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Speaker 1: Yeah, an emergency podcast. Sure, we can call it that.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Thursday morning, June twenty third, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: We're here in the yard. I'm j E. Skeets and

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Speaker 1: joining me thanks to the power of technology. God, I

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Speaker 2: What's up? Skeets?

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Speaker 1: How's it going?

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Speaker 2: Pretty good? Pretty good? Pretty good? Good start here, good

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Speaker 2: start to the week.

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Speaker 1: That's right to start to the week. It's Thursday tests.

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Speaker 3: I mean draft week. I don't know, I just mean

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Speaker 3: pre draft Thursday. When you said June twenty third, I

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Speaker 1: I know? Is that I checked right before I said it.

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Speaker 1: I clicked up in my little MacBook. Date is it

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Speaker 1: June twenty third?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Happy draft Day to everybody. Hello to the sickos.

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Speaker 1: on the trade that happened on Wednesday. The Detroit Pistons

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter about those second second round swaps. Those

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Speaker 3: So yeah, about a couple of years ago they said, well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. The core right now, Lillard, Simon's Hart.

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Speaker 1: Now Grant, what are they doing with Nurkic? I mean,

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Speaker 1: mean he's a good player, like we said, definitely better

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Speaker 3: They didn't have to give up number seven, and that's

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Speaker 3: Really, but they're still not good enough defensively either, right,

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Speaker 3: Well they're better, yeah, yeah, they're better. No, they're better.

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Speaker 3: They made a step in the right direction. It's it's yeah.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we're talking here. Thursday, June twenty third, I

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Speaker 3: The things could be very different twenty four hours from now.

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Speaker 3: But if it's the number seven pick, joining Jeremy Grant

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's spin into that rumor then here and

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Speaker 1: you think of this? It sounds like you like the

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Speaker 3: She doesn't like it from from any side. At least

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, all right, well let's move so Og. It's hard.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to trade one of your babies, you know,

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Speaker 3: If if he was able to trade for a need,

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Speaker 3: and what are the raptors needs? Well, they've got six

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need a center as well, But at the.

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Speaker 2: To do that. I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't see Messi going that young at this point.

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Speaker 3: It's possible, I guess, but you know, you hit a

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Speaker 1: It would Okay, the only way this happens here today

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Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. Again, I am not

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Speaker 1: You know, is it sharp? Is it like you said,

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Speaker 3: six nine wings on your team as possible. And I

429
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: know they already have two in Siakam and Barnes, and

430
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 3: they have other needs, there's no doubt.

431
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right.

432
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 3: I mean, if there's somebody at number seven, like even

433
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,959
Speaker 3: if they can get seven and trade up to get

434
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 3: Jade and Ivy, I think Ivy would be obviously phenomenal

435
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 3: beside Fred van Vliet, but yeah, they'd have to get

436
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 3: somebody that is a big part of their starting lineup.

437
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 3: I think, like a real part of their starting not

438
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 3: some oh, wishful thinking a couple of years down the

439
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 3: road this number seven pick materializes. They want to be

440
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 3: good now. Is good now? Fred is great now? And

441
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 3: so yeah, unless Missiga knows something that the draft experts

442
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 3: aren't seeing, let's let's taken tournament to a star right

443
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: away that number seven pick, or trade that number seven

444
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: pick into something else, then I don't see it happening.

445
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: Because Og two, let's not forget he is like on

446
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: a really really friendly contract, Like he's locked up here

447
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. He's like gonna be making

448
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: seventeen million, and then like it goes up a little

449
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: bit eighteen million, then that's doesn't even I don't even

450
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: think get to twenty million. So like I think the

451
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: final year is a team option if I remember correctly.

452
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: So that's I mean, that's a good When he plays,

453
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: he's damn good. I mean, that's my only concern with

454
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: him is that there's a lot of times that he

455
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: misses for weird injuries. And that was his whole knock

456
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: coming out of the draft. Member that is why teams

457
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: were avoiding him, Like this guy's has all these weird

458
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: injuries that he's picked up over the years, and that's

459
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: like scared a lot of teams away, I think. But

460
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: he has a really good player. It all comes down

461
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: to what MESSI, Xerie, Bobby Webster know about this draft

462
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: to me, and that's it. But I will, I guess

463
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: I'll go on record saying I think he's still playing

464
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: for the Raptors that started next season, and I think

465
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: this is the Blazer's wishful thinking on the backs of

466
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: the rumors that Og is maybe not happy in his role,

467
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not even sure how much I believe that,

468
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: because it feels like sort of the Raptor's brass have

469
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: sort of shot that down to when they had a

470
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: chance to talk to the media. The final big piece

471
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: of news here or rumor that's swirling this one. I'm

472
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: fascinated to hear your thoughts, tasks. It involves the Spurs

473
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: and the Hawks. Apparently it's from Jake Fisher at Bleach

474
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: Report discussing a deal around de Jontay Murray for John Collins,

475
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: and the Spurs have told interested teams, look, Jontay Murray

476
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: is available. We're interested possibly in moving them. But it

477
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: would take quote a Drew Holiday like package to get

478
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: de Jontay Murray off the Spurs hands. So it wouldn't

479
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: just be Collins for Murray here. It would be, in theory,

480
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: a ton of picks. But what do you think of

481
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: this rumor with the de Jontay Murray just being even

482
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: possibly available for the right price, do you buy it?

483
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: Maybe this is a new era in the San Antonio Spurs.

484
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: I listen, de Jontay Muryeah. It would have to be

485
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: a huge package. This this rumor of just John Collins

486
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: from the Hawks doesn't really make a lot of sense

487
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: to me. De Jontay Murray is further along in his

488
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: development than John Collins. He was just a freaking All Star.

489
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, this doesn't sound.

490
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: Like the Spurs to just trade their best player. It

491
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like them.

492
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: But I think why, I say, maybe this is a

493
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 3: new era of the Spurs. Maybe they are talking to

494
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: people and they made a trade at the trade deadline

495
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 3: that doesn't usually happen with the San Antonio Spurs. I

496
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: just think that they're maybe talking and when somebody hears

497
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 3: that somebody's talking, well that's a rumor, baby, that's that

498
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: that generates the smoke. But I don't think that de

499
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 3: Jontay Murray is going anywhere. I just it doesn't make

500
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: any sense to me trade your best player for what

501
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 3: would have to be a huge package back, and it

502
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: would have to have I think, a very good player

503
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: back coming back as well, because he is their best

504
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: player by far.

505
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't don't. I don't get it.

506
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: So a couple things here, just in case you forgot

507
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: the Drew Holiday type package. Well, when the Bucks added Holiday,

508
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: it took them Eric Bledsoe's contract, George Hill, three future

509
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: first round picks three and then two additional draft pick swaps,

510
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: So a lot of draft capital there. So I guess

511
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: that's in theory what the Spurs would want. Call it

512
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: two or three first round picks and probably a couple swaps,

513
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: which is of course a lot. But according to Fisher

514
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: task he says, there's this weird sense among NBA executives

515
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: at San Antonio. They're like they're open to an extended

516
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: rebuild and that maybe they're like a little worried of

517
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: Murray's inevitable expensive contract extension, which is like it's not

518
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: like it's not around the corner, but it's like around

519
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: the block, right He's got He's currently a four year,

520
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: sixty four million dollar deal. I mean, what a deal

521
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: that's set to expire in twenty twenty four, and then

522
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: he's probably looking at up with these type of numbers.

523
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: The guy who's flirting with a triple double on a

524
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: season he gives you defense that's like max money right there.

525
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: Of course, So that's the that's the concern. I guess

526
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: that they that they don't want to be the ones

527
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: to eventually pay that. That's yeah, I.

528
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 2: Don't know, but why not? Why wouldn't you pay him?

529
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: When I get yeah, you want to rebuild, but you've

530
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: got to pay somebody, and why not pay an all start.

531
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: They really have nobody on their roster that's shown anything

532
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: close to I mean they have guards, yeah, Lonnie Walker

533
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: and Devin Vessella has been solid. Lonnie Walker has not

534
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: been impressive enough. I mean he can barely start on

535
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: this team. Who do they have that they wouldn't pay

536
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: de jon Te Murray max money? Doesn't make sense to

537
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: me at all really, unless they think that because there's

538
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 3: not enough talent around de Jonta Murray, that they've just

539
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 3: got to start from scratch, that even if you signed

540
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: twenty six year old soon to be twenty six year

541
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: old de Jonte Murray to a max contract, that they're

542
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: not going to be good enough around him because they

543
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 3: don't have enough. Kelden Johnson, I guess is the other

544
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: player I didn't mention. They hope Josh Primo can be

545
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: a player, but I feel.

546
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: Like that's if this is true, that's the concern of

547
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: the Spurs front office. It's less to do really with

548
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: de Jontay Murray. It's like you were saying when you

549
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: were talking about the Blazers, it's them looking at the

550
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: landscape of the West going even with de Jonta Murray

551
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: in his prime, you know, putting up twenty two tens

552
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: and tens every night, I ain't gonna cut it here,

553
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: and like they're almost maybe they're like, well, let's kick

554
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: the can down the road and like, let all these guys,

555
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: let all these teams battle it out for the three,

556
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 1: four or five year window, and we'll be set up

557
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: to then sort of floor hitting on all these potential

558
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: picks that would be coming away. That would be the

559
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: thinking to me, because I loved Jontay Murray too, Like, look,

560
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: should the Hawks do this? Should the Hawks be like

561
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: if this was real, if you buy this rumor should

562
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: the Hawks be super aggressive? Of course Collins is gonna

563
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: be traded, Like I'm sure we're gonna stop this recording

564
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: on this podcast and he'll be traded an hour later,

565
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: because it sounds like Collins is on the move tonight

566
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: or on drafted here. But should they really really go

567
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: get to Jontay Murray? Do you like the idea of

568
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: that if it cost him a lot of picks to

569
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 1: pair with Trey Young and let's say DeAndre Hunter as

570
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: you're one, two three right there?

571
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, de Jonte beside Tree Young so good,

572
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: so good, that would be phenomenal. An incredible defensive player

573
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: but also a ball handler. Yes, and yeah, sure seems

574
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: like John Collins is gonna move even though he's a

575
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: solid player.

576
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that would be a great backward.

577
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: But you don't think it's gonna happen.

578
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't. I don't. That's even weirder

579
00:28:59,360 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: to me.

580
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: If if the Spurs are trying to blow it up,

581
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: why trade for a player who hasn't done as much

582
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: in his career like John Collins compared to de Jontay Murray.

583
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't even though you know.

584
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: He's sort of on the same timeline as that doesn't

585
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: make sense to me.

586
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only other thing I can think of with

587
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: all of this is, you know, this type of report

588
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: leaking or whatever. Maybe it's the Spurs pushing the narrative.

589
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: Hey we're looking to move to Jontay Murray if you

590
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: got a lot of picks, like, does it peak the

591
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: interest of the Knicks or the Wizards, who we know

592
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: like need a guard or some lead guard like, wow, oh,

593
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: hold on, Murray's available. What Oh no, John Collins and picks, No, no,

594
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: listen to us. We got so and so and all

595
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: these picks, and maybe there's a play there, But that

596
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: still goes gets us back to like, why would you

597
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: want to trade de Jontay Murray? Well, organization, you're right,

598
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: this is a very out of character for them.

599
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: It feels like, yeah, that's a good point about other

600
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: teams wanting to make a trade, especially because of the

601
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: lack of talent in the free agency pool. As we

602
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: talked about with John Hollandrew the other day, it was

603
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: it was it was a good take by him that

604
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: these hours here, as we lead up to Draft Day

605
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: and even you know after Draft Day, before July first,

606
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: when when free agency starts, there's gonna be trades because

607
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: there's just not a lot of great free agents. If

608
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: you want to improve your team, you got to do

609
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: it via trade. So, yeah, John Collins, young talented guy,

610
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: Johntay Murray an incredibly young talented guy, and so there's

611
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: gonna be rumors around them. There's been rumors around John

612
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: Collins for years. Yeah, and maybe this is the Hawks, Yeah,

613
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: just trying to increase the package for John Collins. You

614
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: see de John, we almost got to de Jontay Murray

615
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: for him. You got to offer something juicy, right, because yeah,

616
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: it seems like John Collins is done in Atlanta.

617
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: And if you can get to Jontay Murray, form, my goodness, what.

618
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: Is John Collins honestly going to be traded for today

619
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: slash tonight slash tomorrow. I mean, if Jeremy Grant's only

620
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: going for a first round pick in twenty twenty five

621
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: that's protected one through four, I mean, Collins is would

622
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: you agree as like somewhat comparable I think to a

623
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: Grant sort of status in the league, a good not

624
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: great player in the right system of you know, you're

625
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: loving it for the right amount of money. You're loving it.

626
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: You don't want to old Max? No, you know, so

627
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: is it? Are we gonna see something comparable tonight? Does

628
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: he go for a lottery pick? Probably not at this point.

629
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, it all. It just takes one. It just

630
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: takes one.

631
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: It takes one, and it's Collins assigned to a longer

632
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: deal that's you know, guaranteed money than Jeremy Grant. So

633
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest thing he's a little younger.

634
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: I say it just takes one because it takes one

635
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: team to really believe in Collins sort of being like

636
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: a number two type complimentary player, and he's you know,

637
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: he's still younger, and he just wanted his, you know,

638
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: his his role to increase. It's just takes one executive.

639
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: Looking back at the hawks twenty twenty one run and

640
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: seeing John Collins work his ass off and be good,

641
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: it's like Jeremy Grant in that sense that he had

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Speaker 3: a really good playoff run. And Yeah, like we just said,

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Speaker 3: the Knicks or somebody is going to be willing to

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Speaker 3: pay up for somebody out there because the trades, the

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Speaker 3: trades are gonna come fast and furious.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Podding so too.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be pottened a few times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Woes even said, I know on some sort of

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Speaker 1: like draft preview last night, he agreed with Hollinger and said, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, buckle up, there's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 1: trades here tonight. This is a big reason why we

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Speaker 1: wanted to jump on here this morning. We weren't planning

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Speaker 1: on doing a podcast, but I feel like we need

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Speaker 1: to get the Jeremy Grant trade out of the way,

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Speaker 1: some of these rumors out of the way, because I

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Speaker 1: think in the next couple hours and then later tonight

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Speaker 1: they're be so much to talk about, and we will

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Speaker 1: be back tomorrow for a little drop podcast fun breaking

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Speaker 1: down hopefully all these trades and all of the picks. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: I will say final thing saying before I go clean

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Speaker 1: up the dog puke Wosh tweeted at like eight thirty

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Speaker 1: this morning, like just what was just rolls out of bed,

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Speaker 1: grabs his phones, Like, okay, let's tweet this quote. As

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Speaker 1: team boards finalize today, the one two three of the

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Speaker 1: NBA Draft is increasingly firm, per sources, Jabari Smith to Orlando,

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Speaker 1: chet Holmgren to OKC, and Palo Bancho to Houston. Okay, now,

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Speaker 1: this is fascinating task, not that order one two three.

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Speaker 1: I mean most people have been saying that's how it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be, go, gonna go, But have you been. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you saw last night and I think

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Speaker 1: even still into this morning, there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: confusion coming from Vegas that Paolo was like the favorite

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Speaker 1: to go number one, and everybody's like going, like what

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Speaker 1: the hell's going on here? Like that means the Magic

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Speaker 1: are taking him? Does that mean the Rockets are trading

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Speaker 1: up to take him? So, I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: have any thoughts on woes tweet, what Vegas is doing

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Speaker 1: with these odds and what even happens tonight.

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Speaker 2: Listen, it's a whirlwind out there. I don't know, it's

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Speaker 2: too much information for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to think maybe the Blazers, you know, I

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Speaker 3: underestimate Josh Hart. I'm just getting high over here. I'm

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Speaker 3: getting high on all these rumors. I'm starting to think, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Josh Hart, solid defensive player with Damian Lillard, maybe they

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Speaker 3: can make the postseason with this offensive defensive dual lineup. Hey,

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Speaker 3: maybe Jay n Ivy goes one. I don't know, there's

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Speaker 3: just a it's too I know, I know that was Listen,

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Speaker 3: we had Hollinger thinking that Chet Holmgren would go to

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Speaker 3: the Orlando Magic at number one still play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they love their lungs.

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Speaker 3: But but y Sham SCHRONI was definitely, you know, leaning

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Speaker 3: towards Jabari Smith going at number one and Ban Carrow.

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Speaker 3: I guess he's the one who ain't going number one.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't feel like he's going.

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Speaker 1: Well, why does neggas have him?

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Speaker 4: An?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What's going on there? Like Rob Lopez I think tweeted

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Speaker 1: this morning, one of two things are currently happening right now.

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Speaker 1: One Jabari Smith is actual going number one and Palo's

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Speaker 1: betting market is just being inflated and influenced by some

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Speaker 1: sharp gamblers. Or two, Jabari Smith going number one is

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00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: a huge smoke screen and the gamblers, if you want

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Speaker 1: to call them that, are the actual insiders, and they

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Speaker 1: know that Polo's going number one to either the Magic

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Speaker 1: or again some sort of trade maybe involving the rockets

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Speaker 1: or not, like they're there. Definitely could be tonight. Chris

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Speaker 1: Weber Penny Hardaway type swap here with teams at the top,

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Speaker 1: I think that's very much in play. Hollinger said the

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Speaker 1: same thing before the Jeremy Grant trade. But with the

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Speaker 1: Kings and Pistons swapping four or five and all that,

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Speaker 1: I would bet on that almost at this point happening

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Speaker 1: between these top five or six teams, some little maneuvering

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Speaker 1: around to get the guy you really want and maybe

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Speaker 1: you get an asset in return whatever team trading down.

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Speaker 3: But we'll seeah, yeah, and there's yeah, the three bigs

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Speaker 3: are at the top, and you could even see a

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Speaker 3: Mark el Foltz for Jason Tatum or like one one

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Speaker 3: through three and one for three trade if you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, and number two with okay see is set

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Speaker 3: on somebody, but you like one guy and you can

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Speaker 3: you know, pick pick at number three if you're the

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Speaker 3: magic and drop down two slots.

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Speaker 1: It's very possible. Yeah, it's possible. Again. We will break

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Speaker 1: it all down tomorrow here on No Dunks. If you're

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Speaker 1: some more emergency podcasts tonight for Crying Out Loud is

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Speaker 1: something really big and juicy goes down, so make sure

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Speaker 1: you subscribe. I also said this off the top, but

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Speaker 1: just a little reminder. JD traveling, So this will take

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Speaker 1: a little bit more time than normal to be flipped

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Speaker 1: into a podcast, so you know if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: waiting on that, thank you for waiting. If you're listening

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Speaker 1: right now, appreciate that. Sorry we couldn't get it up earlier.

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Speaker 1: But the man's the man's seeing the beautiful side of Canada,

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Speaker 1: the East side, the side I've never seen. Even so,

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Speaker 1: the photos look great from his wife at least whos

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Speaker 1: been up there for a little bit. Shout up to

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Speaker 1: Rachel and the boys. All right, Tassie, great talking to

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Speaker 1: you here breaking down all these rumors and that Jeremy

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Speaker 1: grant the Blazers trade. Thanks to everybody joining us live.

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Speaker 1: We again will either see you later tonight or at

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Speaker 1: the very least we will see you tomorrow morning. Let

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Speaker 1: me just give you a little clipper bros here you

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Speaker 1: heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 1: Love you guys.

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Speaker 4: Awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for joining us, and remember Marittime to go

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Speaker 3: look at the rumors. Marittimes names, Yeah no, it wasn't good.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't good that that's the name. Maritimes are the

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Speaker 3: name of the Canadian provinces on the East coast.

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Speaker 2: You gotta explain the Canadian jokes.

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Speaker 3: So Maritimes gotta go, gotta go look at the rumors.

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Speaker 1: Embrace today people, you.

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Speaker 4: Could stay every day and Danie happy every name. It's

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Speaker 4: done so long that I don't wanna.

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Speaker 1: Place for.

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Speaker 4: It's happened already it's gonna be grippy,