Speaker 1: Real celebrity real joined the Breakfast more than everybody is
Speaker 1: DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Sharloman, the guy. We are the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club special guests in the building, very highly requested. Yeah,
Speaker 1: interview for a long time. Yeah, I'm mister Dami dash.
Speaker 1: What's going on? He brought some people. What your damn
Speaker 1: to do? Your people's Um? I got first gob he
Speaker 1: wants to be noticed. I heard the dog under there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I got my old g daniel U to my
Speaker 1: left and to my right, I got murder Mooke. It
Speaker 1: was the murder Mook affiliation. I know he's in the movie,
Speaker 1: but it's what y'all doing things. The overall affiliation is
Speaker 1: the Harlem thing Smoked Dizzer, who's not here. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. Uh, you know he was hanging out of
Speaker 1: d D one seventy two. That's the gallery. I hadn't
Speaker 1: try back a couple of years back, and I knew
Speaker 1: him before he kind of hit it big or whatever.
Speaker 1: We got to this much success and um when reconnected. Uh,
Speaker 1: he was always trying to bring murder Mook around because
Speaker 1: you know he's from Harleman. I feel like I'm really
Speaker 1: I don't like hanging out with dudes too much that
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, And I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: not really trying to know anybody named murder with the
Speaker 1: first named Murder, you know what I'm saying. But we
Speaker 1: ended up one night at that fish market with asap Rocky,
Speaker 1: and he was there and he came through with the car.
Speaker 1: He got this car that has a lot of personality,
Speaker 1: and he showed me. We went back to Asap Rocky's
Speaker 1: house and he showed me the movie He's showing everybody
Speaker 1: rather the television show Fused, and you know, I'm about
Speaker 1: battle rapping. That's where I'm from, and someone about him
Speaker 1: was kind of familiar to me, Paul. So he started
Speaker 1: to come around the gallery and making music, and I
Speaker 1: started doing the movies and there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: that he spoke about, and him and his other friends,
Speaker 1: like black Faced, The way they spoken, the things they
Speaker 1: spoke about reminded me of my og Daniel, you know,
Speaker 1: And I hadn't seen Daniel. I'm telling you how I
Speaker 1: met him, but now I'm going to how I met Daniel.
Speaker 1: So then they started to come around make music and
Speaker 1: we were doing lot sides and there was something that
Speaker 1: they said that was very distinctive. So I started to
Speaker 1: talk about what I used to do with my old homeboys,
Speaker 1: and one of my old geez was Daniel, and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I don't know Daniel, and they were
Speaker 1: like black faced pulling, was like I think he's talking
Speaker 1: about Nico. His name d he might be Daniel, And
Speaker 1: they showed me the picture and it was my oldg
Speaker 1: you know. It was the person that you know, kind
Speaker 1: of guided me, like a lot of people guided me
Speaker 1: when I was younger and in the street. And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people we have in common that became
Speaker 1: legends in the street, whether it's for wrong or right reasons.
Speaker 1: But in those moments, we didn't know the things we
Speaker 1: were doing with legendary. And he kind of said and
Speaker 1: did things that taught me how to survive in those
Speaker 1: extreme environments. And then also I was able to apply
Speaker 1: it now and like when things were questioned, like my honor,
Speaker 1: I would always go back to the guys that raised
Speaker 1: me be all right with what I'm doing. He said, question,
Speaker 1: what do you mean question your honor? Like if let's
Speaker 1: say someone offered me a bag of money to do
Speaker 1: something that I traditionally wouldn't do. But it'd be like,
Speaker 1: I need to do it for more money. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: hall m, dude, wouldn't do that. My home boys would
Speaker 1: laugh at me. What would Daniel say? You know that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, because I know he was somewhere, you know,
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it for twenty five years. But then
Speaker 1: he came around. It was the same Daniel. You know,
Speaker 1: he was still up, still had a point of view,
Speaker 1: and I was shooting a scene and he was giving
Speaker 1: advice to the person shooting a scene. He was so animated.
Speaker 1: Your governor stopped that man. That's just dog he's talking
Speaker 1: to By the way, she's crying, like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: He wants to be with his mother up and go
Speaker 1: over there, go be with Rock Keller. He's bugging you
Speaker 1: give it anyway, so him and I anyway. So I
Speaker 1: put him in the movie. I was like, dude the
Speaker 1: movie and he was so good at it. Like literally,
Speaker 1: when he did his scenes, people quit on the set
Speaker 1: because they were so scared because he's so authentic and
Speaker 1: we were able to pull from our actual experiences of
Speaker 1: the people around us and the aggression of the people
Speaker 1: around us. But still have because we had the intelligence
Speaker 1: not to do what everyone was doing. Like you got
Speaker 1: a choice in the street, you could survive. But usually
Speaker 1: there's a paper bag of money that makes you do
Speaker 1: something that's against that articode. And that's the thing to
Speaker 1: get you jamped up about yourself. Yeah, and the things
Speaker 1: he taught me was don't ever compromise, you know. And
Speaker 1: it's not just him. He walks around with the og
Speaker 1: and that's what Hallom dudes do. Now, let me ask you.
Speaker 1: You talk about Hallom a lot, you know from you're
Speaker 1: just talking or from a long time. How did you
Speaker 1: meet up with jay Z who was from Brooklyn? Because
Speaker 1: like you guys type, you're really still curious about the James. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you don't know the story's curious. No, we want you
Speaker 1: to tell us. Let me ask you a question. No,
Speaker 1: this is not you're not asking. You're asking you. People
Speaker 1: want to know that. Can I ask your questions? Have
Speaker 1: you never? Have you never asked this question from me
Speaker 1: before about but I was on a smaller scale. It
Speaker 1: wasn't as big as the ask your question? Do you
Speaker 1: think everybody knows that question? Now? I don't think everybody
Speaker 1: knows that answer. Do you know the answer yeah, No,
Speaker 1: you tell us the as to tell us to answer
Speaker 1: how you're met. No, it's it's different because we're on
Speaker 1: a different scale. Queens don't get along. Ask question. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's be many, right. If somebody asked you the same
Speaker 1: question twenty five times, maybe twenty five hundred times, do
Speaker 1: you still want to talk about the same thing? Yes
Speaker 1: and no. No. So that's just me being human. Understand.
Speaker 1: So I don't care what platform. I'm sick of talking
Speaker 1: about it. Let's talk about something else. It's a different platform,
Speaker 1: I know, but I want to talk about something else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that question, I just told you the next question.
Speaker 1: No more jay Z questions. I answered them more. But
Speaker 1: I want to talk about you. You say your old gs.
Speaker 1: You talk about your counsel, like I always wondered who
Speaker 1: was your counsel? Like when you would scream one other
Speaker 1: executives back in the day, Like, were those the guys
Speaker 1: you would go to and say, YO, was not wrong
Speaker 1: for that. I would never screaming on other executives. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they weren't in my life at the time. But I
Speaker 1: have my crew and I had the people. See. The
Speaker 1: reason why I was screaming is because it would be
Speaker 1: for me not putting my hands on them. See the
Speaker 1: way I was taught, when you putting up money and
Speaker 1: someone doesn't do what you say or they owe you money,
Speaker 1: if you don't put your hands on them, then you
Speaker 1: can't be outside anymore. So you have to make examples
Speaker 1: out of people. So the yelling and the snapping and
Speaker 1: laughing at people was I was taught to hurt people,
Speaker 1: but instead I was also taught a smarter way to
Speaker 1: get it people. And that's one of the things that
Speaker 1: Daniel taught me. So like it will be the people
Speaker 1: that be around and they would be straight, real tough,
Speaker 1: but I could just snap one them. We would snap
Speaker 1: all day and instead of me having to kill these
Speaker 1: with guns, I killed him with jokes. And Daniel's a
Speaker 1: funny dude, you know, But when it came down to it,
Speaker 1: my knuckle game is proper. You know, all my eyes
Speaker 1: I'm not around you know, I'm gonna go out all
Speaker 1: out for what I believe in. But I'd rather laugh
Speaker 1: at you, didn't shoot you. I'd rather make a a
Speaker 1: movie if I'd rather talk to you disrespectfully, didn't have
Speaker 1: to punch you in your mouth for disrespecting me. That's
Speaker 1: what I was taught. So that's that's why I was
Speaker 1: able to maneuver. So instead of going to get my gun,
Speaker 1: I was able to use my logic. And it's like
Speaker 1: math is everything is simple? Math. You asked me a
Speaker 1: question twenty five times just because you want to everyone
Speaker 1: else to know. I don't care. I'm sick of answering
Speaker 1: that question. Period. So I want to talk about another
Speaker 1: man all day. I want to talk about other things,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Period, don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about other men. It bugs me out. Why are men
Speaker 1: so curious about other men? That makes no sense. I'm
Speaker 1: never worried about other men that much. Now let me
Speaker 1: ask you, as a woman, why are men so worried
Speaker 1: about other men and how much money they got and
Speaker 1: all this other man stuff? Why? Well, I think part
Speaker 1: of it is social media. You know what happens. I
Speaker 1: gotta do it. We put up a picture like you
Speaker 1: was here, and a bunch of people would be like,
Speaker 1: ask them this, ask him this and some money thing.
Speaker 1: It is true that people ask the same questions because
Speaker 1: some people might not have heard the answer. Everybody heard
Speaker 1: this answer. Now, I won't say that wybody knows my
Speaker 1: history with Jakey. I already said, listen, you say something.
Speaker 1: Y'all saw my other interview. I already told you the
Speaker 1: reasons why I don't want to talk about that man.
Speaker 1: You got one of them hass on right now. I
Speaker 1: told you why, because look at the guys right here.
Speaker 1: I told you why, get off of that man, Paul.
Speaker 1: You asked that man. Y'all never asked that man no questions?
Speaker 1: What do you answer? Did I still want to talk
Speaker 1: about those days that it was fifteen years ago? That's
Speaker 1: still how y'all make money? No? I agree with Jason.
Speaker 1: Why listen if y'all still making money off for old substance,
Speaker 1: how are you going to grow? I agree with that,
Speaker 1: but we're still talking about Jay. I haven't even seen
Speaker 1: Jake but two times in fifteen years, which is my thing, though,
Speaker 1: that you did add something new to the conversation when
Speaker 1: you said you brought up the stuff about Desert Ray.
Speaker 1: I didn't bring up nothing. I don't say a name,
Speaker 1: And I said, look, you're still bringing it up. You
Speaker 1: got the hat on. I told you I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about it, so I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about it no more. You understand se I don't understand
Speaker 1: what was out there. People go to jail, people get
Speaker 1: killed for this kind of stuff. I don't play these
Speaker 1: these ghetto games. But do this bubble, I don't. I
Speaker 1: told you once you as a certain friends. We don't
Speaker 1: even talk about them no more where I'm from. So
Speaker 1: if you think I'm gonna get on the camera, keep
Speaker 1: talking about this thing. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 1: over there. You got the hat on, you asked them,
Speaker 1: you calling out names, you call them, don't do really
Speaker 1: you did talk about you know, I would say you
Speaker 1: were the bad guy at one time. That was your job.
Speaker 1: Not the reason I'm asking. I wasn't a bad guy.
Speaker 1: I was a good guy. I was a bad guy
Speaker 1: to the bad people. Right, I'm the good guy to
Speaker 1: the good guysers. I'm always gonna be a bad guy
Speaker 1: to somebody. Listen. Listen, guy, if I let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question, if I beat the shout of you,
Speaker 1: and you, dude, you did something bad, but in your mind,
Speaker 1: I you up and my bad guy. If I did
Speaker 1: something bad, No to that person, I got his ass whipped.
Speaker 1: I am a bad guy to the person I got
Speaker 1: his asked. But that's what I'm saying. So so hold on,
Speaker 1: so I'm looking. Look, I'm walking around whipping ass. Somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna say I'm a bad guy. Right, absolutely pause? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I didn't say who's you know anyway?
Speaker 1: So I'm saying I'm gonna be a bad guy. That's
Speaker 1: all good guy Like Batman. They said he was a
Speaker 1: bad guy, but he was a superhero everything that fights.
Speaker 1: They said Jesus was a bad guy, right or wrong? Like,
Speaker 1: what do you get? Right's a joke, I'll be saying,
Speaker 1: but I made it up. Right? Where do you get
Speaker 1: when you have a dinner with a bunch of people
Speaker 1: that you're guiding and taking care of what hung up
Speaker 1: on a cross? Because that's what they did to Jesus.
Speaker 1: So you've seen men violate God, so all men gonna
Speaker 1: violate everybody. Here's a question I have. How come there
Speaker 1: was no women at the last supper? I'm asking, I
Speaker 1: don't know why you never thought about that? No, that's
Speaker 1: the questions. I'll be one. Maybe they was in the
Speaker 1: kitchen cooking because I don't know what was going on.
Speaker 1: Bottom waned See that's why he got violated. You ain't
Speaker 1: got no women around watching your back. You're getting violated. Period.
Speaker 1: The Bible is. The Bible is three thousand pages about
Speaker 1: stories about men violating God. So that's just me saying
Speaker 1: men are always gonna violate other men. Pause. So I
Speaker 1: try to keep my circle tight and keep more women
Speaker 1: around me. I don't like dudes that much. They'd be
Speaker 1: worried about the room. There's also a lot of stories
Speaker 1: in the Bible about don't matter. I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: Last Supper. If I'm Jesus and I'm giving jewels and
Speaker 1: all that, I'm have some girls around, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be some Because women have testosterone, see estrogenes.
Speaker 1: Men should always want to be number one. A man
Speaker 1: should always want to be in he has nuts. His
Speaker 1: job is to go make women pregnant and to go
Speaker 1: take care of his women, to go eat, to be
Speaker 1: the champion. So he's supposed to be number one, like me,
Speaker 1: us three sitting here, no matter what he knows, he
Speaker 1: could have this slap. He knows he can have it. Pause.
Speaker 1: In Harlem, we always think we supposed were supposed to
Speaker 1: think that, because that's what real men think, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's what testosterone breed. That's why you can't hire
Speaker 1: a bunch of men, they're gonna resent you. You know
Speaker 1: what you get when you give a bunch of men stuff.
Speaker 1: They resent you for that. They want to kill you
Speaker 1: because they want to be the boss. If a man
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be the boss, then he's not a
Speaker 1: real man. Every real man wants to be a boss.
Speaker 1: Who do the girls like the boss? So everyone that
Speaker 1: that has girlfriends, they're gonna keep their girls away from
Speaker 1: the boss because he's the most appealing. Right is that
Speaker 1: one of the reasons you've had a lot of problems
Speaker 1: with I don't know why I've always been the boss.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Those are not problems for me. Women
Speaker 1: don't want to be around. That's better for me. I've
Speaker 1: run into their women other places. It's all right, you know,
Speaker 1: Like when a woman talks bad When a man talks
Speaker 1: bad about another dude in front of a woman, that's
Speaker 1: because he's afraid that the woman likes the other dude.
Speaker 1: So the more men or women or men talk about
Speaker 1: me today women, the more than women come to me.
Speaker 1: I love it so to me, that's the good guy.
Speaker 1: It's all about perspective. I'm a good guy. Mama, Have
Speaker 1: I ever been the bad guy at home. No, no,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I've never been the bad guy you. No, No,
Speaker 1: I've never. I'm always you know, like if you at war,
Speaker 1: you're the bad guy the people you're fighting. So whoever
Speaker 1: looks at me as a bad guy, they're on the
Speaker 1: wrong and they're on the wrong team. You. If you're
Speaker 1: not honorable, if you don't do play things fair, yeah,
Speaker 1: you better watch the out because I'm protecting love. You
Speaker 1: see what I do when I got the rock, pauls.
Speaker 1: I give it the platform to my friends and I
Speaker 1: always have. While I haven't been around, a lot of
Speaker 1: people got fat, but all my friends are starving. Or
Speaker 1: the people that are left out there, everyone's starving. A
Speaker 1: couple of people are fat. We're taking it back so
Speaker 1: everybody could eat, movies, radio, books, everything, fashion, everything, and
Speaker 1: when we have it, no one's gonna have a boss.
Speaker 1: Everyone's going to be a boss. Period. Are there times
Speaker 1: in business you feel like you haven't been honorable and fair? Never? Never,
Speaker 1: I've never not been honorable in business, y'all keep telling
Speaker 1: me every time I hear me not being honorable in
Speaker 1: business is from a radio show when men talk about
Speaker 1: men it's never been from that man telling me in
Speaker 1: my face. It's not a claim, it's never been social media.
Speaker 1: How can a man say social media with a straight face.
Speaker 1: Men don't listen to social media. No, then don't listen
Speaker 1: to social media. A real man doesn't listen to a
Speaker 1: rumor and Twitter. Let me ask you a question. What
Speaker 1: about real calm, real com. We ask real calm, real calm.
Speaker 1: Does a real man listen to what another man says
Speaker 1: about another man? Yes? Or no? I mean you listen
Speaker 1: to something, you to take it the right thing, so
Speaker 1: you have no questions to ask me. I don't give
Speaker 1: a but this is this is the radio business. I
Speaker 1: don't give a about the radio business. I don't give
Speaker 1: a want to box something doesn't want to do that
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. But what I'm saying over
Speaker 1: money that people know it don't be over no money
Speaker 1: because if it was over money, with how much money?
Speaker 1: What's money to you? That's all relative to me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's all relative, but it's not hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars money. It's money not to me. But you can't
Speaker 1: do not to me. It is money, it's not to me,
Speaker 1: it's relative. I can't one hundred thousand dollars. My bills
Speaker 1: are way more than a hundred thousand dollars. I forget
Speaker 1: all that money talking. I'm not what you I'm not
Speaker 1: asking you a question. I'm trying to prove a point
Speaker 1: here so you can have a clarity of what you're
Speaker 1: should be worried about, sayative based on who you are,
Speaker 1: what money is, because I'm two thousand dollars Now, it's
Speaker 1: not what I asked you. I asked you it's a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand's not to me, it's relative. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Would you disrespect me for a
Speaker 1: hundred dollars one hundred thousand dollars? No, it's not worth disrespected.
Speaker 1: It's not worth going to take your friend to court.
Speaker 1: It's not worth going to a radio station and talking
Speaker 1: about business. What's worth that kind of what's worth a
Speaker 1: real man talking about his business on the radio between
Speaker 1: another man? What's worth that? Let me ask you from
Speaker 1: the radio, how much money? None? I don't need the
Speaker 1: money exactly, it's not exactly. So when a man comes
Speaker 1: on the radio and talks about money and they don't
Speaker 1: talk to about me, I know that's not the issue.
Speaker 1: Because if it was really about money, he would call me.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have called you. He know I'm not listening
Speaker 1: to you. I'm gonna listening to you. Ask me a
Speaker 1: questions about another man of money, A real man don't
Speaker 1: answer those questions. A real man don't ask them. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about you. Do you feel like you get your
Speaker 1: props as a mogo? Care take my props about props?
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, I do get my props that I'm
Speaker 1: not a mogo. I'm a tycoon and I sell oil.
Speaker 1: Don't disrespect me and say I do everything everybody else does,
Speaker 1: and I put up my own money. All these so
Speaker 1: called morgus you're talking about, you name one of them
Speaker 1: that put their own dough up. Boss, You're only the
Speaker 1: boss if you put up your own money. If you
Speaker 1: don't put up your own money, I don't care how
Speaker 1: much somebody gives you. You're nothing but the supervisor. It's
Speaker 1: not yours. So how much money can you get paid
Speaker 1: to not? There's no money in this world for someone
Speaker 1: to pay me. So they could call me, so I
Speaker 1: could call them a boss. That's like calling somebody daddy.
Speaker 1: That's how could a man call another man or that's
Speaker 1: my boss. We don't do that. I mean everybody at
Speaker 1: some points. No, not in Harlem. Oh okay, but like
Speaker 1: somebody's boss. No, I'm not somebody's boss. I'm when I
Speaker 1: was in the street, some of them wasn't your boss.
Speaker 1: They gave you an opportunity. Okay, they gave you some work.
Speaker 1: You go make it and then you bring it back.
Speaker 1: You could go buy your own work. You do whatever
Speaker 1: you want. It's called consignment. So why this can't be
Speaker 1: all work? This corporate America? We could be. You don't
Speaker 1: own it. I'm telling you question question. Let me ask
Speaker 1: your questions. Can you give it to your son? Tell
Speaker 1: you about whatever company? I absolutely positively can. How because
Speaker 1: I own shares of this company board. Yes. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is, can your son is this yours? To give
Speaker 1: the whole company to company? Exactly? It's not mine. But
Speaker 1: stopped listen, listen, that's not my question. If your son
Speaker 1: needs a job here, can you give it to him? No? No.
Speaker 1: If your son needs to get some money out the
Speaker 1: bank from here, some cash flow, can you get it? No?
Speaker 1: All right, you don't own this, but I can. It's
Speaker 1: not yours. I'm not gonna fight for something I don't own.
Speaker 1: Men don't do that. I don't fight for others. I
Speaker 1: fight for me. I'm not a doula. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: build somebody else's company and then pick chairs for my son.
Speaker 1: But listen what I'm saying. What about stop? Don't say
Speaker 1: you're making my business and you don't know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. I take no money from death. Dam what
Speaker 1: you're talking to me? Take? I mean they cut you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't cut me a check. We had a formula
Speaker 1: based on performance, and they calculated and we got paid,
Speaker 1: and they don't stop. That's not us, that's what we know. No.
Speaker 1: We listen, Before we we had Rockefeller, we put up
Speaker 1: my own money for Rockefeller, right, Okay, then we sold
Speaker 1: half of it. We became partners. So that means no
Speaker 1: one gave us anything. We were fifty fifty partners. We
Speaker 1: built something and sold it. That doesn't mean you work
Speaker 1: for someone. See they let you believe that. So then
Speaker 1: what happened was based on a formula. One of the
Speaker 1: formula is it was profit times a certain numbers. So
Speaker 1: if you make this much profit time seven, that's how
Speaker 1: much your number is. Okay, based on that formula, they
Speaker 1: bought the rest. That's it. That's not nobody giving me money.
Speaker 1: I didn't never worked for them. I put I put
Speaker 1: up way more money than deaf Jam put up me.
Speaker 1: Biggs and Jay put way more money up into death Jam.
Speaker 1: I mean rather than too Rockefeller than deef Jam. What
Speaker 1: they did was collect our money. But you mean, why
Speaker 1: do you think deaf Jam they first of all, when
Speaker 1: we were with deaf Jam, they were bought by Universal.
Speaker 1: How you gonna call it deaths how you are there
Speaker 1: or someone that's bought by someone could be someone's boss.
Speaker 1: That's my point. You have to understand what you're doing
Speaker 1: in business because you gotta do it's best for your kids.
Speaker 1: Which best for your kids is to put your money
Speaker 1: into something distress, go through all of it. So when
Speaker 1: your child becomes a man, he doesn't have to work
Speaker 1: for nobody who could just pass it to him. Now
Speaker 1: you talk about and so you're gonna work twenty years
Speaker 1: in the business or fifteen years in the business every
Speaker 1: day over and over again, and your son can't work
Speaker 1: here whenever he feels like it. You're clownings not saying
Speaker 1: if you all wait a second because time' that's stupid.
Speaker 1: You should be because I like to check wait, timet,
Speaker 1: time out, time you're ying. I don't before you lose
Speaker 1: your control. Listen to him because why don't you listen
Speaker 1: to work? It for free? Who could work? Would you
Speaker 1: ever enjoy being a slave? I'm not. It's not a slave.
Speaker 1: This is what I enjoyed, slavery. Do you have to
Speaker 1: come and work today? Do you have a choice? You
Speaker 1: have to ask somebody when you have to? Yes, you do,
Speaker 1: I don't. Or you're fired? Can somebody tell you fire?
Speaker 1: Can somebody tell you fire? Can another man say you fired? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: No one can tell me that, And that's what that's priceless.
Speaker 1: But I'm here because I don't care. You enjoy having
Speaker 1: a man? Let me ask you a question. So you're
Speaker 1: being selfish? Do you think your son enjoys you calling
Speaker 1: somebody else a boss? Could you think your son would
Speaker 1: rather wake up with you and you could pick him
Speaker 1: up from school instead of having to do a nine
Speaker 1: to five? Don't you think? Yeah? But don't you have
Speaker 1: to wake up it's four in the morning. Don't you
Speaker 1: think your son would love if his name was up there,
Speaker 1: Dash or whatever your last name is instead of somebody else's.
Speaker 1: My pride is that my children. Look what I'm doing
Speaker 1: right now. Look at my son. I taught my son
Speaker 1: never to have a boss. She's twenty three. He owns
Speaker 1: a restaurant, he has cookies, he has equity. He bust
Speaker 1: his ass so he could pass it on to his son.
Speaker 1: If that's not what you hustlers for, you're selfish. You
Speaker 1: keep saying, I I'm worried about my kids. You're worried
Speaker 1: about you. Kids are good? How they good? Your kids
Speaker 1: will jail boardroom and the kid they that's supposed to work.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when they men, you're supposed to pass him.
Speaker 1: You're working for another man they worry about. To me,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in death. Jaff boardroom is death. Backstage,
Speaker 1: everybody cool out for a second day. I questions, what's
Speaker 1: wrong with taking the money from here and investing it
Speaker 1: into your other stuff? That we are nothing nothing? Everybody
Speaker 1: need a cookie, cool out for a second. I'm not mad.
Speaker 1: The mentality of this is frustrating because you're in the
Speaker 1: radio and this message is crazy. To me. You're saying,
Speaker 1: because you enjoy music or being a DJ, you enjoy
Speaker 1: having a boss. If you enjoy being a DJ. Just
Speaker 1: why don't you own your own radio station and then
Speaker 1: DJ for your own radio station so your son can
Speaker 1: just get on anytime he wants. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But there's no steps to it because I do it.
Speaker 1: So you enjoy the safety and the security of a
Speaker 1: job every day, But there's no pride in that. To me,
Speaker 1: my son, he takes pride and my kids take pride
Speaker 1: in the fact that I have Dash motors. And because
Speaker 1: I have that, my son said, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: ever have a boss because mentality is different. It's just
Speaker 1: about change your mentality. Then let me ask the question.
Speaker 1: There's millions of people out there that don't have that
Speaker 1: opportunity and boss every day. So you're basically saying because
Speaker 1: they have a boss, there's no pride in it. I
Speaker 1: think because people on the radio tell people it's okay
Speaker 1: to have a boss, they don't understand that they can
Speaker 1: have more. And because of the direct to consumer relationship
Speaker 1: the Internet, there's no excuse. So when I make a movie,
Speaker 1: like Lo saidas I don't have to ask if I
Speaker 1: could put Daniel in the movie. I just do it.
Speaker 1: I had to ask if I could put the way home.
Speaker 1: I had to ask if I could put camera on.
Speaker 1: I don't have to ask no more. You understand there's
Speaker 1: pride in that. It's just a pride. You should have
Speaker 1: an ownership platform. How do you get the platform by
Speaker 1: putting your own money up and investing in yourself. That's it.
Speaker 1: You flip and getting a good woman and stop trusting dudes,
Speaker 1: and stop worrying about other people's pockets and what other
Speaker 1: people have and what other people can do for you.
Speaker 1: And nine to fives aren't good because you look you're
Speaker 1: hustling forth weekend. But when you can do something that's
Speaker 1: for yourself and your family, it never feels like work.
Speaker 1: I hustle from my I hustle felt my last name.
Speaker 1: I don't hustle for my first the dash name. When
Speaker 1: listen again, when my grandfather died, he looked at me
Speaker 1: and he knew that Dash is always going to be there,
Speaker 1: at least for the next couple of generations, either to me,
Speaker 1: my son or or my son's son. It's a mentality.
Speaker 1: I want to have generations or just what if your
Speaker 1: kids aren't as strong as you? What if your kids
Speaker 1: kids aren't as strong as you? Then what the last
Speaker 1: reason why we set up the platform. Say they don't
Speaker 1: have to do any you have a boss, but you
Speaker 1: know a man say he has a boss and be proud.
Speaker 1: I want to say, but dash like you know, you
Speaker 1: say you should never worry about the man's pockets. But
Speaker 1: I vividly remember you clowning people for being broke. No, no,
Speaker 1: I never clowned someone for being broke. I'm clowning them
Speaker 1: for not spending money. You clown people for that. I know.
Speaker 1: I know you never heard me say. You know I'm
Speaker 1: talking about when you tell me a joke. You should
Speaker 1: heard what I said, you broke. I've been in the
Speaker 1: office one sneakers and they clothes and say, yo, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Rich people buy wax sneakers. I
Speaker 1: just cut Kevin Harden up because he wore ugs. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you. It's not about money. Office. You
Speaker 1: can't buy taste. No you can't, all right, So I
Speaker 1: shouldnap on people for having bad taste, not about money.
Speaker 1: So your your approach is different, your perspective. You see
Speaker 1: things for a different lens because you got the balls
Speaker 1: your tax because I used to pop tags. Because you
Speaker 1: know what happened was every time I went to the gym.
Speaker 1: You know, I have brought new clothes for me. I
Speaker 1: changing the gym, so every time I finished would be
Speaker 1: a polo tags. So I'd be like, look, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: popping tags. That's all. What's the problem. Why are you offended?
Speaker 1: I'm offending. I don't know why, sap. That's about we
Speaker 1: have We have a different taste level, we have different
Speaker 1: You like a boss, I don't. It's not mad about
Speaker 1: having the balls. It is it my matter, it is
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to you and me. It does because
Speaker 1: I have enough investment. You don't own nothing. You don't
Speaker 1: own nothing investment. You sound smart to somebody dumb. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got a boss? You have
Speaker 1: a boss? Are you this conversation? Don't tell me I
Speaker 1: sound stupid, because you tell me, I'll sound stupid. Okay,
Speaker 1: did I say it was stupid? If I did, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: But did I say you sound stupid? Yes? Sorry about that?
Speaker 1: What you say? All I said? Well, I wanted to say,
Speaker 1: was that? Um? Since because I've heard somebody mentioned social
Speaker 1: media or something like that, but since the emergency thinking
Speaker 1: like a lot of the direct to consumer platforms like
Speaker 1: the Instagrams and the Twitter. We set up the middle
Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of entrepreneurial people out
Speaker 1: there and a lot of businesses being you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, started from from the ground level. We're seeing
Speaker 1: more and more people, you know, making money off Instagram,
Speaker 1: off of that thing. Uh, you don't have to sell
Speaker 1: gossip anymore. You can do different things because you could.
Speaker 1: You have gotten to that point. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about your question? How do you feel about the fact
Speaker 1: could yourself gossip? For? Like you said, gossip, You're a man,
Speaker 1: How do you and so gossip that's for women. We
Speaker 1: don't talk about talking about what other people say. Every day.
Speaker 1: You're talking about what you heard. That's got that's women
Speaker 1: do that, man, that's what women do. I don't listen
Speaker 1: to your show. I don't want to hear about gossip
Speaker 1: to you. I'd be sleeping. I'm a boss. Just wake
Speaker 1: up when I one. I don't be up that earlier.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think there's many things that
Speaker 1: we talked about. You talking about what you told to
Speaker 1: talk about. You got a boss. Now we have to
Speaker 1: come up get told what to do. No, no, your
Speaker 1: boss tells you what they do. If I'm a boss.
Speaker 1: I tell whatever your boss that you're lying. You know what,
Speaker 1: what's your boss name? What's your boss name? Which one
Speaker 1: we got? Oh my god, you're proud to say which one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're on fifty different. It's not your market. You don't
Speaker 1: own it. Yeah, if they talk about them, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be here because people here. I get ready, No one
Speaker 1: never so serious. Your boys said that. Yeah, they call
Speaker 1: them out, they say, used to work them out. Call
Speaker 1: them out. What you like to work with you? I'm
Speaker 1: a market. You said it. You gossip, and that's chatty.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me not unless're gon call somebody out of
Speaker 1: the shoe. That's girl to me. I'm just tell I
Speaker 1: don't listen men to me, right, because I have testosterone.
Speaker 1: I got nuts. I don't listen to other men's gossip.
Speaker 1: And a man that gossips to me don't have nuts,
Speaker 1: so that that means he has a vaginas. Because I'm telling,
Speaker 1: tell me who said it? Then you see why I'm from.
Speaker 1: You don't do that if you want to deliver the message.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. It's you lying, lying,
Speaker 1: call out of name? Are you lying? Call out of name?
Speaker 1: Be a man and call out a name, or you
Speaker 1: gossip and or your chatty no chatty patty questions. Ask
Speaker 1: me a real question about Don't tell me what somebody
Speaker 1: else said. What's the movie man? The movie's lot side this,
Speaker 1: you can get it besides movie dot com. I directed it,
Speaker 1: Daniel's in it, smoke diss in it, murder mooks in it.
Speaker 1: It's very realistic. I'm very proud of what I've done.
Speaker 1: Let let's take it off me for a second. There
Speaker 1: is what there were one thing I want to bring
Speaker 1: up that disappointed me. So I do think we should
Speaker 1: all just stick together. Pause, even you an definitely whatever
Speaker 1: you need culturally, you know, a man, it's always a
Speaker 1: title to have a different perspective. Okay, me and Daniel,
Speaker 1: are you not arguing? We talk on the phone about
Speaker 1: perspectives loudly. Same't the tough to you on the phone.
Speaker 1: Then I'm talking to him though, Yeah, okay, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Just you know what I mean. This is a guy
Speaker 1: that deserves that kind of conversation because he's shown it
Speaker 1: by his action. But whenever you could get positive advice,
Speaker 1: you gotta take it, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it might be hard, you might not want to deal
Speaker 1: with the controversy conversation. But if it's beneficial and you
Speaker 1: can learn from it and it elevates you, why not
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Absolutely, I listen to everything.
Speaker 1: I might not like it, but you know, listen again,
Speaker 1: A man's allowed to have a perspective. That's why if
Speaker 1: I said you were stupid, That's why I said sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't have the right to disrespect you. And I
Speaker 1: didn't like the way it felt when you said being stupid,
Speaker 1: like you're not going you're not telling apologize and it's cool.
Speaker 1: But my point is what I was saying is we
Speaker 1: need to don't even have phones on that ve in.
Speaker 1: Um My problem was this, we have to stick together,
Speaker 1: and I'm sick of us as a culture not sticking together.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna call somebody out from my culture. I'm
Speaker 1: calling out Spike Lee. Um he's doing the same thing
Speaker 1: I'm doing, like the Vimeo And I had my uh
Speaker 1: local high yell Lebron Gaddison, you know he does all
Speaker 1: the technology. He went and reached out to him and
Speaker 1: talk to him and asked him like we should link
Speaker 1: up and just talk and he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: Dam's arrogant and he didn't want to offer no help.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to sit down with me, and I
Speaker 1: just didn't appreciate that. And I just want somebody to
Speaker 1: ask Spike Lee why he don't want to stick together?
Speaker 1: Like why he don't think I deserve a conversation? What
Speaker 1: when have I ever been arrogant with him? And how
Speaker 1: can you not be successful if you're not confident in
Speaker 1: what you do? But why we don't stick together? Like
Speaker 1: why is the first thing he would bring up is
Speaker 1: a fault of mine as opposed to you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like he's a great man. I would want
Speaker 1: him to say something good about So I'm only airing
Speaker 1: it out in public because I wanted to be spoken about.
Speaker 1: So it sometimes this treason is to call out other men.
Speaker 1: I'll talk about other being Well, it's a direct experience.
Speaker 1: I'm happening. And I called his name out. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna tell me somebody says something and not tell me
Speaker 1: who said it. You're chatty, patty, I'm just listening there,
Speaker 1: I'm listening. No, I have no experience with him at all,
Speaker 1: But what's up at the nickname? And he came by
Speaker 1: my gallery once? But I don't think he came by
Speaker 1: on purpose. And once he found out, he broke out.
Speaker 1: He didn't hang out, and and I'd just be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: it would look cooler if we came through together, you know,
Speaker 1: if he did something he taught me and I could
Speaker 1: say spikely, I would rather my honest experience. Would another
Speaker 1: black man be positive as opposed it would be like damn.
Speaker 1: I reached out to just talk like I thought maybe
Speaker 1: I could help him. He's still raising money, he's Kickstarter.
Speaker 1: I put up my own money. He has a boss,
Speaker 1: no disrespect and to the millions that happen. But my
Speaker 1: point is, I just want some abody to call out
Speaker 1: Spike Lee and ask him why that day he said
Speaker 1: that and why he didn't want to have a conversation
Speaker 1: with another black man that reached out for help because
Speaker 1: I thought maybe he could give me some guidance and
Speaker 1: we could link up. It just hurt my feelings, you know.
Speaker 1: You also, I wanted to bring up here all the cookies,
Speaker 1: and I want to wait till you're on the radio
Speaker 1: to give them to you. But here's some cookies. Trust me,
Speaker 1: you want the reason why you're wearing them angels when
Speaker 1: your neck the reason I'm wearing them for my kids
Speaker 1: represents my kids. But you mean this is the style? Okay,
Speaker 1: do you know who did that first? Jesus know me? Really? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's Kanye. See what happened was I get the angels
Speaker 1: made of my kids, and I I went to Jacob to jeweler,
Speaker 1: and then I was wearing the angel and then Kanye
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I want to get an angel. Then
Speaker 1: I gave him my angel and he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it back one day he didn't, but whatever,
Speaker 1: he forgets that one. I saw it, but then then
Speaker 1: everyone else you know what I mean. So it's funny
Speaker 1: how sometimes you don't even know that that got designed
Speaker 1: by me. I designed it's on your neck, will represent
Speaker 1: your kids. Is because I inspired that thought. I made
Speaker 1: him to represent my kids. And you're wearing two of
Speaker 1: those on your neck. And I can show you the
Speaker 1: original one, mate, and you can ask Kanye or Jacob,
Speaker 1: did Jela or any one of them about that story.
Speaker 1: It's good to see you working together again, too many.
Speaker 1: You can you trust him though, because he openly admitted
Speaker 1: he was disloyal. My thing about trusted You can't trust anybody,
Speaker 1: so you don't put enough into anybody where they're just
Speaker 1: loyalty can hurt you. So there's nothing he can do
Speaker 1: to hurt me. All he can do is be what
Speaker 1: he's been. He has a platform and a lot of
Speaker 1: people listen to what he say. And as he's had
Speaker 1: that platform, he's brought brought me into the equation by
Speaker 1: saying my name in the honorable way that's worth millions.
Speaker 1: And let me just say something hire. Let me just
Speaker 1: put this in real quick, by the way, just just
Speaker 1: for the record, if you look at my man Dame, right,
Speaker 1: because this is what I did the other day. I
Speaker 1: looked at Dame, and I looked at all the people
Speaker 1: I only have to call no names, looked at all
Speaker 1: the people that started from him, and then they moved on.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Don't that mean a lot?
Speaker 1: Like for somebody to be able to bring people like
Speaker 1: all the famous people that y'all talked about, the names
Speaker 1: that y'all talked about, and help get them to another
Speaker 1: level where they're able to help feed their family and
Speaker 1: feed other families. You know what I mean, That's what
Speaker 1: it's about. And it ain't about each other tearing each
Speaker 1: other down. No more got to look at the bigger picture,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that's all he telling y'all,
Speaker 1: Like when he's screaming at you, talking about you're working
Speaker 1: for somebody, hopefully that to make you say, you know
Speaker 1: what you're Charlott man, your pretty face like maybe between
Speaker 1: that daughter our own joint, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because that's what it's about. And you think everybody ain't
Speaker 1: gonna follow y'all, be like people listening to your mind.
Speaker 1: If I was your boss, h no, So can I
Speaker 1: hire you right now? If you got the right money? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How for me to be your boss? To do? What? What?
Speaker 1: What do you do right now? I do? Mom on
Speaker 1: this y'obson? What did your boss pay you to do?
Speaker 1: Be a radio personality? Talk on there for four hours
Speaker 1: a day? How much do you pay for that? Do
Speaker 1: you how much you gonna pay me? How much? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You get that you do it for you? Yeah? Because
Speaker 1: you please stop throwing out numbers. I don't need to
Speaker 1: be trying to get up. I know you said, I said,
Speaker 1: you said you don't care. But do you think some
Speaker 1: people don't give you the credit you deserve for your business?
Speaker 1: Because it looks like by perception, the people you will
Speaker 1: win up the Jays and Kanye's and they said you
Speaker 1: was down. I could say this in front of me.
Speaker 1: Everyone gives me my props. So all that I see
Speaker 1: is to respect in front of me. I don't hear
Speaker 1: about the disrespect that's not in front of me. See,
Speaker 1: like I said, people that talk about other people that
Speaker 1: aren't there are cowards and they're insecure about the lack
Speaker 1: of things they've done, So why would I just can't
Speaker 1: worry about that. But when those same people get in
Speaker 1: front of me, I'm sure every day I'm outside, every
Speaker 1: day people give me a handshake and give me my kudos.
Speaker 1: So I don't walk around getting denied. You may read
Speaker 1: it in the paper, but you got to think about
Speaker 1: the platforms that are saying the bad things. Those are
Speaker 1: the corporate platforms. They're trying to take all the attention
Speaker 1: off one thing, which is me showing everyone how to
Speaker 1: get money direct to consumer, how to not to have
Speaker 1: to have a middle man. Like you guys don't need
Speaker 1: a boss because you've all been here so long. I
Speaker 1: want to know what's big IL really gonna sign the
Speaker 1: Rockefeller Man one of those stuff like that. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why yeah, big I was gonna Okay, yeah he was.
Speaker 1: We were talking about he was always like I said,
Speaker 1: Bigel was a Harlem dude, and he was the first
Speaker 1: one in Harlem that was really doing it at that
Speaker 1: level before all of us. So it was like him
Speaker 1: cam and uh and bloodshed and um and um no
Speaker 1: children's corns. Yeah, I was trying to think about when
Speaker 1: Mace came around, Like Mace came around a little later,
Speaker 1: but it was them and um, you know, yeah, you
Speaker 1: think big I would have been one of them ones,
Speaker 1: no doubt if he was coming with Rockefeller, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I mean big El was really yeah, they're no, no,
Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt, There's no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 1: Like you know, Jay Z and Bigel battle one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty nine Street. How did that go? It was
Speaker 1: a good battle. Who won? Well? You know, I would
Speaker 1: have to say this, they were battles again. Let me
Speaker 1: just say you what happened battle? Yeah, so this is
Speaker 1: what happened. I came around the block. I had Jay
Speaker 1: with me. Ain't know Sean Arnold from Hallom. Everyone knows Sean.
Speaker 1: Alo's a funny duty. He plays ball. He come running
Speaker 1: up the block. What Big Girl, because we're always talking
Speaker 1: Big Eel's on the thirty knife right now. It was
Speaker 1: good and I was like, it's good. So Jay was
Speaker 1: right there, like you ready, and I thought that was
Speaker 1: brave Jay to be in the middle of Hallam and
Speaker 1: walk up into a while block like one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty nine. This is you know, back in the day,
Speaker 1: so you know, everybody was outside and one hundred forty
Speaker 1: second Street is the block I'm from, but they were
Speaker 1: still with a hundred thirty knife, you know, because everyone's related.
Speaker 1: So it was just me and Jay really and Jay.
Speaker 1: They went rapped for rapping, and Jay didn't get booed,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like people were saying it
Speaker 1: was a close tie. So to me, if you go
Speaker 1: on somebody else's block and it's a close tie if
Speaker 1: you did that on his block. And so that's how
Speaker 1: I gauged it. But in hindsight, you know, I couldn't
Speaker 1: be objective because I had so much like at the time,
Speaker 1: everything that Jay was talking about was about what we
Speaker 1: were doing, you know, so with so much passion and
Speaker 1: what he was saying it was so honest, and but
Speaker 1: I knew Big Girl as well, you know, so it was.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta remember in the moment, you don't
Speaker 1: know how legendary things are going to be, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like that's what I'm saying. Even like
Speaker 1: before the music, like you you wouldn't understand that the
Speaker 1: people that that raised me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even understand it now. But in the moment,
Speaker 1: all these people I made movies about him and the
Speaker 1: documentaries about him, these are all of my friends. These
Speaker 1: are the ideals I came from. So like things that
Speaker 1: are scary that most people aren't scary to me because
Speaker 1: the stuff that people think is scary I had to
Speaker 1: I had to deal with, Like we had to deal
Speaker 1: with some rough stuff, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: you didn't have the vision back then because you said legendary,
Speaker 1: meaning that I had the vision of not being. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that everyone was going to be legendary around me.
Speaker 1: You know, like Malik Yobert grew up in my building.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was going. In retrospect when you
Speaker 1: look back like we are it's crazy. Touched me. But
Speaker 1: also like you know, when you bring up name from
Speaker 1: the street like rich Porter, you know, and things like
Speaker 1: that I made movies about, like I was there. I
Speaker 1: made a movie about a personal experience. And when you
Speaker 1: hear about Cruis from the Lynch Mob, I was there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like these are the guy
Speaker 1: I knew these guys, guys right records about these guys,
Speaker 1: and these are my friends. They starting the ones that
Speaker 1: did it honorably. You're starting to come home. You know.
Speaker 1: I was at them when we did the screening at
Speaker 1: the club the other night. Um My man d Darren
Speaker 1: was there and he was like original lieutenant of the
Speaker 1: Lynch Mob. And it was funny because you know, he's
Speaker 1: my man. When he was a lieutenant, this is me
Speaker 1: and him were friends. We used to switch cars, jeeps,
Speaker 1: chains and he did his time. He was the guy
Speaker 1: that everybody thought was gonna fold and was was gonna cooperate,
Speaker 1: and he didn't. So you're telling me about how Leon's
Speaker 1: son is a rapper and that they some of what
Speaker 1: we called them out another rap Rex called them out,
Speaker 1: and they didn't know that he was in the background.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're the original lieutenant of the Lynch Mob
Speaker 1: and you're at a rap battle. This is our conversation.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that, man, I want
Speaker 1: to hear your book. It's all public domain. Man, I
Speaker 1: do want to know about this. He's like, what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is the conversation I want to have with him
Speaker 1: is one that's going to make chamellions, not one that's
Speaker 1: going to be more like a chatty conversation. That's not
Speaker 1: the conversation I want to have with the lieutenant of
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about. If that man tells
Speaker 1: his story that's on public record, that he get the
Speaker 1: time for right and there's redemption in it, and it
Speaker 1: shows that you know, he got punished for what he did. Oh,
Speaker 1: you have to remember if he's speaking about other men
Speaker 1: that don't make him chatty, he's talking about his own experience. Okay, See,
Speaker 1: you don't know what chatty is. I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: that out. I'm trying to tell you. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's good. I like that you're asking questions. I like
Speaker 1: that you don't want to be a chatty patty. It's
Speaker 1: good though unconsciously a chatty patty. And now that you
Speaker 1: know that you are one, you don't want to be
Speaker 1: when and you're asking I respect the question. Okay, So yeah,
Speaker 1: if I'm talking to you about my personal experience, No,
Speaker 1: how could I be a chatty patty. But if I'd
Speaker 1: be like, yo, such and such, that such and such.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna tell you who said it, that
Speaker 1: sounds like a chatty patty. Gray and I didn't work out.
Speaker 1: I don't have time. That's I was doing. You know,
Speaker 1: I do things, businesses for fun, and uh it was
Speaker 1: it didn't. I was, you know, like, I'm doing four movies,
Speaker 1: payting for myself. I moved to La I got the Fashion,
Speaker 1: I got the Rachel Roy But you know, I got
Speaker 1: so many businesses. I just didn't have time to run
Speaker 1: that because I'd be losing money. And it was like
Speaker 1: a complicated situation. So I opened up a couple of
Speaker 1: days and then I said it. It It was like, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be too much work, and I'm moving. It's
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, but um my son opened up a restaurant
Speaker 1: called Buns in the Midlands. Buns Buns. Yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: if you're want to day, if you're not in the
Speaker 1: streets anymore, you still have to play by the screen
Speaker 1: code in this In this business, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the ideals that you live by is an honor code.
Speaker 1: That code. Yeah, Like if somebody owes me some money,
Speaker 1: am I still punching them in his mouth? Not that cold?
Speaker 1: Because I don't have to worry about how other people
Speaker 1: were perceiving me. So you gotta remember, in the street,
Speaker 1: violence is only an ends to what means. It means
Speaker 1: to an end. It's the last form and the only
Speaker 1: reason why. It's for survival. So again, in the street,
Speaker 1: if someone owes you money, then everyone's gonna owe you money.
Speaker 1: If someone smacks you, everyone's gonna smack you. The only
Speaker 1: reason why it's marketing, Like he's pop, here's marketing for
Speaker 1: never owe me money, or here's marketing for you never
Speaker 1: have to pay me, or you could rob me one
Speaker 1: or the two and you don't have a choice. So
Speaker 1: that's why I chose not to be in that business.
Speaker 1: But my friends that play the game honorably, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: still live by those ideals for sure. Like let me
Speaker 1: tell you this, Like if there's a civilian in the
Speaker 1: street and they witness a murder and then they tell
Speaker 1: what they saw, that's not snitching. I'll be around that person.
Speaker 1: But if someone sold drugs and they hung out with
Speaker 1: friends all day long, and once they get caught, they
Speaker 1: tell on their friends and take their friends that they
Speaker 1: really loved and supposed to be, their brothers, that they knew,
Speaker 1: their kids, away from their kids, their wives, all that,
Speaker 1: just so they don't go to jail. I can't respect
Speaker 1: them about that, And that's what I've been taught. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna always live by those ideas. You know, whether I'm
Speaker 1: in the street or not, whether you snitch on me
Speaker 1: or snitch on somebody else, I'm not with period, And
Speaker 1: that's how I was taught. And whoever knows that has
Speaker 1: to respect that. You can't expect me to break these ideals,
Speaker 1: like can I bring a guy that's played the game
Speaker 1: right for twenty years around someone that didn't, or someone
Speaker 1: that hangs out with someone that didn't know it? You
Speaker 1: know what happens honestly, though, if I came around on
Speaker 1: our circle with someone that hangs out or any kind
Speaker 1: of way anywhere near that, because you don't ever know
Speaker 1: who it is, like, it'd be times I'd be with
Speaker 1: people and then after they'd be like, Yo's he's hot.
Speaker 1: He Cooper, dam I didn't know, or it's been time
Speaker 1: I had to be like Yo, that dude snitched on me,
Speaker 1: like black face put this dude up that I had
Speaker 1: to anyway, and I was like, yo, I can't went
Speaker 1: to court on me. You know, I got to take
Speaker 1: that down. He didn't know. So sometimes you don't know
Speaker 1: what conscious of it. If I consciously bought certain you know,
Speaker 1: someone that you knew was in the woman or was
Speaker 1: a round informance around any one of our circle, how
Speaker 1: would that be? Can do? I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's the way you raise you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's your morals and honor and morals. It's not something
Speaker 1: you learn. It's something that you taught mostly, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. A lot of guys not taught to
Speaker 1: have honor. They don't know what it's like when you
Speaker 1: see a guy make an honorable at you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you watch somebody say, somebody give their
Speaker 1: life for their family. That's honorable. It's hard to look at,
Speaker 1: but you say, damn, that's real. You know, when you
Speaker 1: step in front of a bullet for your son, or
Speaker 1: a car coming and you move your son and you
Speaker 1: get hit, it's like that type of feeling. But it's
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, People don't really it's not
Speaker 1: easy to be honest, Ya want to get tested every day.
Speaker 1: Only a real man could be honorable, and we and
Speaker 1: real men that an honorable take pride in it. So
Speaker 1: I brought somebody from my path. You don't ask me
Speaker 1: about my perspective about me. I'm gonna definitely tell you
Speaker 1: I'm a superhero. But if you really want to know
Speaker 1: about me, that's about what I did or how I
Speaker 1: was before he could tell you. Because he knew me
Speaker 1: when I was sixteen seventeen. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm still with my friends. I know him twenty years
Speaker 1: and got cool with him just because he knew him
Speaker 1: twenty years. So we twenty years. It don't matter. That's
Speaker 1: how Harlem does. And when Cam come around, and when
Speaker 1: Smoke come around, and anyone else from hallm comes around,
Speaker 1: it's expected we all look out. That's all we do.
Speaker 1: My blocks your block. As long as you ain't mess
Speaker 1: up my paper, I'm gonna give you an opportunity. If
Speaker 1: I got some room, you could get ahead and do
Speaker 1: what you gotta do, but only for a certain circle.
Speaker 1: And this honor thing. People don't understand it, but it's
Speaker 1: it's like a curtain all over the world and people
Speaker 1: you'll know, you'll know him like it's it's like right,
Speaker 1: like you'll bring a certain we all know the same
Speaker 1: people and we all related to the same people, and
Speaker 1: that's who taught me and that's who I listened to.
Speaker 1: So like when I was on the set, too honorable,
Speaker 1: it's a movie. Another movie I shot O next Moe,
Speaker 1: which I'm getting busy. I shot three movies and they
Speaker 1: shout out to Smoke Suarez to the comedian, I'm about
Speaker 1: to have a movie with him called Mixed Nuts. Bolls Um.
Speaker 1: Remember what happened with Toughie and I had to and
Speaker 1: I forgot what it was, but I was getting ready
Speaker 1: to get mad, and I had the old jeans around,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, have to get mad. Tell him what
Speaker 1: you just told me, because I think because we had
Speaker 1: done something to says some slick shit and I was
Speaker 1: his boss, so I'm like telling what he just told me.
Speaker 1: I thought he said you was a little body boss,
Speaker 1: but I never said I was stuck. He's boss. I
Speaker 1: fired him when the w he said, I'm a boss,
Speaker 1: I gotta get When I get into a cab, I'm
Speaker 1: the cab drove kid driver's boss. I'm paying him. Whoever
Speaker 1: was paying you was your boss at the time. For
Speaker 1: the amount of time he's paying you, that's your boss.
Speaker 1: Somebody paying me right then and there. That's why it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to do shows. And because that means
Speaker 1: somebody paying me, I'd be like, I can't. I got
Speaker 1: to be the promoter too. I just can't hand somebody
Speaker 1: to be my boss. Never in life was he my
Speaker 1: boss ever in life? He was never my boss. Ever.
Speaker 1: He might have made someone like a Chatty Patty think
Speaker 1: that I'm that he was my boss, but he never
Speaker 1: put up a dollar in his life. He was never
Speaker 1: a boss of mind. He just represented someone else's money.
Speaker 1: And that's really what makes me mad is when other
Speaker 1: people from other cultures represent other money. They act like bosses,
Speaker 1: but they make sure we know there are boss So
Speaker 1: like Joey I E or Joey Amanda whatever, whatever his
Speaker 1: name is, he's the head of black music. Why is
Speaker 1: a white man that had a black music and what
Speaker 1: does that have a black man feel? And what did
Speaker 1: he do to deserve that? What did Todd Mosco which
Speaker 1: do to deserve the right to have a business model
Speaker 1: with asylum that takes money off of a culture that
Speaker 1: he doesn't that he doesn't participate it. How can the
Speaker 1: guy that can't dance tell someone else what records to
Speaker 1: selling high unless it's for his own personal agenda? And
Speaker 1: then why would people from other cultures tell us what
Speaker 1: to do but they can't get no money in their
Speaker 1: own culture? Did Leo Cohen break a rock and roll
Speaker 1: group that you know of? Why do more black people
Speaker 1: know about that white man than white people? Because he
Speaker 1: wasn't with nobody. He was a He was a thief
Speaker 1: Death Jam from uh from Russell Simmons. That's what he did.
Speaker 1: And then when they sold Death Jam to Universal, they
Speaker 1: kept Leore to run then and they let they had
Speaker 1: what's your name? Russell had nothing to do with that,
Speaker 1: That's what he did. There's always some white man in
Speaker 1: charge of black people. That's and it's always a white
Speaker 1: man that's not even from and when I say culture,
Speaker 1: people that are like minded, like Leor and Tom Moscow,
Speaker 1: which they don't even live the culture. They don't listen
Speaker 1: to rap. When Michael Jackson came on the stage, Leo
Speaker 1: did not want to go. He didn't care. Do you
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying? The play Devil Advocate you got
Speaker 1: white people that work you're playing devil? How do you
Speaker 1: know who worked for mere? Chatty Patty Man, you don't know,
Speaker 1: you don't know who works for me? How are you
Speaker 1: telling me to work for me? So got I'm assuming
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't answer chatty Patties. Ask me a
Speaker 1: man question. Do you have white people that work for you?
Speaker 1: At times? But legit questions? When I said it, no,
Speaker 1: you told me I did. I mean no, you don't
Speaker 1: assume that because when I'm saying at times like when again,
Speaker 1: when I'm on a movie set and I'm paying Jonah
Speaker 1: Schwartz to be my DP and my cinematographer at that moment,
Speaker 1: he's working for me. But when you want a salary
Speaker 1: where you told what to do every day and all that.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, I'm not mad for being the boss
Speaker 1: I under said, I don't hire people. I'm mad at
Speaker 1: you're for having the same job for twenty five years.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm mad at. Like I can't see how
Speaker 1: people do the same every day and get told what
Speaker 1: to do every day and I have to ask when
Speaker 1: to go on vacation. I just can't. It doesn't Guys
Speaker 1: like us don't do that. See in the street. You
Speaker 1: hit it with work and you see him when you
Speaker 1: see him at a certain period of time, it's like, however,
Speaker 1: you get it, you get it. You out of structured schedule.
Speaker 1: You have to be told what to do. Did you
Speaker 1: do that? You Daniel went to school. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: like and like you know and if you want no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. This is America, the land of the free.
Speaker 1: You can be an entrepreneur. Jobs are for lazy people
Speaker 1: that don't want to invest in themselves. You've been here
Speaker 1: for twenty five years trying to have it, only been
Speaker 1: there for four But else you've been doing radio, just
Speaker 1: you just four years? No no, I started in ninety
Speaker 1: eight a constantly working my way up. What I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I'm on a different planet, So you understand. It's frustrating
Speaker 1: because you worked your way up to her position. You didn't.
Speaker 1: I never had a job, But you didn't jump out
Speaker 1: the tidy. I went and grab it. Yes, I flipped
Speaker 1: from the womb. Yes, from the womb. I was named
Speaker 1: there the day I was born. But you didn't have
Speaker 1: everything that you have now from the wound. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But the way I got it was not
Speaker 1: by a job. I got it by putting up my
Speaker 1: own money. And then the more it got, like like
Speaker 1: one day I have a lot of money, and then
Speaker 1: the next day I don't. You know why, because I've
Speaker 1: put it all in the street. People don't put it
Speaker 1: in the street. They don't put their own money up.
Speaker 1: So you keep saying, you know you just started you didn't, No, dog,
Speaker 1: I've always flipped it. But you know, some people make
Speaker 1: money some people. That's not me. People make money. I legit.
Speaker 1: The way I flipp is legit. Wait a second, Look
Speaker 1: what I'm doing right now. So I make a movie
Speaker 1: right loth side is I put my own money up.
Speaker 1: I make the movie, and I bag it up in
Speaker 1: ten dollars bottles and I sell it. Right That's it.
Speaker 1: That's the magic. Now I have a movie company because
Speaker 1: I put up the money to make it and because
Speaker 1: I'm taking it and putting it out myself as opposed
Speaker 1: to other people where people can just buy it right
Speaker 1: now at lot side of the movies dot Com for
Speaker 1: ten dollars, and I'm making money. So if I sell
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand, I make two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars if I make if I sell one hundred thousand,
Speaker 1: how much do I make ten dollars? You know, if
Speaker 1: I do one hundred thousand at you're doing really well
Speaker 1: at as far as dump over here, little tarp roll
Speaker 1: that just got out of school can do that house.
Speaker 1: He gonna get his money. He got to stop somewhere.
Speaker 1: It's paypalnd dogs, let's stoptle no, stop, stop stop side
Speaker 1: a little tarp Wait wait wait stop? The why is that?
Speaker 1: The scenario you make is the little tyro own scenarios
Speaker 1: talking about you? What about you? Me? When I got
Speaker 1: out of when I got out of college, I was
Speaker 1: doing mixtapes. I was a little bright. So let me
Speaker 1: let's start it now. When you got in my own
Speaker 1: mixtapes got you? You You don't own your own missage. You
Speaker 1: don't own the music, right, so you're in a fake
Speaker 1: existence though you think you own you know you're not
Speaker 1: listen to me. How do you get money? If no listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna explain it to you. The difference between me
Speaker 1: and you is you have a job. You started with
Speaker 1: the job, you still have a job, right, How do
Speaker 1: people start without? Can I can? How about this? As man?
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. So you have a job. Did you
Speaker 1: have a job ten years ago? Yes? I have a
Speaker 1: job now. Yes, right, ten years ago, I didn't have
Speaker 1: a job. I started by selling records, but I made
Speaker 1: the records and I went through the process of doing
Speaker 1: it right, so I had ownership in the record. So
Speaker 1: I never had a job. Ten years later, I still
Speaker 1: don't have a job. How did you pay for studio
Speaker 1: time if you didn't have it, if you didn't have
Speaker 1: the job, that's what asks you happened? I stop? How
Speaker 1: did you want the explanation? And you're talking? You're talking,
Speaker 1: You're not listening. I'm listening. How did you listen and
Speaker 1: speak at the same time. See, our perspective on things
Speaker 1: is different. So what I'm telling you is that was
Speaker 1: then right now? You don't need a studio to make
Speaker 1: a record. All you need is a computer, which everyone
Speaker 1: has pro tools. And I'm mic. I haven't made a
Speaker 1: record in the studio in ten years. You know this,
Speaker 1: so stop acting like that. Also, you don't need any
Speaker 1: money for knowledge. The problem is y'all don't take the
Speaker 1: time to listen. Y'all talk too much about gossip and
Speaker 1: not about what's gonna be. It's so easy. It's an internet,
Speaker 1: so there is no excusing not being able to sell
Speaker 1: something on Vimeo or PayPal, which is what people do
Speaker 1: and have an audience and make money off it. You
Speaker 1: can flip. So when you make more money off like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold any money till I have a
Speaker 1: football team, I'm trying to flip all my money to
Speaker 1: get to a billion. So once I get to the
Speaker 1: football team. Or that was easy for you to say, Dog,
Speaker 1: I just use my own money. And when I don't
Speaker 1: have it, y'all on the radio talking about me, right
Speaker 1: And when I do have it, you're asking me about
Speaker 1: other that I did you know twenty ten years ago?
Speaker 1: So you got it right now? No, I don't. I
Speaker 1: got the movies on the street. I'm never gonna have
Speaker 1: it because as soon as I get it, it goes
Speaker 1: on the street. I don't put up money saving moneys
Speaker 1: for suckers to me. I have so much confidence in
Speaker 1: me that I flipped. And ten years later, and fifteen
Speaker 1: years later and twenty years later, I'm still a boss
Speaker 1: and she still got a job. Wait, maybe you might
Speaker 1: want to break the cycle, because what's gonna happen now?
Speaker 1: Your kid gonna go up wanting to be like who
Speaker 1: his dad and what his dad got? What does his
Speaker 1: dad have? Stop? What is this? What does what? Does
Speaker 1: his dad have? A job? Everything? You're not listening to
Speaker 1: your father. Listen answer you know, But can I answer
Speaker 1: my question? You're saying what you want? You have a job,
Speaker 1: So your son's gonna want a job. He's gonna thank
Speaker 1: because if daddy has a job, he should have a job.
Speaker 1: Case in point, I don't have a job. My son
Speaker 1: Boogie doesn't have a job, right, that's all I hustle
Speaker 1: for my kids. I don't want my kids to ever
Speaker 1: want to have a job. But there's nothing with my
Speaker 1: son wanting a job. To me, it is could you
Speaker 1: explain this to me today? I don't want my son
Speaker 1: to call him to me calling another man. Bosses, call
Speaker 1: another man. Daddy's not for men to be told what
Speaker 1: to do by other men. That's just where halls rang.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you could go be calling somebody else boss,
Speaker 1: a man or whatever and hustle for You can't pass
Speaker 1: to your son, but use a little money you get
Speaker 1: from what they get, because you look at the margin.
Speaker 1: If the radios company's making a billion shouldn't you be
Speaker 1: making some of that like somewhere near that. It's not.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make mathematical sense. The people that are spending
Speaker 1: your money don't wake up this early. I guarantee you
Speaker 1: they don't go to work for I was a day
Speaker 1: and break the impact for pennies on the dollar. Now,
Speaker 1: what do you think about people doing things for experience,
Speaker 1: like say making the transition into fashion and saying I'm
Speaker 1: going to do an internet and get a job and
Speaker 1: work for somebody because I don't know how to do this.
Speaker 1: Or but yeah, your son said, I'm gonna have my
Speaker 1: own you know, we're opening up our own restaurant, our
Speaker 1: own story. We sell that these cookies. But I need
Speaker 1: to go work someplace first so I can learn all
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of how everything operates. Do you
Speaker 1: think that's a smart thing to do. I think being
Speaker 1: an interance for me, the best way to learn is
Speaker 1: to go put your own money up and do it yourself,
Speaker 1: to be honest. But like Kanye is a legend and
Speaker 1: something else, So in that respect, yeah, you could do
Speaker 1: that because you know your kids is all right, because
Speaker 1: you were like, there're things like I'm gonna do art,
Speaker 1: I don't collect it for immediate money. It's not going
Speaker 1: to pay my kids bills now, but it might pay
Speaker 1: my grandkids bills later. You know, there's certain things I
Speaker 1: do like when I did no, I don't think. I
Speaker 1: think you have to practice what you want to be.
Speaker 1: I don't think rehearsing and haven't being told what to
Speaker 1: do is is the best way to become a boss.
Speaker 1: I think the best way to become a boss is
Speaker 1: to take twenty dollars and go buy something like three
Speaker 1: shirts and sell them for you know, and make it
Speaker 1: into forty. And like I've taught my son Lucky, I have.
Speaker 1: The reason why I have a gallery is so a
Speaker 1: store front is so that my kid Lucky could sell something,
Speaker 1: but not drugs. So in the summertime he sits in
Speaker 1: front of the gallery and sells hats and goes to
Speaker 1: the store and he learns how it feels and make
Speaker 1: money on its own, and he knows that he could
Speaker 1: sell something and make a margin. And then he takes
Speaker 1: his money that he makes and he has to take
Speaker 1: me Ava and Roquel to eat for the day. So
Speaker 1: when he stays with me, I may them he can't eat.
Speaker 1: We eat cereal and we can't eat until he sells
Speaker 1: a certain amount of half. Agree with that, I think,
Speaker 1: but I can't. But you can't do that and someone
Speaker 1: else's store. No finished. And now with my daughter, same thing.
Speaker 1: She gotta this is av she gotta sit there. But
Speaker 1: it was quickly, but I get to see I'm sitting
Speaker 1: out there whatever me and Rocky. It's some little pump
Speaker 1: you know. Little dude come up like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what popton is, but can I have your number? And
Speaker 1: I get the yell at the guy. I would never
Speaker 1: let my dude, my daughter bring home a corney as
Speaker 1: dude like you with ashy ankle, like all that. And
Speaker 1: then I get those experiences with her, and I get
Speaker 1: to see how people taking her serious like she gets
Speaker 1: to see all those things with me. I agree. I
Speaker 1: have a gallery in China. So what did I do?
Speaker 1: I brought boogie and I brought uh Ava to China.
Speaker 1: So she's fifty fourteen years old. She already been to China,
Speaker 1: boogie already, DJ in China. I brought Rocky, showed her
Speaker 1: art all over in China already. When you own stuff,
Speaker 1: you can do what you want with it. I got
Speaker 1: a club. How many parties be through this week like
Speaker 1: three right. I just can't been home a week every
Speaker 1: day screenings in the club just because I own it
Speaker 1: the club, Lenora. So I gotta be harm because I'm black,
Speaker 1: black man. That's what I'm saying. Mentality some mentality wise
Speaker 1: to stop the cycle, To stop the cycle for your kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want your kid to thank this hero have
Speaker 1: a boss. Superman didn't have a boss. Batman didn't have
Speaker 1: a boss. So I want my kids to look at
Speaker 1: me like a superhero. How could a superhero be told
Speaker 1: what to do? Are you a superhero to your kid?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? When you not when your boss is in
Speaker 1: the room. Still, no, you're not. We see you. Well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be on a different level because see there's
Speaker 1: a difference because I don't have to. I don't do
Speaker 1: anything because half man if y'all don't. But I agree
Speaker 1: with Are you gonna put the money up from Drake?
Speaker 1: The battle? You're gonna put that together? If Drake will
Speaker 1: step up, well we'll organize it. I'm sure amongst my
Speaker 1: Harlem friends, we could get that up. The thing is,
Speaker 1: I think I think Um Drake made a fundamental mistake
Speaker 1: in battling. He challenged Muke see in the street, you
Speaker 1: can't challenge somebody and take back the challenge. So now
Speaker 1: that and this is from what I've heard, So it
Speaker 1: ain't no disrespect to Drake, but I think he said
Speaker 1: something on a motion, on a business level. His people's
Speaker 1: told him, yo, you got too much to lose. So
Speaker 1: what I told h Mooke was Drake's not gonna balue
Speaker 1: you to you're richard than him, and that'll be next week.
Speaker 1: Until Drake has something to lose. He's not gonna wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it. He I wouldn't advise his like dog, it's
Speaker 1: like going to a dice game where you got a
Speaker 1: man in your pocket and it's only a one hundred
Speaker 1: dollars between everybody, you know. That's how I was. They're
Speaker 1: looking at it like you ain't got nothing. He wants.
Speaker 1: He wants to do it, but I think he's being
Speaker 1: advised ont too. But whenever he's ready, Like just how
Speaker 1: I like the way Floyd did it with Paccal. He
Speaker 1: lay by talking, then he actually made sure that it
Speaker 1: was done correctly by having a direct conversation, no chatty
Speaker 1: patty ones with Paccal and didn't happen and the timing
Speaker 1: is right. So when it's time for full like I would,
Speaker 1: I almost would prefer them to battle when he has
Speaker 1: more to lose because because right now, if I'm Drake,
Speaker 1: went the way I do. When I challenge somebody, I
Speaker 1: think I put my eyeballs in their eyeballs, you know,
Speaker 1: and their skull. So if I'm Drake, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not battering Murder. Nobody really knows him but people that battle.
Speaker 1: And if he wins, now i'm he's the underdoor. You
Speaker 1: never fight the underdoor because you have nothing. If he wins,
Speaker 1: he's Drake. If he loses, now he's the guy that
Speaker 1: beat Drake. But if Muke is bigger than Drake and
Speaker 1: they both are making money doing other things, that's a
Speaker 1: bad So I don't anticipate you. You could talk about
Speaker 1: it all day, but as a strategic thing. If I
Speaker 1: was in his camp, I wouldn't invalue. I would say, yo,
Speaker 1: stop talking when you drunk and let's make money. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I'm sure that I'm sure
Speaker 1: someone older than him said that based on his actions.
Speaker 1: But when he's ready, as gentleman, I think we should
Speaker 1: have a battle, and I think it would be just
Speaker 1: as big as Poccala mine and um and and Floyd.
Speaker 1: But you have to be Pacca before you fight Floyd.
Speaker 1: And technically Floyd was a little chatty patty because he
Speaker 1: brought up the fact that I'm not I'm Floyd and
Speaker 1: what I do? Okay, stop, you have more money, Floyd,
Speaker 1: don't matter. This lot of argument is it's a perspective.
Speaker 1: That's what people would love. What I'm saying is Floyd.
Speaker 1: No one listens to Floyd till he was rich. Floyd
Speaker 1: wasn't Floyd to Floyd beat Um, the other Spanish dude, Um,
Speaker 1: what's his name? That that? What's his name? Chavez? Right? No, No, no,
Speaker 1: Delloyd until Floyd be because I you know, I used
Speaker 1: to I was the first person to put the sponsor Floyd.
Speaker 1: I always knew he was gonna be great, so I
Speaker 1: used to put rockwear on him a long time ago.
Speaker 1: He used to come to my house and all these
Speaker 1: kind of things that we would talk. But no one
Speaker 1: would pay attention to Floyd untill Floyd could had had
Speaker 1: something to give them. So you're not Floyd until you
Speaker 1: got money like Floyd or the money a champ had,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have money like Floyd, but pokey ow, you're
Speaker 1: not pokey OL. When I say until your pokey out,
Speaker 1: Floyd wasn't listening until pokey ol, until Poco beat all
Speaker 1: these people, then he became pokey OL. So you're starting
Speaker 1: as a person that's from the street. You don't have
Speaker 1: as much money as someone that's successful yet. But they're
Speaker 1: not gonna fight you till you have as much or
Speaker 1: more than they do. They're not gonna fight you until
Speaker 1: they have something to gain. It's a one sided situation
Speaker 1: in this fight. Right now to him, he's saying he
Speaker 1: has an art award. He's like all day he battles me,
Speaker 1: like when we on the set, like I'll keep him,
Speaker 1: I don't want to come because he always wants to
Speaker 1: figure it out and you know that's what we do.
Speaker 1: And right now for the sport, he's like, I could
Speaker 1: I need to show you know, he challenged him, but
Speaker 1: Drake's not in it like that, you know, for the
Speaker 1: sport he wants to do with Drake's he's making a
Speaker 1: lot of money doing shows. If you kill him, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna make no more money doing chills. You could
Speaker 1: his career up like that, So he's knocked off his
Speaker 1: career up unless it's way you killing you killing him
Speaker 1: on the point, I was making those that I understand.
Speaker 1: But that's like if I he coming into what I
Speaker 1: do right so and what I do best, I'm the
Speaker 1: best in what I do talk skills. So if he
Speaker 1: coming in, I don't care what kind of money you got,
Speaker 1: but you don't. But what does he care him? But
Speaker 1: he should have said if you let me pretend you
Speaker 1: him for a second. But what's he saying, be Drake
Speaker 1: and I'm your man. I can't be Drake. So you
Speaker 1: can't even think how he's thinking right now. He's not
Speaker 1: thinking like you. He's thinking like Drake, So you mad
Speaker 1: at him for thinking not thinking like you. Drake doesn't
Speaker 1: have a mustache you do because he didn't like you
Speaker 1: don't know if you if you deserve. But but thedn't
Speaker 1: after that, Ja, we was in Toronto when he said
Speaker 1: that we I was in Toronto, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when he's I wasn't. I wasn't at the actual
Speaker 1: president because I went to the game and all that.
Speaker 1: But the next day at the joint, it was it
Speaker 1: was a battle at the joint, like, and I was there,
Speaker 1: he was there, and they came to me like, yo, listen,
Speaker 1: if we could get Drake to do one round right now,
Speaker 1: would you now? This is what? No, And I'm just
Speaker 1: like free, that's the first thing. I'm like, yo, free,
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me speak to him. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I go speak to him and he,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, yo, no, the picture that's the
Speaker 1: when it first stopped pictures, when it first started. This
Speaker 1: just happened like week two weeks ago, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And he like, yo, um, this is where
Speaker 1: almost what the battle almost happening. He just like, yo, um,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you got rhymes, don't you? He had balls
Speaker 1: waiting for you said there. I'm like, I'm like, but
Speaker 1: it's cool though. I'm like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you got you got, you got rhyms. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I ain't really got no rhyms right now for you, don't?
Speaker 1: He like, you know, but you know, he started going
Speaker 1: to like, you know, I just figured, like what do
Speaker 1: we even here on this earth for if we can't
Speaker 1: you know, we can't. Yeah, So I'm like, you know
Speaker 1: what give me an hour. Cool, give me an hour.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go come up with trust me, give me
Speaker 1: an hour. Now, I mind you. I was already drinking four.
Speaker 1: I was there for five hours. They seen me for
Speaker 1: five hours already. So then after the hour I came,
Speaker 1: they came back. I'm like, yo, tell him it's on, Like,
Speaker 1: let's do it. So we was. It was. It looked
Speaker 1: to all possibilities about to happen like right now in
Speaker 1: their spurred a moment, and then five minutes later they
Speaker 1: was like yo. His management was like, no, he can't
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, of course, all dude can't do that.
Speaker 1: You can't ask somebody for a fair one and back up,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. But again, get from two different places.
Speaker 1: But I just just reminds me. This reminds me. I
Speaker 1: could tell you about a parallel example of how I
Speaker 1: could see the perspective. So when Naas had the ether
Speaker 1: rout and I don't know what happened, but I was
Speaker 1: at um Arizona shooting a rock wear campaign and when
Speaker 1: I landed, I heard super ugly when I landed it
Speaker 1: and I was sick, and I was like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck happened? Because you didn't advise that that I did
Speaker 1: not say that was all right? So oh me and
Speaker 1: IRV Gotti or Gotti, So I called her. I'm like, Arth,
Speaker 1: why the did you? You know? We told him, you know,
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff that we don't do, And
Speaker 1: I wish I could have rewinded it to like why
Speaker 1: y'all didn't call me so I could have told you
Speaker 1: not to do that? You understand what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: in the moment, an artist who's inspired is gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna try to fight. But he must have had somebody
Speaker 1: there that Jay didn't have that day, because that was
Speaker 1: the only elbow we really took. That was the beginning
Speaker 1: of the end, really, you know, because we were unstoppable
Speaker 1: before that. But you may stop. But someone was there
Speaker 1: to tell like, you bugging, it's ruining you today. You drinking?
Speaker 1: You know. I mean, someone older or smarter than him
Speaker 1: probably gave him the right advice, because I wouldn't advise it.
Speaker 1: Would you have advised Jay to reply to Ether at
Speaker 1: all or just leave it at takeover in e um
Speaker 1: she At the time, I felt like we were winning,
Speaker 1: you know, because we had done to Michael Jackson thing
Speaker 1: and we had called him out, so he to me
Speaker 1: he was talking here, say like our thing when I
Speaker 1: battled Michael, I'm with I like to tell the truth.
Speaker 1: I don't like to say who says the funniest punch lines.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is we professional, so let's just say
Speaker 1: true things. So I thought like the stuff that Nah
Speaker 1: said was dope, but I think like he emotionally got
Speaker 1: a jay because he was inviting him to his It
Speaker 1: was a little chatty patty. So I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you just got caught up in gossip. You don't have
Speaker 1: to answer gossip. If he says something real like he
Speaker 1: dame dummy Dan. I thought that was dope because he
Speaker 1: said my name. But everyone knows I'm not dumb. That's obvious.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to reply to them, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm gonna be happy he said it,
Speaker 1: So I thought like, you should let it rock out.
Speaker 1: That's why. That's why he did it when I wasn't around,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I thought we had
Speaker 1: played it fair, and I don't care if other people
Speaker 1: think someone wins. All I care is if I think
Speaker 1: I won. You know, I did it right and played
Speaker 1: the game, So I didn't think it was necessary, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, But if he was going to
Speaker 1: do it wouldn't have been like I wouldn't have. So
Speaker 1: that's why we lost. You see, when you star more Gossip,
Speaker 1: you end up doing things that aren't honorable when you
Speaker 1: end up apologizing on the radio the next day. But www,
Speaker 1: low side of the movie, don't forget make sure y'all
Speaker 1: pick that up. You know what I mean. We're losing
Speaker 1: focus with all this other bubble gump shit. But you
Speaker 1: know that's why we're here. We want to promote it
Speaker 1: and the movie one more time. I mean, the movie
Speaker 1: is you know, it's basically right now. We still in
Speaker 1: progress and it's a lot going on in the movie,
Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's about my man murder move.
Speaker 1: He's from Harlem. He catch your body, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, police looking for him. He can't hustle and
Speaker 1: hallom no more. So you have to come down to
Speaker 1: the Lower east Side. Come down the Lower east Side.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of guys, you know, everywhere you
Speaker 1: got guys. G It really is though, like so the
Speaker 1: East Side because they don't want to see him down there,
Speaker 1: and you have to fight to get you know, to
Speaker 1: get his proper perspective on the lower east side and
Speaker 1: his position, so everybody is like, you know, that's like
Speaker 1: I come to the block I'm not from, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and anybody like, yo, we don't want
Speaker 1: this kid down here. We're gonna make sure we don't
Speaker 1: do whatever we got to do with get him out
Speaker 1: of here. And then the game of hustling. You know
Speaker 1: what that means. They're gonna try to shoot you, rob you,
Speaker 1: kill you. You know, it's just what it was. So
Speaker 1: you know, moo, he stood tall in the joint like
Speaker 1: a Harlem dude, you know, like a Brooklyn dude, or
Speaker 1: like a Queen's dude. And that's another thing. All that
Speaker 1: dividing up the burrows and all that's over with, And
Speaker 1: ain't like my man said a long time ago, and
Speaker 1: ain't where you're from. It's where you're at, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, you know that long time ago.
Speaker 1: The movie come out moves outments well the way I'm
Speaker 1: putting it out to the rest of the worlds and segments,
Speaker 1: but you could buy it in its entirety in segments
Speaker 1: right now. So I wanted to have that feeling. But
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna put it out in another variation in
Speaker 1: the whole movie theatrically. So basically my thing is to
Speaker 1: have a direct to consumer relationship, you know, cut the
Speaker 1: middleman on completely and have at least have my money
Speaker 1: made back before I put it out the regular way,
Speaker 1: before I start, you know, giving up my margin for traffic.
Speaker 1: But I will put it out. It will be on iTunes,
Speaker 1: it will be in theaters, will be on demand, it
Speaker 1: will do all that other stuff. But first the people
Speaker 1: that I know direct can get it directly from me.
Speaker 1: At low side is the movie dot com Hello Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: I s A I d A S Yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: movie dot Com. When you're writing a book, I also
Speaker 1: have a book. You know, I have a book called
Speaker 1: Culture Vultures. It's called Culture Vultures. I did I have?
Speaker 1: You've been looking at the hip hop motivations that I do.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so, me and um and Yana did a book
Speaker 1: and I've it's already written. He wrote it. We're done
Speaker 1: with it, and I'm also giving it out in a
Speaker 1: different ways. So it's gonna be auditory experience as well.
Speaker 1: So right now you can order it from Poppington Group
Speaker 1: dot com, which is like my Netflix, and you can
Speaker 1: order the first chapter of me saying it um um,
Speaker 1: you know, like a record, and then you'll get the
Speaker 1: first five chapters as a record, and you also get
Speaker 1: it in the visual like a movie. And you're also
Speaker 1: gonna get it as a book. But you can get
Speaker 1: that right now. Pre order for five hours at Poppington Group.
Speaker 1: Right movie and and and then I'm gonna hire Envy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hire you. Hold on. There's no way. They
Speaker 1: wanted to know how much respect you have for him?
Speaker 1: Would you would you let him get the would you
Speaker 1: let him get the Jordans? Would you let him get
Speaker 1: the Jordans? Or you want to know what happened with Yeah,
Speaker 1: your man's out there. He got to Jordans and he
Speaker 1: was like I got only tens and Envy got him,
Speaker 1: So maybe don't want him, you can have him. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's my man. I know em people
Speaker 1: paying me the proper spect. I don't know. Maybe you
Speaker 1: would even buy him. I'm not yet, not yet yet,
Speaker 1: but if I I'd rather be honestly, I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to be your boss. I'd rather be your partner. And
Speaker 1: I would rather like plus, do a book, do a movie,
Speaker 1: do a doc. You know I would throw down. If
Speaker 1: you want on a radio show to syndicate that has
Speaker 1: a new name, why don't we just you know, do
Speaker 1: a clues boss though, right? I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: used to be PHO, used to be signed to UH
Speaker 1: to UH Rockefeller. But he had his own career as
Speaker 1: a DJ, so I wasn't his boss for DJ and
Speaker 1: but I did cut the check and as representing Rockefeller
Speaker 1: for the records that we made. You know, you can
Speaker 1: do for another DJ clues like you went platinum like
Speaker 1: I do. I can make anybody famous. That's easy. It's easy,
Speaker 1: you know, because I only deal with honest people that do.
Speaker 1: You know, I just I just know authenticness and people
Speaker 1: buy that and I give it a platform, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? But like I was saying, if y'all
Speaker 1: want to do something other than what's the name of
Speaker 1: what you own my show? Breakfast club? You don't own
Speaker 1: a breakfast club, we don't. There's no name, all right,
Speaker 1: so you own the no name? Can we have a
Speaker 1: name and we can do something together? And I'm down.
Speaker 1: I'll do a movie with y'all. I'll do something with you,
Speaker 1: you know. And I was just thinking, like revolt if
Speaker 1: puff owns Revolt. He's from home and that's my channel. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm being chatty, but I just saw the ask
Speaker 1: me a question. Yeah, you said that. Did he wouldn't
Speaker 1: clear to call him? Did he whatever? Whatever? You wouldn't
Speaker 1: clear big to be in the Brooklyn's Final Puff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't clear it. So why could you do business
Speaker 1: with him? Because I don't say do business. I said,
Speaker 1: I want to use this network. That's okay, Okay, you
Speaker 1: gotta listen, Chatty Patty w w W low side of
Speaker 1: the movie. It's the longest interview we've ever done on
Speaker 1: But I questions, but hopefully you don't even feel the time.
Speaker 1: I was trying too, But you know you were asking
Speaker 1: about you like such a such, such a such such
Speaker 1: such what I'm talking about with him? See now he
Speaker 1: got y'all talking about doing your own things. That's what
Speaker 1: it's about. Though you feel me empowering each other even
Speaker 1: through controversial conversation, But it's not. It's just a difference
Speaker 1: of perspective, That's what I'm saying exactly. Men can have conversations.
Speaker 1: You gotta fight over that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't disrespect by once it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're stupid. I was like, but I might have said it,
Speaker 1: So I was like, my bad. And if I did,
Speaker 1: you know, that's not what I do. But and you
Speaker 1: offer cookies, I get his cookies. Come. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: little early for cookies, but I've been munching on him
Speaker 1: joint crazy boy. And and you know also you know
Speaker 1: and and and the respect and the respect that and
Speaker 1: the respect that I'm always half for y'all is that
Speaker 1: you've been in the game so long. So there's always
Speaker 1: a brother ship we're gonna have just because I knew
Speaker 1: you twenty years ago, regardless of whether we was on
Speaker 1: the same team, were on the same team, because we
Speaker 1: in hip hop, and my thing is love. It's not
Speaker 1: about knocking mother damn. It's about helping him get up.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell your false which usually makes people mad.
Speaker 1: But then I'm gonna say but I'm not only gonna
Speaker 1: tell you, but I'm gonna help you get without. Like
Speaker 1: you can have this life and it's cool, but let's
Speaker 1: do something different. Are you allowed to do other things? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: All right? So but we are though it's not like
Speaker 1: we limited. I'm saying what I'm saying is this, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna just talk and I'm saying no, I'll do
Speaker 1: something with you. What you want to do. You want
Speaker 1: to work with me, and you're scared. Let's do a
Speaker 1: deal right now, Let's do it. I'm I don't know
Speaker 1: that I feel like anything. We do, want what you
Speaker 1: want to do. Let's do you want to do, but
Speaker 1: let's do it. When the hell do you call me that?
Speaker 1: If I can't do that because that's a verbal contract,
Speaker 1: you're not holding me to that. I don't know. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about it. His head somewhere. I don't know.