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Speaker 1: This show contains terrifying, shocking, and haunting stories that some

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Speaker 1: listeners may find disturbing or offensive.

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Speaker 2: It's for a m You're driving down a dirt road,

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Speaker 2: just off the sixty two. Not a soul in sight,

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Speaker 2: just you and the desert night. But wait, you hear

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Speaker 2: a signal off in the distance. It's faint that it

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Speaker 2: hiss of a king snake? Or is it the voice

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Speaker 2: of a man guiding you toward a great darkness? From

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Speaker 2: my heart radio and overtones media. You're listening to YFT

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Speaker 2: two FM, the only sound you'll here in the Sleephole Valley.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dixon Lewis your lone companion for the night, and

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Speaker 2: I've got a new batch of stories to keep you

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Speaker 2: up as you drive down this dusty, desolate highway. We

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Speaker 2: got one more tale for you. Ray Morrison has quite

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Speaker 2: the following For a true crime author, fame can be

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Speaker 2: a bit suffocating, especially when one of his fans takes

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Speaker 2: it too far. This is the Whisper by James Kim.

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Speaker 3: Are you still passing our tickets?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: We're actually done for the day.

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Speaker 3: Please, I'll be less in a minute.

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Speaker 5: Well, we're starting to pack things up.

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Speaker 3: Please, I can see he's still meeting with a fan.

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Speaker 3: I came a really long way. I would have gotten

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Speaker 3: here earlier, but there was no parking.

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Speaker 5: I had to park like a half mile away.

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Speaker 3: I I was supposed to come with my sister and

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Speaker 3: she got sick. It would mean everything to her if

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Speaker 3: I got him to sign this book.

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Speaker 1: Please.

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Speaker 5: I'm really sorry.

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Speaker 3: We have a strict cutoff time, so fine, have a

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Speaker 3: good night.

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Speaker 6: I'm just gonna buy one.

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Speaker 1: Blam No, So we are close. He is everything, okay.

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Speaker 5: Oh, mister Morrison, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: I was just letting this woman know that we're close

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Speaker 1: Oh you know what, it's fine with me. If it's

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Speaker 1: okay with you, I'd love to sign a book.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was just trying to respect your time.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I have time for Sorry.

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Speaker 7: What was your name, Janet?

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Speaker 1: Yes, hi, Janet, come on over last one.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I'm such a big fan.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I'm Ray.

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Speaker 6: I know I'm Janet.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm meeting you. Will you sign my

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Speaker 3: copy of The Whisper?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, thank you. It is a

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Speaker 1: book signing. I'm happy to.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 5: I've read all of your books.

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Speaker 3: You're incredible at crafting a mystery. But this new one.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that is so kind of you. I'm sorry, I'm

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Speaker 1: where is everything?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just can't find my pen I've got one.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 3: Here, you know, I mean it though. The Whisper is

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Speaker 3: unlike anything you ever written. Normally your stories are slow burns,

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Speaker 5: I mean, it must.

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Speaker 3: Feel great knowing that critics loved it too, especially after

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Speaker 3: what they said about your last book. I mean, not

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I appreciate it, Janet, I really do. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Oh I found it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. Let's see here, I'll sign.

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Speaker 3: Actually, could you sign the back cover flap?

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Speaker 5: No need to write a message or anything. Just your

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Speaker 1: Sure you don't want to buy my beautiful headshot? No? Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: that was dumb. Let's see you know, I know.

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Speaker 3: I put a put a line where you can sign

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Great Truly, this means everything to me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Janet, of course my pleasure.

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Speaker 5: I will never forget this moment.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks, thanks again.

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Speaker 8: Finally mm hm, when I'm right, I'm right, and I

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Speaker 1: You were right about this one. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: if either of us thought this would be a huge hit.

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Speaker 5: Oh I knew, I always knew.

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Speaker 1: Well, it is your job to believe in me, your client.

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Speaker 5: Oh still just your agent.

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Speaker 1: No that's not what I mean, Margot, No, No, it's fine.

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Speaker 7: I guess I thought after fifteen years of working together.

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Speaker 7: You know, I consider you a friend, but you don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and friends don't let friends do random signings in Bloomington.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Okay, you should feel amazing that you could pack

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Speaker 7: a small town bookstore like that. Not all authors can

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess you're right. Maybe I could finally quit

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Speaker 5: I didn't realize you were doing that for money.

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Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't really that, It was just that I

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Speaker 7: Why because the critics have been so harsh lately. Okay, right, look,

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Speaker 7: we've been real about this. We both know your last

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Speaker 7: few books were goods, but this one's put you right

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Speaker 7: back on top here. That however, it's good for your

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Speaker 7: image to do a stop in a small town every.

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Speaker 5: Once in a while.

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Speaker 1: True, true, true. But the downside is it attracts some

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Speaker 1: peculiar fans.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, what did someone ask you to sign their chest?

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Speaker 1: Well, there was one person who gave off a very

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean true crime fans are usually their

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Speaker 5: Oh I remember Bobby was telling me he had to

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Speaker 3: Janet, you signed by Bobby an experience, Janet, jan I

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Speaker 3: can't believe I'm meeting you, you whisper is this means

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Speaker 5: I will never forget this. He is everything.

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Speaker 1: Okay, she's here? Who the woman from earlier? That the

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Speaker 1: one who wanted me to sign her book? I don't care.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have to be a lot more specific. There's

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Speaker 1: I knew something was off about her, Dan, What does

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Speaker 1: she look like? Blue sweater, red hat, edge of the

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Speaker 5: Oh, she's staring at us.

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Speaker 1: Yep. I knew this was a bad idea.

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Speaker 7: It's not that big of a deal. O. She's probably

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Speaker 1: And that's all great, but can we please get out

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Speaker 5: Look at me, Look at right, look at me. Breathe. Yes,

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Speaker 5: it's fine, it's not. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 7: Why don't you sneak out through the back patio, call

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Speaker 7: yourself a ride, and I'll hang here and I'll make

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Speaker 7: sure she doesn't follow you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, see you are my friend than.

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Speaker 5: You got you? I got you.

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Speaker 7: You need you well rested before your live interview with

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Speaker 7: The Twin Chronicle tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Nervous not about that? Good Get out of here, go

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Speaker 5: get some sleep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, thanks, thanks, have a good night. Excuse me?

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Speaker 1: Did you follow me? Listen? Man? I appreciate you being

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Speaker 1: a fan, but you've crossed a line that what are you?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Fan? You think I'm a fan?

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Speaker 3: You are nothing more than a washed up author who

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Speaker 3: became a city college professor because of your career, wedded

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Speaker 3: to the shitter.

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Speaker 1: Who are you?

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Speaker 5: Did you really write the whisper?

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Speaker 1: My name is on the cover?

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Speaker 3: Miss a murder mystery set during Undas where people.

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Speaker 5: Make kalama HATI.

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Speaker 3: That's a story you came up with.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I see what this is about. Now, Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: My last name is Rossa, but older sister of Nikki Rusaliz,

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Speaker 3: So you do remember, of course.

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Speaker 1: I remember it. Yes, she was a very bright student

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Speaker 1: and what happened to her was awful.

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Speaker 3: You were her teacher. She thought of you as her mentor,

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Speaker 3: and you betrayed her.

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Speaker 1: Ma'am, I don't appreciate these defamatories.

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Speaker 3: You copied her book word for word. She couldn't handle

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Speaker 3: how successful it became. That's why she killed herself.

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Speaker 1: That was not my fault.

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Speaker 3: You think that was a book you signed earlier. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and that pen was filled with regular ink.

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Speaker 1: What are you even talking about? You're crazy.

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Speaker 3: You signed something, all right, and you signed it with

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Speaker 3: the blood of my sister.

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Speaker 1: Step away from me.

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Speaker 3: It will come for you, and it will take back

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Speaker 3: what you have stolen.

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Speaker 1: You are a psychopath. You're insane.

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Speaker 9: Nah what?

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Speaker 2: Oh god?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we got a real wild one. Fuck. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with our broadcast after these messages.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, oh hi, oh Charles.

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Speaker 10: Charles Mendelssohn from the Twin Chronicle. Good to meet you.

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Speaker 9: I'm the guy who's gonna be your inquisitor today. Okay, yeah, wait,

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Speaker 9: freak out.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, no, I just have a lot of

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Speaker 1: my mind. It's sorry.

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Speaker 10: This is going to be me throwing you softball questions.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 10: They're going to eat it up. They love you. You saw

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Speaker 10: how many people are here, right, it's a nice crowd.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they're so excited to see you and you are

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Speaker 10: going to kill That's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Thank you for having me. This

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Speaker 10: Really thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, showtime. Thanks.

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Speaker 9: Fantastic to see all of you today. Thank you so

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Speaker 9: much for coming. I'm Charles Mendelssohn. I'm the book critic

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Speaker 9: at the Twin Chronicle. But you're not here for me.

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Speaker 9: You're here for our author, who, over the last fifteen

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Speaker 9: years has published ten novels. He has won eight Crime

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Speaker 9: Awards for them, and he recently gave the commencement address.

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Speaker 9: It is alma mater at a little school in ann Arbor.

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Speaker 9: He is currently an English prophet Pico College, where he

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Speaker 9: teaches young people how to write true crime. His latest novel,

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Speaker 9: The Whisper has quickly gained attention, both critically and commercially.

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Speaker 9: It follows May Flores, who discovers a family secret buried

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Speaker 9: in her hometown of Manila. It's a nail biting journey

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Speaker 9: to uncover the horrific truths of her family's past.

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Speaker 10: The critics love it.

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Speaker 9: They have praised this man for his departure from his

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Speaker 9: previous work, calling it a gripping and mature tale of

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Speaker 9: generational trauma. At the Twin Chronicle, we gave it the

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Speaker 9: pick of the week. Ladies and gentlemen, we are honored

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Speaker 9: to present today the author himself, mister Ray Morrison.

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Speaker 1: Do you pay them to do this? As? We're welcome?

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Speaker 7: Ray?

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Speaker 10: You got your mic right there?

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Speaker 1: Yep?

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Speaker 10: All right, hold it up close to your mouth. Make

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Speaker 10: sure it's on.

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Speaker 1: I think it's on. All right, Hello, Testing, What do

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Speaker 1: you want to start? Okay?

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Speaker 10: Ray, great to have you here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 9: Before we talk about the Whisper, I want to talk

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Speaker 9: about your past, like, how did you get into writing

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Speaker 9: true crime?

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Speaker 1: Well, I never want to put myself into like sorry,

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Speaker 1: I never want to put myself into like a box.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't really like to label myself that way I

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Speaker 1: think if my books is dealing with personal dramas, family dynamics,

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Speaker 1: humanistic themes of loss and forgiveness, I didn't practice that.

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Speaker 1: By the way. It just so happened that people get

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Speaker 1: murdered in my books, you know.

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Speaker 9: Man, So yeah, and that went great for eight novels,

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Speaker 9: and then let's just say there was a lull.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice Yeah. Yeah, I guess I'd be lying

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Speaker 1: if I didn't admit that those books sucked.

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Speaker 9: But did that But did the experience of having two

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Speaker 9: books that were not as great? Let's just say, did

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Speaker 9: that give you the juice to write the Whisper?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, And I guess I guess what happened is,

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Speaker 1: you know, I became so comfortable in my own style,

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Speaker 1: and so I said, what am I going to do? Now,

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Speaker 1: Let's take a journey somewhere completely different. Let's leave La,

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Speaker 1: let's leave Noir, Let's go to the Philippines.

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Speaker 9: Yes, you took off in a totally new direction. And

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Speaker 9: a lot of the critics they really noticed that. They said,

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Speaker 9: it sounds like a new you. It's like like that

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Speaker 9: was a totally different author writing that book.

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Speaker 10: Where did that come from?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean Look, once you write, when you're doing well,

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Speaker 1: nothing changes, you don't. You're not forced into change. And

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Speaker 1: two really bad books made me think I have to change.

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Speaker 1: So I stumbled on this news story about the history

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Speaker 1: of the Undas and in the Philippines, and well, basically

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Speaker 1: it's what's known as Saints Holiday here.

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Speaker 10: No, all Saints Day, that's the correct translation.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I stand corrected, Yes, sorry about that. Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 1: today that's my to remember people who have departed. And

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Speaker 1: I found it to be a beautiful but haunting story,

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Speaker 1: perfect setting for this novel.

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Speaker 9: One of the things I really liked about The Whisper

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Speaker 9: is how specific you got.

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Speaker 10: You really took us there, all.

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Speaker 9: The details, like the food and the way they use

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Speaker 9: candles to ward off spirits and everything else. You know,

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Speaker 9: cultural appropriations a big topic nowadays, as it should be.

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Speaker 9: You must have hired, brought in some experts, consulted with

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Speaker 9: some experts to get that level of specificity.

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Speaker 1: No, you know, I don't know. I grew up in

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Speaker 1: a time that it's different from now, and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to sound like a jerk, but I only learned

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Speaker 1: to do books on my own. So I did all

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Speaker 1: the research. I went to every library in the entire county.

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Speaker 1: I found news articles, and it just helped me with references.

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Speaker 1: Here here we are now with the full story.

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Speaker 10: How much time do you spend researching.

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Speaker 1: Whatever? Whatever? However long it took me to write the book,

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Speaker 1: like a year, year and a half.

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Speaker 10: You must have gone to the Philippines.

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Speaker 1: No, unfortunately, I've not been there yet.

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Speaker 10: This was a big risk for you.

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Speaker 1: How do it feel? Sorry, how this big risk builds you? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Do you hear anyone making noises in the audience?

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Speaker 1: What like somebody's making the goat sounds? Goat like a

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Speaker 1: goat out in the audience.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, maybe I'm just yeah, sorry. I can't

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Speaker 9: tell if you're being serious or not. But let's move on. Okay,

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Speaker 9: you've got a great sense of humor.

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Speaker 10: Do you have ideas about what you want to do next?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that I will. I think that

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Speaker 1: I might have an idea about writing something a little

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Speaker 1: more I guess close to home.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Ah God, I just said that whole thing about departing

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Speaker 1: from you know, Ellen Wore, But I'm probably gonna just

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Speaker 1: have been closer to my own personal experience. I'm probably

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Speaker 1: going to just write.

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Speaker 5: About something that I know and only.

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Speaker 10: I know, and it's gonna have my signature style.

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Speaker 1: I promise, stop it. Sorry, Ray, are you okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna write It'll be different.

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Speaker 11: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, get up?

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Speaker 4: Shit said, shit, shit said no please fuck?

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Speaker 1: Fuck sure? Hell hell?

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Speaker 4: Oh oh no, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, please please don't

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Speaker 1: not no what's no? Not no no, not you no no,

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Speaker 1: not you.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 4: I didn't I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I didn't mean too.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 1: I stole Nikki Rosales's story. I'm so sorry I didn't

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Speaker 1: write it. I'm I'm so sorry. I needed I was

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Speaker 1: gonna run and I needed out.

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Speaker 6: You stole the idea for the whispers.

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Speaker 4: Please don't take my poins.

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Speaker 6: Please don't take Why.

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Speaker 10: Are you talking to you?

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Speaker 1: Please don't hurt me?

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Speaker 6: Please please? No, no, no, no, no, hey, Hoorray, somebody get some.

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Speaker 4: Way.

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Speaker 2: The Whisper is written and directed by James Kim. The

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Speaker 2: executive producers are James Kim and Taylor Chaquoine Erica is

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Speaker 2: a producer. Diego Perez is producer and lead sound designer.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Martinez is a production sound mixer. Matthew Wong is

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Speaker 2: a composer. Theme music by Ryo Baum and Robert Garova.

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Speaker 2: Artwork by Justin d.

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Speaker 6: Lee.

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Speaker 2: This episode was recorded at Hobbyshop West in Highland Park,

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Jennifer Zey is a production sound mixer. Henry

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Speaker 2: Kessler plays Ray Tess Bartholomew plays Janet. Gwen Hollander plays Margo,

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Speaker 2: John Raby plays Charles. Katherine Borne Taylor plays the bookstore employee.

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Speaker 2: The audience in choir include Alissa Curiel, Angela Wynn, Benjamin Nicholas,

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Speaker 2: Ian Gabriel Luna, Isaiah Chacahan, Lauren Battlee, Rebecca Bishop, Savannah Rivers,

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Speaker 2: Trace Gaynor, and v J.

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Speaker 1: Roussalis.

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Speaker 2: The choir leader You Feel In This Too, is a

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Speaker 2: production of iHeart Radio and Overtones Media