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Speaker 1: more details. Jeff John, both of us have done a

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Speaker 1: lot of work getting ready for this game this week.

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Speaker 1: And I think simply because they've been a bad football

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Speaker 1: team for a few years now. They were six and

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Speaker 1: ten last year, people think, oh Bills at home, you

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Speaker 1: gotta win this game. And while yes, very important game

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Speaker 1: to win a game, the Giants do need to win.

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Speaker 1: I will not I will hesitate the cold and must win.

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Speaker 1: Because we talked about them having to go too and

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Speaker 1: two in their first four it's a very important game.

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Speaker 1: And the Bills defense, and I think we should start

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Speaker 1: there is legitimately in the conversation, is a top three

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Speaker 1: defense in football. They are. They are the number three

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Speaker 1: defense seven against the run, third, second against the past.

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Speaker 1: Cornerbacks are good, safeties, can hit, and last year, in

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Speaker 1: a bigger sample size, the only NFL team to hold

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Speaker 1: opponents to under a hundred eight passing yards per game

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Speaker 1: for the whole season. Yeah, they've They've held their their

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Speaker 1: last nine opponents to less than two yards a game

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Speaker 1: really going back to last year. So just kind of

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Speaker 1: painting a picture for you guys. The defense is legit

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Speaker 1: I know that Giants played a good defense in Dallas

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Speaker 1: last week. This defense is just as good, or I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're better than than Dallas. They're probably better. They're better,

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Speaker 1: and um, so we're gonna have to find a way

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Speaker 1: to if the Giants can move the football like they

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Speaker 1: did last week against the Cowboys, UM certainly be better

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Speaker 1: on third down, John and and you know they had

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Speaker 1: over four hundred and seventy yards of offense. They gotta

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Speaker 1: put the ball on the endzone and score some points.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, those just garbage time yards either.

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Speaker 1: They had almost three hundred fifty through three quarters when

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Speaker 1: the game was stolen, doubt, so they did move the ball.

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Speaker 1: They were just bad situationally, absolutely, So you gotta you

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Speaker 1: gotta get better on third downs and you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: some points. And this buff this Buffalo team is stingy

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Speaker 1: and Jeff that was the one weakness. One weakness this

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Speaker 1: Bill's defense had last year sevent touchdown percentage in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. They've corrected that last week. Third worst team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL in terms of red zone defense a

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Speaker 1: year ago. They were. Now they were excellent against Jets

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Speaker 1: last week. Only allowed one touchdown on offense to the

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Speaker 1: Jets one and they obviously the Jets go to defensive

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Speaker 1: touchdown as well in that game. So the Bill's defense

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Speaker 1: is excellent. They rushed the past or they do it creatively.

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Speaker 1: They've a lot of blitz is um. You got Hughes

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Speaker 1: folks have a chance, Carl Banks, didn't Oliver play for

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Speaker 1: strategy for Giants first and ten where he basically just

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Speaker 1: much as we followed the draft last year and and

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Speaker 1: shoot up the board towards the end. Remember John when

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he had all these great

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Speaker 1: one thing that they do is they blitz a lot.

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Speaker 1: They come from everywhere. They give you a lot of

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Speaker 1: base four three defense, and I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at their past coverages, Jeff, yeah,

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Speaker 1: down the percentages of coverages they played, it was almost

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Speaker 1: even between Cover one, Cover two, Cover three, and quarters

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Speaker 1: they'll blitz linebackers. They like blitzing their safeties. Player had

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Speaker 1: Stoling Shepherd by the way, if you have not heard,

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Speaker 1: We'll see what Cody Lattimer's officially injury designation was. He

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Speaker 1: did practice today to some extent. We'll see about that.

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Speaker 1: Benny Fowler, Russell Shephard, T J. Jones got brought back,

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Speaker 1: have an Ingram who can help win one on one too.

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a challenge to do something against

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Speaker 1: this bill secondary and past defense in general, which last

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Speaker 1: You know, you have all kinds of ways that come

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Speaker 1: up with a bunch of stuff, um, which is good

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Speaker 1: for Esmond, our preparation for our broadcast and these games

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Speaker 1: Kwon is very successful work versus these top ten defenses. Okay, Um,

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Speaker 1: your game plan. You're gonna get the ball to sequon

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Speaker 1: at least twenty one times, right, Yes? And I think

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Speaker 1: You know, Josh Allen, he's not a very good pocket

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Speaker 1: passer yet he's just not there yet. Is the second

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Speaker 1: the Giants. And one thing we saw from them last

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Speaker 1: week where I think Kellen Moore probably did you know,

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Speaker 1: fundamentals are good. Alan provides a different challenge in terms

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Speaker 1: his open receivers. Um. Some good statistics here. Last week

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Speaker 1: Last week interesting statistic was that they came out with

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Speaker 1: think about that, folks, twenty straight passes they passed, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: They lined up in shotgun forty seven times. They passed

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Speaker 1: forty three times of those. Ye, that's a tendency. Now

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Speaker 1: prepare for that tendance it because I'm sure when the

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Speaker 1: we show something different. And one thing they did, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: They would come out in that one personnel which has

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Speaker 1: the fullback Patrick DeMarco. They'd show an eye formation once

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Speaker 1: fullback Patrick DeMarco out wide more than twenty times in

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Speaker 1: that game, and they and they put they kept one

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Speaker 1: whether it was Frank Gore or Devin singlet Devin singletary

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Speaker 1: I think that this is where the Giants have to

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Speaker 1: win to win this game. And you got the better kicker, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you have the better punter. I know that, Um and

431
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Speaker 1: all I think the Giants have better skilled special teams players.

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Speaker 1: The Giants are good on specials. Last year they were

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Speaker 1: one of the top teams in the league. They got

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Speaker 1: a lot of good guys. But I think this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a low scoring game. A lot of field goals,

436
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Speaker 1: a lot of punts, field position, field position, and so

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Speaker 1: that's that's got to be important. Um, I don't know

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be. Will T J. Jones be the returner

439
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Speaker 1: this week? Maybe one or two? You know, I think

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Speaker 1: he's certainly capable of it, and he'll probably be active

441
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Speaker 1: because showing it's not gonna go that's right. And when

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Speaker 1: did that come down? Just today? Yeah? Okay, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to follow that. And you know, the

444
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Speaker 1: concussion things are tough. Patch number walk though field an

445
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Speaker 1: hour ago and he told us so it is a

446
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Speaker 1: tough thing, and um, sometimes guys are different. Everybody's different

447
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Speaker 1: about concussions. Some guys can come back pretty quickly. Some

448
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Speaker 1: guys can. It all depends on the injury and the player. Yeah, exactly,

449
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Speaker 1: so real quick. By the way, one of the number

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Speaker 1: on the throw out there before you get to the calls,

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Speaker 1: is that the Bill's defense in week one to not

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Speaker 1: allow one play of twenty yards or more, and last

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Speaker 1: year they lead the league in preventing past plays of

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Speaker 1: twenty yards or more. So again, it's okay, here's what

455
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Speaker 1: you gotta And by the way, it's gonna be Barkley.

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Speaker 1: If the Johnts make a big play, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a Barkley run. That's where it's coming from. Okay, And

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Speaker 1: it's got to come on first and second downs, right,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get some plays on first and second Now,

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Speaker 1: if they're not gonna you're not gonna get big plays

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Speaker 1: on first and second downs. What I mean by by

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Speaker 1: positive yards get three four yards on first down, two

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Speaker 1: yards three yards and second down, so you get those

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Speaker 1: manageable third downs, okay, because they're not gonna give you

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Speaker 1: a big big plays. Yards is a big play for

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Speaker 1: you know, they're not gonna give it to you. You

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Speaker 1: don't have Maybe if they start focusing on the run,

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Speaker 1: you play acting them. You might get a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys trapped in there, but they're deep there, they got

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Speaker 1: good safety, they get good corners. Um, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a tough game, folks, but you know what, it's a

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Speaker 1: home game for the Giants and they like to play

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Speaker 1: at home and the crowd can get into it. There

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Speaker 1: will be some bills fans there, you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there will be coming down from Buffalo. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: the phones. Mackenzie, Jerome and Charlotte will lead us off.

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Speaker 1: You're on. What's going on? Hi, guys? Um, I don't

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Speaker 1: just for the improvement to get get catch off the

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Speaker 1: Giants catch on fire and stay on fire. Our biggest

484
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Speaker 1: thing is that everybody talking about the offensive line couldn't

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Speaker 1: even get the one yard? Do you? I believe that

486
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Speaker 1: they was exosted from not being in shape for game ready.

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Speaker 1: Which player you're talking about, Jerome, because they passed it

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Speaker 1: on on both their fourth and third and once Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying when they couldn't when Penny couldn't get

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Speaker 1: that one yard, No, but that was third and two

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Speaker 1: when he got one yard, he just didn't get two yards,

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Speaker 1: but it was two yards. I think they was exosted

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Speaker 1: because they haven't been in game shaped, because they haven't

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Speaker 1: played well. I gotta be honest with you, Jerome. The

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Speaker 1: Giants offense at that point had run about fifteen plays,

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Speaker 1: so if they were exhausted after fifteen plays, we got

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Speaker 1: big problems. Because they had games in the preseason where

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Speaker 1: they played twenty years so played so that only in

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Speaker 1: the game I don't think that was a factor. I

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Speaker 1: gotta be honest with you. Yeah, me too, in shape

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Speaker 1: because they played more plays in preseason games than they

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Speaker 1: had run in the game during that sequence of players.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about what else you got? What's your next point? Um,

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Speaker 1: It's just that you know, everybody trash and Eli and

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Speaker 1: they haven't realized what he's been dealing with the last

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Speaker 1: since the Super Bowl. He didn't have no line. He

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Speaker 1: the defense ain't stepped up. And a caller yesterday was

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Speaker 1: making a point of he's tired of Eli being five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's let's change over. He's Jones is not ready.

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Speaker 1: He won't be ready. He's doing okay, but he won't.

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Speaker 1: He's not ready for every game season. I think this

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Speaker 1: way the breaks and they still don't do it. That's it.

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Speaker 1: You look, here's the thing. And a lot of people

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Speaker 1: made a big deal about Barkley and the touches, and

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Speaker 1: I'll throw this Eli stuff in with it. Those you know,

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Speaker 1: first of all, Eli played well with the game, all right,

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Speaker 1: it really did yards, sixty completion percentage, no turnovers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he played well. So here's the point. Those two things

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Speaker 1: are so low on the list of reasons why the

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Speaker 1: Giants lost that game last week. Get those are the

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Speaker 1: things we've been talking about for four or five days.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it. Well, I do understand that, but

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Speaker 1: it's still stupid. Yes, you understand it, but you don't

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Speaker 1: like it because it's just it's correct, That's right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you certainly understand it. We all do, but we're tired

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Speaker 1: of talking about it. Okay. Um, And he mentioned that

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Speaker 1: Jones is not ready, We don't you know what? Maybe

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Speaker 1: he is. I don't know. I don't know that either.

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Speaker 1: You don't know that either. Nobody knows, and nobody's gonna

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Speaker 1: know until he's in there and at the time when

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Speaker 1: it's right. The coaches have an idea of whether or

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Speaker 1: not he's ready, and certainly a lot of idea than

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Speaker 1: we do, but nobody knows for sure. And I've said

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Speaker 1: this before, I don't know if it's with you, John,

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Speaker 1: or or it's been Lance or whoever has been on

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Speaker 1: the show. And I'm I'm adamant about this. Eli Manning

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Speaker 1: will be out of this lineup, Okay. I believe it

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Speaker 1: will not be his fault. It will be the team's fault.

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Speaker 1: That's what's gonna happen, or it's gonna be by injury.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna be taking out because he's throwing for

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Speaker 1: three yards and has passing efficiency rating. If the team

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Speaker 1: is doing well, if they're not doing well, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be there's gonna be a change, Jeff. We said it

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Speaker 1: at the start of this year. It happened, So stop

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Speaker 1: asking if he's ready or he's not gonna be ready.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. He might be ready to play now,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll soon find out. Daniel Jones. What are the

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Speaker 1: two things we said was going to determine when Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones will get in the game. The first is how

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning played. The second was whether or not the

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Speaker 1: team was winning games or and both those things had

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Speaker 1: to be in effect to keep Jones off the field.

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Speaker 1: They had to win and Eli had to play well.

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Speaker 1: So there's a chance if Eli plays well, but the

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Speaker 1: team is you know, matheok. Just but if you're mathematically

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Speaker 1: eliminated in November or even late October, you're sitting there

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Speaker 1: one in six, then yeah, there's a decent chance Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones is gonna get in there. Sure, but it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be Manning's fault. That's right, that's right. And will

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Speaker 1: will Daniel Jones be ready? I don't know, you don't know,

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Speaker 1: nobody knows, nobody knows. But hell, when it's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: sooner or later other it's this year or next year,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna play soon. You just just we gotta relax,

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Speaker 1: pump the brakes on it. Let's go to c Jane Rochester.

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Speaker 1: He's been holding the longest A. C J are good?

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Speaker 1: Were great, c J. What's up? I'm I'm wanting to

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Speaker 1: know you guys really interested putting our defensive bags matching

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Speaker 1: up with their wide receivers. Uh. I like the matchup

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Speaker 1: of Jenkins against Brown, and I like I really like

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Speaker 1: the matchup of Baker against Jones. I think it provides

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Speaker 1: him a really good opportunity to get some good experience

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Speaker 1: and h Z Jones got some better play out of him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then, Um, what I'm really worried about is Um Beasley.

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Speaker 1: Beasley has always been a Giants killer on third downs,

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Speaker 1: Um Grant Haley and the slot him. I'm a big

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Speaker 1: Grant Haley fan, but that that one makes me nervous.

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Speaker 1: You see you see you look bottom line, if you

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Speaker 1: line up these Bills receivers. I'm not sure any of

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Speaker 1: them are better than the top three receivers the Giants

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Speaker 1: faced when they played Dallas last week. So but they'll

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Speaker 1: look good if they play correct. But I don't like

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Speaker 1: to use the word easy, but it's an easier matchup

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Speaker 1: for the defensive backs. Browns their speed guy. He's small,

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Speaker 1: but he's fast. He's their deep threat. Beasley's their short

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Speaker 1: area guy. They ran a lot of bunch formations to

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Speaker 1: try to free guys up with those natural rub routes.

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Speaker 1: They try to get Josh Allen some short completion to

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Speaker 1: start that game, to get him into rhythm, and that's

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Speaker 1: how they use them. I think the Giants will match

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Speaker 1: up a lot better with this group than they match

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Speaker 1: up with the Dallas group last week. I think that's fair. Yeah. Plus,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna listen. They're also gonna be They're gonna play,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna want to play better. I think Betcher is

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Speaker 1: going to coach better. The position coaches are gonna do

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Speaker 1: things their backs against the wall this week. I think

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Speaker 1: they come out play well at home, and I think,

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Speaker 1: like John said, if there's a matchup that's favorable, we

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Speaker 1: would be this week with these receivers. Absolutely. The uh.

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Speaker 1: The last thing is, I'm wondering if you guys think

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Speaker 1: conn is going to get in more this week, Jeff

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Speaker 1: does I do it pretty well while he was in

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Speaker 1: there last week, and I'm looking for him to have

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Speaker 1: a big week. Somebody appreciate. Somebody had asked I was

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Speaker 1: here a little bit early today. I got to go

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Speaker 1: out to them the coach when he talked after the

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Speaker 1: practice today, and you know, when he was somebody asked

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Speaker 1: him about that, and he said, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: would anticipate him getting a little more snaps. Is that's

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Speaker 1: what he said? Did he say that? So? Um? You

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Speaker 1: know that was paraphrasing, I guess, But the fact is

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Speaker 1: that somebody did ask him the question. He answered it,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I said, and I believe it. I

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Speaker 1: think that, you know all, it was really crazy last week.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he just started appearing in the

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Speaker 1: defensive formations like wow, okay, and he's around the football.

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Speaker 1: And I think Connley did a nice job in the

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Speaker 1: in the summer. I was very pleasantly surprised. We did

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Speaker 1: not do a lot of work on him during the

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Speaker 1: draft process. We didn't and the more I've seen him,

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Speaker 1: the more I've been impressed. So I will tell you

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Speaker 1: this from being around the game as long as I

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Speaker 1: have and being with players like a Conley, there's a guy.

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Speaker 1: There's certain guys that they're acumen. They understand football, which

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Speaker 1: maybe they may not be the most talented player, but

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Speaker 1: they understand where they have to be and how they

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Speaker 1: play the game, and they're in position to make plays.

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Speaker 1: That's him because he understands the defense. Some guy, don't

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Speaker 1: you know that? John? I mean, there's so many times

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Speaker 1: when guys have been so talented on a roster, where

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Speaker 1: do you just you know, you're dumb as a rock

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Speaker 1: and you just can't you know, you just can't rely

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Speaker 1: on your ability all the time. I'm in the move

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Speaker 1: for some energy and enthusiasm. So we gonna go a line,

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Speaker 1: why wasn't bringing it enough for you? And say thank you?

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Speaker 1: No one brings it like this guy. And that's my buddy,

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Speaker 1: big head in Maryland. What's going out? Guy? Figet? Are

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Speaker 1: you on the side of a road. Where are you at?

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Speaker 1: Hear a motorcycle? No? Actually, uh, facility the appreciation day,

639
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Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna make you great, awesome, but we'll have

640
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: fun now. I want to make sure that it's clear

641
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: clear you just said it best do you go in when?

642
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: It's not about when he's right, because he ready when

643
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: he started. It's about when it's time. When it's time.

644
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: It's just like this, that's the process was coming slow. Saw.

645
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: I love you, but you know when it's your time's time?

646
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: Past your pass soon when we get out of guys,

647
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: what's you say? Hey, biget, do me a favor. I

648
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: think I got most of that. Um, get get that

649
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: phone a little bit closer to your mouth. You're a

650
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: little bit echoe. It's kind of hard for us to

651
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: understand you. I know you're driving, so obviously you don't

652
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: break any laws. Be careful. But if you get everyone

653
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: will realize when the time is the time. Dave Gentleman

654
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: said that in the preseason everyone will know when the

655
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: time is here. It's going to be obvious and obviously

656
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: we're not there yet. What what what's your second point?

657
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: Oh man? Defense? Past defense has got to help the

658
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: rush defensh we if we held, if we held the

659
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: under sixty yards, then our past defense has got to

660
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: make up for it. It's gotta make it better. That's it.

661
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I really don't want to say much because

662
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: we just started and it has to get going. We

663
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: got to play some games and we can know what

664
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: we can do differently, come differently. Yeah, and also Giant Nation,

665
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: just pray for your big head. He lost his mom.

666
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my friend. Yeah, I'm dedicating the season. Know

667
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: my mom was a big risk fan and I respect that,

668
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: especially against the hours kicked their butts, but most importedly.

669
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: You know, man, football, it's never going to be the same. Um,

670
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough, but weren't get through. We'll get

671
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: through it. You'll get through with you guys. Man, So

672
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: you guys are here, so thank you. Yep, sorry to

673
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: hear that. All right, man, I'll be checking in on you.

674
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: You'd be safe driving up. Good, look at house to

675
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: see's listening. Good. This is a Buffalo game. We should

676
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: whip them with a major Buffalo barkley and a full

677
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: dose of Buffalo barkley and will be great. It should

678
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: be very pretty big game, big game, lovely wonderful wind.

679
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: All right, thank you man, talk so okay, thank you? Yeah, absolutely,

680
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: I just gotta warner. You got some priers with you

681
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: in your family and we appreciate the calling it. And

682
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: if you're coming to the game, by the way, stop

683
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: by MetLife Central. We'll be there from uh eleven thirty

684
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: around before the games. If you're coming to the game,

685
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: you gotta watch out for that Bills Mafia stuff. They

686
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: see the barstool sports all time with the guys jumping

687
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: off these motor homes on the tables. You've seen that stuff, John,

688
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: I do not come on, you have seen that. I'm

689
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: a very busy man, joh, go on and look at

690
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: it because it's crazy. What do they do these guys?

691
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: These I gotta win it started. I mean maybe Mackenzie

692
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: seen it before. I it's just hilarious. These guys all

693
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden they feel like they have to break

694
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: tables by jumping on them, so they jump off of

695
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: r vs, RVs, anything off of people's shoulder. He's like

696
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: wooden tables or the hardboard tables. What are there any

697
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: type any type of table you can think of? There?

698
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: The they're they're plastic one, they're they're the wood ones.

699
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: There there anything? Come on? All right? You know what?

700
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: Writing money on my computer? I gotta bring something up here.

701
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: I'll get on the phone. Okay, I'm gonna show you something.

702
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: I know that. I know that people who know what

703
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Bring it up. I'll take the next

704
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: How you have never seen this is beyond man? Maybe

705
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,239
Speaker 1: I haven't. I just don't remember. Let's go to Mike

706
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: and Road. You have my mind now, Mike, what's going on?

707
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: I have a kid. It's getting worse and worse. What's up, Mike,

708
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: That's what's the problem, Mike, what's going on? Guys? Hey,

709
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm Smithtown, Long Island. That doesn't matter

710
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: much nost time. I'm sixty seven years old. You wait

711
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: for the Giants to win again, one at a time. Mike.

712
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: Do you know how many people you're raged that root

713
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: for other teams that would pay for the Super Bowls

714
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: you've seen over the course of your life. There's a

715
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: lot of them. Listen. I listened, Man, I get it. Listen.

716
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: That doesn't get any better than two thousand seven. Okay,

717
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: all right, but listen, I want to just bring up

718
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: a couple of points here. Um. You know, I always

719
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: thought that most teams are pretty much equal, you know,

720
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, some talent is a lot you know

721
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: a little better, and you know, those teams usually win,

722
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: but you know, when you get into the NFL, all

723
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: these players are very good. So now I want to

724
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: talk about coaching. Okay, I gotta tell you, guys, I

725
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: looked at that defensive backfield and I thought Curtis romy

726
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: was playing last week. If that that was a disgrace.

727
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: It was a disgrace. And I want to know, these

728
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: guys have been practiced in all summer and they come

729
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: out on the field and they play like that. That

730
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: that that was a disgrace. Okay, And what do you

731
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: think about that? They they executed the game plan extremely poorly.

732
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean and and and and like the thing about it,

733
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: It's not like there was one mistake that was constant throughout.

734
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: You would pour tackling, you would pour technique. We talked

735
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: about Dean Jay Baker and not being able to get

736
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: a piece of the guy in the line of scrimmage.

737
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: You would missed assignments, you guys being undisciplined, being too

738
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: aggressive on play action fakes, not get back into their zone,

739
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: and you would other times the Bills, the Bills, the Cowboys,

740
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: got the Giants defensive backs and the mismatches, so you know,

741
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: there were just a lot of different issues, Jeff, that

742
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: that turned what should not have been big plays into

743
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: big plays. And and when you sit back and watch it,

744
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: it's easy for us to pick apart it it was.

745
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: It was this discrace, It really was, and the players

746
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: will tell you that too. But you know what, um,

747
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: you don't know what goes on on the field. These

748
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: guys did they did they not study that they were there,

749
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: you know they were. They're confused by what Dallas was

750
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: doing from compared to what the game plan was or

751
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: was it just mistakes? Yes, it's an accumulation of all that,

752
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure, But like I said earlier, it's game one, okay,

753
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: Unfortunately it was a division game. That's a tough one.

754
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: But you gotta move on, right it's uh as soon

755
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: as and so hopefully you see some improvement the problem

756
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: you have. If you do not see improvement, then you

757
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: know you've got a problem on your hands. And by

758
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: the way, the guys behind these guys are all young,

759
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: so it's not like you know, and John you said

760
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: it too. This was not just all young inexperienced players

761
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: making mistakes. This was veteran guys making mistakes in that

762
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: secondary too. They'll be able to quit, they'll be able

763
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: to fix it quicker than the younger guys will, and

764
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: maybe those older guys will be able to help the

765
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: younger guys to say, listen, let's spend a little bit

766
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: more time and the way in the in the classroom

767
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: and get some answers to these things so that we're

768
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: all on the same page come Sunday against the Bills. Well,

769
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I hear you, but you know,

770
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: I also think that do you need to tell me

771
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: that the coaching stap didn't think to happen? I mean

772
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: they really thought. Did the coaching stanp really think these

773
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: guys we're ready? I mean, come on, Mike, Mike, Mike,

774
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I mean, I have to think they're ready.

775
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: They told DeAndre Baker to get to to get his

776
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: hands on a Mariy Cooper and Michael Gal But the

777
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, how is it's not the coach's fault

778
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: that he didn't do what he was told. I mean,

779
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: no one told Algobo try not to drop back into

780
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: the center of the field and cover two to try

781
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: to cut off a passing lane on a deep pass

782
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: over the middle. I mean they told him to do it.

783
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean they these guys, yes, yes, they were. Wow. Okay,

784
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: listening exactly, Mike, Mike. Here's the thing, and I don't

785
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: know a lot of times fans have have trouble understanding this.

786
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: They are every team around the league practices a game

787
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: plan during the week. Whether or not that game plan

788
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: is properly executed and the end of the day is

789
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: out of the hands of the coaches. It's it's it's

790
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: on the players to do what's coached of them. And

791
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: what's the difference each week is how well the players

792
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: execute on the field, and that is the ultimate decider.

793
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: And what happens to you if you're the perfect person

794
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: to talk about this, they drill stuff into you all week.

795
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean a hill of beans if when you

796
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: get out there in game day the players don't execute

797
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: that plan. That's right, and and sometimes it does work

798
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: and sometimes it doesn't. But you have to understand something too,

799
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: that the coaches are humans too, that sometimes the game

800
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: plan has to change in in mid mid stream adjust.

801
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: That's true also, so you can plaque practice a game

802
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: plan all week and get into the game when all

803
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the defense or the offense changes, and

804
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: that's what makes the coach is good is to make

805
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: these adjustments and having smart players to make those adjustments with.

806
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't happen with young guys. It's hard, it's difficult,

807
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: and you know what, the coaches take accountability for this.

808
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: James Betcher has said, on on on on on certain occasions,

809
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: the hey, listen, I didn't call a good game. I

810
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: put them in a bad, bad play. I put them

811
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: in a bad coverage. My fault. So collectively they have

812
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: to get better. Okay, I get and I okay, we

813
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: don't have all the answers. That's the problem, man, I mean,

814
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell you I'm not happy. I

815
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: almost died when I see all those plays. But anyway,

816
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: one other thing I wanted to bring up. Do you

817
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: guys think right now the way things are with this team,

818
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: hardly any receivers, uh, the defensive backfield is very young.

819
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: They're going to give up plays, just like we said,

820
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's a natural thing. They have to learn

821
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: that that that that this team is a playoff caliber team.

822
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: Now if they're not okay, which I don't believe they

823
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: are okay, And believe me, nobody's a bigger giant fan

824
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: than me. Okay, then I think even though Manning is

825
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: not the fourth of the loss, he played a very

826
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: good game. Okay, then I think you got to bring

827
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: the young guy in. You have to bring him in. Mike.

828
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Mike, You're right, once this team in

829
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: the front office and the head coach, if and when

830
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: they come to the conclusion that this team is not

831
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: going to be a playoff team, and they're fairly certain

832
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: of it, you probably are going to see Daniel Jones

833
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: when they make when they make that decision. I have

834
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: no idea, or if it ever comes to that, I

835
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: have no idea. I know, but jeez, you know what

836
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: we have to take advantage of of Dariel Jones getting

837
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: experience and not paying him a lot of money. So

838
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: next year, next year, it won't be a disaster. Next year,

839
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: it won't be his first year. Mike. Let me ask

840
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: you something, Mike, let me ask you something. Will make

841
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: a big difference next year if he plays in six

842
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: games instead of eight games, or in eight games instead

843
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: of ten games, or those two games going to mean

844
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: the difference next year between him being good and being bad. Seriously,

845
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: probably not, But the better the more he plays well, Mike, Mike,

846
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, and I understand what you're saying.

847
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: Thanks off of the call. We appreciate it, but they

848
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: will not pull the plug on Eli Manning in September.

849
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: It's not going to happen. Yeah, I mean, it's just

850
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: not And I understand your point. It makes sense. I'm

851
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: not arguing with it. Once they determined that the playoffs

852
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: are not going to be a thing this year, and

853
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: that is so far off from now I can't even

854
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: put it into words, then they'll have those discussions. But

855
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: after one game, no or even know or even the

856
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: playoffs might be still in in graphs, but like a

857
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, far fetch, but still you know how the

858
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: things are pay the teams play until they're deliminated, right,

859
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: But the fact is is that maybe they do do

860
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: something if this playoffs are still reachable. And we don't

861
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: know the answers to this, but I will tell you

862
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: this as they the gentleman said, it will be obvious

863
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: when it's the right time. And you know what else

864
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: is obvious, and what we do have the answer for

865
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: is that they told us that Eli Manning was going

866
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: to be the starter of this year. Right, that's what

867
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: we do know, So we don't know anything other than that.

868
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: And if Eli he'll continues to play well, and the

869
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: narrative is what we just said. If all of sudden

870
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: the team is really bad but Eli is playing well,

871
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna make a change, but we don't know

872
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: that until then. Can we please stop talking about it.

873
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen until it happens. And I listen,

874
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: I get what everybody wants to say about it, but

875
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: we don't have any say what they either. Do you

876
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna You're just gonna have to live through this.

877
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: And we've been saying the same thing for five months

878
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: since since they drafted the kid Eli playing well, the

879
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: team winning games, the timetable for that, and when it's

880
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: gonna happen, nobody knows. They're doing it by feel, they'll

881
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: no one. They know it'll be obvious when you know what,

882
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be obvious tomorrow September. Okay, So can

883
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: we table these until at least the end of the month. No?

884
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: Can we please? Please? But here's the thing, John and

885
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: we got it. We under John and I we under

886
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: by the way, it's probably not gonna happen in October either.

887
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: If it's gonna happen, ain't to tell you, but at

888
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: least I'll understand fielding the calls them depending on the

889
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: team's record, can we at least not it's can you

890
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: give me two or three weeks? Please? No more? Okay,

891
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's go to it in Florida. He's

892
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: up next, Hi, Ian, Hey, what's going on? How are

893
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: you just a couple of points? Um? This this Eli

894
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: thing is ridiculous. It just it just it just shows

895
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: you the poison that comes out of the media. Because

896
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: I'm watching the game with my sixty seven year old

897
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: father and he's just like put In Jones, And a

898
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: friend of mine, who is a Dolphins fan, looks at

899
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: him and goes, ELI is not the reason why we're

900
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: You're losing that game. How they have they work people's

901
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: minds anyway? UM, I just wanted to talk about the coaching. UM.

902
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I've lost confidence, but I'm

903
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: starting to lose it in our coaching because of just

904
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: the in agreeance with the past callers that you know,

905
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: there's no in game adjustments. They're they're not able to adapt. Um.

906
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: The third downs are killing. We can't get off the field. Now,

907
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: I understand you can chalk it up to mistakes and

908
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: youth and uh, possibly not following the game plan, assuming

909
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: that it is a good game plan in real quick,

910
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: real quick. And here's the thing. If the mistake was

911
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: the same thing all over again and again and again

912
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: and again that was getting you, then I understand saying well, look,

913
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: you left you know, this defensive back on this receiver

914
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: and he just got killed time and time again and

915
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: man to man and they didn't make any changes. Yeah,

916
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: I'd be with you. I'd be like, all right, yeah,

917
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: you didn't make any adjustments the three and three or

918
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: three of their big places. No, But Ian, here's the thing.

919
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: When DeAndre Baker got beat there a man, the jarwing

920
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: pass over the middle of zone, the cod pass over

921
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: the middle was a different type of zone. So that's

922
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: three different types of defenses that you were playing. That

923
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: allowed three of the four of the big plays that

924
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: fans are upset about. So those are different things that

925
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: that plays that the coaching staff is calling. They're not

926
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: just doing the same thing over and over again and

927
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: getting the same results. The players literally made mistakes running

928
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: different schemes over the course of the game. You know

929
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right right, it just seems that things

930
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: are starting to become a tendency though a pattern, and uh,

931
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: there's no correcting of them. For instance, we stopped them

932
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: on their opening drive. We come down and looked like

933
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: all world on our opening drive and then that was it.

934
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: Then they just made adjustments, turn on the gas, scored

935
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: five straight touchdowns. We did nothing but I And here's

936
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: the thing. Even though we did move the ball, we

937
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: did move the ball, but it just seems like we're

938
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: just I don't know. And here's the thing, real quick,

939
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: you're assuming the Cowboys made adjustments. Do you remember why

940
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: the Giants got off the field on the Cowboys first

941
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: drive of the games? You remember what happened on the

942
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: on the third and four when the Cowboys had to

943
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: punt Amari Cooper, no A, Marii Cooper was wide freaking

944
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: open on a crossing pattern and Dak Prescott through it

945
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: three yards short for no reason. So it's not like

946
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: the Giants made a great play on defense. The Cowboys

947
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: just didn't execute properly. So it's not like it's not

948
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys coaches said hey, Dak, I know he

949
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: didn't realize that before the game, but don't throw the

950
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: past three yards short of the wide receiver. It wasn't

951
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: an adjustment. The guys just played better. And sometimes it's

952
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: just a matter of the guy's plan. It's like it's

953
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: like in these NBA games. Right in basketball, teams will

954
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: go down by twenty routinely in the first half. Okay,

955
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: sometimes the shots just don't fall all of a sudden,

956
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: two or three guys got hot from three, they go

957
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: on a fourteen fifteen all run. You know, it's not

958
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 1: the coaches saying, hey, you know what, you guys should

959
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: really start making your shots. That's that's my adjustment. No,

960
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: sometimes the shots just start to fall. I mean, the

961
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: coaches are telling the players what they're doing wrong and

962
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: not to make these mistakes. They can't, you know, magically

963
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: telekinetically get into these players heads and control them from

964
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: the sidelines. Eventually, it's up to DeAndre Baker to get

965
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: your hands on the wide receiver at the line of scrimmage.

966
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: They're telling him to do it. He has to do it.

967
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Let me go ahead, make you make valid points. And

968
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: I undertotally understand that. But when things just start becoming

969
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: a pattern. You're seeing it over and over again. And

970
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, you hear a lot of other coaching staffs,

971
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: a lot of coaching staffs are a complementary of other

972
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: teams coaching staffs. I don't hear that those compliments being

973
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: steered towards Betcher, towards Sherman, and I just I'm just,

974
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: like I said, I haven't lost it because it's the

975
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: youngest week one. I'm not overreacting. And I do think

976
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: we have a lot of talent. I love what gentleman

977
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: is doing. I love the team. I just I'm just

978
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: starting to lose the faith, you know what I mean.

979
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: Here's thank you. Appreciate Yeah, thank you, and listen. All

980
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: of your points are good guys, and we just you know,

981
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: we have our opinions too. And here's the one thing

982
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: you have to understand about this defense right now. Yeah,

983
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: and be clear, by the way, the Giant's defense was

984
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: terrible last week. No one's arguing that, And it's a

985
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: perfect segment for what I'm gonna say. Do you know

986
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: the back end of the defense? How many people are

987
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: still there from last year one. Genoa's Jenkins is the

988
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: only returning player from that back into the defense. You

989
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: gotta get two of you count Grant Haley, but that's it. Well, okay,

990
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: but he okay, let's count Grant anyway because he's he's

991
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: he's a star arder so much. Okay, there is a

992
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: time when these guys have to learn and understand how

993
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 1: to play next to each other. Jabrill Peppers came from Cleveland, Antoine,

994
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: but they from Arizona. You've got guys. You've got You've

995
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: got Corey Valentine, You've got DeAndre Baker, get a lot

996
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: of different people back there. I guess it's an excuse.

997
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: I can guess. I could say it's an excuse, but

998
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: it's reality in a sense. But you gotta correct it quick. Okay.

999
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: You only have so much time to play together back there,

1000
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: and then you gotta get this stuff done correctly. Okay, Yes,

1001
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: there you go, and it's one game. If we see

1002
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: these same mistakes, continuing to happy about what he is saying,

1003
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: then we can have the conversation. Any group, especially in

1004
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: the first game together, kind of troubles and have issues.

1005
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: It happens to every team in the league. Now this continues,

1006
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: that's correct, But I don't want to defend him that

1007
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: they had that. That's the really like, that's that's like, okay,

1008
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: we're just gonna give him a pass for that. It

1009
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: was a division game, it was the first game of

1010
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: the season. You gotta win now this If it's all

1011
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: about winning, right, folks play better and having free runners

1012
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: thirty yards down the field, there's there is never a

1013
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: legitimate reason for that to happen. I would, yes, listen,

1014
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm okay with your if we're within a yard or

1015
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: two of the guy and you're at least you're at

1016
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: leasing the right coverage right, and you just got beat.

1017
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: But when there's free runners, that's mental airs. Those cost

1018
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: you game, just like penalties. Do understand that. Let's let's

1019
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 1: cut down on those this week. Both penalties too. Giants

1020
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: for penalized a lot last week too. I love how

1021
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: our screeners now don't even bother writing down where this

1022
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: call is from Charlie. Apparently we don't. It's just Charlie.

1023
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: Let's go to Charlie. Hi, Charlie, what's going on? Just

1024
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: putting mate on there, that's all. Hey, Jeff, don't be

1025
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: surprised if you're not narrowed down to Oh, I forgot

1026
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: to say thank you, Charlie. Then ye Jeff officially on

1027
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: the whole of Fame ballot. Congratulations, Jeff, thank you. I,

1028
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: like I've always said, as long as I make it

1029
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: on the ballot, I'm pretty good with that. That's about

1030
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: as far as it's gonna go. But I appreciate that.

1031
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's the process to get on

1032
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: the ballot. I have no idea where you maybe, well,

1033
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: maybe some more. Look what happened the last time you

1034
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: sent loft Is I got on the ballot. Maybe you

1035
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: should send some more. Maybe I'll get to the next Um.

1036
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: I think I don't know, John. I know that you

1037
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: have to be out of the league for five years,

1038
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: which I checked that box and UM, I did see

1039
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: it yesterday. Somebody sent it to me and told me,

1040
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: and I think there was I think there was four

1041
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: or five punters on there. No, Shan Lindetta was on there.

1042
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: Matt Turk was on there, which is what I was

1043
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: surprised about. Um. Reggie Roby was another guy that was

1044
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: on there, and so and myself. So pretty good. Yeah,

1045
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Listen. I've always said if I if I'm

1046
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: mentioned in the Hall of Fame and I'm on the ballot.

1047
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm just happy to be there. Congratulations, thank

1048
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: you there. I appreciate that. I looked at it and

1049
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: I you know, I tried to figure people. I'm sunny.

1050
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: You get a shot to be in the thank you listen.

1051
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: If I'm part of that, then then we might have

1052
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: to start talking a little bit more, because that's that's

1053
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: getting close. Then. Right now, right now, I'm like in

1054
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: an inner tube in the sea. I'm just floating out there.

1055
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: You never know, you know, I want to turn into

1056
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: a ship. Soon. Once I turned into a ship, things

1057
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: are gonna start happening. So what's up? What's up? Chuckles?

1058
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: What do you got for us today? I just want

1059
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: to say, look, with all those are mistakes that happened.

1060
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: If it was just the young guys, it wasn't okay.

1061
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: But it was the veterans. That's right. Me. It has

1062
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: to be the scheme. Veecher has got to simplify his scheme.

1063
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't have he doesn't have his Arizona team anymore,

1064
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't players. He's got a simplify. But what I

1065
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: was going to say, now that we have no wide receivers,

1066
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: what we need to do just like you were saying,

1067
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo puts his the pull back our wide and they

1068
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: put his tight end out. Why we gotta do the

1069
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: same thing. We could have put Ingram in there as

1070
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: a wide receiver out wide, and we have to put

1071
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: Barkley on the out wide on the other You know what,

1072
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: You're right, evaning Ram definitely didn't do enough in that

1073
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: first game. He didn't play well at all. Um, you know,

1074
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't involving probably him two catches for four yards.

1075
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: Right now, you don't have wide receiver record and Sheppard

1076
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: and you know what, d J. Jones who has been

1077
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: hasn't even you know, has been out of le for

1078
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: a few weeks. You gotta utilize your best players, and

1079
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: you've got to put them as as whiteouts. You got

1080
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: to use Barkley as a whiteout, bringing Gallman or Perkins

1081
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: in the backfield. Put Barkley out there, make him a

1082
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Make Ingram a wide receiver bringing two tight ends,

1083
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: and and run that, Charlie, Why would you rather have

1084
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: Ingram lined up as a wide receiver running routes against

1085
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: our backs? And running routes is that tight end against

1086
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: linebackers and safeties? I don't understand. Hey, look if he doesn't,

1087
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, he can do a slot. He can. You

1088
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: don't have to just one straight down the field. You

1089
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 1: can cut and go, you know, don't give up. Don't

1090
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: give up. It's players, guys. You got to utilize your

1091
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: best players. You can't utilize. But I can see where

1092
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: you're coming from in a sense, all right, especially against

1093
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: a defense like the Bills. All right, and you and

1094
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: one of your best players is out of the lineup,

1095
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: and Sterling Shepard one of your deeper threats. So mix

1096
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: it up a little bit, so I don't have a

1097
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: problem if you want to put Evan ingram In in

1098
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: in a wide receiver set, right, but not all the time.

1099
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: Put him out there maybe once or twice just to

1100
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: change it up. But he can make enough place from

1101
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: where he does normally, and so can and by the way,

1102
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: binding a Barkley outside of something they do normally. But

1103
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: you also want him in the backfield to challenge them

1104
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: with the run. If we're gonna have to do some

1105
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: different things, we can't do the same scheme the Shoela

1106
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: does every freaking game. And now we're going to rely

1107
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: on the wide receivers who are fourth, fifth, and six guys, Charlie,

1108
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: what was wrong with this, Charlie? What was wrong with

1109
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: the scheme? Last week? With the team at almost three

1110
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: to fifty yards through three quarters? What was wrong with

1111
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: the scheme? Yet there we had Shepherd out there, We

1112
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: had different guys. We don't have them now. Still didn't

1113
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: make any difference because we couldn't school and we needed

1114
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: to school. That should have been the answer when your

1115
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: first answer, because we talked to at the top of

1116
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: the show, what the Giants got to do better? They

1117
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: gotta be better on third down and better in the

1118
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: red zone. And take those four d seventy or something

1119
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: yards that they that they piled on last year. Last

1120
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: week against the Dallas Cowboys, that's a pretty good defense.

1121
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: They're not as good as the Bills defense, but they should.

1122
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: You know, if they're gonna put that much mile of John,

1123
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: you gotta put some points on but third days, at

1124
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: one point time they were over five in the game.

1125
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: I think it was in the third quarter. So they

1126
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: gotta play better and that in those are the statistics

1127
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: you have to improve on. And time of possession. We

1128
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys rural time of possession. It's just the

1129
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: way that they play there. There was almost twenty to

1130
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: ten in the first half of that game. And that

1131
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: that has the Giants offense, by the way, that's the

1132
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: Giants defense getting off the field. Yeah, and those guys

1133
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: talk about third downs, they were they were just very

1134
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: successful at a high rate on third down. The Cowboys

1135
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: were Don in Texas, Son, what's hey, John and Jeff?

1136
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: Are you doing great? Don? What's up? I'm sure you

1137
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: did not have a good week down there. Oh it

1138
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: was terrible. Then, it was absolutely horrible. That's why I'm

1139
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: calling on a Friday, because I needed my emotions to

1140
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: come down a little bit before before I get into everything.

1141
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: Like I was really calling to follow up basically on

1142
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: what Ian was saying. Yes, but I want to go

1143
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: back to the Cowboys game, in the Giants game, and

1144
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: in every game. Okay, I'm not gonna say this one

1145
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: play is what caused it, But in every game there

1146
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: is a play or a lack of play that turns

1147
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: the tide of the entire game. And I'm surprised nobody

1148
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: mentioned it all week. On the first drive, the John

1149
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: forced them to punt. The second drive, the Giant scored

1150
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: a touchdown on the on the Cowboys next drive, ogil

1151
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: Tree dropped an interception right in his hands at the

1152
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: thirty that could have turned the tide of the games.

1153
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: A great point. That's great point. That that right there

1154
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: could have either put them up ten or fourteen nothing,

1155
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: and it could have changed the entire complexion of that game.

1156
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: But because there was a lack of play, what did

1157
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: they proceed to do. It led to a march right

1158
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: down the field and they could not stop the bleeding

1159
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: from that point. So that is one of those things

1160
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: that really led to the downhill when ogil Tree dropped

1161
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: that interception. Great point, A great point, no argument at all.

1162
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: You can't mean listen, momentum in football is a huge,

1163
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: huge And by the way, that was a second and

1164
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: four play on Dallas is thirty one yard line, so correct,

1165
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: So you get the ball, if he gets a little

1166
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: bit of return, you're starting in the in the Giants

1167
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: in the Cowboys red zone there and you already have

1168
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: a seven nothing lead. It could change the whole ten

1169
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: or of the game. You could not be more right,

1170
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: great point, that's correct, thank you. And before I get

1171
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: into one other thing, I wanted to talk about what

1172
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: I was really calling basic le Ian talked about it.

1173
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: There there seems to be a pattern with Shermer, and

1174
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: it's not about the xs and ohs, and I just

1175
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: want your take on it, especially Jeff playing the game

1176
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: for so long, watching Shermer since his days in Cleveland,

1177
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: his emotions seemed to affect the way he coaches on

1178
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: a game since his days in Cleveland, since last year

1179
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: when he went for it on fourth and one on

1180
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: their own forty against the Cowboys, then punting it on

1181
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: fourth and one on the fifty not using three time

1182
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: outs before this is I'm talking about last year. Now

1183
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: this year, there's another thing that shows me that I

1184
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: don't I'm starting to have my doubts in Shermer as well.

1185
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: Why would you throw the red flag at the end

1186
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: of the first half either too for that passive past interference. Now,

1187
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: his explanation after the game was, I wanted to make

1188
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: a point. So here's my issue with that. You either

1189
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: through the red flag because you didn't know the rule,

1190
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: or two, you were completely coaching out of emotion, and

1191
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: you are the one. Yeah, you can be emotional, but

1192
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: you have to be in check because your players are

1193
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: gonna follow that. And if you start using that they're

1194
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: going to follow that. Well, well, real quick, real quick,

1195
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: real real quick. I just want to tell you I

1196
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: I I spoke to people that were on the sideline,

1197
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: absolutely new the role, and he just made the point

1198
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: that And if you take a look at it on

1199
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: Coaches STA if you didn't see it on TV on

1200
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: the Helm Mary play, the cowboy defender grabs Cody Latimer

1201
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: inside his helmet and pulls him down from behind, and

1202
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: he says, look, I know I can't challenge I know

1203
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: it's not revealable, but he just thought that was something

1204
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: that needed to be looked at. And that's the point

1205
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: he was trying to make. That you can argue whether

1206
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: or not the right when you do that is is

1207
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 1: by throwing the red flag. And that's a fair point.

1208
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue that. I can just tell you

1209
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: for sure he didn't know did in fact know the rule.

1210
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: And it's not like he was out of control emotionally

1211
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: just doing stuff because he was mad. That's not what happened.

1212
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: But now, Jeff, go ahead, I'm sorry. Now that's okay.

1213
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: I think I know what you're gonna ask me, But

1214
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 1: go ahead, I think I know what your go ahead

1215
00:58:53,480 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: what was your question the payer? Okay, watching that, now,

1216
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: look how fast it turned on Macado. I would love

1217
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: to set to see Shermer coaching with a little more urgency.

1218
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: As a player, how do you be be objective here?

1219
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: How do you how do you feel watching your coach

1220
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: doing that and you're losing and you're just bad? Well, listen,

1221
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: I I hopefully he has a good reason to do it. Okay,

1222
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: so some guys probably didn't even see it. They went

1223
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: in the locker room. It's over. The other thing is

1224
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: is that I gotta have confidence in my coach that

1225
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: what he's doing is the reason he's doing it is

1226
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: the right thing, right, so he said after the game,

1227
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: maybe some of the guys ELI or somebody might have

1228
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: asked him, it's half time, coach, why did you throw

1229
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: the red flag? I doubt it. That doesn't really happen.

1230
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: There isn't too many people that will actually go up

1231
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: to the coach and say, coach, why did you throw

1232
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: that red flag? You know the rule? Right? So don't

1233
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: players like when when when the head coach gets on

1234
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: the officials when they think they're getting hose? Though? I

1235
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: think they like that, don't they? They do? But there

1236
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: comes a point in time, like you said, is when

1237
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: players lose faith in the coaches when things aren't working anymore.

1238
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: That's what happened to Macado. Players just they didn't respect

1239
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: the guy anymore because it's just nothing was working. Now.

1240
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't I think this is way too early to

1241
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,439
Speaker 1: have that type of thought if you're a player, because

1242
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: they're trying to correct things right now. They're in the

1243
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: kind of a rebuilding mode, so that most of the

1244
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: players give this coach a little bit of a pass

1245
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: at the time. But let me tell you something, eventually,

1246
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: when things just if the losses keep piling up and

1247
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: piling up, then players eventually lose faith in their coach

1248
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: no matter what they're trying to do. Throw the red

1249
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: flag like that. I don't know, it's just there's there's

1250
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of things that has to be said about this.

1251
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: I agree. And one last point guys before I take

1252
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: it off. Okay, So if you could explain to me, guys,

1253
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: how does this work? Like Minka Fitzpatrick has now gotten

1254
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: permission with his agent to seek a trade, like Jadaveon

1255
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: Clowney was able to do that. How does that work?

1256
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: Is that something that's going to be brought up in

1257
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: the in the next players off season, because I truly

1258
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: believe there's going to be a strike very soon with

1259
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: the Player Association going on. So how does that go

1260
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,959
Speaker 1: that an agent could request that trade, because I would

1261
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: love to have an agent didn't. Okay, an agent didn't

1262
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: request that. The team gives you you're not allowed to

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Speaker 1: contact other players when you're under contract for another team.

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Speaker 1: The whole point of the GM giving the agent permission

1265
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: is that the agent will then talk to general managers

1266
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: around the league. The general managers will tell the agent, well,

1267
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: we'd be willing to give up X, Y and Z

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01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: for the player, and then the agent will take that

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01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: offer to the Dolphins to see if that's enough, or

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the team told the agent, look, we're looking

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Speaker 1: for a one in the three. Anything less less than that,

1272
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Speaker 1: don't waste your time. The agent will then call around

1273
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: seeing if you can find somebody to give up a

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Speaker 1: one in the three. And we were always told by

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Speaker 1: the coaches. You heard they've heard them say like, okay, listen,

1276
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm not we're not allowed to speak about other players

1277
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: that are under contract with other teams. When somebody's talking

1278
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: about Hey, you know you're now you need a receiver?

1279
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,479
Speaker 1: Would you be interested in trading for X? They can't

1280
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: say yes or no until you know. So that's where

1281
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: the agents and it's a good analogy what John said,

1282
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: that's what happens. The Dolphins are a prime example of

1283
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: this because they're just cutting bait with everything over there,

1284
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: you know there's I mean, then do they even want

1285
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: to win a football game? They they've already given away

1286
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: the farm anyway. But they've gotten some good the last

1287
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: trade they got. They won that trade, don't you think

1288
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: they got a great return and a too and and

1289
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: a couple of players. And I'm sure they'll be looking

1290
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: for at least a number one for Fitzpatrick. Yeah, because

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01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: he's a good player. Absolutely absolutely. Bigo Live is presented

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Speaker 1: by Corps Light Enter to win the ultimate v I

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Speaker 1: I P to nine oh four six four for more details.

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Speaker 1: Were a little over, folks, So um, let's try to

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Speaker 1: get these last two calls in kind of quickly. Lenning

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Speaker 1: Columbia Mari Lango ahead, Hey, hey, hey, how you doing guys? Good? Lenning,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Good? Hey? Jeff, congratulations, thank you sir, thank

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01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: you very much. Hey, listen home open us Sunday, looking

1300
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: forward to it. No reason we shouldn't win this game.

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01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm confident. Um, I think the key is gonna be

1302
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: our ten or twelve best players are core players have

1303
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: to play well and I feel like we I feel

1304
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: like they will and uh, you know, ten or twelve

1305
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: of our of course starters now and I'm I'm throwing

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01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: Ela on that list. Um. You know, if he plays

1307
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: like he did last week, gives us that yard and

1308
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: get what we get a touchdown pass out of him. Um,

1309
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, he's done his job. And um, but I

1310
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be you know, our better players who

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01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: were going to make a difference, and I think we

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01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: win this game. Um, John, I you know, I'll take

1313
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: your word for it, But I mean, does DeAndre Baker

1314
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: really just blow off the defensive backfield coach that way?

1315
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: It's not gonna I mean, it isn't even blowing and

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01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: not do what the coach said. No, it isn't blowing

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01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: him off. He might have intended to do it, but

1318
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: it's it's a physical mistake, not pressing at the line

1319
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. As much of it's is it a mental mistake.

1320
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: He was in the position to press. He just didn't

1321
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: do a good job at the line of scrimmage. He

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01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: didn't his fundamentals broke down. And what happens when you

1323
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: when fundamentals break down, then you didn't You have to

1324
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: just go back and play like just rely on what

1325
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: you do best and that and by that time you're beat.

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01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: You can't do anything. Well, maybe you pull him off

1327
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: the field and say, son, sit down and watch for

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01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, but who are you going to replace

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01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: him with better? I want to use this an example. Jeff.

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01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: A coach might tell you, Jeff, go kick it in

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01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: the corner. You go and pump the ball. It goes

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01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. It's not because you're

1333
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: not trying to kick it in the corner or you

1334
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 1: just didn't execute it properly. It happens. This is very

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01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: early in the in the season, obviously, but I'm going

1336
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: to bring this point up and just see what you

1337
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: guys think about this, and I think it will get

1338
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: better as the season goes on. UM we lost our

1339
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: defensive backfield coach very late in the off season. He

1340
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: went to Cincinnati to to to become the defense then

1341
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: am I right on that. That's a fact. Okay, Um,

1342
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, some coaches are better than others. I'm not

1343
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: suggesting our defense. Some backfield coaches don't belong in the

1344
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: NFL or anything like that, but I think it takes

1345
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: a little time and even the communication between Betcher and

1346
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: his defensive backfield coaches. I'd watch for that in the

1347
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: future if if this doesn't get any better, then we

1348
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: start coming down on the coaches. Um, but I'm I was.

1349
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: I was almost shocked that that guy left that late.

1350
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's entitled to do that. I mean, you,

1351
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: defensive Fortunat, he hired their head coach very late in

1352
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: the game, and he grabbed this guy. He was a

1353
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: pretty good he's a pretty good coach, and I think

1354
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: with these young players, I think it takes time for

1355
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: the coaches to be able to communicate with him, and

1356
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: everybody's style is different. But hey, listen, I'm watching for

1357
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: that as the season progresses. And I'm not saying it

1358
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: has to get dramatically better on Sunday. I'm just saying

1359
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: as it goes forward, Um, things need to get better

1360
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: in that defensive backfield. Hey, look, I really think we're

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01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 1: gonna win this game. Let's go Giants, and uh, you know,

1362
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: looking forward, it's gonna be a lot of fun, gonna

1363
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: be a beautiful day, and um let's go beat the Bills.

1364
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: We talked on Monday, we wanted one. Hey, guys, thanks

1365
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: for taking my call right, thank you. I appreciate Adam

1366
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: and Columbus will wrap us up today. Ad Hey, guys,

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01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: how you doing. What's up? Thanks? Hey a couple yeah,

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01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: no problems, Thanks for having me. A couple of quick

1369
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: observations done a quick question. Um I thought, hey, Davis

1370
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: made some nice plays, nice plays and coverage. Connolly made

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: a tackle for a loss where he looked like he

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01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: was shot out of a cannon, which was nice to

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01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: see him flash like that. That was that was encouraging. Um.

1374
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: I had some flashbacks of the season opener in Dallas

1375
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: four or five years ago when Robo fumbled and then

1376
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: bobbled a shotgun snap and then stood up with that

1377
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: survey the field for four or five seconds, it witting

1378
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: in the end zone for a comeback. That was a

1379
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: little flashback there because we couldn't get anywhere near Prescott

1380
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: and that's what made you think of it. But I

1381
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: have some friends here in Ohio who really followed the

1382
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: Max schools acron O, U, Toledo and and they were

1383
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: saying that I don't know how to pronounce his name.

1384
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: I assume it's two Zar. Skipper is one of the

1385
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: guys they really liked to watch when they were watching

1386
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: in the college, and they they seemed to be pretty

1387
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: high up on him, So it'd be interesting to see

1388
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: if maybe he could help get something going. But my

1389
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: question is on the third and one where there were

1390
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: twelve men on the field and then they picked up

1391
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: the flag and said Dallas had got the time out off.

1392
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: One of the things I heard, and I think I

1393
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: even heard it on the Blue kickoff earlier in the week.

1394
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: And one of the things I thought, I think I

1395
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: heard from a commentator at the game was it looked

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: like we showed a play. And one of the things

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01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: I think I noticed is that it there was the

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01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: same fullback dive to Penny that we ran on the

1399
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: third and one uh later in the game prior to

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01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: Eli Manning rolling out and getting sacked by Vanderest And

1401
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: I thought for myself, man if if indeed we did

1402
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: show the play, and people seem to think that we

1403
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: did Is that a bit of a tip off? And

1404
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: then the other question I added on that third and

1405
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: one or in those plays where we gotta get a yard,

1406
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: is the right side out of the line, the side

1407
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 1: we we we think we're most comfortable. If I would

1408
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: have fought kind of her name's folder, were you know

1409
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: where we really felt comfortable when you gotta have that yard?

1410
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: But it looked maybe like we win a different direction there.

1411
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: So I was just wondering, maybe that's something that early

1412
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: in the season the coaches haven't really made their final

1413
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: decisions on and at the moment, obviously that's what they thought.

1414
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: Or if we think in the future that that one

1415
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: desperate yard will go to the other direction or maybe

1416
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: to a running back with number twenty six on this

1417
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: jersey next time, I don't have no adam. That's fair.

1418
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: And look, if you want to talk about not getting

1419
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: into barking those spots, I get it. Thanks for the call, Um.

1420
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: I have no problem running behind Zeitler and Remers. I

1421
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 1: think Remors is probably a more powerful player than Solder

1422
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 1: Soldier is probably a better pass protector, and Kevin Zeisler

1423
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: is a tank. So I have no issue running behind

1424
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler, I really don't um are the numbers. The

1425
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: left side is where they run, is it okay? I

1426
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: like the pro football Folcus, they had the run, it

1427
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: was the left side was the most and on that

1428
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: played to Penny. By the way, Titler and Hawapeo actually

1429
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: got the push they needed up the middle. The Marcus

1430
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: Lawrence got down the line a little bit on Reremor's

1431
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: and got Penny around the legs. Otherwise he would have

1432
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: gotten the two yards. But that was that play. Whether

1433
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: or not that did look to me like the play

1434
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: that got it got shown a little bit on that

1435
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: play that the officials totally bossed it, which, by the way, guys,

1436
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: you know may I always defend the officials on the show.

1437
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: I never want to blame the officiating on things like this.

1438
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: That was a poorly officiated a couple of plays. Because

1439
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: the minute of the defense has twelve men on the

1440
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: field and you're center has his hand on the football.

1441
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: That's a flag period period. So that should have been

1442
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: a penalty. Number one, Number two, that should not have

1443
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: been intentional grounding because Eli was either getting hit or

1444
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: eminently getting hit and the pass was within five to

1445
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: six yards of Barkley. So both of those were bad calls.

1446
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: In that series of calls did change the tenor of

1447
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: the game. And I think the biggest it was a

1448
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: flag throne. There was twelve men on the field and

1449
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 1: then they picked it up because they said it was

1450
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: the time out. Jeff, anything you want to have before

1451
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: they go by, no, I just think that. My My

1452
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: big takeaway for this game is the Giants got to

1453
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: find a way to win so they can get back

1454
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: to one and one, because when you dig yourself a

1455
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: hole at oh and two, it doesn't get any better.

1456
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: And then you're going to look at the schedule. You've

1457
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: got Tampa Bay in the division, I mean, excuse me,

1458
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: in the conference, and then a division game the following week,

1459
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: so um, pretty crazy. The schedule is it's away, home away, home, away, home, away,

1460
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 1: home away home. There are two home games in a

1461
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: row at the end, Washington Minnesota September October. By the way,

1462
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: I do hope you get closer to the Hall of Fame,

1463
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 1: only because then I'm gonna start considering those guys, you know,

1464
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: kind of like quasi teammates of you, and I can

1465
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: create a whole nonther trivia game for them. Well, by

1466
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: the way, I did count yesterday of the hundred and

1467
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: twenty two that are on there. How many did you

1468
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: play with? From what I remember? But I did go

1469
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: through there esterday and count them, and I thought that

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Speaker 1: was pretty good. I mean, twenty four of my teammates

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Speaker 1: are on that hundred two lists, which is that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I think so, um out of all of them that

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Speaker 1: are on there. I don't know who's gonna make it, obviously,

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Speaker 1: but that was a pretty It's pretty good. There were

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Speaker 1: some guys in there that I totally you know, had

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Speaker 1: forgotten that I played with them. Jeff, good stuff, man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're Johnny all right. So we'll see you guys this weekend. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we'll see on Sunday. Stay tuned to w f Fan

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: in New York at eleven thirty for our pregame show.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you tune in. If you go into the game,

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Speaker 1: come to MetLife CenTra will be out there from eleven

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Speaker 1: thirty to twelve thirty. Lands loves meeting the fans. He

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01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: loves it. It's one of his favorite things to do.

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Speaker 1: So make sure you go and you say hi. And

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01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: Jeff actually does enjoy talking to people. Will be there too,

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Speaker 1: and you can hear it all on w Fan in

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Speaker 1: New York as well, and Paul and I will be

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01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: down there at some point in the pregame show. After

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: it's Bob and Carl out to play by play as

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Speaker 1: the Giants celebrate their hundred years in the NFL or

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01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: the hundred years of the NFL that John's obviously, and

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 1: the over sixty players will be there. They announced the

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01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: four greatest plays in Giants history at halftime, a couple

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01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: of special guests ringing the bell, one guy that hasn't

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Speaker 1: been here in a while that I think fans will

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Speaker 1: be excited about. I don't know if I'm not to

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Speaker 1: give who it is because I'm yelled at and that's it.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see over the weekend and we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you then, Audios,