WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Trey Wingo Visits 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.440 The following. He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:12.920 Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This he's 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:17.360 Talking Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys World head 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.880 Horse at the Star in Frisco. Elliot flowing to the 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:30.440 list and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:36.320 Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's it is a sayer with 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:41.040 your chest Friday here on Talking Cowboys. It is Chiefs Week, 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:45.559 Cowboys Chiefs. It is week eleven of the NFL season, 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.960 and we've got one more show to lay it all 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.400 out on the table. But because we have a dandy 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.160 of a matchup this weekend, We've previewed the offense ve 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.480 defense the last two days and we are going to 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:03.640 hit it hard today. Oh heck My Harris should call 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:05.679 it out the Texas A and M Swacker. No, I'm 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.160 just saying I like that. It is. It's nice. Rob's 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.320 got a gradient Texas A and M drive fit on. Yeah. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.399 Is it Columbia Yes, sponsor, Yeah, celeb the loss from 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.440 last Saturday, you know, freaking bounce back here. Yeah, you 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.440 got it. But you know what I want to ask you? Yeah? 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:25.880 You made me wait a hold twenty four hours for it. Oh, 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.520 go ahead and remind you. You don't have a guy, 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.120 Go ahead and remind her. Come on, man, you with 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:34.119 fifty fifty Oh Smith returning, So come on now, give 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:38.560 me give me some percentages here, Crystal Ball, seventy percent? 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.440 How about that seven I'm up to seventy. Now that's 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:46.480 failing in grad school. Okay it's not. But but you 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.680 know what school the week, the work week is like 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:54.080 seventy seventy five percent, So like, yeah, they still got Saturday. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.440 But I think yeah, I think they feel good about 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.440 it or optimistic. Still still working with Britt Brown? Is 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.040 that you know? He was limited again, limited again. But 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.520 Mike was on the fan this morning, Mike McCarthy and said, 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.920 you know, they want to just get him three days 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.720 of practice, get him in Saturday and then before they 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.119 could cut him loose on Sunday, as what he said. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.280 So they didn't make you feel better, did it? No? 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.560 I think that sounds pretty encouraging. We'll see a bit 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.280 of anything. Think cakes, now, do you need him at 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.799 one hundred percent or you okay with seven percent? Man, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.359 I need him if he's at seventy percent, I don't 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.760 want him to play. No, I'm saying I'm seventy percent. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.440 I know, I'm just saying, would you take a seventy 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.560 percent Tyrann No, No, No, not at this point in 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.880 the year, because because then then you got to turn 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.440 around four days later and play again. So they told you, hey, 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:40.480 he won't be one hundred percent for three more weeks. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:46.959 You guys say, just hold off. That's tough because it's 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:48.959 not like you look at this matchup and be like, yeah, 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.160 we can get through this. No, and you can't really 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.720 say that about any of the next three matchups either. Yeah. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.959 Think of the edge rushers that the Raiders have coming 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:00.640 off the edge there. They've got some guys. Yeah, it's that. Look, 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.440 I know we need him. I want him to play. 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.880 I know we're considerably better when he does play. Chris 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.119 Jones obviously, Frank Clark, those guys are hunters. They will 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.600 come after you. You don't want them to get a 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.920 lick on Dak. So that's my that's my only concern. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.360 But also, like you said, I know, the next three 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.360 games and the short amount of time that we have 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.760 to play him is also a factor. I just, man, 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.880 I'm just this whole high ankle sprain. If you have 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.360 any experience with high ankle sprains, is it a sprainer 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:32.560 or a bone spur? Spurs is what's kept him out? 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.120 He had any irritating things though, Yeah, Like sprain goes away, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.680 bone spur doesn't go away unless you get surgery. Yeah, 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.440 that's that's the thing. It's more of a limitation deal, right, 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.120 Just exposure too. I mean, just imagine having this bone 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.640 sticking out and it keeps you rubbing against your tending 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.120 like it's not going the bones not going anywhere. I 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.120 don't want to imagine that. What I'm just saying, that's 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.040 what he's dealing with, right, I mean, it's not going anywhere. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:55.720 They have to live. They literally have to go shave 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.480 it down. I don't know the whole thing. I haven't 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.880 seen as his his um, his emma. I haven't seen 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.200 his dog x rays. But my understanding and guys of 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.760 have bones spurs. It's literally a bone that's kind of 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.320 sticking out like a little little flans there and it's 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.480 just rubbing, and that's what irritates you. And ask what 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.560 you know prevents you've been being at your best? Really 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.200 quickly rob any other news and notes from yesterday that 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.640 stuck out from practice number two of the week. Greg 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.600 Zirline is off of COVID list. He was back at practice, 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.040 so he's ready to go for Sunday. Is back. I 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:29.320 think the only change from the injury report was well, 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.440 Calvin Joseph had a personal matter, did not practice and 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.279 the Sean Wright went from full to limited yesterday with 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.880 the hamstream that he's dealing with, okay, and news and 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.120 notes wise, Mike McCarthy was asked on the fan this morning, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:48.080 any lineup changes left guard? Can you confirm possibility that 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.840 Connor McGovern might start over Connor Williams And he would 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.360 not do that. And what he said was, I'll say 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.360 this to some fact, he said, I'll say this, both 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.960 Connors will play Sunday. We'll both Connors have been playing Sunday. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.080 So it depends on what the roles are. Obviously, Connor 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:03.919 McGovern back in the slot. So what we're gonna have 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.200 Connor Williams if we'll back now, now he's got to 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.480 swap telback and telback. That's right. He did line up 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.440 at telback Tebay. All right. We've got a special guest 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.680 on the line. He is an aficionado of the NFL 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:20.640 and all sorts of sports. TV Radio podcast host Trey Wingo, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:25.040 lfelong Cowboys fan, joins us here on Talking Cowboys. Trey, 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.240 thanks for joining us. What's going on in your world? Well, 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.320 I'm trying to figure out how many connors will play, right, 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.719 that's that's how many? And how often would you put 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.719 Connor McGovern over Connor Williams at that spot? Are you 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.720 you keeping Connor McGovern as that full back ache back option? 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.480 I like, I think i'd like to see Connor McGovern 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.520 Jenna get a shot there. You know, there's been a 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.280 lot of shuffling on the line this year because of 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.040 both things, and I think that i'd like to see 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.160 mcgovernor you to get a look in there. To start. Now, 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.360 you you have grown up a Cowboys fan. You've been 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.000 a Cowboys fan for your entire life. And with that 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:09.560 being said, you've seen some pretty monumental matchups throughout your 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.080 fandom of the Dallas Cowboys. Where does this one rank 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.280 in terms of regular season matchups leading into it? With 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.279 the quarterback battle, the offense is going back and forth? 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.400 Does this rank up toward the top of the list 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.520 in some of those battles? Well, it can. I mean 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.520 it should if you go by the numbers. I mean, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.360 let's just let's just run through a couple of things here. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.280 The Cowboys of the number one offense in the NFL, 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.960 the Chiefs of the number two offense in the AFCs. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.480 So together they're averaging eight hundred and thirty nine yards 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.960 combined of offensive per games. And if you're looking for 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.640 a historical perspective on that, the last time we had 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.279 a matchup with those kind of numbers this late in 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:50.480 the season was the twenty eighteen Monday Night games between 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.320 the Chiefs and the Rams, and you might remember that 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.600 one and in fifty four fifty one, So like, if 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.840 you're looking for historical perspectives on the kind of offense 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.400 we've seen throughout the season and what to expect, that 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.240 was the last time we had a matchup of this 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.760 much offense going into a game this late in the season. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.520 And put it another way, Dak has twenty touchdown passes 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.280 moms as twenty five. The last time we had a 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.400 matchup with two quarterbacks with those number of touchdown passes 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.200 this early in the season was that same Monday Night 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.000 game between the Chiefs and the Ram that ended up 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.920 fifty four fifty, so it has all the makings. So, 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.239 as Michael Gallup said, get your popcorn ready for something, 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:39.560 I think the scoreboard operator Arrowhead should prepare for carpal tunnel. Hatre, 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.400 I've enjoyed your work for a long time. We were 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:45.680 having a discussion yesterday about the Cowboys and how they're 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.920 viewed nationally. Obviously you've covered this team in this league 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.400 for a long time. How do you feel the league 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.480 or the media covers the Cowboys or views the Cowboys? 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.200 Because I think fans feel like maybe they're not getting 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.360 enough due and the haters will say they're always getting 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.440 pumped up too much. Like do you think it's somewhere 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.040 in the middle with the way this team's being viewed 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.160 this year so far at seven and two. Well, listen, 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.960 I think all the haters love the Denver game, right. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:14.240 We told you man, they're fraud whatever. But those are 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.640 just the haters. I mean, like, Cowboys have been arguably 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.560 the most consistent team of football the start of the season. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.560 I mean, that's nice to see the Gregs or Lions 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.400 off the COVID list. You might have needed to be 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.320 on the COVID list. League one of the Cowboys would 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:30.040 have won that game. Being honest about wanting this partick, 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:31.640 I guess one of them was a fifty plush yarder. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:32.920 But if he makes the extra point, year of the 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.120 field goals and then in that Week one win, Campa 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:36.440 Bay doesn't need a field goal to win, they need 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.480 a touchdown. That's completely different from dynamic. So the biggest 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:41.160 change for me and the Cowboys this year has been 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.319 their defense. Obviously, they were historically horrible last year and 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.240 what dan Quinn has done moving them around it and 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.800 it's allowing them to get those takeaways. It's just such 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.000 a huge difference from a year ago. So I would 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.640 say that the perspective of the Cowboys is, Yeah, I 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.080 think most people think they're really good, but I think 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.560 if we're being honest, questions about some of the things 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:05.280 Mike McCarthy does, and you know whether or not this 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.280 team is going to be able to get it together 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.400 when it goes in the postseason. But they've been really, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.880 really good guys outside of the Denver game all year 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.240 along Hey Trey was something this is Isaiah, a pleasure 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.280 to pleasure to eat, meet you, I guess or virtually 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.720 meet you, appreciate you coming up the show. Hey, listen up. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.480 If you have you sitting up there, you walking into park, 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.080 you're you're right there, right there, and oh in downtown 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.000 New York, and you have two cups sitting on the 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.000 table and you have their full up offense. Is this 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.800 Dallas offense and the Kansas City offense and they're both 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.120 at full steam? Which cup are you picking to go 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.560 forward in terms of being your best offense that you 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.760 can step into this name with. Well, listen, there's two 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.240 ways to look at that, right, I would think without 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.560 a question, be cup with the Cowboys offense. Anyway, these 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.800 are really big cups we're talking about to figure out 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.360 how big I can pick up this cup. I think 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.800 the Cowboys offense is probably more balanced, right, I mean 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.720 we know that they're more balanced than maybe a little 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:02.240 more methodical Chiefs offense, however, is lightning that couple? And 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.160 I know they had three bad games in a row. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.760 But even before those three bad games, when people are 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.920 saying what's rowing the Chiefs offense to the first six 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.040 games of the season, they were averaging more yards per game, 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.120 more points per game, had about a third down conversion 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.720 rate per game, and a better red zone touchdown conversion 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.480 rate than either of the last two years, and then 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.360 went to the Super Bowl. So a whole narrative about 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.520 the Chiefs office being broken was just a joke. I mean, 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.120 they were turning the ball over, That's what it was. 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:28.680 And then, by the way, they had a couple of 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.839 bad games in a row. I think the Cowboys offense 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.080 presents a more balanced attack, but the Chiefs offensive then 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.000 shared the hell out of people. Trey, it sounds like 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.280 you're a males diner right now, man, So I actually am. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:46.040 I'm having all breakfast. Hey man, I'm a man that 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.959 recognizes when you're you're eating something. So I'm just saying, man, 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.120 if it sounds sounds exactly like that, But I gotta 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:55.800 ask you more about the MVP racing. Also, obviously Patrick 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.800 mahomes is, you know, aside from a offsides, he would 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.440 have appeared in three Super Bowls, And when it comes 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.640 down to him being the MVP of the league for 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:10.640 two years and Dak emerging as an MVP leader, how 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.000 do you break down both of these quarterbacks? And obviously 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.680 this is a singular award, but how big would it 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.559 be for either of those guys? Specifically Dak to win 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.880 the MVP. Well, listen, I think that the Mahomes narrative 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:24.400 out there this year, which to him. I think it's 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.800 from what fogus is. He's gonna have time, He's gonna 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.439 have to light it up for him to get the MVP. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.079 I mean, I think people are looking at Josh Allen 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.640 and Lamar Jackson quite frankly, I know people are sick 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.439 of it, But tell me why Tom Brady isn't in 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.000 the conversation like a forty four years old. I mean, 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.280 the things he's doing are just ridiculous. And Matthew Stafford 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.800 is there too, So I think there's there's more of 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.480 a potential for Dak with a huge surge down the 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.720 back half to sort of capture other ward. Like Mahomes 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.280 just so good guys, and you know the Cowboys of 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.520 the nineties were this way. People are looking for reasons 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.319 to hate them, you know, you know what I mean, 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:03.400 Like people come up with these ridiculous theories about Mahomes 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.920 and it's just because he's so otherworldly. So I just 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.040 feel like when Michael Jordan's when Charles Parkley win the 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.160 NBA MVP one year in the NBA said thanks for 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:16.280 Michael for not having his best season, and I feel 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.040 like that's the way it's gonna be with with Mahomes 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:22.480 going forward. My absolutely think Jack is his prime too 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:26.040 much to have a much better shot at becoming the 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.360 MVP this year if he has a really stellar game 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:34.160 on Sunday and also what happened down the strategy. No, no, 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.760 and I'm glad to hear that. But you're saying that 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.160 he has to light it up, like he literally has 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.600 to be hair on fire for the rest of the 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.120 season to win. I mean, I mean it, But let's 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.520 be honest. Let the MVP is it's the best quarterback 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.400 on the best team. Okay, That's that's what the league 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.240 has become, right, That's I'm not saying it's right or wrong. 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.160 I'm saying it is like you know, some some of 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.320 the other seasons that we've had from other players, and 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.280 they don't even get a sniff because they're not a quarterback. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.000 So you know, you can make a pelling argument outside 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:02.480 of the Monday Night game, the Cooper Cup could be 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:07.079 the MVP. He's get close to Megatron's numbers this year 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.079 in nineteen hundred yards and one hundred thirty five receptions 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.200 and twenty touchdowns. I mean, that's those are insane numbers. 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.720 He's never going to win because he's not a quarterback. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.440 All right, Trey, we're giving our predictions later in the show, 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.000 so we'll add this to the list. But who you 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.360 got this week? Cowboys or Chiefs at Arrowhead? Who you 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.199 got coming out on top of? Well, the worst thing 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.000 you can say as well, that's the Chiefs are three 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:32.960 and oh against the NFC eas this year, well, the 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:36.560 other three teams in the NFC East. Let's just be honest. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.240 The Cowboys don't win this division by three games, and 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.839 everyone's gotta go Okay, the division is terrible. It's a 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.360 terrible division this year. However, I feel like the Chiefs 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.480 are a little tested off, and I obviously I think 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:53.080 being at home helps them. Nothing would surprise me in 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.120 this game because I believe the Cowboys have been the 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:56.640 most Like I said, I think they've been the most 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.240 consistent team all year long. But I feel like the 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.560 Chiefs are than everybody, So like, really, you thought you 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.640 thought this about our offense, you thought this? And their 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.520 defense has played really well the last three games, and 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.040 their defense just needs to play average if their offense 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.600 is good. If there, if their defense is average and 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.640 their offense does what it's done, is Kansas City could 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.360 prop bomp six straight wins. So I am leaning towards 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.480 Kansas City. But again, nothing would surprise me with the 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.040 way things have gone this year. This is the most 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.880 week to week season I can remember in covering the NFL. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.040 I know that hurts you to do. I know that 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.440 hurts you deep down inside. I know that was that 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:36.000 was tough for you to do. But hey, I appreciate 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.200 you being honest. I'm okay with that. I love it. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.760 I love it very much. Well, thank you so much 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.800 for taking some time to talk with us during your 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.440 breakfast this morning. Hope it was tasty what you have? Oh? 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.640 I had a little steak Tahita. Omelet with you. Man, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.920 Come on now, my good I know I know how 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:58.080 to eat. I know Texas people. No, not at all. 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.480 That sounds delicious. You guys doing anything to the show? 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:05.160 You holding on your all right? Trey, thanks so much. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.120 We'll talk to you soon. Thank you so much. And 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.000 Tray Wingham, of course, he's done great work throughout his 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.600 career covering the NFL. Still has a great podcast as well. 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.160 Let me go ahead and shout him out there. Didn't 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.160 know he was a Cowboy fan, huge Cowboys. He's not 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:23.240 from Texas. Uh No, he went to Baylor, graduated from Baylor. Okay, 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.680 sick him sick, embarrassed. So yeah, he's got that connection there. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.440 Chris off the top rope, Chris loves a Baylor. He 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.200 half Forgotten History is his podcast, Give it a check out. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.480 He's got a lot of great people, great guests on 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.520 there too. He does really really good work. I've looked 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.080 up to him for a long time as a host 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.240 and back in his NFL Live and Draft Days and stuff. 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.880 You're looking at the great resource man. Oh yeah, so 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.360 he's been he's been a voice of the league for 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.400 a long time. Knowledge Yeah, yes, yeah, he definitely is. 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.440 You could you could hear some of the different perspectives. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:53.960 But the one thing that made me laugh was in 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.360 his final answer was the Chiefs offense, as good as 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.520 they are, their defense just has to be average and 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.240 set off a light bulb. I's like, wow, where have 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.760 we heard that before? Right around here? It sounds just 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:07.880 like here done it, But he brought it. He brought 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.160 up something interesting. Although the Cowboys are probably considered the 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.480 underdogs here, you know, because the Chiefs have had so 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.200 much success, there's probably more a chip on their shoulder 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.120 because people are trying to find ways to poke holes 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.080 and what they're doing this year and everything they haven't 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.280 been they haven't been that good as good this year, 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.080 as good to their standard six and four, they're still good. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.160 It's a high standard. It's a high, high star, very 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.800 high standard. When you go to three straight championship games 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.640 and then you have two straight Super Bowls and one 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.360 of those you want, Yeah, you're gonna be held to 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.640 a high standard. It kind of goes back to and 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.520 you probably dealt with this during your time in New 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:44.080 England the Patriots dynasty. Every year if they weren't winning 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.400 the Super Bowl, people were poking holes in it, trying 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.240 to say, Okay, that ship is sinking, and then I mean, 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.840 of course they never really were any holes, but if 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.600 there were, they were covered up. I don't know if 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.080 you do that when you go to nine Super Bowls, though, 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:57.440 you know, if you know what I'm saying, if you 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.800 are consistency, can you know that you have the best 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.600 coach in the league. If you don't finish, it's something 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:06.439 there's a there's a reason for it, and you know 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:10.119 you'll be back next year. Kansas City is probably just 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.760 to your point, Kansas City is the same way. Hey man, 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.560 people get sick of winners. That's why the Cowboys and 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:19.040 parts are so hated because it goes back sixty years 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.160 of five Super Bowls and all that stuff. So yeah, 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:26.000 there is yeah, but did you have to deal with 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.800 any of that from a national standpoint of trying to 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.520 poke holes in a team that you knew you didn't 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.399 need to poke holes in because you knew you were 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.240 had you had that confidence, you have that foundation, not 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.040 necessarily there. I mean I think I felt that more here, 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.160 and there hasn't been a championship here and a good 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.679 wow wow. You know, I'm just the facts, right. That's interesting. 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.080 I mean, just because of the amount of media attention, 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.320 just because of this, the fan base, all that kind 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.879 of stuff, the expectation levels are always so high, and 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.800 it necessarily hasn't always been grasped versus out there, because 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.680 you know, right, I think it's I think it's more 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.639 hopeful here. It's been more hopeful here in Alice, in 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.840 New England. My time there, it's like it's like, we 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.040 know we are good, we know we have a good foundation. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.159 If we don't make it, yeah, to Heck's point, we 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.880 know why, right, that will be check that box. Let's 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:12.560 correct that. Come back in all season. We'll be back 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.800 next year. It's not a hope, it's I can identify it. 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.560 I can put my finger on it. It's getting addressed. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.520 And now we're gonna get be right back in that game. Right, 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.520 we'll be exactly where we want to be versus here. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.280 I feel like people are still hoping and can't kind 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.639 of grasping onto the past and saying, oh it feels 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.159 like it like it did back then. It's like what's tangible? Right, 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.399 what's tangible? So it's like actually just grasping that thing 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:34.920 and being a check the box and say this is 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:36.840 what we need to address. Once we fix that, will 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.480 be exactly where we want to be. That's good. That's 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.080 good stuff. You know what, Because hope is not a strategy. Nope, 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.720 all right, yeah, hope is. And we can't this is this, 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.960 this is the change, and when you see it change, 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.359 you can't. Well, man, we're gonna this is a trap 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.720 every week. Oh, it's a trap game. Oh we gonna 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.800 have a let down here. What's seven and two? Bill 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.800 Parcel said, you are what your records as you are. 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.960 Say that and seven and we're seven to two right now, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.480 Why don't we get the recognition. I'm not downplaying what 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.600 Kansas City has done. I'm not downplaying what Patrick Mahomes 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.880 has done. He's one of the best in the business. 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.960 But there's a part of me that says, you what 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:17.200 used to be, we are what is today, and look 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.480 and we are defensively, defensively all of those things that 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.159 people are. Man just want them to go ahead and 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:24.840 fold the tent and go ahead and be what they 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.040 used to be. We ain't that no more. We show 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.760 up at your stadium with the bazooka number eleven. So 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:36.200 but y'all say saying, with your chance, Friday, I want 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:41.119 you so passionate in That's the thing is because, like 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.159