1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Of sofas recording, Anguilla gets all the listeners about the ring. 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: It you just women because it just entertained me so much. Well, 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm hoping everyone can visualize it because give us the description. 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: So you know, we've all done a million zooms at 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: this point. Well, Kelly will text me a zoom link 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: when we're not together and be like here, dialand to 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: this one and like it kills me. It's got like 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: seventeen phone numbers that you can call in from, but 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: we're doing a video meeting and it's like from New York, 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: I call your local number in Washington, d C. To 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: come Washington. It's also so random that they're like these 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: are the cities that they choose for you, New York, Chicago, Tacoma, Houston, 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: and Denver. I wonder, like Tacoma has a lot of 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: like startup people. But why wouldn't San Fran be on here. 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a great question for Zoom. I'm 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: sure there's some reason behind us that we don't know. 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: And I actually just said to you too, I know 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: I don't need to be sending that whole thing, but 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what part I do need to send, 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: So I just send it all, but I figure it out. 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: I figure it out, and the best part is at 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: the bottom. It's got um. You know, you call from 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: anywhere you can call it like Argentina, Australia. You can't 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: call from the Bahamas or Bahrain though, so sorry. You 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: do know. I've done podcasts with people from Australia in 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: places like that, so it's not unheard of. Yeah that's true, 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: but nobody's calling me. We're just doing internet. Yeah, we're 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: doing internet. I know it is twenty twenty three. But 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Chip and I are both under the weathers. That's why 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: we're not together. We are Oh my god, did my 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: power just go out? I don't know what just happened 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: for the listeners, but what just happened here is that 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: my WiFi went out. I actually thought my whole power 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: went out, but it just was a breaker. I thought 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: Zoom was fucking with me because I was making fun 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: of Zoom. Literally, it was like the weirdest moment. I'm 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: sitting here and I'm like Chip and I are both sick. 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a shit show. And then my 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: power goes out. It's like, well, yeah, we're gonna wake 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: up in the moment, I guess at this point, you know, 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: like I don't even really know anyone, it really is. 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: I was talking to Marv um, my astrologer. We actually 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: have a podcast that'll come out next week, and he's 44 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: just talking a lot about like the energy that's coming 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: in March, and like there's some things. Oh yeah, so 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: he's saying some big changes are coming our way, and 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm like really like, um, well, you'll just have to 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: listen and see chip. But um, I mean, like, you know, 49 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: nothing bad that happens, even the pandemic or anything like 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: the way Marv always explains it to me, it's like 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: it felt really bad and there were a lot of 52 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: hard circumstances and the deaths and you know, painful situations, 53 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: but ultimately, for the universe and for our world, not 54 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: the universe, for our world, there's been a there's probably 55 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: a lot that came from it that maybe as humans 56 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: we need to evolve into. Right. So kind of like 57 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: in your own personal life, when you go through something hard, 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: you have the choice to learn from it and grow 59 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: or just like keep going and burying it and all 60 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: the things. And so that's kind of how Marv explains 61 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: all that to me, and so anyway, maybe you know 62 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: what it's like literally the last week of February, so 63 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: maybe we're just doo doo doo doo doo doo. Yeah, 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: what's right now? Nothing, that's the weird part. Nothing is 65 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: in retrograde. We're supposed to be moving forward at rapid 66 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: speed right now. Oh, I know. Interesting. Anyway, So Chip 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: was talking about the interesting things about the Zoom send 68 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: off the Zoom. If you are listening, if that was 69 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: like a punishment, tell us how to do that, because 70 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: we clearly don't know. This month was all about expansion 71 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: here on the Velvet Edge podcast. I say this every month, 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: I feel, but I really really really loved the podcast 73 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: this month in the topic and it might have been 74 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: a little scary for some people. That was sort of 75 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: the feedback that I got was kind of like woe. 76 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: But to me, that's like what life is about. And 77 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: so I get really personally excited because I'm just like, 78 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: oh my god, there's all these interesting things to learn, 79 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: and I'm a learner and I'm a thinker, and I 80 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: love to just meet new people who can offer new 81 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: insights into this world or just new perspectives. I don't 82 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: even have to agree with them, But there's something about 83 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: hearing something completely different from what you thought or what 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: maybe you've lived your life believing and going, huh, what 85 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: do I believe? Like just that moment where it takes 86 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: you into a place of analyzing your thoughts and actually 87 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: making sure that something is truly in line with you. 88 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: Did you feel that at all this month? Chip? Yeah? 89 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean I also I recognize this month too that 90 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the people who I love, 91 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: particularly on like family side, sometimes you have to, like 92 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: I have to figure out a way to love them 93 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: through disagreement, you know, like understanding that, like you just 94 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: are never going to be aligned on certain things and 95 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: that can be okay because their their experience is going 96 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: to be different from yours. Yeah, and you know the 97 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, I like to think that I'm on the 98 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: right side of history for everything, but I know that 99 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: that's not possible. So I you know, it's like sometimes 100 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: it is just like that expansion is like giving it 101 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: the people around you some grace to understand that their 102 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: experience is different than yours. Yeah. So the podcast that 103 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: went up this week actually was on Wednesday for the 104 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: Velvet Side of Things was with a past life psychic 105 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: Amsley McLeod. He was on Oprah and Ellen, and can 106 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: I tell you, I was literally fan girling, like it 107 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: was like most people would get really excited about the musicians, 108 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, oh my god, 109 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: oh my god. When I saw his face, I was 110 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: just like such a nerd and so geeking out because 111 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: I mean, Oprah and Ellen, like those are big platforms, 112 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: and so I was like, oh my god, welcome to 113 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: the Velvet Edge podcast guy. It was crazy, but I've 114 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: read his books, I personally did a session with him, 115 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: and I really believe in the work he's doing. And 116 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: I know for some people it probably sounds really intense 117 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: and crazy, but slowly dip your toe in and see 118 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: if any of it resonates. But it's all about soul 119 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: levels and not soul levels in like a rating like 120 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: one through ten one is good and one is bad, 121 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: but basically how long our souls have lived here. And 122 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: I believe in this because of some of the experiences 123 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: I've had in this life and just sort of how 124 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: I feel on a day to day basis. But in 125 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: line with what you're saying, like, I do think that personally, 126 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: I believe that like some people have been here longer, 127 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: if some people are younger souls, and we've all been 128 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: younger souls. But the way he describes it is that 129 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: young souls are a little fearful of people that are 130 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: different from them or things that are different, whereas old 131 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: souls have probably lived a life as one of those 132 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: kinds of people, and so we have we tend to 133 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: have a little more empathy. And um, I thought that 134 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: was such an interesting way to look at a lot 135 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: of the things happening in our culture right now. And 136 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: like for me personally sitting there thinking, oh, well, this 137 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: is why arguing with that person is probably pointless. Like 138 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: if I can have a decent conversation or I can 139 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: say my piece about certain things and we can both 140 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: be respectful, great, But I'm not sure that we're always 141 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: going to fully align because some people's experience in these 142 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: situations is just led by a lot more fear. Yeah, 143 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: and little it's you can also always find something that 144 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: you can agree on to talk about when there are 145 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: things that I would say from most people like yeah, 146 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: if if it's politics that you don't agree on, or 147 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: if it's something political or a hot button issue, that 148 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: you don't agree on then talk about something that has 149 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: nothing to do with that, Because I do believe that 150 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: most people come from a pure place. But again, everyone's 151 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: journey is different, the life of their soul is different. 152 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: I believe that too. I have a question. Is he 153 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: the guy that, like, I forget what the book was, 154 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: but I remember what Oprah is saying, like her soul 155 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: like her souls on its last Like the reason why 156 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: she's so operating at a different level is her soul 157 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: is like on its last cycle. I don't know the verbiage, 158 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: but I remember hearing about this and it was like 159 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: so in line with not anything that I've ever read, 160 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: just kind of what I've always thought, like, there has 161 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: to be new souls and has to be old souls, 162 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: and it's the only thing that makes anything makes sense 163 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: in terms of how different we all are. So is 164 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: he the guy that wrote that book? It is the guy. 165 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: The book that she did her podcast on with him 166 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: was called Instruction, and he has since written another one. 167 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: He has two other ones. One it's called The Transformation, 168 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: but then the one that I just read that I 169 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: would highly recommend to people to start with is called 170 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: The Old Soul's guide Book one word, sorry, not too 171 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: and anyway, it kind of it really breaks down kind 172 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: of similar things as the instruction, but in a much 173 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: more simple way. So it was easier for me to 174 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: understand to begin with. And it's not hard to understand, 175 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: like it's very easy. Yeah, Oprah's on her ninth level, 176 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: which actually there's a tenth level, but I'm also on 177 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: my ninth. I'm fucking old, man, It's why I'm so tired. 178 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: That's what I kept saying. I'm curious and maybe I 179 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: should just go listen to the podcast. But where does 180 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: a new soul come from? And where does an old 181 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: soul good? After level ten? So there's all these different 182 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: planes that he describes. One is here planet Earth. I 183 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: can't remember what he calls that, but you're on this planet. 184 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: Then there's the astral plane, which is where we go 185 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: between lifetimes to really kind of like rest and recover 186 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: and then decide what we want for our next lifetime, 187 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: like what kind of parents do we want to be 188 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: born into, what place we want to live, what time 189 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: of the year, what time of life like I was 190 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: born in nineteen eighty two, and I picked that, you know, 191 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: for this lifetime. I picked my parents, I picked the 192 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: exact relationships I picked at all, Like, you make these 193 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: soul contracts with other people in your soul family to 194 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: come down to this earth, and the whole purpose is 195 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: to learn the lessons that you need to to keep evolving, 196 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: Like he says, the whole purpose of our soul is 197 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: to learn to love and to learn empathy. And so 198 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: we'll keep creating these scenarios until we get to places 199 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, I got that one, and I can 200 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: kind of like love in a different capacity. I can 201 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: have empathy in a different place. It doesn't mean you're 202 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: ever perfect, because not this ever are, especially in this world. 203 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: But then you'll go back to the astal plane. And 204 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: then once you finish, like you go through your tenth 205 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: level and you are like, okay, that was it. You 206 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: go to the causal plane and your soul just there, 207 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: just is. I'm like, I can't wait, let's go right. 208 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: But I think like one through five is our young soul, 209 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 1: and it's I mean, I'm sure if anyone's listening and 210 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: they're like, this is fucking crazy. This bitch has completely 211 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: lost it, I understand. It's a lot and it sounds weird, 212 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: but it was like what you said and about the 213 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: Oprah podcast is exactly how I felt. It just hit 214 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is it. I actually know 215 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: this is like true, you know for me it is 216 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: at least so I get it if you don't believe it, 217 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: but that is what resonates for me, and it makes 218 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: everything in my life makes sense. He also talked about 219 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: your soul's personality, which you pick before you come, and 220 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: it is so spot on and so interesting when you 221 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: look at like why you're drawn to certain things will 222 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: click if you know your person your soul's personality, or 223 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: like why certain things really don't click, and just different 224 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: things like that. So I don't know, he was fascinating. 225 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: And even if you're like this is a bunch of bullshit, 226 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: maybe just go listen and see if there's like anything 227 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: you can pull because at the end of the day, 228 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: the main topic of like love and growth and evolution 229 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: and empathy are like the important pieces of this life 230 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: to me anyway, So maybe you could even take that, 231 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: take what you like, leave the rest to that kind 232 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: of thing, right right. We also talked to a porn 233 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: star this month. What do you think about that? I'm mean, 234 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: I was fascinated by her, Like, yeah, I did love her. 235 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: And it was funny because afterwards, like you and I 236 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: had a conversation where it was like you were a 237 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: little worried that even saying like, oh my god, you 238 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: like breaking down what I was expected, Like you're so 239 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: much smarter than I expected, whether or not she would 240 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: take that in the wrong way. And I think, like 241 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: she must get that all the time, you know, because 242 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: I do think that, like we you know, it's I 243 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: don't think that as a society, we're taught to respect 244 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: people who do poor, so our expectations of them are low. 245 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: And you know, look, I it's not even about respect, 246 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: because it's like to each his own, like you do, 247 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: you boo. But I you know, it's it's not what 248 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: you expect someone to be that well spoken, And I mean, 249 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: I guess you have to kind of be street smart too. 250 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: But she was like educated, you know, and like her 251 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: choices were, she was well spoken, her choices were really interesting. 252 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: Like her perspective on it all was really interesting. And honestly, 253 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: I think the world just needs more people like her, 254 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: you know, whether or not they're doing porn or not. 255 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: Like I just think the way that she like sort 256 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: of looked at her her opportunity of this life and 257 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: what she was going to take from it is what's 258 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: just really interesting. Yeah, I thought her name was Candice 259 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: Horrback and her porn name is Eva Lovea or LoVa. 260 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: I think, what's how you say it? When she was 261 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: a huge porn star. She doesn't do porn anymore, but 262 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: she was huge, and I think what she said is right. 263 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: That excuse me our society. I think, you know, as 264 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: porn is scary. I've spent many years being really scared 265 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: of porn personally, and I've come out of that, but 266 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: I think we don't really know where to file sexual stuff. 267 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:49,359 Speaker 1: Like America specifically seems very new at navigating those conversations. 268 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: And I do feel like we're having some growth there, 269 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: but it's scary, and then we're fed things like you know, 270 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: porn is bad, this is what porned us to your brain, 271 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: or porn is great and something's wrong with you if 272 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: you're scared of it. It's like this constant like what 273 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: is accurate and what is right? And I actually don't 274 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: know the answer to those questions, like I don't know 275 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: if it's good for relationships or hard for relationships. I 276 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's probably you know, relationship base 277 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: like relationship to relationship or person to person, which we 278 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: talk about a lot in the podcast. But I think 279 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: you've touched on what the most important piece of that 280 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: whole conversation was, and it was just finding like that 281 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: as humans, we are genuinely all connected and we're really 282 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: not all that different. Like, I think there was so 283 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: much humanity that we got out of that conversation and 284 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: just realizing like, she's on a journey just like we are, 285 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: and she has so much thoughtfulness, and I think she's 286 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: a seeker and you know, she has a podcast now 287 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: where she's really diving deep into some of these same 288 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: topics that we do and just look for growth and evolution. 289 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: And so when you meet someone whore, you would have 290 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: made up who they were if you didn't know them. 291 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: It was just a really interesting experience to be like, oh, 292 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: you're actually just like me. Your story has just involved 293 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: a journey in porn and mine hasn't, but that doesn't 294 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: make mine any better. There's things that yeah, like we've 295 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: all done, but we just had some idea of what 296 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: a person who does porn should look like or be like, 297 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: and she was not anything like what I would have 298 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: expected either, So it was awesome. I really enjoyed that conversation. Yeah. Yeah, 299 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: we also talked a lot about We talked about music 300 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: in Madonna, and we had a great random conversation. But 301 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: the ages and piece, that was a big thing to 302 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: really look at. And I think as people who, well 303 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: everyone's aging, but like we're hitting like our midlife hopefully, 304 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, and so I think these conversations really really 305 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: hit ahead in some new ways. Have you had any 306 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: afterthoughts about the Madonna situation that's going on. I mean, 307 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a whole lot more, but like, what 308 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: keeps ringing in my mind is that, like I just 309 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: hate the Madonna feels like she needs to stay young forever. Yeah, 310 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: I get it. It's you know, it's not unique to her. 311 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's a product of the entertainment business. But 312 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: you know, I guess I have put Madonna in this 313 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: like superhuman category where those kinds of things wouldn't affect her, 314 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: and it, I mean, in a way, it just shows 315 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: that she's human and she has these feelings and the 316 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: same desires that like, you know, most people have, and 317 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: but you know it's what should like physical appearance and 318 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: agism and all that stuff aside. It's just to me, 319 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: like I thought Madonna was stronger than that, you know, 320 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: like or tougher than that. Like. And I don't even 321 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: mean that to be insulting, Like I just thought she 322 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: would be like, fuck you, you don't. Yeah, I'm gonna 323 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: do what I want. And maybe that's exactly what she's doing. 324 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe all of our ideas of what 325 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: is beautiful differs, you know, like maybe this she thinks 326 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: she looks better than she's ever looked. Who knows. I mean, 327 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: it's her choice. Yeah, she posted something. I guess this 328 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: is like two days ago now, but it was a 329 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: new picture of her and she said, look how cute 330 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: I am now that the swelling for my surgery has 331 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: gone down. Lol, And it's a picture of her. I mean, 332 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: she actually looks great in this picture. She looks different 333 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: than Madonna ever, did you know, the old Madonna? We know, 334 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: but as you would as you get older. So I 335 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's tough, It's yeah, I don't really 336 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: know what to think about all of that. But again, 337 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: I think it's like what we touched on in the podcast. 338 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: It just like embracing yourself. And I hope that she 339 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: feels like she's in a good place. And I hate 340 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: that people are so mean on the internet. Yeah, that 341 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: is the main thing. And I think it's like what 342 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: you just said too about someone you thought she was stronger, 343 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: and it's like back to that humanity piece. I just 344 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: think we're seeing like the veil is being lifted. There 345 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: is no like, there is no person out there that 346 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have feelings, that doesn't get hurt, that doesn't struggle 347 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: with the same shit. Doesn't matter how rich you are 348 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: or how famous, like it's all the same and it's 349 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: all relative. Like I just don't think we can say 350 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: that anymore, Like we're reaching this different place in our 351 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: culture and so and that's good. I think that's really good. 352 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: And of course it's nice to have money, and of 353 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: course it's nice to have success, but like that doesn't 354 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: fix your human problems. It just does and this always 355 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: makes them worse, depends d I mean, right, there's some 356 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: things that are easier because you have money, and then 357 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: there's some things that are harder, right like having you know, 358 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: being able to trust that people just want to be 359 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: your friend for being your friend, Like that's hard, you know, 360 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: Like I mean, I feel like I remember when I 361 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: was on the show and I would meet new people, 362 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: there was a weird feeling of like do you like me? 363 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: Or is this like you're interested in that? And that 364 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: was the first time in my life I feel like 365 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: I felt that and I did not like it, Like 366 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: I much preferred this place of just knowing who my 367 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: genuine friends are, Like it's so much more peaceful. But 368 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: you don't think about that until you're in the situation. 369 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: Then you're like, oh, this feels like shit. Actually. The 370 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: other big one to me was psychedelics. Would you ever 371 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: do a psychedelic trip? Absolutely? And it's so funny because 372 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: I was listening to me daily the podcast in the 373 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: New York Times the Daily, and I don't know if 374 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: it was the one from today or not, but I 375 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: was listen into it this morning because I've had some 376 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: catching up to do. And it was about the journey 377 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: of like psychedelics becoming legalized from medicinal purposes and the 378 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: effect that it coming from being pushed by the veteran 379 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: perspective like PTSD. Yeah, it was actually today's episode, it's 380 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: called the Veterans Fighting to Legalize Psychedelics. And I forget 381 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: the name of the woman that they had interviewed, but 382 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: she had enlisted and right before nine eleven, and then 383 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: she worked in a lot of hospitals and then she 384 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: got shipped off to Afghanistan like years later and suffered 385 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: from a lot of PTSD and she took a hero's 386 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: dos like the same exact thing, like the way she 387 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: described it, like this is what Kelly did. And um 388 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: she's like basically like I was able to grieve all 389 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: of that pain and cry it all out and it 390 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: had been blocked like I was like not allowing myself 391 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: to like grieve any of it, and um, she's like 392 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: it saved my life, and um, so it was. It's 393 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: a really interesting episode. You should go listen to it 394 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: because it is about you know, obviously in America, we 395 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: like regard our military, and when our military is saying 396 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: something is helping them, there is no reason why our 397 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: Congress should not be listening to them. Um. You know, 398 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: it's it's funny because you know the stuff psychedelics came about, 399 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: and like the sixties, I think fifties or sixties and 400 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: it was I mean, look, obviously the mushrooms have always 401 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: been there, but LSD became very popular then and U 402 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: and it was I believe it was Nixon that had them. 403 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: M I think it was Nixon that had had been 404 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: classified as a drug and when that happened, and when 405 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: that happened, there was nothing written to the law that 406 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: like left it open for medicinal research, so it all stopped. Well, 407 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: the funny thing we talked about this in the podcast 408 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: and all the research that I've done about this, and like, 409 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: there's a really great show, How to Change Your Mind. 410 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: It's on Netflix. It's a series and it's about all 411 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: the different psychedelics and it talks about this a lot 412 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: because it's like, why did this become so government governmentally regulated? 413 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: Is that the way to say that regulated whatever? You 414 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: guys know what I mean, regulated by the government. Let's 415 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: just go back. Why did it become so regulated? And 416 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: there's no reason other than they can't make money. And 417 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: that is so fucking disturbing to me. It makes me 418 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: so upset because when they put you on antidepressants, that's 419 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: like forever probably or all of these things, and so 420 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: there's this consistent income stream or or even therapy, and 421 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: this is coming in saying like, no, this is actually 422 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: a solution that you do once twice, maybe three times, 423 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: and it actually cures a lot of the things. It 424 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: helps you get the grief out, it helps you heal 425 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: the anxiety and the PTSD, and they don't actually want 426 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: anything that's going to actually heal, so it's not for 427 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: our benefit. And it's just really frustrating because the other 428 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: big thing I'm having an issue with is like that 429 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: stuff being illegal but alcohol is not. And it's just 430 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: like so wild to me that how are we picking 431 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: these drugs other than for financial gain because alcohol is 432 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: like a drug and it is literal poison. And I 433 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: still drink sometimes, but like that time off really gave 434 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: me a lot of insight into holy shit, what are 435 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: we doing? Like it was just like this eye opening experience, 436 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: and I don't know, I'm just getting really upset, Like 437 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: for me, this is the first time I think I've 438 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: come to terms. I've felt this way with food about 439 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: food for a long time because it's just like they're 440 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: pumping so much shit into our food for mass production 441 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: and it's so bad for us and making us sick. 442 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: But I'm just realizing it's on such a bigger scale 443 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: and I was so ignorant to it before and when 444 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: I saw that, like how much it helped me after 445 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: one time, and like I don't feel this need to 446 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: ever do it again. I may, but like it helped 447 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: me see the world in a whole different way and 448 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: see myself and have like a different relationship with myself. 449 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: But for that to be illegal, even like after think 450 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: about all the therapy I've done and all this stuff, 451 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't take any of that back, but like 452 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: it's just interesting to think about what is regulated and why, 453 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: and that's really scary to me. Well, and what's interesting 454 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: too is it's classified as a drug and a drug 455 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: it's not what you well, hey, it's a plant. It 456 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: like literally just grows, but it's so is marijuana. But 457 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: what you described just described them saying like I did 458 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: this one time, I might not ever do it again. Yeah, 459 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: that to me is not what someone that does drugs says. 460 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: Drugs are addictive, Drugs are like an ongoing problem. Pills 461 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: that you have to take every day are drugs. No. 462 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: In fact, after I did my psilocybin chip is when 463 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: I decided to stop drinking, like I didn't have a 464 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: taste for alcohol anymore. It was like I had a 465 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: hard time with coffee too, which is also a drug 466 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: and one that I still have not really gotten. I 467 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: don't want to lay it down, but caffeine. Yeah, it's 468 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: like these things that we just are for some reason, 469 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: those are normalized in our society. I keep hearing to 470 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: you like smoking is coming back, and I'm like, what 471 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: what so Yeah, like as a trend, I don't know, 472 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: and I'm just confused, I think more than anything, and 473 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: I'm I can't just like sit here and not say 474 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: this is confusing and scary, like yeah, like I'm not 475 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: wanting to be like a conspiracy theorist or anything like that. 476 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: I just think it's we have to know our own 477 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: bodies and you have to trust your own intuition too. 478 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: And I'm so glad that I did that with this 479 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: because it was the most probably one of the most 480 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: life changing experiences I've ever had. And like you said, 481 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: it was one time and I'll never forget it, Like 482 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: I can't. It's a part of my wiring now, you know. Yeah. Yeah, 483 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need to get back Guy's number. Yeah, it's 484 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: a girl. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, Um, there's a couple other 485 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: podcasts up this month, and I really hope that you 486 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: guys were as curious as we were about some of 487 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: these topics. Again, let's take what you like, leave the 488 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: rest always here on this podcast. But I just I 489 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: don't know, that's the way my brain works, where I 490 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: just want to talk to people who That's what's like 491 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: fun about this podcast is when else that I've gotten 492 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk to a former porn star. I 493 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: have no idea. I mean you may have without knowing it, 494 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: but to I mean, we got some insight on how 495 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: the porn industry works too. That was fascinating. Yeah. Yeah, 496 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: I would have never like even thought to be curious 497 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: about the ins and outs of how they filmed stuff 498 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: or what the ins and outs. That was probably a 499 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: wrong choice work, but they don't anyway, Um, Chip, do 500 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: you have any other insights you want to leave the 501 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: people with? How did your mind expand the most this month? 502 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: Do you think was it the porn conversation? I mean yeah, 503 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know if I realized that in 504 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: the moment, but it's like, I mean that was eye opening. 505 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: It shit, like, yeah, you can't judge a book by 506 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: its cover. I mean, I know that's as cliche as 507 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: it gets, but it's true. And I think, um, you know, 508 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: we're all guilty of it. And whether it's looking at 509 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: someone who's from a different country or a different ethnicity 510 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: or whatever, it is, like just because you have an 511 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: idea about somebody or where they come from, what they do, 512 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: who they're related to, like, it doesn't make it the truth. 513 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: And I think it's really important to give people the 514 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt and have conversations with them because 515 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: you might just be surprised. Also, like when you were 516 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: just saying that, I was thinking, because we asked Candice, 517 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: I said something about, you know, you always hear of 518 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: women in porn like they have some abuse in their past, 519 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: or you wonder about what's there, you know, is it 520 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: daddy issues they're working through or whatever. And she said 521 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: the thing was for her that some of that was 522 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: true and so she couldn't argue that, but she said, 523 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: it's definitely not always true. But what I just thought 524 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: about when you were saying that was like, it is, 525 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, never judge a book by its cover because also, 526 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: like we don't know what that journey brought someone to 527 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: like it sounds like her journey and porn was something 528 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: she needed to do to get to this deeper level 529 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: of understanding of herself and healing within herself, like taking 530 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: her power back, and that was the way that she 531 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: did it. But that doesn't mean that, like she's not 532 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: capable of anything else, you know, which I think is 533 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: something we do as a society. Like I felt that like, oh, 534 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: people on reality TV, Oh, they're just chasing fame or 535 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You don't know, you don't like shit, 536 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: Like definitely, people don't know at all what my motivations 537 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: were and they think they do and it's just weird 538 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: or porn or you could say that for anything. Really, 539 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: like why people post on social media, We just don't know. 540 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: And I think it's just going back to like allowing 541 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: people to space to be human and be on these journeys. 542 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, well, I mean I often think, like 543 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: often the things that I will point out about other 544 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: people or things that I don't like about myself, it's 545 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: always that yeah, it's oh I got it, yeah, and 546 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: it's for me. It's a nice reminder um to love 547 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: yourself more and then I think you'll see the good 548 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: and more people. You know, you'll you'll spend so much 549 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: less time judging others. Yeah, I think that's true. Yeah, 550 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: that's really true. Well, I hope you guys enjoyed the 551 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: episodes this weekend. You can always reach us at the 552 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: Edge at Velvet's Edge dot com or easier if it's easier, 553 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: to slide into my d MS. I'm at Velvet's Edge, Chip, 554 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm at Chip doorsh it's hrp dr sh. That was 555 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: a little low key for you, but I'm feeling a 556 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: little low key. Yeah, I get that, love you too. 557 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: How'd you guys go into the weekend. I hope you're 558 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: feeling better than me and ship for you, and I 559 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: hope that you can live on edge and I hope 560 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: you always remember too that a very hopefully casual bye.