:00.320 admit that they made stuff up. 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:03.080 Once they told the same. 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.400 Story over and over again, it almost becomes like a memory. 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.879 They're not really lying as such, they're simply just telling 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.320 the same story, which happens to be false. 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.720 How could so many credible people from the military come 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:34.760 up with the exact same lie, the same exact misinterpretation 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.439 of something so completely normal. What are the odds they 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:42.639 were all just mistaken or hallucinating. If their job is 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.320 to guard and protect a military base, and they're dreaming 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:48.119 of fantastical stories of foreign lights in the sky that 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.399 didn't actually exist, then that would be pretty concerning on 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:52.320 its own, wouldn't it. 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.679 I met the lighthouse keeper, Keith Simmons, met him and 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.520 talk with him. Light house has three lenses, red and green, 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:04.920 shine out to sea and white to land. He said, 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:06.800 if you saw a red light, you couldn't have seen 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.600 the lighthouse. You had to be out the sea to 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:10.720 see the red lights. So people say that red light 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.960 you saw was the lighthouse. There's no way it's not 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:17.600 the lighthouse. The lighthouse is in a different location, twenty 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:23.080 five or thirty degrees away. There's agencies that have a 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:26.960 whole lot more information in what they're reviewing. The following 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:31.800 week from the incident, an unmarked plane came normally went planes, 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.480 even the U two's and SR seventy one, which occasionally 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:37.680 dropped them when they had a problem. We provided security 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:41.239 for this plane, provided their own security and had their 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.000 own people in uniform which were not Air Force uniforms. 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:47.359 Unmarked planes are not unheard of. 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.240 There's a company known as Janet Airlines that shuttles employees 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:55.080 from the Las Vegas Airport to Area fifty one. You'd 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.840 at least think that if unmarked planes full of unknown 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:01.200 uniformed employees were landing on the based to collect information 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.880 day whoever they are seem to find this incident just. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:05.800 A little bit interesting. 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.600 Seems like a lot of extra unnecessary work for a lighthouse. 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.040 It was obvious nobody else was going to investigate. Nobody 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.000 else was going to do anything, even though they did 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:21.080 do things in the background, behind the scenes, so to speak. 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.000 So I didn't know anybody else was in the background 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:27.920 playing games. I didn't know any of this. I wasn't 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:29.919 told to be quiet. It was sort of inferred that 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:33.560 I should be quiet, and I already knew that. But 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:35.919 I still got to three and four star endorsements on 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:39.560 my report cards and still got promoted because they knew 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:40.720 it was credible. 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.800 When it comes to trolls Holts. I'll be honest, it's 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:45.880 hard not to believe him. 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.320 I get disappointed with all the disinformation that's out there, 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.720 but I can't know anything about it except just tell 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:53.200 the truth. 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:56.360 He doesn't claim to know what he saw that night, 0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.640 but that it was certainly something they were beyond unfamiliar with. 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.200 I have not ever said I saw a little green man. 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:07.159 I never saw any entity that I could identify. I 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:08.800 know what I saw, but I don't know what it was. 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:13.359 I'd sure like to know. So Obviously, whatever we're seeing 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.919 in the sky has the ability to do phenomenal things 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:22.080 change shape, change size, change calor going phenomenal speed, do 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.320 things that we just can't even imagine. 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:27.840 He wrote down in his own memo that he and 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.480 several other military personnel saw multiple objects in the sky, 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:35.560 a quote redlight sun object that pulsed and shed into 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:39.360 particles before splitting into five separate white lights and then 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.000 disappearing in the sky. It's hard to imagine someone of 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:46.480 sound mind running around with a cassette recorder chasing a 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:51.280 stationary lighthouse all night. The tape itself feels genuine. It 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.199 sounds like they really don't know what's going on. 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:56.480 I wish I knew more, but I don't. 0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:59.320 I am firmly convinced that we're not alone. 0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:01.720 I can tell that, but I don't know what we're 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:02.240 faced with. 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.880 Charles Holt went on to investigate the supposed landing site 0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.000 of the unknown aircraft, and he found indentations in the 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.760 frozen ground, So something, whatever it was, had to have 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.360 physically been there, or someone went out of their way 0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:18.359 to make it look like there was. That feels like 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.960 we're entering conspiracy land a little bit. Holt and his 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:25.359 crew members also took Geiger counter readings. They found the 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:29.200 radiation on the indentations in the ground were significantly higher 0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:32.560 than the background, and while they were examining the site, 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.679 they were interrupted by their own firsthand ufhoe encounter, and 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.880