1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan in 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are fresh coming off 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: the buye. We're going to talk about the last rejuvenated 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Oh of course, of course going to talk about what 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: transpired this weekend and the biggest kind of news entering 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: this week as the Ravens prepared to take on the 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: New York Giants in a critical Week fourteen game here 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: that they need to win get back on the winning streak. 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: So Garrett, you know, obviously, well how much football did 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: you watch this weekend? 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: I did watch some football Sunday. I didn't settle in 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: all day and watch it, but I did watch some. 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: And it's nice, you know, to be able to watch 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: it a little bit. But Ravens didn't get a ton 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: of help that you would have loved. Got a little bit, 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: but not a ton. And when you're talking about the 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: playoff picture, and I do think just at a very 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: high level for the team, I think, and the Ravens 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: talked about it this week. The old adage like the 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: buy comes at the perfect time and you need this 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: bi all stuff. I think, I honestly feel like for 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,919 Speaker 2: this team it was critically important. 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: Because they played a lot of tough games. 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: They played for a long time without a break, and 25 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: this team needed a break. 26 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: I just think they needed a break. I think physically 27 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: mentally it's good. And now on the back end of it, 28 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: you're going into the stretch. We're gonna have three games 29 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: over the course of eleven days in a four game 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: stretch to close out the regular season before going into 31 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: the playoffs. So you go into this playoff push, you're 32 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: playing a ton of games in a short amount of time. 33 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: You were already at a point where you needed the break. 34 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: I just felt like it was a good reset for 35 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: this team, and I felt that way when the team 36 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: came back out here on the practice field today that 37 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: they just felt like it was it was a good 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: kind of opportunity to get rejuvenated. So yep, I thought 39 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: that was good. Now in terms of the playoff picture, 40 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: which were going to talk about, they didn't get too 41 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: much help this weekend. Browns played the Steelers. Steelers took 42 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: care of business against them. So the Steelers are still 43 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: leading the wayst them. You already gote he needed the 44 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: snow game, needed the snow game. But the Steelers are 45 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: still leading the way in the divisi right now, and 46 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: they've got a two game advantage over the Ravens. 47 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, game two games with four left, and so you know, 48 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of models out there that predict teams 49 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: playoff chances, chance of winning the Vision, all those things, 50 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: and basically the Ravens are kind of projected to have 51 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: a twenty five percent chance of winning the Vision. That 52 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: seems that feels a little bit low to me. And 53 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: certainly the Ravens of Steelers face off here at M 54 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: ANDT Banks Stadium next week. 55 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: That will be a. 56 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: Huge game that will massively change that percentage depending on 57 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: the winder there. So you know, you look ahead and 58 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: for the Ravens, it's obviously the Giants, who you know, 59 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: are a team that has been struggling. Then you have 60 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers, then the Texans, who are another team that 61 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: are kind of there right now, the leaders in the 62 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: AFC South, but it has not been smooth sailing for 63 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: them by any means. And then you close the season 64 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: out against the Browns, Like right now, the Ravens have 65 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: played the tough toughest strength to strength the schedule in 66 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: the conference and it's not particularly close. They have played 67 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: a really tough schedule. They've beaten a lot of those 68 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: tough teams. They haven't won them all, but you know 69 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: they're they are battle tested for sure. Coming out of it. 70 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: It evens out a little bit more in this final 71 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: four game stretch. Conversely, the Steelers, of any team in 72 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: the playoff hunt, even at this point, have played by 73 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: far the lightest strength of schedule. This is when the 74 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: going gets tough for the Steelers down the stretch. They 75 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: start off against the Pittsburgh or I'm sorry, the Philadelphia 76 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: Eagles this week, then the Ravens obviously, and then the 77 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs close out against the Bengals. So, yeah, 78 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers have a two game lead, But like, is 79 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: it impossible to think that the Steelers could lose the 80 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: next three? 81 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 3: I don't think it's impossible. 82 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: The Eagles run that have the are the hottest team 83 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: in football and one of the best, then the Ravens 84 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: at our place, and then the Chiefs. 85 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: You have the best record in the in the league. 86 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so certainly not like the Steelers are a good team. 87 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: Is it likely they're going to lose all three? 88 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: No? 89 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: Is it possible? Absolutely as possible. 90 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: So if the Steelers were to drop the next three, 91 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens win the next three, the Ravens are in 92 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: first place. 93 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: It's as simple as that. 94 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it's not inconceivable for them to 95 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: drop the next three. I would say it's unlikely just 96 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: given the fact that they they're ten and three right 97 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: now and they're a really good team. Now it ramps up, 98 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: and obviously the Ravens aren't going to win the division 99 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: unless they beat the Steelers at home. That's that's not 100 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: like that that has to happen in order for the 101 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: Ravens to win. 102 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: It goes beyond that, when you go down the tiebreakers 103 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: and all those things, the Ravens and the Steelers are 104 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: going to end up. If the Ravens beat the Steelers, 105 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: they both take care of business against the Browns and 106 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals respectively. They have the Saints vision record, conference 107 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: record I think will be the same they go down 108 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: to common opponents. 109 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: The Steelers would have beaten the Chiefs. 110 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: In this scenario, potentially Ravens lost the Chiefs and there's 111 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: other ones in there. But I think the Ravens have 112 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: to get ahead of them because they're not They're not 113 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: in great position with the Steelers on tiebreakers. 114 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: Basically, the scenario that you're describing is the Ravens win 115 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: out and they win their final four games of the 116 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: regular season and then which obviously includes beating the Steelers. 117 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: The Steelers then lose two games in this scenario, so 118 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: they know. But I'm saying if they finished tied, then 119 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: the Steelers would go two and two over the course 120 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: of these next four games, right right, right right, and 121 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: then the two teams are tied, then you're going down 122 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: the tiebreaker route. And it depends who those losses come to. 123 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: Do they lose to the Eagles, do they lose to 124 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. There's like a variety of ways you can 125 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: look at these scenarios, but I think that it's it's 126 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: gonna be if the Ravens are gonna win the division. 127 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun interesting because Ravens on Christmas Day 128 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: are gonna be sitting there putting on their Kansas City 129 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: Chiefs gear, getting rid for the route for the Chiefs 130 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: to beat the Steelers before the Ravens end up playing 131 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: the Texans. 132 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: But it could be a great Christmas. 133 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: Can you imagine that this would drop the next two 134 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: including to us yeah, and then we go on the 135 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Christmas Day they're playing the Chiefs. Before we play, they 136 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: lose to the Chiefs, we beat the Texans. 137 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Magical Christmas. 138 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: If it snows that they Baltimore, it'll be the greatest 139 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: Christmas of all toss. 140 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: Santa would come down the chimney with a very nice gift. 141 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that'd be amazing. 142 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: Right now, the Ravens, according to ESPN's projections, the most 143 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: likely when we're talking just seeds, right, So Ravens still 144 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 1: have like a ninety eight percent chance of making the playoffs. 145 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: They're in a really good position. 146 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: The Colts and the Dolphins are still kind of knocking 147 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: on the door. 148 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: They are two games back. Ravens are in. 149 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Good position to make the playoffs. I feel pretty strong 150 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: about their chances there there. It's kind of more about 151 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: seeding this weekend. So the Chargers loss to the Chiefs 152 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: meant that the Ravens leapt ahead of them in the 153 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: in the seedings. As if this if the season were 154 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: to end today, right then the Ravens would be the 155 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: number five seed, which would mean starting playoffs on the 156 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: road against the Houston Texans, who I mentioned, you know, 157 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: they it's been a little bit. 158 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: Of a tougher stretch for them. 159 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: So that's the most likely scenario for the Ravens at 160 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: this point, according to ESPN's projection, a forty one point 161 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: five percent chance of being the five seed. 162 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: And I think, look, ideally, you win the division, you 163 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: get a home game, that's like where it starts. You 164 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: want to get there. And this sounds like a coach 165 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: speak talking here, but I just think rather than all 166 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: these things are fun to talk about the scenarios, I 167 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: think for the Ravens, they just need to this is 168 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: a stretch here where they may be favored in all 169 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: four of these games potentially, and like so they have 170 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: a chance here to right the ship and just get 171 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: hot going into the playoffs. 172 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: But even if you end up, if you end. 173 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: Up as the five seed and you have to go 174 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: on the road for the entire way, okay, so be it. 175 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: But you win four straight games and you ride high, 176 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: like that's what this stretches you feel exactly like do 177 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: you want to win the division? Of course, but if 178 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: you don't, you just want to be headed in the 179 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: right direction going into the postseason. And the Ravens have 180 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 2: a chance to do that. Regardless of where they ultimately 181 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: end up in the standings. They could end up, like 182 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: I said, they might end up as a five seed 183 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: and they drop some games, and they drop the game 184 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: to the Raiders that of course they're kicking themselves over. 185 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: You want to win that game. So maybe they don't 186 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: win the division, but you can still get hot and then, 187 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: as you always say, getting the dance, anything can happen. 188 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think that's how John Harball is talking 189 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: to this team about this coming out of the by 190 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: It's kind of a reframe. Season starts now, right this 191 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: is when we need to play our best football. It 192 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: really does feel like a reset around here, and it's like, 193 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: all right, let's see what we're made of. Like we've 194 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: thought this whole time. You can throw out the record. 195 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: We thought we're one of the best teams in the league. 196 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: We've went into the season with Super Bowl aspirations, like 197 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: we think. 198 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: We're good enough to get there. 199 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: Let's find out, like we're about to find out, and 200 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: we need to find play our best football right now. 201 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: And the fact of the matter is this is a 202 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: really good team that can play really good football when 203 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: this offense is clicking. As we said, many times. 204 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: Really hard to stop. 205 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: This defense is getting better, Like, I think that there's 206 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: certainly good reason to believe that this team can get hot. 207 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I think that in 208 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: some ways it feels like just going to the playoff 209 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 2: mentality right now. That's one of the benefits potentially of 210 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: having this late by exactly. And I felt that way 211 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 2: really based on two things. One was John Harball made 212 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: that quote, had that quote in his last press conference 213 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: going into the buy where he talked about the Bill 214 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: Parcells quote of the season starts after Thanksgiving, and that's 215 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: the free frame that you're talking about. And I go 216 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: back to Lamar Jackson's presser after the game against the 217 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: Eagles where he was hot and he was fired up, 218 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: and he's like, I just want to get back on 219 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: the field, like now I want to get we just 220 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: need to get this buy over with. And I think 221 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: that there is a real sense of urgency with this team. 222 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: And I also think a good part of it is 223 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: the Ravens are getting healthy too. The buye physically is 224 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: good for this team, and it seems like they're going 225 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: to get some pieces back potentially this week. 226 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, So Kyle van Noy. Kyle Annoy's back on 227 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: the field. That's big news. He missed the last game 228 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: against the Eagles, and then Rashad Bateman left that Eagles game. 229 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: With a knee injury. 230 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: John Harball described it as knee swordis and he's on 231 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: the practice field here on Monday, So really good news 232 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: on both those that there's nothing major. 233 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: Looks like Vanoy's going to be back. 234 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: And then John Harball also said Michael Pierce was a 235 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: full practice participant as well as Travis Jones, so could 236 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: looks like they will likely get stronger in the trenches 237 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: on the defensive line. They have open roster spots, so 238 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: it's no trouble to bring Michael Pierce back off IR 239 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: onto the fifty three. 240 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: Pierce is currently on IR. 241 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: Designated for a return, so he's in his practice window. 242 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: He's twenty one day practicinger right now. 243 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: But judging by the fact that he's a full participant 244 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: on Monday, that's a really good sign that he could 245 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: be ready to play this weekend against the Giants, which 246 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: will be nice to get him, you know, maybe he 247 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: wouldn't play his usual snapshare, but get him kind of 248 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: ramped up a little bit. Before you go against the Steelers, 249 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: a run heavy team. You'd like to have Michael Pierce 250 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: up there and Travis Jones being a full participant. 251 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: He's been dealing with that angle injury for a while now. 252 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: And even Zach Orr said, you know, I think the 253 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: buye is going to be best for Travis Jones and 254 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: said that he could be a dominant player for the 255 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: Ravens down the stretch with a fully healed ankle on. 256 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: The defensive line. 257 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: As I've said many times that this D line can 258 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: be really, really destructive, and getting those guys healthy is 259 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: a big part of that. 260 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: If you have your two to work, two workhorses in 261 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: the middle of the defensive line to eat up blockers 262 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: and recavoc in the backfield, that's what you want. 263 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: And so with the Eagles, the Eagles Z line, the 264 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: effect that that can have, the impact that they can make, 265 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens can be just as impactful with 266 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: their guys. 267 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it would be big to have Mike Pierce 268 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: back in the lineup. Another big storyline going into the 269 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 2: buy was justin Tucker obviously did not have a good 270 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: game against the Eagles and has been struggling this year. 271 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: John Harbaugh did talk about him briefly during his press 272 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 2: conference on Monday and said, you know, I did talk 273 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: to him this week, and it feels like he's in 274 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: a good place. 275 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: Yep. 276 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: So that's good. I think that everyone's with it. Whenever 277 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: a kicker struggles, you kind of go to the mental 278 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: side of things, especially a kicker who's been as successful 279 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: as Tucker throughout his career. But so Harbball saying he 280 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: feels like he's in a good place, I think speaks 281 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: to the mindset and the confidence that the Ravens still have. 282 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: And Justin Tucker, Yeah, just being out there practice for 283 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: the small portion that the me is out there, it 284 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: seems like Justin Tucker is the same Justin Tucker that 285 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: we've always seen. And so I think the reset for 286 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: him is a positive and you know, excited to see 287 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: him hit some game winners down the stretch here for sure. 288 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: And then another talking point of practice this week with 289 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson. He is suspended. So the Ravens announced at 290 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 2: the end of last week that Deanty Johnson was going 291 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: to be suspended for one game. That suspension basically starts now. 292 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: He was not on the practice field, so he suspended 293 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: this week. He's not going to play in the game 294 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: against the Giants, will not practice over the course of 295 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: this week. So it's a one week suspension. 296 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: Right And Rashad Bateman and Zay Flowers both talked to 297 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: reporters in the locker room, you know, said they'd welcome 298 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson back, and so that's gonna be John Harball, 299 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: I think put it said it, well, all that stuff 300 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: is kind of that's outside noise, that's the waite noise 301 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: around this team. Like right now, it's about football. It's 302 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: about playing your best football. And I think that that 303 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: suspension aside, they are very capable of doing that, right 304 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: And so it's kind of they're blocking that stuff out, 305 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: you know. And and obviously it's a big media story 306 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: anytime a player gets suspended in all those things, but 307 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: I think that this team is kind of taking that 308 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: playoff mentality laser focus, all right, let's play our best 309 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: football right now. 310 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: And I think that I'm with you. I just think 311 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: that that's that's sort of the message the focus coming 312 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: out of the Spy. It goes back to what I said, 313 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: I feel like the playoffs they're they're starting for this team, 314 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: and they're going into that mindset and these next four 315 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: weeks are going to determine where this team goes. And 316 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: I still think I have a lot of optimism around 317 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: the team. I feel like coming out of the by, 318 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: they're going to get things really pointed in the right direction. 319 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: I think that whenever you lose going into a bye week, 320 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: it's just like, we have a negativity to talk about 321 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: for two weeks, and that's what happens. Not to mention 322 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: the fact that the Eagles are maybe the best team 323 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: or one of the best four teams in football. You 324 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: just have you lost to them in a close game 325 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: going into the by, and so now everyone's like, oh, 326 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: this is the sky is fallowing, because that's what happens 327 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: when you lose game. And so Eagles, really good team, 328 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: lost a tough game there. But now the Ravens have 329 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: a chance to get back on the right track, and 330 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: I think they will. 331 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, looks like the Ravens will face Drew Locke from 332 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: the Giants. Brian day Ball, their head coach said that 333 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy. Drew Locke went on and 334 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: had an MRI today, but as long as he's healthy, 335 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: he's going to start against the Ravens at quarterback. The 336 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: Ravens have faced him one other time when he was 337 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: a starter starter for the Denver Broncos and had a 338 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: pretty lopsided winning that the Ravens are gonna be favored 339 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: to beat the Giants. They're also banged up on their 340 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: offensive line. They're gonna be favored to win that game. 341 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: But you gotta win it right there. There's no you 342 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: don't just you gotta get on the bus, get off 343 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: the bus, get on the field to play right. 344 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: They don't just give you the dubs. 345 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: And you know the Giants have been struggling, but hey, 346 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: this is a team with talented players and the Ravens 347 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: gotta go up there and they got to get a win. 348 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: And we we gotta go up there and eat some 349 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: pizza and we're gonna get that. 350 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: Is that your main focus on the week, and we're gonna. 351 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: Get a head start on that. 352 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: Today we brought in a couple pizza experts, okay to judge, 353 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: to bring us not only some pizza, but also judge 354 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: our reviews of the pizza. 355 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: We always listeners know that we like to do drafts 356 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: on the podcast, and we like food and we like foods. 357 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's really a perfect marriage here food drafts. 358 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: This is exactly what we want here. So we on 359 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: the on the back end of this, we're gonna do 360 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: our pizza power rankings. I also want to mention if 361 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: you're listening to this, you might want to watch it, 362 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: like if you want to see the pizza right part 363 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: of it. You want to see the foods, the visual experience. 364 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: It's a visual experience that's part of the whole that's 365 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: part of the whole deal. So we will have the 366 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: whole video from the draft posted on our YouTube channel, 367 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: on our our app and our website Tuesday morning, so 368 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: you can watch it there if you want to see 369 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: the actual pizza and then make the reviews for yourself. Yes, 370 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: and as again, as always, you can email us at 371 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net and let 372 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: us know your favorite type of pizza. 373 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and who won the power rankings. 374 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: It's not just that you can't taste it, it's true, 375 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: but you can let us know your style, your preferred style, 376 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: and that's what we're doing. This is all based on 377 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: the style of pizza. So when we will take a 378 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: quick break, when we come back we'll dive into those 379 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: pizza power rankings. You're listening to the Lounge podcast. 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Right, So 395 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: we brought in a couple of experts onto the show. 396 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: Here. 397 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: This is Senior vice president of Operations Simon Galan, and 398 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: then Flick Hospitalities chef Tyler Hines, and so chef Tyler. 399 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: He baked all the pizzas and he's also going to 400 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: be our pizza delivery guy. 401 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 3: So and what we're gonna do here is we're gonna 402 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: it's kind of like the one byte challenge, right, this 403 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 3: is this is Simon's idea. Really Okay, it's a combination 404 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: and it's not just you know, you're the ideas guy. 405 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: Yah, you know, before we before we jump into eating 406 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: the pizza, I do actually just want for the viewers 407 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: or listeners to know have an understanding Simon. Simon makes 408 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: things run behind the scenes here, right, So I don't 409 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: I want to give team effort a team effort. I know, 410 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: I know you've passed the spotlight, but you and your 411 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: team are incredibly important in making everything run here behind 412 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: the scenes. Can you just kind of explain quickly what 413 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: it is that Operations does, because I think there's a 414 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: lot of people that don't have a full understanding of 415 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: all that goes on to get the team to game 416 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: day and all that. 417 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 4: Well, it's a total team effort, you know, Operations is 418 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 4: you know, I always say it's really the team behind 419 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: the team. You know, we're here to support the organization 420 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: on and off the field, whether it's team services, whether 421 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: it's our building operations department, our fantastic grounds crew are 422 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 4: outstanding operations and team travel department, and food services. You know, 423 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 4: it's all working together to make sure that the players 424 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: and the coaches have everything they need for game day. 425 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: Well, the food is really near and near to our heart, 426 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I mean I think everybody in the 427 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 2: organization feels that way. You guys do a great job, 428 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: and we made the transition to Flick Hospitality this offseason, 429 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: and I would say probably the biggest talking point when 430 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: you guys arrived was the pizza oven. Yeah, well the 431 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: pizza oven, I mean that is that is that kind 432 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 2: of the pride and joy there in the cafeteria? 433 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's gorgeous. I mean it's from right down 434 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 5: the street too, right the company. 435 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, Mary former who's what about a couple. 436 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 5: Half hour Yeah, half hour away from here. 437 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 4: So it's great to be able to support local businesses 438 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: and you know, really bring something different that we haven't 439 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: had here before, which I think everybody loves. 440 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 3: And Chef Tyler just what's it like feeding a football team? 441 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: You know what goes into that? I mean, I know 442 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: I eat my fair share. But there's a lot of 443 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: other people also eating a lot of food around here. 444 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a it's a lot of mouths 445 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 5: to feed, right. Definitely are in training camp, you know, 446 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 5: three meals a day, five six days a week depending 447 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 5: on the week. But uh but we love it. I mean, 448 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 5: the staff does an unbelievable job in there. I mean 449 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 5: we we push out probably two hundred to two hundred 450 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 5: fifty pounds of protein every single meal period. So uh so, 451 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 5: definitely keeping the guys fed in full and uh and 452 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 5: fueled for the game. So just trying to prepare them 453 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 5: for the week every week. 454 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: All right, what are some of the favorites? Like, what 455 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 1: are players favorite things that you make? 456 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 5: Well, there's the pizza, right, they definitely love the pizza. 457 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 5: Another favorite that we're actually doing tonight for dinner or 458 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 5: Korean short rips. 459 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 2: That's a big one. 460 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 3: That is a good one. 461 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: So that's a that's a big one. They love Taco 462 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 5: Day anything Mexican a big one there too. 463 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: So you limit that to tuesdays. 464 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 5: However the menu falls on that day. I just try 465 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 5: and mix and match it a little bit. 466 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, Simon, do you have who has final say 467 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: on the menu here, how does this work? Do you 468 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: just a chef? I mean, how does it? How does 469 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: the process go of building out this menu? 470 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 4: Well, you know, chef works really closely with our head 471 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: of sports nutrition and Sarah Snyder, and they really work 472 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: in tandem to really create the menu. Sarah does a 473 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: fantastic job of fueling the athletes and making sure that 474 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: they have everything they need, and we really work in 475 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 4: her direction and make sure that the players, coaches and 476 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 4: staff of everything they need to be successful. 477 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 478 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: So one other cool thing about this trip, sorry to 479 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: cut you off, Garrett, is that we take the train 480 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: to New York and Simon and his crew kind of 481 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: all organized. That's very different from flying to all the 482 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: other cities obviously, well not all of them, but Philly. 483 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: We take a train, right, But what goes into that, Like, 484 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: take us a little bit behind the scenes about what 485 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: it's like putting an NFL team on a train. 486 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: You know, it's definitely different than our normal standard plane flight. 487 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 2: Right. 488 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 4: Joan and Dan in the team travel department do a 489 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: fantastic job of making sure that everything runs seamless from 490 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: you know, parking at the train station and getting on 491 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: the train and getting off to get on the bus 492 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 4: to get to the hotel, to then doing it all 493 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: over again on game day, right, And it's trying to 494 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 4: really just keep no matter if it's planes, trains, buses, 495 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 4: it's trying to keep everything consistency and trying to make 496 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: sure that everybody is doing the things that they need 497 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 4: to do without having to worry about where we're going 498 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 4: and what we're doing. 499 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 2: And Join and Dan do a fantastic drop. 500 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: It's a lot of moving parts, right because you're traveling 501 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: with over two hundred people, but they make it so 502 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 4: seamless where that nobody ever really notices. 503 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 504 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: One thing I'll say about team travel that I've learned 505 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 2: very early on is you know, if the bus leaves 506 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 2: it one, the bus leaves at one. And so if 507 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: you listen, if you listen to you the podcast after games, 508 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: if we sound rush at all, because we're both on 509 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: the road, we want to make sure that we're not 510 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: spending the night in the city that we don't intend 511 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: to be spending the night because Simon will leave us, Simon, 512 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: you will leave us. 513 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 3: The time is the time, you know, guys. 514 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: You know it's like when we say hey, when I 515 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 4: send that a text out after the game saying, Hey, 516 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: we're leaving in one hour. We're leaving in one out, 517 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: So I won't say you'll see the buses behind you 518 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 4: if you're not if you're not there in an hour. 519 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: But I wouldn't try it either. 520 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: One time I was running down the plane was taken off. 521 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: I was running on the runway and I just look 522 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: in the window. I see Simon and he just goes, I'm. 523 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: Just kidding. 524 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: For you. 525 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 3: I might do it just because you're my guy. All right, 526 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: let's say some pizza. All right, So we're gonna bring 527 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: out five different pizzas. Chef Taler, can you tell us 528 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: all the pizzas? 529 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, we have a Detroit style pizza. 530 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: Okay. 531 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 5: We have a deep dish from Chicago. We also have 532 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: a New Haven style pizza. I don't know if you've 533 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 5: got you guys have ever tried that? I think I 534 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 5: have a pizza is it super thin, super thing crossed? Yep? 535 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 5: Brooklyn style, and then we also have like a classic neopolodan. 536 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: All right, all right, what is the pizza that we 537 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: typically make here in the facility. Typically it's like, okay. 538 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 3: This week because of the jazzka. 539 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, we've we've done. Yeah, we have New York this 540 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 5: week actually. 541 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 4: Tomorrow to okay, all right, well hold on, do we 542 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 4: talk about the toppings? 543 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: Oh, the toppings are all consistent, right, we had to 544 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: have the baseline, right, this just pepperoni? 545 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 3: Right? 546 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: All right? 547 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 3: Well, I'm lactus and tolerant. This is gonna end. 548 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 2: Really, what do you want to start it up? 549 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: To? You? 550 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 5: Guys? What do you think, Simon? 551 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 4: Do you want to try New York? 552 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 3: Since yeah, New York that way? Now, Now, in New 553 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: York slice is that you have to be able to 554 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 3: fold it kind of yeah, a little more. 555 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: Of a fold. 556 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 5: New York and the Neapolitan are very similar. The Neapolitan 557 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 5: is just a little more like rustic. You'll see like 558 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 5: a little more burn around the edges, not burn, I guess, 559 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 5: like crisp. But the New York kind of should hold 560 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 5: up to like eat them, eat them to go. You know, 561 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 5: when you're walking down the streets in New York. 562 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: See, now I think of a New York it's almost 563 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: like a like a like cold like and New Yorkers 564 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: are obviously very judgmental pizza. So like, when you're making 565 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: a New York style pizza, do you feel like the 566 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: steaks are really high. 567 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: Prussures on. 568 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: Man at the pizza oven. How hot does the pizza 569 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 2: oven get down there? 570 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 5: This one gets up to eight eight fifty if we 571 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 5: need it to. Most of these are cooked around six hundred. 572 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so this cooked around six hundred. 573 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 5: How long? Yeah, five to seven minutes, depending on the 574 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 5: on the pizza. But yeah, this one probably about six minutes. 575 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: Okay. Geez man, Yeah that was it one slice? Myself 576 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: restrain is low. Yeah, I do need that lacta though. 577 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 3: I do like the cheese. 578 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: You know, it's not too much, it's just the right amount. 579 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a blend that we make in house. It's 580 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 5: a mozzarella, fontina and parmesan. 581 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: All together, right, the same, the same cheese on every 582 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: every pizza. 583 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, just consistency for this. But yeah, that's the only 584 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 5: one that's slightly different is the Detroit because you can't 585 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 5: make Detroit style pizza without Wisconsin cheddar cheese. 586 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 4: I think the pepperoni did help the overall quality. 587 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: Of the pizza. 588 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, I think the pepperoni was really really good. 589 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: So is it going to be different on the other The. 590 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 5: Same pepperoni on everyone except the deep dish ones. 591 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: But all right, all right, let's move on. 592 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: Let's go what do you want to go with next? 593 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: Detroit? 594 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 5: So the theory behind these guys is, uh, the Detroit 595 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 5: style pizza pans they say actually made in drip pans 596 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 5: from oil with cars back in the day in Detroit, right, 597 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 5: And that's how they came up with the idea to 598 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 5: make these pizzas and drip pands. So that's why Detroit 599 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 5: style pans are made. 600 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: That seems healthy. Yeah, yeah, just a little oil on it. Look, 601 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: this is amazing. I attempted to take the one with 602 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: a lot of cheese on it. 603 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna. 604 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: You're not that guy. 605 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 5: The corner ones are the best ones. 606 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: It's like it's like a breadstick. Yeah, but with like 607 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 3: the stuff on top. 608 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: What what is the cheese mixture on top? 609 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 5: So same cheese mixture And just I was we're caught 610 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 5: on top too. 611 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I got you see the big Yeah, this is 612 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: what happens to the garlic nuts and the I'm gonna 613 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: bring them back? 614 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 5: That is a constant question. We're going to bring them back. 615 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 5: We just have to wait for our numbers to change up. 616 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, because you guys do make a lot of 617 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: different things into pizza oven. 618 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: The garlic yeah, yeah, the first time the garlic mats 619 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: ever came out, our our boss Michelle, she had she 620 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: had us go back. She was like, everybody's going back 621 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: for seconds of gard It was like a mandatory thing, 622 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: and she was not wrong. 623 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 5: It's so funny. It's like the simplest thing that we 624 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 5: make to and everybody's like, oh, this is the best 625 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 5: thing ever. You know, hey, we have to bring it back. 626 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: So I I I went in, I won't say with 627 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: low expectations for Detroy, but didn't really know like what 628 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: to expect. And this has impressed me more than I 629 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: even expected it too. Yeah, I just think it's I 630 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: think it's it's excellent. 631 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 5: There's a really sneaky good style pizza place around. 632 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 2: Her too, Okay, And I mean I think I think 633 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: that the only issue with it is if I eat 634 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: too much of that, like I will be asleep for 635 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: the rest of this podcast. But it is pretty dopey. 636 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: It is very there's not much sauce. It's normal sauce. 637 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that. 638 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, so we have New Haven style pizza next. 639 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: Okay, big change up big change. 640 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: Change up, especially from the Detroit. 641 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: But it does, That's what I'm saying. 642 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: But but like so it's just New York. Yeah, I 643 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: was gonna say, I would give just probably guess New 644 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: York and looking at it, it's just thinner cross, thinner cross. 645 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 5: It's very consistent around. There's no like big crust on 646 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 5: the end. It should be like crispier across the board. Yeah, 647 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 5: all right, these are actually served smaller, a little bit 648 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 5: smaller typically, but just had to had to go all 649 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 5: out for you. 650 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: This, this is a little little less flap than the 651 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: New York. Right, you wouldn't fold this, see you would 652 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: have folded you could be could. 653 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: But it's a pinch. I would say, it's not a fold. 654 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: It's a pinch. 655 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 656 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not gonna say it's the best part, 657 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: but it's right up. 658 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: It's an important piece. Cross. You're you're skipping a really yeah, 659 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 2: miss have you ever done a stuff crust or now? 660 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 5: Oh? 661 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, stuff? Oh for sure. 662 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: No, I don't need it backwards like some people do. 663 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: That's just a little, i mean a little too out 664 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: there for We saw, yeah, we saw how. 665 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: Many kids do that, but we saw how you devoured 666 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 2: the Detroit style, which is basically all cross because it's 667 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: so thick. Yes, that's my I think it's got the 668 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 2: scales of tilted all day. 669 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: You don't get this body without carbs. 670 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 5: Body by carbs. 671 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: Love it carvesier well, I mean a good one for 672 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: carbs and is probably a deep dish, right. 673 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 5: Cars. 674 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: You know. 675 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: I am a little impressed with the new Haven. 676 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 3: You're what you're impressed new Haven? 677 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know that I've had I had had 678 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: new Haven. Maybe I had, I just didn't notice it. 679 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 4: I feel like it's a little bit more easier, like 680 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: you know in the cafeteria. You know, you want to nibble, 681 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 4: but it doesn't before you grab something else. That's kind 682 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: of like a walk around type of pizza. 683 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: Wow, oh my, so we have the deep dish here. 684 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: I'm excited about this. Okay, so obviously no pepperoni on 685 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: this one. Wait a second, So there is deep dish. 686 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 5: You do a very thin layer of sauce, sorry, very 687 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 5: thin layer of cheese, very thin layers. All of your 688 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 5: toppings underneath that, cheese on top of that, and then 689 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 5: sauce on top of that. 690 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: I did not know that do you make is this 691 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: in the pizza oven too. 692 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so sorry, go ahead, how do you? How 693 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: do you prepare it? 694 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: Obviously it's a different pan. 695 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 5: Different pans, So the Detroit and the Deep Dish are 696 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 5: both in pans, and the rest of them just go 697 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: right in the pizza oven on the stone. But this 698 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 5: takes a lot longer. This took probably about twenty five 699 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 5: minutes at about four hundred degrees instead. 700 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: So okay, So Simon previously worked for the Chicago Bear, 701 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: so he's the expert on this Chicago Deep Dish. 702 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: Here are you? Does this bias you at all? You're 703 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 3: the judge. Do you remain unbiased? That's of course, okay. 704 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: He's a true journalist, big jay journalist right in. 705 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 5: This might be the fork and knife one we go fork, 706 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 5: no fork, we just go. I doesn't bring any forks, 707 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 5: So I apologize, all right. 708 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: So I will admit that the last time we played 709 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: in Chicago late night, ordered ordered it some pizza. Everybody 710 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: else wanted to go to some other place for dinner 711 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: that night, Like my little travel party crew I was 712 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 1: hanging with that night, and I'm like, we gotta get 713 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: Deep Dish pizza while we're here. They were like nah, 714 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: we don't feel like blah blah bla blah. So I 715 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: get back to my hotel room late that night, I'm like, 716 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm getting Deep Dish pizza while in Chicago, Like that 717 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: is happening. I'm not hungry at all, but I order 718 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: it delivery to the room, bring it up. They didn't 719 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: include plates. 720 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: I'm just in the hotel room. 721 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to eat this pizza all in bed, sauce 722 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: on sauce all over the duvet. 723 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: A mess. I mean, what color was it was? It 724 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: was it like a white sauce. No, No, the sheets, 725 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: the sheets, white sheets, That's where you saw that hotel 726 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: I The next morning I go, I'm like wiping it all. 727 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to clean it all up. Next morning go 728 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: down to joone right and uh, I'm like, I gotta 729 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: come clean. These duvets are will never be the same. 730 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: Let me know what the bill is, like, I know 731 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: this is getting charged room. 732 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: She's like, don't worry about it. 733 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: We got you so that your staff, I mean professionals, 734 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: that's what they said. 735 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: But then they just payroll deducted you. I hope you 736 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: didn't notice. What do you think of the Deep Dish 737 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: so I'll be honest, My style is not My preferred 738 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: style is not deep dish. It's just it's just a 739 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: little bit too much. It's daunting, where like I think 740 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: it's it's it's good, but it's not my preferred style 741 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: of pizza. Like and even the like the Detroit is thick, 742 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: and that is I guess daunting as well, because it's 743 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: a big thick piece. But it's it feels a little 744 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: bit more consumable than deep dish. 745 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: To me, I get, I gotta get a little a 746 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: b testing here, go back and you Haven, you're gonna. 747 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: Need a couple more slices because you already ate your whole. 748 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: Detroit. It's like lighter, it feels heavier. 749 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 5: They say that, like this is like the Lasagna of pizzas. 750 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, as is a Chicago expert. Were you a fan 751 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: of deep dish in Chicago? Oh for sure, Okay, for sure. 752 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 4: But there's so many options, you know, I don't know. 753 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 4: I guess when I'm looking at all these pizzas, right, like, 754 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 4: look at New Haven, we're looking at New York Style, 755 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 4: We're looking at Chicago and Detroit. The Detroit one just 756 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 4: seems a little too much dough like it just seems 757 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 4: like a lot of bread. 758 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: It feels different. 759 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: It does feel different, and it's different than any of 760 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 4: the others. I'm not going to say what I'm leaning towards, 761 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 4: but but I will say that, uh, Detroit, So I 762 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 4: just kind of I don't know, it just doesn't I'm 763 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 4: not a big fan. 764 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: I guess, okay, I guess I can stow that away. 765 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: That we're doing this. 766 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: We're doing our power ranking, right, make and I will 767 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: both do our power rankings. And we'll let Simon be 768 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: the judge here. 769 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: But he's slipping his hand. 770 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: He is to be now, we're just now. 771 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 3: But I'm not just trying to don't just appeal to 772 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: the judge. 773 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 4: It's okay to peal to the judge. 774 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: Or maybe maybe or maybe he's trying to throw you off. 775 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: And we already talked about this. 776 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: You just off the same, all right? All right? What 777 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: do we have left? All right? 778 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 5: Last one is the Neapolitan. 779 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: Neapolitan alright, let's do it. 780 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 4: This one. 781 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 5: The only difference between the rest of them has fresh 782 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 5: mozzarella pearls on it. So most Neapolitan pizzas just fresh 783 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 5: mozzarella is the only cheese. And then basil tomato. It's 784 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 5: very classic style pizza. 785 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: So okay, And this looks like the crust is a 786 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: little bit thicker than the New York, so it's kind 787 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: of like an incremental New Haven is like the smallest, 788 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: then the New York and then the Neapolitan there and 789 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: then obviously the deep dish of the Detroit. Are different styles, 790 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 2: but just from a thickness standpoint. 791 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: Ye yeah, cross, all right, all right, I like the pearls. 792 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: Like some people in the office are like, oh, the 793 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: pizza is amazing, but I can't have pizza. 794 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: Every day like that is why not a bad move? 795 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: You're not one of those, not one of those people. 796 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: And we have the flatbreads. We do a lot of 797 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: different things. That's the thing you should tell listeners too. 798 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: It's not just the pizza of It's not just for pizza. 799 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, califlower cross pizzas obviously, but I mean in the past, 800 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 5: we've done like rocks of lamb through the pizza oven. 801 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 5: We've we have a plan coming up hopefully to do 802 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 5: some uh some half lobsters running through the pizza oven 803 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 5: with some garlic butter on top, all that good stuff. 804 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 5: So salmon, Yeah, we do a lot of different stuff 805 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 5: in there. We do, yeah, cedar, plank salmon. So got 806 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 5: that nice smoke in there. 807 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 3: It's really nice. Mm hmm. 808 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to send me an email on that 809 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: lobster when that's coming, so I don't miss that. 810 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. All right, this is great. 811 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: This is really good. All right, I need to write 812 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: down my list here. 813 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: Very good, No, Chef Tyler, you've outdone yourself. Well let's 814 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: just start there. These are all amazing. Okay, I have mine, Garrett, 815 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: you have your your list. 816 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 3: Yes, I do have power ranking for New York Giants. 817 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: We do rock paper cis. 818 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: Well this, No, we don't rock paper scisors. Just so 819 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: you guys. We often do drafts on and I'm on 820 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: a cold streak when it comes to the drafts on Lamb. 821 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: She's beating me on like five straight. But it all 822 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: comes down to that loose rock paper scissors. So this 823 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: is a bit more of an even playing field because 824 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: we are dealing with the same stuff. We just have 825 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: to rank them. So here's my rankings. I will go 826 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: worst to best worst. 827 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: I want I want the big reveal. You're right, you're right, 828 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: you're right. 829 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, New Haven, Oh, Chicago, New York. Second 830 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 2: was Detroit, and number one was Neapolitan. 831 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 3: Wow, I really liked I really liked. 832 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 2: The mozarella pearls. I really like the mozrella pearls on 833 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: the uh Neapolitan, And it's a similar I like the 834 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 2: there's like the crust is a little a little bit 835 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: more cheer than the New Haven, which the crust on 836 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 2: the New Haven was just a little bit more like. Uh, yeah, 837 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 2: then I prefer And so I like the Neapolitan and 838 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: the Detroit. I love it's unique. Like I don't think 839 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: I could go Detroit like as as the every day 840 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: as as my everyday driver there, but I think that, 841 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: like as a nice change up, Detroit was excellent. 842 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: Okay, are we saying this is every day like if 843 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: we're picking y day? Okay, all right, make sure I 844 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: have the rules right, all right, I'm going last Chicago, Okay, 845 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: Then I'm going. 846 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 3: Nepolitan. Oh okay, so big gap, big gap there, major shakeup. 847 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Then I'm going Are you deciding on the fly here? 848 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: Do you know? I feel like that I'm going New York. Okay, 849 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: then I'm going New York. I'm going New Haven. Number 850 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: two actually no flip, New Haven, then New York top. 851 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 3: We're going Detroit. 852 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 2: So we both we I mean we're obviously we were 853 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: both high in Detroit. Yeah, Simon, not number one. 854 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't like it. 855 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 4: Detroit is the bottom. 856 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: To the bottom too. 857 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 2: Much right there. 858 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 3: I might need another just to make sure I have 859 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 3: it right. 860 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 4: The pizza has to be where you can hold in 861 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 4: your hand, nothing comes off, you can walk with it. 862 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 3: So you're going New York. He's going New Haven? 863 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 5: All right? 864 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 3: All right, right, Simon, Simon, give us yours, give us yours. 865 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go from I'm gonna go 866 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 4: from work. So I'm gonna go Neapolitan, Yes, New Haven two. 867 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: New York. 868 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: Chicago Style four and then Detroit five. 869 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 3: Wow, Simon, formerly, my guy, gal, you know what. 870 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 4: It just the Neapolitan I thought was just the right temperature, right. 871 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 4: I thought the texture was really good. You know. It 872 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 4: still had the traditional crust that I think we all 873 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 4: are accustomed to. Uh, but still you can hold in 874 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 4: your hand. Yeah, still move around. 875 00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not. 876 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 2: And the again the mozzarella, like the fresh monzrella on there, 877 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: really kind of sets it over the edge. 878 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 4: I thought it was great, and I thought new Haven 879 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 4: could be potentially up there because the no crust sometimes 880 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 4: tempts me. 881 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 3: All right, but everybody, what was your number? 882 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: You don't have to give us a full five, but 883 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 2: what's your number one? 884 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 5: My top two are definitely New Haven and Detroit. Detroit's 885 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 5: probably number one. New Haven, like right out of the oven, 886 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 5: that's probably the best. 887 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 3: The most crust in the least crust for you are 888 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 3: the top two. That's interesting. 889 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 5: I like the crunch factor though, the crunch factor you 890 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 5: get on both, you know, so like the outside of 891 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 5: the Detroit you get a lot of good crunch on 892 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 5: even though it's a little bratdy. 893 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know. 894 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 5: Right out of the oven new Haven style is probably 895 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 5: my favorite kind of pizza. But it's got to be 896 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 5: right out of the oven. I mean, it crunches, it's fantastic. 897 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 2: So well, I'm glad that you're with us on the 898 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 2: Detroit Stalles Simon is the he's the objector on the 899 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: Detroit style, but I'm glad that us were aligned in that. 900 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: Chef Tyler, so I like that all right? 901 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 3: With all these left hovers, you know, I. 902 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 2: Know, the Downing Family's got Denner tonight. That's awesome. Hey, guys, 903 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 2: really appreciate it. This is fun. Thank you so much 904 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: for doing this, and you guys do great work in 905 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 2: the in the cafeteria and signing. You and your team 906 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 2: are awesome across the board. So thank you so much 907 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 2: for coming by, Thanks for having us, Thanks you guys. 908 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: Thank you well big thanks to Simon and Chef Tyler 909 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: for joining us and for bringing pizza. I feel like 910 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: I should win this by default because. 911 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: I am half Italian, so you get automatically. 912 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 3: Automatically. 913 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: My mother is full blooded Italian Marsilly, the named Marsilly. 914 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: There's no more Italian name Marsilly, So I feel like 915 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm a pizza. 916 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: Expert, okay, just by nature. 917 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 2: Well, Simon agree with me on my ranking, so we're 918 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: gonna stick with that. But we both did have Detroit style, 919 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: which is like you're talking up like the Italian side 920 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 2: of things. That's like the least authentic Italian pizza of 921 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: all of them. 922 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: But he said it's kind of like a Fakasha crust 923 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: for Kasha. 924 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 3: That's fair, very Italian. 925 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 2: So really appreciate them for coming by again. You can 926 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 2: email us with the lounge at Ravens NFL dot net. 927 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 2: Whose power rankings do you like more let us know 928 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 2: what you think, and also your favorite pizza. Thank you 929 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: so much for listening. We'll be back with you again 930 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: later this week. 931 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 5: MHM.