WEBVTT - 10. The Whisper 

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<v Speaker 1>This show contains terrifying, shocking, and haunting stories that some

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<v Speaker 1>listeners may find disturbing or offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's for a m You're driving down a dirt road,

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<v Speaker 2>just off the sixty two. Not a soul in sight,

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<v Speaker 2>just you and the desert night. But wait, you hear

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<v Speaker 2>a signal off in the distance. It's faint that it

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<v Speaker 2>grows louder. Is it a howl of a coyote, the

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<v Speaker 2>hiss of a king snake? Or is the voice of

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<v Speaker 2>a man guiding you toward a great darkness? From my

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<v Speaker 2>heart radio and overtones media, You're listening to YFT two FM,

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<v Speaker 2>the only sound you'll here in the Sleephole Valley. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Dixon Lewis your lone companion for the night, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a.

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<v Speaker 3>New batch of stories to keep you up as.

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<v Speaker 2>You drive down this dusty, desolate highway. We got one

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<v Speaker 2>more tale for you. Ray Morrison has quite the following

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<v Speaker 2>for a true crime author, fame can be a bit suffocating,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when one of his fans takes it too far.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Whisper by James Kim Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you still passing our tickets?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>We're actually done for the day. Please, I'll be less

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<v Speaker 4>than a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're starting to pack things up.

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<v Speaker 4>Please, I can see he's still meeting with a fan.

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<v Speaker 4>I came a really long way.

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<v Speaker 6>I would have gotten here earlier, but there was no parking.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to park like a half mile away.

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<v Speaker 6>I I was supposed to come with my sister and

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<v Speaker 6>she got sick.

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<v Speaker 4>It would mean everything to her if I got him

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<v Speaker 4>to sign this book. Please.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a strict cutoff time. So fine, have a

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<v Speaker 4>good night. I'm just gonna buy one fam.

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<v Speaker 3>No, so we are close.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, is everything okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, mister Morrison, I'm sorry. I was just letting this

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<v Speaker 3>woman know that we're close for the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what, it's fine with me. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay with you, I'd love to sign a book.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was just trying to respect your time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I have time for Sorry. What was your name, Janet? Yes, hi, Janet,

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<v Speaker 1>come on over last one.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm such a big fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you. I'm Ray.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I'm Janet.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't believe I'm meeting you. Will you sign my

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<v Speaker 6>copy of The Whisper?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, thank you. It is a book

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<v Speaker 1>signing of I'm happy to.

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<v Speaker 7>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>I've read all of your books.

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<v Speaker 6>You're incredible at crafting a mystery.

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<v Speaker 4>But this new one.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that is so kind of you. I'm sorry, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>where is everything?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just can't find my pen I've got one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 6>Here, you know, I mean it though. The Whisper is

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<v Speaker 6>unlike anything you ever written. Normally your stories are slow burns,

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<v Speaker 6>but this one happen on the edge of my seat.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it must feel great knowing that critics loved

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<v Speaker 6>it too, especially after what they said about your last book.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, not that it matters what they say.

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<v Speaker 6>I loved it, and your fans loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Look, I appreciate it, Janet, I really do. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I found it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you. Let's see here, I'll.

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<v Speaker 4>Sign Actually, could you sign the back cover flap?

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<v Speaker 6>No need to write a message or anything, just your

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<v Speaker 6>signature would be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure you don't want to buy my beautiful headshot? No? Okay, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>that was dumb. Let's see you know, I know.

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<v Speaker 6>I put a put a line where you can sign

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<v Speaker 6>to make things easier.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there you go. That was easy.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much. Great, truly, this means everything to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you, Janet, of course my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 4>I will never forget this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thanks, thanks again.

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<v Speaker 8>Finally mm hm, when I'm right, I'm right and I

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<v Speaker 8>am always right.

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<v Speaker 7>You were right about this one. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>if either of us thought this would be a huge hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I knew, I always knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it is your job to believe in me, your client.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh still just your agent.

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<v Speaker 1>No that's not what I mean, Margot, No, No, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I thought.

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<v Speaker 5>After fifteen years of working together, you know, I consider

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<v Speaker 5>you a friend.

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<v Speaker 7>But if you don't, yeah, and friends don't let friends

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<v Speaker 7>do random signings in Bloomington.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Okay, you should feel amazing that you could pack

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<v Speaker 5>a small town bookstore like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Not all authors can do that, but not all authors

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<v Speaker 3>are at the top of the best sellers list.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I guess you're right. Maybe I could finally quit

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<v Speaker 1>that teaching job.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize you were doing that for money.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it wasn't really that. It was just that I

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<v Speaker 7>needed a break from writing.

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<v Speaker 3>Why because the critics have been so harsh lately. Okay, right, Look,

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<v Speaker 3>we've been real about this.

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<v Speaker 5>We both know your last few books were goods, but this.

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<v Speaker 3>One's put you right back on top.

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<v Speaker 1>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's to that.

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<v Speaker 5>However, it's good for your image to do a stop

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<v Speaker 5>in a small town every.

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<v Speaker 3>Once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>True, true, true.

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<v Speaker 7>But the downside is it attracts some peculiar fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, what did someone ask you to sign their chest?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there was one person who gave off a very

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<v Speaker 1>strange aura.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I mean true crime fans are usually their

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<v Speaker 5>own breed entirely.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I remember Bobby was telling me he had to

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<v Speaker 3>do an event outside Chicago.

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<v Speaker 6>Janet, you signed my poppy in an experience, Janet, I

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<v Speaker 6>can't believe I'm meeting you.

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<v Speaker 3>You whisper is this means everything that would up to me?

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<v Speaker 4>I will never forget this.

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<v Speaker 5>He is everything.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, she's here? Who the woman from earlier? That the

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<v Speaker 7>one who wanted me to sign her book. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna have to be a lot more specific. There's

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<v Speaker 3>lots of ladies here.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew something was off about her, Dan, What does

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<v Speaker 1>she look like?

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<v Speaker 7>Blue sweater, red hat, edge of the bar by the entrance,

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<v Speaker 7>you see.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, she's staring at us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. I knew this was a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not that big of a deal. Oh, she's probably

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<v Speaker 5>just a fan. She's just a fan, and she's excited

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<v Speaker 5>that her favorite author is in town.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all great, but can we please get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here?

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<v Speaker 3>Look at me, Look at right, look at me. Breathe. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's fine, it's not I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 5>Why don't you sneak out through the back patio, call

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<v Speaker 5>yourself a ride, and I'll hang.

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<v Speaker 3>Here and I'll make sure she doesn't follow you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, see you are my friend than you got you?

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<v Speaker 3>I got you.

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<v Speaker 5>You need you well rested before your live interview with

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<v Speaker 5>The Twin Chronicle tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Nervous, not about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Good Get out of here, go get some sleep.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, okay, thanks, thanks, have a good night.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me? Did you follow me? Listen, ma'am?

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<v Speaker 7>I appreciate you being a fan, but you've crossed a

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<v Speaker 7>line that what are you?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Fan?

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<v Speaker 4>You think I'm a fan?

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<v Speaker 6>You are nothing more than a washed up author who

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<v Speaker 6>became a city college professor because of your career, wedded

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<v Speaker 6>to the shitter.

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<v Speaker 9>Who are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you really write the whisper?

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<v Speaker 1>My name is on the cover miss.

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<v Speaker 6>A murder mystery set during undas where people make kalama HATI.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a story you came up with.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I see what this is about. Now, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can just leave.

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<v Speaker 6>My last name is Rossa, but older sister of Nikki Rusaliz,

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<v Speaker 6>So you do remember, of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course I remember it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, she was a very bright student and what happened

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<v Speaker 7>to her was awful.

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<v Speaker 4>You were her teacher.

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<v Speaker 6>She thought of you as her mentor, and you betrayed her.

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<v Speaker 1>Ma'am, I don't appreciate these defamatories.

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<v Speaker 4>Your copied her book word for word.

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<v Speaker 6>She couldn't handle how successful it became. That's why she

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<v Speaker 6>killed herself.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not my fault.

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<v Speaker 6>You think that was a book you signed earlier? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and that pen was filled with regular ink.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you even talking about about. You're crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>You signed something, all right, and you signed it with

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<v Speaker 6>the blood of my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Step away from me.

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<v Speaker 6>It will come for you and it will take back

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<v Speaker 6>what you have stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a psychopath. You're insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we got a real wild one. Fuck. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back with our broadcast after these messages.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh hi, oh Charles Charles Mendelssohn from The Twin Chronicle.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to meet you.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm the guy who's gonna be your inquisitor today. Okay, yeah, wait,

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<v Speaker 10>freak out. I'm sorry, No, no, I just have a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of my mind. It's sorry. This is going to

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<v Speaker 10>be me throwing you softball questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, They're going to eat it up. They love you. You

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<v Speaker 1>saw how many people are here, right, it's a nice crowd.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, they're so excited to see you and you are going.

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<v Speaker 1>To kill Thanks. Gonna be awesome. Thank you, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for having me. This is like, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>really thank you. All right, showtime.

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<v Speaker 10>Thanks, fantastic to see all of you today. Thank you

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<v Speaker 10>so much for coming. I'm Charles Mendelssohn. I'm the book

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<v Speaker 10>critic at the Twin Chronicle. But you're not here for me.

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<v Speaker 10>You're here for our author, who, over the last fifteen

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<v Speaker 10>years has published ten novels. He has won eight Crime

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<v Speaker 10>Awards for them, and he recently gave the commencement address.

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<v Speaker 10>It is alma mater at a little school in ann Arbor.

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<v Speaker 10>He is currently an English prophet Pico College, where he

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<v Speaker 10>teaches young people how to write true crime. His latest novel,

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<v Speaker 10>The Whisper, has quickly gained attention, both critically and commercially.

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<v Speaker 10>It follows May Flores, who discovers a family secret buried

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<v Speaker 10>in her hometown of Manila. It's a nail biting journey

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<v Speaker 10>to uncover the horrific truths of her family's past.

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<v Speaker 1>The critics love it.

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<v Speaker 10>They have praised this man for his departure from his

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<v Speaker 10>previous work, calling it a gripping and mature tale of

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<v Speaker 10>generational trauma. At the Twin Chronicle, we gave it the

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<v Speaker 10>pick of the week. Ladies and gentlemen, we are honored

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<v Speaker 10>to present today the author himself, mister Ray Morrison.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you pay them to do this?

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<v Speaker 5>As?

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<v Speaker 1>We're welcome? Ray? Got your mic right there? Yep? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>hold it up close to your mouth. Make sure it's on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's on. All right, Hello, Testing, What do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to start? Okay? Ray, great to have you here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 10>Before we talk about The Whisper, I want to talk

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<v Speaker 10>about your past, like, how did you get into writing

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<v Speaker 10>true crime?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 7>I never want to put myself into like sorry, I

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<v Speaker 7>never want to put myself into like a box.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't really like to label myself that way.

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<v Speaker 7>I think if my books is dealing with personal dramas,

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<v Speaker 7>family dynamics, humanistic themes of loss and forgiveness, I didn't

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<v Speaker 7>practice that.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way. It just so happened that people get

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<v Speaker 1>murdered in my books, you know.

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<v Speaker 10>Man, So yeah, and that went great for eight novels,

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<v Speaker 10>and then let's just say there.

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<v Speaker 4>Was a lull.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a nice yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess I'd be lying if I didn't admit that

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<v Speaker 7>those books sucked.

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<v Speaker 10>But did that But did the experience of having two

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<v Speaker 10>books that were not as great? Let's just say, did

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<v Speaker 10>that give you the juice to write the whisper?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, And I guess I guess what happened is,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I became so comfortable in my own style,

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<v Speaker 7>and so I said, what am I going to do? Now,

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<v Speaker 7>Let's take a journey somewhere completely different. Let's leave La,

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<v Speaker 7>let's leave Noir, let's go to the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, you took off in a totally new direction. And

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of the critics they really noticed that. They said,

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<v Speaker 10>it sounds like a new you. It's like like that

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<v Speaker 10>was a totally different author writing that book.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did that come from. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, look, once you write, when you're doing well,

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<v Speaker 7>nothing changes, you don't. You're not forced into change. And

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<v Speaker 7>two really bad books made me think I have to change.

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<v Speaker 7>So I stumbled on this news story about the history

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<v Speaker 7>of the Undas and in the Philippines and well, basically

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<v Speaker 7>it's what's known as Saints Holiday here.

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<v Speaker 10>No all Saints DA that's the correct translation.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I stand corrected, Yes, sorry about that. Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 7>today that's my to remember people who have departed. And

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<v Speaker 7>I found it to be a beautiful but haunting story,

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<v Speaker 7>perfect setting.

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<v Speaker 1>For this novel.

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<v Speaker 10>One of the things I really liked about The Whisper

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<v Speaker 10>is how specific you got.

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<v Speaker 1>You really took us there, all.

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<v Speaker 10>The details like the food and the way they use

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<v Speaker 10>candles to ward off spirits and everything else. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>cultural appropriations a big topic nowadays, as it should be.

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<v Speaker 10>You must have hired, brought in some experts, consulted with

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<v Speaker 10>some experts to get that level of specificity.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know, I don't know. I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>a time that it's different from now.

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<v Speaker 7>And I don't want to sound like a jerk, but

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<v Speaker 7>I only learned to do books on my own, so

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<v Speaker 7>I did all the research. I went to every library

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<v Speaker 7>in the entire county. I found news articles and it

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<v Speaker 7>just helped me with references. Here here we are now

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<v Speaker 7>with the full story. How much time do you spend researching.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever? Whatever? However long it took me to write the book,

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<v Speaker 1>like a year, year and a half. You must have

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<v Speaker 1>gone to the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 7>No, unfortunately, I've not been there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a big risk for you. How do it feel? Sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>How'd this big risk fuelds you? Uh? Yeah, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hear anyone making noises in the audience? What

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody's making the goat sounds goat like a goat

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<v Speaker 1>out in the audience. I don't know, maybe I'm just yeah, sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell if you're being serious or not. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on. Okay, you've got a great sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have ideas about what you want to do next? Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I will. I think that I might

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<v Speaker 1>have an idea about writing something a little more cool.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess close to home now. Ah God, I just

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<v Speaker 7>said that whole thing about departing from you know, Ellen Moore.

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<v Speaker 7>But I'm probably gonna just have to be closer to

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<v Speaker 7>my own personal experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably gonna just write.

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<v Speaker 3>About something that I know and only.

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<v Speaker 11>I know, and it's gonna have my signature style.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise, up stop it.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry, Ray, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna write it. It will be different.

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<v Speaker 9>No no, no, no, no, no no no, get up?

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<v Speaker 11>Sh sh shit shit said.

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<v Speaker 1>No please fuck?

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck sure hell hell?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh oh no, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm sorry. No, please please don't not no, what's not

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<v Speaker 11>not no no, not you? No no, not you. No,

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<v Speaker 11>I didn't I'm sorry. I didn't mean too. Hi. I

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<v Speaker 11>stole Nikki Rosales's story. I'm so sorry I didn't write it.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm I'm so sorry. I needed I was gonna run

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<v Speaker 11>and I needed out.

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<v Speaker 2>You stole the.

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<v Speaker 3>Idea for the Whispers.

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<v Speaker 1>Please don't take my poins.

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<v Speaker 9>Please don't take Why.

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<v Speaker 10>Are you talking to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Please don't hurt me?

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<v Speaker 12>Please please you no, Noyorray, somebody get some help.

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<v Speaker 2>The Whisper is written and directed by James Kim. The

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<v Speaker 2>executive producers are James Kim and Taylor Chaquoine Erica as

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<v Speaker 2>a producer Diego Perez is producer and lead sound designer.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Martinez is a production sound mixer. Matthew Wong is

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<v Speaker 2>a composer. Theme music by Ryo Baum and Robert Garova.

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<v Speaker 2>Artwork by Justin D.

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<v Speaker 1>Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode was recorded at Hobby Shop West in Highland Park,

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles. Jennifer Zey is a production sound mixer. Henrik

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<v Speaker 2>Heiser plays Ray, Tess Bartholomew plays Janet. Gwen Hollander plays Margo,

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<v Speaker 2>John Rabie plays Charles. Katherine Borne Taylor plays the bookstore employee.

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<v Speaker 2>The audience in choir include Alissa Curiel, Angela Wynn, Benjamin Nicholas,

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<v Speaker 2>Ian Gabriel Luna, Isaiah Chacahan, Lauren Battley, Rebecca Bishop, Savannah Rivers,

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<v Speaker 2>Trace Gaynor, and v J. Roussalis. The choir leader You

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<v Speaker 2>Feel In This Too is a production of iHeart Radio

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