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Speaker 1: Will McClay Dallas Cowboys News of the day. Will McClay

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Speaker 1: is on the list for the Houston Texans as a

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Speaker 1: Will this morning, said bringing something new to this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's still waiting on the Texans. As of eight thirty

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Speaker 1: get in touch with him. Will is a Houston native,

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Speaker 1: This seems like a very good opportunity for him to

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Speaker 1: let's keep an all keep an eye out on Will McClay.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Dallas Cowboys dot Com will have that information

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Speaker 1: But like it's it's so hard to predict what the

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Speaker 1: feel like people listening to this probably know who Dorsey is.

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Speaker 1: John Dorsey, new general manager of that at a bar. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's your buddy, He's somebody one thing Kirk Cousins. He

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Speaker 1: broad Us. Kerrie and Johnson running back out Auburn will

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Speaker 1: He will be the second running back taken in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. You're gonna see Nick

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Speaker 1: the most difficult position to evaluate. Have I ever got

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Speaker 1: always been a difficult position for me because again, how

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Speaker 1: did those guys translate? How does the NFL game? I mean,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I just think that that's a very very

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Speaker 1: difficult position for me. I could do offensive linement all day.

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Speaker 1: As far as evaluate those guys, I think that's where

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Speaker 1: interior offensive center is something that I've I've struggled with,

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Speaker 1: But Travis Frederick wasn't a highly rated guy, and you

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Speaker 1: know guys like that who you know, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's Travis Frederick was one of those guys that I

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Speaker 1: and you know, he went almost a full round earlier

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Speaker 1: they're asked to do different things, right, and that makes

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Speaker 1: I think you have to ask yourself what are they

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Speaker 1: Is he in many stocked down? Yeah? Corner is my

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Speaker 1: favorite position to evaluate. I think they either make plays

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Speaker 1: getting beat once or twice a game. I get that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Justin gober Oh, it's truth, Turtle says if Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: is there in the first Why not take a chance, Brian,

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Speaker 1: this is obviously a Cowboys centered Yeah. As I as

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Speaker 1: I sit there and tell you, I just can't evaluate quarters.

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Speaker 1: You know what. Could Baker Mayfield be taken ahead of Jackson? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think he's the He's I think he's

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Speaker 1: right now where we sit, he's Could he be the

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Speaker 1: third quarterback? Can be taken behind? Could he be taken

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Speaker 1: ahead of Alan? Yes, very easily. Oh yeah, I would Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. I would Baker Mayfield ahead of Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen for sure? I said, did you take him ahead

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Speaker 1: But there's no consensus on these quarterbacks. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: be surprised if you went ahead of Darnald. Um, I

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Speaker 1: the off field stuff, yea, may There's just there will

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Speaker 1: be no consensus on these quarterbacks. So anything anti Johnny Manziel, Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I think it's because is he like somebody you've

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Speaker 1: think they're overcompensating with Mayfield now when in reality, Bakers

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Speaker 1: they're just nothing alike. There's just so different. And you

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Speaker 1: Baker need to mature? Yeah he does, you know, we

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Speaker 1: but he's the same when it comes to sleep, you know,

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Speaker 1: But to me dispect, yeah, this is this is what

635
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: I who. I wrote down just to remind myself. I

636
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: haven't mean you know this. This is all subject to change,

637
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: and it's early. But I said it the other day

638
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: and I still feel that way. Like I think I

639
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: feel better about Mayfield and Lamar than I do about

640
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: the three prototype guys. Why there's gonna be I do

641
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: some people they're gonna absolutely love Jackson. Sure, they're gonna

642
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: step it up and love him. And I've said this before,

643
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: but my my My issue with Jackson again his development

644
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: as a passer, and you get so excited about him

645
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: it's because of his legs. Yeah, the mobility. There's a

646
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: lot of accuracy issues there that I question. I like

647
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: Jackson too. I think he If I'm Jacksonville and I'm

648
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: picking in the late first round, that's who I'm taking.

649
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. You add that quarterback to that offense, that'd

650
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Which Jacksonville. All right, Well,

651
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: let's hello Jacksonville. Let's get let's get nuts here and

652
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: really and Turtle's question right here. Yeah, if Mayfield or

653
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: Lamar was there at nineteen. See what I'm hoping is

654
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: that happens. So I can use that as trade bait.

655
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: You want somebody coming up get me? Yeah, Jacksonville, you're

656
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: at twenty six, you can have nineteen if you give

657
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: me this. Yeah, I'm down with that. And but should

658
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: you give more credence to take in that guy? I mean,

659
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: I feel good about Dak Prescott, but I can't sit

660
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: here and say he had the best season of his life.

661
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: So much silence right now. I just need to put

662
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: more talent around Dak Prescott. I agree, that's that's the

663
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: reason why I thought, if there was regression on Dak Prescott,

664
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: and that's all our shows on our platforms here, Yeah,

665
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: that's a you know, if there was gonna be regression

666
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: from Dak Prescott, it was gonna because the people around

667
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: him weren't going to play well enough. We saw that

668
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: this year. I would use that. I would try to

669
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: get out of that and use that quarterback to get

670
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: me more picks. That's what I would do this with

671
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, your quarterback. I'm gonna go at you here

672
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: for a second. You went thirteen and three two years ago.

673
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: There's no reason why you can't do that again with

674
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: if you make some certain changes on the on this roster,

675
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: you can go thirteen three, twelve and four. You can

676
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: win in the vision. Don't you have enough picks? Don't

677
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: you really? I mean, when you look at what you

678
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: have with your compensatories, don't you have enough picks? I

679
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: don't think helped this, right, I don't think. I know,

680
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: And that's and that's a that's a former ust me.

681
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: I know, I know everybody wants pick. I know the

682
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: Browns just fired Sashi Brown, But like, I don't think

683
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: the strategy was wrong. You just gotta pick the right players. Yeah,

684
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: the problem was it won one game out of thing.

685
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: You gotta pick, You gotta pick the right players. You

686
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta get those picks and then draft Deshaun

687
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: Watson when he's sitting in your lap. But that's the

688
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: thing is. People give Sashi Brown a lot of credit

689
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: for the Browns having the fourth pick this year, but

690
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: in reality, that should have been to Shaun Watson. So

691
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta pick the player. Which, hey, if

692
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: the guy's there, if if a dude's there, I'm not.

693
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: If a guy's there that you love at nineteen, then

694
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: just do it. But Calvin Ridley quant Smith, Sure, but

695
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: I love the idea if if you don't have a

696
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: better choice than what I mean, what would Wow, we're

697
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: getting you take Ridley over? We're getting in the myth,

698
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: We're getting in the weeds. Yes, you would? You take

699
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: really over Smith? I think so? I think really would

700
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: just be the ideal pick for this team. Yeah, his fit,

701
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: the impact, the ripple effect, I don't think I see this.

702
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: I know I'm saying that that's people are gonna keep

703
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: falling in love with these guys who I don't think

704
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: will be there him. We gotta have more names. Yeah,

705
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I tweeted this out yesterday. I will say

706
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: this about really, I do not think it's as far

707
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: fetched as people think. Just because he's an older guy,

708
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: that'll hurt him. And he's one hundred and ninety pounds

709
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: soaking wet. He's not a big guy, and I think

710
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: that teams might be scared off by that a little bit.

711
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's not even a Mariy Cooper when you

712
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: talk about size, because he's very lean, and that could

713
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: leads some Durham he does, and that's why place. Yeah,

714
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that size and the age could be

715
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: a reason why he's still available in the mid first round.

716
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: I think it's possible. I don't think do you think

717
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna go top ten? No? Okay, so we're down

718
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: to nine picks. I think I think I think he

719
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: goes somewhere tweet. I think if he's there at fifteen,

720
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: that's only four picks you're trying to move up. I

721
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: am again, I think Calvin Ridley would be the ideal

722
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: fit for what this team needs to return this offense

723
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: to being a top ten offense. And you know what,

724
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: do you do with Terrence Williams. I don't care. Just

725
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: get Calvin Ridley on my team. He's your Z from

726
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: day one, and he helps. He helps Dez, he helps Dak,

727
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: he helps, he helps everybody. Yeah, okay, Melvin wants to

728
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: know who are you most excited to see in the

729
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. I believe the rosters don't officially come out

730
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: until next week, but yeah, there's still plenty of announcements.

731
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: They're still tweaking because this is, unfortunately the time where

732
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: we hear players pull out, play players, you know, injuries, whatever.

733
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: Baker mayfields when I'm a little worried about he got

734
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: beat up against Georgia. He's a competitor, we know that,

735
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: but he doesn't really need to be there at the

736
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He's already the top wide or top senior quarterback. Uh,

737
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: it would be great to see him there. I hope

738
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: he goes, especially considering the offense he was in in

739
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and the offense the coaching he'll get the Senior

740
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: Bowl could be really beneficial for him. So I hope

741
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: he is there. But again, he got banged up in

742
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: the semifinals. One of these surprises if he pulls out

743
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: for me. I think you have to look at Josh Allen.

744
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: You know he mentioned earlier quarterback from Wyoming. He has

745
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: said over and over he wants to playing the Senior Bowl.

746
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: It looks like he will and it's gonna be a

747
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: big week for him. He's there, there's gonna be a

748
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: lot of us and oz when he steps out on

749
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: the field, his big six five, two forty pound frame,

750
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: and then when he lets go of the ball, it's

751
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: it's special. It's whistling. Oh yeah, it's it's really impressed.

752
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: I mean, Derek Carr, Matthew Stafford, I'm talking that type

753
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: of arm strength. And so in a practice setting, Josh

754
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Allen really has a chance to impress a lot of people.

755
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: Now it's practice and he's gonna be dealing with wide

756
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: receivers he's never thrown to, and so we'll see how

757
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: that works out. But Josh Allen's gonna be one of

758
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: those He's one of those mysteries that we have to

759
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: try and figure out the next few How about if

760
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: it's sticking on the quarterback theme real quick, Mason Rudolph

761
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: and then Falk Luke Falk, I don't I'm not a

762
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: big fan of either captain's like, no, Mason Rudolph, he's

763
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: brace petty to me. Cody Kessler, well, Luke Falk, Yeah,

764
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: he's got a rubber arm, and Kevin Kevin Hogan. Yeah.

765
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about all those quarterbacks at the

766
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl a couple of years ago. Winston Dak were

767
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: like the only good ones that turns out? Um, where

768
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: did I go? Bill? Wait, Okay, this is interesting to me, especially, Um,

769
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: this is a potential Cowboys need. Bill points out lots

770
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: of college tackles moved to guard in the NFL. Zach Martin,

771
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Sheriff come to mind, and you guys like that

772
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: in this year's class. Yeah, guy to watch tonight. You know,

773
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: we can talk about him a little more and a

774
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: little bit. But Isaiah Wynn left tackle for Georgia. I

775
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: think he's a starter starting NFL guard, a guy that

776
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: you can probably get in the third round. I'm a

777
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: big fan of his. I think he's gonna make that

778
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: transition very well and be be a long term Menphal starter. Yeah.

779
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of looking at just uh, just guys,

780
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: and I've looked at that. The Brandon Smith from Auburn. Yeah,

781
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: good player. Yeah, and yeah, I just played a little tackle.

782
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: They tackle he was. He played when they did unbalanced line. Yeah,

783
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: he was a lot. He did that a lot. So

784
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: he was a guy that played tackle. But he was.

785
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: But he's at a he's at a guard. I need

786
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: to go through these, uh, these underclassmen kind of tackles

787
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: and think about it. I'll give you another one. Austin

788
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: Corbett from Nevada left tackle, who I like a lot.

789
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: I think believe he's a senior Bowl guy, so I

790
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: think he's gonna make the transition to guard. So Isaiah

791
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: Win Austin Corbett two college tackles to keep in mind

792
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: for that move to guard. There you go. We already

793
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: talked about Calvin Ridley a little bit. Roderick wants to

794
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: know two of the other darlings for the Cowboys at

795
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: nineteen right now, like Vita Via or Roquan Smith More.

796
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: I like Roquan Smith more. Yeah with ya, it's Bey.

797
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: Excuse me, You're gonna get seduced by the traits. He's

798
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: so much fun to watch. Yeah, you know you haven't

799
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: seen Smith, have you? I mean you've only seen seen

800
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: I've seen Smith on TV, Yeah, not tape. Yeah, I

801
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: don't know if I've seen a player like Vea before

802
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: have I mean, at three hundred forty pounds, the athleticism,

803
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: the power, just that combination is just rare. Yeah, we

804
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: don't see it very He's a he's a unicorn. We

805
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: don't see it very often. And so you know, you

806
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: get very you get seduced by those traits and you know,

807
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: you think Kaladi Nada or you think, you know, he

808
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: could be this big impact player. I just don't see

809
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: the technique to discipline the motor on a consistent basis.

810
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: And it's tough when you're playing every snap and you

811
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: know you're asked to play nose and end and you're

812
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: moved all over. So if he has a more stable

813
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: home in the NFL, if you you know, if the

814
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys draft him and he's your you know, your one technique,

815
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: your nose, then you know, maybe it's a little more

816
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: more consistency. But I still think he's there's better traits

817
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: there than a well rounded football player, and that worries me.

818
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: And now I'd still take him in the first round

819
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: at some point because the traits are that enticing. But

820
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: at nineteen, give me real Quan Smith over veil. Yeah,

821
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: I would do that too. I think that you you

822
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: you can get more even even though Smith might not

823
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: initially play for you. I mean, I mean, or get

824
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: on the field, or however you want to do it.

825
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: I think he's just too too valuable of a guy.

826
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: Even though Vya Dange's right about him though, But man,

827
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: that is some impressive stuff watching him. He uses other

828
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: players to make if you would watch, if you watch people,

829
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: you just take the Stanford game and again, defensive tackle

830
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: from washing Ursity, Washington. You watched the Stanford game and

831
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: they tried double team him and he they tried chip,

832
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: they tried to hit him with a back, they hit,

833
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: They throw a guard at him. He just he just

834
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: throws the guard aside. The full back comes at him,

835
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: he just throws the full back to the He throws

836
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: one to the right, one to the left, and makes

837
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: the tackle right there on Love. I mean, that's just

838
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: he's that kind of guy. I mean, he is a

839
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: force force inside, which and I feel like we talked

840
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: about this, but it's a big talking point to Aaron.

841
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: Aaron wants to know will the Cowboys changed their draft

842
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: philosophy and even look at a defensive tackle at nineteen

843
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: and that's I mean nothing, it could you know, now,

844
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: nothing is impossible. If you get wiped out. If you

845
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: get wiped out and say the say the receiver that

846
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: Dane wants is not there, say Smith's not there, you

847
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: might be on the very end of your last first

848
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: round guy. Remember last year when they got down into it,

849
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: the last first round guy they had was the running

850
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: back from Florida State, Dalvin Cook, Right, Alvin Cook. They

851
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: weren't going to take Calvin Cook, but that was their

852
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: last guy. Let me ask you, is Malie Collins cemented

853
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: at a position right now? No? He looked better at

854
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: the one than he did the three. Do you think

855
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: they have a preference of where to play him. I

856
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: think they'd like to play him at the one, and

857
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: so I mean that that'll be a big question. So

858
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: if a one is there, do you yeah, I just think, well,

859
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: I think it's not cemented because we don't know what's

860
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: going to happen with David Irving like right now, I mean,

861
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're starting defensive line looks like

862
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: right now. Obviously that'll change. No, I would hope that

863
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: they play Collins in the best place for him. Sure

864
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: in yea of what what just the bodies that they

865
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: have you think? But he was so good at three

866
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: all through his rookie year. Yeah, is it possible that

867
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: is no, No, he played the one is rookie year?

868
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: It was? It was? It was, Yeah, McLain played the three.

869
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: Oh you're okay? Wow, I already forgot about Darrell mcclin.

870
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah that's so anyway, Yeah, it's I don't know if

871
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: the philosophy will change, but it might change if it

872
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: got down to the to the like, Okay, who is

873
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: the most and the stack on the stack? How do

874
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: they have the stack? If all talked about that today

875
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: in the mail back. If all of this is the case,

876
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: they need a three more than they need a one. Yeah, yeah, really,

877
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: And there's some really good there's some really good ones

878
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: this Yeah, there's a lot of ones this draft. I mean,

879
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: that's the best. The best three I saw was Hurst

880
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: so far. Yeah, Michigan, Michigan three, it's the best. I

881
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: mean him Wilkins, Clemson, that'll be a guy we'll see tonight.

882
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: Would you take him at nineteen Hurst? Would I would consider? Yes?

883
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I sure would freaking do it. I got it.

884
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: That's another Michigan guy. It's always been. It's always been

885
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: the nose tackle that they don't want a draft. Yeah,

886
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean I think they would take an under tackle

887
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: and in the first round if there was one, I

888
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: think so too. If I'm the Cowboys. I mean, I've

889
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: said this before. I just list the top nineteen players

890
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: in this draft that you would love to see in

891
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: a Cowboys uniform, right, and you're guaranteed to get one

892
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, I mean it's I know, I mean

893
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: because it doesn't always match up on like you know,

894
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: you're board and yeah, you know, just nineteen players you

895
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: would love to see. Stack. That's what the stack does.

896
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you put them in order of how you

897
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: would take them, and that's how it works, all right,

898
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: we u I okay a break. Appreciate you folks. I

899
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: was one, Um okay here it come back and we

900
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: get this break up. Okay, Yeah, and then we'll come back.

901
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: We'll do this spreak real quick. And now I'll let

902
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: you hit that question. Then we'll get into some other stuff.

903
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,960
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Speaker 1: a national championship game tonight. In all sec affair, real quick,

952
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: I did one? Well you did? I'm sorry, No, you're fine.

953
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: I just Mimi asked, and it's hard to answer this

954
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: right now before we know about compics, but she asked

955
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: how many picks did the Cowboys have? And as of

956
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: right now, I think you can probably count on them

957
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: having nine. Yeah, so you had you had a loud

958
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: usually seven. You're gonna lost them in fifth. You traded

959
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: a fifth to get Xavierwood to draft year's draft, which

960
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: they did because they knew they were going to have compisms. Yes,

961
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna get compics for Ron Leary, Barry Church

962
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: and Brandon carr If I had to guess, I don't

963
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: know about Mo claiborne, and to doubt it because deal

964
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: wasn't super big, right, and ideally you hope that Leary

965
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: pick is a third, yeah, ideally, yes, and then maybe

966
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: a fourth and a fifth or two fifths. Those tend

967
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: to be at the back end of the draft or

968
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: the back end of the round, or at the end

969
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: of the round back into the round. And this year

970
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: you can trade them, right, I would, so I would.

971
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: That would be interesting to see how that. I would

972
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: guess they're gonna have nine picks. You hope for two thirds,

973
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: but just to be on the safe side, I would

974
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: say two fourth and a fifth maybe, or two fourths

975
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: and a sixth. It's never as good as you hope

976
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: it is. You know, I've never figured that out. How

977
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: they They don't know nobody. They just kind of a

978
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray only fetched them a fourth which turned into

979
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. To be fair, but you would think that

980
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: the NFL offensive player of the year would get you

981
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: a better pick than thirty five I got you. But anyway,

982
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: so nine picks, I think. Let me ask you this,

983
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: Dame Brugler, as we sit down tonight and we all

984
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: kind of have an idea about Nick Chubb and you know,

985
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle and guys like that. You know and Smith,

986
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: you know all the Alabama guys, you know, you know,

987
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: we could get into those guys. But who are some

988
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: of the guys that you know down the line. There's

989
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: some down the line, I mean, and you could get

990
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: again if you want to talk about some of the

991
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: guys that you know that we need to watch. The

992
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: Alabama safety, you know that kind of the you know,

993
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: the corner Fitzpatrick. I'm all for that, but just kind

994
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: of go through, let's talk about some of these guys

995
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: on bow teams tonight that you know might play their

996
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: way into into some some higher draft talk. Well, it's

997
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: kind of hard to talk about these two players or

998
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: these two teams without talking about high draft picks because

999
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: yet of them are right, that's how impressive these rosters are.

1000
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: And we talked about the Alabama secondary, We've talked about

1001
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: Minca Fitzpatrick likely a top ten pick. Corner free Seefe.

1002
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: You haven't moved from that at all, have you that?

1003
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: That's when I saw that on Twitter, you said, Hey,

1004
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm not moving out of that. No, he's the top

1005
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: five player in this draft. That will not change for me.

1006
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: Um unless time you're gonna play at corner. I like

1007
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: in my corner where you know, use that size at speed,

1008
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: the technique, the instincts. It's it's similar to the Jalen

1009
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: Ramsey situation where he's played free safety's played nickel. He's

1010
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: played a little bit of everywhere. Yeah, but the impact

1011
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: and the just the value as an outside corner, I

1012
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: think Trump's everything. So I like Fitzpatrick on the outside,

1013
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: but I think you'd just be just as valuable at

1014
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: free year Nickel. Ronnie Harrison. We've talked about the strong

1015
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: safe for Alabama, Anthony Averett, the corner for Alabama. I

1016
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: think we've talked about it's the other player in that secondary,

1017
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: the other corner, Levi Wallace, who really grabbed my eye

1018
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: this year. And you know you watch Alabay and its number.

1019
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 1: It was a thirty nine out. And he's a former

1020
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: walk on, which you rarely hear about at Alabama, a

1021
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: guy that is really really a self made player. He's

1022
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: put himself in this position, very tough, very quick. The

1023
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: long speeds a question mark, he can get beat deep,

1024
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: but the toughness, the instincts, his timing and coverage is

1025
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: very good. So I think Levi wall is definitely a

1026
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: player to watch. But when you look at the matchup.

1027
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: These are two teams that like to run the ball,

1028
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: and with Jalen Hurts on one side of quarterback and

1029
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: from the troop freshman at quarterback for Georgia, where it's

1030
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: not going to change. We're gonna see both these teams

1031
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: want to set the tone with a run game, and

1032
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: that's Nick Chubb Sony Michelle for Georgia, and it's both.

1033
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: Who has the advantage there running the football? Well, I

1034
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: think it's we're just talking in a vacuum. I would

1035
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: lean towards Georgia right with better pro prospects, don't we

1036
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: feel like, Yeah, I really like Damian Harris, But I

1037
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: feel like the two at Georgia overall are better than

1038
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: the two at Alabama. But when you factor in, you

1039
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: know what defenses they're going up against, the fact that

1040
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: Georgia has to run into this Alabama defense, that's the

1041
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: big question mark. And now Alabama has been down some

1042
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: of their linebackers with injuries, but it's still that's the

1043
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: way that Nick Saban wants to play the game, control

1044
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: the ground game on offense and on defense, and I

1045
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: think they'll be able to do it, meaning that From's

1046
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: gonna have to put the ball up in the air

1047
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: going to Javon Wims at outside wide receiver. Whims celebrated himself,

1048
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: helped himself a lot former Juco kid. He's got a

1049
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: hoop's background, really athletic, long lean h We're gonna see

1050
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: a lot of back shoulder throws. That's Georgia likes to do.

1051
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: So it's we're gonna at some point a quarterback's gonna

1052
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: have to make a play, and that play could being

1053
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: the difference in this game. I think everyone wants to

1054
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: give Alabama the edge just because they've been there, they

1055
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: have that experience. Uh, and you know the Nick Saban effect.

1056
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: I like Georgia close, I'm gonna give them the edge.

1057
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean, twenty seven, twenty fourth type of game. I

1058
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: hope you're I hope it's that entertaining. Yeah, I was

1059
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: just watched. I mean, I mean, I know, you know

1060
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: he watched playoff football all weekend and got disgusted. No,

1061
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: yesterday's games were I mean, okay, Jacksonville Jacksonville Buffalo wasn't great,

1062
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: but the Saint the Saints game was great and the

1063
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: Sean Payne decided to go for it on fourth and two.

1064
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: I was stupid. The Falcons Rams game was at least entertaining,

1065
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: if not close. Um, who do you like? I mean,

1066
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: who do you mean not? I just get the game.

1067
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm just saying those layers. He mentioned a lot of

1068
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: players I had. I had a question for Dane I

1069
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: I know, I know, Clemson just beat him, and they've

1070
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: played a couple of classics with Clemson, but they had

1071
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: transcendent quarterback play. I just I've seen too many of

1072
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: these games where even if the score looks close, you

1073
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: just never have a doubt that BAM is gonna win.

1074
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the score against Clemson last week never got

1075
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: out of hand. The year before that, when they played

1076
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: Washington in the in the semi final, the play at

1077
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: the score never really got out of hand, but you

1078
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: just knew that that the other team didn't have what

1079
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: it took. And I don't trust an eighteen year old

1080
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: kid to get the better of a Nick Saban defense.

1081
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: I think fight to guess, I think Bama will win

1082
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: something like twenty four to third, and they're almost mirror teams,

1083
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: and Nick Saban knows what the next time a team

1084
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: out Bama's, Bama will be the first because I mean

1085
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: LSU did it once and it took every fiber of

1086
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: their being and they had to play them again and

1087
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: they got drilled right because in past, you know, when

1088
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: Alabama is lost, it's usually been to a mobile quarterback, right,

1089
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: the spread up tempo scheme, and Georgia's more of the

1090
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: pro styles, more of what Alabama wants to do. So no,

1091
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. Um My question was, we've

1092
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: beaten me. We've beaten Roquan Smith into the ground already,

1093
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: even though this is only our second show. But there's

1094
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: got to be some more defenders on that Georgia defense

1095
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: that are looking at And I know there's one guy

1096
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's going to the draft.

1097
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: I know that he's got some baggage. Led Betters, he flashed,

1098
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: he shows some stuff on that defensive line. John Atkinson

1099
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: knows tackle led better at defensive end, Trenton Thompson the

1100
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: other defensive end. Those guys are all future pros. The

1101
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: outside linebacker Lorenzo Carter, number seven, could have a big

1102
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: impact in this game because you know Jalen Hurts wants

1103
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: to run the ball right, so number seven, Lorenzo Carter

1104
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: has to be able to play contain, but also get

1105
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: after the quarterback and make him move his feet. That

1106
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, the Alabama passing game is not He's not

1107
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: going to beat you. But we want that guy at nineteen, right,

1108
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: the wide receiver, the fact that he's had the career

1109
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: he has with the quarterback. Sure, you say, the guy

1110
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: from the same thing, the guy in Atlanta and Julio

1111
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: had I know, like I know, Greg McElroy and John

1112
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: Parker Wilson, Like ye, John Parker Wilson, they were better passing,

1113
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: great name, they were better passing quarterbacks than than Jayleen

1114
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: her That's true. I was straight up. I was kind

1115
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: of trolling you there a little. Yeah. I mean, no,

1116
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: you're right about led better and just long arms balanced,

1117
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: You're right about the baggage. But if he is he

1118
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna make a decision or is he definitely going back

1119
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: to school doesn't make a decision. Okay, So we'll see

1120
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: what decision he makes. And Alabama's got plenty of guys,

1121
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: and you make a decision. To Ron Payne, if he

1122
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: comes down, he could be a first round those tackle um,

1123
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: what other mean, con Fitzpatrick, we expect to come out.

1124
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Ronny Urson, we expect to come out. From the perspective

1125
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: of a Cowboys fan, I'm just looking at the defenses

1126
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: in this game. I mean, okay, Calvin Ridley makes a

1127
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: lot of sense, but like a Sony Michelle in the

1128
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: third round, if if he falls that far, sure I

1129
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: thought I think of him as like a second round

1130
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: Well I do too, but with the so many running backs,

1131
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, if possible if Sony Michelle is there when

1132
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys picking the third by all means, But like

1133
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, I don't expect to be there. Honestly, Calvin Ridley,

1134
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: I don't expect to be there or or nor do

1135
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: you need Nick Chubb for that matter, Damien Harris, I mean, okay, whatever.

1136
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: I just there aren't a lot offensive players in this

1137
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: game that really concern me for the Cowboys. There's a

1138
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: ton of defensive talent that I'm like, yeah, they could

1139
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: use that. Let's look at that about Evans the linebacker.

1140
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean he said about him with the senior that's

1141
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: Alabama linebacker thirty two. I can ask them about him

1142
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: a lot, and That's what I'm saying. Yeah, answer every

1143
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: time is I need to see him a senior Bowl

1144
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: just because I need to see him outside of that

1145
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: Alabama system with what he's asked to do. He's asked

1146
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: to primarily come downhill, he'll put his hand on the

1147
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: ground and yeah, I mean you'll see him rushing more

1148
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: to night than probably anything, don't you think? Good chance? Yeah?

1149
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: And so I want to see him in space. I

1150
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: want to see him cover running backs on a consistent basis.

1151
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 1: And we'll get that at the Senior Bowl. We'll see

1152
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: him in space. And so I have the drills and stuff.

1153
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to see that before I make any final

1154
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: decisions at Evans. I like him. He's a really good player. Yeah,

1155
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: I just his evaluation to this point is it's a

1156
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: little incomplete for me. Were we wrong about Ruben Foster

1157
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: last year? In what context? Just where, how late he went,

1158
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: how beat up he was, all that stuff. I'd have

1159
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: to go listen to the show again. But I don't

1160
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: think they're not wrong. I'm just saying I don't think

1161
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: anybody on the show said he wasn't a good no, no, no.

1162
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: I think as a scouting community where we were, we

1163
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: were quick to dismiss him because we always talk about

1164
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: the Alabama linebackers always beat up. You have to see

1165
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: him blah blah. But I mean I'm not doing blah

1166
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: blah blah because of you. I'm just saying, as as

1167
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: amazing as he looked through year one, hadn't that hasn't

1168
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 1: that criticism kind of held up. I mean, he's he's

1169
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: gotten hurt. So we had an all through training camp.

1170
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: He he felt me with various happened at the seat,

1171
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: at the at the combine, the whole thing. The off

1172
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: the field. I'm not I'm not an ex spot. You know.

1173
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: I haven't been following him closely, but it seems like

1174
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: every two or three weeks he was on the injury report. No,

1175
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: he's banged up in that game against thele to play. Yeah,

1176
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: So I don't think talent was ever the question. It's

1177
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: just trying to manage the off field indurability. So and

1178
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: that's something that I think the forty nine ers will

1179
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: have to do through the duration of his contract. Yeah.

1180
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 1: Having said that, I'd like to have him right now. Wait,

1181
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: based on what's going off the Cowboys linebackers and where

1182
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: he fell, taking him at twenty eight might not have

1183
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: been the worst idea, not a bad idea at all. Hey,

1184
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: Ken't I know we got a couple of minutes left.

1185
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: Do we have any calls. Yeah, we got Brian and

1186
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: Waco again. Brian go ahead. Hey, hey, pleasure list and

1187
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: you gentlemen this morning. I have a quick question for

1188
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: you one or chief guys have thought about this um

1189
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: since Dallas is hosting the draft this year, do you

1190
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: kind of see you know, Jerry being the eternal optimist

1191
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 1: that he is, you can kind of see him being

1192
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: more likely to take riff and move up in the

1193
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: first if a Calvin Ridley's maybe you know, four or five,

1194
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: maybe six spots ahead, I can I can kind of

1195
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: see that's where he might would move up in the

1196
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: first be more willing to maybe move up again him

1197
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: a third. Just kind of want to make a big

1198
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: splash for the hometown team. I just kind of want

1199
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on that. Appreciate it, Thank you.

1200
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: I would hope if he's and hey, they have not

1201
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: done a lot of moving up there last I mean

1202
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: since Travis Frederick and that was a move back I

1203
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: think the last time they traded up in the first round. Yeah,

1204
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: they did it for right, they did it for Moe,

1205
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: and they did it for Dez. So that's two. That's

1206
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 1: twenty ten and twenty twelve, so it's been a little while.

1207
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: I would hope if he does that it's because it

1208
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: makes sense and not because he wants to appease people

1209
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: watching the draft at the stadium. That's just it. Yeah,

1210
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to make do what's best for

1211
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: the team and the roster and making this franchise better,

1212
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: not whole letting your emotions hold you captive to make

1213
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: a decision for you know, one weekend. Yeah, and you

1214
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: know to that. I know the draft wasn't here, but

1215
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: if that was their game, Johnny Manziel would have been

1216
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: a cowboy. Yeah, So I don't worry about that. But

1217
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: like I mean, we talked about it earlier in the show.

1218
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: If yeah, if Calvin Ridley is there fifteen and the

1219
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: price isn't too high and it makes sense, by all means,

1220
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: do it because it makes sense for your team. We

1221
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: need to investigate that too. We need to get a

1222
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: lot more names. I mean, I feel like, yeah, we

1223
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: like set locked in on nine but nineteen, but we

1224
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: need to get some more. We need a wider net. Yeah,

1225
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: we do it. We'll get there. We will get there.

1226
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: We'll investigate and educate for sure. Okay for my scouting buddies,

1227
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: Dame Burglar for David Hellman. Brian brought us Hey. We'll

1228
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: be back with you Thursday at eleven am for another

1229
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: edition of the Draft Show. Also, again, I want to

1230
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: thank Ken Garrison for driving us along here. Make sure

1231
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: you check us out on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, the periscope,

1232
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: stuff iTunes. I'd love to see the comments that you

1233
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: make about the show. If you feel like you need

1234
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: to rate it, give us a rate. We'll be happy

1235
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: to h to greet those comments. And again, we appreciate

1236
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: the fans out there for all they do for us,

1237
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: So take care. We'll see it Thursday. This has been

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