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Speaker 1: four o'clock. It's available at KFI amsix forty dot com,

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Speaker 1: also the iHeartRadio app. And in about fifteen minutes, John

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Speaker 1: and you'll have a chance of a thousand dollars the

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Speaker 1: to vote in November of twenty twenty four to block

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Speaker 1: It would require this proposition that the public approve of

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this before, but the news is that

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Speaker 1: it did qualify for next year's ballot. Signals were deemed

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Speaker 1: enough they're okay to put on the ballot. One point

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Speaker 1: four million signatures were collected. Sixteen million dollars was spent

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Speaker 1: as twenty twenty two into twenty twenty four. So let's

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Speaker 1: get to Carl Demon. He's with COGO Radio down in

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Speaker 1: San Diego and Reform California. Right, Carl, how are you, guys?

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Speaker 1: It's a good day. We're celebrating the hard work of

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Speaker 1: perhaps the most significant piece of taxpayer reform legislation in

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Speaker 1: California since nineteen seventy eight with Prop thirteen. That's how

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Speaker 1: big of a deal this thing is. One point four

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Speaker 1: like last summer, didn't you. We did? You know, we

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Speaker 1: We were okay with that, you know, because look, you know,

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Speaker 1: and now we're moving into the passage campaign. And this

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Speaker 1: more importantly, in addition to having a two thirds vote requirement,

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Speaker 1: it would require that the ballot titles for any tax measure,

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Speaker 1: All right, Carl, We're there for you, call having you

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Speaker 1: It is known as the California the Taxpayer Protection and

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Speaker 1: Government Accountability Act, And basically, you the voters can nix

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Speaker 1: And of course, says we talked about with the local taxes,

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Speaker 1: John and Ken KF I Am six forty Live everywhere

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Speaker 1: spending and as he puts it, per capita spending has doubled.

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Speaker 1: Where is it going? According to the reports downloaded from

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Speaker 1: the California Legislative Analyst Office, and after adjusting for inflation

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Speaker 1: eighty six. All right, We're gonna spend a few minutes

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Speaker 1: out of a friend of mine, Michelle Shane. Michelle and

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Speaker 1: his wife Ellen have run the Emily Shane Foundation for

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Speaker 1: a number of years. Michelle is in the movie business.

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Speaker 1: He's been the executive producer some big films like Catch

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Speaker 1: Me If You Can, if you remember that Leonardo DiCaprio film,

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Speaker 1: I Robot and others, And we're gonna get him on

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Speaker 1: the air in just a second. But just to briefly

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Speaker 1: run through the story here, Michelle and Ellen lost their

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Speaker 1: daughter Emily. Terrible story people in Malibu, I'm sure remember it.

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Speaker 1: She was waiting for a ride from her dad and

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Speaker 1: she was standing way off on the side of the

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Speaker 1: road at PC near an intersection when this crazy guy

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Speaker 1: who was zigzagging all over PCH he had just had

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Speaker 1: some blowout with his girlfriend and he was terrifying everyone

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Speaker 1: on PCH. There were numerous nine one one calls with

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Speaker 1: people saying, this guy's going to kill somebody, and unfortunately

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Speaker 1: he aimed his car at Emily. And after going through all,

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Speaker 1: you know, the grieving process, Michelle decided to do a

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Speaker 1: movie about the PC in Malibu called twenty one Miles

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Speaker 1: in Malibu, about how not only beautiful it is to

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Speaker 1: go down that road, but how dangerous it's been for

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Speaker 1: decades and how almost nothing is done about it. Twenty

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Speaker 1: one Miles in Malibu is going to premiere at the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three cent to Barbara International Film Michelle Shane

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Speaker 1: on Michelle, how are you great? Good to speak with you? Well,

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Speaker 1: you were on some years ago when we went through

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Speaker 1: the story about what happened to your daughter, and anybody

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Speaker 1: can look that up online if they want. What I

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Speaker 1: want to spend more time on. Now is this documentary

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Speaker 1: which talks a lot about what happened with your daughter

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Speaker 1: and really gives a historical perspective that I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize the rich history and the tragic history

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Speaker 1: of talk about what you discovered. So it's it was

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Speaker 1: really interesting discovery that you know, it's always been a

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Speaker 1: controversial place. And may Ringe's family basically owned Malibu and

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Speaker 1: she fought to keep it, how should I put it

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Speaker 1: to hers for lack of a better term, all the

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Speaker 1: way to the Supreme Corner of California, and they did

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Speaker 1: an incredible ruling where they said such beauties should not

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Speaker 1: belong to just one person and it should be open

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Speaker 1: to the public. And that was the first time that

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Speaker 1: a ruling like that had ever happened, And that kind

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Speaker 1: of opened the doorway to Malibu becoming what it is today.

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Speaker 1: That it started with a colony, which was a movie

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Speaker 1: was movie town, movie place where all the stars too

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Speaker 1: had places of their own. And then it grew from

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Speaker 1: there and was basically, you know, people realized the beauty

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Speaker 1: and loved once they could drive to come up to

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Speaker 1: Malibu and see the beauty. Right, So it used to

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Speaker 1: be private land, and this family fought very hard to

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Speaker 1: keep in private, Supreme Court said. Otherwise they put a

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Speaker 1: road through this road, it's brought all kinds of mayhem. Though.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean the road that we now travel

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Speaker 1: on PC hasn't really done anything to the road since

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Speaker 1: probably the fifties. And you know, maybe back then you

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Speaker 1: were talking about I don't know, twenty thousand people maybe

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Speaker 1: using the road any given time for a holiday or

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Speaker 1: something like that. Whereas now on a long weekend or

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Speaker 1: on a beautiful weekend, eight hundred thousand people coming out

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Speaker 1: to Malibu on a four lane highway two lanes east,

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Speaker 1: two lanes west, kind of you know, sitting on it

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Speaker 1: and driving in and out of it, and you know,

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Speaker 1: one lane gets shut down and then it gets backed

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Speaker 1: up or it gets closed down. It's just been horrific.

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Speaker 1: Either it's incredibly frustrating traffic or in the quieter times,

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Speaker 1: people drive like maniacs at insane speeds and it's terrifying. Yep.

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Speaker 1: And you've got a lot people crossing the street back

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Speaker 1: and forth because people park on both sides to get

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Speaker 1: to the beach and just randomly running to the road

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Speaker 1: or walk through the road one John. You know, I

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Speaker 1: call it the noise around PC. There's parking, there's bicycles,

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Speaker 1: there's people, there's people treating it like a road when

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Speaker 1: it's a highway, and you know, it's just a matter

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Speaker 1: of time until the next accident happens or the next

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Speaker 1: death happens, and it's just it's outrageous. And what Emily's death.

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Speaker 1: I was always aware of it. I had two other

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Speaker 1: children that learned to drive on that road, so I

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Speaker 1: was always petrified about the road and what could happen

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Speaker 1: on it. But when Emily died, I became very aware

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Speaker 1: of all the deaths and accidents that were happening, and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't stand it. And being a filmmaker, I just

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Speaker 1: figured that that was the best way I could tell

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Speaker 1: the story and get people angry, because it's the type

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Speaker 1: of thing that you need a ground swell. It's got

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Speaker 1: to come from the bottom up to create the change

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Speaker 1: that needs to happen to make this a safer place.

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Speaker 1: And there's limited change. You know, you got mountains and ocean.

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Yeah, I had I had

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Speaker 1: no idea about the carnage that was on I mean,

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Speaker 1: it felt dangerous you know, I was aware of occasionally

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Speaker 1: accidents that would I would make make the news and

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Speaker 1: tragedies like what you're happy to your daughter, But I

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Speaker 1: just had no idea. I mean, you have you interview

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Speaker 1: I believe a surf shop owner in it and he

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Speaker 1: said he's seen nine yea fatal crashes from his front

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Speaker 1: door of his surf shop over the years. Yeah, zoom

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Speaker 1: and Jaggy was also a former mayor of Malibu. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we spoke to him. We spoke to a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of it didn't make it into

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Speaker 1: the them obviously, but it's it's really quite incredible. And

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Speaker 1: that five years ago they did a study, and you know,

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Speaker 1: every time there's a new political body in charge, they

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Speaker 1: wanted to do a study to figure out what they

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Speaker 1: should do. So they get a study that came up

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Speaker 1: with I think it was fifty four points to make

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Speaker 1: pH safer, and here we are six years later, zero

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Speaker 1: zero has been implemented. That part made me mad because

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Speaker 1: it was just typical. Yeah, yeah, big Blue Ribbon Commission study.

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Speaker 1: They got fifty four or so recommendations, none of them pass,

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Speaker 1: nothing changes, and you couldn't get colch Trance to talk

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Speaker 1: about this. They gave you no comment. Oh no, it

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Speaker 1: was worse. It was pure lip service and bs and listen.

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Speaker 1: The problem with PC is you have a city that

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Speaker 1: wants to change. You'll have a road that's owned by

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Speaker 1: run by the state and of course federal, and there's

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Speaker 1: just no way. Caltran's job is to move you from

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Speaker 1: point A to point be as fast as possible, not

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Speaker 1: as safe as possible, as fast as possible, so they

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear anything in between. All right. So

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be in the twenty twenty three Santa Barbara

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Speaker 1: International Film Festival, and that's opening very soon, right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: It opens next week I think either Sunday or Monday,

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Speaker 1: and then runs through next weekend. Then we're premiering on

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Speaker 1: the sixteenth and eighteenth. Up there, okay, here, and I

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Speaker 1: hope this eventually comes to a streaming service because everybody

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Speaker 1: ought to see it. It's very powerful, very moving. We're looking, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're looking for distribution and yeah, I'm very proud of it.

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy with what came out. You should be No,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's very informative, and it's also very moving.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one Miles in Malibu. Michelle Shane, it's up at

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Speaker 1: the Santa Barbara Film Festival if you're in that area

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Speaker 1: over the next week. Michelle, thanks very much, Thank you. John,

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Speaker 1: all right, talk to you soon, all right, Mark coming up,

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Speaker 1: John and Ken Show and deber Mark Live in the

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