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Speaker 1: There's the adage the NFL never sleeps. It's a twelve

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Speaker 1: Scouts for the Kansas City Chiefs with General Manager Bredveach

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Speaker 1: We will explore that in this episode of Defending the Kingdom,

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Speaker 1: and we're calling it staffing the Outposts. And of course

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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I metch Holt's Voice of the Chiefs along

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Speaker 1: with senior team reporter Matt McMullen, and we're really excited

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Speaker 1: to bring you this episode because we're gonna take you

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Speaker 1: and that is in the world of the Scouts of

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. But before we do that, we

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Speaker 1: we'll go around the world as well. But a couple

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Speaker 1: of signings that we have to deal with and let's

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Speaker 1: start with I mean, if you're from Wales and a

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Speaker 1: you'll be really excited be a signed a rugby player.

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Speaker 1: I could ask about this almost every day, what's going

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Speaker 1: on with Lewis Reese Zammitt. So here we are, We've

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Speaker 3: I've been spending hours watching rugby trying to figure it out,

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Speaker 3: kind of the amazing part of European athletics and professional

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Speaker 3: International player Pathway Program. Basically, it's a really cool thing.

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Speaker 3: So there have been some guys that have really become

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Speaker 3: trying to continue that tradition. He has really good speed.

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Speaker 1: You and I are, and I love the International Gateway

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Speaker 1: awesome to see it, and we're going to see more

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Speaker 1: Him thirty one years old, he was the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But during his five years he was there redshirting a year,

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Speaker 5: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: about the last couple drafts, right, think about getting players

437
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Speaker 3: like George Carloftis and Trent McDuffie, these players that help

438
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Speaker 3: us win championships as they have a checko in the

439
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Speaker 3: seventh round, Jalen Watson, all these guys. The process of

440
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Speaker 3: finding those players does not begin in February when the

441
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Speaker 3: combine occurs, or it doesn't even begin when the college

442
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Speaker 3: season begins in August or September. It starts immediately after

443
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Speaker 3: the draft ends. They're figuring out, Okay, who are the

444
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Speaker 3: guys we want to watch, and they clearly do a

445
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Speaker 3: very very thorough job. And it begins right away.

446
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Speaker 1: Coach Reid has a saying, and someone who grew up

447
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Speaker 1: on a farm, as I did, kind of identify with this,

448
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Speaker 1: but he goes, a farmer's work is never done. You

449
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Speaker 1: take a breath, I know, grown up, we'd take a

450
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Speaker 1: breath after harvest, right, But you're just starting once again.

451
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Speaker 1: You're harvesting, you're planning, you're fertilizing, You're doing it in

452
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Speaker 1: this cycle. That's the way they the Scouts are. I

453
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Speaker 1: remember after the Super Bowl fifty seven championship, Bret Veach

454
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Speaker 1: sent me like a three second video that I played

455
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Speaker 1: to start the kickoff luncheon. Yeah, last year, because we're

456
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Speaker 1: all recovering, or you know, we just had this great parade.

457
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Speaker 1: The next morning, the Scouts were meeting. They were meeting.

458
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Speaker 1: He says, here's how we're celebrating. Right, they took a breath.

459
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Speaker 1: They took a breath with the celebration. The next day

460
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Speaker 1: they're grinding crazy.

461
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Speaker 4: And you think about the Chiefs.

462
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Speaker 1: Now, I've played seven years and six when you count

463
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Speaker 1: the eighteen playoff games we have played. The Scouts have

464
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Speaker 1: to live two lives after week eighteen. Everybody's kind of

465
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Speaker 1: on the same wavelength. But if you're in the playoffs

466
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Speaker 1: and you make a run to the Super Bowl, which

467
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs have done four times in five years, and

468
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Speaker 1: the other year they were in the championship game of

469
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Speaker 1: the AFC, the Scouts have to live two lives. They

470
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Speaker 1: do not stop. It's like they have to have two brains,

471
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Speaker 1: two hearts, you know too, pancreases. They must go and

472
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Speaker 1: live these two lives, and it's amazing what they do.

473
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Speaker 1: Pat spurdu of fifteen years in this organization, he's such

474
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Speaker 1: a key part of it. And then again as we

475
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Speaker 1: go to your second interview here with David, seven years

476
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Speaker 1: with the team, but he's been with five other teams.

477
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Speaker 1: It's part of the rhythm that Brett Veach has put

478
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Speaker 1: together with his staff. Guys that have been around a

479
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Speaker 1: long time will get into those somewhat later, some that

480
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Speaker 1: are brand new. But it's really a spectacular group of

481
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Speaker 1: folks in what they do and how they do it.

482
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Speaker 1: But then and they're on the outposts. They're not here

483
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Speaker 1: every day. They're living their lives all around the nation basically,

484
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Speaker 1: and yet there's some times they will come together that

485
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Speaker 1: are seminal moments for them. It's almost like a convention

486
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Speaker 1: of a sales team that is spread out across the country.

487
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Speaker 1: And one of those is training camp. Training camp in

488
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Speaker 1: Saint Joseph is important for so many reasons, but for

489
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Speaker 1: these guys and that Brett Veach has in his staff.

490
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Speaker 1: Training camp's a big deal.

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Speaker 5: It's a huge deal.

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Speaker 3: And you heard from Pat Sperdudo about how the process

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Speaker 3: works in the spring and summer. Well toward the end

494
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Speaker 3: of the summer, in mid July and early August, the

495
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Speaker 3: guys get together in Saint Joe a training camp, and

496
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Speaker 3: you'll hear from David Henson next. He is the Chief's

497
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Speaker 3: other co director of college scouting, and what he explained

498
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Speaker 3: was how they kind of figure out their schedule from

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Speaker 3: then on out. Of course they meet at training camp,

500
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Speaker 3: but from there they're going to divide and conquer all

501
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Speaker 3: over the country. They're going to figure out which scouts

502
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Speaker 3: go to, which areas, what schools you're going to go to,

503
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Speaker 3: what players you're going to watch, and in addition to that,

504
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Speaker 3: you're not just watching certain players, you're watching every single

505
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Speaker 3: player who could be in the upcoming draft.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I'll try to sum it up really quickly, because you know,

508
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Speaker 7: when training camp starts is really when it starts for us,

509
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Speaker 7: Like we start making our schedules, We get all the

510
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Speaker 7: scouts together, we figure out where they're going to go, where,

511
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Speaker 7: what schools they need to be at, what needs to

512
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Speaker 7: be covered. So we also have what we call over

513
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Speaker 7: the top guys. So we have our area guys that

514
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Speaker 7: go out and they go into their schools, and then

515
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Speaker 7: we have guys over top of that that also go

516
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Speaker 7: in the school So we figure out, okay, here's where

517
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Speaker 7: the area guys are going, and then here's where we

518
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Speaker 7: need extra coverage.

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Speaker 8: So then once training camp is over, we're out.

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Speaker 7: We're going to all the training camps around to all

521
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Speaker 7: the colleges, and then we go from fall. From there

522
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Speaker 7: to fall, just evaluating all the players out there. Each

523
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Speaker 7: individual scout, like I said, is gonna go like say

524
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Speaker 7: they have New York, They're gonna go into all the

525
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Speaker 7: schools that they need to be in New York, So

526
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Speaker 7: University of Buffalo or Syracuse, they'll go in there, and

527
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Speaker 7: they're not just gonna.

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Speaker 8: Evaluate the quarterback or the wide receiver.

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Speaker 7: They have, the punter, they have the long snapper, anybody

530
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Speaker 7: that's a senior that starts and plays, like we're gonna

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Speaker 7: get an evaluation on them from.

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Speaker 8: Not just how they play, but who they are as

533
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Speaker 8: a person.

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Speaker 3: All right, great stuff there from David Henson. One thing

535
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Speaker 3: that in that conversation with him I thought was really

536
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Speaker 3: interest and says a lot about our team and why

537
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: we're so successful is that they're not just watching players

538
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: and evaluating them through their lens. They're evaluating them based

539
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Speaker 3: on what they know about the Chiefs coaching staff. And

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Speaker 3: that might seem like an obvious point, but if you

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Speaker 3: look around pro sports and pro football in particular, a

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Speaker 3: lot of times you have a front office or a

543
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: scouting group and they are going to build the team

544
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Speaker 3: in their image and give it to the coaching staff

545
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Speaker 3: and it's up to the coaches to coach them up.

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Speaker 5: That's not how it works with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: With the Chiefs, you have Coach Read, one of the

548
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Speaker 3: greatest coaches of all time, and his staff. They have

549
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Speaker 3: a trust and a cohesion with the front office and

550
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Speaker 3: vice versa, where the scouts are looking for players that

551
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Speaker 3: they know Coach Read and the rest of the coaching

552
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Speaker 3: staff wants and likes. And that's not the case everywhere.

553
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Speaker 3: It's certainly the case with our scouts.

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Speaker 1: This is the sacred sauce. And again you're saying, well,

555
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Speaker 1: isn't this way everywhere? I would tell you very few

556
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Speaker 1: places in professionals for it's where it's this way and

557
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: this way is this I talked publicly and privately about

558
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Speaker 1: the flow that exists horizontally and vertically throughout the entire organization.

559
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Speaker 1: It really starts with Clark, but with coach Reid. He

560
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Speaker 1: brought this culture to us, but it's manifested in this

561
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Speaker 1: discussion with staffing the outposts because of the respect and

562
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Speaker 1: communication and understanding that exists between the individual scouts collectively,

563
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Speaker 1: but also between the pro and the college scouts. Now, Matt,

564
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Speaker 1: I've lived the life on the other side, I've lived

565
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Speaker 1: it because you can build a silo or scout will

566
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Speaker 1: say I brought the coach the player like you got

567
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Speaker 1: to coach them up, or the coach would say, you've

568
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Speaker 1: got to get me better players. I can't coach this

569
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Speaker 1: kid up. It happens all the time in the National

570
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Speaker 1: Football League. It does not happen here. And it's a

571
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Speaker 1: big reason why the Chiefs win and the fact that

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Speaker 1: you look at this cohesion and I like what Jonathan said. Now,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan has perspective here too, second year with the Chiefs,

574
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Speaker 1: going into his third year, but he's been with New England,

575
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Speaker 1: he's been with Carolina. He's got some outside in perspective,

576
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Speaker 1: and I love what he told you about how the

577
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Speaker 1: scouts think not only what the coaches want, but the

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Speaker 1: coaches respect the scouts too. That's a big part of

579
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Speaker 1: this too, And that's because the coach read but then

580
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Speaker 1: among themselves. Because football teams and football staffs can, in

581
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: specific in the NFL, can be fractured one hundred different ways,

582
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Speaker 1: these guys are cohesive and it's spectacular to.

583
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Speaker 4: Watch it work.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen Moneyball or read the book. It's

585
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Speaker 3: both one of my favorite books ever and one of

586
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Speaker 3: my favorite movies ever.

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Speaker 4: Kind of a nerd.

588
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Speaker 5: It's a nerd, big time nerd movie.

589
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Speaker 3: When they show the payroll at the beginning, it's the

590
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Speaker 3: very first thing you see is the payroll of the

591
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Speaker 3: Oakland A's versus the New York Yankees.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, this is my kind of movie.

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Speaker 3: My point, though, is that really paints the picture of

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Speaker 3: how a lot of times you don't have a coaching

595
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Speaker 3: staff in a front office that are working together. Because

596
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Speaker 3: one of the keys of the movie is that Billy

597
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Speaker 3: Bean is trying to instruckt this team the way he

598
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: wants and Art Howe is not having it, and they're clashing,

599
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 3: and Billy Bean wants Scott Haddiberg to play first base.

600
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Speaker 3: Art House says he doesn't know how to play for

601
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Speaker 3: a space. I'm not playing them there, and eventually it

602
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: all works out art how it gets on board. But

603
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Speaker 3: it can show that a lot of times in pro

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Speaker 3: sports you might think that everyone's working together and singing Kumbaya.

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Speaker 5: Not necessarily. It is that way with the Chiefs, where

606
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Speaker 5: there's very.

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Speaker 1: Rare matt all of you need to know how rare

608
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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 3: Here, and we're so lucky to have it because it

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Speaker 3: leads to obvious success. Now, Jonathan Howard is the one

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Speaker 3: that you referenced that we'll hear from next. He is

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Speaker 3: the Chief's national scout. He talked about that cohesion that

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Speaker 3: the Scouts have as a team, because think about it,

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Speaker 3: it'd be very easy when you're not spending a lot

615
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Speaker 3: of time with these people to kind of get off

616
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Speaker 3: into your own world, get egotistical, want only your guys

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Speaker 3: to succeed.

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Speaker 5: Not the case.

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Speaker 3: These guys love each other and they have an amazing

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Speaker 3: relationship that's really similar to the relationship that our guys

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Speaker 3: have on the field.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean our team is awesome. Merely work with

623
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Speaker 9: Jason Lamb, Grecstio, Jalen Myrick, some of those guys in

624
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Speaker 9: our department as well, and as a department as a whole.

625
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Speaker 9: We all collaborate and you guys, I'm sure here from

626
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Speaker 9: Brett all the time of just the way that our

627
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Speaker 9: unit is and how much he appreciates the group and

628
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Speaker 9: we appreciate each other. We have a really cool team culture,

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Speaker 9: the same way that you see with our players, and

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Speaker 9: it's all with a unified goal and vision. So I

631
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Speaker 9: really appreciate everyone that I work with here and we

632
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Speaker 9: are all on the same page and have the same objectives.

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Speaker 4: So it's a really good group.

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Speaker 5: All right.

635
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Speaker 3: Awesome stuff there from Jonathan Howard. You'll hear from Terry

636
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Speaker 3: delp here in a little bit, another one of the

637
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Speaker 3: people in this conversation, but he kind of echoed the

638
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Speaker 3: same thing that Jonathan said. They spend so much time

639
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Speaker 3: apart in different places and all over the country. Their

640
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: favorite thing is to get together as a group and

641
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Speaker 3: just grind film and just talk about things that they've seen,

642
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Speaker 3: things that have stood out from their interviews with players,

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Speaker 3: talk about their interactions, I mean again, and talking about nerds, right,

644
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: that's a giant room of football nerds that just want

645
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Speaker 3: to talk about football and all the things that they've experienced.

646
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Speaker 3: And we're so lucky that these guys like each other

647
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Speaker 3: and enjoy being around each other, because again, that leads

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Speaker 3: to collective success and.

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Speaker 1: They have to adjust. You mentioned Mike Borganza, who's just brilliant.

650
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Speaker 1: He was here prior to Bret Veach. Brett Veach kept him.

651
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Speaker 1: Another guy is Ryan Nutt, who he kept here. Ryan's

652
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Speaker 1: been with the Chiefs now going into a fifteenth year

653
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Speaker 1: director of player Personnel from the college scouting. But one

654
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Speaker 1: of those other times they get together is the combine,

655
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Speaker 1: and that's where you chase them down. But how big

656
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Speaker 1: is the combine? What do they do at the combine?

657
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Speaker 1: And why is that part of the secret success or

658
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Speaker 1: secret recipe?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was some interesting stuff from Ryan. I had

660
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Speaker 3: a much longer conversation with him that maybe I'll put

661
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Speaker 3: out at a different time, But he really did a

662
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Speaker 3: great job of walking step by step through the entire

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Speaker 3: process and particularly for what you're about to hear at

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Speaker 3: the combine. So we all know about the combine. You

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Speaker 3: flip on NFL network, they're showing the forty times and

666
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Speaker 3: guys do like social media segments. It's the time where

667
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Speaker 3: all of the top college prospects get together and you

668
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Speaker 3: get to see him run around and see what they

669
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Speaker 3: can do. And this guy has a giant broad jump,

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Speaker 3: and this guy is the fastest forty time. All of

671
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Speaker 3: that well, a lot of times, how do teams use that?

672
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Speaker 3: Why is it important? And I think for better or

673
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Speaker 3: for worse, it gets a little bit blown out of

674
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Speaker 3: proportion how certain guys do at the combine, whether it

675
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Speaker 3: be good or bad. But a lot of times we

676
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Speaker 3: don't know how teams actually use this information. Well, Ryan

677
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Speaker 3: talked about that, and he also emphasized probably the most

678
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Speaker 3: important part of the combine, it's the interviews. It's a

679
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Speaker 3: chance for the coaches to meet these players and really

680
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Speaker 3: get their first impression.

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Speaker 10: So the combine's great because it's streamline. It's streamlines and

682
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Speaker 10: it's efficient in terms of it brings three hundred and

683
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Speaker 10: twenty one players to one venue. Or you can get

684
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Speaker 10: a thorough medical cognitive test, you can do interviews, you

685
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Speaker 10: see the move around, you get physical testing, and then

686
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Speaker 10: you see positions, speci drills. It's competitive, it's a highly

687
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Speaker 10: stressful environment. You can see how these guys handle that stress.

688
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Speaker 10: Then you can compare contrast amongst the position, like the

689
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Speaker 10: strengths and weaknesses of each player. So it's great because

690
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Speaker 10: you have it all under one roof, But I want

691
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Speaker 10: to let it be known.

692
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Speaker 4: It's just a piece of the puzzle, right.

693
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Speaker 10: We've never taken a guy off the board, or we've

694
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Speaker 10: never drafted a guy strictly on their combine performance in

695
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Speaker 10: any respect. So while it is like important and there's

696
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Speaker 10: a part of it that is weighted, it's not the

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Speaker 10: be all.

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Speaker 3: End all, And the interview is I'm assuming I have

699
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Speaker 3: to be pretty important in all this, maybe even more

700
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Speaker 3: important than the testing is because you have a chance

701
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Speaker 3: to talk to these guys. He walk us through the

702
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Speaker 3: importance of those and kind of how those work.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so I'll break it up for you. So there's

704
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Speaker 10: actually two sets of interviews that go on. There's formal

705
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Speaker 10: and informal. Formal interviews are in a suite. There's about

706
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Speaker 10: fifteen people in there. There's five chairs at the front

707
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Speaker 10: of the room. It's going to be your GM, your

708
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Speaker 10: head coach, your position coach, you're coordinator, and then the player.

709
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Speaker 10: The position coach will run the meeting. The player will

710
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Speaker 10: be in front of the TV. The position coach will

711
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Speaker 10: go through the film and just talk us through what

712
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Speaker 10: you see.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 10: Before they go through the film, the room is open

715
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Speaker 10: for questions, right, So the first two three minutes of

716
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Speaker 10: it will want to get a feel for the player.

717
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Speaker 10: Just maybe a pressing question, or are you going to

718
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Speaker 10: do everything at the combine?

719
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Speaker 5: Why not just to.

720
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Speaker 10: Get a maybe just loosen the mood a little bit

721
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Speaker 10: and get them comfortable. Those last twenty minutes and it's strict.

722
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Speaker 10: You're on a deadline. You have a clock in your room,

723
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Speaker 10: and once they're done, a new player comes in, you rotate.

724
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Speaker 10: So while that's going on, concurrently, there's the informal interviews.

725
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Speaker 10: Those are one on ones with the player who isn't

726
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Speaker 10: up there interviewing with all the teams in the foremals.

727
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Speaker 10: They're they're kind of in like the bullpen, waiting around

728
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Speaker 10: and that's where they'll wait and they'll interview with coaches

729
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Speaker 10: who aren't up there at a table and it's a

730
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Speaker 10: more of a one on one setting. So that's why

731
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Speaker 10: they call it an informal in those last fifteen minutes,

732
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Speaker 10: and the reason why they're important is because after this

733
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Speaker 10: is all done, you get all the information you get

734
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Speaker 10: with the scouts feel about the player, your interactions at

735
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Speaker 10: the Senior Bowl or at any All Star event, your interviews,

736
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Speaker 10: the interviews at the combine, and you say, Okay, who

737
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Speaker 10: do we need to get more information on. Who won't

738
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Speaker 10: we able to interview, Who do we have to bring

739
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Speaker 10: in on a thirty visit, Who can we just do

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Speaker 10: a virtual interview with? And then it kind of just

741
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Speaker 10: breaks down. It's really just an ability to kind of

742
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Speaker 10: just whittle down and just get more information on guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, good stuff there. Really, what I think is

744
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Speaker 3: so fascinating about this is a lot of these scouts,

745
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Speaker 3: they've been grinding on these players for months. They have

746
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Speaker 3: a chance to meet them. They've watched them play in games,

747
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Speaker 3: they've watched them practice, they've talked to their coaches. They

748
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Speaker 3: kind of know everything about these guys. But I wonder

749
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Speaker 3: what it must be like if you're a scout and

750
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Speaker 3: you really like a handful of players and you get

751
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Speaker 3: thirty minutes for them to meet coach Read or to

752
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Speaker 3: meet Steve Spagnolo or Matt nag you're someone on the

753
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Speaker 3: coaching staff and you're just wondering how they're going to do,

754
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Speaker 3: and you know those interactions are so important and you've

755
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Speaker 3: already invested so much into that player with your knowledge

756
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Speaker 3: of them. I think really that's where the combine is

757
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Speaker 3: of the highest importance. It's can you show coach read

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Speaker 3: and the coaching staff that you have what it takes

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Speaker 3: to be a chief And some guys probably don't, but

760
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Speaker 3: some guys surely do.

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Speaker 1: Exhibit A is the twenty twenty two draft class. That

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Speaker 1: group of guys who led to the Super Bowl fifty

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Speaker 1: seven and fifty eight championship but in their rookie year

764
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Speaker 1: winning super Bowl fifty seven is a prime example of that,

765
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Speaker 1: because if you spend three to five minutes with any

766
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Speaker 1: one of those guys, you're gonna go, oh my gosh,

767
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Speaker 1: this is These are amazing humans, not just great players.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking to Trent McDuffie's and the karl Offtices,

769
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Speaker 1: and the Brian Cooks and going right down the line,

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Speaker 1: right the Jalen Watson's and the Joshua Williams of that group,

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Speaker 1: And that to me is what comes out of the

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Speaker 1: interview process and why the Chiefs are really good at it.

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Speaker 1: Another one, and I love the way that Brad Beach

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Speaker 1: has blended his staff.

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Speaker 4: He's got some newcomers.

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Speaker 1: And I'm really excited about Madison Aponte right, the gal

777
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Speaker 1: who's been with us now going into her third year.

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Speaker 1: She was part of the Norma Hunt fellowship to kind

779
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Speaker 1: of integrate into the front office, and she's great with us.

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Speaker 1: But there's some long time Willie Davis, who was the

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Speaker 1: hero of the ninety four went over John Elway with

782
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Speaker 1: he caught the Montana pass. I call him right front

783
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Speaker 1: Pylon if I see him in the hallway, he's right

784
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Speaker 1: front Pilon. That was my rookie year he made that catch.

785
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Speaker 1: But he's just an awesome scout. His son's really good

786
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Speaker 1: football but he's got sons, I guess a good football player.

787
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Speaker 1: But Terry Delps another one, great Ben Kansas twenty one

788
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Speaker 1: years he has been here, so he proceeded two different

789
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Speaker 1: groups of GM groups and as a guy that has

790
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Speaker 1: been a terrific contributor.

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Speaker 4: So you have these.

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Speaker 1: Younger ones and you have these people that have been

793
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Speaker 1: around a generation. But T Dale pet some interesting perspective.

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Speaker 3: He did, and you've heard from these other people about

795
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Speaker 3: the process.

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Speaker 5: How does it all work?

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Speaker 3: What we doing the spring in the summer, how do

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Speaker 3: we handle football season? Why is the combine important. Well,

799
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Speaker 3: what I asked Terry was for an example of a

800
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Speaker 3: player that he did all of that for and that

801
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Speaker 3: player ended up being a great chief.

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Speaker 5: And I think you'll enjoy his answer.

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Speaker 11: I would say, Nick Bolton's a good example. Did he

804
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Speaker 11: just blow testing out of the water here, No, he

805
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Speaker 11: wasn't a superstar.

806
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Speaker 4: He was good. But then you go back to the tape.

807
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Speaker 11: And he's just an unbelievable football player, and then the

808
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Speaker 11: coaches meet him, he's an unbelievable person. Like it's just

809
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Speaker 11: you know, and that's what we got again, heck of

810
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Speaker 11: a player.

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Speaker 3: When you think about all the work that you put

812
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Speaker 3: in on a guy like Nick, how satisfying is it

813
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Speaker 3: when you see him running into the end zone with

814
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Speaker 3: a fumble recovery for a touchdown in the Super Bowl.

815
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Speaker 11: It's it's good that you know, it is rewarding. But like,

816
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Speaker 11: he's our player, and a good scout once told me,

817
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Speaker 11: if he turns out to be a good player, he's

818
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Speaker 11: our player. If he turns out to be a bad player,

819
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Speaker 11: he's my player.

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Speaker 3: Nick Bolton was the guy that he wanted to bring up.

821
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Speaker 3: And that's a good one. And I asked him in

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Speaker 3: the interview and I'll just bring it up again. It

823
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Speaker 3: has to be so rewarding when you put that much

824
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Speaker 3: work and effort into a player. Not only did they

825
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Speaker 3: work out, they make one of the game changing plays

826
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Speaker 3: in the super Bowl, But then when I ask him,

827
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Speaker 3: you know, do you feel any personal pride in that

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Speaker 3: despite all the work he put in, despite all the

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Speaker 3: hours and the time and everything, and it ended up

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Speaker 3: being a smashing success, he doesn't take any credit. He's

831
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Speaker 3: so hesitant to take any credit at all. He's like, well,

832
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Speaker 3: he's our player. We did it together. I didn't do

833
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Speaker 3: that one. I think it's amazing. I think it says

834
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Speaker 3: so much about this organization that there are not egos

835
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Speaker 3: involved when they're doing this, and that's unique.

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Speaker 1: What I've noticed about these guys, and began this league

837
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Speaker 1: for thirty one years, but these this group since Brett

838
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Speaker 1: kind of put him together and kept some old and

839
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Speaker 1: new and brought in some is the fact that they

840
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: have to their victories. That's why that bus ride from

841
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Speaker 1: Allegiant Stadium to our post game party was so awesome,

842
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Speaker 1: because that was a moment they could take pride in

843
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Speaker 1: it collectively, but personally they know Teed Delp knows that

844
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Speaker 1: if he was on the Bolton case and Bolton has

845
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Speaker 1: become a star. And I mentioned the twenty two draft class,

846
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Speaker 1: Oh how about the twenty one draft class. But the

847
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Speaker 1: fact that you're at a stoplight, or you're staring at

848
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Speaker 1: your laptop, or you're driving to that college to do

849
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Speaker 1: an evaluation or go to a pro day, that's when

850
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Speaker 1: you know in your heart of hearts, the satisfaction of

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Speaker 1: I helped us win because I saw something in Nick

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Speaker 1: Bolton that I thought he could be a star. That's

853
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Speaker 1: where Te de delp and all the others have to

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Speaker 1: You don't get it publicly, but there's a private moment

855
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Speaker 1: by yourself where you make that claim. But then publicly

856
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Speaker 1: you're in you're humble because there's a lot for every

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Speaker 1: Nick Bolton.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot that didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: Sure, but the point is that's how they have to

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Speaker 1: train themselves to kind of keep themselves going a little bit.

861
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Speaker 1: And there's some personal pride, but it's a private personal

862
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Speaker 1: pride that they must have permeates through this.

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Speaker 4: Whole group that Brett Veach has and including Brett.

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Speaker 5: Himself, totally agree.

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Speaker 3: And I just want to emphasize again to the Kingdom

866
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Speaker 3: as we're wearing our Super Bowl champion hoodies right, our

867
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Speaker 3: third hoodie and five years. There is so much that

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Speaker 3: goes in to winning a championship, and we know about

869
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Speaker 3: a lot of the reasons. It's Patrick Mahomes, It's Travis Kelsey,

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Speaker 3: Chris Jalones, Brett Viach, Clark Hunt, Andy Reid, all these

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Speaker 3: public facing figures, but it is also guys like Terry

872
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Speaker 3: del and Pat s Burdudo, David Henson, Jonathan Howard, right,

873
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 3: Chris grey Castillo.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk to Sem for one of these guys later, but.

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Speaker 4: Tim Terry on pro side.

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Speaker 3: It is these people that dedicate everything to hopefully finding

877
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: one or two players that they are responsible for in

878
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 3: the draft and maybe that player will contribute. And I'm

879
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 3: so happy for these guys that they have been rewarded

880
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: with one of the greatest runs for any team in

881
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: North American sports history over the last five years because

882
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: they so much work in and even though they're not

883
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: going to publicly say it, it has to feel so

884
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: good when you see these players, particularly players selected later

885
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 3: in the draft, making huge plays in big moments.

886
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: Think of the United States, the ambassadors that we have

887
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: in nations. These scouts are very much that for the

888
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: Chief Kingdom. They're on these outposts. Let me give you

889
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: a very tangible way that we don't think about as fans,

890
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: where this becomes very important. After the draft is over,

891
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: the bell rings and it closes it with mister irrelevant,

892
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: all heck breaks loose. It's this flurry of communication and

893
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: calls and connection to get your group of undrafted free agents.

894
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: And we have seen the Chiefs, whether it's Cam Jones

895
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: last year or Jack Cochran, we've seen undrafted free agents

896
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: become key to success. These scouts are the conduit to

897
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: those guys. They have been on campus, they have done

898
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: the study, they've said here's the group, and they target

899
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: the group they're going to call forfas and it's this

900
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: group that we're highlighting that makes that happen. And it

901
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: has to happen in a split second. But it's been

902
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: months of doing their due diligence. So let's also give

903
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: them credit as we close here for the work that

904
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: they do that goes beyond the draft. And even on

905
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: the pro side, we have seen the Drew Tranquils and

906
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: the you know, the pros that we talked about actually

907
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: in a previous episode where they do the diligence and

908
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: then going back to that we talked about this, then

909
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: they'll go to the college guys and go, hey, what

910
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: do you have on Tranquil And they'll go back to

911
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: look at the research that they've done in due tranquil

912
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: when he was at Notre Dame or even Fort Wayne

913
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: who is in high school. That's just an example that

914
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: they work together. But they are the conduit or the

915
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: ambassadors many times to these colleges where you have to

916
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: find these players.

917
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: Tim Terry, who've mentioned a little bit, is on the

918
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: chief's pro personnel side. He's in charge of that entire group.

919
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 3: He told me this a couple of years ago about

920
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 3: how unique it is that not only does the chief's

921
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: coaching stand front office work cohesively together, the pro side

922
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 3: and the college side work so closely together. And again,

923
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: that's how it should be, like, that's obvious, that shouldn't

924
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: be like a big revelation, but it is because in

925
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: the world of sports, for some reason, because there are

926
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Speaker 3: so many egos involved, a lot of times you'll have

927
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: a college scouting department in a pro scouting department that

928
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: don't really share everything because they want to be the

929
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: one that gets the guy They want to be the

930
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: one that's getting all the credit. And with the Chiefs,

931
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Speaker 3: they don't really care about that. With the Chiefs, as

932
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Speaker 3: you said, there are times when maybe the Chiefs are

933
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 3: interested in a player. Hollywood Brown is a great example.

934
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Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown told us that the Chiefs were interested in

935
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Speaker 3: him way back in what twenty nineteen, Ye didn't work out,

936
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Speaker 3: didn't draft Hollywood. He went to the Ravens. Well here

937
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 3: six years later when they were interested in Hollywood. I

938
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Speaker 3: am certain that at some point Tim Terry went to

939
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 3: the college scouting department and said, give me all your

940
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: information on Hollywood Brown. What did you love about Hollywood

941
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: Brown when he was at Oklahoma. Again, that seems so

942
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: simple and obvious. Everyone should do that, But I'm telling

943
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Speaker 3: you not every pro scott In Department and colleges gott

944
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Speaker 3: In department work together like that. The Chiefs those two

945
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: units certainly do.

946
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Speaker 1: Again, they're victories many times have to be in private moments.

947
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Speaker 1: You can go to your favorite search engine and look

948
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Speaker 1: these gals and guys up in Breadbeach's staff and have

949
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: a private moment at a stoplight in front of your

950
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: laptop or PC and just clap and clap for them

951
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: because they deserve it, and that's probably the only applause

952
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: they will hear. But these are unique people, and the

953
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: chiefs are winning because of them, and they are staffing

954
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Speaker 1: the outposts.