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Speaker 1: First question we asked everybody is when you first got

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Speaker 1: your ass?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Great question. First person I would say would be Charles Barkley.

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Speaker 2: Chuck Yeah, man, Chuck Man.

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Speaker 3: I remember the time like washing Charles obviously as a

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Speaker 3: But then the night before the game, my agent David

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Speaker 3: is coming. So I'm like, hold on, man, I'm not

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Speaker 3: about to go out here for Charles Barkley and have

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Speaker 3: of my heroes, the god I respect, because I don't

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Speaker 3: dinner that make me sound like a fan. Then he

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Speaker 3: going to be soft or I'm going to be fratnizing

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Speaker 3: you or befraying him. You know, we competitors, and you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, I had that old school like type of

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Speaker 3: in Chicago. So he convinced me. I went with him,

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Speaker 3: and uh, well, as we're at dinner, you know, we

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Speaker 3: and it was very you know, helpful. So we go

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Speaker 3: out and play the game. I think he gonna be

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm ready to go, and I'm you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to compete. And you know, I just say

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Speaker 3: what's up to him at the jump ball and then

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Speaker 3: let's go with it. Man, I tell you he was

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Speaker 3: one of the most craftiest dudes that I ever played against.

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Speaker 3: It was like, every time he got the ball, if

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Speaker 3: I didn't foil him, I got up for a shot

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Speaker 3: fake and he maybe drew a foul, And he drew

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Speaker 3: a foul it was an a one. Or if I

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Speaker 3: whether in my path and he drew offensive file and

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Speaker 3: I was on the bench and I was so upset

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Speaker 3: I'm like, see, I should have never went to dinner.

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Speaker 3: I forget how much he scored that day, but you know,

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Speaker 3: I know it was definitely he got the victory and

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Speaker 3: he got the best of me. I remember, you know

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Speaker 3: Charles with that dude. Man, yo yo yo.

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Speaker 4: We live on location, me and b Mile still here

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Speaker 4: in Orlando.

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Speaker 2: We got a.

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Speaker 4: Very very special guest from my hometown Shottown in the

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Speaker 4: building to day, coming to us live from Anne Arbor

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Speaker 4: at his current location. We got mister Michigan, mister fab

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Speaker 4: five hour o g one of the best dudes to

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, fellas, appreciate it. Man the honor

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Speaker 3: to be on here with you guys today. Much love.

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Speaker 2: Brought to you by Dying Style.

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Speaker 1: First off, we're gonna thank you for coming on the show. Man,

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Speaker 1: like watching you come from Chicago to Michigan and your

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Speaker 1: seeing your career and seeing where you're at now. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm proud to be You're proud for you to be

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Speaker 2: Thank you outside no doubt. Man, Well that means a lot. Man.

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Speaker 3: First, first and foremost, I want to say to you guys,

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Speaker 3: man that I'm so proud of y'all man as far

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Speaker 3: as the growth. And I remember, you know, when I

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Speaker 3: a lot of newspaper clippings about Chicago basketball and de Miles.

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Speaker 3: You know, even though you're from East Saint Louis And

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Speaker 3: I don't want the East Saint Louis listeners to get

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Speaker 3: you know every time, I'm always rapping Shottown and you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, uh, many of questioned, you know, his skill

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Speaker 3: Paul you know, from that class that you played with.

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Speaker 3: I'm from Michigan, man, all the way through the heart.

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Speaker 3: When I've seen that the Paul class are all shot

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Speaker 3: town dudes, man, I was so happy. I was your

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Speaker 3: you guys joined together with the Clippers. Oh wow, Like

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Speaker 3: I played against y'all, but I was like, yo, every summer,

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I'm just so happy to be blessed to be in

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Speaker 3: y'all presence. And that's real. And I'm not just saying

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Speaker 3: it make the sound good, but all right, that's real.

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Speaker 2: I love y'all, bro Man, I appreciate oj Man. Love

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Speaker 4: But hearing you say that is the biggest dog because,

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Speaker 4: like I say all the time when people ask me,

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Speaker 4: you know, who was influence you on you coming up

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Speaker 4: and this, that and the third, it was a lot

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Speaker 4: and feeing with the picture of what it was supposed

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Speaker 2: For me and I become an og.

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Speaker 4: I want to be viewed how y'all be viewed, how

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Speaker 1: We'll took my shirt in, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I won't took my shirt in when I'm moving. You know,

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Speaker 1: I grew up in the Illinois history. We got so

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Speaker 1: much history of Illinois ballers before us. Before you got

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Speaker 1: They was like, man, when I get to high school,

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Speaker 3: Great question, Marcus Liberty.

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Speaker 2: Marcus Liberty, Liberty, bro.

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Speaker 3: You know everyone talked about Wilson and Benji. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I didn't really get a chance to watch him play

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Speaker 3: I watched live play in person when I was in

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Speaker 2: Shoot it like his guard. Man loan man a picture him.

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Speaker 4: Onliner it was like a throwback of picture with Him

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Speaker 4: i Saw liberty on. Tape that's. Tape the finger roll was.

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Speaker 4: Crazy Finger roll was, sick you.

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Speaker 3: Know the Finger roll was like the Gurb, iceman but

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Speaker 2: Yo that. Dude, man that's the. Dude.

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Speaker 3: MAN i want to grow up AND i want to

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Speaker 3: every award he. WINS i want to win that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah and he was the one that inspired. Me, Man

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: YEAH i used to watch tapes Of, liberty uh when

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Speaker 1: Finals So ellis now in The, downstate and my coach

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Speaker 1: liberty was wearing a house arrests ankling on his ankle

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Speaker 1: to judge let him play, it go down To state

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Speaker 3: Moment but y'all have one dude, too, man that you

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Speaker 3: KNOW i got to get love. To it Was farns Of.

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Speaker 3: Ellis The farns Of ellis was that dude, man you,

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Speaker 3: twelve to sixteen month. Recovery But milfonso was that dog.

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Speaker 4: MAN i don't remember the one highlight WHEN i think

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Speaker 4: he's playing For denver when somebody tried to come dunk

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Speaker 4: on him and he literally just cat that.

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Speaker 1: LOOKED i was, LIKE i, SAY i grew up on

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Speaker 1: the history and like that was the GUY i. Chased

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Speaker 1: who it. Was the history was embedded in me because

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Speaker 1: he won them state championships three in the row back.

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Speaker 3: them BUT i was, like, yo, This i'm Not Foe. Ellis, man.

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Speaker 2: You don't even know, that BUT i was, like, WOW

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Speaker 1: Fan you're talking about you wanted to be in the

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Speaker 1: McDonald's All american came and, like you, know that's the

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Speaker 3: You, oh that was a great, experience. Man you, KNOW

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Speaker 3: i was fortunate enough to have Like Chris, Webber Jalen,

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Speaker 2: Americans they looked out for y'all to.

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Speaker 3: Be it was meant to, be SO i think. So

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Speaker 3: too SO i didn't even. Start that's how our team,

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Speaker 3: CARE i came off the. BENCH i got work here

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Speaker 3: Considered like when you make it to the McDonald's All american,

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Speaker 3: game you're on a big, stage, right you know you

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Speaker 3: AND i know your, name and then you know you

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Speaker 2: Country how was that coming from South? Side is? It

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Speaker 2: It's jeffrey manor? Right?

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Speaker 3: No, ACTUALLY i grew up in loading. Homes, ooh loading homes,

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Speaker 4: College so you you just missed The huntings you still

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Speaker 4: you just missed it about five, blocks you, know you're

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Speaker 2: There it's all.

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Speaker 3: Good, YEAH i got much respect for the wild.

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Speaker 2: While yeah, yeah you, Know so how was that?

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Speaker 4: Though like BECAUSE i can remember WHEN i WHEN I

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Speaker 4: figured out what that was, LIKE i just remember being

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Speaker 2: Do, like how was that for?

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Speaker 4: You coming from the you know What i'm saying loading

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Speaker 3: Game, man that was beautiful. Moment, man just looking back

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Speaker 3: and how it can be inspirational for the younger kids

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Speaker 3: Behold Like Tony allen grew up in my. Neighborhood yeah,

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Speaker 3: yeah AND i didn't you, know, yeah he probably make

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Speaker 3: the McDonald's All American, game but he made it in life.

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Speaker 2: Up then grew up.

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Speaker 4: Everywhere Bro like he had to be like he at one,

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Speaker 4: he went to high school At Julian. First he went

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Speaker 4: To julian with my cousin. First people don't know, that,

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Speaker 4: like you, Know julie had some good. Teams lance went,

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Speaker 4: there but like he was like a year or two under.

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Speaker 4: up transferring to going over there to crane and stuff,

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Speaker 4: with uh with buying them and.

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Speaker 2: THEM i was, LIKE i didn't know that me. Neither. Wow,

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Speaker 2: yeah that T a.

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Speaker 3: Man well everywhere he's, gone he's definitely made a name for,

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Speaker 3: himself that's a, fact.

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Speaker 1: Straight, Yeah i'm proud to see where he. Yet now

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Speaker 1: he's the ambassador for The Men. Grizzlies, man he's looking

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Speaker 3: There he one of, us, man you, know and we

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Speaker 3: uh the love that he's. Shown you, Know i've always

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Speaker 3: but it's particularly the. Youngins and T a was being

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Speaker 3: know man as, man he you, know world, champion you,

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Speaker 3: know got a ring with The Boston. Celtics AND i

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Speaker 3: AND i was chairing for, him you, KNOW i.

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Speaker 1: Ring, yeah could have been anybody. Else In, michigan would

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Speaker 3: Else be totally honest with, you, MAN i don't know

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Speaker 3: if it has ever been A fab five IF i

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Speaker 3: was going To illinois because my, heart my dream school

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Speaker 3: was The university Of, illinois and all the schools that recruited,

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Speaker 3: Me illinois was always that school Because i've seen so

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Speaker 3: many from our neighborhoods from our state that Goes University,

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Speaker 3: illinois and the mount of respect THAT i have for

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Speaker 3: the program And Coach henson and the main guy, though

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Speaker 3: the main, recruiter the main assistant, coach the Late Jimmy

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Speaker 3: College Jimmy, collins that, dude if they didn't get into

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Speaker 3: that situation With iowa where, allegedly AND i say this allegedly,

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Speaker 3: know how it ended up at the, end but there

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Speaker 3: was supposedly a secret tape where there was a tape

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Speaker 3: Where Dion, thomas who at the time was being recruited

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Speaker 3: By illinois And, iowa and they got into this LITTLE

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Speaker 3: nc double a situation where they were saying That iowa

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Speaker 3: had taped the conversation That Dion thomas had and about

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Speaker 3: his recruitment and about how Allegedly Jimmy collins and his

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Speaker 3: University illinois paid, him and you know that, right there

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Speaker 3: was a big stain on the. Program but it also

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Speaker 3: swayed my decision BECAUSE i was ready to commit early,

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Speaker 3: period which Is. November n c DOUBLE a had not

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Speaker 3: given back you, know the uh the.

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Speaker 2: Penalty or, whatever the.

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Speaker 3: SANCTIONS i would, say you're the, sanctions and they were

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Speaker 3: playing on doing it After, november AND i wanted to

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Speaker 3: get my decision. Over so that was hovering over big

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Speaker 3: cloud over, them AND i decided.

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Speaker 2: To go To.

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Speaker 3: Michigan and and that's how the recruitment started with you,

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Speaker 3: know me recruiting all the others and the Others i'm

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Speaker 3: speaking of is, uh you, Know chris And Jimmy, king

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Speaker 3: AND i didn't Know ray AND u In, jalen you,

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Speaker 3: know But ray was he was that glue.

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Speaker 2: Dude, yeah.

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Speaker 4: How did you being From? Chicago how did you play

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Speaker 4: a you see where on The michigan? Team and then

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Speaker 4: y'all had a cheating ass. Team y'all had everybody from

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Speaker 4: what he's, saying like everybody like come, on, man you

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Speaker 4: like how they come pluck you out of?

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Speaker 2: There they?

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Speaker 4: Did you, like remember see what they did that were

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Speaker 4: Met spaghetti when we was coming Through they came from

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Speaker 4: too mcgey over. There i'm, like, man how did you

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Speaker 4: end up on A michigan?

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Speaker 2: Team like if.

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Speaker 4: Somebody In chicago wasn't doing their? Job like where was

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Speaker 4: our au?

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Speaker 2: Presence and who wasn't mad or something like, no you're

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Speaker 2: not taking? Him like what that's the key word to

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Speaker 3: Presence we didn't have A chicago, Team we didn't have

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Speaker 3: a National chicago team to go over To, Jacksonville florida

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Speaker 3: to play in THE Au. Nationals Jay, rose they asked

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Speaker 3: me to come and play with, them AND i was, like,

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Speaker 3: wow we don't have a team in. Shop well if it's,

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Speaker 3: Possible well they made it. Work AND i don't know

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Speaker 3: exactly how.

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Speaker 2: Right they're gonna make it. Work but we went in

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Speaker 2: there and we wrecked that. League though we wrecked, it we.

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Speaker 3: Red we won nationals and we also Had O'shawn leonard

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Speaker 3: on the.

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Speaker 2: Team he said, that, yeah like come, on man was?

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Speaker 1: Cheating that was our dream? Team so how did the recruitment?

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Speaker 1: Go like how was it hard to Get web And?

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Speaker 1: Jalen did they have other schools that they? Was was

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Speaker 1: it hard to get them to believe in what you

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Speaker 1: was trying to accomplish in your head of y'all playing, together.

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Speaker 3: It was hard to get Web. Man web was was

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Speaker 3: the guy WHO i probably recruited the most out of

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Speaker 3: all the.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 3: MAN i was Calling web LIKE i was an assistant

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Speaker 3: coach on the, staff and you, know at the, time

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Speaker 3: we were in the runnings with the, Duke Michigan state And.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota but you, know there were a lot of reports

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Speaker 3: saying that he was going to go To. State you,

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Speaker 3: KNOW i thought he's gonna probably lean the, Duke SO

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Speaker 3: i tried to talk him out of, it like, bruh you,

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Speaker 3: Know i'm trying to you, Know and that's rare when

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Speaker 3: you have two guys that played similar. Position, yeah you Know,

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Speaker 3: jalen BUT i Think, chris you, know he was like

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Speaker 3: the deciding factor for J rose Because Jay rose was

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Speaker 3: he was heavily leaning Towards syracuse or you ON.

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Speaker 1: LV i was then like that, practice the officiers start

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Speaker 1: off the practice putting y'all five on the, team and

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Speaker 1: y'all play against the rest of them. All he mixed

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Speaker 1: y'all up and put you And web, started or you

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Speaker 1: And jaylen.

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Speaker 2: STARTING i mean you know What i'm.

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Speaker 1: Saying make sure look where y'all get on The when

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Speaker 1: did y'all practice all the?

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Speaker 3: Game, okay So i'll give you the start with the

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Speaker 3: second part of the. Question the first time we all

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Speaker 3: probably practiced together was leading up to. That Uh, no

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Speaker 3: it was after The North dayan, game because we did

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Speaker 3: not know That ray was going to start in The

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Speaker 3: North dayan game until the day of the. Game so

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Speaker 3: then after that that, game that's when we all fivers

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Speaker 3: first started practicing. Together now and pick, up we all you,

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Speaker 3: know will play together on the same you know, team you,

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Speaker 3: Know and this was before the season, started like In.

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Speaker 3: September we'll you, know pick it all five of us

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Speaker 3: versus the upper. Classmen and they didn't want that.

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Speaker 2: Smoke the fire fresh was coming in.

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Speaker 1: Summertime, allay the coaches out here we getting busted.

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Speaker 2: Up, man, hey we wanted it every.

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Speaker 3: Day but you, know the first practice that we had

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Speaker 3: three of us on the same, team it was In.

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Speaker 3: November it was Me web And, jalen and you KNOW

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Speaker 3: i had to beat out you, Know Eric riley for

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434
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 3: a starter coming in you, know AND i it's okay with.

435
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 3: Me you, know like what we, do we just gotta you,

436
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 3: know Minol. Mono you, Know i'm gonna go to practice

437
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 3: And i'm gonna make Sure i'll work Whoever i'm playing. Against,

438
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: RIGHT i gotta, scratch, push whatever it. Is every Day

439
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 3: i'm bringing so you ain't gonna outwork, me whoever you.

440
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 3: Are and that's who my mentality was every day in,

441
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: practice and at times that would be me And web

442
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: going against each, other or every times would be me

443
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: And Eric riley going against one. ANOTHER i didn't. Care

444
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 3: that's WHAT i was. About and so at the end

445
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 3: of the, day all three of us made each other.

446
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 3: Better and the Three i'm speaking of is, Myself web

447
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: And Riley Eric. Riley Eric riley was a respectful you,

448
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 3: know some would say upper. CLASSMEN i call him a,

449
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 3: vet you know how he took us all in and

450
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 3: was more like our. Brother but there were some guys

451
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: that was kind of, like you know about, right all

452
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 3: five of, Us i'm gonna keep it one.

453
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: Hundred there was some guys that, was, yeah it's only.

454
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: Right you know a lot of people got a lot

455
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: of invested in, this and they have plans for the

456
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: future and playing change when you got three freshmen coming,

457
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: in you know What i'm, saying and ball us like?

458
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 2: That who get credit for the? Swag because the long,

459
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 2: shorts the ball, heads the.

460
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: Black, socks you know What i'm, saying the black, nikes

461
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: who get credit for the swag that y'all, had because you,

462
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: know after, y'all it was only RIGHT i. Had every

463
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: TIME i had to put it By, JERSEY i had

464
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: to have black socks and baggy, shorts and you know

465
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: What i'm.

466
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 2: Saying so who's credit for?

467
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: That, well the, SHORTS i would have to give a,

468
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 3: credit you know To, Jalen jalen with the long shorts

469
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: because you know we had some short shorts in, practice

470
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 3: And james to always pull his down pretty. Much he was,

471
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 3: showing you, know his behind fishing like, that so he

472
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: know he went in there big and for along with.

473
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 3: Shorts at times he'll wear like you, know one of

474
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: our senior shorts his name Was Chip armor because his

475
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: shorts was really. Big SO i Give jaalen the nod

476
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: on the. Short when it comes to the black. Socks

477
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 3: you Know Ray jackson all the Way Ray jackson when

478
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: we Were southomoores and we were about to play our

479
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 3: first game In texas Versus, rice and it was a

480
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: non conference game And Ray jackson and were chilling in the.

481
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 3: Hotel he went out to the mall and with some

482
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 3: of his guys was From texas and they stopped in

483
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: foot locked and bought Some nike. Socks so he came

484
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: back to the hotel, Like, yo check these socks. Out

485
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 3: i'm Waring east.

486
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: Tomorrow in the.

487
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 3: Game, oh that sounded kind of. Sweet black shoes. Black i'm, like, yo,

488
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 3: man he's a couple of, dollars, man go grab me a.

489
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: PAIR i Think jimmy or somebody's running out to the.

490
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: Mall go back with him because he's gonna take him

491
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: to the. Store he's going to get. SOMETHING i was, like,

492
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: no y'all gotta get me. Something so we ended up

493
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 3: getting all five a pair of black. Socks But ray

494
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: was that dude for the black. Socks. Ballhead that's probably

495
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 3: probably jailing jailing And chris they got credit for the ball.

496
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: Head if you, NOTICE i never went.

497
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: With the ball.

498
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: HEAD i was all told the, team you know.

499
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: That you can't do. That Lorry. Lad they gotta Be Chris,

500
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: man My, LAD i gotta Be, CHRIS i can't do.

501
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: That y'all messing me up. NOW i gotta have THE

502
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: i gotta keep.

503
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: My mind, up you. Know and then on top of,

504
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 2: that on light, skin my guy might be green. Colored,

505
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 2: man say on my, ball, like, NO i ain't ray

506
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: for this right.

507
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: Now that one right, there y'all not going to get

508
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: me on that. One that was one TIME i went.

509
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: OUT i went against my.

510
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: Word.

511
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: Man my word was always been. Bonded SO i was, Like,

512
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 3: yo you know, What i'm gonna get a ball head

513
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 3: if we the final four our freshman, year we go

514
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: to final for me the ball head AND i want

515
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: to guess my. WORD i didn't do, it, Man i'm, like,

516
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: yo this we on a big. Stage, Man i'm really

517
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 3: gonna be made fun. Of PLUS i got big ears.

518
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: Too oh. Man that was the. Swag that's that's how

519
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: the swag went.

520
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: Down how was the, feeling the, vibe the momental that

521
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: locker room where you see them he wrote in them

522
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: names on the truck board and it's like it's. Connected

523
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: it's like boat trying, connected like we're all together.

524
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: Now so how was? That how was the, vibe the,

525
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: energy the layup?

526
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 5: Line you, Know i'm like the first time you go

527
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 5: out y'all to make y'all about to be the FIRST

528
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 5: i was, like, yeah that had to be, Crazy like

529
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 5: y'all looking around at each other, like, damn this is

530
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 5: really about to.

531
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 2: Happen.

532
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 3: Right the energy was, amazing, bro it WAS i, mean

533
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 3: you talk about you know how excited we was just

534
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 3: to be able to embrace one another on that level

535
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 3: because we talked about it for many times in the dorm.

536
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: Room we've had these, talks you, know eating you, know,

537
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 3: pizza you, know on, campus and then for coach to,

538
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 3: now you, know trust, it believe, it take a chance on,

539
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: it and to see, like, okay you know this is

540
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: about to be, real. Right and, yeah there was a

541
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: little doubt, too because you, know you got five under

542
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: classmen's straight out of high, school and how we're going

543
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: to be. Taken you, know if coach going to allow

544
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: this experiment to go one game or two, games if

545
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: we lose three out of, five you, know is it

546
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: gonna change the starting?

547
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: Lineup?

548
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: Man we were so pumped in, practice you, know it

549
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: was just like the, fluidy the, chemistry everything just flowed

550
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: and you would think that we played with each other for,

551
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: years But the reason why it worked was because une,

552
00:26:54,240 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: selfishness une selfishness of guys buying into their roles and

553
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: wanted to make it. Work SO i was okay with you,

554
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 3: know IF i, want you want me to guard the

555
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 3: best big on the opposite, team or the best, forward,

556
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: whatever it doesn't, matter, whatever let's do. It IF i

557
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: got to pass up a layup AND i see where,

558
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: point you, know give me the eye contact to throw a,

559
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: Lob i'm throwing the lob because you, know, YEAH i

560
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: like the excited you. Play but he may have an

561
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: easier shot because he's so damn, athletic you, know right.

562
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: Right the REASON i Hate duke is because of The fab.

563
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: FIVE i don't Like duke because of The fab. Five

564
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: when y'all played the number one team In duke as

565
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: the five, freshman how was that?

566
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: Game man In MISCHIF i. WAS i remember that like

567
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 2: like it was.

568
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: YESTERDAY i was heart broke going to sleep after.

569
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 3: That we were so pumped you talking, about you, know, sleep,

570
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: MAN i don't think any of us got in any

571
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: sleep the night before the game because we were so

572
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: excited to hear that the number one team in the

573
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: nation it's coming to An. Arbority and you know we've

574
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 3: heard the conversations Of Christen laighton there being the best

575
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: player in the, Country Bobby hurley being the best point,

576
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: guard and coach k you, know the best college coach

577
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: in the, business And Grant. Hill you know what he

578
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: did versus who was? It Unlv, yeah, yeah you know

579
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 3: that team was very, skillful iconic team because they always

580
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: go down and, beating you, know beating a. Championship so

581
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: we were pumped for. It And i'll never forget where

582
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: when we was driving up to the game and our

583
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: fans were lined, UP i mean they had been sleeping

584
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: out for, days camping out like how the dookies would.

585
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: Do they were looking forward to the. Moment and we

586
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: got on that. Floor, man that was a lot of

587
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 3: trash talking going. On you, know that was a lot

588
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: of mean mugging that we probably was mean mugging them

589
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: more they was mean mugging. Us but we wanted. It

590
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: we wanted that, Competition we wanted all of, it and

591
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: we wanted to let them know that we wanted. It

592
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: and then excitement in the. Building and then when we

593
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,239
Speaker 3: we didn't finish, It, man we were going back and

594
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: forth and with the overtime and we have to, overtime

595
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: and you, know they pulled it. Out and you, KNOW

596
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: i look back on that, game, like, man that's the

597
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: one right. There but it definitely put us on a.

598
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: Map and everyone in the you, know in the, public you,

599
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: know all the national, newsletters all the. Newspapers that was

600
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: newspapers back, then right, right that's what you, know they

601
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: all you, know marked that as, like you know, what

602
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 3: this is the uppercoming. Team these hi freshmen are for.

603
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: Real how was it for you coming from you, KNOW

604
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 4: Cvs south side Of chicago going to Big, Michigan like

605
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: when you get to Anne arboro and it's this huge,

606
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: campus was? It how was it for y'all being you,

607
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: know bost of y'all was inner city kids going to this,

608
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: huge predominantly white.

609
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: Campus like as far as a culture shock for.

610
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: Y'all, yeah it was a culture shock for. ME i

611
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: could speak for me because you, Know i'm from you,

612
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: know like where you guys are, from, uh inner, city you,

613
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: know being from The South. Side my elementary, school which

614
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: we call grammar, school you know that that was all,

615
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: Black thank, You my high, SCHOOL, cbs it was all.

616
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: Black my.

617
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: NEIGHBORHOOD i grew up both of them was all. Black

618
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 3: so NOW i go to you, know The university Of

619
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: michigan and this prestigious, university like you, mentioned a highly academic.

620
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: School how WOULD, i you, know navigate through this environment

621
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: without having like my grandmother or you, know someone that

622
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: helped me through the, process or my high school coach

623
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: who was looked at as my father, figure Coach Richard,

624
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: cook you Know Donnie kirksey who's also looked at as

625
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: as an uncle slash father. Figure they weren't gonna be,

626
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: around so it's gonna be me. Now and what help.

627
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: WAS i was fortunate enough to have a coaching staff

628
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: like you, Know Brian, Dutcher jason If Perry, watson and

629
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: Then Scott perry came on a little bit later When

630
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: Perry watson took the head job OF u. A. D

631
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: but those guys really helped me get through the college

632
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: level and help me with my college experience on teaching

633
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: me on what it would, take you, know to be

634
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: able to excel in the. Classroom because the first TIME

635
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: i saw one of our lecture, halls it was like

636
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty streets in, there And i'm like,

637
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: crazy you, Know i'm, like that's. Crazy, now How i'm

638
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: going to interact with the professor like the crowd in the.

639
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: Crowd damn, yo know if you turned your homework and.

640
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: NIGHTS i tell you my first communication, PROJECT i bombed

641
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: that BECAUSE i didn't even, understand, like you, know what

642
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: the lesson, was and AND i had to do the

643
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: presentation AND i THOUGHT i was, prepared but you, know

644
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: at the end of the, RESULTS i was. Not so

645
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: that was the first time that was WHERE i was,

646
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: like you know, WHAT i got to lock in AND

647
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: i met with our academic, advisor came up with a game,

648
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: plan taught me about time, management you, know a little.

649
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: Stuff after the, PRACTICE i can't get indulge, in you.

650
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: KNOW i got to lock in, now you, know hanging

651
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: out with you, know a couple of chicks on the, weekend,

652
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: whatever that's not gonna. Fly you, KNOW i gotta know

653
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: IF i want to be out there on the floor

654
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: and be, eligible IF i want to excel and be

655
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: able to get my, degree you, KNOW i got to

656
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: put some of these other things. Aside and there's a

657
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: time and place for. That BUT i got locked in

658
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: on my academics AND i started to. Focus man AND

659
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: i didn't want to. Fail AND i was not going

660
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: to fail BECAUSE i didn't want to look. Back AND

661
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: i go back home in the summertime and the kids

662
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: and the people that depending on me and support. Me you,

663
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: KNOW i can't look bad in front of. Them AND

664
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: i got to do it for the, shortage you, know

665
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: and be an example for the youngest that's coming behind.

666
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: Me it was a culture, shot. Fellas it was a timid.

667
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: Day like at what point did he get to the

668
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 4: point where y'all looking at each other, like, yo like

669
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 4: we out, here like we really a problem and like

670
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: we're really, good like we really could could win? Something

671
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: at what point did it started to turn like that

672
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: for y'all months To fab.

673
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: FIVE i, know man for, me and you, KNOW i

674
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: THINK i can speak for all of us WHEN i

675
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: say This Nordo dame. Game you, KNOW i go back

676
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: to that game when we were on the road and

677
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: all five of us started for the first time and

678
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 3: were playing In Notre dame on NATIONAL, tv and at

679
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: that time it was Nord Dame games was shown ON, nbc,

680
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: right and so we won that game and we all

681
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: scored all the, points like we didn't get no bench,

682
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: production AND i was, like, wow you know, WHAT i

683
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: think we got something.

684
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: Here.

685
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: Bro we you, know we're gonna be all. Right and

686
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: we went back to The big ten season because that

687
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: was in the mid midpoint of the season when we

688
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: Played Nordre. Dame, yeah but we took off from, There,

689
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: bro we took off And jalen was our Magic. Johnson

690
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: he was our point.

691
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: Guard, Yeah jalen used to talk so much, Ship like

692
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: see like every Game jay talking so much? Ship like

693
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: how was that just some of the stuff That jaylor

694
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: used to just be out there, Doing like it's like

695
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: he used to start something even if y'all came in

696
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: and y'all y'all was, like, man we're just gonna play the, Game,

697
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: jayleen get it Hip now y'all into? It like how

698
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: how was them game where y'all just out there playing

699
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: and Then jayla just throw some ship and that's.

700
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: All Jay rose is the Different Jay rose.

701
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 6: Today teammates would HAVE i, swear, listen you ain't gonna

702
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 6: tell me you can't grow and growing, mature like Like Brody.

703
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: Rose one of the sickest teammates. Ever know what you're talking?

704
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: About?

705
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: This i'm, like, yo, man this, dude, man they talk about,

706
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: Changing i'm, like, yo people can, change like my, Man

707
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: like you, said he talked trash to every, one And

708
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: i'm speaking up every player on the floor he's also talking,

709
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: trash you, know like if a, coach don't let a

710
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: coach say, something or assistant coach or it's over all.

711
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: Right and then a, referee like one time we were

712
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: playing At Norda dane And jayalen was talking to one

713
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: of the players and then the fans was going at it,

714
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: too you, know so that just really getting them. Going

715
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: and the referee we're sitting on the free throw line

716
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: and he's smiling because you, know his smile is like talking, trash,

717
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: right that's the. Thing so so like he's, smiling and

718
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: ref was, like, Yo jalen stopped, smiling and first of,

719
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: all how you gonna tell anyone to stop, Smiling. Jayleen

720
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: don't tell him to stop doing something because you. Don't

721
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: so he's still. Smiling the ref give him a tech and,

722
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: Like i'm not making this up and it's a true.

723
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: Story so that right there was like, that let me

724
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: know that some of these folks are get so they

725
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 3: don't want to see to succeed they don't want to

726
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: see us do. Well but Then Jay rose like he

727
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: didn't help the cause because every time we're playing against,

728
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: anyone like he's going at you and he's gonna let

729
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: you hear. It, Okay Bobby, Hurley oh, man he's he's

730
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 3: really letting him have oh, Yeah Jim, jackson like he

731
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: was that dude In Polish, man straight, up that Dude

732
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: jay he AIN'T i ain't letting him have some of it,

733
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: Too that's.

734
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: The thing about.

735
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 4: It then they made him a unique and great trash

736
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: talker because he combined like he was, witty he was,

737
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: smart witty and, funny but like he definitely had that

738
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 4: i'm an asshole in me and then he was.

739
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: Hood he was. HOOD i ain't like my. HOOD i

740
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: ain't scared of, you like what's?

741
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: Up so it's like when you get hollered, At LIKE

742
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 4: i perfect story About Jay. Rose bro we played with The, knicks,

743
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 4: right we played with The, knicks so this is a perfect.

744
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: Story Jay rose would be coming in and like this

745
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 4: when they Put zeke put the. Suit we had the

746
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: whole suit, rule, right you got well full flat suit

747
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 4: head to toe whenever we. Come so J row was

748
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 4: like man they just like you know how he, is

749
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: like he like the, Establishment like how they just gonna

750
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 4: tell us how we got addressing. This one day we

751
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: get to the, plane no life on this man came

752
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 4: in with a full suit.

753
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: On, right but the joint was blue jen it was.

754
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 4: Denim he was like like this is this Is Jay

755
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: rose beating the, System like you know What.

756
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm, saying like come, in like trying to tell us all.

757
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: That i'm, LIKE i, say, yo my hand got on

758
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 2: the jeans.

759
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 4: And like he was playing though he like he comfortable

760
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 4: because you, know you know us we don't want no

761
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 4: damn suit on the plane all.

762
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: That BUT i was, like, Yo Jay rose is really.

763
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: Sick you'll stick.

764
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 4: Dude at one, Point Coach brown told all the older

765
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 4: dudes like he was Like Jerome, Jans kevin came Mow

766
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: taylor stuff ba B, yeah y'all don't gotta you.

767
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: Know it was like to an N. S he's, like

768
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: y'all just you don't say you ain't really gotta come.

769
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: IN i just want to. Work he wants to work

770
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 4: with the young guys that developed. Them we be down

771
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 4: on one end of the. Court you want, pricing you

772
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 4: hat the door swing, go It's. Jaylen you're coming in

773
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 4: every day on. There you're not about to tell me

774
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: THAT i ain't show up to. Work Jay row would

775
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: show up every, day be dremmling the, bat being like

776
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 4: got get a?

777
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 7: Rebounding oh, no like you know this is LIKE i

778
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 7: didn't Look Jay rose was sick and the key word

779
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 7: you said was. Witty, man he's so.

780
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: Smart you.

781
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 4: Know that's Why i'm showing up every. Day you're not

782
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: about to say that he wasn't showing up.

783
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, hey that, dude and that's.

784
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 3: Hey he don't definitely let you know that he's gonna

785
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: be hurt and he ain't biting his.

786
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: Tongue nobody y'all love J. RUBS i love. THEM i

787
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: love them.

788
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: Too it's, like you, know twenty five years later or,

789
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: so and even though y'all didn't win a national, championship

790
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: how does it feel to see the impact of you,

791
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: know like players like me that came up behind y'all

792
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: and all these players like how y'all moved the, culture

793
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: and how y'all moved you know What i'm, saying so

794
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: many different, hoods so many different, players to see them

795
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 1: speak up on what y'all did and the impact y'all, Had,

796
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: like how does that feel to see it? Now and you,

797
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: KNOW i know a lot of people were, saying and

798
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: y'all did the, documentary you know What i'm, Saying AND

799
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: i know you're getting more of the appreciation that you

800
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: probably didn't feel it back. Then you, know how is

801
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: that now to receive that appreciation of like how y'all

802
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: really motivated and put stars through the league that followed

803
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: y'all from THE kgs to.

804
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: Everybody you know.

805
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: What that, man that's that's you know, What it's an

806
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 3: emotional moment when you say that, now like how we've

807
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 3: been appreciated and accepted by many many folks who now

808
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: have an opportunity that you walk across and you, meet

809
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: whether it's on a you, know sports level or you,

810
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: know you, know on a corporate, level or you walking

811
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: through the, airport you always be remembered, As, hey that's

812
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: you Know juwan from The fab. Five you, know you

813
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: remember his iconic, Team like you, know a dad or

814
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 3: mom telling their child the story and the kid looking

815
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: around like who is now now with the, documentary you,

816
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: know which was a few years. Ago, now a lot

817
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: of the kids are, like oh, YEAH i remember on

818
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 3: thirty for. Thirty you, know they hear the story and

819
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: it's been inspiring to. Them at the, time, man, media

820
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: they wasn't friendly at. All they were not accepting of,

821
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: us and a lot of our people here in the

822
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: state Of michigan was writing bad letters and you, know

823
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: very racist letters to our head coach and staff because

824
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: they didn't accept it of seeing five black young men

825
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: on the court being able to be expressive and having

826
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: fun while doing it and not, caring you, know or

827
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: having to care about what somebody think or. Say and

828
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: this is the way that we feel that. Works and

829
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: we're gonna also let you know that we're gonna kick

830
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: your ass out there on the floor.

831
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: Too straight. Up that right there was.

832
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: Beautiful. MAN i look back on, it like here you,

833
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: Go like you talk about, name, image. Likeness, now all

834
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: five of, us including our other, teammates would have been

835
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: able to capitalize off the brand. Hugely, Yes and then

836
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: you speak on you like the, media the social, media social. Media,

837
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: yeah like fab, five we've been able to express like

838
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: a lot of things that's happening with the, country with

839
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: social injustice and things of that. Nature you, know police,

840
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: reform you, know we'll be able to express ourselves and

841
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: using our. Platform BUT i look back on. It you,

842
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: know what we've, done it's been inspirational to, many and

843
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: not just you, know young blacks that are coming out

844
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 3: of the inner, city but many others across the world

845
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i you, know there are a lot of people

846
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: from different races have always been complementary of what we've.

847
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 3: Done on the collegiate. Level and not being able to,

848
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: win that's the part too that gets. Me and we

849
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: lost two years in a, row And I'M i hate.

850
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: Losing this is one of the biggest reasons WHY i

851
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: came back to the college game. TOO i only coach

852
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: my alma matera and to be here to impact young,

853
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: men to help them grow to become a man WHEN

854
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: i hand them back to their. Parents but, Yeah i'm competitive,

855
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: too you, KNOW i want to win that title man

856
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: THAT i tried to do AS i was a student

857
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: athlete he at The university Of.

858
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: Mischigan, yeah, YEAH i put you out in the.

859
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: Category IS ai MEN q say this all the time

860
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: THAT ai like sacrificed itself for us to beat ourselves

861
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: in THE. NBA i feel like y'all sacrificed y'all went

862
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: through all that from the bad all oh they wearing

863
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: long shorts of they wearing black, socks y'all Sacrifice IF

864
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: i sacrifice that for guys to go to college and be,

865
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: themselves you know What i'm saying after, That SO i

866
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: definitely put you out in the category of.

867
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 3: That thank.

868
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: You.

869
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 4: Brother how was it when you got to walk across

870
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: that stage and Shake David stern hand and you're, like

871
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 4: this is the you, know this is the one moment

872
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 4: like you, say we didn't all watch like growing up

873
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 4: the draft and when you get your hat and all, That,

874
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 4: like how how was that moment for?

875
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: You? Mama we made it out the, hood were. Here

876
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: now we're, here, brother we, Here.

877
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 3: Like that was a, highlight moment of opportunity of now

878
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: our life has. Changed you, know all those years of

879
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: eating them hot sauce, sandwiches that that, government that, cheese

880
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: gomment cheese government, butter AND i didn't mess with the

881
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: yards the powdered. Milk now you, KNOW i didn't like

882
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: the powdered, milk but the government cheese where you don't

883
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: cut off on you know you're trying to cut. It

884
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: it just doesn't float the right, way and then you

885
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: gotta cut another. Piece, yeah, bro NOW i finally made.

886
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: It we can now have some.

887
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: BELVEDO i always wanted to ask, you you, know if

888
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: you played With weber And misigan and now you get

889
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: to play With webber with the, Bullets like how was?

890
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: That did that? Happened BECAUSE i remember when it. HAPPENED

891
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: i couldn't believe. It we could believe we played.

892
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: Together and then like seeing y'all play, together it's like,

893
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: man like we're, like, man we got water in.

894
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: The, League like how was?

895
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: That?

896
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: Wow? MAN i tell you that was that was the

897
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: best moment ever for, me like my first, cause like

898
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: my rookie, YEAR i was still the holdout AND i

899
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 3: had missed summer, LEAGUE i missed our training, camp and

900
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 3: THEN i missed our seven regular season, games still trying

901
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: to go shape my, contract my rookie, deal AND i

902
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: was a whole. Out and so then my first DAY

903
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: i signed my contract was the day that they had

904
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: Traded Tom googliata and traded him To Golden State warriors

905
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: For Chris. Weber i'm, like, yo now were about to

906
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 3: play the first Day i'm signing and we're both joining

907
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: The Washington. Wizards i'm sorry that time's. Bullets bullets. Bullets

908
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: we're gonna play our first game, together the first regular.

909
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 3: Season for, Myself i'm, like, yo, man this is you

910
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: can't script it even better because the relationship where we

911
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: have on the court and off the, court it speaks.

912
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: Volumes it's like that's my. Family so you, know that

913
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: was a. Blessing, man AND i look back on. THAT

914
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: i hate. It bro when he got traded from The

915
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: wizards Man Sacramento Kings, Man i'm, like, whoa, really that's

916
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: what we're doing, Now like here we are young guns.

917
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: Man next year The racer and you, know we go

918
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: through the playoffs together and we're still young. Team we

919
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: got you, Know Rod, strickland one of the best premiere

920
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: point guards in THE, nba and you Know George marason

921
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: then and one time we Had Rashid, WALLACE.

922
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: I remember that.

923
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: And ben Bro we Had ben and they Traded ben

924
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: For Ike. Austin ben was, rookie. MAN i tell you

925
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: he came in the. Games he'll play limited. Minutes he

926
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: would have like about seven rebounds and two blocks only

927
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: like eight minutes of. Play Like i'm not exaggerating like

928
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: being like when we traded, him no offense To, ike

929
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: BUT i was, like, man, BRO i hate that we're

930
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: gonna we missing out on a young dude that has

931
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: a promising way of how he fected the game and

932
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: fects the game and winning and he's so. Impactful but

933
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: we see what happened after.

934
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: That, yeah oh that tay y'all had caading Cool. Cow

935
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: how was to pay the cab and? Chat AND i

936
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: used to love watching hollow weekends play Against indiana and

937
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: now cab chanty is on.

938
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: Y'ALL i used to give us to business to give you.

939
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: WORK i hated Cabin chat used to always have a

940
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: good game.

941
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 3: Of. Us, Man i'm telling you the business. Man we

942
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: could not be cool Cal indiana. Man coyle was like,

943
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: that and now we have we're playing with. Him and

944
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: that's one thing that if anyone in the locker room

945
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: that we're in THE nba locker room that we are

946
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: now teammates of that we could not talk trash To

947
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 3: cale Because coyle would win every trash talk.

948
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: Right straight, UP i don't say.

949
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: That people asked me about my rookie, year and there

950
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: was how it was your rookie, year AND i was, like,

951
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: man it was so easy BECAUSE i had Q, Key,

952
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: corey had my guys with. Me Did weather make your

953
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: rookie year like a breeze bread the, fresher having your

954
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: guy with you and just going through your rookie year

955
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: being your first year in THE.

956
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: Ns you, did.

957
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: Bro my transition as a rookie was easy With web

958
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: being there Because webb had just experienced in The Golden

959
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: state and you, know we all know what he did

960
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 3: his rookie year on the, Floor rookie of The, year

961
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 3: and then you, know to help me navigate through THE

962
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: nba on how to develop a pregame. Routine what it's

963
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: like being on the, road eating on the road with,

964
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: him you, know having a friend a brother THAT i

965
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: can rely on and talk. To someone of course that

966
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 3: can pat me on the, back you know when things

967
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: get a little, rough being a sounding. BOARD i was very, fortunate,

968
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 3: Man AND i look back on. That, MAN i don't

969
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: know IF i didn't Have, web HOW i would.

970
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: Have made my.

971
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: Transition it's been a little bit.

972
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 4: Tougher tell me this, though like you went from holding,

973
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 4: out you know What i'm, saying rookie, year then you

974
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: get you get, signed then you make all rookie. Team

975
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: so then the next year you the first hundred million.

976
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: DOLLARS i mean how they do? That like like?

977
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: THAT i know the people listening, like, wait how you

978
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: go from a real? Sign how are you want people

979
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: that broke them?

980
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 4: Scale you made the scale coming to, exist as you

981
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 4: And Big doll y'all made the whole rookie scale coming to, existence.

982
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: Right, Well Big dog made the rookie scale come into

983
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 3: existence WHEN i got my, deal and THEN kg got his,

984
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: deal and then you Know Alonza morning.

985
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: Got His yeah it was you Then alonzo.

986
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: Right so then THE cba they wanted to change THE

987
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: cba up because they felt that a lot of teams

988
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 3: now weren't being able to sign a lot of these top,

989
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: players star players on different, teams these big deals that

990
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 3: you know with the small, markets with THE tv, deal

991
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: it just was not. Feasible so looking back on, it

992
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 3: we didn't we end up having a, LOCKOUT i believe

993
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 3: like a year, Later, yeah because of THE, cba because

994
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: they was trying to crack down on one hundred million

995
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: dollar deals exactly after my second. Year, man like FIRST

996
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: i had to prove myself my first two.

997
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: Years you made all start second.

998
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: Year, yes in my contract and my rookie, deal WHICH

999
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: i had signed late because of our owner and the

1000
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: salar cap that was available was just totally unfair as

1001
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 3: far as you know what they did as far as

1002
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: not slotting me in my. Slot so they gave me

1003
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 3: a two year out to prove. Myself SO i proved myself,

1004
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 3: right and the fair market value at that time wash you,

1005
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: know they could have saved a lot of money they

1006
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 3: would took care of me on the rookie. Deal and

1007
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: then after that, year that, summer you, know And David

1008
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: fok being my, AGENT i never forget, it came into

1009
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: my house and was, Like, man we're gonna we're gonna

1010
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: ask for one hundred. MILLION i, Said i'm, like what

1011
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: are you talking, About, like don't do me like, That like,

1012
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 3: No i'm. Cool like it's, like, no that's what the.

1013
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: Market we're Gonna we're gonna test the.

1014
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 4: MARKET i was, like, so how was that phone call

1015
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: when you got the word, like, yeah we're, gonna we got.

1016
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: You the HUNTING.

1017
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: I went twelve oh. ONE i had met in free.

1018
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 3: Agency first MEETING i had Was, MAN i think it

1019
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: was With Miami heat and then the New York knicks

1020
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 3: came into like two in the. Morning Detroit pistons came

1021
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: in met like about three in the, morning And i'm

1022
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 3: in my agent, office But alonzo there because he represented

1023
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: By David fark.

1024
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 2: Too you.

1025
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: Know the next, Day washington came into like eighty, four

1026
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 3: and you, know HERE i Have miami at one hundred point.

1027
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 3: TWO i remember that like it was. Yesterday AND i

1028
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: got a lines on, morning one of the best centers

1029
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: and Pat riley the head, Coach Tim, Hardaway Tim hardaway point,

1030
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 3: guard And i'm, like, wow you, know we're talking about

1031
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 3: GETTING Pj.

1032
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 2: BROWN Pj.

1033
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: Brown i'm, like, Yo we're gonna have a hell of a.

1034
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 3: Team AND i ain't Got Bashawn leonard there. Too i'm all,

1035
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: right So, washington my heart was With, washington But washington

1036
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: still was did not want, to you, know take it

1037
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 3: up to that market. Level, Well i'm, like, yo you,

1038
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: know let's be real about. It you, know you got

1039
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 3: one hundred and you got you, know people don't know,

1040
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 3: this But detroit And New york was offering one, twelve

1041
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: AND i Chose Miami heat And miami And Jeff, wexler you, Know,

1042
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: jeff you're a was there well he knows the whole entire,

1043
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: story you know how it all went. Down and, UH

1044
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: i was, like, Yo i'm going with this young center right.

1045
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: Here you, KNOW i hated Leaving. WEB i did not

1046
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 3: want to LEAVE. WEB i was in, tears, man BECAUSE i,

1047
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: wanted you, know to play With. WASHINGTON i was, like

1048
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 3: you know, what business is, business that's how they gonna treat. It,

1049
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: Well i'm going To, miami Right. MIAMI u.

1050
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: Man.

1051
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: Wow you know THE nba just allowed that. Contract they were, like,

1052
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 3: no we got to avoid this and. That that's When

1053
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: washington stepped, up, like, yo we got a chance to

1054
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: get him for the second. Time well let's go ahead

1055
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: and sign him for one oh. Five but the owner

1056
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: was not happy with that at. All. Whatsoever you, KNOW

1057
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: i really credit the late West huntale West. Hunt he

1058
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: was the one that really spoke on my.

1059
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: Behalf so so let me ask you a little hold

1060
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: d this is the perfect time for my you, know

1061
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: because this is that was the bag you got the

1062
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 4: one o.

1063
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: Five so you, KNOW i like to ask a.

1064
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 4: Question you, know we all from humble, beginnings you from

1065
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 4: you know What i'm, saying the?

1066
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: Projects you feel?

1067
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 4: Me what what did my og Aka Mike, lowry, dude

1068
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 4: when he got that one o? Five what what did you?

1069
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 4: DO i don't want to hear about buying no house

1070
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 4: for somebody and take. It i'm talking about what did

1071
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: you do for? Yourself where you was, like oh, No

1072
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 4: i'm about to freak, This i'm about to do this or.

1073
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: Whatever what did you? DO i?

1074
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: Know was it one of the rari's or one of

1075
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 4: the rare? Rorris DID i see you pulling up the?

1076
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 4: Well you, Know i'm telling you for y'all that don't.

1077
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 4: Know Juwan howard And Mike finley Was Mike. Lowry we

1078
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 4: used to call these boys. Bad neither one of them

1079
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 4: was market. Y'all both Was Mike. Lowry y'all was bad,

1080
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 4: boys but they both was like because y'all was fly,

1081
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 4: like like you, said we get the. Hoops it's nine,

1082
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 4: o'clock y'all already ice snuffer, in y'all newspaper finishing. Up we,

1083
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 4: like look at g now let's go see. Hulo, holdo, wait,

1084
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 4: wait we gotta go see What calle drove, today because

1085
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 4: you was coming in something crazy every.

1086
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: TIME i know who that, is so we hit the partial.

1087
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 2: LIT i know who that.

1088
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 4: Is so look, tell, look you got to know what

1089
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 4: did you do when you got that one hundred and?

1090
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 4: Fact and then it's the first of this, Kind like

1091
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 4: this is a rarity because this ain't never happened. Before

1092
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 4: when you, did you the first one to do. It

1093
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 4: you walk around like this you got like you, know

1094
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 4: it's a humble, brag like you ain't nobody get this,

1095
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 4: yet like right, right like and mind You Michael jordan

1096
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 4: was still in THE nba at this point and he

1097
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 4: hadn't did, it so that was like mind blowing to us.

1098
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 2: All.

1099
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: Man my first purchase was A Ferrari errari, BOYS i

1100
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 3: got them, horses, MAN i one got twelve of, them

1101
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 3: four fifty, seven not Twelve ferrari's but fifty SIX. Gt

1102
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: was A v twelve twelve horse power. Twelve you. KNOW

1103
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 3: i was, like, yo, BRO i gotta get that, man

1104
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: and that that was the first car THAT i learned

1105
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: how to drive a. STICK i had never known how

1106
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: to drive a, stick.

1107
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: You, know, MAN i, say, BRO i would have gotten that.

1108
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: Car told ME i can't Drive my mama told ME

1109
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: i can't drive a.

1110
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: Car SO i learned how to drive a. Stick so

1111
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: she maybe learn how to drive a. Stick first BEFORE

1112
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: i could.

1113
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 2: Drive, wow, wow we need she, said you can drive a,

1114
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: stick you could drive.

1115
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 3: Anything my family to have a. Car we were taking the.

1116
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 3: Bus Bro we was taking the bus in the al

1117
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 3: to go to grocery, stores to go, hoop go to baseball,

1118
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 3: game go to. School WELL i got that, car And

1119
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: Tim grover and his girlfriend at the, Time, catherine taught

1120
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: me how to drive a. Stick Because Tim grover had

1121
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 3: a MISSION b three THOUSAND. GT i used to go

1122
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 3: to the parking lot right off Of Lake Your. DRIVE i,

1123
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 3: remember like it was, yesterday Off Lake Shore. Drive we'll

1124
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 3: go to one of the empty parking lots and they'll

1125
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 3: teach me how to drive a. Stick BEFORE i got My.

1126
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 3: Ferrari that is. Hilarious, yeah how about trying to learn

1127
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 3: how to drive A ferrari and and it's a, Stick like,

1128
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: Yo i'm so HAPPY i didn't blow out the.

1129
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: Engine what's the secret into keeping the best lining in the,

1130
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: game the freshest hurt cutting the game every game of your.

1131
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: Career what's the secret into? That because like.

1132
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: It's like it's you, know all of us have our

1133
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: bad her days here and, there you know What i'm.

1134
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: Saying but every TIME i see you ON. Tv every

1135
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: TIME i seen, you it was like you just left

1136
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: the barber. Shop Don't, crispy don't listen to see. Web

1137
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: web used to tell, people, MAN i had a haircut

1138
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: every three. Days that's not. TRUE i get a haircut

1139
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: every week all right.

1140
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 3: Now now people don't know, this but people in the

1141
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 3: back at the crib knows THAT i was the barber

1142
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: in our. Neighborhood so that was my. Hustle SO i

1143
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: used to be the neighborhood. Barber you, know that's how

1144
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: used to make.

1145
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: Something you have.

1146
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 4: It so he touched hisself up exactly.

1147
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 1: Wrong so you in the hotel room keeping this truck

1148
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: right before the, game that was just.

1149
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: Ready he.

1150
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 4: Got he got haircuts, Daily he got the Real he

1151
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 4: just kept it tieing up the whole.

1152
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: Time they used to Be.

1153
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: Chris i'll come, out you, know like it was like

1154
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 3: three days, later like you, know some of the line

1155
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 3: and that started to go down a little. Bit so you,

1156
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: know get out. Shower you, KNOW i don't wash your,

1157
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: hair and you put your conditioner.

1158
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: In you. KNOW i never went with a wave.

1159
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 3: Cap you, KNOW i was just, brushing you know a

1160
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 3: few times and then it'll lay down and Then i'll

1161
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: just tap it, up you know with the, lining and

1162
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: THEN i do my goatee and that's how it always stay.

1163
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: Crisp how was it to play with, fan play With

1164
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: dirk Le, whiskey play with that mav. Squad they was

1165
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: fighting in The west for spots and fighting to go

1166
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: to the championship in the Dirty, west because you, know

1167
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: our heart at The west. WAS i remember we used

1168
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: to play our Side Bradley Adrian, griffin y'all used to

1169
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: have like man talk about y'all had a lot of

1170
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: star power on y'all. Squad but the Young dirknwinsky in

1171
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: you know how he's involved and you know.

1172
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: You got fed that you see every summer all the,

1173
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: Time like how was? That? Bro that was the.

1174
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: Best one of the best TEAMS i ever played on

1175
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: and with that team and like you touched on like

1176
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: we were young, Too like it wasn't like eight year.

1177
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: VETS i mean we were like six years in or

1178
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 3: five years. In H i Think dirk may have been

1179
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 3: in like four years in or something like. That and

1180
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: we Had Steve nash and you, KNOW i just thought

1181
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 3: that that was a team of the, Future John nelson

1182
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 3: And Mark after we had lost ours in the second

1183
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 3: round in the playoffs versus The San Antonio, spurs and

1184
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 3: then the next season we were like the number one

1185
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: team in The. West so it comes trade deadline everywhere

1186
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 3: and at that, time AND i remember before the trade,

1187
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 3: deadline my name was being mentioned as being traded For

1188
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: Karl malone going To utah And carl come in To.

1189
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 3: Dallas i'm, like, nah they can never let that, Happen,

1190
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: carl like you, know Mister, utah AND i never. Forget

1191
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: Like mark came to me one time WHEN i was

1192
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 3: in the training room getting. Taped he was, like, man

1193
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: don't listen to those. Rumors we're not trading. You AND

1194
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: i was, like, Yo i'm not even worried about it.

1195
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 3: Anyway so but at the same, time you, Know i'm locked.

1196
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 3: In i'm locked. IN i just want to win AND

1197
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: i want to win. Here then the trade deadline. Comes

1198
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 3: we have a game that day And i'm going through

1199
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: my pregame. ROUTINE i always take a, nap and so

1200
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 3: WHEN i woke up for my, NAP i got a

1201
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 3: phone call for my. Agent he, Said, Yo you've been

1202
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: traded to The Denver. NUGGETS i, said, Huh Denver nuggets

1203
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 3: there And i'm, like, Yo Denver nuggets Is he told

1204
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: ME i was traded. FOR i was traded For Nick fan,

1205
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: asked So, rayfler, Friends Avery, Johnson tarika do a Hog

1206
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 3: AND i Think Popeye jones was in that trade. Too

1207
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 3: and then it was, Me Tim hardaway And Danielle. Harvey

1208
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: we're going To Denby harvey that cute BRO i. Was

1209
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: that was one TIME i was really. SICK i was, like, yo,

1210
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 3: MAN i can't believe we're going from the from one

1211
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: team to The west to now To, denver which is

1212
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: the last place. Team AND i look back on. That.

1213
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 3: Man IF i would See Don nelson to this, day,

1214
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 3: Man i'm gonna let him.

1215
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: HERE i.

1216
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 1: Didn't we used to play out it like we see something.

1217
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: Hot we got a bunch of. Highlights BUT i just

1218
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: remember y'all used to kick our. Ass we used to

1219
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: try the best to beat, y'all but like y'all used

1220
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: to just get over the humps on some veteran stuff

1221
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: because we didn't know how to.

1222
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: Win. Well he was Like.

1223
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: Clipper we didn't know how to like in the. Games

1224
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 1: y'all used to just go to work deep.

1225
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: Y'all, hey, y'all want the only team that got.

1226
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: It. Man keep in MIND i said we were the

1227
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: number one in The. West, bro like this, man first and.

1228
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 4: LAST i had that feeling WHEN i was In phoenix

1229
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 4: and got shipped from number one of THE nba to the.

1230
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 4: Cellar WHEN i got sent to The, knicks we got

1231
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 4: the literally the worst record in the. LEAGUE i went

1232
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 4: from the best record literally to the worst record in the.

1233
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 4: League it hurts and the snap of a. FINGER i feel.

1234
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 4: YOU i remember when you was In. Phoenix, MAN i

1235
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 4: was loving that, too, bro like y'all changed the game snapping.

1236
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 4: Finger oh my, god you had Like steve and marsh

1237
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 4: stat you also had Tricks.

1238
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: Man And Joe.

1239
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: JOHNSON i was, like oh, man these boys they doing,

1240
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 3: it and my was killing It.

1241
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: All star when you first made your First All, star

1242
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: you made it your second, year.

1243
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: Hit it on That east.

1244
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: Squad it was hit us like seeing that picture of

1245
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: all y'all on. Her how was that look across the

1246
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: look in the locker room and you see the guys

1247
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: you was just looking AT tv two years ago Watching.

1248
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah that was, Amazing. Bro it was LIKE.

1249
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: Mj patrick ewing just Seeing, penny like do Work. Penny then,

1250
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 3: SHOCK i was, like, wow, like, damn this.

1251
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: Real i'm, Here i'm a part of this right.

1252
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 3: Right and THEN i looked over at the other warming

1253
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: up AND i go AND i see Dream David robinson the.

1254
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 3: Glove i'm, like oh, wow this is. Real so that

1255
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 3: was a highlight.

1256
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: Moment.

1257
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: MAN i.

1258
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: WAS i.

1259
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 3: WAS i tried to keep my, cool but, YEAH i

1260
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 3: was a little.

1261
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 4: Nervous how was it to play, LIKE i don't, know

1262
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 4: you want to say talent or? Skill this is one

1263
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 4: of the most skilled offensive players we've, seen like in T.

1264
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 4: Mac how was it to be that close to see

1265
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 4: what he was? Doing he WAS i, know he let

1266
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 4: the league and scoring a couple times while you was his,

1267
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 4: Teammate like just watching how nice he really was and

1268
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 4: you seeing that every day because you know how it

1269
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 4: is when we see somebody in, practice we get to

1270
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 4: see a little different glimpse of what going on and,

1271
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 4: Greatness like how was it playing with him and seeing

1272
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 4: how how just good he?

1273
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 3: Was, man it was beautiful to see the greatness That

1274
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 3: mac was able to display in. Person his skill level

1275
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 3: to be at that size six, eight, right and it

1276
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 3: was a, guard you, know and then his passion ability

1277
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 3: to be able to see the floor and past that,

1278
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 3: thing on time on target with his left. Hand you,

1279
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 3: Know i'm not saying it's strong. Hand i'm talking about

1280
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: his left hand on, time on, target hook, passes and

1281
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: then his scoring. Ability you, know he can score with

1282
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: the best of. Them, yes the one TIME i was

1283
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 3: a part of that game where he scored like what

1284
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 3: sixty three points or something like. That it was something,

1285
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 3: crazy but he did it so. Effortless that's the thing.

1286
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: That was a.

1287
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 4: Problem it was, Like i'm asleep out, here But i'm

1288
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 4: about to put fifty on, y'all like he was under the.

1289
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 4: RULE i knew WHEN i played, HIM i was going

1290
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 4: Straight chicago and this was just about to Be Red west.

1291
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,479
Speaker 4: Basketball i'm about to file the hell out you. Boy

1292
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 4: i'm about to file. You you're not about to just

1293
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 4: act the food on me like.

1294
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: You he could.

1295
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 4: Go he got the ability to go too. Crazy so

1296
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 4: the whole, Game i'm on, This i'm ready to. Fight

1297
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: i'm acting like some ship going down like you just seen.

1298
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 2: Ed i'm. Laughing i'm laughing at, this.

1299
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 3: Dude But i'm laughing Because i'm like not making. Fun

1300
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 3: i'm like laughing BECAUSE i already know how you wired

1301
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: and uh and other dudes don't understand. It So i'm,

1302
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 3: like that's that competitive dog and a boy from the.

1303
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: Shot and then with one thing that we have to you,

1304
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 3: know mentioned THAT i think people don't talk a lot

1305
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 3: about is that T mac. Was and they said a

1306
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: lot About lebron about How lebron was HIGH q and,

1307
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 3: yeah but T mac got high.

1308
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: Crazy man, Man like, YEAH i feel like he don't

1309
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: get enough. Credit every TIME i used to see, him

1310
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: every TIME i used to see, him he had thirty

1311
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 1: in his, pocket.

1312
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: Bona five every time saying bona.

1313
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 4: Five i'm telling, you like going to the, Game it's

1314
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 4: like all right already know Like i'm Knowing i'm about

1315
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 4: to either file out of get five And i'm about

1316
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 4: to be demonstrative and all of this BECAUSE i gotta

1317
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 4: try and do something to all set all of this goddamn.

1318
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,479
Speaker 4: ABILITY i gotta try and get some type of edge

1319
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 4: or somewhere because he ain't bushit like he had a full.

1320
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 4: Clip the hes he jumper was so it was out of.

1321
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 4: Here that has he jumper that he had, With oh

1322
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 4: that shit was out of. Here and then when he gets,

1323
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 4: there he.

1324
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: When he get, there he taking off he's flying Super

1325
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: he was one of the ones that surprised me, because

1326
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: like you, know when we first got to, lead that

1327
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: was like his first year In, orlando And toronto didn't

1328
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: let him show his talent the Way orlando he took

1329
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: off With orlando we got to. Lead that's what instantly

1330
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: went to the top three Scoring bro out of nowhere

1331
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: and it was like this. GUARANTEE i was.

1332
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 4: In attendance at the Legendary adidas camp where he went

1333
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 4: from out of nowhere to number.

1334
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: ONE i was.

1335
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 4: There you you had A bcd camp At. Princeton knew

1336
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 4: you remember how them courts was like in rolls across Like.

1337
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 4: Bro you could be way down on like court three

1338
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 4: or something and you can see him on the other

1339
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 4: end and you would just see that number, one seventy

1340
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 4: five raise up and do some.

1341
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: CRAZY i was like.

1342
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 4: This and Like, KEY i Remember key saying something about

1343
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 4: like at the, beginning Key on doing it because he

1344
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 4: played On Florida flash With. Kyow he, like, man we

1345
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 4: got this, Dude chasey, McGray doll he cold all the

1346
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 4: don't nobody know about them doll he never played, there

1347
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 4: you or none and all this man that man went

1348
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 4: from unranked to number?

1349
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: One, right how do two good guys get into? It

1350
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: Like Al harrington is one of my favorite. People and

1351
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: you and about old gu what about Favor.

1352
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 2: How do that even be? Possibly you know about?

1353
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: That how is that even possible that two of the

1354
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: most great guys ever get it to?

1355
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: IT i don't. Know we had them, all huh that's.

1356
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: Right, yeah we asked, that, like how you did y'all get?

1357
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: It? Man it was like.

1358
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 3: THIS i was playing for The pacers and the head

1359
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 3: coach Was Isaiah. Thomas you know How isaiah tried to

1360
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 3: get all these boys wired to try to play like

1361
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: the bad. Boys everybody ain't built Like lambert and how

1362
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: he Was horn and all those. Guys, Man so he

1363
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 3: had them boys juiced. Up they come To denver and

1364
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 3: they Had ja on their, team and you, know it's

1365
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 3: a competitive. Game SO i was underneath the basketbout to

1366
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 3: try to get offensive, rebound AND i sort of, like you,

1367
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 3: know put the hook with my elbow the boxing, out

1368
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 3: or maybe it was vice. Versas MAYBE i was going

1369
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 3: for the offensive. Rebound but here's What al. Did WHEN

1370
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 3: i put the elbow in across his, Chest my man

1371
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 3: flipped me back bro like like a like a body slam.

1372
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: Light so.

1373
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 3: That's not basketball. Here SO i get, UP i like

1374
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 3: popped him like you you, know and THEN i think

1375
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 3: it like shocked, him and so they break us. Up

1376
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 3: so then after, that as they we, Separated jermaine O'Neill

1377
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 3: comes by try to do a little slick move like

1378
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 3: a little hip check like like he because he was

1379
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 3: all the way down on the other end of the

1380
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 3: floor and he run it back and you, know come, on,

1381
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 3: man you, know we know when somebody's doing, something try

1382
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 3: to what they think that kind of you, know. Slick

1383
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 3: so THEN i pushed them up off, me BUT i

1384
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 3: swung got him AND i missed on. Him so that's

1385
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 3: how that thing broke. Out so we Now jermaine trying

1386
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 3: to like he gonna go to the back and try

1387
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 3: to meet me on the other. Side i'm, like no,

1388
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 3: problem let's get. It let's get, it and, uh you,

1389
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 3: know nothing ended up. Happening but that's how that situation

1390
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 3: happened without and to this, day like like first we,

1391
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 3: well obviously we have great interview with one, another great

1392
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 3: dude due of course. Person you are, right pure person,

1393
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 3: man awesome. Dude, man Justin vegas was like two years

1394
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 3: ago and we were out together and, uh you know

1395
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 3: you were thinking we were best of, friends two good.

1396
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: Guys, Man but that basketball make it, competitor BECAUSE i

1397
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: be fucking cute up every time we.

1398
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 2: Played every time he getting this. Work you know this

1399
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 2: my oldest son right. Here, man it's my first TIME.

1400
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: I played Against Chris webber in the league and rookie,

1401
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: year and he had as.

1402
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 4: First person to bust his. ASS O g was your.

1403
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 4: Homeboy you hear. Me you know this is my. Guy

1404
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 4: he busts my ass with all jump. HOOKS i couldn't catch.

1405
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 4: YOU i couldn't time, IT i couldn't use my.

1406
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,919
Speaker 1: Athleticism THEN i played, you you one of my, favorites

1407
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: and your one move THAT i took from you was

1408
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: like every time you post, up you did a jump,

1409
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: hook you a, Fake and that fucked up my rhythm

1410
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: because you a post, up you a. Fake you might

1411
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: pump fake or you're a fake and just go straight.

1412
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: Up so that was knocking timing. Off AND i was,

1413
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: Wondering i'm steady trying to get your jump, hooking, like,

1414
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: man HOW i can get?

1415
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 2: IT i added it to my, game you, know how

1416
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 2: you still moved and so?

1417
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: Forth who taught you that? Fake BECAUSE i felt like

1418
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: that was like your go to move was to post.

1419
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: Up i'm a.

1420
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: Fake you don't know If i'm gonna spend all the

1421
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: way or If i'm just gonna fake and jump. Hook

1422
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: but it always took the timing off of a defensive,

1423
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: player AND i took that and added it to my gun.

1424
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 2: Bow so say, so how was, It like where did

1425
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: you get that move? From? Yeah, man great.

1426
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 3: Question you, know LIKE i wasn't a super athletic like you, guys,

1427
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 3: man and footwork and fundamentals was WHAT i had, to you,

1428
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: know have within my game in order to get myself

1429
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 3: an advantage and get myself an opportunity to go out

1430
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 3: there and. Compete AND i learned that move from a

1431
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 3: guy and we're all familiar with and we know very,

1432
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 3: Well Kevin. McHale kevin, McHale like you talk about being

1433
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 3: a student of the game and studying and adding to your,

1434
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: game LIKE i learned it From, kevin And kevin like

1435
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 3: was an architect when it came to the postwark back

1436
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 3: to the basket and now like, today like you watch

1437
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 3: any of our, Games Hunter dickinson, Yeah i've given him.

1438
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 2: That we work on.

1439
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 3: That you, know my big, Fella Austin, davis we work

1440
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 3: on that.

1441
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: Move they jump hooking all. Year it's a.

1442
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 3: Tough move to, like especially athletic dudes that waiting the

1443
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 3: time to block your. Shot, like first of, all the

1444
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 3: jump hook is never gonna go out of style and

1445
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 3: it's always gonna be one of the most effective moves

1446
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 3: and it's tough to.

1447
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: Block that's the. Product that's the PART i was just sick.

1448
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: Of i'm, like, man my fab five. Guys, man they

1449
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 1: jump hooking the shit out of, me AND i gotta.

1450
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: STOP i can't stop. It SO i got to try

1451
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: not to let them just get the. Ball and, then

1452
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: LIKE i, said yours Against, webber WHAT i noticed about,

1453
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: you no matter what you, did it always was that.

1454
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 2: Fake AND i realized that fake was.

1455
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: Time it's making the defensive player lose timing of what you're.

1456
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: Doing AND i had to add that to it and

1457
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: it was successful for. Me that was one of the

1458
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: moves THAT i took from somebody and it worked with my.

1459
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 3: Game and you a bad boy, Man oh my, God,

1460
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 3: wow you talk but people talk ABOUT. Kg i'm, like,

1461
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 3: yo IF i recall they were like talking about you

1462
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:22,560
Speaker 3: with a YOUNG kg.

1463
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: Right, YEAH, kg yeah, Yeah. YO i remember you and

1464
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: McDonald's All american, game.

1465
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 4: Just dunking, everything following on his, ass kind of hang

1466
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 4: on the, rim following horizontal on his ass out.

1467
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 2: THERE i, said hogo stick. Man i'm, LIKE i was

1468
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: right back up and ran back, down, right BUT i

1469
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 2: was sticking.

1470
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 4: BONE i tell you this, though, because like you, said

1471
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 4: you a, competitor you a. Champion and how was it

1472
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 4: when you won THE Nba, Championship like how was that

1473
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 4: feeling of like because it was at The Long Gas

1474
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 4: journey for, You, like how was that to really win

1475
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 4: it and, be you, know you the.

1476
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:06,839
Speaker 2: Champion i'm a. Champion what was that feeling for? You seventeen? Years?

1477
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 3: Gee seventeen years, gee Seventeen like that was, amazing. Bro

1478
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 3: For like there were times WHEN i was about to.

1479
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 3: Retire i'm, like, Yo i'm considered a, loser, BRO i

1480
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 3: can't win it. All and then we went to the

1481
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 3: finals the year Versus dallas and we lost in the

1482
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 3: finals for two, Series LIKE i never. FORGET i went

1483
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: home And i'm, like, yo, MAN i must be a.

1484
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 3: Loser it must be. ME i done lost high, school

1485
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 3: AND i lost two in, college and NOW i just

1486
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 3: lost in THE. Nba But rousing, spoke you, know they

1487
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 3: wanted me to come back and join the, team AND

1488
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 3: i never forget that. Summer you talk about all of

1489
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: us in, pain and we feel that what we just,

1490
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 3: experienced that we couldn't wait for the season start because

1491
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 3: we determined to year. Back and our first game was

1492
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 3: Versus dallas and At dallas where they were getting their

1493
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 3: ring ceremony and we in the, back we steaming as

1494
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 3: we're waiting to get go out there to warm up

1495
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 3: to play the.

1496
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: Game we.

1497
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 3: Steaming we felt that was our ring and that year

1498
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 3: we just that. Game first of, all we blew Out

1499
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 3: dallas by like thirty or FORTY i think it. Was

1500
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 3: and then then he's a man like everybody about to get,

1501
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 3: it and, uh we finally want it and we're on

1502
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 3: the stage, man And i'm, like, yo, man this is.

1503
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 3: Real SO i recall going back in the back where

1504
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 3: it was trying to like pop the champagne and there

1505
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 3: were some guys that was about to grasp some. Gargles i'm,

1506
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 3: like hell, NO i don't want no. GARGLES i want

1507
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 3: to feel that. Burn, RIGHT i feel like the eyes.

1508
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: Burning.

1509
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 3: MAN i remember watching ON Tv man like a lot

1510
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 3: of dudes winning At. NIGHT kg wanted one year From

1511
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 3: shy And Tony allen when they wanted AN mj when

1512
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 3: he was winning, six Trouvel, man you, know Watching magic

1513
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 3: when he won his And cole you, know winning his

1514
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: five and shocking all those. Guys i'm, like, yo, MAN

1515
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 3: i just want to expirens. IT i got the chanpagne

1516
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 3: or it was, burning but it was worth to, burn.

1517
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 3: Man AND i look back on, that you, KNOW i

1518
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 3: was just that was the icing on the cake for

1519
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 3: the career because ALL i just wanted to be is

1520
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 3: just go out as a as a.

1521
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 4: Champion, yeah that's that's sick right. There this is a little.

1522
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 4: NOSE i could have been a part of that. Team

1523
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 4: REMEMBER i.

1524
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: Was there a year before that when y'all lost the first.

1525
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 4: Year riley wanted me to remember that was the year

1526
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 4: when they got The Big. Three they only had one

1527
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 4: year deals for. Everybody SO i was part of that

1528
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 4: plan to be.

1529
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 2: On the one year deal.

1530
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 4: Thing but Then orlando came in with a four year

1531
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 4: deal and you already know Jay E double was, LIKE,

1532
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 4: q you're going to get that four, years my.

1533
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 2: Boy you, know he was like, you, like, yeah it's.

1534
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 2: Great i'm pretty sure they're gonna win.

1535
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 4: One but, listen you're gonna get them four, years my,

1536
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 4: Boy like you know What i'm.

1537
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 2: Saying, jeez no, DOUBT i get.

1538
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: It, cute it's pain like hoops, environment that's all the

1539
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: time of getting that. Run AND i, remember like you

1540
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: in the wars you And Twine walker used to have

1541
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: and you know the matchups and and the runs we

1542
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: used to get with a good workout in the. Environment you,

1543
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: Know tim kept the riff raff and the bullshit out

1544
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: the gym and it was strictly about this hoop and

1545
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: getting each other. Better like how was hoops for you

1546
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: every summer you came in for your not only for

1547
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,480
Speaker 1: you and your whole career and you know you moving, forward.

1548
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 3: Man that was some of the best, Runs like you mentioned,

1549
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 3: earlier the best. Runs and you talk about getting prepared

1550
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 3: for the upcoming, season like hoops runs will prepare you

1551
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: for up coming season because in the off season you're

1552
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,440
Speaker 3: getting the best of the best that's flowing Through, Chicago,

1553
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 3: chicago you, know BEING. MJ i remember that summer WHEN,

1554
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 3: mj when he was making his. Comeback you, know the

1555
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 3: gym was. Flooded you, know we had everybody. STUPID i ain't,

1556
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 3: YEAH i ain't know if there's trying to be a

1557
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 3: group you or they want to get some money.

1558
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 2: In BUT i guess we always, benefits right who we're

1559
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 2: gonna get some eat and. Brugs, yeah that's the best

1560
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: of the.

1561
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 3: Environment but you, know obviously with you, two you know

1562
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: your talent level being in. There you, Know Jake, crawford

1563
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 3: you know you you touched on it. Early you, know

1564
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 3: me And fans was the, regulars and you Know Antoine.

1565
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 3: Walker you know those competitive, matchups you know you're definitely

1566
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 3: going to be playing against another stud who's that either

1567
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 3: that dude on THE nba team or he's you, know

1568
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 3: the third best, player and you don't hear about, it

1569
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 3: and you don't want to sit on the floor and

1570
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 3: wait for the next team because you're gonna probably have

1571
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 3: to wait another two or three. Games so those games

1572
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 3: was extremely competitive because you didn't want to sit and

1573
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 3: wait for.

1574
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: It So i'm talking about twenty strong two courts going

1575
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: and nothing but.

1576
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,480
Speaker 2: Ballers that was the best.

1577
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 4: Hoop like, ever like, period like you know, me like

1578
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 4: especially my first couple of years in the. League like

1579
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 4: WHEN i got back To, hoops that was my. Turn

1580
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 4: it was, like Now i'm about to make everybody fucking

1581
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 4: pay BECAUSE i. AIN'T i used to feel LIKE i

1582
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 4: ain't get to, play you know What i'm. Saying, See

1583
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 4: And i'd be, like all, right where they? At please

1584
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 4: come to stop this summer because Now i'm gonna really

1585
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 4: get to play high. PLAY i ain't got no coach

1586
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 4: holding me. BACK i ain't got this in minutes LIKE

1587
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 4: i used to be. Ready i'll tell you like, season

1588
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 4: because you know we Was, clippers.

1589
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 2: Bro we wasn't winning.

1590
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 4: Nothing two three week, mark, man we sit in our

1591
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 4: cars and everything. Home soon we do them exit. Meetings we.

1592
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: Gone i'm back by the playoffs going. On i'm A

1593
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 2: hoop's going by the first round.

1594
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: Going we At hoop after The memorial. Weekend we At

1595
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: hoop Before. June getting that work in. Lead i'm talking

1596
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: About jim deserted like about like only thing coming through

1597
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: a draft.

1598
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 2: Pick we ain't seeing. Y'all out Of. August we got

1599
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: two bucks of the every, year no, playoffs, life no,

1600
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: Playoffs like, boy.

1601
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: You gotta put the work in though you still gotta

1602
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: get the. Work so we definitely used to be. There

1603
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: the gym used to be, Deserted like, damn.

1604
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 4: Hey, listen you. Listen this is the one thing THAT

1605
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 4: i ALWAYS i can't SAY i tried to go about

1606
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 4: it like you, did BUT i. DIDN'T i don't THINK

1607
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 4: i quite achieved, it you know, how like you, had

1608
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 4: you had a.

1609
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: WAY i know where you got it. FROM i know

1610
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: where you know What i'm.

1611
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 4: Saying just talk about the toughness that's inside, you that

1612
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 4: it's been put on this BUT i can remember it was.

1613
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 4: Something was it when you were with the heat when

1614
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 4: you had to go up pregaming like, yo, Yo like

1615
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 4: you know What i'm, Saying and like in that MOMENT

1616
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 4: i was, LOOKING i was, like, YO i know what's

1617
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 4: happening right. Now but, like just talk ABOUT i don't

1618
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 4: know how you was able to mesh the, profession the

1619
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 4: lism but still be able to pull That chicago out.

1620
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: When you need to and let them know that they

1621
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 2: ain't never went. Nowhere.

1622
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, man it's, uh it's a very unique trait that

1623
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 4: you that you possessed because like, me like when The

1624
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 4: chicago come out this, OUT i can't really tuck it

1625
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 4: back there, now so you know What i'm. Saying like,

1626
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 4: you carry a whole. Differently you remember the one. MOMENT

1627
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 4: i remember.

1628
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: A couple of your. MOMENTS i remember they both was

1629
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 3: In New york. Moments one was a team versus a

1630
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 3: teammate and another one was versus an opponent man that

1631
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 3: was playing In. Boston i'm gonna name his, name BUT

1632
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 3: i remember your moments because you, Know i'm, Like, yo

1633
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 3: that's my young boy right. There, man my bro, man

1634
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 3: y'all watch. Out but but you need some maid and.

1635
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 3: Assists we're here for. You but you, know que, MAN

1636
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 3: i think it is Sometimes i'm not gonna SAY i

1637
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 3: want every fight going, up but you, know being light

1638
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 3: skinned factor has always been. That you, know people mistake

1639
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 3: that and then also people look at. It you, know

1640
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 3: when you gotta smile on your face and you're being

1641
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 3: respectful with, everyone and they sometimes they will take that.

1642
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 3: Lightly but where we come from is like when you

1643
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 3: reach that level where you step over that that rope

1644
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 3: and you're trying to, like you, know really test the man's,

1645
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 3: manhood Then i'm gonna see. Red and WHEN i get see,

1646
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 3: red it's gonna be tough to bring me. Back But

1647
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 3: i'm gonna respect, everyone and WHENEVER i feel YOU i get,

1648
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 3: disrespected then that's the time WHEN i got to, KNOW

1649
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 3: i got to defend. Myself BUT i think we got

1650
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 3: a chance to see that this past season WHEN i

1651
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 3: was coaching on the. Tournament, Tournament. MAN i hate to

1652
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 3: bring that back, up but like you know that that

1653
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 3: was where you, KNOW i can't let no man throw that.

1654
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 3: Line man get my, space because once you're alive one,

1655
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 3: time then he or others will feel they can do

1656
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 3: the same. Thing and at the same, time like you,

1657
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 3: know this is a certain respect level that it has to,

1658
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 3: be you, know, regardless that respect level has to be

1659
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 3: on both levels and.

1660
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 4: Reciprocated the PART i commend you on is that even

1661
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 4: though that, happened you came right out immediately and you were.

1662
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 4: Accountable you were accountable for, yourself you know What i'm.

1663
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 4: Saying in front of your players and, teammates you told

1664
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 4: them that you know that wasn't you know the right

1665
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 4: way to handle, it although you shed light and gave

1666
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 4: insight into what happened and why it. Happened and you

1667
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 4: know What i'm, Saying like you, said we all nobody's

1668
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 4: perfect and, everything like, That but LIKE i have to

1669
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 4: go out of my way to salute you for being

1670
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 4: the way you are because you make.

1671
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: It possible for other, Guys like you know What i'm.

1672
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 4: Saying there's plenty of guys just retired from THE nba

1673
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 4: or played and you, know would love to be. Coaching

1674
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 4: and you know, YOU i think it's another stigma out,

1675
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 4: there and you And Big pat go against because they

1676
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 4: say big men can't coach and all of that crap

1677
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 4: and blah blah.

1678
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 2: Blah and SO i.

1679
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 4: Mean the way that you, guys you stack house all

1680
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 4: the guys out. There anybody missing, this you, know going

1681
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 4: out there coaching in the league and as well as

1682
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 4: in college being head.

1683
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 2: Coaches y'all set on the table by the way you doing,

1684
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 2: it you know.

1685
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 4: What i'm, Saying because you know how people on the

1686
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 4: women's side as, Well but, like you know how they

1687
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 4: look at, Us you wanta we come through the.

1688
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 2: Door to do. Whatever the first thought is that here

1689
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 2: come a player to think they're gona better get it

1690
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: treated like a.

1691
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 4: Player so like the fact that you're able to go

1692
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 4: in there and roll your sleeves up and really grind

1693
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 4: it out and show THAT i don't have none of

1694
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 4: that in.

1695
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 2: Me i'm willing to.

1696
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 4: Work i'm learning like everything you said, earlier like you

1697
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 4: got to learn his mentality or growth, mentality all of

1698
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 4: those different.

1699
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 2: Things that makes it so much easier for the next.

1700
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 4: Dude who deserves an opportunity like you and people that

1701
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 4: weren't getting those positions like. You, see it ain't no.

1702
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 4: Secret Like Mike woodson got the. Job he been a head,

1703
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 4: coach he got that job. COMPLETELY i feel like based

1704
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 4: upon your success that you had just had and they

1705
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 4: looking at it, like, man we could try and catch

1706
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 4: some of that excitement in a. Bottle he's alma monitor

1707
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 4: and all of that, stuff alumni of our, school a prestigious.

1708
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 4: Dude SO i feel like when it needs to be

1709
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 4: highlighted that you going out there doing things right, way

1710
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 4: even from when you were at the. Heat you know

1711
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 4: What i'm, saying doing things the right, way going about

1712
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 4: it the right, way grinding and really working because you know,

1713
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 4: Me i'm a, scouter you know, Me, Nuke i'm always

1714
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 4: all up in the business over, there And i'll be

1715
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 4: asking like what's going every single THING i ever Heard

1716
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 4: juwan doing, This he's doing great at. This he's working

1717
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,919
Speaker 4: at that he's, learning and then it's like you continue

1718
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 4: to be that example for me to how to you

1719
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 4: know What i'm, saying go about EVERYTHING i go about

1720
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 4: and showing me that if this is the right way to,

1721
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 4: go because look at, this this is what you've been

1722
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 4: looking at the whole, time and he's continuing to change

1723
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 4: the game and prosper and do more great. Things BECAUSE

1724
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 4: i didn't never see you being a college coach and

1725
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 4: winning College National coach of The year doing all these

1726
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 4: great things and recruiting and getting recruiting.

1727
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: Classes and all.

1728
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 4: That BUT i, mean obviously it makes sense because you

1729
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 4: one of us who wouldn't want to go play for

1730
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 4: somebody that's been through literally everything that you wish you

1731
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 4: could go. Through you know What i'm, Saying like you

1732
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 4: didn't been places that people aspire to get to and want.

1733
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 4: To SO i, MEAN i just feel like that needs

1734
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 4: to be, said oh, gee BECAUSE i really know that that's

1735
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 4: impacting the way that this is being done in the.

1736
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 3: Future, MAN i appreciate. That, Man thank you for acknowledging.

1737
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 3: It you, KNOW i just always said, this, man WHEN

1738
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 3: i got this, job it's bigger than, me and it's

1739
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 3: not about. Me it's, about you, know the guys that

1740
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 3: you just touched, on the guys that are look like

1741
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 3: me and want to having this, opportunity been working so,

1742
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 3: hard haven't had the chance, Yet guys that are looking

1743
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 3: forward to having the opportunity and for me to come

1744
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 3: in be trusted by our ad who's someone who looks like,

1745
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 3: me and to go out on the, limb and how

1746
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 3: he got beat up in the media for choosing me

1747
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 3: as his head coach to run this. PROGRAM i go

1748
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 3: back to my grandmother and HOW i was. Raised i'm, like,

1749
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 3: YO i can't f this. UP i can't because you,

1750
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 3: know like there's a lot of folks that depend, on you,

1751
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 3: know me to do it the right. Way their livelihoods

1752
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 3: has been in my, hands like my assistant, coaches you,

1753
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 3: know their their livelihoods is in my, hands you. Know

1754
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 3: AND i hadn't gotten to the student athletes, yet but

1755
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: our a d and then they're you, know guys that

1756
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 3: are either coming from THE nba level or guys that

1757
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 3: are in college that have been coaching on different, schools different,

1758
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 3: universities different, conferences that's been passed over and passed over

1759
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 3: former players that's coming.

1760
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 2: IN i gotta do the right. Thing.

1761
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 3: MAN i GOTTA i gotta, GRIND i gotta, WORK i gotta,

1762
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 3: learn keep, learning keep, growing keep. GRINDING i love for

1763
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 3: them to keep counting me. Out let's, go let's, go

1764
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 3: let's go with, It.

1765
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 2: Let's get. It i'm.

1766
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 3: Competitive i'm, like, yo y'all really don't. KNOW mg ain't

1767
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 3: the only competitive one out? Here like, all, like that's

1768
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 3: what we, Do that's what we come from the.

1769
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 2: City. Man we.

1770
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 3: Prideful. Man we also we've got a chip on our.

1771
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 3: Shoulder yeah we all have. Egos YEAH i got a ego.

1772
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 3: Too But i'm not going to like allow what you

1773
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 3: KNOW i hear from the, naysayers like dictate how they

1774
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 3: feel they want me to do it their. Way we've

1775
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 3: done this, before. Fellas we've been doing this since we

1776
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 3: were six years.

1777
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 2: Old.

1778
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 3: Man and basketball is, evolving AND i won't try to

1779
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 3: evolve as.

1780
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 1: Well The Dwan Howard, foundation what made you started and

1781
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: what is it all?

1782
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: About?

1783
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 3: WELL i started back in nineteen ninety, four and you,

1784
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 3: know my thing was growing up the way we. Did you,

1785
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 3: know unprivileged families didn't have, much but whatever we, had you,

1786
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 3: know we we were able to you, know. Survive and you,

1787
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 3: know looking at the neighborhoods and how the other young

1788
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 3: families that are struggling out. HERE i want to do

1789
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 3: WHEREVER i can and try to help them make a

1790
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 3: difference in the community as well as educational where do

1791
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 3: wherever we can from a sense of helping promote the

1792
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 3: literacy within the inner. City so that's why that was

1793
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 3: my why on starting the foundation giving back to now

1794
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 3: only in, area but for teams that you, know in

1795
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 3: cities That i've. Lived it was from the, heart, man

1796
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i know that's what my grandmother would have wanted

1797
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 3: me to do because of that's how who she was

1798
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,759
Speaker 3: and that's how she taught myself and my other family

1799
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 3: members on you, know being able to serve. Others and

1800
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 3: that was my biggest. Wife and so to this, day you,

1801
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 3: know now being a head coach at you, know at the,

1802
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 3: university my being involved with the my foundation is very

1803
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 3: limited because of there's so many N c DOUBLE a

1804
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 3: rules on how and what you can do through your

1805
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 3: foundation on helping you, know families and kids of that

1806
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 3: are seventh grade or.

1807
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 2: Higher so that's.

1808
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 4: CRAZY i hadn't even thought about, that BUT i could.

1809
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 3: Imagine that's the worst thing about the job BECAUSE i

1810
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 3: love my. JOB i don't even look at it as a.

1811
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 3: Job but that's one of the things THAT i had

1812
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 3: to really separate myself from my foundation now That i'm

1813
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 3: a head coach at The universe.

1814
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 4: Speaking on, you saying like why are you how you

1815
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 4: came back to college to you, know recapture the try

1816
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 4: to get the title that you couldn't win when you was,

1817
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 4: Playing LIKE i can, remember you, know when y'all won

1818
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 4: The Big Ten championship And i'm sitting.

1819
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: There Like i'm.

1820
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 4: HYPED i literally was recording on my ig story like

1821
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 4: look at my dog and then like for me to

1822
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 4: see you get that mom with your guys and then

1823
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 4: you hit the cash that like just tell me for

1824
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 4: you like from way back when you was in that

1825
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 4: hallway hitting that because that was the Whole it was

1826
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 4: just playing like a real in my, head like this

1827
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 4: man that went from from being there himself and doing

1828
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 4: that dance in the hallway to the cameras and now

1829
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 4: here you are all these years, later back at home

1830
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 4: at your college with a group of kids and you

1831
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 4: doing this on this, Stage like how did that feel for?

1832
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 2: You?

1833
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 3: Man C i'm getting, chills, man goosebumps right, now, man

1834
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 3: because it was a great. Feeling, man it. Was you

1835
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,759
Speaker 3: can't script it any. Better, yeah you being a student

1836
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 3: app fleet here and you, know being counted out by,

1837
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 3: many whether you're being counted out by you, know the,

1838
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 3: hood or you, know you're getting counted out by the,

1839
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 3: media getting counted out by your. Opponents and then for

1840
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 3: us to accomplish what we were able to accomplish as

1841
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 3: student athletes and as a freshman to go to The final,

1842
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: four that was. Strong and then now fast, Forward i've

1843
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 3: become a head coach here at my alma, mater And

1844
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 3: i've never been a head coach, before been on THE

1845
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 3: nba level as an assistant for six. Years your, Critics

1846
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 3: you're gonna have, critics and you know that's a part of.

1847
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 2: It and you, KNOW i hear.

1848
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 3: IT i heard it where oh, man he never coached.

1849
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 3: Before you, know this is a publicity stunt for The

1850
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 3: michigan and being able to hire you, know a fab

1851
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 3: five and, player Former Fat fiber and you, know just

1852
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 3: going to sell tickets and you, know does he know

1853
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 3: how to coach on the collegiate? Level And i'm, like, okay,

1854
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 3: well you KNOW i got to prove. Myself that's. Okay

1855
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 3: i've done this. Before you, Know i've also played basketball

1856
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 3: SINCE i was six years. Old IF i Were, hall

1857
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 3: the ball is still, orange and you, know it still

1858
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 3: takes five people to go out there and, play you,

1859
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 3: know on offensive end and defensive. End i'm not going

1860
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 3: to reinvent the wheel. Here i'm just gonna also. Learn

1861
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 3: i'm going to make mistakes as our. Coach Like i'm,

1862
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 3: Human i'm also have a growth, mindset willing to. Learn

1863
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 3: but we're going to be. Competitive and this, year you,

1864
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 3: know last year we didn't get a chance of playing

1865
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 3: a tournament because he got season ended because of the.

1866
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 3: Pandemic but we were on the roll then before. Injury

1867
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 3: and so this year we're fortunate enough to win The

1868
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 3: Big ten. Championship AND i had told the guys back

1869
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 3: In june we first came back to start, training trying

1870
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 3: to have a season while this pandemic is going. On, yo,

1871
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 3: man we stepped in this. Gym we fight for three,

1872
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 3: Championships Big, Ten Big Ten tournament AND. Ncuba any of

1873
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 3: you don't believe, it me know NOW i will find

1874
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 3: another school for. You AND i would make up a

1875
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 3: story just to, say, hey you know, what you decided

1876
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 3: to transfer because you feel that this is not the

1877
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 3: place for. You But i'm gonna let you know. This

1878
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 3: we're not for, Everyone So i'm gonna make you guys.

1879
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 3: Uncomfortable are you willing to get? Uncomfortable and they all bought.

1880
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 3: In the staff was on board and from day, one,

1881
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 3: man we were building to win championships and it was

1882
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:31,759
Speaker 3: engraved in our minds and we believed. It and that's

1883
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 3: where as the season started to, progress and then we

1884
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,839
Speaker 3: started to you, know catch a little you know. Fire

1885
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 3: we had good health on our. Side and our second

1886
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 3: game we played At maryland On New Year's, eve the thirty,

1887
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 3: first and we won that game At. MARYLAND i think

1888
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 3: that's when maybe the staff started believing, It like we got.

1889
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 3: SOMETHING i had believe in it day. One maybe somebody

1890
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 3: THINK i was, Crazy WELL i was, unrealistic BUT i

1891
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 3: say we got we got enough here and uh be

1892
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:06,679
Speaker 3: able to share that moment now with our guys and

1893
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 3: dancing and you, know winning In big ten championship and

1894
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 3: for my son to be, there and he's the one

1895
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 3: that hypen me up. About hey here, this you, know

1896
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 3: he started doing the catch. Back my son hyped me. Up,

1897
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 3: man there you, go, yeah, Man and then we got that. Tournament.

1898
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 3: Bro you, know it's like the. Bubble let's. Go let's

1899
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 3: make the best out this. Bubble you. Know and that's

1900
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,759
Speaker 3: another thing, Too like this. Bubble we got to embrace,

1901
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,799
Speaker 3: this like this your, condo your you, know your. PARTNER

1902
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 3: i had our guys man making up their, dead's changing

1903
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 3: their sheets every.

1904
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 2: Week you.

1905
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 3: Know Like lennas, like, yo you're gonna get comfortable. Here you,

1906
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 3: know we're not about to be excited about going back

1907
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 3: to our, dorms our. APARTMENTS i told my, Wife i'm

1908
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 3: not seeing you until six weeks from. That she'll get

1909
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 3: you to let's. Go i'm, like then let's.

1910
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 2: Go let me ask you.

1911
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 1: THIS i know you was assistant, coach and you, know

1912
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:10,719
Speaker 1: your assistant, coach your dreams to become a head coach

1913
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: in THE, Nba, like how hard was it to change

1914
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 1: your path and be, like you know, What i'm gonna

1915
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 1: go To michigan And i'm gonna be the, coach Or

1916
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: i'm gonna try to be a college. Coach like how

1917
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:25,640
Speaker 1: was it to change your path from trying to be

1918
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 1: AN nba coach to go on to?

1919
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 3: College there was only one college that IF i wanted

1920
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 3: to go and coach in, college there was a job

1921
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 3: that was available if they was trying to people say

1922
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 3: give you the, bag you, know And bill was having

1923
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 3: to be a different school other Than, michigan AND i

1924
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,799
Speaker 3: would have stayed on That Miami heat staff and continue

1925
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 3: to keep growing and learning on the coach BECAUSE i

1926
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 3: was very happy WHERE i was.

1927
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 2: At.

1928
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah you, know once you're part Of Miami heat culture,

1929
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 3: family you, know it's.

1930
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,919
Speaker 2: Life, Baby it's just like like Bad boys for life.

1931
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 3: Or like The Young godfather man With Don, cono man

1932
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 3: like you IN i love you. Man they're gonna take

1933
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 3: care of, you and they gonna they're gonna grow with

1934
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 3: you and help you, grow and like they're gonna serve.

1935
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 3: You and that being, said The michigan job came, available

1936
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 3: And i'm like. YO i told my, Wife i'm like,

1937
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 3: yo Coach beeline. Left she saw like the smile on MY.

1938
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 2: I keep in, mind like FELLAS.

1939
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:30,839
Speaker 3: I, WAS i was like now when the Coach beeline

1940
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 3: made his announcement to Choose Cleveland cavaliers that, DAY i

1941
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 3: woke up that morning preparing for my interview for The

1942
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 3: Minnesota timberwalls to be their head. Coach so my, mindset

1943
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 3: my focus started to focus a little bit more On, Michigan,

1944
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 3: like oh, wow that's that, job, man that sounds very.

1945
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 3: Inviting you, KNOW i always said. That people asked me

1946
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 3: IF i ever want to be in the coaching IF i,

1947
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 3: GO i DO i ever want to consider college? Level

1948
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 3: And i've always, said you, know only one, school and That's.

1949
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 3: Michigan BUT i was preparing to be a head coach

1950
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 3: in the. League and one YEAR i had three interviews

1951
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 3: and uh got. Passed and that was, okay, cool no.

1952
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 3: Problem you, KNOW i gotta work a little, HARD i

1953
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 3: gotta grow a little bit.

1954
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 2: More that's.

1955
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 3: Cool you, know that's where we're, from from that shot.

1956
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 3: Town you, know, Like, yo we're gonna we're gonna roll

1957
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 3: up our sleeves and you, know prove. Ourselves let's let's do.

1958
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,799
Speaker 3: It so then the next, year you, know the, season

1959
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 3: THE nba season passed and, uh once The Miami heat

1960
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 3: season was, over you, know my agent hit me up

1961
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 3: AND i had three more you, know interviews for three different,

1962
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 3: teams and, uh you KNOW i made the right. DECISION

1963
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 3: i MEAN i really. Did i'm forever that to The

1964
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 3: Miami Heat coachure and Coach. BOE i always say this,

1965
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 3: man That i'm part of the Coach boaster's, tree and

1966
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 3: he's so he's so, humble, man he don't even look

1967
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 3: at it, like, yo, man you know WHAT i, mean,

1968
01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 3: man championship, coach hall Of fame. Coach you, know he

1969
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 3: definitely be in The hall of. Fame you, know just

1970
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 3: so chilled, man straight, up that's what makes him.

1971
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 2: Great. MAN i love.

1972
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 4: It, Man tell me, this how did you you finish

1973
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 4: your career playing career there In? Miami how was that

1974
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 4: transition into, like all, Right i'm a. COACH i remember sitting.

1975
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 4: THERE i talked too about you, know the staff and all,

1976
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 4: that and he was telling me.

1977
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 2: LIKE i Mean, juwan you know When juwan.

1978
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 4: Started he was, like you, know he didn't, know like

1979
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 4: when you told he told you was gonna be coaching

1980
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 4: the summer league team and stuff like. That how did

1981
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 4: you get to the point like all, Right i'm, playing

1982
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 4: but Now i'm about to slide over, here because it

1983
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 4: was like, saying but you went straight from playing to the,

1984
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 4: Bench like at what point did that come about or

1985
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 4: did those talks come about or Did spoe approach you

1986
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 4: or did you approach.

1987
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 3: Him, yeah the first conversation and the talks. Started it

1988
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 3: was after we won our second championship And David, fizdale

1989
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 3: he was an assistant on the staff And, Fizz, yeah,

1990
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 3: Man fizz bro And fizz And, Tasha tasha his. Wife

1991
01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 3: they came over to the house hang out with me And,

1992
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,600
Speaker 3: janine my, wife and we sitting in the in the

1993
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 3: spot and we talking and we chopping it.

1994
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 2: Up you. Know fizz, man he.

1995
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 3: Got that that, personality you, know that infectious. Type you

1996
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 3: know how he's going to communicate things to you and

1997
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 3: he gonna sell it to, you, boy and that's going

1998
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 3: to be you, know he don't make it sound, great

1999
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 3: which he speaks his, mind he speaks his. Heart and,

2000
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 3: Uh fizz is, like, man we love how your on.

2001
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 2: Staff we need you.

2002
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 3: Man you know the amount of respect that these guys

2003
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 3: have for. You you've been in the locker room with, Them

2004
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 3: you've been in the trenches with, them and your voice

2005
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 3: matters and they are stabbing. Them have no one like

2006
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 3: yourself on. It And i'm, like, yo, MAN i don't

2007
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 3: know about, that you, know BECAUSE i never wanted to

2008
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,640
Speaker 3: be on the dark, side you, know the dark, side you,

2009
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 3: know it's.

2010
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 2: Like they look at you on the dark.

2011
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 3: Side then players don't really want to mess with your trust. You,

2012
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 3: yeah Then i'm like WHAT i, Say i'm, like, Man

2013
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 3: i've been in the trenches with these. DUDES i built, relationships,

2014
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 3: man AND i don't want them to look at me as,

2015
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 3: like you, Know i'm some snitch Or i'm not with

2016
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,719
Speaker 3: them or for. Them And i'm, like, Yo pron and

2017
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 3: you Know bush and D Wade man and you D.

2018
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 3: Man i'm, like, yo these are my. Brothers. Man i'm, like,

2019
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 3: NAH i don't know about, this let me think about.

2020
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,839
Speaker 3: It so THEN i met With roles for exit, interview

2021
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 3: And roles had already knew THAT i was either considering

2022
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 3: like joining his like staff as far as being on

2023
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 3: the front office, staff and he talked about like being a,

2024
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 3: RECRUIT i MEAN i, Recruse i'm, sorry scout, scout going

2025
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 3: on the road and scout uh and then working my

2026
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 3: way up to you, know be A gm someday and

2027
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 3: follow his. Path and Then rowse was, like, well you

2028
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 3: know What spoe had talked, about you, know you joining the,

2029
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 3: staff AND i see a lot of coaching in. YOU

2030
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 3: i see a lot of teaching in, you and one

2031
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 3: thing about if you're out there on the road as a,

2032
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 3: scout you're gonna be out there by yourself and different,

2033
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 3: hotels and the hotels is not as inviting as it

2034
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 3: was when you staying at the seasons as a. Player

2035
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 3: he started talking that, story and he, Said, hey check this.

2036
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 3: Out i'm going To africa for two weeks and me

2037
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 3: for a, vacation and WHEN i get back for my,

2038
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 3: vacation let's. Meet that will give you two weeks to

2039
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 3: decide if you want, to you, know go to the

2040
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 3: scouting route and join the front office or be an

2041
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 3: assistant and started player. Development SO i gave her some,

2042
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 3: thought talked though my. WIFE i really didn't talk it

2043
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 3: over with my. Wife she can't.

2044
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 2: Still fight salty at me about.

2045
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 3: THIS i don't know IF i talked over, her BUT

2046
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 3: i told her the, story and, UH i, said you,

2047
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 3: Know i'm gonna go with the coaching.

2048
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 2: Route.

2049
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 3: MAN i felt that there was this was WHAT i

2050
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 3: Needed spoth he wanted to need. Me it's tough to

2051
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 3: turn down any one of. Them but at the end

2052
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,719
Speaker 3: of the, Day i'm still being The Miami heat. Family

2053
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 3: AND i made that transition into. COACHING i always, said

2054
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 3: If i'm gonna go and. Coach i'm not gonna play

2055
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 3: against my players in one on. One i'm not gonna

2056
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 3: do shooting games with them BECAUSE i do not want

2057
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 3: the players to think THAT i still want to be a.

2058
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 3: PLAYER i still want to get. Check it's like a.

2059
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 2: Player you.

2060
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 3: Know i'm serious about. Coaching So i'm a shocked rebound

2061
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 3: rebound for, them shock balls for, them whatever they need

2062
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 3: me to. Do BUT i ain't gonna be Playing. No

2063
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 3: five and five setting On.

2064
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 2: No three on. Three i'm not gonna be that.

2065
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 1: Coach speaking Of miami AND u d, like, uh you

2066
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,919
Speaker 1: play with teams and use that key veteran for teams

2067
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 1: like teams these days don't have that veteran guy on their.

2068
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Team like at the end of your career stended a

2069
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 1: little bit longer because you, KNOW i always felt like

2070
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 1: the team that you was, on the reason they signed

2071
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: you was to keep these guys in order to keep the.

2072
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Team you see a guy like, uh, you dona's hassle

2073
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 1: here last of a dying breeze for him to be

2074
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: like on the team and be there and not be

2075
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 1: the so called guy that's really playing, minutes but the

2076
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 1: guy that's on the team that's keeping it, together like

2077
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 1: speak on your DYNA's hassle and you seeing them from

2078
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 1: a young. Fella so now where he's at, NOW a

2079
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 1: nice veteran like you, are.

2080
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 3: Man i'm the BIGGEST U d fan, Man AND i

2081
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 3: know we all got some AMAZING ud, stories BUT i

2082
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 3: GOT i love that, dude. Man AND i always tell

2083
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 3: like people today that MORE nba teams needed you donnas

2084
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 3: has them because they are not available, anymore or teams

2085
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 3: don't want to have veterans. AROUND i don't, know Like

2086
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 3: i'm not in those locker, rooms but THE U d

2087
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 3: on what he does for the franchise and that, team

2088
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:26,680
Speaker 3: he keeps them, together and the respect that they have for,

2089
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 3: him which is he's earned that respect because of what

2090
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 3: he's done in the league as a. Player three time

2091
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:37,639
Speaker 3: champion Mister. Miami you know he can be the mayor

2092
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 3: Of miami if he really wants. To when comes the,

2093
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 3: organization you, Know mickey And madeline they LOVE U. D Coach.

2094
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 3: ROWLES i still call Him Coach rowles and spoke they

2095
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 3: know about like what the guy has sacrificed throughout his

2096
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 3: career and, yeah the ORGANIZATION i have gave back to.

2097
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 3: Him but they know THAT. U D is all a

2098
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 3: be getting. Person. Man he got the biggest heart. Ever oh,

2099
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 3: man let me tell you a QUICK U.

2100
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 2: D Story man.

2101
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 3: Ever, WOW i can get choked up talking about this.

2102
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 3: ONE i was an assistant on the staff and jud

2103
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 3: has a routine and he's always gonna call, me you,

2104
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 3: know whenever he's ready to get his game routine on

2105
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 3: or even in, practice And i'm gonna rebound for. Him

2106
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:23,600
Speaker 3: i'm Says, Spreen what the hell he wants me to,

2107
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,640
Speaker 3: Do i'm gonna do. It he had a routine and

2108
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 3: he always was one of the last GUYS i work.

2109
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:32,600
Speaker 3: Out but before he come out on the, court he

2110
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 3: would have his gear on and he'll Have starbucks drink

2111
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:42,799
Speaker 3: ready for. Me he'll bring me My starbucks drink from

2112
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 3: one of His starbucks Bro, no, no, no but listen

2113
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 3: to me on this. One this man Owns starbucks and

2114
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 3: he have his own drink that he put in his.

2115
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 3: Locker but he comes out on the court and he

2116
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 3: Knows i'm out there waiting on him to train him

2117
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 3: to getting ready for the, game warmed, up, Whatever but

2118
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 3: he have a drink in his hand bringing it to,

2119
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 3: me which he did not have to do, that AND

2120
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 3: i never, asked but it's the heart that the man.

2121
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 3: Has so if you did call me or need, anything

2122
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 3: or just even be somewhere or need some money, whatever

2123
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 3: he need your, Money i'm going to pick up the,

2124
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 3: phone you, know and be there for. Him not just

2125
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 3: because of that, drink but just because of the. Man

2126
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Speaker 3: he's an amazing, person, dad family, man and he's the ultimate

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Speaker 3: teammate that those young guys need to appreciate because when he, gone,

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Speaker 3: boy it's gonna be a big void within.

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Speaker 4: That AND i take it a step further BECAUSE i

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Speaker 4: that he.

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Speaker 2: Did and whatever you, need he gonna send somebody to

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Speaker 4: You and it don't matter, food whatever it, is he

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Speaker 4: I'm like for, real one of the most solid individuals

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Speaker 4: you ever will come.

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Speaker 2: Across they're really a real solid good.

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Speaker 3: Dude that's your. Person, man all.

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Speaker 2: Right, man that's a. Rap.

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Speaker 4: Man it's been too. Dope oh G we appreciate you

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Speaker 4: pulling up on. Us, man you already know how we

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Speaker 4: feel about.

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Speaker 2: You this was. Dope you appreciate more man any time for. Y'all.

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Speaker 2: BROTHER i love y'all, man young, Brother, yes love is.

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