Speaker 1: I Am all in again.
Speaker 2: Oh that's just you.
Speaker 3: I Am all in Town meeting with Suzanne French and
Speaker 3: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 4: Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of I'm All
Speaker 4: in Town meeting with myself, Tara and Suzanne.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 1: Hello, We're gonna.
Speaker 4: Be talking about season one episode eight, Love and War
Speaker 4: and Snow, which aired on December fourteenth.
Speaker 1: Two thousand.
Speaker 4: I feel like these episodes are coming faster because I'm like,
Speaker 4: this is our first town meeting, like in the show, Yes,
Speaker 4: it's our first town meeting. But I'm like, I didn't
Speaker 4: realize it's on episode eight. Like it's just feels like
Speaker 4: we're pounding through it, right.
Speaker 2: I know, this was a pretty solid episode.
Speaker 4: I thought I kind of forget, like, I mean, we've
Speaker 4: been talking about it. But season one had such memorable
Speaker 4: episodes like this one with you know, when she goes
Speaker 4: through lorealized room and brings out the pictures and you know,
Speaker 4: and the snow and and this is where isn't.
Speaker 1: This the first ice smell snow is? Yeah, yes, this
Speaker 1: is where.
Speaker 2: We get ice smell snow. And we got it twice
Speaker 2: in this episode.
Speaker 1: Too, And that snow was a lot of paper.
Speaker 2: It was really fat chunks of snow.
Speaker 4: It was it was like I understand, like it was
Speaker 4: supposed to be like a storm, like a snow storm,
Speaker 4: but like some of the scenes, I'm like, they're really
Speaker 4: just dumping down the snow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and none of it was on actors.
Speaker 2: Right. I was just gonna say the porch scene, like
Speaker 2: the snow is coming down like crazy, but then when
Speaker 2: they step onto her porch, they're like perfectly clean and dry.
Speaker 4: She has one she has one snowflake and it's actually
Speaker 4: sewn into her beanies. Oh well, right off the bat,
Speaker 4: that clown pillow was front and center.
Speaker 2: It was right there. Yeah, and the piano too. We
Speaker 2: still have the piano in the living room.
Speaker 1: So episode eight was still a piano.
Speaker 4: But is that, like, is that the most prominent we
Speaker 4: see the clown pillow because I feel like they even
Speaker 4: it wasn't even like the top half. It was like
Speaker 4: a quarter of the pillow when she's listening to the voicemail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one angle. I think it was the
Speaker 2: episode where Dean came over to watch the movie and
Speaker 2: they were standing there talking in the living room.
Speaker 1: It was on the stairs.
Speaker 2: You could see, No, it was by the window, but
Speaker 2: you could see the entire pillow, okay, and it was
Speaker 2: like a welllit scene, so it was like it was
Speaker 2: really clear.
Speaker 4: And I was thinking maybe because she was also wearing
Speaker 4: red and the pillow is red, that it maybe it stood.
Speaker 1: Out a little bit more for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be.
Speaker 1: And it was like two minutes into the episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had one red flag on this
Speaker 2: episode as I am in my eighth year as a
Speaker 2: marching band mom, and they do not just randomly walk
Speaker 2: around town in their band uniforms.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2: Those uniforms are expensive. They can be like two hundred
Speaker 2: dollars apiece. Like they're not just walking around town in them,
Speaker 2: especially with the shako and the plume and everything not
Speaker 2: in the snow in the there's no way. Like my
Speaker 2: son he's in his college band and he's in Reno,
Speaker 2: so with snows up there, and they they take the
Speaker 2: plumes out, the feathers if they if the forecast is bad,
Speaker 2: they don't wear those in there with their uniforms because
Speaker 2: those are expensive. So like they're not going to be
Speaker 2: walking around in the snow.
Speaker 4: I actually didn't know that because I was on cheer
Speaker 4: in high school, and we used to have to wear
Speaker 4: like on game days, we wore our well, we wore
Speaker 4: our uniforms, but there was like different variations, like instead
Speaker 4: of the skirt, you can wear the pants, or like
Speaker 4: we always had jackets, so like there were different variations.
Speaker 4: But I actually didn't know that about bands. I just
Speaker 4: assumed that was accurate because on game days we would
Speaker 4: wear our uniform Yeah, we did too.
Speaker 2: I was in drill team team and we always had
Speaker 2: we wore our sweaters and skirts on game days. But
Speaker 2: the band uniforms are just for performances because got it,
Speaker 2: they're pretty expensive.
Speaker 4: I did laugh when they the teacher said, don't put
Speaker 4: your lips to your your instrument, and I was like, honestly,
Speaker 4: I didn't think about that.
Speaker 1: I know I didn't either, but don't.
Speaker 4: But don't people perform out in the cold so like
Speaker 4: that they do.
Speaker 2: I don't know. The last game. We went to my
Speaker 2: son's game over Thanksgiving break and it was it's actually
Speaker 2: started to snow at the beginning of the game. It
Speaker 2: was about thirty five degrees somewhere around there, and they
Speaker 2: still played. I don't know, maybe if it gets like
Speaker 2: really cold then it's a problem, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm a California girl. What do I know?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I mean, my main thing was in
Speaker 1: this episode was that snow.
Speaker 4: It's just yeah, the way I'll bring it up, the
Speaker 4: whole episode, I'm like, it's dumping snow and no one
Speaker 4: has any snow on them, even with the band stuff,
Speaker 4: Like they didn't get any snow on them like they're
Speaker 4: which is.
Speaker 1: I understand, it's a TV show. I know that, but
Speaker 1: it was like, give them a little more snow, I know.
Speaker 2: And I wonder, like how because I know that they
Speaker 2: have you know, the snope or whatever you want to
Speaker 2: call it, but I wonder how much of it was
Speaker 2: like added later.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean like in post production?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I don't think it was snope because of
Speaker 4: the way it was setting.
Speaker 1: Like it was actually a pile of snow. I actually
Speaker 1: think it was.
Speaker 4: I I guess we would have to ask Scott, but
Speaker 4: I think it was like paper like paper sell flakes.
Speaker 4: And then the scene on the porch where Larel talking
Speaker 4: to Max and it's just like pouring behind them. I
Speaker 4: feel like that was it was in post production. I
Speaker 4: don't think they were just pounding out snow there because
Speaker 4: it was more than like when they were walking up
Speaker 4: to the porch right right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Some scenes though, it was like really excessive, like
Speaker 2: the scene where Luke was taking them coffee. You could
Speaker 2: barely even see loop because.
Speaker 1: There was so much snow and so much I know.
Speaker 4: Another thing I had that I noticed, and I don't
Speaker 4: know if it's another episode, tell me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 4: But have we ever seen that food stand with those
Speaker 4: what was it called the Fahita Burgers?
Speaker 2: Oh? The yeah, the I forget what they called it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't it was something burger, Yeah, something burger, and
Speaker 2: that's over Burger, Fiesta Burger. That was. I think we
Speaker 2: saw that one other time.
Speaker 1: I just have never seen that stand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's over by the church. I remember Lorelei and
Speaker 2: Rory going there before. I think, I think on now,
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is what it was meant
Speaker 2: to be, but it's it's you know where that Casey's
Speaker 2: bar is, that's at the at the back of the
Speaker 2: lot by the church. I think it's like a walk
Speaker 2: up window there. I don't know that in the episode
Speaker 2: that's what it was meant to be, but that's where
Speaker 2: it physically is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw that with the way they walk after
Speaker 4: I kind of noticed it was on that end, But
Speaker 4: I guess I was just like, on a snow day,
Speaker 4: you're going to use the You're gonna use the wall
Speaker 4: like I want to go in somewhere like it's pouring snow,
Speaker 4: You're gonna use the walk.
Speaker 2: Up unless everything else was supposed to be closed because
Speaker 2: it was so stormy. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess I would just assume you don't want to
Speaker 4: go inside a picture, I know, which.
Speaker 2: You would think. I know, But they're walking all over
Speaker 2: town and snow.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That was only my there were those were my
Speaker 4: only two reel the.
Speaker 1: I didn't really have anything else this episode.
Speaker 4: I was like trying to look, I'm now watching these
Speaker 4: episodes being like a intense Avid. I'm like pausing and
Speaker 4: rewinding and I'm like, nope, that's just a normal cup
Speaker 4: in the background.
Speaker 1: No Powerpuff Girl.
Speaker 2: A couple things. One is that Lane is wearing the
Speaker 2: same green sweater that Rory wore in episode four, and
Speaker 2: at first I thought, oh, that's funny they used the
Speaker 2: same sweater twice, but then I realized that that actually
Speaker 2: makes sense with the story because.
Speaker 1: She's staying at Rory's right.
Speaker 2: Because she ran away from band practice in the band
Speaker 2: uniform and so she went to Rory's house and put
Speaker 2: Rory's clothes on, Like it makes total sense because she
Speaker 2: wasn't Yeah, you had to get out of the band uniform,
Speaker 2: and that's true, she wasn't at home, so she put
Speaker 2: her best friend's sweater on. So I'm like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: kind of sweet. I love that.
Speaker 4: Actually, the more I think about it, I'm like, missus
Speaker 4: Kim just like let her go and stay there.
Speaker 2: That was my other question. How did missus Kim not
Speaker 2: question where she was in this snowstorm? Like wouldn't you
Speaker 2: be worried about where your kid was?
Speaker 4: And also, well they definitely didn't tell missus Cam that
Speaker 4: Maximadina was staying there.
Speaker 1: But when I was.
Speaker 4: Actually at like hours after I watched the episode, I
Speaker 4: was like, isn't it weird if you're at your best
Speaker 4: friend's house staying with her mom and her and your
Speaker 4: best friend's teacher is on the couch.
Speaker 1: Like isn't that a weird scenario?
Speaker 2: That is a weird scenario.
Speaker 3: Yes, Like I'd feel really young, I'd like walk home.
Speaker 3: I'd be like, yeah, I probably would have to. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't have been super comfortable with that. And if I
Speaker 3: was Laura, I would have made Max leave. I mean,
Speaker 3: I know, it's like a giant snowstorm or whatever, but
Speaker 3: like maybe he could stay at Babat's house or like
Speaker 3: she could find someplace for him to stay.
Speaker 2: But I thought that was a little weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I understand being safe and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was just like everyone was so okay with it.
Speaker 4: I was more happy that she did not continue what
Speaker 4: then I had plans with Lane.
Speaker 2: Down the hall. Yeah, but it was good that they
Speaker 2: threw some cold water on that for sure.
Speaker 4: Well, because at first you're kind of wondering, right, You're like,
Speaker 4: he's he will Also, why was he so into it?
Speaker 4: Like Elayne's in the other room and she had to
Speaker 4: put a pause to it right exactly.
Speaker 2: He's like just ready to pick up where they left off.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that was again being able doesn't have
Speaker 2: a lot of boundaries. So one other thing, when they
Speaker 2: were at Richard and Emily's house, I love that whole
Speaker 2: thing with Richard and Emily and the frozen pizza and
Speaker 2: Emily like got to see kind of how Rory and
Speaker 2: Laurela lived and realized, Okay, frozen pizza is not so
Speaker 2: bad if you put a nig on it. But I
Speaker 2: I question. I feel like she was too young Emily
Speaker 2: to have a thing for Errol Flynn because Errol Flynn
Speaker 2: was from like the thirties and forties and Emily would
Speaker 2: have been born probably early or mid forties. I just
Speaker 2: feel like she would have been too young to have
Speaker 2: a crush on Eryl Flynn.
Speaker 4: I thought that was that one went right over my
Speaker 4: head because I don't know who erl who that is.
Speaker 2: Still just thought that was kind of a weird red
Speaker 2: flag because he like, he is like old old movies,
Speaker 2: not like Emily Era, right, I don't know.
Speaker 4: There was a really funny line at their house when
Speaker 4: Richards just reading like his magazine and he's like, Rory,
Speaker 4: are you malnourished anyway, and she's like no, I'm good.
Speaker 4: Like it was just so it was such a funny
Speaker 4: beat that I was like, ah, that was not only
Speaker 4: written well, but like executed so flawlessly, and it was
Speaker 4: just so funny and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great. My favorite line in this was
Speaker 2: at the very beginning of the episode, where they were
Speaker 2: at the town meeting and Taylor referred to the lava
Speaker 2: lamp as drug paraphernalia.
Speaker 4: Honestly, like, Oh, the other thing about the town meeting,
Speaker 4: I was like, I love how they had hot dogs,
Speaker 4: Like they just like they went to the movie theater
Speaker 4: and picked up like you know when those sleeves are
Speaker 4: like a seven to eleven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, Luke's doesn't have hot dogs. Where'd they
Speaker 1: get the hot dogs from?
Speaker 2: It was like they'd been to the circus or something.
Speaker 4: They were like a gas station. Yeah, Like it was
Speaker 4: just very funny. I was like the choice of food
Speaker 4: and it was a great sorry to go back, but
Speaker 4: it was a great introduction to the chaos of the
Speaker 4: town meetings because you felt like.
Speaker 1: You like I had. I had.
Speaker 4: It took me a second to realize that was the
Speaker 4: first one, because you're just thrown into it and you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is normal.
Speaker 1: They do this once a week, right, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very just like this is just a
Speaker 2: normal situation for them. Like you said, you were just
Speaker 2: kind of thrown into it. I did have one fun
Speaker 2: little thing near the end of the episode. You can
Speaker 2: see I guess it's a crew member somebody in the
Speaker 2: background of a scene like walking, and it's well, we'll
Speaker 2: try to grab a screenshot, although you actually need to
Speaker 2: kind of watch the episode and to see him moving.
Speaker 2: But it's when Rory comes home in the morning and
Speaker 2: she comes up on the front porch and Laurel I
Speaker 2: opens the door to tell Rory that Max is are there,
Speaker 2: and when when she first opens the door and then
Speaker 2: it cuts to Rory, there's a person standing on the
Speaker 2: other side of loralized jeep, like at the back of
Speaker 2: the scene, and they they it's like they suddenly realized
Speaker 2: they were on camera, because then they duck behind the bushes.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how funny.
Speaker 2: So well, we'll try to grab a screenshot of it.
Speaker 1: That is so funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that made me remember because I told you I
Speaker 4: was looking watching this episode like a hawk looking for something.
Speaker 4: There's something I saw, and I wasn't gonna mention it
Speaker 4: because I was like, I'm probably wrong. I think it's
Speaker 4: the scene.
Speaker 1: I have to go back.
Speaker 4: I think it's lane walking. But they're in the town
Speaker 4: and there's a car that passes by in the back
Speaker 4: and it looks like a surfboard is attached to the
Speaker 4: top of the car. I swear, and I couldn't tell it.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was like a door or a surfboard, but
Speaker 4: it's completely flat, so it made me think it was
Speaker 4: a surfboard. But it's snowing out, which makes it even better.
Speaker 2: And it's Connecticut. Where are you even a surf in Connecticut?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I could be total, but it's I'll send
Speaker 1: you screens.
Speaker 4: I'll grab it because I I was gonna mention it
Speaker 4: and that I'm like, I think I'm making things up
Speaker 4: in my head now, But now the more I think
Speaker 4: about it, I'm like, I don't know if if they're
Speaker 4: if there are mistakes, like someone just behind Rory, then
Speaker 4: the surfboard could be could be true?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it very well could be. It could have just
Speaker 2: been one of those fun little, you know, Southern California things.
Speaker 4: It's funny to me because like they have to do
Speaker 4: those takes like ten times, was that the best take?
Speaker 1: With someone in the back right?
Speaker 2: Like did they not notice at the time, Like don't
Speaker 2: they clearer this? I don't know how did that person
Speaker 2: get back there?
Speaker 1: Well, then again, it's kind of the shot clear.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like the Game of Thrones. I didn't
Speaker 4: ever watched it with the Starbucks cup thing, Like it's
Speaker 4: one of those things where you kind of sit back
Speaker 4: and you're like, a hundred people had to clear this,
Speaker 4: and it got cleared. But you know, as someone who
Speaker 4: I work on a lot podcasts on our team, like,
Speaker 4: there are things that get just you're so in like
Speaker 4: go mode and you're meeting your deadlines and you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: we all collectively miss this and it happens. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: oh my god, Jackie, Okay, Jackie just said there is
Speaker 4: a surf board, so it wasn't wrong.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Can't believe I missed that. I'm gonna have to go
Speaker 2: back out.
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of myself.
Speaker 2: I got it. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. My point being was how do you
Speaker 1: miss stuff like that right exactly?
Speaker 2: Especially something major like that, because if you work on
Speaker 2: a set, you know, don't be in front of the
Speaker 2: camera when you're not supposed to be in front of
Speaker 2: the camera. It's not like I mean, it's presumably a
Speaker 2: close set and it was often the bushes. It's not
Speaker 2: like somewhere that you know, they were leading a tour
Speaker 2: and you got a tourist in there by accident.
Speaker 4: Like and clearly like they knew they were in the
Speaker 4: shot if they ducked right.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, like, I don't know, but yeah, maybe they
Speaker 2: maybe they didn't see that person and that was the
Speaker 2: only shot they had and or the only take they
Speaker 2: had and they had to go with it. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but a.
Speaker 4: Boom mic makes a little bit more sense because I
Speaker 4: saw someone comments on our Instagram about like the way
Speaker 4: we used to watch screen because now we're on a
Speaker 4: completely flat screen, and like the way we used to
Speaker 4: watch back on monitors and TVs, like you know, it
Speaker 4: was a thicker, like I think it would cut some
Speaker 4: of the actual film, right, So that makes sense, and
Speaker 4: maybe the way they watch back on screens back then
Speaker 4: it cut it out just like a smidge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was more square and less.
Speaker 4: I think that, Like, I think a boom mic makes
Speaker 4: a little more sense, or like something being left behind
Speaker 4: the scene, like a Starbucks cup makes more sense to
Speaker 4: me than a whole human Yes, behind the.
Speaker 2: Right in the center of the screen. It's not even
Speaker 2: like I mean that was visible you know on television.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was that scene.
Speaker 4: I thought it was so weird that they walk in
Speaker 4: and just stare at Max sleeping and talk right above
Speaker 4: his head.
Speaker 1: I know, like it was such a girl.
Speaker 2: He didn't wake up like I would have been like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, did you notice?
Speaker 1: I think it's in the very It was right after.
Speaker 4: The voicemail, Rory says something I don't remember what she said,
Speaker 4: but something about like oh, I'll keep it for like
Speaker 4: memories or for like my book or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I wrote that down. Let me scroll up in
Speaker 2: my notes here. I wrote it down. She says, it's
Speaker 2: all fodder for the tell.
Speaker 1: All, the tell all.
Speaker 4: That's what yes, which obviously in that point, like Amy Sherman,
Speaker 4: Palladino did not think she'd be doing the movies and
Speaker 4: right talking about you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But it was just funny. It was just funny to
Speaker 1: go back and be like whoa like.
Speaker 2: Right, well, and like we talked about when we did
Speaker 2: those recaps, I forget which episode it was. But it's
Speaker 2: a fan theory that this the original series is Rory's book,
Speaker 2: like that seventh series or so and seasons was Rory's book,
Speaker 2: And so people point to that line as almost like
Speaker 2: a foreshadowing kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Well, is it completely a fan theory or has Amy
Speaker 1: alluded to it at all.
Speaker 2: There was an interview where with Amy and the interviewer
Speaker 2: asked her what's in Rory's book, and she says she
Speaker 2: didn't know, So I don't think it was intentional. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think that's a fun theory and I kind of
Speaker 2: buy into it a little bit myself, But it wasn't
Speaker 2: like the writers intended.
Speaker 4: If I were Amy, I'd be like, make up whatever
Speaker 4: theory you want, and I'll say it's you're right, you know,
Speaker 4: like actually it probably gives her like more of a night.
Speaker 4: Fans are so smart, like especially Gilmore girls fans, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they're so smart and creative, like the way they think
Speaker 4: of all these things, and the way they notice things
Speaker 4: that sometimes you and I don't even like. I'll see
Speaker 4: comments on Instagram, I'm like, how did.
Speaker 1: You see that?
Speaker 4: Or or they refer back to episodes like you. I mean,
Speaker 4: you're a great example of it. I'm just like, brain
Speaker 4: capacity that I don't have is amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it was a good episode. There were
Speaker 2: a couple little like visual uh where it didn't match up,
Speaker 2: Like the coffee cup at the end, Laura I Rory
Speaker 2: pours a cup of coffee in its blue cup and
Speaker 2: then Lorelai takes that cup out in the living room,
Speaker 2: but then when they're drinking it, it's yellow, just kind
Speaker 2: of like a little silly shit.
Speaker 4: She also pulls the cup out of the cabinet and
Speaker 4: didn't pour anything into it.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, she she I noticed that she took an
Speaker 2: empty cup and then took Rory's presumably full cup, which
Speaker 2: I think I don't think she poured it into it.
Speaker 2: But and then but then that wasn't the cup that
Speaker 2: they were drinking when they were in the living room.
Speaker 1: So I know.
Speaker 4: We obviously read Kelly Bishop's book and she there's a
Speaker 4: part where she mentions that, like fevus much different than
Speaker 4: theater because you have to redo scenes over and over again,
Speaker 4: and like it made me with talking about this right now,
Speaker 4: it made me think, like, yeah, if you're doing that
Speaker 4: scene fifteen times, I'm not going to remember what cup
Speaker 4: I placed where, you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 4: have to do exactly the same and keep the same
Speaker 4: energy up, so right right, yeah, but I know, by
Speaker 4: the way, the next episode again I can't believe it's
Speaker 4: coming up, is Rory's dance.
Speaker 2: This is a classic. I love this episode.
Speaker 4: I feel like season I think I may have to
Speaker 4: say season one might be the best season.
Speaker 2: There's so much good stuff in season one.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting.
Speaker 4: I'm waiting for Yeah, I'm waiting for like a lull
Speaker 4: in the my my watching and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Nope, they're just bangers.
Speaker 4: But anyway, well, thank you guys for listening, and next
Speaker 4: week we'll be talking about season one, episode nine, Rory's
Speaker 4: dance meeting a journey dot.
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