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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 1: straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: February twenty eighth. Sirens are blaring. We've got a monster

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Speaker 1: show for you to wrap up the month of February.

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Speaker 1: A great guest. You guys know, I'm obsessed with the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears number one overall pick situation. They have the pick,

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Speaker 1: but they've got a quarterback. What do you do? So

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Speaker 1: I ask the immortal rob Gie, find me a guy

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Speaker 1: who could talk Bears. What do you think he did?

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Speaker 1: He turned up a guy who was in the Bears

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Speaker 1: front office for over a decade. I think he was

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Speaker 1: the director of scouting, Greg Gabriel. He now has a

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Speaker 1: podcast because everybody has a podcast, and he gives great

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Speaker 1: insight into what the Bears may or may not do.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say we disagree, Okay, I'll leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: He has a lot of relationships around the league, and

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Speaker 1: you can hear that. If you're into the bread crumbs,

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Speaker 1: just listen closely to players gms his knowledge and you

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Speaker 1: could pick up some interesting stuff. I'll leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to Greg, we got to start with

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Speaker 1: the NBA. It was a massive night in the association.

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Speaker 1: I should be leading with my Knicks winning their sixth straight,

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Speaker 1: taking down the Celtics in the garden. Monster game for

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Speaker 1: my guy, Julius Randall, Mitchell Robinson rejecting Chase to Tatum

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Speaker 1: at the rim. No soup for you? Does anybody say

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Speaker 1: that anymore? It was an awesome performance by the Knicks,

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Speaker 1: wire to wire win, impressive and now they are the

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Speaker 1: number five seed in the East. Knicks on a collision

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Speaker 1: course with the Calves. And I can hear you, guys screaming,

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, you're not talking about Lebron.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to put too much of a

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Speaker 1: Debbie downer on the pod, guys, Labron's gonna be out

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Speaker 1: a few weeks. The right foot injury he suffered against

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Speaker 1: the MAVs, the one he was limping in the tunnel

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Speaker 1: with after the game. Serious. Now, I've seen various reports

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Speaker 1: it might be a plantar. Flashy fasciitis flare up. By

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Speaker 1: the way, as I'm getting older, I know a bunch

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Speaker 1: of people with plantart. Apparently it sucks, including the wife.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't sound fine, doesn't sound fun at all. Now when

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Speaker 1: you're a high level athlete like Lebron, and it might

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Speaker 1: be more than plantar. It ain't good bottom line Lakers.

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Speaker 1: It's like they can't have nice things. It's almost as

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Speaker 1: if Lebron's trip to LA after he left Cleveland has

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Speaker 1: just been riddled with hurdles and guys. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you feel this way sometimes in life, but I

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Speaker 1: certainly do. Every single time a lot of things come

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Speaker 1: together and you're cruising, the big guy upstairs just throws

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Speaker 1: you a curveball and you're like, what the why do

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Speaker 1: I have to deal with this crap now? This happens

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Speaker 1: to me so freaking often. I have had weeks I

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Speaker 1: don't even know, maybe a month where it was just

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Speaker 1: like this is amazing, life is perfect, this is awesome,

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Speaker 1: and then nothing lasts forever. It always comes to an end,

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Speaker 1: and just as the Lakers fans are like, holy cow,

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Speaker 1: we've got something, Jared Vanderbilt, baby, we've won four or five.

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Speaker 1: We're coming for that six seeds so we don't have

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Speaker 1: to be in the play in Its looking good that

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Speaker 1: twenty seven point come back down twenty seven against the MAVs.

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Speaker 1: I saw a stat that teams that were down twenty

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Speaker 1: seven points or something like one hundred, and they had

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Speaker 1: lost one hundred and thirty eight straight games. And then

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Speaker 1: And there it is like a little like twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours later. Oh, Lebron's gonna be out several weeks. Well,

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Speaker 1: guess what, there's barely several weeks left in the freaking season.

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Speaker 1: And that's just a crippling blow for the Lakers. By

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Speaker 1: the way, if you have looked at the schedule, if

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Speaker 1: you're a TV executive listening to this podcast, you are

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Speaker 1: just crushed. Tonight Lakers at the Grizz. You know there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be like a black cloud hovering over the Lakers. Geez,

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Speaker 1: going to Memphis. Remember the last time they met? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you remember the last time they met? At God heeded

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Speaker 1: John Moran loves to run his mouth. Now they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be at home. Lakers wounded National TV game. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I have no money on this game. I will not

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Speaker 1: be betting on a late February NBA game. Sorry, guys.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't beat wouldn't shock be if the Lakers came out

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Speaker 1: Then they got a back to back in Okac that's

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Speaker 1: eventually catch and pass the Timberwolves. Then their home against

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Speaker 1: Golden States this Sunday. Hello, I inquired about tickets to

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Speaker 1: Then they got Memphis again, Toronto Nicks four, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, one, two, three, five of those seven next

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Speaker 1: games are TV games. TV executives just thrilled Lebron's out

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Speaker 1: and hopefully Lakers get Dangel Russell back. But again, you

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Speaker 1: look at the seasons that Lebron has had and he

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Speaker 1: D win the title in the bubble. Some bozos want

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Speaker 1: to put an asterisk by it. Totally disagree. If anything,

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Speaker 1: it was harder. I went at it with Mitch Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: I've forgotten about it. We disagreed, obviously. I think the

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Speaker 1: bubble title is extremely hard, especially on these young guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, me an older dude, I'm I'm okay in solitude.

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Speaker 1: Not quite Aaron Rodgers. Darkness retreats solitude. But like, if

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Speaker 1: I didn't have to force my kids to eat food

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Speaker 1: That being said, a lot of these young guys are

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Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of tough for them to get

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Speaker 1: away from being around people all the time, being social, enjoying,

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Speaker 1: Drived won the title. The following year is the interesting one.

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Speaker 1: The sons were the number two seed in the West.

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Speaker 1: the Bucks were getting smoked by the Nets. Remember first

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Speaker 1: That should have been a Durant Lebron Finals. That would

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Speaker 1: And then of course last year the injuries, they win

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Speaker 1: thirty three games, Russell Westbrook disaster. Now they make a

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Speaker 1: they're not making the playoffs. There's a play in team.

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Speaker 1: I told you this before the Lebron injury. If they

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to believe it. I'm gonna have to break

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Speaker 1: out my nineteen eighties throwback Denver Nuggets hat, and it's

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Speaker 1: for Lakers fans. This is another postseason without Lebron, and

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Speaker 1: to point out LaMelo ball fractured ankle. His season over. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Hornets fans are not happy. I'll say this. It helps

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Speaker 1: I guess quickly drill down, ever so briefly on the Sixers.

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Speaker 1: on ig Jason, you're crazy and Bead's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Stop with this. Come on, this is nonsense. Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 1: I'm ruling to take it a step further. Quinn Snyder

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Speaker 1: really start to panic. If you're more doc Rivers survive

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Speaker 1: he's like, what am I doing here? And I'll be fright.

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Speaker 1: The Miami Heat are gonna be dangerous against the Sixers two.

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Speaker 1: We've seen hard melt down every postseason. Now, obviously I

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Speaker 1: when last night now six and oh with the immortal

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Speaker 1: Nick's team is fun. It's feisty. Jalen Brunson continues to

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Speaker 1: what happens in two weeks from free agency start, because

425
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Speaker 1: what happens in the draft will be totally determined by

426
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Speaker 1: what happened in free agents. Yeah, were they able to

427
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Speaker 1: sign who they lois, They're gonna you know, eyeball certain guys,

428
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: and they got more money. They got forty five million

429
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Speaker 1: more than the next team, which is Atlanta, which has

430
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Speaker 1: around fifty five million available, and the Bears have just

431
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,239
Speaker 1: under one hundred ninths. So I mean they got all

432
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: the money in the world to go out and try

433
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: to fix the team. Now it's a matter of getting

434
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Speaker 1: the right people, getting the right people in the locker room,

435
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: the right character people, and then building from there. Now

436
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: you look at some numbers and you can use Jalen Hurts,

437
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: you can use Josh Allen. Both of those guys struggled

438
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: their first two years in the league. Hurts hardly played. Okay,

439
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: but both struggle. You know, I'm from Buffalo, so I'm

440
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: a big bill stand and I watched every game. And

441
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: Josh Allen his first two years, you know, there's people

442
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: around the league, well is he going to do it?

443
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: And then his third year took a huge jump. He

444
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: never completed sixty percent of his passes the first two

445
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: years in the league. Okay, his second year he was

446
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: around fifty nine percent, and then next year he jumped

447
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: to sixty nine percent. That's unheard of to jump ten

448
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: points in one year, and yet he did it. So

449
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: and what did they do? They got him another receiver

450
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: that helped, but the team was starting to mature and

451
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: then the same thing happened. Can happen with Chicago. I'm

452
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: not going to sit here and say it can. I'm

453
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: not going to sit here and say it can because

454
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: the moves still have to be determined. So it's gonna be.

455
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Speaker 1: And I don't care what the media says about the

456
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: moves either. It's what the people, the decision makers feel

457
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Speaker 1: about those players. Did they get the guys there they're

458
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: looking at. There's gonna be players that media or fans

459
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: will say, well, they should have signed this guy. But

460
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: the guy isn't a scheme fit for the team, so

461
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: that's important too. It's interesting. I was just looking at

462
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: the Josh Allen, that's a great call, and it happened

463
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: in his It was his third year, so had Stefan Diggs,

464
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: Hurts gets a J Brown? Who are you getting for fields?

465
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: And also, also, by the way, Josh Allen adapt Brian Dable,

466
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: who is a pretty damn good play caller in Buffalo.

467
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: We saw Alan maybe regress a little bit. I don't

468
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Speaker 1: know if it's the elbow or Dorsey not on the

469
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: level of Dayble. But I don't know Luke Getsy. I

470
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: don't know enough about him to know if he has

471
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: that Dayble in him. I mean, Shane Stekin did pretty

472
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: damn good things with Justin Herbert for a minute and

473
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Speaker 1: then Hurts obviously. I just I have some reservations that

474
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Speaker 1: you can go out and add a Diggs or an

475
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: AJ Brown caliber receiver. Now, if you get Mike Evans,

476
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: that's good, but he's he's not at the level of

477
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: those two guys. Would you say, well, well, I'm gonna

478
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: I'll say this and I'm throwing a guard at the Wall.

479
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: I've got some information, but for the most part, you know,

480
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 1: I I look at it. You know, I spent enough

481
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: time in the league to know how people think. And

482
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: Ryan Paul's was brought up by a lot of people

483
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: that I know very well, so I know what their

484
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: philosophy was. So I'm going to assume that his philosophy

485
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: is going to be similar. He's not going to go

486
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: out and spend a lot of money on a thirty

487
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: year old player. That's not going to make any sense

488
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: to him because it's it's when the team is getting

489
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: ready to get over the hump. Those guys are going

490
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: to be thirty three or whatever, and so why spend

491
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: You know, you couldn't do it for one player, but

492
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: you're not going to do it for more than that.

493
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: You know, you're going to try to get the guys

494
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: who were twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven that are

495
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: going to grow with the team. Interesting, now let me

496
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: jump in here. So Poles looks like he was in

497
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: Casey for a long time, a lot of it with

498
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: Andy Reid. M case is the only place he worked,

499
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: if memory serves greg When when Patrick Mahomes was young,

500
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: they got him, they did spend on a receive her

501
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: named Sammy Watkins. I didn't think he was particularly amazing,

502
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: but it still falls under the umbrella of hey, quarterback

503
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: on the rookie deal, go get a wide receiver to

504
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: stretch the field. And they developed Tyreek Hill. That was

505
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: the other falling into some luck there as he fell

506
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: in the draft due to some character concerns. Um, so

507
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: you're of the belief the Bears should stick with Fields,

508
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: and then what do you have them doing at one?

509
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: Are they trading to the highest bidder or do you

510
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: have to think, Yeah, I think there's a chance they

511
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: could just trade down one's box too, But that depends.

512
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: Here's what's got to happen, and it's not going to

513
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: happen this week at the combine. We're still a month away.

514
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: And you know, go back two years ago when Fields

515
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: was drafted, there was the obvious number one quarterback in Lawrence. Okay,

516
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: this year you don't have that. So you could pull

517
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: all of thirty two teams and you might get a

518
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: third say it's Strout, a third say it's another third,

519
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: say it's will Love, it's from Kentucky. So what will

520
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: happen over the period of say, the next six weeks,

521
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: five six weeks is you're going to have the combine.

522
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: Young is not going to throw at the combine. But

523
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: throwing at the combine means nothing. The interviews will mean something.

524
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: But if I was an agent, I wouldn't even want

525
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: my guy to throw at the combine because I just

526
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: think it's totally meaningless the way it's set up. Yeah,

527
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: Young's the only one not throwing there right right. The

528
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: other guys are, But then they're gonna have the Pro days,

529
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: and the Pro days aren't going to matter that much

530
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: either because Pro days are scripted. Yeah, and the NFL

531
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: coaches really have nothing to say with what goes on

532
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: that day. And the guy's practiced it for a couple

533
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: of weeks ahead of time. He knows what throw he's

534
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: gonna make at what time, et cetera. What makes the

535
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: difference is going in and having a private workout. And

536
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: we're not talking just a one hour workout on the field.

537
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: You're talking classroom interviews, something that's taking anywhere from five

538
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: to six hours of time over in length, starting the

539
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: morning ending in the middle of the afternoon, and they

540
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: come away from that with a good feeling. Okay, this

541
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: is the guy I want. This is a guy I

542
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: don't want for whatever reason. But you've got to develop

543
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: a love affair has got to happen. The Colts got

544
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: to fall in love with somebody. Houston's got to fall

545
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: in love with somebody. Carolina has got to fall in

546
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: love with somebody, and hopefully they fall in love with

547
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: the same guy and that'll drive the market up. But

548
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: if that doesn't happen, you still like the Colts and

549
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: Houston are in the same division, and ones at four

550
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: and the others at two. Well, you know, the Colts,

551
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: you got to be thinking the Colts are saying, I

552
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: want to jump in front of Houston because I want

553
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: to get my first shot at the quarterback. Especially their

554
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: last five years they've had a different quarterback in Week one.

555
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're despoltely. Yeah, so I think it

556
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: falls into what the Bears are going to want to do.

557
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: And then if they don't go below four and two

558
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks go, they're going to get one of the top

559
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: defensive players. It's gonna be who knows. Yeah, it's interesting.

560
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: I was trying to look at your time in Chicago

561
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: in the late nineties early two thousands, two thousands. I didn't.

562
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: I came in two thousand and one. Okay, So so

563
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: in two thousand and two, you guys grab Rex Grossman

564
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: at twenty two. Overall, I'm curious, can you talk us

565
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: through what that was like when you guys brought him

566
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: into the facility. I'm assuming you have one of those

567
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: six hour workouts. Now, we didn't. First of all, we

568
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: went down worked him out, but we didn't bring it.

569
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Speaker 1: We didn't bring him into the facility because we had

570
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: made up our mind that he was going to be

571
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: the guy would like. Unfortunately, he got hurt about five

572
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: years into his career, you know, I mean, he didn't

573
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: break his ankle one spot and broke him like ten

574
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: and his ankle in fact, remember the the racehorse Barbara,

575
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, he fractured his ankle on

576
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: the backstretch in one race and they then they showed

577
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: pictures of the X race. That's what Rex Rossman's ankle

578
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: looked like after tore it up. It was I mean,

579
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: what it took away from him was all lateral movement

580
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: that he had. And he wasn't a big guy to

581
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: begin with, so that killed his game. But regardless, that

582
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: year Harshan Palmer was the number one pick. Obvious number one. Okay,

583
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks win Byron Leftwich went it around seven Byron

584
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: Leftwich seven, yes, correct. Then the bowler went at eighteen

585
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: or nineteen. What a bus Well, there's a story behind

586
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: that bowler Baltimore traded up in front of us because

587
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: we made it sound like we brought Bowler in and

588
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: put him out in front of the media. That was

589
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: our guy. So that was the orchestrated move That was

590
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: the orchestrator movement we were never going to take. And

591
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: that goes back really to the Combine interview, the Combined

592
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: interview when he was just talking about his time at

593
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: Cal and you know, before he had the coach that

594
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: he finished up with. You know, his career was not

595
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: that good. He was like a fifty two fifty three

596
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: percent passer. Uh and they got a new coaches last

597
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: year his numbers jumped up. Everybody was enthralled with that

598
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: giant arm I remember, yeah, yeah, Well, so we asked him,

599
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, what was it like when you were losing?

600
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, I walked around campus with the

601
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: hoodie and I always had the hood ups, so nobody

602
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: would know who I am. I was right then and there,

603
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: we made a decision we don't want him. That's not

604
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: our guy, Holy count, because you want your quarterback to

605
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: be a cockey guy and a confident guy. And he

606
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: was telling us right there with that answer that he

607
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: wasn't confident. But at the same time, we wanted to

608
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: make it look like that was going to be our guy,

609
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: and so Baltimore jumped in front of us to get it.

610
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: It's interesting because that wasn't a great draft. Excuse me

611
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. Dave ragone third round, Chris Sims in the

612
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: third round. I was thinking Chris was on the second

613
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: Chris uh yeah, end of the third round, last pick

614
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: of the third round of Tampa Um, Brian Saint Pierre.

615
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: Yet not a great quarterback draft. You did pretty I

616
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: would say you did well. There's only two quarterbacks in

617
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: that in that class. Played well moments, some moments, and

618
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: but he was hurt by injuries also true, yeah, um,

619
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: which you know there's nothing you could do about that. Now. UM,

620
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking to see you guys got Kyle Orton in

621
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, but you were still in Chicago

622
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: for that one. Yep, Well that you got him in

623
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: the fourth round round Yeah, okay, And at that time

624
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: draft was Saturday and Sunday, I believe, And so he

625
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: had the first three rounds on Saturday, he started with

626
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: the fourth round. And you know when you're reshuffling everything

627
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: Saturday after the draft and Sunday morning before they start,

628
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, his card jumped out with the grade on it,

629
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: you know, that was better than everybody else. And our

630
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: area scout really liked him. Our area Scott actually just

631
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: from West Lafienne lived there, so he um knew the

632
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: players from UH from Purdue very very well. And so

633
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, I mean, why not. Really when

634
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: you look at the career he yet for fourth ground quarterback,

635
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: he had a hell of a career. Yeah, I would

636
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: say that was an outstanding call. I am curious to

637
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Speaker 1: you know, again, Aaron Rodgers was a guy on there.

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Speaker 1: Do you recall how how you guys had him on

639
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Speaker 1: your board? He went obviously first round, Yeah, he went.

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Speaker 1: Everybody thought, you know, that's another interesting story because a

641
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: lot of people thought he was going like first or second. Yeah,

642
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: and Smith goes number one to San Francisco. They make

643
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: the determination to go number one, and then including us,

644
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Speaker 1: the running backs go, which will never happen again. But

645
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Speaker 1: three running backs went in the top five. Oh my gosh,

646
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Speaker 1: you know. And now you can say that, but at

647
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Speaker 1: that time money backs were a value position. This was

648
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Speaker 1: two thousand and five and it was more of a

649
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Speaker 1: value position. Cedric Benson there and the Cadillac Williams and

650
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Speaker 1: uh Ronnie Brown, Ronnie Brown, Aubrey guys. Okay, they went two,

651
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: four and five in the draft, and then all of

652
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: a sudden, this Aaron Rodgers guy is there and he

653
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: keeps falling, and nobody could really come up with an answer.

654
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Speaker 1: And we the more we thought about it after was

655
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: that everybody thought he was going one or two and

656
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Speaker 1: were prepared for you know, as you're leading up to

657
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Speaker 1: the draft, you make your decisions going into the draft,

658
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Speaker 1: not undrafted, and so it was war like, what's happening here?

659
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: We must have missed something. They all know something that

660
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Speaker 1: we don't know. And then all of a sudden, you know,

661
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: Green Bay gets them around twenty or something, you know,

662
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Speaker 1: which was crazy. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

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Speaker 1: Search FSR to listen live, Greg, is there a metric

666
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Speaker 1: that mattered to you more internally in Chicago that you

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Speaker 1: cared more about than we see out here now everybody's

668
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Speaker 1: like all forty times at bench press, Like, we know

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Speaker 1: that stuff doesn't really matter a whole hell of a lot.

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Speaker 1: But is there a metric you guys leaned on more

671
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Speaker 1: or was it more of an interview the process than

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Speaker 1: then strictly number Because it sounds like football is getting

673
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Speaker 1: a little more numbers based. They're behind obviously in baseball

674
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Speaker 1: and basketball, but it sounds like football kind of is

675
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: on the come up and the analytics is starting to

676
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Speaker 1: get huge, even when it comes to the draft. Well,

677
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Speaker 1: when I was working in Chicago, I guess we use

678
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Speaker 1: some analytics, but nobody called an analytics yet. It wasn't

679
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: made up yet. Yeah, so at least in the football world.

680
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Speaker 1: But we like when we did when we drafted Rex

681
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: and we did a profile of all the quarterbacks. We

682
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: were looking at what they did on first and tench

683
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Speaker 1: what they did on second and long, third and long,

684
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Speaker 1: how they do against top ten teams, what they do

685
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Speaker 1: on the road, what they do at home, you know,

686
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Speaker 1: So we broke down their career that way percentage of

687
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Speaker 1: completions at home versus percentage of completions on the road.

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Speaker 1: You know, so you want to call that analytics, That

689
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: was analytics, but a lot of it had to do.

690
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Speaker 1: We put a lot of on us on our scouts

691
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Speaker 1: to know the player and get the correct background information

692
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Speaker 1: and make sure sure their football character was good. You know,

693
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Speaker 1: you can. You can get a guy with a shaky

694
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Speaker 1: personal character and he could turn into a great, great

695
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Speaker 1: football player because football is important to him and he's

696
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Speaker 1: gonna toll the lie. Okay, but if you get a

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Speaker 1: guy that has poor football character and poor personal character,

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Speaker 1: he's dead. He's dead. And the reason for bus And

699
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Speaker 1: you go go back and look at a lot of

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Speaker 1: the bus and why and why it had happened, you're

701
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Speaker 1: gonna find out a lot of them weren't love with football. Yeah,

702
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Speaker 1: let's quickly go through a couple of prospects. Here at

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Speaker 1: greg number one, Bryce Young measured today as we record

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Speaker 1: this on Monday, at five ten and a half. That

705
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Speaker 1: would obviously be by a Yeah where now where did

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Speaker 1: he measure at? According to I believe it is. Todd

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00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: McShay of ESPN said that I guess it's Indie. He

708
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Speaker 1: was measured at five ten. Anything starts at indian until tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I question that. I mean, I can't

710
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Speaker 1: imagine floating stuff that I understand that. I'm not trying

711
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Speaker 1: to argue, but I don't think anything starts at the

712
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: combine until tomorrow with with weighing and measuring everything else,

713
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Speaker 1: unless they're they're getting I know, they don't do it

714
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: on the open stage anymore, right, they do it in private.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it's accurate five ten and a half, um

716
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Speaker 1: is gonna hurt, is gonna hurt. But but how though,

717
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Speaker 1: like obviously he's not in play for Chicago at one.

718
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Speaker 1: I think that would be insane with the weather in Chicago,

719
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Speaker 1: his small side, I just it doesn't make sense. But

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Speaker 1: you get a dome team, like a dome here, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be dead by the time. Yeah, you look

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00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: at the Indianapolis Colts trading up. Listen, I don't think you.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have young as number one on my board.

724
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Speaker 1: But again, I haven't met him, I haven't interviewed him.

725
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Speaker 1: I don't always like a white board all that fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: He was just in such a loaded program in Alabama,

727
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Speaker 1: on I like the player, Okay, I'm not gonna say

728
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Speaker 1: I don't like the player like he's a winner. When

729
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Speaker 1: you're looking at a short player, one of the things

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Speaker 1: you look for is his release point and does he

731
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Speaker 1: get a lot of balls knocked down at the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage? Does he make throws over the middle or

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Speaker 1: does he have a hard time scene and he has

734
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Speaker 1: to throw everything outside? He passes the test on all

735
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Speaker 1: that stuff. He doesn't get passes knocked down, He makes

736
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Speaker 1: completions in the middle of the field, and he can

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Speaker 1: extend plays with his team. He's got a strong arm.

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Speaker 1: I think. I don't think his arms as strong as

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Speaker 1: love us and I think it's stronger than uh strong.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's gonna be each team. But

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Speaker 1: some teams are gonna be taken back by if that

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Speaker 1: five ten and a half is accurate, they're going to

743
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Speaker 1: be taken back by the five ten and a half.

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00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: And yeah, and they're gonna say that's too small. Um,

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00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: you know we're not going to know the answer to

746
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Speaker 1: that for another six weeks. Yeah. Let me ask you though, Um,

747
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Speaker 1: if Indie does trade up, if you look at Ballard

748
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Speaker 1: as you uh you know, you had a good Chris

749
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Speaker 1: Ballard's story earlier, Ballard's history of quarterbacks. She's just large,

750
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Speaker 1: strapping quarterbacks in the Carson Wentz who they cut Um,

751
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Um Rivers. Luck like, you look at the history,

752
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: ain't no small quarterbacks in there now? As had he

753
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Speaker 1: actually had to say no, he had he had to

754
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: say in Mahomes at Kansas City. He was the player

755
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: of personnel, director, vice president, player of personnel or something

756
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: at Kansas City. That's fall and he went to see

757
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes played three times. Okay, so then in January he

758
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: gets the Colds job. But all the information that he

759
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: had written on Mahomes was in the according according to

760
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Speaker 1: a bio here six two two twenty five, you know

761
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: he's kind of I'm not saying he's strapping in the

762
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning mold, but you know that's a big quarterback.

763
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Speaker 1: He's probably got Bryce. Yeah. So does this is this

764
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Speaker 1: kind of a tell that maybe Will Levis is going

765
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Speaker 1: to be the guy that Balard wants to move up

766
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Speaker 1: and get. You know, I couldn't hire I know I

767
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: like based off I know I know who he likes

768
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: in the fall Um, but who he likes and who

769
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Speaker 1: their new head coach is gonna like, and who their

770
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Speaker 1: whole personnel department, Like you never have one guy. It's

771
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: never one guy's opision. It's a it's a yeah, composite

772
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Speaker 1: of several opinions and an indie Greg. It feels like

773
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Speaker 1: the owner, unfortunately as a large say he's already hyping

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Speaker 1: up Bryce Young Uh in a press conference recently, like

775
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Speaker 1: I don't. I would bet my bottom dollar that was planning.

776
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Speaker 1: But you know how certain things, you know, get out

777
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Speaker 1: for a reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, m hmm okay,

778
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: and then, um, I guess finally, if you're Houston and

779
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be going against everything in

780
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Speaker 1: your football DNA. If you're Houston with the number two pick,

781
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: do you say we don't want a quarterback. We're just

782
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna stink again. We're gonna load up in every other position.

783
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: And then next year, I don't care if we win

784
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: three games, thank you. We will take the kid from USC,

785
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: we will take the kid from u NC. One of

786
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Speaker 1: those two will be ours, and we will have the

787
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: um the kind of the the foundation with maybe we

788
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: get Jalen Carter, the big kid out of Georgia will

789
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: Anderson the edge rusher. We're gonna we're gonna load up

790
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: everywhere butt quarterback. We're gonna take our lumps for a year,

791
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: and then we're coming back next year with a star quarterback. Okay,

792
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: could they do that? Yes, but anybody could. Yeah. Are

793
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: they gonna fire a head Volts for the third year

794
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: a row? No? Okay, no way, Right, I think that

795
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: they were gonna fire love it. I mean love you

796
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: didn't create that roster that was given to chance. Yeah,

797
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think that you gotta do

798
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: something your position to get a quarterback this year? They

799
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Speaker 1: have two once, not like they got you know, they

800
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Speaker 1: got they got the second pick, and they got the

801
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: twelf pick, and they got picks all the way down.

802
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: They can trade picks to get the number one and

803
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: they still got a boat vote picks. Uh. Interesting, they

804
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: got more picks than I think they got like thirteen

805
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: fourteen pictures. Right, So why not grab as many players

806
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Speaker 1: as you can and then you know you're not gonna

807
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: be listen, c J. Strouding gonna get you to eight

808
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: wins next year? Right, that's not happening. It doesn't have

809
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 1: to happen in one year, right, so, but you gotta

810
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: you gotta build the foundation. I mean that kids, I

811
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Speaker 1: can't speak I can't speak for Nick to Saria. You know,

812
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: I know Nick, but I don't know them very well.

813
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Speaker 1: If you you're let's say you're on Nick staff Gren

814
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: and Nick says, you know, I got this guy pitching

815
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Speaker 1: me this crazy idea Breg that we don't take a

816
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the first three rounds. We load up on

817
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: positions and we're gonna stick next year. And that's fine

818
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: because we're going to be in the mix for the

819
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: number one pick the following year and maybe maybe the

820
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: best quarterback to come along since Trevor Lawrence is ours. Like,

821
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: if he told you that in your face to face

822
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: with him, what do you say? Now, you got to

823
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: obviously have job security to be able to pull this

824
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Speaker 1: off and sell it to the owner. But is that

825
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: something you can imagine anybody in an NFL front office set? Yeah,

826
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: I think in a in a real world you could

827
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: say that. What I think somebody would do it when

828
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: they've got the the wherewithal to improve this year they've

829
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: lost badly the last two years, to do it again?

830
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Speaker 1: What are you telling your fan base? You know, it's

831
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: it's really kind of a tough thing to answer. Fans

832
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: watch your to win. They're impatient, you know, and they

833
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: got an opportunity to do it and not have to

834
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Speaker 1: give up a lot, you know, for them to move

835
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Speaker 1: from two to one. In no way, it's just to

836
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Speaker 1: get the quarterback they want, no guy, Yeah, yeah, but

837
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Speaker 1: you know what it's going to cost them a second

838
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Speaker 1: round pick, their second round pick pick up the top.

839
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Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, we don't know who they're bidding against.

840
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: What if the Colts want to move up? Well yeah,

841
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: but you look at use the charts as the basis,

842
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: not the be all end of, but the basis to

843
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: four hundred. It's a four hundred point move from to

844
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Speaker 1: go from two to one. Their second round picks worth

845
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: five hundred and eighty points. So they're already paying a

846
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: premium of one hundred and eighty points to go from

847
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Speaker 1: two to one. Okay, and the Bears, why would they

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Speaker 1: say no to that because they're still getting the best

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Speaker 1: defensive player on their board, who they regard as the

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Speaker 1: best defensive player. And on top of that, they got

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Speaker 1: a high second round pick. They got like the second

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Speaker 1: pick in the second round. So how do you say

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Speaker 1: no to that, we're getting the guy we would have

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Speaker 1: taken them wanted to get it next to two? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that feels like a really dumb move for Houston because

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Speaker 1: I don't care who the quarterback is? Do you take?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Greg, are we in a loxcept that? None

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Speaker 1: of these guys and if you even want to talk

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Speaker 1: to Anthony Richardson in there you can, But none of

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Speaker 1: this guys, like the people would say, I like a

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Speaker 1: lot of bottle them except to start if I've heard,

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Speaker 1: but like great, it's just tough for me to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's get Stroud or let's get young. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: from I don't know what a date with three games,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go from three to six. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: picking six next year, and you know what, we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to get the best quarterback in the draft. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can answer it this way. Go back and Herbert

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Speaker 1: got drafted? What that they're six overall? Fair? If you

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Speaker 1: have to do it over where would you go? But

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Speaker 1: you don't get due overs and some of these guys,

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Speaker 1: And what the perception is now, what the perception is

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Speaker 1: a year from now or two years from Now, that's

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Speaker 1: an entirely different thing. Yeah, what matters. What matters is

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have an offensive coordinator that they hired Slowick

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Speaker 1: from from San Francisco. He's going to play into because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be takeing care of these quarterbacks. He's going

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Speaker 1: to play into the equation as far as his feeling,

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Speaker 1: what's Cassio's feeling, what's the personnel department as a whole feeling?

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Speaker 1: And Damik O'Ryan's he's a defensive coach. He's gonna go

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Speaker 1: with his offensive coordinator on that call. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he could say, no, I want I want Jalen

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Speaker 1: Carter or I want will Anderson. You know, he could

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Speaker 1: be lobbying for that. So yeah, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: really interesting dynamic and we can throw a lot of

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Speaker 1: darts at the wall over the period of the next

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Speaker 1: two months and who knows who's going to be right. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: it's funny, Greg, since you mentioned and I went to

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Speaker 1: look at twenty twenty four draft eligible quarterbacks, after Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams and Drake May, the best two guys. Quinn Youers

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Speaker 1: from Texas, who was a high school legend, went to

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Speaker 1: Ohio State then transferred back and il money he'll be eligible.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how you know, We don't

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Speaker 1: know how good he is. Uh. The kid Jordan Travis

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Speaker 1: at Florida State's kind of opening eyes. So you're right,

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Speaker 1: maybe one of those guys. It becomes like a Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert number five or six overall. I just And then

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Speaker 1: if you're doing that, you're essentially having wasted your number

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Speaker 1: one pick on a quarterback who is going to be

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Speaker 1: done after one year. I don't know. Team building is

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Speaker 1: so fascinating. But we've kept you long enough. Greg, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for the time. You know, keep up

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Speaker 1: the good work on the podcast and the writing, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for the insight. Oh, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it.