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Speaker 1: This show contains terrifying, shocking, and haunting stories that some

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Speaker 1: listeners may find disturbing or offensive.

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Speaker 2: It's for a m You're driving down a dirt road,

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Speaker 2: just off the sixty two. Not a soul in sight,

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Speaker 2: just you and the desert night. But wait, you hear

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Speaker 2: a signal off in the distance. It's faint that it

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Speaker 2: grows louder. Is it a howl of a coyote, the

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Speaker 2: hiss of a king snake? Or is the voice of

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Speaker 2: a man guiding you toward a great darkness? From my

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Speaker 2: heart radio and overtones media, You're listening to YFT two FM,

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Speaker 2: the only sound you'll here in the Sleephole Valley. I'm

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Speaker 2: Dixon Lewis your lone companion for the night, and I've

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Speaker 2: got a.

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Speaker 3: New batch of stories to keep you up as.

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Speaker 2: You drive down this dusty, desolate highway. We got one

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Speaker 2: more tale for you. Ray Morrison has quite the following

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Speaker 2: for a true crime author, fame can be a bit suffocating,

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Speaker 2: especially when one of his fans takes it too far.

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Speaker 2: This is the Whisper by James Kim Okay.

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Speaker 4: Are you still passing our tickets?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: We're actually done for the day. Please, I'll be less

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Speaker 4: than a minute.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're starting to pack things up.

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Speaker 4: Please, I can see he's still meeting with a fan.

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Speaker 4: I came a really long way.

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Speaker 6: I would have gotten here earlier, but there was no parking.

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Speaker 4: I had to park like a half mile away.

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Speaker 4: It would mean everything to her if I got him

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Speaker 4: to sign this book. Please.

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Speaker 3: I'm really sorry.

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Speaker 4: We have a strict cutoff time. So fine, have a

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Speaker 4: good night. I'm just gonna buy one fam.

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Speaker 3: No, so we are close.

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Speaker 1: Hey, is everything okay?

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Speaker 3: Oh, mister Morrison, I'm sorry. I was just letting this

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Speaker 1: Oh you know what, it's fine with me. If it's

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Speaker 1: okay with you, I'd love to sign a book.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was just trying to respect your time.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I have time for Sorry. What was your name, Janet? Yes, hi, Janet,

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Speaker 1: come on over last one.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I'm such a big fan.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I'm Ray.

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Speaker 4: I know I'm Janet.

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Speaker 6: I can't believe I'm meeting you. Will you sign my

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Speaker 6: copy of The Whisper?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, thank you. It is a book

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Speaker 1: signing of I'm happy to.

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Speaker 7: Here.

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Speaker 3: I've read all of your books.

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Speaker 6: You're incredible at crafting a mystery.

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Speaker 4: But this new one.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that is so kind of you. I'm sorry, I'm

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Speaker 1: where is everything?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just can't find my pen I've got one.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 6: Here, you know, I mean it though. The Whisper is

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Speaker 6: unlike anything you ever written. Normally your stories are slow burns,

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Speaker 6: but this one happen on the edge of my seat.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it must feel great knowing that critics loved

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Speaker 6: it too, especially after what they said about your last book.

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Speaker 4: I mean, not that it matters what they say.

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Speaker 6: I loved it, and your fans loved it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I appreciate it, Janet, I really do. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Oh I found it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. Let's see here, I'll.

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Speaker 4: Sign Actually, could you sign the back cover flap?

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Speaker 6: No need to write a message or anything, just your

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Speaker 1: Sure you don't want to buy my beautiful headshot? No? Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: that was dumb. Let's see you know, I know.

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Speaker 6: I put a put a line where you can sign

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. That was easy.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Great, truly, this means everything to me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Janet, of course my pleasure.

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Speaker 4: I will never forget this moment.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks, thanks again.

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Speaker 8: Finally mm hm, when I'm right, I'm right and I

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Speaker 7: You were right about this one. But I don't know

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Speaker 7: if either of us thought this would be a huge hit.

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Speaker 3: Oh I knew, I always knew.

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Speaker 1: Well, it is your job to believe in me, your client.

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Speaker 3: Oh still just your agent.

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Speaker 1: No that's not what I mean, Margot, No, No, it's fine.

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Speaker 3: I guess I thought.

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Speaker 5: After fifteen years of working together, you know, I consider

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Speaker 7: But if you don't, yeah, and friends don't let friends

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, you should feel amazing that you could pack

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Speaker 3: Not all authors can do that, but not all authors

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess you're right. Maybe I could finally quit

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize you were doing that for money.

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Speaker 7: Well, it wasn't really that. It was just that I

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Speaker 3: Why because the critics have been so harsh lately. Okay, right, Look,

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Speaker 3: we've been real about this.

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Speaker 5: We both know your last few books were goods, but this.

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Speaker 3: One's put you right back on top.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 3: Here's to that.

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Speaker 5: However, it's good for your image to do a stop

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Speaker 5: in a small town every.

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Speaker 3: Once in a while.

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Speaker 1: True, true, true.

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Speaker 7: But the downside is it attracts some peculiar fans.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, what did someone ask you to sign their chest?

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Speaker 1: Well, there was one person who gave off a very

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean true crime fans are usually their

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Speaker 3: Oh I remember Bobby was telling me he had to

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Speaker 6: Janet, you signed my poppy in an experience, Janet, I

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Speaker 6: can't believe I'm meeting you.

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Speaker 3: You whisper is this means everything that would up to me?

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Speaker 4: I will never forget this.

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Speaker 5: He is everything.

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Speaker 7: Okay, she's here? Who the woman from earlier? That the

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Speaker 7: one who wanted me to sign her book. I don't care.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to be a lot more specific. There's

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Speaker 1: I knew something was off about her, Dan, What does

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Speaker 7: Blue sweater, red hat, edge of the bar by the entrance,

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Speaker 3: Oh, she's staring at us.

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Speaker 1: Yep. I knew this was a bad idea.

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Speaker 5: It's not that big of a deal. Oh, she's probably

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Speaker 5: that her favorite author is in town.

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Speaker 1: And that's all great, but can we please get out

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Speaker 3: Look at me, Look at right, look at me. Breathe. Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's fine, it's not I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 5: Why don't you sneak out through the back patio, call

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Speaker 5: yourself a ride, and I'll hang.

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Speaker 3: Here and I'll make sure she doesn't follow you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, see you are my friend than you got you?

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Speaker 3: I got you.

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Speaker 5: You need you well rested before your live interview with

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Speaker 5: The Twin Chronicle tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Nervous, not about that.

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Speaker 3: Good Get out of here, go get some sleep.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, thanks, thanks, have a good night.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me? Did you follow me? Listen, ma'am?

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Speaker 7: I appreciate you being a fan, but you've crossed a

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Speaker 7: line that what are you?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Fan?

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Speaker 4: You think I'm a fan?

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Speaker 6: You are nothing more than a washed up author who

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Speaker 6: became a city college professor because of your career, wedded

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Speaker 6: to the shitter.

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Speaker 9: Who are you?

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Speaker 4: Did you really write the whisper?

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Speaker 1: My name is on the cover miss.

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Speaker 6: A murder mystery set during undas where people make kalama HATI.

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Speaker 4: That's a story you came up with.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I see what this is about. Now, Yeah, you

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Speaker 6: My last name is Rossa, but older sister of Nikki Rusaliz,

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Speaker 6: So you do remember, of.

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Speaker 1: Course I remember it.

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Speaker 7: Yes, she was a very bright student and what happened

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Speaker 7: to her was awful.

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Speaker 4: You were her teacher.

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Speaker 6: She thought of you as her mentor, and you betrayed her.

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Speaker 1: Ma'am, I don't appreciate these defamatories.

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Speaker 4: Your copied her book word for word.

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Speaker 6: She couldn't handle how successful it became. That's why she

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Speaker 6: killed herself.

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Speaker 1: That was not my fault.

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Speaker 6: You think that was a book you signed earlier? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and that pen was filled with regular ink.

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Speaker 1: What are you even talking about about. You're crazy.

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Speaker 6: You signed something, all right, and you signed it with

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Speaker 6: the blood of my sister.

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Speaker 1: Step away from me.

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Speaker 6: It will come for you and it will take back

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Speaker 6: what you have stolen.

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Speaker 1: You are a psychopath. You're insane.

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Speaker 2: Nah?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Oh god?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we got a real wild one. Fuck. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with our broadcast after these messages.

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Speaker 7: Oh hi, oh Charles Charles Mendelssohn from The Twin Chronicle.

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Speaker 1: Good to meet you.

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Speaker 10: I'm the guy who's gonna be your inquisitor today. Okay, yeah, wait,

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Speaker 10: freak out. I'm sorry, No, no, I just have a

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Speaker 10: lot of my mind. It's sorry. This is going to

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Speaker 10: be me throwing you softball questions.

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Speaker 1: Okay, They're going to eat it up. They love you. You

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Speaker 1: saw how many people are here, right, it's a nice crowd.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they're so excited to see you and you are going.

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Speaker 1: To kill Thanks. Gonna be awesome. Thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. This is like, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: really thank you. All right, showtime.

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Speaker 10: Thanks, fantastic to see all of you today. Thank you

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Speaker 10: so much for coming. I'm Charles Mendelssohn. I'm the book

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Speaker 10: critic at the Twin Chronicle. But you're not here for me.

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Speaker 10: You're here for our author, who, over the last fifteen

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Speaker 10: years has published ten novels. He has won eight Crime

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Speaker 10: Awards for them, and he recently gave the commencement address.

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Speaker 10: It is alma mater at a little school in ann Arbor.

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Speaker 10: He is currently an English prophet Pico College, where he

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Speaker 10: teaches young people how to write true crime. His latest novel,

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Speaker 10: The Whisper, has quickly gained attention, both critically and commercially.

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Speaker 10: It follows May Flores, who discovers a family secret buried

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Speaker 10: in her hometown of Manila. It's a nail biting journey

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Speaker 10: to uncover the horrific truths of her family's past.

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Speaker 1: The critics love it.

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Speaker 10: They have praised this man for his departure from his

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Speaker 10: previous work, calling it a gripping and mature tale of

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Speaker 10: generational trauma. At the Twin Chronicle, we gave it the

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Speaker 10: pick of the week. Ladies and gentlemen, we are honored

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Speaker 10: to present today the author himself, mister Ray Morrison.

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Speaker 1: Do you pay them to do this?

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Speaker 5: As?

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Speaker 1: We're welcome? Ray? Got your mic right there? Yep? All right,

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Speaker 1: hold it up close to your mouth. Make sure it's on.

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Speaker 1: I think it's on. All right, Hello, Testing, What do

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Speaker 1: you want to start? Okay? Ray, great to have you here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 10: Before we talk about The Whisper, I want to talk

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Speaker 10: about your past, like, how did you get into writing

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Speaker 10: true crime?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 7: I never want to put myself into like sorry, I

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Speaker 7: never want to put myself into like a box.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't really like to label myself that way.

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Speaker 7: I think if my books is dealing with personal dramas,

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Speaker 7: family dynamics, humanistic themes of loss and forgiveness, I didn't

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Speaker 7: practice that.

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Speaker 1: By the way. It just so happened that people get

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Speaker 1: murdered in my books, you know.

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Speaker 10: Man, So yeah, and that went great for eight novels,

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Speaker 10: and then let's just say there.

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Speaker 4: Was a lull.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I guess I'd be lying if I didn't admit that

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Speaker 7: those books sucked.

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Speaker 10: But did that But did the experience of having two

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Speaker 10: books that were not as great? Let's just say, did

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Speaker 10: that give you the juice to write the whisper?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, And I guess I guess what happened is,

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Speaker 7: you know, I became so comfortable in my own style,

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Speaker 7: and so I said, what am I going to do? Now,

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Speaker 7: Let's take a journey somewhere completely different. Let's leave La,

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Speaker 7: let's leave Noir, let's go to the Philippines.

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Speaker 10: Yes, you took off in a totally new direction. And

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Speaker 10: a lot of the critics they really noticed that. They said,

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Speaker 10: it sounds like a new you. It's like like that

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Speaker 10: was a totally different author writing that book.

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Speaker 1: Where did that come from. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean, look, once you write, when you're doing well,

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Speaker 7: two really bad books made me think I have to change.

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Speaker 7: So I stumbled on this news story about the history

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Speaker 7: of the Undas and in the Philippines and well, basically

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Speaker 7: it's what's known as Saints Holiday here.

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Speaker 10: No all Saints DA that's the correct translation.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I stand corrected, Yes, sorry about that. Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 7: today that's my to remember people who have departed. And

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Speaker 7: I found it to be a beautiful but haunting story,

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Speaker 1: For this novel.

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Speaker 10: One of the things I really liked about The Whisper

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Speaker 10: is how specific you got.

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Speaker 1: You really took us there, all.

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Speaker 10: The details like the food and the way they use

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Speaker 10: cultural appropriations a big topic nowadays, as it should be.

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Speaker 10: You must have hired, brought in some experts, consulted with

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Speaker 1: No, you know, I don't know. I grew up in

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Speaker 7: And I don't want to sound like a jerk, but

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Speaker 7: I only learned to do books on my own, so

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Speaker 7: I did all the research. I went to every library

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Speaker 7: just helped me with references. Here here we are now

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Speaker 7: with the full story. How much time do you spend researching.

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Speaker 1: Whatever? Whatever? However long it took me to write the book,

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Speaker 1: like a year, year and a half. You must have

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Speaker 1: gone to the Philippines.

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Speaker 7: No, unfortunately, I've not been there yet.

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Speaker 1: This was a big risk for you. How do it feel? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: How'd this big risk fuelds you? Uh? Yeah, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Do you hear anyone making noises in the audience? What

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Speaker 1: like somebody's making the goat sounds goat like a goat

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Speaker 1: out in the audience. I don't know, maybe I'm just yeah, sorry.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell if you're being serious or not. But

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Speaker 1: let's move on. Okay, you've got a great sense of humor.

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Speaker 1: Do you have ideas about what you want to do next? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I think that I will. I think that I might

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Speaker 1: have an idea about writing something a little more cool.

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Speaker 7: I guess close to home now. Ah God, I just

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Speaker 7: said that whole thing about departing from you know, Ellen Moore.

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Speaker 7: But I'm probably gonna just have to be closer to

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Speaker 7: my own personal experience.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna just write.

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Speaker 3: About something that I know and only.

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Speaker 11: I know, and it's gonna have my signature style.

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Speaker 1: I promise, up stop it.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, Ray, are you okay?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna write it. It will be different.

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Speaker 9: No no, no, no, no, no no no, get up?

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Speaker 11: Sh sh shit shit said.

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Speaker 1: No please fuck?

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Speaker 4: Fuck sure hell hell?

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Speaker 11: Oh oh no, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry. No, please please don't not no, what's not

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Speaker 11: not no no, not you? No no, not you. No,

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Speaker 11: I didn't I'm sorry. I didn't mean too. Hi. I

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Speaker 11: stole Nikki Rosales's story. I'm so sorry I didn't write it.

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Speaker 11: I'm I'm so sorry. I needed I was gonna run

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Speaker 11: and I needed out.

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Speaker 2: You stole the.

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Speaker 3: Idea for the Whispers.

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Speaker 1: Please don't take my poins.

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Speaker 9: Please don't take Why.

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Speaker 10: Are you talking to you?

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Speaker 1: Please don't hurt me?

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Speaker 12: Please please you no, Noyorray, somebody get some help.

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Speaker 2: The Whisper is written and directed by James Kim. The

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Speaker 2: executive producers are James Kim and Taylor Chaquoine Erica as

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Speaker 2: a producer Diego Perez is producer and lead sound designer.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Martinez is a production sound mixer. Matthew Wong is

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Speaker 2: a composer. Theme music by Ryo Baum and Robert Garova.

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Speaker 2: Artwork by Justin D.

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Speaker 1: Lee.

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Speaker 2: This episode was recorded at Hobby Shop West in Highland Park,

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Jennifer Zey is a production sound mixer. Henrik

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Speaker 2: Heiser plays Ray, Tess Bartholomew plays Janet. Gwen Hollander plays Margo,

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Speaker 2: John Rabie plays Charles. Katherine Borne Taylor plays the bookstore employee.

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Speaker 2: The audience in choir include Alissa Curiel, Angela Wynn, Benjamin Nicholas,

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Speaker 2: Ian Gabriel Luna, Isaiah Chacahan, Lauren Battley, Rebecca Bishop, Savannah Rivers,

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Speaker 2: Trace Gaynor, and v J. Roussalis. The choir leader You

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