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Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving the Grid? Episode four twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: As always, this episode of What Driving the Grid is

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Speaker 1: brought to you by boost Mobile. Not as always, we

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Speaker 1: are from a hotel room on the West Coast, as

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Speaker 1: I maybe just live here now. Who knows it would

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Speaker 1: appear flights may resume tonight. I'm not certain of it.

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Speaker 1: It could have been worse. Old kW I think avoided

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Speaker 1: being caught literally in the center of a Mexican cartel

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Speaker 1: war by twelve hours, and so he justice. You know,

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Speaker 1: there have been a you know from what's hey, Demon's

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Speaker 1: good to see you had a great weekend with you, buddy,

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Speaker 1: the So you know, it could be worse. I'm not right. Legitimately,

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Speaker 1: scary stuff going on south of here. This is just

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Speaker 1: a pain in the butt travel. And so I do

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Speaker 1: think I'll be back in our regular studio for TV

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Speaker 1: and the regular studio for the podcast by tomorrow, maybe

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Speaker 1: by Thursday.

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Speaker 2: I would be.

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Speaker 1: Surprised if not. And again, if it's Friday and I'm

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Speaker 1: still here, I just might move here. Demandsday's on this coast,

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Speaker 1: My daughter's on this coast.

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Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows? My wife's families out here so that

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Speaker 1: that's what it is, but we still wanted to bring

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Speaker 1: you guys to a show we were you know, we

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Speaker 1: talked last week, and there's a lot to do because

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Speaker 1: in the last week I did play in that poker

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Speaker 1: game and I will save the recap for it later

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Speaker 1: in the show if you weren't following it. But it

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Speaker 1: went tremendously and I also created a bit of a

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Speaker 1: rivalry and there's just there's real so that that'll be

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Speaker 1: a fun show at the end. We have some NFL

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Speaker 1: and NBA to get to in the middle, and I

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Speaker 1: want to talk some Winter Olympics. But before we do

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Speaker 1: any of that, straight voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile.

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Speaker 1: The Falcons are franchise tagging Kyle Pitts. I I don't

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Speaker 1: really think he fills a huge need for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: but I've always kind of envisioned him as a chief,

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Speaker 1: So that's a bit of a bummer for me. Mayweather

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Speaker 1: Pa rematch. Why is why is what.

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Speaker 2: You always envisioned him as a chief? Cal Pits?

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Speaker 1: I just thought because he he is such a singularly

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Speaker 1: talented past catching receiver. The two are past catching tight

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Speaker 1: end tight end. The two greatest past catching tight ends

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Speaker 1: ever Tony Gonzalez and Travis Kelcey were both Chiefs. He

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Speaker 1: is kind of disappointed uh in Atlanta because he was

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Speaker 1: a top five pick and so I thought after his

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Speaker 1: rookie deal, he moves on and then tries to rebuild

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Speaker 1: his value for a year with the Chiefs. But it

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Speaker 1: doesn't look like that's going to happen. Mayweather Paqiao rematch set.

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Speaker 1: That is not the boxing match that I want to see,

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Speaker 1: but I will be watching it. And the NFL Combine

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Speaker 1: is underway. So that is straight voicemail brought to you

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Speaker 1: and some NFL offseason stories, rule changes, AJ Brown and

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Speaker 1: the like. Let's get to the Winter Olympics.

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Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, so I thought tennis corner was tough,

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Speaker 3: but thanks to the Winter Olympics, we have figure skating corner.

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Speaker 2: Uh, take it away, pops.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing, and this is you know, I

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Speaker 1: joked about this with kW on TV yesterday that he

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Speaker 1: always says I love sport, not sports. I love sport.

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Speaker 1: And there are moments in the Olympics in particular where

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Speaker 1: get to the hockey in a moment, which should have

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Speaker 1: just been an awesome story. But because we just live

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Speaker 1: on the dumbest timeline, there's you know, a tiny bit

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Speaker 1: to be some controversy in the Alissa lou figure Skating

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Speaker 1: I do not know anything about figure skating. When I'm

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Speaker 1: watching I can see if somebody did more rotations than

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Speaker 1: the previous jump, but I don't know if something's a

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Speaker 1: So if you watched alyssa lose four and a half

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Speaker 1: They say two minutes in, I was like, am I

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I can't explain it. I don't

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Speaker 1: And then afterwards you read about her story and about how,

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Speaker 1: And then you have, for the first time in my life,

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Speaker 1: for the first time since the miracle on ice, team

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Speaker 1: USA Hockey wins the gold over Canada. Canada, you know,

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Speaker 3: Oh, what's the best sports comparison you could think of

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Speaker 1: Well, I do think it would it would have been

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you carry us, kiddo? And so the I

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Speaker 1: All right, demonse, let's talk some hoops now if we can.

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Speaker 3: Uh not Tatum, no problem. Jalen Brown has carried my

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Speaker 1: Listen, and he's he's always said, maybe more often than

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Speaker 1: And it's got to be about what you've actually accomplished

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Speaker 3: And what do you think our ceiling is with that?

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Speaker 1: Well? So this is no, this is where it gets complicated. Right,

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, like, how do I get back in?

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Speaker 1: And let's just walk down the different paths. Right? The

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That probably avoids the most criticism Towarre's achilles in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: I don't think, but there would still be some level

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Speaker 1: of ah man if he could have just come back

435
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Speaker 1: for the playoffs, could we have won the title? Right?

436
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Speaker 1: It also does waiting till next year open up the

437
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Speaker 1: tiny possibility and I don't even know what you do

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Speaker 1: with this if this happens, that they win the title

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Speaker 1: without which listen, No, I am not speaking for Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 1: I am speaking for human beings. People can want people

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Speaker 1: they love to succeed without them without necessarily wanting them

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Speaker 1: to get the ultimate greatest success imaginable without them, you

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Speaker 1: know what, like the you can if you know, if I,

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Speaker 1: if I left the TV show, I would want Wilds

445
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Speaker 1: and Brew to do really well. If they all of

446
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Speaker 1: a sudden ripped off a couple Emmys in a row

447
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Speaker 1: when we never won one, I would be like, damn right,

448
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Speaker 1: that kind of that's kind of tough and so the

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Speaker 1: and so like, that's just human nature, right. But then

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Speaker 1: there's the element of if he comes back, I think

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Speaker 1: they could win the t with a seventy five percent

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum to that they're that good like this. But

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Speaker 1: if they don't, are people going to be like, oh man,

454
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Speaker 1: did he mess it up? We have a good thing

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Speaker 1: going whatever it is. There's also this he comes back,

456
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Speaker 1: he already has that thing hanging over him that he

457
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Speaker 1: didn't win the finals MVP. The one time he comes back,

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Speaker 1: he's not himself. They make the finals and he has

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Speaker 1: a rough finals, they'll be like, oh three, Like, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I want to make this clear. I

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Speaker 1: am not saying this is fair stuff. Also, close the

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Speaker 1: curtain behind me. Tell me in my ear, guys if

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Speaker 1: I should.

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Speaker 3: It's just the real of sports and the fans.

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Speaker 1: Right and fans in the media. Hold on one second, Monday, Daniel,

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Speaker 1: tell me yes or no. I didn't hear you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thin curtin the hotel thin curtain has been requested. Hold on, guys,

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Speaker 1: let's see if this looks better. Hotel thin curtain activated.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm back.

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Speaker 1: And so I don't know if that helped at all.

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Speaker 1: And so I just I feel Jason Tatum is a

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Speaker 1: very thoughtful and introspective guy. I think we all know

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Speaker 1: that he cares a lot. He also cares a lot

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Speaker 1: about legacy. I think that's fair to say. Yep, and

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Speaker 1: he has. Then, his success in this rehab has put

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Speaker 1: him in an impossible position because if he had rehabbed

477
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Speaker 1: more according to a traditional timeline, everyone would simply be

478
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Speaker 1: targeting the beginning of next season. Because he's so far

479
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Speaker 1: ahead of schedule, he now like, and because the team,

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Speaker 1: it'd be wondering if the team were right now the

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Speaker 1: eight seed, and it's like, but because the team's playing

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Speaker 1: well and he's at a schedule, and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I do not envy the position he's in and uh

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Speaker 1: and it is it is, I don't know, and I

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Speaker 1: do go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I just say play it safe. I mean, you've seen

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Speaker 3: how that can I feel. Klay Thompson, Kyrie Irving, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Krry Irving is a older guy, but I like how

489
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Speaker 3: he's kind of he's he's done. I think that you

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Speaker 3: don't want to sacrifice later for especially if you're already

491
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Speaker 3: doing well right now. But I mean, see how you

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Speaker 3: feel in a couple of months or a month and

493
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Speaker 3: a half, whatever it may be.

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Speaker 1: But buddy, I think it's on the board. He's back

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Speaker 1: in two weeks. Yeah, And I think I I think

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Speaker 1: he either comes back in March or not at all.

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Speaker 2: That's my guess.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's either I'm coming back with some

499
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Speaker 1: ramp up before the.

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Speaker 2: Playoffs, before the playoffs, right.

501
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Speaker 1: If he's not there about playoffs, he's not coming right.

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Speaker 1: And so but here's the other thing. I do think

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Speaker 1: you guys can win the title if he comes back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of and I don't think you need

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Speaker 1: Tatum at peak Tatum, you know what? Like I think

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Speaker 1: that yeah is enough if you just drop him in.

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00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: All right, before we get to spurs, pistons and uh

508
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Speaker 1: some Lebron stuff. We got a lot to do. The

509
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: show is going a longer than I thought today and

510
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Speaker 1: all my poker stuff. I want everyone to listen to this,

511
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Speaker 1: Eileen Goo. Did we keep the question in it? Guys?

512
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: If not? The question is do you think before you speak?

513
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Speaker 1: And then the questioner went on to explain because you

514
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: answer so quickly, but you're so thoughtful. Let's go ahead

515
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Speaker 1: and play this and everybody really listen to what this

516
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Speaker 1: woman is saying.

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Speaker 5: Do you think before you speak? Because you answer questions

518
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Speaker 5: so quickly and so comprehensively, whether it's about geopolitics or

519
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 5: your sport or aerodynamics, like can you take us into

520
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Speaker 5: your brain?

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Charlotte, that's very kind. Oh man, do I

522
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Speaker 4: think I think?

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Speaker 1: Overall?

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Speaker 4: I'm just a pensive person, Like I'm a very introspective

525
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Speaker 4: I'm an introspective young woman. Like I spend a lot

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Speaker 4: of time in my head and it's not a bad

527
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Speaker 4: place to be. I journal a lot, I break down

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Speaker 4: all of my thought processes. I think I apply a

529
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Speaker 4: very analytical lens to my own thinking and I kind

530
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Speaker 4: of modify it because it's so interesting. You can control

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Speaker 4: what you think, like you can control how you think,

532
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Speaker 4: and therefore you can control who you are, and especially

533
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Speaker 4: as a young person like I'm twenty two, so with

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Speaker 4: neuroplasticity on my side, I can literally become exactly who

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Speaker 4: I want to be.

536
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: How cool is that? Like?

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00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: How empowering is that? Right? And so the fact is

538
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 4: I get to become every day the kind of person

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Speaker 4: that me at age eight would revere like I would

540
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Speaker 4: be obsessed with me today, Are you kidding? I would

541
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Speaker 4: love me? And I think that's the biggest flex of

542
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Speaker 4: all time that you can have, Like little younger, you

543
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Speaker 4: be proud of you today. And so I guess for me,

544
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Speaker 4: it's like, yes, I spend a lot of time in

545
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Speaker 4: my own head. Yes, I think a lot, but it's

546
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Speaker 4: not really like in an egotistical kind of way. It's

547
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 4: in like a tinkering, like a scientist kind of way.

548
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Speaker 4: I'm always like trying to modify. I'm trying to think,

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Speaker 4: how can I be better? How can I approach my

550
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Speaker 4: own brain the way that I approach my craft of

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Speaker 4: free skiing so that I can be better tomorrow than

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Speaker 4: I wish.

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Speaker 2: That is so awesome.

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Speaker 1: That is awesome. And I'd never heard the term neuroplasmical,

555
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: but then I looked it up after. And so what

556
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: she's talking about is for young people, and this applies

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Speaker 1: to you, de Monse. It certainly applies even more so

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00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: to your both, Yes, exactly, and it's still forming. And

559
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Speaker 1: so what she's saying is like, if I want to

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Speaker 1: be a certain type of person, I can just make

561
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Speaker 1: myself that type of person. I can just decide I

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Speaker 1: want to be this type of person, make make it

563
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Speaker 1: a self fulfilling prophecy, and rewire my own brain into

564
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Speaker 1: that is just who I am. And I think that

565
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Speaker 1: in some ways is true for everyone at any age.

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Speaker 1: It is definitionally true for young people. And so what

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Speaker 1: she is saying there I thought was meant profound. It's

568
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Speaker 1: a great message. And so and again I know some

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Speaker 1: people really don't like that woman because of the she

570
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Speaker 1: skied for China instead of the US. Again, I this

571
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Speaker 1: is not me trying to like avoid criticism of China.

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Speaker 1: This is purely something where I am simply gonna say

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Speaker 1: I I have done. I have done as much research

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Speaker 1: on that topic as I've done on Hella skiing, and

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Speaker 1: which is to say, none, I know, And so you

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Speaker 1: call me ignorant for it. It's fine. I'm just talking

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Speaker 1: about that message right there. I know. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing she said that I this is

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Speaker 1: where I'll show my ego a bit that I really

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Speaker 1: took to heart. But I think is a really cool

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Speaker 1: idea for people to consider as they make life choices

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Speaker 1: or as they hit a fork in the road. Is

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Speaker 1: am I making the decisions and living the life or

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Speaker 1: on the path to being the type of person that

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Speaker 1: young me would admire? Like, I think that's a really

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Speaker 1: like I when she said young me, eight year old

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Speaker 1: me would be obsessed with me right now, I think

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Speaker 1: it's because eight year old her was a diet wanted

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Speaker 1: to be the greatest skier in the world. She is

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Speaker 1: All right, demonse, let's jump down to the Lebron stuff.

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Speaker 1: Lebron and pat Riley and uh. I also have a

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Speaker 1: question for the producers. Say in my ear, oh yes,

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Speaker 1: hold on, hold on real quick before you do it,

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Speaker 1: because in our rundown and I swear I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to put anyone on blast. I'm trying to see if

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Speaker 1: this was intentional, because I like that. If this was intentional,

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Speaker 1: I'm envious of it, and if it was an accident,

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Speaker 1: I'm stealing it. Because the word written as hypothetricals, which

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Speaker 1: like because I thought, like the they just laughed and

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Speaker 1: said it's a type type. I thought it was like

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Speaker 1: that's what a new segment, hypotheticals, all right, the okay,

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Speaker 1: So again I wasn't trying to be an annoyance there.

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Speaker 1: I just thought we stumbled upon brilliance. All right, go ahead, demontic,

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Speaker 1: now we.

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Speaker 2: Can do it.

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Speaker 3: So pat Riley had a statue unveiled and uh in

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Speaker 3: La this weekend, and him and Lebron had a little

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Speaker 3: convo about what it would have been like if Lebron

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Speaker 3: had stayed in Miami for a few more years. How

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Speaker 3: do you think hypothetically that that would.

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Speaker 1: Will Yeah, I think eventually Lebron would have won at

650
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: least one more championship. But I think Lebron was doubly

651
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: was smart, strategic and lucky in leaving. I think he

652
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: was smart in leaving in this way. He saw more

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00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: than anybody that Dwayne Wade who's one of the thirty

654
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: greatest players in the history of the sport, was done

655
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Speaker 1: as an elite player.

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Speaker 4: That in.

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Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen, in the regular season they load managed d Wade,

658
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: he still only averaged nineteen a game, and then they

659
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 1: did that so in the playoffs he would be peak

660
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: d Wade and in the playoffs he averaged eighteen a game.

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00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: You know, his style of play demons. I don't know

662
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: if you remember, you're so young, but when he first

663
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: came into the league. But yeah, But also there was

664
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Speaker 1: an ad campaign for his shoe company. I think it

665
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: was Adidas, but it was d Wade driving to the

666
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Speaker 1: basket and getting knocked down, driving to the basket, getting

667
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: knocked down, And the ad campaign was not get knocked

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Speaker 1: down seven, get up eight, with the idea being just

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Speaker 1: be relentless. And that was his style and he was

670
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: a brilliant player. But when that's your style, your career

671
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: can get compressed. And that's what happened to him. So

672
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: this is not a criticism of d Wade. It's just

673
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: a reality and Lebron saw, you know, up close and personal,

674
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Speaker 1: and this guy is this guy's time as an elite

675
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: player is not ending. It has ended, and so there

676
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: was that piece of it. The uh good fortune is

677
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: I said, Lebron, good this is not good fortune. So

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00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: I want to retract that comment. Lebron obviously did not

679
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: know Chris Bosh was about to be diagnosed with career

680
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: ending blood clots, So but where I So that's bad

681
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: luck for everyone involved. But I'm saying had he stayed,

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00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: that would It's not like Chris Bosh wouldn't have gotten

683
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: the blood clots, like the Heat still would have had

684
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: to deal with that. So it was strategic in seeing

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00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: what was happening with the Wade, you know, the Chris

686
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: Bosh thing happened, which would have really been probably was

687
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: problematic to the Heat. And then the legacy piece was,

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00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: let's say he would have won two more rings in Miami,

689
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: they would not have weighed nearly as heavily as the

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Speaker 1: one in Cleveland, much less the one in Cleveland, plus

691
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: one more than with the Lakers. So yes, I think

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00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: Lebron you know, still would have You know, he had

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00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: multiple years left he'd after he left Miami, he had

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00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: the next four years. He was by a wide margin,

695
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: the best player in the sports still and you could

696
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: argue up until the year after the bubble, he was

697
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: the best player in the sport. But leaving Miami was smart.

698
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: But I do think he he would have got another one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they like pat Riley's too good and Miami's too

700
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: much of a draw for that they would have, but

701
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: in the short term they were gonna be handcuffed by

702
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: the blood clots from Bosh. They didn't know what was

703
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: coming and by what had happened to d Wade. Let's

704
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: talk about Lebron's current team for a moment here before

705
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: we get to some NFL stuff.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, the Lakers are the five seed and two

707
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: games out of the play in. It's a title over

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00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: there in the West. But you don't seem too confident

709
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: in the Luca Lebron led team. What are the Lakers

710
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: season or what is the Lakers ceiling this season?

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Speaker 1: Absolute everything breaks? Perfect ceiling is the conference finals. Realistic

712
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: ceiling is went around and losing round two.

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00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: I and this is tough.

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Speaker 1: Well, and this is where this is where the Lakers

715
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: should be really concerned. Okay, so they're they're off, you

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Speaker 1: know there, I think seven and eleven I had this.

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Speaker 1: You know what I didn't say. I think I can

718
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: just tell you exactly what they are because Josh, our

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Speaker 1: great stats guy, sent it to me yesterday. Sorry, I

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Speaker 1: have to go through fifty flight emails before I can

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Speaker 1: find here.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 1: So, the Lakers this year against teams one through ten

724
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: in the West, so the other West playoff or playing

725
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: in teams are nine to thirteen, being outscored by seven

726
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: points per game.

727
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: Not good.

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00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: The Lakers against the top four in the East and West,

729
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: so the top eight teams in the league are two

730
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: and eleven, getting outscored by seventeen points per game. So

731
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: when they've played the big boys, they've gotten clocked. Now

732
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: they are the best clutch team in the league. And

733
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: they are twenty five and oh when leading after three quarters,

734
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: which has been a trademark of Lebron's last year in Cleveland.

735
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: That Cavs team, I believe was the playoffs and regular season.

736
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: I believe fifty four and oh when leading after three quarters.

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00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: Lebron had a Lakers team that was like four I

738
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: think with and they won the championship. They were like

739
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: forty four and one when leading after three quarters. They're like,

740
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: that's if the game is going according to the Lakers script,

741
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: and Lebron can control the chessboard at the end, they're

742
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: in great shape. But otherwise they're in bad shape. And

743
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: here is where And I know, I know folks are like, well,

744
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: this albatross of a Lebron contract. Guys, I'm not gonna

745
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: revisit this too much. If Lebron had opted out this

746
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: offseason and walked away and taken his fifty four million

747
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: dollar salary off the books, the Lakers would have opened

748
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: up zero dollars of cap space. Okay, So, like I've

749
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: explained that multiple times, it is just the facts. People

750
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 1: don't want to accept it. That's fine, And you also

751
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: have to contend with the fact that Lebron is not

752
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: the problem with the Lakers. He's the second or third

753
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: best player on the team. And if you were the

754
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: Lakers demons and Lebron leaves, here's my question. Because the

755
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Lakers pending free agents, uh, because it's not just Bron,

756
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: it's also arguably their fourth best player, Ruie. They obviously

757
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 1: have to re sign Austin Reeves, and their other free

758
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: agents are Kliba who cares, uh, Luke Kennard and Jackson Hayes,

759
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 1: with player options for Marcus Smart, DeAndre Ayton, and Austin

760
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: reeves who they're going to resign. Okay, if Lebron walks

761
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: away to Monse, how many championship level starters do the

762
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: Lakers have.

763
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: On the roster? Well, I mean, Luke hasn't been no,

764
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: but not not.

765
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: No no no no.

766
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Speaker 1: But like, guys, you could be like this, a starter

767
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: on a champion.

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00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: And Austin ar two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fair two to three guys.

770
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: That's it.

771
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 1: You gotta find three starters. You gotta you gotta build

773
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: a whole roster. And you have now. You had Luca

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00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: before last year's trade deadline. You stood pat this off season,

775
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: you punted this trade deadline. You punted. And I look

776
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: at the West Demanse and I'm like, so, how are

777
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: the Lakers forget this year? Next year going to be

778
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: better than Oklahoma City? How are the Lakers next year

779
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: going to be better than San Antonio? How are the

780
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: Lakers going to be better than Denver? How?

781
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 4: Like?

782
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: What is the process for this to happen? And if

783
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: the answer is get Yannis, fine, But if you'd first

784
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: of all, I don't know if that fixes everything, but

785
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: getting young, you have Luca and Giannis, You're gonna win

786
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: the title obviously, but if it's not get you, honest,

787
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: then the hell are you gonna do? And so I

788
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: just think they are. I think there is no player

789
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: in the league more stylistically similar to late stage Lebron

790
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 1: than Luca. They did such a terrible job at Bill

791
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: putting the right pieces around late stage Lebron that they

792
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: don't have the right pieces in place for Luca. Like,

793
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: had they built a roster that was perfect for Bron

794
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: defensive guys and shooters, then guess what when you trade

795
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: for Luca, it's like ready to go. You modeled your

796
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: game after Bron, just without the athleticism they did.

797
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: Do you think so, do you think it was an

798
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 3: actual path to them getting honestly, what would that?

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Speaker 2: What would that be?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there definitely is a path, be honest, telling the

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Speaker 1: Bucks you I will only go to the Lakers that

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00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: and by the way, that's the only path. Anything else

803
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: is not a path. They can't make the best offer,

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00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: they can't create the best package. It would have to

805
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: be Yannas forcing Milwaukee's hand and Milwaukee being okay with it.

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00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: All right, let me before we get to our poker stuff,

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Speaker 1: we much well, let me just say this on the

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Speaker 1: front end. I still think the tush push is getting

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Speaker 1: banned next year to Momsey, I know right now the

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Speaker 1: reporting is it won't be.

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Speaker 2: I still rough officiated and stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's it's ugly.

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Speaker 1: Nobody can officiate it. The Eagles don't even like doing

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Speaker 1: it anymore. I don't, and so I just don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think, sorry, your mom, just walk back in.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that, uh, it's going to I know

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Speaker 1: right now the reporting is.

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Speaker 2: Nobody change so far. It's only been two years, right, No.

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Speaker 1: That they've done it for three four. It's been a

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Speaker 3: Uh So, last week you were playing and poker goes

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Speaker 1: Before I even get to the game, I want to

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Speaker 1: but they let me sit there briefly shout out to them.

862
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:42,959
Speaker 1: The next day, I stumbled over to Bellagio to play

863
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: a different eighty one sixty mixed game. My pal Peter

864
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: runs that. I don't know if he runs the game,

865
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: but it feels like it's his game. The table was full.

866
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 1: He allowed me to sit in for maybe he thought

867
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a bit. I played for nine

868
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: hours with my buddy Ellie Elzra, who's just a legend

869
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: of the game. Won a little bit in that game,

870
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: and then into the night. Going back to the my

871
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: room at Aria, I'm like, well, I gotta go stop

872
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: by the poker room at one in the morning, six

873
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: am flight and I see my buddy MJ running his

874
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: twenty five point fifty no limit game. I'm like, ah,

875
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: I'll sit in that game for a bit play and

876
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: played there until about three thirty in the morning before

877
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: I had to get on my flight. So shout out

878
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: to all those folks, uh, and shout out to their games.

879
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: I appreciated the different properties where we played. But I

880
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: went to Vegas four the no Gamble, No Future cash

881
00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: game streamed cash game, and this was initially going to

882
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: be a twenty five point fifty game where people bought

883
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: in for round ten grand. Then my pal Antonio s

884
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: Fondiari got his hands on it. He ended up setting

885
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: the lineup. He ended up setting the game they played

886
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: the day before as well. Somehow it turned into a

887
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: one hundred two hundred game, and somehow Antonio in the

888
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: first night of it lost. I mean, it's documented. He

889
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: won't mind me saying three hundred and eighty thousand dollars,

890
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: and so night two it's certainly not gonna He's not

891
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: gonna play smaller. And now it's a one hundred two

892
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: hundred game with like a four hundred dollars straddle, sometimes

893
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: an eight hundred dollars restraddle and when Antonio had something

894
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: to say about it, a sixteen hundred dollars re restraddle.

895
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, every two hours they wanted to

896
00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: do ten k plo flips, which means everybody puts ten

897
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: thousand in the middle, we all get four cards. The

898
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: dealer then runs out of five cardboard. You do nothing,

899
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: You turn your cards over, and whoever has the best

900
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: hand gets the seventy.

901
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: Fet the table.

902
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: Right. And so to say this game played bigger than

903
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: I expected it to would be an understatement. However, I

904
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: love the Poker Go crew. I work with the Poker

905
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: Go crew. More on that in a moment. I love Antonio.

906
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: And there was a guy in the game that they

907
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: call Senior Tilt or they call him Kiki, who.

908
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: Your tilt is tough. That's a nice nickname right there.

909
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: Well, yep, that's nice who I find wildly irritated. And

910
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: I told my buddy's for it, and I was like, listen,

911
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: i'mna send the table with this guy for seven hours.

912
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: At some point it's gonna come out that I find

913
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: him irritating. An added bonus, Demanse was he no fault

914
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: of his own on this, but had no clue who

915
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: I am. None, Like I think he thought I was

916
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: like a mid stakes aspiring professional poker player. Correct. Like

917
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: at one point he's said, like the only like one

918
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: on one interaction we had at the table early in

919
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: the night. He was like, He's like, so somebody told me,

920
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: like you have you do a podcast or something like

921
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: that's cool. I'm like, yeah, uh, that's right and uh.

922
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: And he kept throughout the whole night. So the night

923
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: before Demonse, when Antonio lost all that money, yeah, he

924
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: was the big winner, okay, and he left the game early.

925
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: There was a dinner break, everyone went to dinner, everyone

926
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 1: came back to keep playing, and he never came back.

927
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: That is can you do that?

928
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: You can do it, but it is frowned upon. The

929
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: general kind of rule is, if there's a game that's

930
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: supposed to run for a set amount of time, if

931
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: you're losing, you can leave whenever you want. Nobody's gonna

932
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: make you if you're lose, But if you're winning, you

933
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: tip the etiquette, don't go a big and then just

934
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: did exactly so Monday, but Monday he did or not

935
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: Monday the first day of the game, so day two.

936
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: The whole time we're playing. He keeps referencing how he

937
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: has to leave early again, and he's saying, because my

938
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: plane leaves at seven, my plane, this my plane that

939
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: he keeps saying my plane, keeps saying my plane. And

940
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: he also he also travels. He travels everywhere with two

941
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: security guards and a camera crew. I'm like, okay, man,

942
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: like there were there were there in these in these games,

943
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: they're legitimate, Like billionaires that play, they don't they don't

944
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: have they don't have multiple security guards. The only person

945
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: I've ever seen at one of these games brings like

946
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: the level of security this guy brings is Kevin Hart,

947
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: who's one of the thirty most famous people in the world.

948
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: And so I so, and but he keeps saying my plane.

949
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: And in my head, I'm like, well, if it's your

950
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: fucking plane, you can stay as.

951
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 2: Long as you want whatever you want, right.

952
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: So I finally I was like, hey, I have a question,

953
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: is it you're playing or not? And he immediately immediately

954
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: got defensive and let me add one other thing. This

955
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: guy is an ultimate needler. He's a little bit of

956
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: an he's a little bit of an angler. If you

957
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: ask me. I watched a game where he cut out

958
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars bet put it over

959
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: the line to bet it. It was a bluff saw

960
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: the other guy was about to call and then pulled

961
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: it back, which is stoney.

962
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: That's yeah, no, no, no no.

963
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: So that that if in a real in a regular casino,

964
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: the other guy could call the floor and be like

965
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: at bet stands, but in these games, it's kind of

966
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: a gentleman's game. But that was not a gentlemanly thing.

967
01:03:54,920 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: And he also like is big on needling guy for

968
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: not playing enough hands, even if he is playing the

969
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: same amount of hands as them. There's a lot of

970
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: stuff that I just don't like. And so finally we

971
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: were about forty five minutes from his supposed departure, and

972
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want him to leave because he was once

973
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: again one of the big weeks I was. I was

974
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: up like five six grand or whatever. He was up

975
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: like one ten and I and I was just like, hey, buddy,

976
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: is it your plane? And he's like, what do you mean, No,

977
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't have a plane. I have a chartered He's like,

978
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: I have a chartered jet. And I'm like okay, but

979
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: it's okay fine, But you're the only person on it.

980
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, you and your security and camera crew,

981
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: it's your your people. He's like yeah, I'm like, well,

982
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: then can't you leave whenever you want, like the if

983
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: it your whether You're like, it's not gonna leave without

984
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: keep saying your plane, and he's like, no, well then

985
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: I need a new departure slot and a new landing slot.

986
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: And then he he's like, oh, sounds like sounds like right,

987
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: is in the market for a plane, boys, let's tell

988
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: him how it works. And I'm like, no, I'm not

989
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: saying that. I was like, what I am saying is, dude,

990
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: I'll send you this. I'll send you a video and

991
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: people can watch it on our YouTube page. I mean,

992
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: I did instigate it. I was like, no, I'm I'm

993
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: not in the market for a plane. I however, am

994
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: someone who speaks for a living, and I would just

995
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: give you the advice in the future, say my flight

996
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: unless it is in fact your plane, because when it's

997
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: not your plane and you have to leave it a

998
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: certain time and you keep saying my plane and my flight,

999
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: it almost gives the impression you're trying to sound like

1000
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: a big shot who has a plane when you don't

1001
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: have a fucking plane, and and so he was and

1002
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: so and then he was like, you know what, I'm

1003
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: grounding my plane tonight. I'm gonna stay And I just

1004
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: and I said, mission accomplished. That's all I want. But nobody,

1005
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: everybody kind of always lets him get away with this shit.

1006
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: And I just wasn't into it, and so that a

1007
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: few minutes later he couldn't deal with the fact that

1008
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: the table laughed at him. And yeah, he was like,

1009
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, I think I should

1010
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: buy a plane, And without missing a beat, I was like, bro,

1011
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. That way you have something to

1012
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: sell when the money runs out, well, you have an asset.

1013
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: And I referenced a different guy who's similarly to him

1014
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: about a couple of years ago, burst onto the poker

1015
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: scene was kind of mister big shot everywhere, and it's

1016
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,959
Speaker 1: nowhere to be seen these days. Is because the money

1017
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: ran out. And now, listen, maybe this guy's got infinite

1018
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: money a lot, who knows, I don't know. But then

1019
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: right after that, Demanse, he packed up his chips and

1020
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: left and left once again, to his credit, left winner

1021
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: in the game. But here's the other here's the addendum

1022
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: to the story. So oh, he also did a hold.

1023
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: He did the whole thing to me about you know,

1024
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 1: how many hands are you playing? You're only playing aces whatever,

1025
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: and I knew he was wrong. I was like, it

1026
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: was like, I guarantee you and I have played about

1027
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: the same amount of hands. We can bet anything you want.

1028
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: And he of course didn't bet it. But I also

1029
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: knew what the stats were. But then yesterday, so then

1030
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: he then he's like tweeting through it. He's all mad,

1031
01:07:54,520 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: he's the but doesn't matter. Fine, it's no problem. But

1032
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: then yesterday he posted the stats from the two nights,

1033
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: the two games, and how he's the big winner and

1034
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: what everyone else wanted. And I saw my name on there,

1035
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's not none of this is. It's

1036
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: not even close to accurate. And so I did a

1037
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: little research. This guy posted the final stats for the

1038
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: game for as if the game ended when he left, Yeah,

1039
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: when he left, because and here is the you know,

1040
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: the end of the story. This game that was too

1041
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: big for me, that I shouldn't have been playing in,

1042
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: that I brought backup money to but I ended up

1043
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 1: buying in for twenty five thousand dollars. Antonio bought in

1044
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: for a quarter of a million. I bought in for

1045
01:08:53,400 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: twenty five I cashed out for one sixty two, which

1046
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: made it the biggest win of my life by a

1047
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: decent margin. Me your guy Nick Wright the biggest winner

1048
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,440
Speaker 1: of the night on day two, And it was announced

1049
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the broadcast that for future no Gamble,

1050
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: no future episodes that I'm not playing in, I'll be broadcasting.

1051
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it with my guy Brent Hanks,

1052
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:27,879
Speaker 1: which is so exciting.

1053
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1054
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: So all of that is really great, and I have

1055
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: a nice little poker rivalry. And if somebody sends this

1056
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: to Kiki a word, just a friendly piece of advice, man,

1057
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: you would be stunned. Man, how much of the poker

1058
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: world must be sick of your shit? Because folks who

1059
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 1: I've never heard from my number sent me the clips

1060
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: and thanked me for it. So maybe maybe toned down

1061
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: the look at me Louis stuff. Maybe, I don't know,

1062
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: to each their own, but wildly successful weekend. And as

1063
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: the producers put it, because I was I was funny

1064
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 1: and I was targeted, but I was kind of a jerk,

1065
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: and you know what, That entire plane bit culminated in

1066
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: me being stranded on the West Coast doing the podcast

1067
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,560
Speaker 1: from a hotel room because I, in fact do not

1068
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: have a plane. Talk to you guys, L that's right,