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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it is the Bark Tank. We are presented

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Speaker 1: by Sugardale, and I am in the home office here.

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Speaker 1: It's the off season. There is no off season. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: it's andrews Cicilli. I dono thank you for joining what

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Speaker 1: is officially an off season episode of The Bark Tank.

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Speaker 1: As we used to say, as I think every one

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Speaker 1: of the NFL says, when you're asked, hey, how's your

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Speaker 1: off season? Call me when the off season begins. There

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Speaker 1: For a lot of the support staff who have to

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Speaker 1: Campus or any of the other thirty one buildings before

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Speaker 1: training camp, that window shrinks from like three and a

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Speaker 1: and as we record this, we're a couple of days

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Speaker 1: away from the conference championship games, there is no off season.

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Speaker 1: Next week, for example, yours truly, the Bark Tank and

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Speaker 1: the Browns content team will be on the road at

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Speaker 1: the Reese's Senior Bowl. The seventy six. If memory serves,

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Speaker 1: Reese's Senior Bowl will be there all week because the

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Speaker 1: Browns will be there all week, notably Bubba Van Trone,

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Speaker 1: Brown's assistant head coach and special teams coordinator. He will

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Speaker 1: be coaching head coach one of the two teams, which

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Speaker 1: will be invaluable. Invaluable for Brown's player evaluation ahead of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. Last year, there were forty plus. Actually

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Speaker 1: I have the number right here, Andrew, go back to

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Speaker 1: your email last year at the Senior Bowl. Just looking

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Speaker 1: ahead to the draft, as the Browns have double digit

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Speaker 1: draft picks, one hundred and ten players were selected out

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Speaker 1: of the Reese's Senior bowlpool. Now that includes players who

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Speaker 1: but were in mobile. Jim Naggy puts together a great

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Speaker 1: will be there. The bar Tank will be there, and

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Speaker 1: not only will Boba been Tron be there as a

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Speaker 1: head coach, but Brown's d line coach and he did

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Speaker 1: a great job. Not only obviously you had Miles Garrett's,

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Speaker 1: Darius Smith and Dalvin Tomlinson and Obo the rookies up there.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry the veterans up there, but he did a

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Speaker 1: great job developing the younger guys like rookie might call

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Speaker 1: like rookie Juwan Briggs, and like Isaiah McGuire, who in

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Speaker 1: his second year really came on and received a top

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Speaker 1: of it at least, and they're looking at these guys

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna be some interesting players, not just players

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Speaker 1: we will be there. Look for those bar Tank episodes

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Speaker 1: next week. The reason we're doing this special pod today

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Speaker 1: is that the Browns have their new offensive coordinator. It

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Speaker 1: is official official, It is Tommy Reese, who was last

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Speaker 1: that at his alma modern Notre Dame. You remember Tommy

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Speaker 1: Reese started like forty games as Notre Dame quarterback, won

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Speaker 1: He years ago got his teeth or sharpened his teeth,

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Speaker 1: got his feet wet whatever, I'm mixing metaphors here. As

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Speaker 1: Now you got to be player specific, and Reese hammered

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Speaker 1: It feels like you're going back to what got you

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Speaker 1: Mike Bloomgren here in his run game. They ran more

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Speaker 1: when you know they were running power eighteen times in

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Speaker 1: Came in last year as mentioned from Alabama, and that

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Speaker 1: who called plays last year in New Orleans, and Kevin

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Speaker 1: the point I'm bearing the lead. Kevin stefanskis calling plays again.

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Speaker 1: and that feels right as I'm sitting here not trying

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Speaker 1: he handed those responsibilities over to Ken Dorsey. This feels

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Speaker 1: Andrew Berry said it when he was on the pot

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. The quarterback room is going

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Speaker 1: to look a lot different. It just has to with

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's re injuring retearing of the Achilles His timeline

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Speaker 1: but don't take the Aaron Rodgers Kyen Williams timeline, right.

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Speaker 1: That's what Rogers would have looked like, right, Not that

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Speaker 1: You get my point. He's not the Foo fighters but

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Speaker 1: We know that's the quarterback room's going to look a

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Speaker 1: Jalen Milroll, let's take him second overall. He praised Jalen Milroe,

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Speaker 1: play Colorado and Shador Sanders. But also Timey Reese's scouting

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Speaker 1: Reese Brown z OC. I think it's a return I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say to normalcy. It does feel right,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of excited to see what that looks like.

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Speaker 1: Because the Browns last year scored the fewest touchdowns in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. There's just no other way to sugarcoat it

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Speaker 1: And I think it's the right thing that Kevin says

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Speaker 1: he's calling plays now and taking any suspense out of it.

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Speaker 1: Right he opened the pressent. I'm calling plays. I reserve

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Speaker 1: the right to change my mind. See you, here's Tommy Reese. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's now Thursday before the Super Bowl. Used to be

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Speaker 1: So fourteen sacks, second in the league, but he had

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Speaker 1: And the plans for Miles Garrett. I mean, look, at

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Speaker 1: He chases him too. The sideline offensive coordinators begin every

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Speaker 2: I'll be down there. I'll swing by and say hi, Okay, beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. We appreciate that. So Tommy Reese had his

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Speaker 1: Why Tommy Reese.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the right fit for us. And I've

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Speaker 1: I'll pull back the curtain if you wouldn't mind, Like,

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Speaker 2: Well, we kind of put him through the paces like

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Speaker 2: Take us through your experiences and why that would shape

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Speaker 2: as I think our fans will get to know. You know,

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Speaker 1: And look, you learn from the good ones, and Tommy

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Speaker 2: on the board. There's the other thing to take that

427
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Speaker 2: tight end and say, here's how you're gonna do it.

428
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Speaker 2: This footwork, this step with this foot, this hand placement.

429
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Speaker 2: There's so much nuance that goes into it, and I

430
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Speaker 2: think for all coaches, certainly for somebody like Tommy, a

431
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Speaker 2: younger coach with a quarterback background, I think there's great

432
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Speaker 2: value in understanding all the nuance that goes to these

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Speaker 2: other positions.

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Speaker 1: You're taking the play calling back. Explain to me two things.

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Speaker 1: Number one why and number two why you felt the

436
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Speaker 1: need to come out today and just end the suspense

437
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Speaker 1: and say, guys, I'm doing this.

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Speaker 2: Just so you'd stop asking me the questions, Andrew, is

439
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Speaker 2: really what it was? Now, I listen and I say this,

440
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Speaker 2: and I mean this sincerely. There are things that are

441
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Speaker 2: really really important to playing good offense, and a lot

442
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Speaker 2: of them have nothing to do with play calling. We

443
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Speaker 2: have a lot of work to do. Tommy, myself, this

444
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Speaker 2: offensive staff in putting back an offense that we feel

445
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Speaker 2: really good about, and that's going to be sound, and

446
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Speaker 2: that's going to play to the strengths of our players.

447
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Speaker 2: There's a lot to do. The play calling piece comes

448
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Speaker 2: whenever our first game is in September. But I just

449
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Speaker 2: felt like it's the right thing for us right now.

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Speaker 2: I told the press today, and I mean this. I

451
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Speaker 2: reserve the right to change my mind. We're still in January,

452
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Speaker 2: but I feel like that's the right thing for the

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Speaker 2: team right now.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, the natural assumption is, because your calling plays again,

455
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Speaker 1: that this is going to be a return to the

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Speaker 1: offense that we saw the first four years, the offense

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Speaker 1: that went to the playoffs twice. And it's not just Tommy,

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Speaker 1: and it's not just you calling plays. It's Mike. Mike

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Speaker 1: Bloomgren for example, you're known offensive line coach, and we'll

460
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Speaker 1: go back to Stanford. I think they're in power eighteen

461
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Speaker 1: times in a row. This speaks to the old offense.

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Speaker 1: Are we wrong by assuming that and connecting those dots?

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Speaker 2: Listen, I understand the question, and I understand when and

464
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Speaker 2: you say all that we never want to just go backwards.

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Speaker 2: We want to go forward. So this is not where

466
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Speaker 2: you just PLoP a playbook down on the desk and say, hey,

467
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Speaker 2: dust this off. That's not what we're about. We want

468
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Speaker 2: to be forward thinking and everything we do obviously, add

469
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Speaker 2: Mike Bloomgren with Tommy's thoughts, there are certain things that

470
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Speaker 2: we believe in as coaches, but we also know this

471
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Speaker 2: game is changing. There are so many things that other

472
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Speaker 2: teams around the league are doing that we feel like

473
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Speaker 2: fits us, and some of it we haven't done here

474
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Speaker 2: in the past, and that's okay. That's part of evolution,

475
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Speaker 2: that's part of adapting in this football game. And I

476
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Speaker 2: think there's so much when you look around the league,

477
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Speaker 2: there's so much that changes year to year, certainly five

478
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Speaker 2: years to five years. I've told you this before. If

479
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Speaker 2: you put tape on from five years ago, there are

480
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Speaker 2: going to be things that stand out to you and say, wow,

481
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Speaker 2: things were different. If you put tape on ten years ago,

482
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Speaker 2: there's gonna even more things. So the games evolving, how

483
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Speaker 2: they officiate, the game is evolving, The players that are

484
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Speaker 2: coming into this league are evolving. The place style has evolved,

485
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Speaker 2: and it's not just at the quarterback positions. It's in

486
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Speaker 2: a bunch of different areas. So for us, we certainly

487
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Speaker 2: wanted to have that same mindset as we put our

488
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Speaker 2: offense together. This is the Cleveland Browns offense for the

489
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Speaker 2: year twenty twenty five, and here are the things that

490
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Speaker 2: we're doing because it fits our players. That's gonna be

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Speaker 2: what's most important.

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Speaker 1: Two more quick things. Tommy made the point today, and

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Speaker 1: part of this is the way the younger generation has

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Speaker 1: been brought up. I know we're sounding a little bit

495
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Speaker 1: old here, but about what is the why? Like for

496
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Speaker 1: today's younger players, you got to explain why we're doing this.

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Speaker 1: He emphasized that was part of his one of his

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Speaker 1: core fundamentals. I guess you could say today was the why,

499
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Speaker 1: if you're willing to look back, was the why? Ever?

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Speaker 1: In doubt, last year, seemingly some of the offensive line

501
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Speaker 1: or some of the players like that, you know, obviously

502
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Speaker 1: never even got on the same page. Last we maybe

503
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Speaker 1: didn't get on the same page. The offense never got there?

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Speaker 1: Was that ever a question?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: In retrospect?

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Speaker 2: I think, first of all, change is hard, any type

508
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Speaker 2: of change is hard for every buddy. For whatever the reason.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you my goal, Our stated goal. Our

510
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: purpose is making sure that we put together a scheme,

511
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Speaker 2: an offensive attack that complements this football team. And certainly

512
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Speaker 2: we didn't do that last season, and that falls on

513
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Speaker 2: my shoulders, and I accept that. I own that. I

514
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Speaker 2: also will fix that.

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Speaker 1: Tommy said that his number one as we go down

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Speaker 1: this path here, remaking the quarterback room. As Andrews said,

517
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Speaker 1: is the goal of the next couple of months, that

518
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Speaker 1: the number one thing he looks for in a quarterback

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Speaker 1: is processing. Kevin, it's a long road, I know, between

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Speaker 1: the start of the new league year and the draft

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay. But when you look at quarterbacks, what's

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Speaker 1: the number one thing that you must have? What do

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Speaker 1: you look at first?

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Speaker 2: It's a great question something we talk about all the time,

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Speaker 2: Andrew those traits that these quarterbacks have and which one

526
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Speaker 2: is the most important? How do you weigh it? You know, obviously,

527
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Speaker 2: decision making and processing is a huge part of this,

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Speaker 2: because the quarterbacks making those decisions what forty times a

529
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Speaker 2: game sometimes, whether it's run decisions, past decisions, you name it.

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Speaker 2: So that's certainly a big piece of this. There's so

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Speaker 2: much of the physical tools that we can talk through,

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Speaker 2: with accuracy probably being the top of the list, which

533
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Speaker 2: we know. And again, look at the playmaking around our

534
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Speaker 2: league that's happening at the quarterback position. So it's hard

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Speaker 2: for me to single one thing other than to tell you, yes,

536
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Speaker 2: decision making is important, and I'd say physical skills accuracy

537
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: is super important. And then as we all know that

538
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Speaker 2: that person leading that huddle and breaking the huddle and

539
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Speaker 2: being behind the center and leading the team out of

540
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Speaker 2: the tunnel, all those things that come with that position,

541
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Speaker 2: all those intangibles, the things that are easy to talk about,

542
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Speaker 2: hard to measure, that factors into it as well.

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Speaker 1: All Right, one last thing, as Bubba and Jack get

544
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Speaker 1: ready to coach at the Senior Bowl. Bubba's going to

545
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Speaker 1: be a head coach and Jock is going to be

546
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Speaker 1: a decordinator on the other team. So that's good as

547
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Speaker 1: someone who is coaching both the East West RNE game

548
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Speaker 1: and the Senior Ball. Do you have advice for them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to win because if they lose, they're

550
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Speaker 2: walking home, is what I told them. You know, it's

551
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: a great, great, great experience for our coaches to get

552
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: around those players. Obviously, for Bubba to be the head coach,

553
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: which he's perfect perfectly capable of, and I'm excited for

554
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: him in that realm because I think that really fits

555
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Speaker 2: Bubba's ability. He's a great leader of men, He's great

556
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Speaker 2: in an organization standpoint, how to pull it all together,

557
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Speaker 2: So I'm excited for him. Jacques gets to call the

558
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: defense and really set his personality on a defensive unit.

559
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Speaker 2: So it's great opportunity for our coaches to display what

560
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: they're capable of. It's also selfishly a great opportunity for

561
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: our guys to get around these players. These are a

562
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Speaker 2: lot of guys that you're going to be talking about

563
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Speaker 2: when you get to the draft, whether it's round one

564
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Speaker 2: to a round seven or after the draft, these are

565
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Speaker 2: names that we're talking about. So to have some knowledge

566
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Speaker 2: of who they are, how they learn, how they are

567
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Speaker 2: at practice, those type of things, it really is invaluable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the intel and just on the field

569
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Speaker 1: because everyone gets the tape. I'm the tape instantaneously gets uploaded.

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Speaker 1: Jim Naggie's great with that. You get to be in

571
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Speaker 1: the room right see how they are on the board,

572
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Speaker 1: See how they get from Tuesday practice to Wednesday's practice

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Speaker 1: to Thursday's practice. Go back to processing, like who is

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Speaker 1: this guy. Is he at alpha? Is he not? Is

575
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Speaker 1: he in the back of the room? Did he raise

576
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Speaker 1: his hand? All that stuff?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the year we coached the senior ball

578
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Speaker 2: I was helping out with the quarterbacks and it was

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, and Kellen Moore were our three quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who who is the alpha.

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Speaker 2: Back? Then? I can't say who it was, and I'll

582
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Speaker 2: protect everybody there. That's probably statute of limitations hasn't expired

583
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Speaker 2: on that one.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to guess. Russell at the Rookie Symposium

585
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Speaker 1: that year walked into an elevator and I'm just me,

586
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Speaker 1: I'm looking down on my phone like this, I'm not

587
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Speaker 1: even looking the elevator door open, I walked in and

588
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Speaker 1: door closes, and he is like, all energy, Hi there will,

589
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: nice to meet you.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I mean I think back there's that

591
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: was an incredible experience. We had Bobby Wagner on the team,

592
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: still playing, Harrison Smith was on the team still playing.

593
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Speaker 2: You know you mentioned Russell Kirk still playing, Kellen Moore

594
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: still calling it. He's got a big game this weekend.

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Speaker 2: So uh, It's just a very cool experience. Certainly for

596
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Speaker 2: the players as you can imagine, which is, you know,

597
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: a showcase of their abilities in front of the entire NFL.

598
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Speaker 2: But then as coaches, it's it's great for us as

599
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Speaker 2: well just to be around those guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, it'll be a great experience for Bubba and Jock certainly.

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Speaker 1: Mobile Marty Garras is always fun this time yere. Hopefully

602
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: the snow melts by the time we get there, say travels,

603
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: we'll see you there. Hopefully at some point you get

604
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Speaker 1: an off season, but I know that's not coming anytime soon. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: thanks for doing the Bark Tank.

606
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me. Andrew all right, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, great Kevin Stefanski, everybody. First time we've had the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Cleveland Browns in the Bark Tank.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I forgot to ask him if he could Barklake Jamis. Yeah,

611
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have done it anyway. That was cool anyway,

612
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: friendly reminder, just wrapping up the point we made at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the show. The promotion we made at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the show is that the Bark Tank

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Speaker 1: is going on the road. Tank on the road. We

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Speaker 1: need do we we need to come up with some

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Speaker 1: art for that or or a I don't know, can

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Speaker 1: get like a bark Tank T shirt on the road.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like we have T shirts. Come on, who

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Speaker 1: am I fooling? But the bark Tank is on the road, everybody.

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Speaker 1: The bark Tank is going to Marty Gras in Mobile,

622
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Speaker 1: and yes, I'm gonna hammer this home next week. Mobile, Alabama,

623
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Speaker 1: in La Lower Alabama is the home the birthplace of

624
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Speaker 1: Marty Gras, not New Orleans where we're going to the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl in a couple of weeks. Nope, Mobile is

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Speaker 1: where Marty Gras was born. And do not dare tell

627
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Speaker 1: anyone and Mobile otherwise there will be a parade, no joke,

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Speaker 1: every single week. I'm sorry, day of the week that

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Speaker 1: we are there in Mobile. If you're in town, you

630
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Speaker 1: can find me at Serda's coffee shop right downtown. Can't

631
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Speaker 1: miss it on the parade route. Se Erda apostrophe s

632
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Speaker 1: shameless plug. I don't get any promotion from it, but

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Speaker 1: I will be there every day, camped out with my

634
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Speaker 1: laptop doing my work. Come on down and say hi.

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Speaker 1: It is a tradition truly, unlike any other. Very often

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Speaker 1: it's yours, truly. An NFL and CBS star Charles Davis

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Speaker 1: sitting there with our laptops. Come talk to Chuck. He

638
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: would love to be interrupted from his work to shake

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Speaker 1: your hand and take a photo. He loves it. That too,

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Speaker 1: is a tradition. In all seriousness, the entire Park tank

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Speaker 1: staff will be down there, and we'll be bringing to shows.

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Speaker 1: We'll be at practice every day, So practices go Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Every coach, every GM is there. The NFL world is there.

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Speaker 1: And look, maybe some of the seven on seven and

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Speaker 1: the eleven on eleven stuff isn't isn't necessarily great? What

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Speaker 1: is great though, and that stuff is good to get

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Speaker 1: to see the quarterbacks sling it, but they're not game conditions.

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Speaker 1: What is great the one on one drills. We're there

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Speaker 1: for the one on one drills. So O line D

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Speaker 1: line right guys from the ACC teen off against guys

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Speaker 1: from the big ten, guys from the Mountain West. They're

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Speaker 1: not power five teeing up against the SEC right guys

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Speaker 1: from D two schools. And there will be one or

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Speaker 1: two of them going up against the big boys, not

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Speaker 1: only on the trenches, but wide receiver dB stuff as well.

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Speaker 1: That stuff is awesome. That's where, for example, two years ago.

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Speaker 1: Dwan Jones on Tuesday blocked out the Sun at right

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Speaker 1: tackle and made every single D lineman that he went against,

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Speaker 1: and outside backer and three to four backer made them

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Speaker 1: look like school kids. It looked like Shack High school video.

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Speaker 1: It looked like Lebron at Saint Vincent, Saint Mary's. That's

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Speaker 1: why we're there, That's why the Browns were there. We

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Speaker 1: will have that stuff for you. That's the good stuff.

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Speaker 1: And we'll be talking to the Browns decision makers, Andrew Berry,

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Speaker 1: Glenn Cook, Kat Pickman. Well, I'll be there and they

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Speaker 1: will be on this show. It's good stuff. We will

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Speaker 1: see you, everybody in Mobile