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Speaker 1: Football Night in America. Check in with the Saints as well.

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Speaker 1: Lakers had an unbelievable weekend and free agency. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about some of the moves that were made and weren't

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Speaker 1: made with Chris Mannox a little bit later on. The

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Speaker 1: big question coming into this weekend was is Taysom Hill

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Speaker 1: real quarterback? Saints head coach Sean Payton clearly thinks he is.

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Speaker 1: He started Hill in place of the injured Drew Brees,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not sure what the answer was

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Speaker 1: going to be. I think we got our answer. Hill

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Speaker 1: did some things pretty well and wisely chose to throw

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Speaker 1: but I don't think the Saints care how they want.

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Speaker 1: It's just that they did win. And we always think

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Speaker 1: about the Saints as this high octane offense and it's not.

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Speaker 1: This was when Drew Brees is at his peak. It's

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Speaker 1: a high octane offensive team. The truth is that team

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Speaker 1: is long gone. They need help from a defensive line,

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Speaker 1: where you saw that yesterday against Atlanta did a nice job.

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Speaker 1: The future of Hill at quarterback is still uncertain, but

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Speaker 1: it might not matter. It's one week and the Saints

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Speaker 1: have to feel that Taysom Hill got off to a

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Speaker 1: great start holding down the Ford until Drew Brees can

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Speaker 1: get healthy and return to lead the Saints. Also, you're

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what you have with Taysom Hill.

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Speaker 1: That was surprising at least when I heard that from

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton. He wanted to see what he has in

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. I'm assuming you know what you have in

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Speaker 1: know don't know. I still don't know what they have.

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Speaker 1: I think he had a really good game. He was dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta was a little bit out of swords trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out what was going on. He got confidence as

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Speaker 1: he moved along there felt like the offense became a

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Speaker 1: little bit more his. But I still don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's every week quarterback. I don't know if he's a

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Speaker 1: then Taysom Hill go back to doing whatever Taysom Hill does.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how many ribs do you have, because

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Speaker 1: keep in mind when we saw this sack on Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees and I went, okay, two broken ribs. First it

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Speaker 1: was a contusion, then it became two broken ribs. Then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's a collapse long. Then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's a few more broken ribs. Then

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Speaker 1: it's eleven broken ribs. There, I think we have twenty four.

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Speaker 1: So he had almost half his ribs broken on that play,

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Speaker 1: which I don't believe is possible. But he's out for

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Speaker 1: a little while with the eleven broken ribs, yes, right,

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Speaker 1: you have twelve pairs of ribs making it twenty fourth total.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes, you don't appreciate that, MD, you could

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Speaker 1: game plan, not Taysom Hill, because if you're going to

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Speaker 1: And said of Jamis Winston, I thought Jamis Winston could

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Speaker 1: hurt last year. Sean Payton probably wasn't comfortable with what

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Speaker 1: whatever his game plan is, Sean Payton's forgot more football

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Speaker 1: the season. The Steelers are ten and oh, and you know,

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Speaker 1: But you start to look at, Okay, who is really

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Speaker 1: there with wins and losses. Back to Joe Burrow. Every

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Speaker 1: time you draft a quarterback like this, I always say,

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Speaker 1: going to expose Joe Burrow, and the Bengals exposed Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow this year two hits. It's not a question of if,

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Speaker 1: expose Joe Burrow to the number of quarterback hits. Here's

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Speaker 1: You know, he did not have a sack in the

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Speaker 1: but no need to apologize. Burrow four hundred and four

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Speaker 1: sacked over fifty times this year. Yes, Clevin, isn't this

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Speaker 1: no matter where you go. You know, beat the team's terrible,

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Speaker 1: like next year the Jags or the Jets. Well, the

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Speaker 1: Jets got a great tackle. I know their offensive line

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Speaker 1: you're taking Trevor Lawrence, you better have a good offensive line.

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Speaker 1: a hit that the NFL is trying to get out

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Taysom Hill. Did you get the sense

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Speaker 1: and doing that type of stuff, and then his scrambling ability.

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Speaker 1: So it might not look like Drew Brees or anything

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Speaker 1: like that, but yeah, I think his skill set and

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Speaker 1: the way he throws the football, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: his mental demeanor lends him to being a potential starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback and a good one at that. My only curiosity

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Speaker 1: with this was the Sean Payton, this great offensive minded

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Speaker 1: head coach, saying I need to see what I have

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Speaker 1: in Chasom Hill. Yeah, you had to wait to put

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Speaker 1: him in a real game as a starting quarterback to

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Speaker 1: see what you had with a thirty year old that

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Speaker 1: That was the only thing that was surprising about that decision.

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Speaker 1: That's where I wasn't sure if he would actually pull

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Speaker 1: the trigger and make that move to just go, man,

438
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Speaker 1: we're in the thickest things here. We could be the

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Speaker 1: number one seed in the NFC. I don't think number

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Speaker 1: one seed benefits any team more than the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 1: And then being at home in that dome, Drew brees

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Speaker 1: inside all of those things. So that's where I wasn't

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Speaker 1: sure either, Dan, But you know, obviously he felt like

444
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Speaker 1: at least he was mentally ready for the challenge to

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Speaker 1: a degree to step up and understanding the offense and

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Speaker 1: doing all of that. And I think that in a

447
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Speaker 1: lot of ways, I'd bet you Sean Payton liked the

448
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Speaker 1: challenge of let me see how I can diversify my offense,

449
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Speaker 1: what other elements can I add here? And really, in

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Speaker 1: the perfect world, you'd hopefully, hopefully, you know, towards the

451
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Speaker 1: playoffs end of the year, they could almost merge both

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Speaker 1: offenses together to get a little of the best out

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Speaker 1: of both worlds and make Taysom Hill a legitimate part

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Speaker 1: of the offense because he's a pretty skilled guy. I know,

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Speaker 1: we're looking at the end result with Joe Burrow neath

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Speaker 1: was what over four hundred attempts they were always behind.

457
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Speaker 1: He was on pace to have at least, you know,

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Speaker 1: be sacked fifty times. Was the Bengals approach here responsible

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Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow a rookie throwing the ball that many

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Speaker 1: times behind an offensive line that was sort of makeshift. Well,

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Speaker 1: I had argued that there was weeks where I really

462
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Speaker 1: talked about on Pro Football Talk with Florio and things

463
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Speaker 1: like that, that they better be careful, that they were

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Speaker 1: flirting with danger, and really their number one object, you know,

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Speaker 1: objective for the year would be, yeah, get Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: better and comfortable, but don't get him hurt. That was

467
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Speaker 1: they were almost going hand at hand, and man, he

468
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Speaker 1: went through a year of I mean really towing the

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Speaker 1: line of like you said, big shots, I mean crazy

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Speaker 1: big shots, not just like, oh he got beat up,

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Speaker 1: but like a few weeks where we're going, oh, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, like is he gonna get up? I mean,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of that, and to me, that

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Speaker 1: did bother me. I know, they're trying to win a

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Speaker 1: football game, but I do think with where they at

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Speaker 1: in their franchise and the fact that he is their franchise, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there should have been a little bit more emphasis on

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Speaker 1: let's protect him. Yeah, we might look a little bit uglier,

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Speaker 1: but we're at least going to be healthy going into

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one with a really damn good quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: thought that the Dolphins Brian Flores just said, I can't

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Speaker 1: leave two out there. He was sacked six times. The

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Speaker 1: last one was looked like he landed a little awkwardly.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, lower leg. You know, it felt

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Speaker 1: like he was struggling a little bit. But that might

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Speaker 1: have been just self preservation to take him out and

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Speaker 1: bringing in Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah, I think so, you know

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Speaker 1: it was it was Vic Fangio's a good defensive mind.

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Speaker 1: It did look like you know, and again I'll be

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Speaker 1: tempted to watch the film and really get the answers,

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Speaker 1: but you know, yes, under pressure in the pocket, but

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Speaker 1: also a lot of plays where I think you saw

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Speaker 1: it the same where where he's in the pocket it's

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Speaker 1: pretty good and he doesn't want to throw nobody's open.

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Speaker 1: He's not sure what he's looking at, whatever that reason

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Speaker 1: may be. Obviously, the offense wasn't cooking all cylinders. And

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Speaker 1: this is where you know, we still have to see

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Speaker 1: more of Tua. This was the first game where it

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Speaker 1: was kind of like, hey, the special teams, the defense,

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Speaker 1: they're they're not dominating today. You're gonna have to make

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Speaker 1: some plays and the bootlegs and just the one on

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Speaker 1: one fade balls aren't going to be there. And you know,

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Speaker 1: now we'll see as we go board if Tua can

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Speaker 1: take that next, you know, step up in his level

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Speaker 1: of development and say, hey, when the team's not doing good,

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Speaker 1: don't worry, guys, get on my left shoulder and I'll

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Speaker 1: throw the ball around the lot and make things happen.

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Speaker 1: Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host on Peacock

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Speaker 1: You had a top ten list? Was that last week?

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Speaker 1: And Ben Roethlisberger was not on your top ten quarterback list? Right? Yeah? Feedback?

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Speaker 1: Did you did you hear from Steeler fans? Well? Yeah

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Speaker 1: I did. I heard a lot from the Steeler fans.

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Speaker 1: I had to like stop looking at my social media.

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Speaker 1: I had people from Pittsburgh calling me, you know, as

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Speaker 1: far as the radio stations wanting to get me on there.

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Speaker 1: It had Big Ben's playing awesome, There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of damn good quarterbacks in football right now.

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Speaker 1: I would argue there's not a quarter problem. You've heard

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Speaker 1: me said this before. There's an offensive coordinator problem, there's

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Speaker 1: not a quarterback problem. Big Ben is amazing. But I

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Speaker 1: just think the thing I have Dan. Where I just

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Speaker 1: left him out right is he's not a really good team.

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Speaker 1: We know he's got great weapons, and they got a

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Speaker 1: defense that's unbelievable. You know a lot of these other

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks I got in the top ten. The game is

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Speaker 1: dictated by the quarterback. Their team is built around that

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Speaker 1: what he can do. They apply pressures, a pressure on

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Speaker 1: team through the quarterback with Pittsburgh, just like you saw yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the end result looked good, but hey, there's been some

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Speaker 1: underwhelming performances. He has the defense to sit there and

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Speaker 1: create plays and he can take his time. Oh wait,

532
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Speaker 1: so it looks ugly, and then they get a feel

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Speaker 1: in the third quarter of what you're doing, and he

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Speaker 1: hit some big plays and all that. It's amazing. I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to disrespect him. I have a ton of

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Speaker 1: respect for him, but no, I don't think he's one

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Speaker 1: of the ten best in the game right now. But

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Speaker 1: I think he's in the top five MVP though, because

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Speaker 1: I looked at the Steelers and I said, if Ben

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Speaker 1: is healthy, they're most dangerous, intriguing team going into this season.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't know, and still don't know, if Ben

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Speaker 1: can stay healthy the entire year. But everything else is

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Speaker 1: there for them to be a legitimate super Bowl contender,

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Speaker 1: which is it sounds strange he's not in your top ten,

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Speaker 1: but he might be in your top five MVP. Well yeah,

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Speaker 1: well this is this is the world we're in. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the MVP is it's like the highs. Who's the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback on the best team, and that's what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: give it to And that's all it comes down to.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's I understand that talk. He's doing a

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Speaker 1: great job of managing football games. He hasn't made a

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Speaker 1: lot of mistakes. I mean, he's really doing unbelievable things,

553
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Speaker 1: and his ability to throw the ball down the field

554
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Speaker 1: is still special. But when I guess what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: to Dan, some of the guys they got in the

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Speaker 1: top ten, they have far less help around them. They're

557
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Speaker 1: capable of making a lot more happen on their own

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Speaker 1: off schedule doing things like that, and that's where I

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Speaker 1: don't look at him as being top tier anymore. And

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Speaker 1: trust me, I'm a huge big Ben fan. I think

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Speaker 1: he is one of those guys that's kind of under

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Speaker 1: the radar. In the conversation for one of the ten

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Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks of all time. I think he's that good.

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Speaker 1: But man, some of those guys I got in my

565
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Speaker 1: top ten list, they are special, special players. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: you call him underrated, but you underrate him, well, it's

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Speaker 1: one year. I'm talking about. He's been playing since dinosaurs.

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Speaker 1: We're walking the earth. Okay, so this is this is

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Speaker 1: one year, and it's it's it's a it's a. It

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Speaker 1: is weird with the fact that, yes, a ten and

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Speaker 1: old football team and there is no true standout MVP candidate.

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Speaker 1: But I think that speaks to the amount of studs

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Speaker 1: they have on their football team in Pittsburgh there too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, whether it's the two safeties yesterday, the pass

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Speaker 1: rushers to it, Heyward, I mean, you know the receivers

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Speaker 1: they got right now. There's there's a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: that are making plays to help that football team win games.

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Speaker 1: And I know the quarterback gets a lot of that credit,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to take anything away from him,

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Speaker 1: but but yeah, I just don't look them that way. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I did concern should we be about the Ravens. I

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Speaker 1: think there's legitimate concern. I think you're seeing without Klais

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Speaker 1: Campbell and then like a no Brandon Williams last the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks. They get pushed around a little bit

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Speaker 1: in the run game. We're not used to seeing their

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Speaker 1: defense get physically moved around that way. And then the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing, you know, again, we've talked the league is

588
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Speaker 1: caught up to the Lamar Jackson run scheme. Their offensive

589
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: line isn't totally one hundred percent healthy, and now we've

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Speaker 1: hit to the point of okay, so what's next, Baltimore?

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Speaker 1: Who else? There's got to be something else to the offense.

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Speaker 1: It can't just be run game and Mark Andrews in

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Speaker 1: the pass game. That's all there is to it. There's

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Speaker 1: no wide receiver involvement, there's no really creative pass schemes.

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Speaker 1: There's no other element of the offense to look at

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Speaker 1: right now to go wait. As a defense, I have

597
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Speaker 1: to worry about this guy or this thing they do,

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Speaker 1: and that's where I worry about them. Dan mclovin brings

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Speaker 1: up the Eagles and Carson Wentz every week. It's a topic.

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Speaker 1: It's a nation no topic. It's we got to solve this.

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Speaker 1: It's America's nightmare, and we got to find out what's

602
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Speaker 1: wrong with Carson Wentz in the Eagles. Should they just

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Speaker 1: go to Jalen Hurts. I don't think Jalen from all accounts,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Jalen Hurts is ready yet. I

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Speaker 1: think they're at the point here where I would dabble

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Speaker 1: with more of a Jalen Hurts wrinkle in the offense

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Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. I think that's where i'd probably

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Speaker 1: go more than anything. It is not a great offense,

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Speaker 1: it's not great weapons, but they do need some other element.

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Speaker 1: And Carson Wentz I've been a defender of them. It's

611
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Speaker 1: hard to defend it. I mean, it's it's crappy, it's careless,

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Speaker 1: it's horrible pocket awareness. He's costing his team and they

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Speaker 1: can't make plays on offense. So maybe you bring a

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Speaker 1: Jalen hurtson and kind of like the Taysom Hill type

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Speaker 1: of fashion, where hey, we create some plays, some schimmatical advantages,

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Speaker 1: do something like that. It can't hurt because their offense

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Speaker 1: is sucky ducky every week. I'm sorry, ducky duck key, yes,

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Speaker 1: duny technical term, yes, game more important tonight for the

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Speaker 1: Rams for the Buccaneers, I would say the Buccaneers, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I'm that's a tough one. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure it's so tough for both of them. Wow. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'd probably say the Buccaneers though, because they're still kind

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Speaker 1: of a work in progress. They've had the primetime failures

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Speaker 1: things like that, and uh yeah, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I wonder if I don't know if they're concrete sold

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Speaker 1: on their plan of attack yet. I hope they stayed

627
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Speaker 1: with what they we saw last week. Two tight ends

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Speaker 1: underneath the center, run the ball, Brady is awesome, awful

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Speaker 1: play action in those deep passes. If they can do that,

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Speaker 1: I think they'll win the game tonight. The Rams have

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Speaker 1: made five trips to the Eastern time zone in the

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Speaker 1: last nine games. Right, That's amazing, but doesn't see better? No,

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Speaker 1: it does not. But they're not going to make excuses.

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Speaker 1: The one thing you could say about the Rams is

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Speaker 1: they show up every week ready to compete tough. I've

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Speaker 1: McVeagh era, and that was that last year's Monday night

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Speaker 1: game against the Ball the more Ravens. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: they're always ready to go. I do think the Bucks

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Speaker 1: are a tough matchup for them, you know, with the weapons,

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Speaker 1: big offensive line, that's why I think you run the

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Speaker 1: ball a little bit. It's a smaller defense with the rams.

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Speaker 1: And then on the other side of the ball, you

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Speaker 1: would think with Shaq, Barrett and JPP they could stop

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Speaker 1: that zone speed sweep stuff. The middle linebackers they have

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Speaker 1: in Lavante, David and Devin White, they're gonna be good sideline.

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Speaker 1: The sideline, I think they match up well. I think

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Speaker 1: they win a close one. Always great to see you.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. Chris. Thanks for joining us, bun.

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Speaker 1: You're the man. Dan say hi to everybody. Be good.

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Speaker 1: It's Chris Simps from a Football Night in America and

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Speaker 1: twenty percent off your order. I was looking at running

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Speaker 1: backs who have scored at least fifty touchdowns by the

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Speaker 1: age of twenty five. And there's a pretty good list here,

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Speaker 1: far more than I thought. Todd Gurley reached fifty touchdowns

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Speaker 1: quicker than any running back in history. But keep in

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Speaker 1: mind Jim Brown, Walter Payton, they played in fewer games.

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Speaker 1: Barry Sanders is second on the list, Emmett, Maurice Jones, Drew.

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Speaker 1: Then it's Jim Brown, Clinton Portis, Zeke All, Walter Payton,

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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara did it yesterday, Edger and James Ladanian, Tomlinson,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Allen ad You're in Peterson, Marshall, Fall, Chuck Foreman,

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Speaker 1: and Trell Davis. That's a lot of running backs before

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Speaker 1: the age of twenty five where you get to fifty.

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious though, after twenty five, how man he

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Speaker 1: get to one hundred, because that list will dry up

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Speaker 1: pretty rapidly. Yes, boy, how about most running back touchdowns

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Speaker 1: scored after reaching thirty the age of thirty? Yeah? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know the name that would pop in my head,

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Speaker 1: John Riggins, because he remember he had all those touchdowns

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Speaker 1: later in his career with Washington. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he had the numbers rushing wise, what's Frank Gore got

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Speaker 1: after the age of thirty? Yes, Marcus Allen had that

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Speaker 1: little touchdown run, remember he was there. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: think you're right, Frank Gore, he's got to be the answer,

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Speaker 1: although he's not getting many this year. No. I saw

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Speaker 1: this with Mike Florio. If Colin Kaepernick's phone doesn't ring

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Speaker 1: now after the Joe Burrow injury, it never will. And

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Speaker 1: then in parentheses he says, and it won't. Yeah, when

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Speaker 1: I saw the injury, did Joe Burrows not? Like I go?

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Speaker 1: They have to take him instead of Brandon Allen or

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Speaker 1: Ryan Finley. Those are the options in Cincinnati. Cincinnati's not

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Speaker 1: doing anything going anywhere. Why are you bringing in Colin Kaepernick.

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Speaker 1: He's they're not going to reach out to him. But

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Speaker 1: Florio says, if it doesn't ring, it'll never ring. It's

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Speaker 1: not ringing. We talked about this for the last how

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Speaker 1: many years, where he's not getting a call. You know,

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Speaker 1: they'll go through the motions and then you'll have a whisper,

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Speaker 1: a rumor that somebody might be interested in it. It

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Speaker 1: ain't happening, just not. But Florio'll put that out there.

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Speaker 1: I can't see that happening. I think Cincinnati is gonna say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll throw in Ryan Finley or Brandon Allen and we'll

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Speaker 1: get a great draft pick here, Like, why do we

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Speaker 1: want to screw this up and bring in Colin Kaepernick?

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Speaker 1: And you have your quarterback there? If you bring in Kaepernick,

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Speaker 1: you're bringing him in for what six seven games? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a club. Yeah, without knowing the offense, i'd assume. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I can't. That's I don't understand them. Well, Mike's throwing

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Speaker 1: it out there, and maybe he's trolling people, but I

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Speaker 1: just can't imagine since NAI's gonna go, hey, let's bring

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Speaker 1: him in. Yeah, I'm a club. That's not really a

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Speaker 1: call you want if you're Kaepernick, Hey, you want to

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Speaker 1: come where our offensive li the rookie of the year killed? Hey,

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Speaker 1: come on in? Yeah? Uh, some phone calls in here, James,

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Speaker 1: and Ohio leads his off best and worst of the weekend. James,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for me? He being six foot

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Speaker 1: slender one ninety. I got my best as my syd

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Speaker 1: today Bearcats thinking out of wind beating eight No, yep,

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Speaker 1: and my worst mister Don Patrick is going to be

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals, and I'm gonna start off with Zack Taylor,

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Speaker 1: Jim Turner or Jim Turman and Mike Brown. It's I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just amazing that these guys are actually thoughts of

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Speaker 1: this O line could protect the franchise for the next

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Speaker 1: fifteen years. And Joe Burrow getting hurt yesterday and here

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Speaker 1: in Zach Taylor's press conference is absolutely horrible. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guy should be fired for what he says. Well, terrible,

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Speaker 1: it's embarrassing. I'm feel bad for Burrow. Yeah, it's you're

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Speaker 1: throwing four hundred times. You're averaging forty pass attempts, and look,

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Speaker 1: you know, if I look at sacks per pass attempt,

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Speaker 1: it's not that alarming. But I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: hits Joe Burrow took. It's one thing for the sacks.

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Speaker 1: It's another thing how many times you get hit, because

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Speaker 1: we don't really focus on that if you're always running

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Speaker 1: scrambling there and Joe took a huge hit in the

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Speaker 1: Eagles game. Huge hit. Yeah, I just there's only so

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Speaker 1: many of those you can take and survive. And if

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Speaker 1: you're throwing four hundred times, I mean Joe would have

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Speaker 1: thrown what five hundred and fifty passes. I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: just do the math here easily. If he was going

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Speaker 1: to average because they're always losing forty pass attempts for

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Speaker 1: the next six games, two hundred and forty, So six

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Speaker 1: hundred pass attempts for him, six hundred and forty pass attempts.

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Speaker 1: Something crazy like that. You're gonna get sacked, but how

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Speaker 1: many times are you getting hit? And the offensive line?

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Speaker 1: You know, the Colts went out and finally got some

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Speaker 1: good offensive lineman and we thought Andrew luck was now

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Speaker 1: going to prove that he's a Hall of Fame quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But the damage had been done, and I just hope

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Speaker 1: that we don't see that with Deshaun Watson. I've been

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Speaker 1: saying that with the Texans, and I've been saying that

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Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow. I don't want him expose that much.

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Speaker 1: And I know you want to win a game, but

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Speaker 1: if I'm exposing my most valuable commodity, then it doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem like, um, you know, it's a great philosophy moving

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Speaker 1: forward to do that on a weekend and week out basis. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a club playing devil's advocate like Russell Wilson never

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Speaker 1: had a line, and he kind of survived. I hid

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Speaker 1: the terrible line, you know, but they ran the ball

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Speaker 1: an awful lot the first five years, six years, Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady has never had like hidraft picks on the line,

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Speaker 1: but he gets rid of the ball so quickly that

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Speaker 1: he you know, is there something that quarterback can do?

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Speaker 1: I am trying to think of excuses here, but well,

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Speaker 1: not play for the Bengals, but other than that. All

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta High Alan, what's on your mind? Hey Dn?

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Speaker 1: How you got a best and worst? Best was in

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Speaker 1: preparation for smoking a turkey for Thanksgiving? I smoked some

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Speaker 1: spare ribs. They're so delicious. I ate so much that

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Speaker 1: my family said I looked like one of the humans

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Speaker 1: from Wally And my worst is how poorous the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Falcon's offensive line was and how many sacks they get

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Speaker 1: up to Matt Ryan, costing me my second undefeated weekend

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Speaker 1: in a road in All right, Well sorry about that,

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Speaker 1: al Man. The same defensive line won that game. The

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Speaker 1: pressure they put on Matt Ryan, and Taysom Hill did

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Speaker 1: what he needed to do. You do just enough, just

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Speaker 1: enough here, just enough there. You don't make many mistakes there.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that he did well, yes time. If

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Speaker 1: you're Drew Brees, do you eat spare ribs? If you

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Speaker 1: stay away from that? H I see what you did

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Speaker 1: with that. I don't know. I've never had I don't

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Speaker 1: think I've ever had a broken rib. I think I

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Speaker 1: think I've had a cracked rib, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's a broken rib. It is because it's like it's

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Speaker 1: a nicer way of saying broken rib. Well, I've had

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Speaker 1: a cracked bone in my foot, but they didn't call

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Speaker 1: it a broken foot. Football is big on doing that.

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Speaker 1: They call he's got a contusion, flew like symptoms there,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's they always find a nice way for it,

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Speaker 1: like concussion like symptoms. Yeah, Levin cracked rib, broken ribs,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's just having soup through a straw.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next hour, we'll check in with the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Also check in with the Lakers. Lakers had an unbelievable weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure what Michael Jordan's doing as an owner.

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Speaker 1: Not quite sure. More phone calls coming up as well

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Speaker 1: here on The Dan Patrick Show.