WEBVTT - Draft Show: Way-Too-Early Bold Predictions 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:06.439 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.080 on the Pure War Room for in center news and 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:13.360 draft analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.960 at the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Ezikie Elliott 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:22.880 and now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:27.560 brought us. Ask him you shall receive Welcome to the 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:31.639 Draft Show. Brian brought us, Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Kent Garrison, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:37.680 Executive producer. So fortunate to be with you guys another day, 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.000 starting the week wherever we've you folks wanted a second 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.360 draft show, and so we're gonna give it to you 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.720 Monday's at ten o'clock. Monday's at ten am. 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That's another way to get your 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:25.120 questions answered. You can tweet at the Draft show or 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:29.120 at David Hellman Hellman DC. Right, David, Am I right 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.280 about that? Yes, sir, all right, make sure we do 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.640 that if you want to get your question answered again, 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.560 if you're on the phone lines, we have just a 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.840 simple rule. We're all doing great. We're here, we're happy 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.280 to be a part of the draft. We're happy. It's 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.880 a National Championship game tonight, and so you know, just 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.079 get to your question and we'll move this thing along 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:51.600 and we'll all be better for it. News of the day. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.840 Will McClay Dallas Cowboys News of the day. Will McClay 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.080 is on the list for the Houston Texans as a 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:03.320 possible general manager candidate. Yeah, is there actually news of 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.639 the day. I feel like the news of the weekend 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.240 was Yeah, well we'll see. Well, I'll turn it into 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.280 some news of the day, because I did visit with 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.519 Will this morning, said bringing something new to this, Yeah, 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.440 there's nothing new to report from last night. His statement 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.040 he's still waiting on the Texans. As of eight thirty 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.360 this morning, he was still waiting on the Texans to 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.000 get in touch with him. Will is a Houston native, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.280 went to school at Rice, has family in the area. 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.640 This seems like a very good opportunity for him to 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.760 interview for a team. I don't know how you guys feel, 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.200 but you keep turning these jobs down. They're not going 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.200 to call you anymore, and there's only so many of them, 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.640 and I feel like that Will again, Cowboy fans have 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.520 grown to appreciate what he's been able to do. Feel 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.680 like the drafts have been better. I feel like the 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.880 organization itself and player personnel has been better. He feels 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.400 like he probably needs to work a little bit on 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.240 the pro side what they need to do with some 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.600 of the guys you know in free agency, But overall, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.840 I think that they have a better direction with the 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.680 way the boards set and some of the players that 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.839 they've been able to grab here under his watts. So 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.240 let's keep an all keep an eye out on Will McClay. 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.720 I'm sure Dallas Cowboys dot Com will have that information 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.320 when it becomes available. Brian, what do you always say 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.400 about the triangle. Yeah, Will is very good at the 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:25.279 triangle and working in this organization. I understand the triangle myself. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.920 I'm not trying to put myself in Will mcclay's shoes, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.920 but my boss, Larry Lacewell back in the day used 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.040 to describe it as that way, and Will understands that too. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.800 It's the point of the triangle of the Joneses. On 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.160 one end is the Scouts and the other end are 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.360 the coaches. I think Will's in the middle of the triangle. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.560 He does a great job of making sure that all 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.960 three groups are on the same page and not just 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.480 the draft, not just a draft, everything right and now. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.320 I think that's one of the great strengths of Will 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:58.919 McClay is his ability to not just always pacify one group, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.920 but keep all the groups together. And I think he's 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:04.919 got a great strength of that. He understands he's a 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.760 former coach, he understands their side of it. The Scouts, 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.560 he understands that side of his Will and the Jones 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.280 he's trying to educate them on what they need to do. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.120 Jones has been at this a long time, but still 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.640 need education. This is going to be interesting because this 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.840 is not the first time that Will's name has been 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.160 mentioned in regard to one of these situations. I think Detroit, 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.599 he was kind of thrown out there, and the Jets 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:32.520 was another one, and those got shot down really really quickly, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.400 Whereas he took the time to come out and say 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.800 himself in his own words that he hasn't heard anything. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.480 He's not going to comment on it, right, He's waiting 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.279 for them, waiting for them, That's what he said. So 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.520 he had the opportunity to shoot this down and he didn't. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.920 So I mean that says something to me. That says 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:50.520 I mean, he at least wants to talk to him, 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.039 He at least wants to see what it's all about. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.120 Knowing Will at least a little bit. I can't imagine 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.800 an opening in the NFL that's more appealing to him. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.960 This is other than other than where he's at. I mean, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.680 you talk about that's where he's from, proximity to family, 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.440 easy to deal with his family here, considering it's a 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.240 short flight right Houston Dallas, and they're pretty well set 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.560 up for the future between all the pieces that they 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.000 have on defense, and they look like they found themselves 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:21.000 a franchise quarterback. Uh it looks like a very favorable 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.120 situation to step into our scouting. Boddy to the right says, hey, 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.240 they don't have a one into two this year. Though 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.120 that's fair, i'n't going to keep in mind, but no, 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.640 I mean you want to not having not having a 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.600 one in a two can be offset by the fact 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.680 that you have one of the most electrifying quarterbacks in 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.080 the league. Yeah, you just you want to have long 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.880 term lenses. And regardless if he actually wants his job 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:44.440 or not. Pro tip, go on an interview. It's got experience. No, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.479 he's especially for a general manager position like that, So 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.360 absolutely make them not hire you. Not only that, it's 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.440 good experience, and it probably makes the people in this 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.479 building appreciate you a little bit more if you're talking 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.840 about I think, I think the Jones just do appreciate you. Oh, 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.760 I know that, and I know I'm not taking a 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:01.880 how much you But anyway, that is the news of 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:03.640 the day. Okay, let's get into these um, I want 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.800 to get into bold predictions. It's very early. January eighth, Yeah, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.920 January eighth. You know, like I said, we've got to 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.480 have a national championship game tonight, Bowl predictions about this draft, 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:15.800 and I ask you guys to come up with just 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.960 a couple because I want this to go on record 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.560 early and then when it if it happens, then when 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.040 that when we're sitting here trying to kill time between 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.520 picks during the draft, I want to remind people about 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.760 that exact thing. So Dane Burglar, I'll start with you. Okay, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.600 give me one bold prediction. I want two from each 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.960 of you, and I'm gonna have two my own, but 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:39.320 give me one Bowl prediction in this draft. One of 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:43.120 the best offensive playmakers from this draft in the NFL 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:48.600 will be a young man from New Mexico State, Joliel Scott, 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.400 wide receiver. About that there might not be a better 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.760 player in the country at high pointing and winning at 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.680 the catch point. He's a big guy, right, huge guy. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.920 He's lean, but he's tall and long, six zo sixty 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.920 three or close to it. Yeah, we'll see. He'll be 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.520 at the Senior Bowl. But I think that you know, 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.440 there's some background stuff we got to work through. Um, 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.200 but if we're just talking about on the field talent, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.320 he has the ability to impact the game in a 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.280 big way. So he's he's a top three senior wide 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.840 receiver in my opinion, and I think you know he'll 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.160 he'll be more well known after the Senior Bowl. But 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.600 there's a good chance that best best best offensive prospect 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.320 at to say, well, the Baker mayfields here at the 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.280 Senior Bowl. Yeah, well, I think he's a top three 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:33.960 senior wide receiver. So I think you know, you look 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.760 at guys like at Anthony Miller. Yeah, so he's right 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:39.680 there in that conversation though, to be so, there's a 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.440 six five kid, right, he's huge, He's a mismatch weapon, 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.400 So keep an eye Jalil Scott. I think he's gonna 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.800 be a big time NFL player. Okay, that's the school 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.640 of New Mexico State. Dani Bruger, All right, that's a 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:54.800 good one. David Hellman fold prediction. I purposefully tried to 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.920 come up with predictions that are going to limit my 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.520 ability to look stupid. Not that not that I can't, 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:00.840 but like, I'm not going to sit here, well I'm 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:02.600 about to look really stupid on mine. I'm not going 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.680 to sit here on January eighth and try to peg 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.280 draft order or something like that, because you know, guys 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.440 were not talking about are gonna shoot up and guys 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.920 we are talking about are gonna drop down. But I 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.080 was looking at the landscape of the draft, which this 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:15.800 is the type of stuff I think is really interesting. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.560 And this is bold because they just hired a new 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.319 GM and it just seems like the logical thing to do. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.760 But I think the New York Giants are going to 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.880 do something nuts in that too spot. I think whether 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.360 that's they're either not going to draft a quarterback, which 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.280 when you're picking two overall, that would be nuts, or 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:34.720 they're going to trade out of that pick and try 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.040 to get a bunch of stuff for it. And I 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.360 think there's good reasoning for that behind the fact that 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.480 what did the Rams do two years ago? They trade 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.960 it up their quarterback, They certainly look like they're in 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.240 a good spot. Same thing goes for the Philadelphia Eagles. 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.040 I think there are teams down the draft board, like 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.760 maybe the Jets or you know, pick one that will 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.400 see that as a way to get relevant quick. And 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.840 I think Arizona. Arizona is another one. Thank you for 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.120 doing my work for me, yeah, And I think the 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.040 Giants are going to try to capitalize on that. So 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.920 they're either going to or maybe they could do something 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.240 really nuts like draft se Quon Barkley two overall. But 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.080 they're they're not going to draft a Quale. I tell 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:10.840 you what. See, this is where I didn't want I 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.320 didn't want to kind of trade ideas, but I just 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.240 took yours five Bowl prediction was the Giants passed on 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.920 a quarterback and go with Quintin Nelson with the second 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.080 overall pick. There you go, that would be a hell 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.240 of a pick. It would be that you think about. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.920 I mean, you know, and Quinton Nelson's the guard from 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.959 Notre Dame, right, do that future Pro Bowl for all? 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.520 You know? The Cowboys were in this spot two years ago, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.800 and and we were we were sitting there driving the 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:35.679 Zeke train, and there were plenty of people that were 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.400 saying they need to get a quarterback, and we were like, 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.160 you got Romo for at least three more years. Like 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.839 and obviously a whole bunch of stuff has happened since then, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.400 But I'm sure the Giants could convince themselves that if 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.920 given a better supporting cast, Eli Mannings got plenty of 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:51.959 gas left in the tank, but they needed they need 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.000 to find that. You guys have that stance, do you 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.959 think they're going quarterback. I think the Giants don't expect 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.280 to be picking in the top five often, No, they don't. 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.440 And that's see I see Ghettleman playing this thing safe. 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.480 I do. And I like what you're saying about Manning 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.320 that may oh maybe he's got one or two more years, right, 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.839 and hey, what if he's got we're talking. Yeah, we 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.240 talked about Davis Webb though too. You know, Dad's another thing. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.679 Oh yeah, come on, you got you got that bunchie 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.800 face right now. You don't, you don't if we're talking 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.040 about Davis Webb last year as a fourth, fifth round guy, 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.040 developmental guy. You don't let a third round pick stop 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.280 you from drafting a quarterback. To overall, who would be 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.880 safer to draft Quentin Nelson or or the kid from 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.280 USC Darnel. I mean, from everything, there's no question it 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.920 is safer. Yeah, from everything, y'all tell me this guy 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.960 is the safest pick in the whole draft. But if 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.920 you must factor, if you're a general, man must fact. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.559 I know. Yeah, fortune favors the bold, I get it, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.360 trust me. I'm just I'm just telling you, okay, what 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:54.240 happens when Eli Manning goes out next year and struggles. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.719 Oh no, you don't have a quarterback. You're about the 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.439 Ghettleman draft, Cam Newton, I believe. So. Yeah, that was 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.400 one line that was one overall, and I think a 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.679 much more slam dunk number one overall in my not 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.840 at the time. I think at the time Cam Newton, 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.160 I know, I know Blaine gabbered ahead of Cam Newton. Yeah, 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.360 I mean, and you want me to stand in there 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.400 pick a quarterback at two now right, I'm just imagine 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.800 Carson Witz. Imagine a world where imagine a world where 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.520 the Cardinals are gonna give you fifteen and like next 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.319 year's one or whatever it would take A would do that. 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.360 A lot depends too on what quarterback is there. Let's 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.720 just say for hypothetical purposes, Seam Darnold goes one. Josh 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.520 Rosen is not that slam dunk because of again the 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.120 off field. We'll talk about it many more times during 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.080 this draft process. But he rubs a lot of people 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.000 the wrong way. A lot of people don't think he's 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.360 gonna be able to take NFL coaching or coaching is 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.320 not gonna want to deal with him. So Josh Rosen's 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.480 not that slam dunk. Now, if you just focus on 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.000 on the field, Yeah, he's worthy of a top five pickure, 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.760 but he might be turned off. The Giants might be 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.160 turned off by him. What if Dorsey takes Alan at one, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.880 then I would laugh like for a long time. Okay, 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.880 I mean just saying, Hey, we all somebody on Twitter 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.959 ASTs you asked me if I would take if he 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.000 took he took my Homes and not people had Mahomes. 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.280 I said, ma Homes would be a first round Plosh Allen? 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.959 Is he traded up to get Mahomes. Josh Allen is 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.559 the most polarizing quarterback prospects since I've been doing this 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.600 all right, more way more polarizing than Mahomes. With Mahomes, 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.120 it was is he a first round or a second rounder? 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.880 With Josh Allen? Is he is a first round or 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:36.000 a seventh rounder? Like it's that wide split with opinion. Dude, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.520 if you're gonna draft a guy, I'm sorry, I know 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.600 there's more to it. I haven't watched if any tape 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.120 on this guy. But like, if Dorsey in the Mountain West, 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:44.840 I need you to be dominating in the Mountain. If 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:49.000 Dorsey takes something other than a quarterback in the first 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.280 just if you takes something other than a quarterback first overall, 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:56.040 say he takes Sparkly for those off the Giants did 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.880 the Giant did the quarterback prospects make you want to 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.440 get off Nelson as as a guy would that would 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.360 would would would Darnel or Rosen wants you to get 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.880 off Nelson if that's who you were planning on taking. 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.440 If I'm the Giants, I'm taking the quarterback. But again, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.800 that's if I fall in love with the quarterback and 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.880 the Giants might not. If the Giants don't draft it too, 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.560 I think it's way more likely it's because somebody's offering 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.880 them a boatload. Get up there. I don't like even 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.960 if Quinton Nelson is better than Zach Martin, I mean 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.200 two overall for a guard. I know that they need 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.800 offensive line, but wow, guy might be he's I know 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.000 offensive players of draft. This might be the best one 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.080 of the best offensive players I know US player period. Yeah. 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.080 It's it's a worthy discussion that I think we'll have 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.640 more than once this this process. We had it with 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.680 Zeke and the running backs. We'll have it again this 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.160 year with Barkley and running back. Yeah. But now, with 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.360 Nelson being arguably the best player this entire draft, what 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.960 is the value and I think he's going top ten? Yeah, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:55.960 is the value there to take him top five? I 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.000 think it's a worthy discussion to have at something. Well, 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.000 I'm sure we'll have a multiple times full prediction number 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.240 too for Dane Burglar Um. Well, I was gonna say 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:05.800 Josh Allen, but we kind of just touched on him, 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.800 So I will go with it's nice you have multiple 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.040 bold predictions in that head of yours. Good idea. I 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.680 was taking a shower this morning, trying to gave my 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.240 dog a walk, trying to think of these things. Jordan 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.920 Whitehead safety from Pitt Oh, here we go. He will 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:26.360 be this year's Buddha Baker oh Special Teams Ace. Yeah, 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.080 a guy, Budda Baker, a great athlete, can play a 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.640 nickel corner, can play safety, can just do a lot 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.800 of things for you. He's he's undersized. I mean he's 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.280 probably gonna be buck ninety five or so, doesn't have 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.440 the traditional safety size, just like Buddha Baker. But the 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.160 want to, the toughness, the speed, the play speed, it's 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.240 all there. I think he could be this year's version 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.560 of Buddha Baker, a second rounder who ends up being 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.520 just an integral part of a secondary somewhere. Did you 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.360 kind of think with me that two plays really good, 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.040 one play really bad. Yeah. Kind of kind of a guy. Yeah. 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.800 And he's a young player and there's some off field 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.760 stuff that you've got to work through. But do this 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:11.440 tell tell me more? Yeah, investigate that. Yeah. So that's 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.200 that's Jordan Whitehead, the safety from Pittsburgh. Yeah, is who 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.760 we're talking about, right, bold prediction. This year's Buddha Baker 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.880 when the Pro Bowl, Right, I think he has a 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.160 special team a special teams player. Yeah. When you say that, 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.920 you mean, by the way, first like first second round 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.160 pick type of guy, wouldn't bud Yeah, top fifty. He 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.440 eventually was second round, right, like thirty six or so. Yeah, 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.240 broke this guy. This guy's tough man. I just we're 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.880 watching the tape and I was impressed how he gets 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.000 in the slot and covers ruh. Yeah, because he has 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.200 all over the field, he has corner athleticism, he does uh. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:44.960 And so I think and we said that a lot 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.080 about Buddha and how fast he played and the toughness, 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:49.120 and I think you see a lot of that with 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.200 Jordan Whitehead. So top fifty, pick a guy that's going 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.160 to come in and make an impact. Dave Hellman, I 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.720 just think quarterbacks drive so much of everything pertaining to 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:02.320 the NFL Draft, and one thing, one thing that we 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.760 you know, and it's we'll get to it as it happens. 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:06.399 But like it's it's so hard to predict what the 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.000 landscape is gonna look like with free agency. But my 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:13.920 bold prediction is that somehow, some way, Kirk Cousins is 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.080 really gonna influence the way this whole thing shakes out 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:21.040 because he's he's up again in Washington or ye are 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.639 gonna tag him? Are they gonna give him a long 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.119 can't tag him? They can't tag you? I thought they could. No, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.640 they transition tag him. No. I think if the way 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.360 it actually makes my point even easier. One the one 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.720 understanding is I have he's been tagged twice, and once 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.359 you be tagged twice, you cannot tag a player again. 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.760 One way or another, He's gonna shake up the league 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.920 landscape because he's either going to sign a big deal 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.119 in the NFC East or somebody else is going to 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.400 poach him away and There's plenty of teams that could 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.680 do it. Whether you want to talk Denver again, the 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.880 New York Jets. I don't know if the New York 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.719 Giants have the type of cap space, but there are 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.399 teams that need Hey after yesterday, even if they're in 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.200 the playoffs. The Jacksonville Jaguars might want him. Um, he's 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.520 gonna wind up somewhere, and it's kind of great, greatly 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.240 affect how we look at the quarterback. Smith or Eli 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.719 Manning Smith Kansas City or Eli Manning get traded to somebody. 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.360 I could absolutely see Alex Smith getting track. I think 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.920 that makes the most sense. Cleveland is the likely destination 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.480 with John Dorsey trading for him in San Francisco, Cleveland 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.360 looking for that bridge quarterback to whoever they draft. Um. 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.760 The value, what's you know Alex Smith? The one year 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.359 left on his deal? What is he worth on the 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:31.320 open market? Uh, that's a tough question because you look 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.080 at the Browns. They have so many draft picks, but 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.640 you don't want to give up the thirty third pick, 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:36.800 thirty fifth pick. Could they get Alex Smith for a 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.440 third rounder? Uh? Maybe another conditional pick. If they do, 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:42.360 If they can, then I think there's a good chance 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.120 to Brown Dorsey. You remember Dorsey. He knows Alex Smith 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.760 better than anybody cher he lived with him. You're just 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.720 for a reference. I've had a traded for him. I 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.000 feel like people listening to this probably know who Dorsey is. 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:57.600 John Dorsey, new general manager of that at a bar. Well, 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.720 he's your buddy, He's somebody one thing Kirk Cousins. He 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.640 can be franchise tagged again, but if it's a third 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:07.000 if he is France third time, his salaries like thirty 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.240 five million. Oh, I didn't think that they I thought 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.680 it was only twice that you could franchise tagging. But 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:15.000 it's his price. The price tag goes up of certain 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.920 percentages each year, and so that's something I did not. 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.760 I always thought it was two times an out, That's 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:21.720 what I thought. It was. Just never really, I don't 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.040