WEBVTT - Paul Reiser’s Return to Stand-Up

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<v Speaker 1>Really now, really, really.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, really hello, and welcome to Really Know Really Jess,

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<v Speaker 2>Alexander and Peter Tilden, who remind you onequivocally that subscribing

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<v Speaker 2>to the podcast is a truly stand up thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And speaking of stand up, actor Paul Reiser began his

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<v Speaker 2>illustrious career back in the seventies as one of the

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<v Speaker 2>hottest young stand up comedians of his generation. What quickly

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<v Speaker 2>followed was breakout acting roles in films like Diner, Beverly Hills,

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<v Speaker 2>Cop and Aliens. That was followed by television stardom and

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<v Speaker 2>series like My Two Dads, Stranger Things, The Kaminsky Method,

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<v Speaker 2>The Boys, and his highly acclaimed series Mad About You,

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<v Speaker 2>which he also produced and wrote. But then last year,

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<v Speaker 2>after a thirty two year hiatus from stand up comedy,

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<v Speaker 2>Riser returned to his comedy roots with his special Life

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<v Speaker 2>Death and Rice Pudding, and suddenly he was a stand

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<v Speaker 2>up again.

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<v Speaker 3>Really no really, Today.

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<v Speaker 2>The guys will chat with him about the twists and

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<v Speaker 2>turns of his amazing career and what called him back

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<v Speaker 2>to take up the microphone and comedy clubs once again.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's Jason and Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's say.

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<v Speaker 4>Should we actually begin, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Rolling why I just want to I want to go.

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<v Speaker 3>What is so important that I had to race over

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<v Speaker 3>to this side of town? What is how?

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<v Speaker 4>He's interrupting? Apparently we're trying to start a show and

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<v Speaker 4>roll in and do introductions and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Guests I thought i'd come in aggressive.

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<v Speaker 4>Has decided to come in like you know, like it's

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<v Speaker 4>like it's his show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what that means. He's a little bit nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>he's uncomfortable. He wants to try and get in and

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<v Speaker 1>feel the.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you put me in my place nicely. Good for

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<v Speaker 3>you for you know who did that?

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<v Speaker 4>Remember who did that? Same thing? Same thing?

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<v Speaker 3>He's gone.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he's still with us.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what comes? I love you, Remember I love

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<v Speaker 1>obscure things. I was gonna say, Lance Wrens, No, just

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<v Speaker 1>to see.

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<v Speaker 4>If Shatner started the interview, started interviewing, what's the show? Why?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm doing sign But yeah, Shatner started the.

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<v Speaker 1>Same always takes over. You go to lunch with him

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<v Speaker 1>and we say we're not going to have desert, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes everything and then you gotta get it. Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll pretend that we had not been interrupted. Are you

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<v Speaker 4>excited about our guest today.

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<v Speaker 1>I am really excited to because oh, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>a nine and a half ten, and he's gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>why not?

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<v Speaker 4>Why not immediately?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's it because the Orson Walf is dead.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge How are you not a huge man?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you grew up watching him? And also he's

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<v Speaker 1>taking jobs away from me, nomadic actresses your way from me.

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<v Speaker 4>I still like them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dramatic, it's action adventure, it's the boys, it's stranger things,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's met about you. Reduct you know, comes back.

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<v Speaker 4>For a guy with an every man's face and a

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<v Speaker 4>really you know, I'm not saying he doesn't have talent.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying it's not a to Z you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying. He's not Brando, but.

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<v Speaker 1>He llow he's done up singing comedy with the thing

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<v Speaker 1>he did with that monitor lizard. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but no, Paulie, Paulie is he's done at all?

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<v Speaker 1>And what the really no really is thirty two years

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<v Speaker 1>he waited to do stand up the thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Now here's the thing because I haven't done the deep dive.

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<v Speaker 4>I know paul primarily as an actor because I first

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<v Speaker 4>remember the first time I remember remember seeing Paul's work

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<v Speaker 4>was in diner, right, you're with me? So I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know him as a stand up prior to that, and

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<v Speaker 4>I kept here on a stand up standing stand up.

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<v Speaker 4>And so for me, I go, it's even more of

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<v Speaker 4>a really no, really, because I go, you never did

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<v Speaker 4>stand up? Why we Why now you're going to do

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<v Speaker 4>stand up? But it's a return to the roots. What

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<v Speaker 4>balls would it take? Yeah, drove all the way here

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<v Speaker 4>from wherever? Yeah, and we never we just did this,

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<v Speaker 4>We just do this what he did? Just talk about

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<v Speaker 4>him in front of him. Yeah, and speculate what his

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<v Speaker 4>answers might be.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll be fine with me to watch two people talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Please welcome to really no, really the great and I

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<v Speaker 4>do mean that one of thank you gentle men out there,

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<v Speaker 4>and and a lovely human being. Nobody by the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that he's willing to come down to the van Night's airport.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, not knowing from comedy anybody or

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<v Speaker 1>under what thirty probably thinks you're dramatic from aliens on, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a dramatic act my favorite thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I hear this a lot. His friends will say

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<v Speaker 3>that their kids their teenage kids will go, what the guy,

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<v Speaker 3>the doctor from Stranger Things is going to try to

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<v Speaker 3>be funny and I go, okay, first of all, tell

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<v Speaker 3>him I'm not a doctor, right, really, and I'm actually

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<v Speaker 3>a stand up but you know, and I did take

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years off doing stand up, not intentionally but just

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<v Speaker 3>as it turns out, so it's understandable. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think of myself as a stand up for But

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<v Speaker 3>as you were talking, we were in an acting class

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<v Speaker 3>together for a brief with Larry. Yes, that's right, that's

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<v Speaker 3>where I first met you, and it would be it

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<v Speaker 3>was way before you would be probably eighty. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>just two three big locks of hair. Yeah, that would

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<v Speaker 3>have been a while ago.

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<v Speaker 4>You're confusing us. It happens all the time. But seriously,

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<v Speaker 4>because I never asked you this, because how often have

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<v Speaker 4>we chatted about this stuff? So when you were a kid,

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<v Speaker 4>you weren't thinking actor. You were thinking come yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know they were sort of meshed. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that you're in fourth grade thinking I want to do

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<v Speaker 4>a fellow but performing. So it was like the blanket performing.

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<v Speaker 3>So in elementary school, you'd write an essay, a composition,

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<v Speaker 3>a story and my recollection is you could read it

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<v Speaker 3>aloud if you'd like, and I would go and I

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<v Speaker 3>would volunteer because I wanted the laughs of the eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>twenty kids. And even then, this is how dumb and

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<v Speaker 3>ill advised. I would put in subtle jokes that only

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<v Speaker 3>one guy would get and the rest of the class

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<v Speaker 3>would go. But like, I was always working the back

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<v Speaker 3>of the room, which is death is silly, but it

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<v Speaker 3>made me happy. So it was always performing and getting

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<v Speaker 3>laughs was the thought. But you know, you'd be in

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<v Speaker 3>a school play. I remember in college I did Guys

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<v Speaker 3>and Dolls and I was not in the theater department.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like the dorms putting on a silly thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I even fell into that by accident because some

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<v Speaker 3>guy dropped out. And I loved getting the laugh. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, and I love the excitement, and I loved

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<v Speaker 3>getting ready, Well we got a show. It's only nine

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<v Speaker 3>more hours to a showtime, you know that. But I

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<v Speaker 3>knew there were four solid laughs that I would get.

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<v Speaker 3>That made me realize, yeah, that's what I like, and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get through the dancing and singing and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But the reason I find it interesting because I talked

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<v Speaker 4>to Jerry about this too. Jerry said, I assume it's

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<v Speaker 4>still true that his preference, by a landslide is stand

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<v Speaker 4>up because he loves the thrill or the challenge of

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<v Speaker 4>working in one. Yeah, And I find like I talked

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<v Speaker 4>to Kevin Pollock about that too, and he likes that too.

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<v Speaker 4>He likes the he likes working in one. I went

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<v Speaker 4>into acting because I spent my life in one and

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to have a community, and so it was

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<v Speaker 4>always the communal aspect of being in a show or

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<v Speaker 4>being in a film that drew me to it. I

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<v Speaker 4>find that a lot of comedians I talked to are

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<v Speaker 4>very intimidated by the community work of being an actor,

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<v Speaker 4>or vice versa. My actors won't go near.

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<v Speaker 3>It's ironic because one of the things, yes, you're working

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<v Speaker 3>in one, but one of the things that I loved

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<v Speaker 3>when I did my little you know, theater experiences, but

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<v Speaker 3>I also love in stand up is in fact the community. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you're working in one, but you're all hanging around that,

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<v Speaker 3>you're all chiming in with hey, you know, it would

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<v Speaker 3>be a great line after that, and you're with the

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<v Speaker 3>other it's you know, like, oh, these you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>brothers and sisters. So I think there really is a

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<v Speaker 3>strong community. And it's interesting. I never felt comedians were

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<v Speaker 3>really competitive professionally. I mean you might say, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>jump on the line. You're an actor. There's eleven guys

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<v Speaker 3>go into the audition. One of you will get it,

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<v Speaker 3>the other ten will not. Just stand up. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>great gig, you'll do it this week, you'll do it

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<v Speaker 3>next week. So it's not a zero sum game. So

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<v Speaker 3>to that effect, there really was a community. There is

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<v Speaker 3>a community and stand up which I still love. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>You also, you were that part of the Best Buddies

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<v Speaker 1>thing with Cherry Too, right, did you Mark Schiff, Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Millwer didn't you do the New Year's.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Lampton Ky? Yeah, yeah, we were, you know, five

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<v Speaker 3>idiots who said it's New Year's Day, we got nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to do, nobody has a girlfriend, let's go eat lunch.

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<v Speaker 3>And then that became a tradition, you know, we'll get

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<v Speaker 3>through the New Year's Day thing. I did it for

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<v Speaker 3>like twenty five years or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you guys compare notes? Did you guys always

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<v Speaker 1>fell comedy for like a mont grow.

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<v Speaker 3>We wouldn't talk. No, in fact, almost not at all,

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<v Speaker 3>but but it would just be sprinting and having ridiculous laughs.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we were the guys that everybody else is

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<v Speaker 3>going to led Zepplendon, We're going to see Robert Klein.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you find that community, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 3>I remember one time in fact, that group was Larry

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry and myself and Mark Shift and we were eating

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<v Speaker 3>out in a restaurant and wait, just said something silly

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<v Speaker 3>and there was an opening and almost like we all

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<v Speaker 3>went around instantly and did the same joke but a

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<v Speaker 3>little different went Wow, that's that was your take. That

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<v Speaker 3>was your take and uh, and we just laughed at that,

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that we had the same idea and we

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<v Speaker 3>all went a little bit different way.

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<v Speaker 1>So may I bring up so I watch a comedy

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<v Speaker 1>special not before you were even booked.

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<v Speaker 3>That is really appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing that I single out one thing, not

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<v Speaker 1>that everything else wasn't brilliant, one thing that was got broken.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a lot more healthy than so the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>got me though, that was so broken. And you get

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<v Speaker 1>to that point when you're logging in and says, are

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<v Speaker 1>you a robot?

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<v Speaker 3>I love those tests because there's so few things that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good at and those one I I crush them.

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<v Speaker 3>I go, I know I'm already in, but give me

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<v Speaker 3>another one.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, because there's always like a piece of one

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<v Speaker 4>in the corner of a blank.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I go, do I click on that cross one?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, you're either a robot or Jason Alexander.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yeah, but you're not getting it.

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<v Speaker 3>There was when I go someone that I try to

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<v Speaker 3>trick you up, palm tree.

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<v Speaker 5>Palm Well it could be a focus, right, hey, not

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<v Speaker 5>so fast that yes, yes, but it's it's it's interesting

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<v Speaker 5>with the technology that advance, the one thing that stops

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<v Speaker 5>a robot, we cannot attemptify a chimney.

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<v Speaker 3>You put a chimney in with debt.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, you say you took a twenty year break, but

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<v Speaker 4>were you and you were writing and running some of

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<v Speaker 4>the other things as well, But were you keeping sort

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<v Speaker 4>of a here's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little journal note I should make no real No, I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the brain's always putting doing that anyway, like

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<v Speaker 3>that's funny. But I wasn't keeping it because I I

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<v Speaker 3>had never intended. There were a lot of comics who say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know who just actually got into stand up because

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<v Speaker 3>they want to get discovered and then they'll get a sitcom.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they advanded it my our group of guys,

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<v Speaker 3>we just loved stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the goal.

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<v Speaker 3>So I never wanted to get out of it. And

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<v Speaker 3>I only got out of it because I like, when

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<v Speaker 3>Mad About You started, I was I don't know Jerry

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<v Speaker 3>managed to do it, others did it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a full time job and my brain is dead,

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<v Speaker 3>and if I have a month off, I'm going to sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>So and then I got really comfortable, and then we

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the show was over, and I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to take a year off, and and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>always wanted to get back, but I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>just dig dust off the old act. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>kept waiting and waiting. I said it's time, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just started really from scratch. I had three minutes of

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<v Speaker 3>stuff in's you say, what's relevant? I'm not smart enough

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<v Speaker 3>to make anything up and I can only I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you what happened in my house. See if

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<v Speaker 3>this is funny, and most people go, oh, that happened

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<v Speaker 3>to my house, and lot George Colin used to call it,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah comedy, like oh yeah yeah. So but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you find out that what you're going through is really universal.

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<v Speaker 3>What was nice about coming back after all those years

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<v Speaker 3>and now this is post mad about you, so audiences

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<v Speaker 3>now they know you and they feel comfortable. It really

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<v Speaker 3>felt like getting together with old friends. It's like, we

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<v Speaker 3>know what's happening. Those babies that we had, they're growing

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<v Speaker 3>up now, right, Well, they's funny. So it was was

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<v Speaker 3>it was way overdue. I wish I had I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know wish, but I wanted to and I only was

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<v Speaker 3>procrastinating because I wanted to do it well. And what

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<v Speaker 3>I found was it was exactly going back when I

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<v Speaker 3>was sixty or whatever, felt exactly the same as when

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<v Speaker 3>I was eighteen. I went on audition night. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>just as excited, just as nervous. It's just as challenging,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's no shortcut, like you can't you're not automatically better. Lo,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to go up every night. And then a

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<v Speaker 3>year I felt it was a year before I said

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<v Speaker 3>I can maybe try to sell a ticket. No, even

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<v Speaker 3>the first club date I wait to the I would

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<v Speaker 3>just go to eight club and do fifteen minutes or

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<v Speaker 3>four minutes, and then eight minutes, ten minutes, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I can do it. At the first club date manager

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<v Speaker 3>booked it was like two shows with two shows in

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<v Speaker 3>one night. No, I'm in pajamas at eight thirty. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna I can't do that. And to my surprise,

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<v Speaker 3>so we negotiated down to one and then of course

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<v Speaker 3>when it was over, I went give me another show.

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<v Speaker 3>I realized I missed this. Wow, well it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you that dumb question that I've never

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<v Speaker 1>just came to my mind? Thought, Jason's gonna call me

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<v Speaker 1>for asking Spust, how do you decide what to wear?

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I watch a comedy special, I go, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>wearing the wrong thing for now and your stomach and

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<v Speaker 1>your thing, and it's going to be bad. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you test out what you wear? Because you were a

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<v Speaker 1>very nice outfit that worked. The shoes, worked the pants.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not a dumb question because it took me

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<v Speaker 3>while to realize.

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<v Speaker 1>You test out what you wear because you were a

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<v Speaker 1>very nice outfit that worked, the shoes, worked the pants.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a dumb question because it took me while

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<v Speaker 3>to realize, I only feel comfortable with these shoes, and

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<v Speaker 3>I like to gee I don't like to wear a suit.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks nice, but I don't feel comfortable in a suit.

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<v Speaker 3>And and so I found a shirt. I went, let

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<v Speaker 3>me give me a lot of these shirts. And I

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<v Speaker 3>got a dozen of the same shirt. And then was

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<v Speaker 3>the special. I actually had a meeting with a wardrobe person.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, well, this is not just me chilling it chuckles,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to and they go, but you want to

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<v Speaker 3>be comfortable, I said, I'm just gonna wear exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>I wear. And uh, and if you need those shirts,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, we'll watch the shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the blue monitor. I'd like the things good.

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<v Speaker 4>But there is there is a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>As we've all gotten older, and I would imagine you

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<v Speaker 3>found this too. You find a uniform, whether it's for

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<v Speaker 3>home or for work. I was like, let me do this. A.

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<v Speaker 3>It's comfortable. B. I don't want to think. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>Obama talking about that that one of the things like

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<v Speaker 3>when he got busy, is like, I'm going to cut

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<v Speaker 3>out all wardrobe decisions except one day I'm gonna wear

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<v Speaker 3>a cream colored suit. But that he stepped out of

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<v Speaker 3>the zone and then he got he got in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like, yeah, you know, just gonna here's what

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<v Speaker 3>I wear, Here's what I do. So is this it

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<v Speaker 3>is this the ni No? This is my Jason Alexander

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<v Speaker 3>put on a sweater. No, but yeah, yeah. Basically I'm

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<v Speaker 3>always wearing jeans in the sweater and if I step out,

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<v Speaker 3>it's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>If you still have clothing you wear from Matt about

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<v Speaker 1>your for God's sake, because I'll tell you what you

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<v Speaker 1>want him. He's wearing two items right now from Cipher

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<v Speaker 1>and we just talked about.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, if you're a constant listener, we talked

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<v Speaker 4>about this in the last episode as well. So when

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<v Speaker 4>the show went down, what do you take? I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what to take, so I took all my wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, Yeah, but us thirty years now.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at his shirt.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a classic. It's like a hemingway.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't throw.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember the when you're doing a show and we're lucky,

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<v Speaker 3>we're privileged to be working on a show, and they

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<v Speaker 3>dress and slowly you start dressing just like your character

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<v Speaker 3>is you. Let's just close that gap. And then while

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing a show, Well, I got to do it

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<v Speaker 3>tonight show. I need a suit, get your suit. You

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<v Speaker 3>doing a thing? I have a wedding can give me

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<v Speaker 3>cut to afterwards, I went, I haven't been in a

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<v Speaker 3>store now it's nine years. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 3>do that, and so I got to get a show

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<v Speaker 3>so somebody can buy their pants and somebody go take those.

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<v Speaker 4>In when I shoot something. That's when I got closed.

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<v Speaker 4>I have an insane foot. I have a five and

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<v Speaker 4>a half d so it's five five and a half.

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<v Speaker 4>I wear a six shoe, but five and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like those those little boxing dummies with the

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<v Speaker 3>little plastic feet that correct. So really, yes, shocked that

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<v Speaker 3>you can support your body weight.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're listening the first time, this is my foot,

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<v Speaker 4>and my foot ends here. My foot ends here.

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<v Speaker 1>Your parents and they felt to see if there was

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<v Speaker 1>room in the shoe.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred and four episodes of the Sign Felt program

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<v Speaker 4>right there, these shoes still looking good brush suede.

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<v Speaker 3>I always, I always. I always found it a bit sad,

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<v Speaker 3>little melancholy that you grow when you're growing as a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>You you hit your final shoe size, but you don't

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<v Speaker 3>know it. And if I knew it on that day,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have liked to celebrate. I'm a six, I'm an.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight, I'm a nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, it's staying then, but you don't know it

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<v Speaker 3>till you're twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a nine and a half.

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<v Speaker 4>The other the other observation this is this is, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>come on, I'm having a senior moment. Everybody loves Raymond

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<v Speaker 4>ray it's raised joke. But his joke is I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know the first time I slept with my wife that

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<v Speaker 4>I was choosing my side.

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<v Speaker 3>For the rest of our time. To get that, which

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<v Speaker 3>is so true. It's these decisions you never realize is

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<v Speaker 3>the decision. Here's a phenomenon that I and my wife

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<v Speaker 3>cannot figure out. We have our sides, and if we

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<v Speaker 3>move to another house, it's the same. But when we

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<v Speaker 3>go to a hotel, we switch it and not delivered it.

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<v Speaker 3>Not like, hey, let's freshen things up.

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<v Speaker 4>My wife gets the side closest to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why there is a slight element of macho. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>have the closest to the door so I can protect you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so as first to go out, she's the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I just feel feel I never say it

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<v Speaker 1>that way, but the really hotels do change up.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll go interesting. We switched we didn't know why.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you're some of your biggest I mean really

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<v Speaker 4>some of your home runs are in really serious stuff

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<v Speaker 4>like does that surprise you or did you go nope,

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<v Speaker 4>I got this, no problem.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it surprised me. I didn't really think too

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<v Speaker 3>much about it. I remember, I mean it was really

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<v Speaker 3>Aliens was the first thing. And it wasn't that it

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<v Speaker 3>was dramatic so much.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was certainly non comedic, but I looked at it

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<v Speaker 3>more as like this is gonna be a huge this

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<v Speaker 3>is like oh absolutely, yeah, well Alien. The first one

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<v Speaker 3>was Jim Cameron had done, Done, terminated. I wrote, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's my home run right there, and then I read

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<v Speaker 3>the script and go wow yeah. And so I remember

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<v Speaker 3>reading it thinking, hey, I have no business being in

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<v Speaker 3>this movie. But it was I've never had this experience

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<v Speaker 3>since I was out of breath reading it goes oh

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<v Speaker 3>really yeah. It was just and it was written sort

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<v Speaker 3>of like haiku, you know, bam slam metal on Metal Dog,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was it's just visual. You could see it

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<v Speaker 3>and hear it. And to my mission statement for myself

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<v Speaker 3>was just be do whatever you have to do so

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<v Speaker 3>that when you're on screen the film doesn't come to

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<v Speaker 3>a grinding halt.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the bar.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, just if people just go all right, he's

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<v Speaker 3>in a movie, you know, so what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, coach?

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<v Speaker 4>But did you have to go get it or was

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<v Speaker 4>it an offer?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it wasn't an offer. No, Im I met with

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Cameron. I don't know that I read. Maybe I did.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it was a long period of months because

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<v Speaker 3>they had to they had to look at every actor

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<v Speaker 3>in the UK. They shot it in London and apparently

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<v Speaker 3>there is no one on the continent there the can

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<v Speaker 3>do what I did. So they came back and so

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<v Speaker 3>what I had kind of forgotten about it is like

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<v Speaker 3>you're usually here in a week. This is months. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I was shooting some the thing and my manager

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<v Speaker 3>shows up, you got it? What alien?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 3>Really so I knew it was. I mean, I was anxious.

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was nervous. I want them to do well an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting thing that you will certainly appreciate as an act.

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<v Speaker 3>As it turns out, the first week or two of

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<v Speaker 3>my shooting of the schedule, I was in scenes, but

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<v Speaker 3>I had no lines. So as a comic, as a

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<v Speaker 3>performing you know, what do I do? But it made

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<v Speaker 3>me think deeper. For the first I was what are

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<v Speaker 3>you doing? What do you and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>telegraph on you know, but so how do you be

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<v Speaker 3>so that anytime that they get you, you're And by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, maybe absolutely nothing is the right choice. But

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<v Speaker 3>I never had to think at that level because like,

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<v Speaker 3>usually you can skate on your performance, on your lines,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Right performance, but you show up and you sell likable

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<v Speaker 1>and trustworthy, and then when you reveal that you're not, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fast. I mean Stranger Things is kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>same mae.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the things that I think they were trying to

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<v Speaker 3>ride off of that image of like, we don't trust

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<v Speaker 3>this guy and he's replacing Matthew Modin and he was terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, his character was evil. So who turns out

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<v Speaker 3>maybe not so much evil, But it's funny. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Cameron saying that he wanted someone who the audience

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really know, you know, wasn't gonna be a big star,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was also somebody that would be amiable and

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<v Speaker 3>you'd like him, and you wouldn't you wouldn't be suspicious.

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<v Speaker 3>My recollection is that people in the minute I showed

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<v Speaker 3>one that's wrong. Something's not right with this guy. Because

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<v Speaker 3>also the people were so trained to not like corporate people,

0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.520
<v Speaker 3>the corporate weasel. And it's sort of like the guest

0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:47.719
<v Speaker 3>star on Star Trek Ugly he's gonna be dead, yes, right,

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 3>shirt guy. Yeah, one of these things is not like

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<v Speaker 3>the other.

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<v Speaker 1>But you do sell it. I mean you do sell

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 1>it like you and in a big way. And obviously

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 1>they looked at eight billion people Games Town could have

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<v Speaker 1>a casting list that forever forever to decide, Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing. It's pretty amazing, right it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know, there is a life to that movie

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<v Speaker 3>that I never I mean, it was a big hit

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:13.679
<v Speaker 3>and people would often remember recognize. But there are conventions

0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.359
<v Speaker 3>that are you know sci fis and comic cons and

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 3>that I've been to and I'll meet people. Go, I

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.400
<v Speaker 3>watched that movie every Saturday for the last thirty six years.

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 3>Get out of the house, do something, get a job,

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:25.359
<v Speaker 3>don't tap.

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<v Speaker 1>Paper by the way, somebody does, Well, who shows up?

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Do they have someone? Did people dress up as the yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, they dress up in aliens, they dress up

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.920
<v Speaker 3>on the full stuff and they bring in props that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going is that from the actual movie. Its like

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<v Speaker 3>some of them they are, Yeah, it's and it's I

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.920
<v Speaker 3>mean it speaks to the success of that of what

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<v Speaker 3>a good movie it was, and it still holds if

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<v Speaker 3>you you know, I'll catch up. Wow, it's and so

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 3>many movies after that sort of stood on the show.

0:23:57.480 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing being something that's that iconic. And I'm wondering.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're you're at home writing stuff and you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>stand up and then you do Mad About You. There's

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:05.960
<v Speaker 1>no guarantee it's going to be a hit. How many

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<v Speaker 1>episodes in and you went, whoa, this thing is got

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 1>some heat. Was it immediate or would it take a while?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a there's two different ways to look at it.

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I knew immediately it was going to be good, and

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 3>I knew the minute. I just Helen Hunt came over

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<v Speaker 3>to my house and we read it in my house

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 3>before she even agreed to audition, and I just went, ah,

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 3>this feels special. And then we did the pilot. Well

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.639
<v Speaker 3>everybody and the audience are like, yeah, this is working.

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Is it going to be a hit that you don't know?

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 3>And because we didn't, you know it was actually initially

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 3>we were paired and the timing was it was we oh,

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Jerry's show was just beginning to take off, so like,

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 3>oh New York Jewish comic in New York, and what happened,

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 3>And but we weren't guaranteed anything like a second season.

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.680
<v Speaker 3>They go, you should have a baby, went no, no, no,

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 3>that's no good to get. And I think it wasn't

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 3>really till the end of the second season when they go, Okay,

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna go but the first season, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you do twelve and then we'll pick up the back

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 3>nine and second season they was still trying to but

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 3>by the third season they would take their hands off

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:18.640
<v Speaker 3>and say, you guys obviously know what you're doing.

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>And did you have to take notes from network or

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 1>did you do much like Larry where you said I'm

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>quitting if you try and give me a note.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I just I just had lunch with Helen Hunt

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 3>and were laughing. She said, you have a real allergy

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 3>to notes, like, yeah, I can't. Can't so much so

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 3>that when we did the the revisit five years ago,

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Helen and Peter Tolan itself and we were like it

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 3>was really a well oiled trio. But it was like

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:48.359
<v Speaker 3>you guys do the meeting. I can't.

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't.

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll soil myself. I said, they'll give you twenty things.

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:54.640
<v Speaker 3>If three of them makes sense to you, let's talk

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 3>about the three, but don't I can't hear the other ones. Yeah,

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 3>I just it's just how was it in the initial

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 3>run though?

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<v Speaker 4>How do you could you push back against it or

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 4>did you have to?

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<v Speaker 3>It was? You know, I had a partner, Danny Jacobson

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 3>and Danny Danes, and often he would, you know, vet

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 3>them and so here's a good one. And sometimes they

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<v Speaker 3>were good and sometimes often they're just execs who feel

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 3>like they have to, yeah, put their fingerprints on it,

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Like what if you do remember one it was a

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 3>network guy?

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>What if?

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 3>What if Paul? What if what if your character was

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 3>chewing gum? He could what if he had toast? How

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 3>does that help you? Is that a better show? Is

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 3>there a Toast demo that you're trying to get? But

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 3>they also you know, but we knew early on. I

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 3>think it was this. Certainly in the first season we did.

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 3>We knew that the success of the show. We wanted jokes,

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 3>we wanted laughs, we wanted you know, fun, but it

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 3>was the small stuff that people would tuning into and

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 3>and we did. And I've often talked about this is

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 3>that we did a the highest concept show. You always

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 3>saw a siphoned it's a show about nothing, and we

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 3>always say wow. Show was about the small things, the

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 3>little things, a little thing. And then we had the

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 3>biggest concept ever. It was I invested in a virtual

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 3>reality thing. But the issue was I invested our money

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't speak to her, didn't check it with

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 3>the wife. And we come back when in bed and

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:29.640
<v Speaker 3>we're just it's just a two shot, the two idiots

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 3>sitting up in bed, and I said, you're not trying

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 3>to talk them into I said, you can do anything.

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 3>You could. You could you could ski, you could you

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 3>could climb a mountain, you could water, you could go

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 3>in the ocean. And she's warming up, she does, what

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 3>did you pick? I said, I got a massage from

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 3>Christy Brinkley, and Helen just cocked her head ever so slightly,

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 3>and I got a huge laugh and went yes, because

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 3>the show is about not what you did, it's like

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 3>what the other person feels about. When she cocked her head,

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 3>I went, hm, hmm, this is gonna work.

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 4>But can I if I'm the man, I think I

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 4>may have delivered Helen Hunter, because as she was considering

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 4>the show, I think she had already. I think she

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 4>had the offer on it. I found myself doing a

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 4>short film that she was producing, and she was in

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 4>and we were having lunch, and she said, I think

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 4>I may have delivered Helen Hunt here because as she

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 4>was considering the show, I think she had already. I

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 4>think she had the offer on it. I found myself

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 4>doing a short film that she was producing, and she

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 4>was in and we were having lunch, and she said,

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 4>would I like doing the sitcom? I said, well, what's

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 4>the sitcom? She said, well, it's Paul Riserd.

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>What what I mean? What is it an audience?

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 3>She's yeah.

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 4>I said, it's the best job you're ever going to have.

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 4>Are you on the writing team? She said, I don't know. No,

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 4>it's the best job you're ever gonna have. Why wouldn't

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 4>you do it?

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Are you?

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 4>Is it ensemble? She said? What's two hands with Paul?

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Of course?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, of course, Joe, thanks.

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know her.

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 3>She was starting at that It was ninety two and

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 3>she was starting to get some heat in movies. She

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 3>worked as a teenager and done a lot of teen movies,

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 3>and she was really on a roll. And I met

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 3>her because my wife and they had a mutual friend.

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 3>And we met at a little dinner party and I went,

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 3>while I was writing it, I'm going, and she didn't.

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't at all. Doesn't look like my wife was

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 3>not at all what I was picturing. But I left home.

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 3>She's really intriguing. She's funny, she's lovely. She's just the

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 3>right amount of goofy and neurotic, just the perfect amount.

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 3>And I remember I turned to Paula and I said,

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 3>what do you think of her? As you she want

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 3>it'll be good. But Helen's fear was that it was,

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, going to be the wife in Gabe Cott

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 3>and Welcome Back. Got her Yeah, like you know that

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 3>you ever hear the one about the money. But but

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 3>we were so saying. She came to my house, he

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 3>had read the script and then we I said, well

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 3>let's read it together. And then at that very first meeting,

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 3>before she had even said yes, we talked about I said,

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 3>I want to do a show.

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>We have to do.

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, we had somewhere in this relationship story, one

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 3>of them has to have an affair or the threat

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 3>of an affair, and I said, and I figured who

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 3>said it first, But we each had the same idea,

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 3>like we have to do one shot, how about a

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 3>one whole episode of one shot? And we're like yes,

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 3>and we tried and it wasn't until year five we

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 3>found a story that could do that. But we had

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 3>the same show in mind. So thanks for pushing her

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 3>over the fence. Now it was it was just kismet.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 3>I got to do a guest on the reboot. You

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 3>did us an honor.

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 4>I had a great time and Michael And that's the thing,

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 4>because we were going to say Mike, Mike was shore, right,

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 4>Mike Richards.

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Mike Richards did an episode. Yeah, yeah, it's always Jerry

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 3>did an episode two?

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 4>Did he really?

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 3>We shot for a summer Yeah, we did.

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 3>We did a shot in New York and it was

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 3>literally a cameo.

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>We walked by and.

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 3>My character had taken a viagara and it was very

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 3>pronounced and you never shot below here, but you could

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 3>tell something something wrong. And I said, hey, Jarry, walk

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 3>on the street.

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>How you doing.

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 3>He's like, basically there was that.

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>And then you lead the weird but big fan. The

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>weird and interesting thing I remember in launching it was

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Lisa Cooper being on two shows. Yeah, which was fascinating

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that how did that happen that she could stay on your.

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like how did Michael McDonald be on The Dobie

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 3>and the Doobie Brothers and Steely Days.

0:31:57.920 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about.

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 3>But Lisa Kudrou Somewhere in the first season we did

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 3>a flashback, like you know, to before I met Jamie.

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 3>I was having I hated blind dates and I had

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 3>the worst blind date. It was with Lisa Kudro and

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 3>we just cast on. It wasn't that much on the page.

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 3>She was so funny. She as we know, but I

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 3>mean her line readings. We were just having this stilted

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 3>conversation on a first date and blind date and.

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you what do you do?

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm a documentary filmmaker. She goes, Oh, that's so funny.

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm a banker. I'm like, why why did you hit

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 3>that so hard? That doesn't make sense? She was, and

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 3>we said we have to get her back, and so

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 3>we made her not that character, but we brought her

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 3>a back as she was the waitress in the place

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 3>and I remember the day she said she's going to

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 3>audition for another show because we only had it for

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 3>like a few episodes. It was no, we didn't have her,

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 3>And I said, what's the other show? It's like six

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 3>friends and they all live in New York in the

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 3>same building with that's not going anywhere. And then they

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 3>embraced it. So they made her twin sisters. That yeah,

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 3>but she she had such an odd, delicious delivery.

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned Michael McDonald, You right, it's one of

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>those things that go to Michael McDonald has done my

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>book with Paul Righter. Okay, how does that? How does

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>that happen?

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 3>That's the most natural thing in the world, Peter, you

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 3>know it's it's not the first comedian a musician uh

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 3>to write a book. Luciana Patti and carrat Top.

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Did I love that? That was which was the musician

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>He was going to prop opera at that time, and

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Carrot Top said, I can help you, okay, all right,

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, by the way a book.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Leonard Burnsneine and Emo Phillips. So I was a

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<v Speaker 3>huge fan of Michael McDonald and we met at a

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 3>silly a party that I was invited to he was performing.

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 3>It was in somebody's house, and we walked into this

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Michael like, this guy's doing well, he's got Michael McDonald.

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 3>Is that his house guest musician? And I just went

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<v Speaker 3>over to him and started chatting, and we became friends.

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 3>And I would always ask him these things like exactly that,

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't understand what you could be in two bands?

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Don't don't they want to hold on you? And so

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 3>I would ask him these questions over the years, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'd forget the answers, and I said, you should

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<v Speaker 3>write a book so I don't have to bother you

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 3>every time I have a question. And he said, you know,

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 3>I've been approached. I don't know if I even have

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 3>a story. And I go, you have a story, because

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to write a book. I said,

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 3>I've written books. I'll help you. So it was it

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 3>was literally March twenty twenty COVID lockdown. We had nothing

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 3>to do and we had no jobs, and we both

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 3>had to figure out how to work zoom.

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 4>It was like then is you can see each other technology?

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 3>And we just we didn't even meet for three years.

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 3>We just would He spent about a month talking like this,

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and I'd take the tape, I'd record it and type

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 3>it up. So it's his story and I just helped him.

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 3>But it was interesting because he would go, I don't

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 3>think that's interesting. I go, trust me, that's really interesting.

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 3>And then other times he goes, this is so fun

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.439
<v Speaker 3>I go, it is funny. Does not in the book.

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating when telling your story, I guess, did you

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:24.720
<v Speaker 1>have revelations as you've written books, you've written best sellers,

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the stuff happened when you're writing a book. It's like

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>when you're writing a script for the first time, and

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like an out of body experience. Something gets written

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, I didn't know I had that in me.

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know.

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 3>I fired that. Yeah, well in this, in his case,

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, there was new. We were just doing it

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 3>on spec Let's see IF and I and the safety net.

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 3>I said, I said a minute, you don't enjoy this,

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Well stop, I said, doesn't have to.

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>You know this.

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 3>It costs us nothing to sit and have a coffee

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 3>on zoom. But what he discovered is that by the

0:35:58.600 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 3>end of it, he said, oh, I do have a

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 3>story tell Because he is very humble, and he he

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 3>felt that his greatest stories were having worked with all

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 3>these different people. I go that in itself is you

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 3>know who else can say that? I worked with Ray

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Charles and Quincy Jones and you know everyone else. But suddenly,

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 3>as the more he talked, these through lines come up

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 3>where he It was sort of an exercise for him

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 3>of realizing how did he get here? You know? Seventy two?

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 3>And he started working professionally at fourteen in a band,

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 3>in like eighteen piece band. He's fourteen and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>tell me there's a tape I want to hear fourteen

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 3>year old who? He said, now sadly deadly? The tapes

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 3>were in a jacket that was martinized. You know what

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 3>that's wrong?

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I remember markin Wow.

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Do you know what that joke is? Hun from the

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 3>in Laws? Tch flies with beachs? Yeah, did you get picture?

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 3>They were left in a jacket that was mutt and

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<v Speaker 3>you bos worked with Peter Falk?

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 3>What did you do with peterful?

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 4>I did a play with a two persons play with

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<v Speaker 4>Peter at the I saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was there, Okay, here's a magic night.

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>It was great.

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 3>And he makes his entrance from the back of the theater. Right.

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 3>So here's this magical night. I grew up a door

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 3>at Peter Fork, Peter Fock. He I just I loved him,

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 3>and I had this idea for years I've been sitting

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 3>on and would take a stab at I got to

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 3>write a movie where Peter Fox plays my father. I

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 3>don't know what the story is, but Peter Fowk is

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 3>my father. That's a story. That's something I gotta do.

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 3>I see you in that play and I loved it.

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 3>I loved you, loved Peter. I go backstage, I guess

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 3>to say a lot of you. I didn't know him,

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:39.360
<v Speaker 3>and I went and at that I was, you know,

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm mad about you know. I was doing commercials and

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 3>so Peter says, I love you. I go, he goes,

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 3>and he goes, I love everything you do. I love

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 3>your show. He says, I love what you write. And

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 3>I go and I'm just like, think you think, And

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 3>he just makes a point, goes, I love what you write,

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 3>like made it like you said it twice someone, thank

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 3>you God. Like. I literally went home and I said,

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 3>I got to write this thing. If Peter fo I mean,

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 3>it was such a moment of the sky's open up.

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I said, here's the guy I've been wanting to write for.

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.959
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't know I've never discussed it, and he's saying,

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 3>go write it. And then I wrote it pretty quickly

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 3>after ifter sitting on it for years, it came out

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 3>pretty quickly. I dropped it off at his house. Somebody

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.280
<v Speaker 3>gave him told me, Joe Montagna goes, here's his address,

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 3>and I called him and said, I'll read it. He goes,

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm a slow reader. I said about it. I dropped

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 3>it off on his at his house and I sid

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:40.879
<v Speaker 3>by the phone and he said, I'm going to read

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 3>it right away. And by eleven o'clock at night, I

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:49.879
<v Speaker 3>got I take the dog out, the dog come back

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 3>phone on the answer machine and I go, I missed it,

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 3>and I listened to the message, and it's just Peter going, well,

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 3>we got to.

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Make this thing.

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 3>I went and I and that would have been enough,

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 3>you know. I was like, I don't have to make it.

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 3>The fact that he read it, he said it and

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 3>it was the greatest was.

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Do you have a good time with him.

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 3>He's not the easiest guy, but he took a shine

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 3>to me. He somehow knew how much I loved him,

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 3>so I was in a little zone of safety. He

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 3>chewed to spare the director and anybody else. But I

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 3>found I imagine you found this true. All he was

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 3>he was not an ass.

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 1>He just was really.

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Cared about the work, and he wanted to do his

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 3>best work.

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 4>I found, I absolutely, I believe that's true. I would

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 4>also go so far as to say, and this might

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 4>have come with age, because I worked, you know, we

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 4>worked with him. He was he was getting up there.

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 4>I thought there was like much like my dad, who

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 4>would who and they would have been contemporaries. They were

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 4>not allowed to say, you know, I'm nervous or I'm scared.

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 4>So it so in Loua of being able to say

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 4>that everything else was wrong, everything else was not right,

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 4>The set's not right, the director's wrong. The story is

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 4>the thing that dad dad, And if you took the

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:16.840
<v Speaker 4>time to go, well, what would you like to do?

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 4>How would you like to fix it? How should we

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 4>address it? He couldn't articulate. That's how I knew it

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 4>wasn't those things. Because he's very bright, and he was

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 4>an artist. He was a beautiful painter, and you know,

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 4>so he knew about details. If he knew something was wrong,

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 4>he would have spoken to it. And I found him

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 4>to be fearful. And there was a complete personality change

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 4>in him after our first audience. Once he knew that

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 4>he knew what he was doing to display and it

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 4>was reflected back to him, he became a totally different.

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense.

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 3>There was a documentary about Brando and and I love

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 3>this story that uh that street car on the waterfront,

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 3>the famous Rod Steiger scene that could have been a contender.

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Brando didn't want to do the scene right well you

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 3>know the story I heard it from Stiger you win, no,

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 3>no please, But basically he didn't want to do the

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 3>scene and he couldn't articulate it, couldn't articulate it. And

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Eliot Kazantz was the thing. And he goes, oh, he's

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.360
<v Speaker 3>got the gun and he's pointing at me, like, I

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 3>don't know if I wouldn't do all that if the

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 3>gun is at me, And the director goes, well, what if,

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:31.959
<v Speaker 3>like after the first line, you pushed the gun away

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 3>and Branda goes, okay, it was that simple. The fix

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 3>was that he is but throw out the whole scene

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 3>because this.

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't work and then he didn't stay there to do

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 4>the coverage Fortier.

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>So I'm up one night and we talked about this.

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:47.479
<v Speaker 1>Prior to I watched this movie is a problem with people.

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea what to expect. And I'm laughing

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 1>out loud, but what a sweet movie. But reading about

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you talking about it, if I get this right, you

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 1>your premise is the people's default or default are at

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:05.879
<v Speaker 1>the anger, any discomfort.

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Any two people will put them in a room, they'll

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 3>find some reason to argue, argue. It's like that all

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 3>the joke you see that that ano the synagogue, I

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't go to. It's that.

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>So that was and then and then you work through

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 1>it and find out if you do hang with each other,

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you're more like that person.

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 3>They're not well I think you know, I always, I never.

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm not. I haven't read and I'm not well read

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 3>enough to know the difference between all the religions, and like, okay,

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 3>but if you take the head of Sunny and you

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 3>know and she it, so what what is the difference,

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 3>So the Presbyterians and Episcopas, the difference is.

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>What like what?

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 3>And I remember, you know, part of the impetus The

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 3>impetus for the movie was the Problem with People is

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 3>the name of the movie. You can find it on

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 3>iTunes and Amazon Prime. I just wanted to go to

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Ireland because I loved Ireland and I and I had

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 3>seen Local Hero, which was in a nod to it

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 3>in the movie. But I never had a story and

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't come up with it. And finally I said, well,

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:11.840
<v Speaker 3>what if there's a And I wrote it with a

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 3>buddy who I never met but somebody suggested him as

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 3>a writer, and we came up with there's got to

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 3>be a reason conflict. So what are There's two relatives

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 3>who've both grew up not liking the other one just

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 3>because their parents told him not to. It's like, okay,

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 3>that sounds rich, and how do they come together? So

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 3>but one of the impetuses that moved me I remember

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 3>reading a story over ten years ago in Israel. There

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 3>was a school that was literally down the middle and

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 3>half of it was Orthodox and half of it was Sectarium.

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 3>But they shared in the yard. They shared a sandbox,

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 3>so the little two year old Orthodox kids would be

0:43:56.040 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 3>sitting in the sandbox would do non religious and religious

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 3>people made a line in the sandbox, so the kids

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:09.360
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't meet. And I thought, okay, you know, you're afraid

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 3>that your two year old will enjoy and that's why

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 3>the end of the movie is children in the Sandbox.

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:18.399
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think at bottom line, what do people want? Oh,

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 3>I'd like to not get shot and I to not

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 3>blow up me too. I'd like my children to be safe.

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Same here.

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 3>All right, so we got that covered. What's the you know?

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:34.879
<v Speaker 3>And then but we get stuck on your grandfather said

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.280
<v Speaker 3>something about my grandfather. You know, I had my family,

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 3>my mother for years with sort of bad mouth one

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 3>of my relatives older and I never knew why. And

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 3>I said, what is the thing? She goes, Yeah, she

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:49.440
<v Speaker 3>said something I didn't care for. I said when was that?

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 3>She goes nineteen forty seven. I went, okay, let it go.

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>But what do you so?

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm asking for all kinds of reasons, both selfish and not.

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.840
<v Speaker 4>But what is next for you? And what do you

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 4>want it? You've I hate to be one of them.

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<v Speaker 4>You've done it, Paul Rosie, you've done it all. But

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<v Speaker 4>what do you Is there something that you go? Boy,

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<v Speaker 4>before I hang this up, I'd really like to do

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<v Speaker 4>that that kind of a role, work with that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of person, go back to the stage, do another series.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think? What do you like? I really

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a big fan of doing nothing and nothing makes

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<v Speaker 3>me happy. And they do another I won't see you

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<v Speaker 3>though as a sitting star. Yeah, but I really love

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<v Speaker 3>like on a given day. And I've really gotten into

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<v Speaker 3>last couple years reading, like reading and buying books like

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<v Speaker 3>if I live to be one hundred, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to finish the books. I why are you buying? Will

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<v Speaker 3>buy because I might not like that one. But I

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes I'll have an idea and I don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>burning passion to do something. There's a part of me

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<v Speaker 3>that still thinks I want to do my music, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've never really somewhere I believe like I have one

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<v Speaker 3>piece of music or some music that I want to

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<v Speaker 3>put out. I've done, I've written songs with people, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think, oh, i'd love to you know, when I

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<v Speaker 3>hear a great instrumental soundtracking and going, that's the thing

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<v Speaker 3>that lasts forever, Like Okay, you know he already wrote

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<v Speaker 3>Cinema Paradiesel, But maybe I could write something that would

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<v Speaker 3>make you pull over and weep. So that's like a

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<v Speaker 3>sort of wish, But I don't sit at home thinking

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<v Speaker 3>where I wanted. I mean, I'm happy to go out

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<v Speaker 3>and do stand up. It's like I would love that

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<v Speaker 3>to take off. I would love to play a little

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<v Speaker 3>bigger and more frequently, but until something comes up, like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually writing a show with my son that we

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<v Speaker 3>actually sold and I went, okay, this is this, and

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<v Speaker 3>that it was somebody else came to me. They not

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<v Speaker 3>the idea, but just the invitation. We'd like you to

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<v Speaker 3>do a show. You want to write a show with me? Yeah, okay,

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 3>and we so that even if it goes no where,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, all right, I'm gonna write.

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<v Speaker 1>But by the way, for somebody who likes to do nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>I write a show. As you said, write a show

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<v Speaker 1>is starting. You got the Boys coming out, you got

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<v Speaker 1>stranger things coming out. You're probably writing some screenplay that

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<v Speaker 1>you'll I mean, you're really busy, but you don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you're busy.

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I'm gonna let you behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. On one hand, you know, you do publicity,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is this isn't even publicity because I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>promoting anything. We're just chatting. But du perlicicity. You want

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<v Speaker 3>people to run out and see the things, and and

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:24.799
<v Speaker 3>oh he's so busy. You got to go see this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>The Boys I did four days a week ago. Stranger

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<v Speaker 3>Things I did two years ago. It's not like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>we watched it all on one week. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 3>did it over three years. But you're also stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>You see it.

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<v Speaker 3>They see it like somebody's t shirt. Like in the back,

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<v Speaker 3>here's the sixty cities they're doing every other weekend. I

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<v Speaker 3>go somewhere for two days, like, I'm not hurting anything.

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<v Speaker 4>If I sent you the right thing, would you do

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<v Speaker 4>a show in New York?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, because I'm kind of itching to like go to

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<v Speaker 3>New York to live in New York. Yeah, every time

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<v Speaker 3>me when I'm there for like a few days and

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<v Speaker 3>nice to be. I think at this point in life,

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<v Speaker 3>to spend the six months what a show? A Broadway show?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my life has moved sort of to directing for

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<v Speaker 4>the theater.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the premise of your episode on the Mat

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<v Speaker 3>about You. That's right, because like Jason, he goes, I

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<v Speaker 3>have to get Sigourney Weaver and and so, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>watching Helen's sister's dog and Sigourney, I forget what it was.

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<v Speaker 4>We remember, Sigourney Weaver was, yeah, we got to run.

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<v Speaker 1>But look at this. The whole purpose of the show

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<v Speaker 1>was to get you on Broadway and have this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand. I I you know, I never say no

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<v Speaker 3>to anything, but I mean I never said no to

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<v Speaker 3>the possibility or something. I can't imagine doing a show. Uh,

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 3>it's I want to work. And Larry, they gotta be awake,

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 3>you gotta be limber or wait one.

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<v Speaker 4>Day I will write down because it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 4>great story. Where and Peter was with me Larry David

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<v Speaker 4>when he was gonna go do the play that he

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<v Speaker 4>wrote in New York. He called and Larry and I

0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 4>don't socialize all that much. He called me saying we'll

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<v Speaker 4>take it lunch. And I go to lunch and I go,

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<v Speaker 4>what is this going to be? And he goes, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing the play. Am I gonna like this? And

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 4>you go, what happens? How does this work? And I

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<v Speaker 4>literally walked him from day one of rehearsal through all

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<v Speaker 4>the rehearsals, how it would go, what previous would be like,

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<v Speaker 4>what tech would be like, good Opening night with that

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<v Speaker 4>would be like what a bad opening night?

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<v Speaker 1>What that would be like?

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<v Speaker 4>And then the next week and the next week and

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<v Speaker 4>the next week until I said, about six weeks after

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<v Speaker 4>you open on a Thursday afternoon, around one o'clock in

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:30.880
<v Speaker 4>the afternoon, as you sit in your apartment and you

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<v Speaker 4>know that you got to leave in four hours to

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<v Speaker 4>get to the theater, you'd rather drive a nice pick

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 4>through your own eye. There's no way you want to

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 4>go down there, and that you would have I had

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<v Speaker 4>it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>By about two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>He he called me four weeks you got to come in.

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<v Speaker 4>And I wound up replacing him in the show because

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<v Speaker 4>he it drove him out of his mind.

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 3>I kind of feel that not panicking, but like my

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:56.839
<v Speaker 3>agent will callim was something I'm going, I'm gonna look

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.320
<v Speaker 3>at it like ah right shoots and well, you know,

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:00.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't want.

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<v Speaker 4>To go there, like or Michael Kaine school of picking

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<v Speaker 4>up what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I stand up, I go, hey, we got it's a

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<v Speaker 3>great theater. I go, is it two flights to get there?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want the two flights.

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<v Speaker 4>I have my personal appearance, so I don't like to change.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to change playing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole William William H. Macy said, there's three

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<v Speaker 1>stages in my career. The first and when you're younger,

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this could make my career. The second

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<v Speaker 1>is how much does it pay? In? The third is

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<v Speaker 1>do I have to get wet? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Grateful? You know what?

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 4>At least they're talking about us, right, that's right?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it? Don't do that? That'll be the end?

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<v Speaker 4>No, you know what, Normally we wrap up after the show.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got nothing left to say, right, do you have

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<v Speaker 4>anything you want to add with?

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<v Speaker 1>Paul leaves behind your back like I loved you more

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<v Speaker 1>than the blue pants you wore on your special. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much. Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's another episode of Really you know, Really comes

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<v Speaker 2>to a close. I know you're wondering what comedians had

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<v Speaker 2>hit television shows more or less based on their real

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<v Speaker 2>lives or stand up backs. Well, all, Jerryrigan answer for

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<v Speaker 2>you in a moment. But first let's thank our guest

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Reiser. You can follow him at his website Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Reiser dot com or on x where he's at Paul Reiser.

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<v Speaker 2>His latest comedy special is Paul Reiser Life, Death and

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<v Speaker 3>And now the answer to the question what.

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<v Speaker 2>Comedians had hit television shows more or less based on

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<v Speaker 2>their real lives or stand up acts. Well, First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>the transition from comedian to television comedy star was never unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>Early TV got its greatest boost from the best comedians

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<v Speaker 2>of the day like Milton Burle, Jack Benny, Jimmy Durante,

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie Gleeson, and countless others, and television has managed to

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<v Speaker 2>build huge successes by grabbing great comics and creating a

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<v Speaker 2>show around their real life experiences and or their.

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<v Speaker 1>Stand up bacts.

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:33.879
<v Speaker 2>Prime examples include Home Improvement, which builds a whole show

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 2>around comic Tim Allen's bits about men and tools and

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the machismo they inspire. Roseanne, which offered a fictionalized version

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:44.279
<v Speaker 2>of Roseanne Barr's off stage life and initially borrowed heavily.

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<v Speaker 3>From her working class comedic rips.

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Everybody Loves Raymond starring Ray Romano, which took his jokes

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 2>about family life and turned them into a hit sitcom.

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 2>The Bernie Max Show, which took the real life experience

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<v Speaker 2>of Bernie fostering his sister's three kids and turned it

0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 2>into a television hit. Everybody Hates Chris was a fictionalized

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 2>version of Chris Rock's tumultuous and hysterical childhood. Comic great

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Gary Shandling's show was so much of a television transfer

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:11.839
<v Speaker 2>of his life that the show was titled It's Gary

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:15.919
<v Speaker 2>Shandling's Show. Comedy rapper Dave Byrd aka Little Dicky, found

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<v Speaker 2>television's success by turning his travails as an up and

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<v Speaker 2>coming white rapper into comedy gold. In his show Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>Before finding talk show fame. Ellen DeGeneres hit it big

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<v Speaker 2>with her sitcom Ellen. That show was such a reflection

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<v Speaker 2>of her life that her character came out as gay

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. At the same time, Ellen truly revealed

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:35.879
<v Speaker 2>herself to be a gay woman, and though short lived,

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 2>comedian John Mulaney also played himself on his self titled

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<v Speaker 2>show Mulaney and I'm leaving out many like NewART Cosby Chappelle,

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Jamie Fox, Louis c. K, Robin Williams, and Moore because

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<v Speaker 2>the list is long and formidable, But I have to

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<v Speaker 2>go out on probably the most successful show ever to

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<v Speaker 2>feature a stand up comic playing more or less himself,

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry Seinfeld. In Seinfeld.

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<v Speaker 3>By many measurements, it is one of the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Successful half hour shows in televison in history and earned

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<v Speaker 2>multiple Enny Awards for each of its cast members. Wait what, oh, oh, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just being told that one of the cast members

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<v Speaker 2>actually was nominated seven times but never actually won. Well

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<v Speaker 2>that is embarrassing, but don't feel bad. That guy probably

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<v Speaker 2>is a podcast and.

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<v Speaker 3>What more could anyone ever really want? Really, it really

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