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Speaker 1: He's Talking Cowboys, Cowboys Star and now your OSTs Isiah
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Speaker 1: from the SWBC studios at the Star in Frisco with
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand Back. We've got Patrick No c Walker, Chris
Speaker 1: Beam in the backup Kyle Yeomans as we continue to
Speaker 1: get you up through the Cowboys off season. Yea hey,
Speaker 1: that sounds familiar. Can we can we hear that one
Speaker 1: more time? Yeah, it's Chrisp. It's Crisp. We got Rodeose
Speaker 1: in Rodeose and let's stats and sponsor h I am
Speaker 1: for that for that. I went. I went to Luke
Speaker 1: Combs at at and T Stadium and it was so good.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm very broad with my music. I
Speaker 1: just love music in general. I'll listen a little bit
Speaker 1: of everything, so Luke Combs and and really I haven't
Speaker 1: started listening to Luke Combs until the last about about
Speaker 1: a year, and he's really really good. I went to
Speaker 1: that concert. He was fantastic. The stadium was gorgeous, it
Speaker 1: was packed, it was loud, it was energetic, a lot
Speaker 1: of really really good show, lots of fun stuff. At
Speaker 1: at you found out why people loved Luke's exactly. Yeah
Speaker 1: he was. He was really good. Yeah, really good. And
Speaker 1: I was the reason. I say that because I was
Speaker 1: sad because I didn't have a cowboy hat to work.
Speaker 1: I didn't have the western hat. I'm I'm a born
Speaker 1: and raised Texan. Stet born and raised Texan. You have boots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have boots, and I wore the boots. Okay, the
Speaker 1: boots he just did. He just didn't have the hat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were telling us in your head. Next, I do
Speaker 1: have a stets and hat, but it was its lord
Speaker 1: to the show one. Yeah that was not. That one
Speaker 1: was not a sesting. I do have a stetsin tho. Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah that one was not. The stetson looks way better. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to see this alleged states and oh it's
Speaker 1: it's nice. Yeah. Next, he almost were for pregame, but
Speaker 1: we had headsets on. If we next, we would have
Speaker 1: had it outside, but it wouldn't work. Stessing you guys,
Speaker 1: hear that we're all for it. We're here. I think
Speaker 1: I think I'm the only one on this show that
Speaker 1: hasn't worn a cowboy hat because yeah, I was wearing
Speaker 1: Victory Mondays. I was wearing for Victory Mondays. But that
Speaker 1: was the that was the Ford Brandon one shouts out
Speaker 1: the Ford. Yeah, um, you know that. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I need an actual because I've been I've been in
Speaker 1: Texas long enough. And for those that don't know, and
Speaker 1: I don't know how you couldn't know, I am. I'm
Speaker 1: a boy to Bridge, Georgia boy. But I've been in
Speaker 1: Texas about half a decade. Now it's time for some
Speaker 1: some boots, adopted stuts. You're adopted. Yeah, it's time with
Speaker 1: some boots and the Stitts. I agree, I agree, it's time.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, now that we've gotten that out of
Speaker 1: the way, And for those of you who don't don't know,
Speaker 1: that was Isaiah in the Yeehaw and it was from
Speaker 1: our last episode where we had a lot of fun,
Speaker 1: so you should go back and listen to that one
Speaker 1: as well. I also made a joke in that that
Speaker 1: episode that nothing's gonna happen between now and then We're
Speaker 1: gonna have nothing to talk about coming into this Tuesday
Speaker 1: from a transaction standpoint. I was joking, but nothing has
Speaker 1: happened in terms of the Cowboys transactionally well true, but
Speaker 1: it's hirely true. That's kind of where I'm leading. Entirely true. Okay,
Speaker 1: So it was a note what would Rob do and
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it how Rob would do on WrestleMania
Speaker 1: week with coming up coming off the top rope with
Speaker 1: news and notes. So I can't recall if we mentioned this,
Speaker 1: but mentioned it just as a fail safe. Dante Fowler
Speaker 1: back in the building on a one year deal. That's
Speaker 1: an underrated and probably underappreciated resigning by most Cowboys fans.
Speaker 1: But for those that know, no, Dante Fowler absolutely had
Speaker 1: a resurgent year his first season reuniting with Dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: Obviously they spent time together with the Atlanta Falcons. That's good.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, speaking from the owners meetings, the league meetings,
Speaker 1: I should say, in Phoenix on yesterday, yesterday being Monday,
Speaker 1: said that there has been quote unquote progress towards the
Speaker 1: resigning of Jonathan Hankins. That will be huge pun intended
Speaker 1: if they can get Jonathan Hankins back on the contract,
Speaker 1: So good news for the Cowboys fans. There it is
Speaker 1: in the works. It looks like it could happen. Fingers
Speaker 1: crossed that it does. Stephen Jones yesterday evening from the
Speaker 1: same league meetings in Phoenix, said that not only do
Speaker 1: the Cowboys want Hankins, but they want Carlos Watkins as well,
Speaker 1: another underrated, unheralded guy who did some great things for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Dan Quinn in twenty twenty two. So
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are actively working on both Hankins and Watkins
Speaker 1: returning to the Ross tension. Yeah, fantastic because there you go.
Speaker 1: As far as those who are hoping that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: shore up that run defense, it begins, for my money,
Speaker 1: it begins with keeping Jonathan Hankins in the building and
Speaker 1: then building out from that Carlos Watkins as some other
Speaker 1: guys like Quentin behinded to step up, Chauncey Ghost and
Speaker 1: you saw what osa Odigize was able to do, and
Speaker 1: that's kind of what we talked about in the last show.
Speaker 1: We talked about Hankins specifically, and what he does so
Speaker 1: well is allow for the guys around him to play free.
Speaker 1: Absolutely and Isaiah, you broke it down on film room.
Speaker 1: At one point throughout the season. When there are other players,
Speaker 1: these these big nose tackles, these big beefy guys on
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, they're getting either pushed back or
Speaker 1: they're staying still. Jonathan Hankins wasn't getting pushed back or
Speaker 1: standing still. He was moving forward. In the comparison to
Speaker 1: that was done Terry Pole. Yeah right, that was that
Speaker 1: was the That's who was supposed to be Hankins. Hankins,
Speaker 1: absolutely right. So if you Cowboys Nation, if you guys
Speaker 1: remember done Terry Pole, right, we appreciate his services, but
Speaker 1: he's own and gone gone now, Okay, he was going
Speaker 1: backwards or lateral, okay. You don't want a large human
Speaker 1: being who's meant to his sole role is to clog
Speaker 1: up the holes, okay, and force the offensive players to
Speaker 1: run around him or your defensive guys to be able
Speaker 1: to flow through the lanes without being uninhibited. Right, don
Speaker 1: Terry Pole was getting pushed backwards okay, and sometimes sideways okay,
Speaker 1: So he was causing greater holes for the offensive player.
Speaker 1: Contrary to that. Now, all of a sudden, you have
Speaker 1: a big Jonathan Hankins who comes in and obviously comes forward.
Speaker 1: So now he's literally moving the line of scrimmage in
Speaker 1: the direction that is advantageous to your defense. That allows
Speaker 1: not only for two guys and now have to try
Speaker 1: to stick on one guy. So you're taking two of
Speaker 1: the five offensive linement and isolating them to that one
Speaker 1: player on your defense. But what does that do to
Speaker 1: your linebackers? Now your linebackers all of a sudden, now
Speaker 1: they can see clear I can see clearly right now,
Speaker 1: the linebackers can see clearly. Okay, it's important and I
Speaker 1: always relate it back to the times when when Ray
Speaker 1: Right you talk about big Ray Lewis, you talk about
Speaker 1: some of the some of the greatest linebackers in history
Speaker 1: had big horses in front of them. They had dudes
Speaker 1: that were able to clog up those Because those those
Speaker 1: holes and allow for these guys to free flow. Not
Speaker 1: only can they run through, but they can see clear
Speaker 1: right and they can make moves, they can make their
Speaker 1: their proper adjustments necessary to go out there and go
Speaker 1: and make a big play for attackle for a loss
Speaker 1: or or no no yardage at all. So would have
Speaker 1: a clear eye view at that point, I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: go there. I made that mistake one time, so I
Speaker 1: mean that's important. So I hope I hope there goes
Speaker 1: a h word again that they could bring Big Jonathan
Speaker 1: Hankins back and then add on to it because what
Speaker 1: we saw last year, as impactful as he was in
Speaker 1: that role, when he was gone due to injury, it
Speaker 1: was a void. Yeah oh yeah, right. The best case
Speaker 1: scenario for Dallas is to obviously retain him because you
Speaker 1: have the sure thing, and then try to redo what
Speaker 1: they what they rolled the dice on last year. Right
Speaker 1: last year, they they brought in uh help me, help
Speaker 1: me with the name who on the defensive line? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who they who they draft? Who they drafted? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. H Yeah, sorry, Big John Ridgeway.
Speaker 1: They tried this last year. So let's let's let's not
Speaker 1: say the front office didn't do their job. That might
Speaker 1: have been tried. They might have gotten rid of him
Speaker 1: a little bit too soon, maybe a little bit too what.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that, because the roster was
Speaker 1: they were they didn't want to let go a John. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we and we spoke about it at the time.
Speaker 1: It was a pure numbers game. Absolutely, they took the
Speaker 1: risk in thinking that Ridgeway clear waivers and they could
Speaker 1: get him back on the practice squad commanders were like, no,
Speaker 1: they So the Cowboys were actually upset that they lost Ridgeway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't played well last year. He did play well for
Speaker 1: Washington last year. He went to a D line university,
Speaker 1: okay out there in Washington and they they're utilizing him.
Speaker 1: But to your point, that was a numbers game. So
Speaker 1: the front office tried to address this last year. It's
Speaker 1: just that at that point in time in his development,
Speaker 1: they couldn't afford to roll the dice and risk whether
Speaker 1: he was going to develop or not develop for the
Speaker 1: guys that they had on the defensive line that were
Speaker 1: sure things at that point in time. So I think
Speaker 1: that they're going to try to address it again, but
Speaker 1: they need to find out where they're at, numbers wise
Speaker 1: in each position when the votes well for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That as we have this conversation now where on the
Speaker 1: second day of Week three or free agency and Jonathan
Speaker 1: Hankins it's still a free agent, which tells me that
Speaker 1: there is mutual interests, not obviously not only from the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: but Jonathan Hankins has interests in returning to the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and as these days progress, you know, business wise, the
Speaker 1: price just becomes more and more flexible, I should say.
Speaker 1: So that works in the Cowboys favor and that's why
Speaker 1: I think that this deal gets done. Knock on wood.
Speaker 1: And you got to think about the timing of how
Speaker 1: those events conspired last year, because you had you had
Speaker 1: the first release rather or whenever the waiver pickup was
Speaker 1: there for John Ridgeway, that's when you lost Ridgeway. Then
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later is when you traded for Hankins.
Speaker 1: So there was a void there for a little bit
Speaker 1: right where there was nothing up front, and you could
Speaker 1: see it on the defensive line that you could see
Speaker 1: how much that was. So you've seen it all three ways.
Speaker 1: You've seen it with a young developmental prospect with John
Speaker 1: Ridgeway throughout the early parts of training camp, preseason, early
Speaker 1: parts of the season. Then you saw him without one
Speaker 1: of those big hog Miley's upfront, and then you turned
Speaker 1: it around you added Jonathan Hankins, and then you saw
Speaker 1: it without Jonathan Hankins whenever he was injured last year
Speaker 1: as well, go get you a big guy in the middle,
Speaker 1: go get you one. Let's do it for the biggest both. Sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh I was about to say hold up, Sorry guys,
Speaker 1: somebody went full of rows. All right. So to a
Speaker 1: lesser but also intriguing note in news and notes, we
Speaker 1: have Jersey assignments. Okay, So Chimney Dolga offensive lineman recently
Speaker 1: signed last week, I should say he has been a
Speaker 1: sign number seventy one. Ronald Jones, two times Super Bowl
Speaker 1: winning running back, has been a signed number thirty two.
Speaker 1: And here's where he gets spicy. So Brandon Cooks, first
Speaker 1: of all, has been a signed number three for those
Speaker 1: that know, that number belonged to Anthony Brown. Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: remains a free agent at the moment, still recovering from
Speaker 1: his injury. This doesn't this doesn't necessarily mean that Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown why not be back, But the Cowboys are taking
Speaker 1: a real cautious approach on that because again, he is
Speaker 1: recovering from a recent injury that he suffered. And we'll
Speaker 1: see how it goes. But put an asterisk next to that,
Speaker 1: and what I'm about to say next, because I need
Speaker 1: to explain the asterisk the footnote. Stefan Gilmore has been
Speaker 1: a signed number twenty one ladies and gentle win number twenty.
Speaker 1: I'm sign one more time. Stefani Gilmore has been assigned
Speaker 1: number twenty one if any Dallas Cowboy being a signed
Speaker 1: number twenty one. But but okay, that's a cold world.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so this is a cold, cold world. There
Speaker 1: are no twofold on this one. On one note, that
Speaker 1: stings because the body's not cold yet. On another note,
Speaker 1: it's kind of exciting from the cornerback position because the
Speaker 1: last most impactful. I mean, you could talk about some
Speaker 1: guys who had some impact like a Mike Jenkins and
Speaker 1: m pac Mann on the field when in his short
Speaker 1: time with the Cowboys. But Dion coach Prime, Yes, that's
Speaker 1: what I was going. You're right, Coach. You gotta Dallas
Speaker 1: cornerback wearing twenty one. And it's not like it's a
Speaker 1: rookie wearing twenty one that needs to prove himself like
Speaker 1: Mike Jenkins came out the league and got the tw No. No, no,
Speaker 1: no no. This is a former NFL Defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year. This is a first team All Pro. This
Speaker 1: is a multi time Pro bowler who's coming to Cowboys
Speaker 1: and he's now putting on Dion's former number, that that
Speaker 1: just markets itself. So that's the exciting part of it.
Speaker 1: But the bitter sweet part, the bitter part of the
Speaker 1: suite is most certainly that that number belonged to Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott for seven years and now belongs to Stefan Gilmour.
Speaker 1: So of course that leads everyone to question and does
Speaker 1: that absolutely close the duel on Ezekiel Elliott. Well, gosh darnet.
Speaker 1: That takes me to the next piece of news. Wow,
Speaker 1: here's the top rope from the news, and I was
Speaker 1: talking about Jerry Jones said the door is not closed
Speaker 1: on possibly reuniting with Ezekiel Elliott for the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three seasons. A barn door. So for those that are
Speaker 1: keeping for those that are keeping track Ezekiel Elliott's he's
Speaker 1: gone an interest from several teams and I know there
Speaker 1: are reports that you know the teams that he has
Speaker 1: interest and and trust me, there are more teams since
Speaker 1: being reported, but I'll keep that off the air. And
Speaker 1: the teams that were I will say the teams that
Speaker 1: were reported as having interest, those that was an accurate report.
Speaker 1: So those teams that are now circling back, saying, oh no,
Speaker 1: we don't that they're playing the game. They don't want
Speaker 1: other teams to know they're in on a particular player.
Speaker 1: That's how you get the price down as opposed to
Speaker 1: driving the price up. So that game is going to
Speaker 1: play out how it plays out. But as long as
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott remains a free agent, there remains a growing chance,
Speaker 1: even if it's from small to less than small, to
Speaker 1: list and lest us well. Jerry Jones said the door
Speaker 1: is not closed until he signs with another team. M
Speaker 1: So I know what you're thinking, because I was thinking
Speaker 1: it too. Yeah, if the Cowboys were to reunite with
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, his number is going well. Ezekiel Elliott took
Speaker 1: the Twitter last week and said that he wants his
Speaker 1: Ohio state number fifteen back, So it has if it happens,
Speaker 1: if if the planet's aligned and Ezekiel Elliott is back,
Speaker 1: And of course that kind of goes in the face
Speaker 1: of logic with you haven't signed Ronald Jones and brought
Speaker 1: Rico Dowdo back, and you'll probably draft a guy if
Speaker 1: all logic is defied post release and the Cowboys bring
Speaker 1: him back and say, you know what, we actually don't
Speaker 1: need to salary cap money anymore savings anymore. We'll just
Speaker 1: eat that, okay, Oh no, the smaller deal. Maybe he
Speaker 1: pays Will Greer to come up off that one five.
Speaker 1: Yeah he might, and then there you go. But this
Speaker 1: is a very intriguing situation going on here. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is this is fun. This is fun. I kind
Speaker 1: of not the released part. I said this initially. I
Speaker 1: said there's a there's always a possibility, and even Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy kind of alluded to it in his interview yesterday.
Speaker 1: He said, you never want to shut the door. You
Speaker 1: never want to burn bridges on things like this. Even
Speaker 1: if Ezekiel Elliott doesn't return for the twenty twenty three season,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's out of the question that he
Speaker 1: is done as a Dallas count because he's got some
Speaker 1: years left, he's got he's got an opportunity to come
Speaker 1: back at some point. I just think the money has
Speaker 1: to be right in order for that to happen. We'll
Speaker 1: see what what his money would look like if they
Speaker 1: were to get to that point. Here's Jerry's exact quote
Speaker 1: on the matter. A reworked deal was on the table,
Speaker 1: and you might say that to some degree that hasn't changed,
Speaker 1: and it won't until he signed some place else. End quote.
Speaker 1: So basically saying we're here if you want to come back. Basically,
Speaker 1: we're here if yeah, everything, if nothing goes the way
Speaker 1: you would like, or if you don't like the way
Speaker 1: the market is shaping up, Hey we come home. They'll
Speaker 1: have a seat for you. We'll work out that one
Speaker 1: five and there you go. Now, obviously, if you're Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: that you have you know, you really have some decisions
Speaker 1: to make as far as what's best for the next
Speaker 1: stage of your career, because logistically, speaking from a player standpoint,
Speaker 1: what are you walking back into as Ezekiel Elliot. You're
Speaker 1: walking back into a situation where now it's clearly Pollarts throne.
Speaker 1: It's no longer you're throne. Even if you are to return,
Speaker 1: it's no longer you're throwne. It's Polart's throne at least
Speaker 1: from now. And now you have to figure out, well,
Speaker 1: where do you fall in the hierarchy with the cowboys
Speaker 1: adding Ronald Jones, and is your deal going to be
Speaker 1: equal to Ronald Jones a little bit lesser, etc. So financially,
Speaker 1: you might not have the leverage to kind of get
Speaker 1: pushed for those snaps on the field. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a murky situation from the Ezekiel Elliot standpoint, but
Speaker 1: it's not less murky from a Cowboys standpoint because again,
Speaker 1: as the team, if you're looking at it from a
Speaker 1: GM standpoint, you just brought in a guy like you
Speaker 1: release this guy. Brought in a guy because you released
Speaker 1: this guy and this guy that you brought in is
Speaker 1: less expensive, and now you're going to circle back to
Speaker 1: that guy. But is that going to cause you to
Speaker 1: at least this guy? So competition is wonderful. We wanted
Speaker 1: at all positions, um except quarterback, you know when, because
Speaker 1: Dak is dead right and there is competition there. But
Speaker 1: for the most part, if Zeke were to come back,
Speaker 1: he would still be the number two guy. Would he
Speaker 1: would He would definitely be the number two guy. But
Speaker 1: I don't see Zie coming back. I don't either. I
Speaker 1: see him, I see him leaving. I think he for
Speaker 1: Super for a quote unquote Super Bowl and legitimate proven
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And if if I'm putting myself in Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott's shoes, I want to prove something. I want to
Speaker 1: show everybody, including the Cowboys, the oranization that you might
Speaker 1: have given up on me a little bit too soon. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: So I really want to go to that situation where
Speaker 1: I'm guaranteed one A or one B have a shot,
Speaker 1: a real shot of the ring. That's the only move.
Speaker 1: There's a There's not a long list of teams exactly
Speaker 1: that outside of the team that he was already on,
Speaker 1: there's have a better roster. I can tell you what's
Speaker 1: about that. It's not just about the roster. It's not
Speaker 1: just about the Rocks, right, It's about It's about the quarterback,
Speaker 1: no doubt. It's about the quarterback, and it's about the
Speaker 1: organization and what they've done over the last hand a
Speaker 1: couple of years. If you have had to put money
Speaker 1: on it, what do you think he lands Casey? Okay,
Speaker 1: I was thinking since that money, but there no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying reports notwithstanding yeah, the Jersey. You think about
Speaker 1: it from an analyst and a former player standpoint. As
Speaker 1: the landscape is right now, you got teams like Casey,
Speaker 1: the Jets. I'm not going to entertain that Eagle's nonsense.
Speaker 1: They got shot opinion, it's Casey or Cincinnati. I think
Speaker 1: he fits better in Cincinnati's think New York's in that conversation,
Speaker 1: the Jets are in the conversation. For me, I'm I
Speaker 1: think it's Sinsey. It just makes too much sense, not
Speaker 1: only logistically, but it's poetic. Right. This is an Ohio
Speaker 1: state kid, right who wants to go back to his
Speaker 1: Ohio state number. And if he gets that in Ohio
Speaker 1: with Joe, with Joe Burrow, I agree, yeah, and Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon and you got Jamar Chay stretching the field, you
Speaker 1: got tight end weapons. It's rebuilding. I totally agree. I
Speaker 1: believe that Cincinnati is the best situation. But I do
Speaker 1: think that the dark horse is Casey. It's okay because
Speaker 1: okay with that because they've done that too. They have
Speaker 1: a track record of doing that. Yes they do. And
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get the money he wants anywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's lay that on the tape, no doubt. So
Speaker 1: if he's not gonna get the money he wants anywhere,
Speaker 1: most people are like, what, you just come back home.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, that's coming home. That's a slap in
Speaker 1: the face almost you know, it's to him. So it's
Speaker 1: like if he's gonna do it. It's gonna be with
Speaker 1: a team that has literally over the last few years,
Speaker 1: Casey Cincinnati had a shot at winning a dog on
Speaker 1: ring and that's the only way I see it. I
Speaker 1: don't see him going to the Jets. It's too much,
Speaker 1: too much in air, there's too much flex, it's too
Speaker 1: much dramas, there's a lot going on. He don't even
Speaker 1: have the quarterback on the contract yet. So I see
Speaker 1: it being one of those two teams, Casey or Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: with Cincinnati being the best situation. I do think either
Speaker 1: one it's a win win. Yeah, you go with since here,
Speaker 1: you go with Casey. If those are two of your options. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's as simple as you go. You sign that
Speaker 1: one year deal with one of those proven potentially get
Speaker 1: a ring. True, you still got a ton of trail
Speaker 1: left on the tires, your back of free agency a
Speaker 1: year from now, and now you get to demand a
Speaker 1: little bit higher salary. We didn't really get to hit
Speaker 1: on Zeke a whole lot last week because there were
Speaker 1: so many different things that happened along the way. When
Speaker 1: we come back, I want to quickly give our favorite
Speaker 1: Zeke memory or we had I like it throughout his
Speaker 1: time as a cowboy. But we're also going to take
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Speaker 1: I sayah, stand back, Patrick nose Walker. I'm Kyle Yeoman's
Speaker 1: all right favorite Zeke memory. Patrick will let you start in,
Speaker 1: then Isaiah will give us his There's so many and
Speaker 1: had a news and notes? Do you want to do that?
Speaker 1: Like right off the top? I didn't know. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: do it. What's your news note? Come on? We on
Speaker 1: what's going with it? News and notes today from Stanbackville.
Speaker 1: Oh god, this is my ten year anniversary. Hey, five
Speaker 1: year five, So shout out to my wife and Natalie
Speaker 1: she's always listening to ten ye anniversary. Thanks for ten
Speaker 1: he congratulations, thank you both of you. You get a
Speaker 1: Roxbury here. Yes, he's been a busy week. Was about
Speaker 1: to say the kiddos turn nine yesterday. Well, my daughter
Speaker 1: was not. His birthday was last Tuesday, last time we
Speaker 1: had the show. She turned eleven. Wow. My twins turn
Speaker 1: nine yesterday and in our ten year anniversaries today. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's time. And then we have a party for my business.
Speaker 1: Is my business ten year anniversary is this weekend? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot going. Yeah, And when you said that
Speaker 1: going on, that's what I was thinking, because I'm going
Speaker 1: to the party, so I'll be there the wife. The
Speaker 1: wife and I have been rocking for ten years. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's congratulations. That's awesome. Mega congrats, especially in you know,
Speaker 1: today's world where it's just getting harder and harder seeing
Speaker 1: relationships last. So just fantastic. But my daughter and you're
Speaker 1: still getting My daughter's like, so I'm eleven and you
Speaker 1: guys been married for ten years. I'm like, yeah, next topic,
Speaker 1: let's move on your notice, Like you know what it's
Speaker 1: like this math thing? Ain't math started telling her the
Speaker 1: way She's like, but uh, so you start yours when
Speaker 1: we when we hit in our ten year Yeah, that's true,
Speaker 1: May May seventh. Oh it's my it's bar Bro. I'm
Speaker 1: shark fitting that on that hell shit, man, uh, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say that. Say, I'm not gonna sell that
Speaker 1: out there, all right, All right, there we go back
Speaker 1: to his favorite Zeke memory. Go Um, it's easy to
Speaker 1: go with any one of the hurdles, and you know,
Speaker 1: the one in Philadelphia certainly comes to mind, because that
Speaker 1: was just magnificent. Would have been any even better if
Speaker 1: the turf Monster didn't get him right after. I'm going
Speaker 1: with against the Pittsburgh Steelers, the walk off Tuddy against
Speaker 1: the Steelers right up the a gap burst of speed
Speaker 1: into the end zone at Hinesfield, which is what it
Speaker 1: was named at the time, ball game for me, that
Speaker 1: was that was magnificent. So a lot to choose from.
Speaker 1: But I'm going with Zeke versus the Steelers walk off tuddy. Okay,
Speaker 1: very nice. I say I'm gonna go Zeke versus the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers when he hopped in the Salvation army bucket. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my favorite. I liked that a lot. Nice Lord
Speaker 1: Jack in the box there that was good. And you
Speaker 1: know what made that even better. What makes that better
Speaker 1: is the fact that he was when he was fined
Speaker 1: for it, he matched the NFL's fine in your face
Speaker 1: set that to charity to the Salvation Army and then
Speaker 1: it created this, uh, this whirlwind of Donatians and I
Speaker 1: think that like a month's time, Salvation Army got like
Speaker 1: two over two million dollars worth it. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it was like the most that they've had from like
Speaker 1: an outside to make that even better, in your face face, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really good. I liked against the Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: when he brought broke out the Dak touchdown dance. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone against the Lions
Speaker 1: when he was doing a little hip hip motion there.
Speaker 1: I also, I think my favorite one outside of the
Speaker 1: ones that you mentioned though, just another one to add
Speaker 1: was when he capped off the touchdown drive when Dat
Speaker 1: got hurt in Week five against the Giants in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: where he came back down the field and then ran
Speaker 1: into the end zone and as soon as he went
Speaker 1: to the camera, he held up the four and it
Speaker 1: was just kind of it was very reflective, like the
Speaker 1: sun was in the background. You could kind of see
Speaker 1: the rays coming put it was. It was at the moment. Now,
Speaker 1: the season didn't turn out the way that anybody wanted.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted Dak to get hurt like that, but the
Speaker 1: fact that they capped off the game, they won the game,
Speaker 1: and they capped it off with his he touched where
Speaker 1: he was able to hold up the four. That that was.
Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite moments of Simate team go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So best of luck to Zeke. We never, like I said,
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to talk about it last week.
Speaker 1: We wanted to at least hit on it this week.
Speaker 1: All right, we'd taken your calls eight eight, eight, five,
Speaker 1: two two nine seven, give us a call. Let's hear
Speaker 1: about what you feel like has gone right, what has
Speaker 1: gone wrong for the Cowboys offseason. We're taking those calls now,
Speaker 1: starting with Bob and the Rio Grand Valley. You're on
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys Morning guys, Good morning. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: We kind of hit the ground running here in free agency.
Speaker 1: I could not see more proud of that Cowboys front
Speaker 1: office and the job that they've done. It's I like
Speaker 1: a lot of you and a lot of fans. I'm shocked.
Speaker 1: This is totally out of character, but it's something that
Speaker 1: needed to be done. And Patrick, you stole my thunder, buddy,
Speaker 1: would a dude today when Zeke jumped and that yeah
Speaker 1: army cattle against Tampa Bay. And let me tell you
Speaker 1: what that the guy started the ground swell for a
Speaker 1: great organization and raising money. And I tell my fondest
Speaker 1: memory of Zeke will be him staking his head deacon
Speaker 1: out that barrel like a little bit of el you know,
Speaker 1: like a little bit tvous kid. That was wonderful. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. If looking forward to a
Speaker 1: great year. Y'all have a good day. Thanks, appreciate you, Bob,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Hey, that's awesome. Isaiah stole his thunder,
Speaker 1: but we'll give him credit. That was That's a good
Speaker 1: way to put it. He was like a little mischievous kid,
Speaker 1: That's what it was. He's like, okay, here we are, yeah,
Speaker 1: very nice, all right, continue give us a call eight
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. When
Speaker 1: you're looking at Ronald Jones, we haven't actually hit on
Speaker 1: him just yet, but what what kind of role do
Speaker 1: you expect him to fill in this current team? Is
Speaker 1: he a straight RB two or is he competing with
Speaker 1: guys like Malik Davis, Rico Dowdle. He's a RB two,
Speaker 1: He's he's a he's a straight, he's a short yardage
Speaker 1: a guy, and he's a protect Dack's back guy. Because
Speaker 1: I think the front office realizes that Tony Pollard is
Speaker 1: really good at what he does, but don't ask him
Speaker 1: to do anything outside of himself, meaning he you're losing
Speaker 1: arguably the league's best blocking running back by letting Zeke
Speaker 1: go right. Yeah, that's so. I think Ronald Jones now
Speaker 1: fulfills that role in terms of having somebody back there
Speaker 1: that could actually pass protect out of the backfield that's
Speaker 1: not a tight end, as well as a short yardage
Speaker 1: back who can go up there and take the brutality
Speaker 1: that it takes sometimes for that short yardage. You don't
Speaker 1: want to ask TP just because he's capable of getting
Speaker 1: short yardage, you know, you don't want to ask him
Speaker 1: to do that every single time. I'd rather bring a
Speaker 1: big boy back there to go ahead and barrel his
Speaker 1: head in between a lineman and get those short yardage,
Speaker 1: then the sideline giving slap on the butt, and then
Speaker 1: bring TP back in. That's the relationship. And I think
Speaker 1: that's the ask by this front office and the coaching
Speaker 1: staff of Ronald Jones. Yeah, I mean long and short
Speaker 1: of it. That's that's the science behind the move. Ronald
Speaker 1: Jones is going to be looked upon as a less
Speaker 1: expensive Ezekiel Elliot as far as Roller is concerned. Um.
Speaker 1: He himself when in the conversation that we had with
Speaker 1: him on signing day, um he said that he's he
Speaker 1: brings power and he's a change of pace back and
Speaker 1: that's what the Cowboys are gonna need. They're gonna need
Speaker 1: that short y'all. Just guy, that bigger body got to
Speaker 1: get in there. Uh you know, get that third and short,
Speaker 1: fourth and short, because yes can well can Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: get that? Yes he can? But you would rather not
Speaker 1: put that kind of brutality on Pollard if you do,
Speaker 1: in fact have quote unquote big plans for Polar going forward,
Speaker 1: like Jerry Jones said a couple of weeks ago. And
Speaker 1: also keep in mind, Tony Pollard is coming off of
Speaker 1: a fractured leg, so I don't believe that that's going
Speaker 1: to impact his style of play in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: But from a medical standpoint, you want your franchise guy
Speaker 1: who's coming off of a broken leg to be in
Speaker 1: that scrum on fourth and one third and one third
Speaker 1: and two. No, you want to get a change of
Speaker 1: pace guy. And that's what I think Rojoe brings to
Speaker 1: the table. Oh well, in addition to the fact he's
Speaker 1: got two rings and every team he signs with winds
Speaker 1: a ring, So there's that good Mojos and that's I mean,
Speaker 1: They're they're adding guys who have ring. Hence, Also, I
Speaker 1: think that this front office, aside from being aggressive, which
Speaker 1: is out of character for them, the one thing that
Speaker 1: I really like that they're doing right now is they're
Speaker 1: being very strategic about having guys fulfill roles. That that's
Speaker 1: what they do, and I think that is very much
Speaker 1: soul coming off of the back of mister dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn brings you on this roster and he says,
Speaker 1: you know what, Kyle, you rush the passer. Really well,
Speaker 1: that's all I need you to do, and that's what
Speaker 1: I'll do, and that's what you'll do. Right I'm not
Speaker 1: asking you to play forty snaps. I need you to
Speaker 1: give me the best fifteen snaps you can and I
Speaker 1: need you to go balls to the wall on it, right,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking you to do. And there they
Speaker 1: found out that that works defensively. Right, guys are not
Speaker 1: being asked to do things outside of themselves. Just do
Speaker 1: what do what you do really well, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: your musician to be successful. And now you're starting to
Speaker 1: see that really transition into all aspects of this roster.
Speaker 1: Guys are now being placed in positions to say, hey,
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones, short yardage and protect the protect dacks back.
Speaker 1: That's what I need you to do. Come in here
Speaker 1: and can you do that? Absolutely? I can do that. Cool,
Speaker 1: you're on paper, sign you up. And they're gonna continue
Speaker 1: to do that, I believe through the draft as well.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna They're gonna be looking for guys that
Speaker 1: can fulfill more roles, of course, but I think they've
Speaker 1: learned their lesson for trying to get these Swiss, the
Speaker 1: Swiss army knife type of guys, and they're gonna start saying, hey,
Speaker 1: guess what, no see you block really well, okay, there
Speaker 1: we go. I'mna put you in right here, play you
Speaker 1: in between these two hosses and just do that don't
Speaker 1: do anything else. Focus on that. We'll feel the rest
Speaker 1: of the roles with guys that do the same thing.
Speaker 1: Gotta know your role, got what you're doing. You shut
Speaker 1: your mouth and let all right. We're taking our second
Speaker 1: call Casey from Texas. Sorry we didn't get your your
Speaker 1: city where you at? Casey? And I mean, I'm currently
Speaker 1: in Cairo, but I represent Shiner Texas and calm the
Speaker 1: box all day long. Very nice. What's on your mind?
Speaker 1: So man, little man? Free agency? Um, not really a
Speaker 1: free agency, but I wish we could get that receive
Speaker 1: out of Arizona. I know we can't talk about his name,
Speaker 1: so I pay attention to you guys. I know what
Speaker 1: I can or I thank you sir. But man, my, my, my,
Speaker 1: my craziest spinish moment with Beek is the Pittsburgh c
Speaker 1: to walk off. There we go. My family, my common
Speaker 1: family is majority of Pittsburgh, still a fan, and we
Speaker 1: had a family naming that day that game was happening,
Speaker 1: and that walk off was was lovely. Oh yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: that that was such a good, good, good play. All
Speaker 1: the way across the port, I could imagine how crazy
Speaker 1: he and the Cowboys fans went in the midst of
Speaker 1: Steelers fans. Just the air that got sucked out of
Speaker 1: that room for those pitch fans. I know that was sweet,
Speaker 1: sweet given. I just wish I wish the Cowboys can
Speaker 1: get back to that moment when we had kolbig Bes,
Speaker 1: Brian beet D, when we was making the promo videos
Speaker 1: every other day and the bodings of having fun. I
Speaker 1: feel like the Cowboys hadn't been been having much fun
Speaker 1: since that. We can get back to that and get
Speaker 1: back to those twelve and four and those thirteen and
Speaker 1: five seasons like we had last year. Man, I think
Speaker 1: our team was enough all the way. Casey, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for the call. I completely agree. Bring back
Speaker 1: the fun, bring it back well. I will say this,
Speaker 1: they had a ton of fun last year and during
Speaker 1: those twelve wins. And it drops out to our media
Speaker 1: team and our production team for the magnificence that is
Speaker 1: Sounds from the Sideline, Because those Sounds from the Sideline
Speaker 1: drops it showed you just how not only intense and
Speaker 1: competitive it got on the Cowboys sidelines, but just the
Speaker 1: unbridled fun, the brotherhood of it. The Camarado read. It's
Speaker 1: good to see that. But I agree with Casey. And
Speaker 1: not to say that the twenty twenty two team did
Speaker 1: not have fun, but that twenty sixteen team felt like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was different. That felt like a complete turnaround, you know,
Speaker 1: because it wasn't supposed to happen. You're right, it wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to happen. Romo goes down, right, and then you
Speaker 1: get you know, Dak Prescott comes in and Dak wasn't
Speaker 1: even the second quarterback on the depth chart, right, he
Speaker 1: was behind Jamil Showers. Shouts out to Jamale Showers for
Speaker 1: those that forgot Jamal Showers quarterback, moved to safety center,
Speaker 1: basically did everything the Cowboys wanted, but he was behind
Speaker 1: Jamal Showers and killing Moore at that point. Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: fourth round comp pick. He you know, injury to killing Moore.
Speaker 1: He moves up, he gets more reps. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's his show to start the season. But how much
Speaker 1: can you expect from a fourth round comp pick? Okay,
Speaker 1: but then you get Zeke a ton of promise around
Speaker 1: and hype around the fourth overall pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: You're thinking, well, everything's gonna go as Zeke goes, and
Speaker 1: it kind of did. But Dak Prescott also had a
Speaker 1: word in that, and all of a sudden, now you
Speaker 1: have a five game win streak, seven game win streak,
Speaker 1: nine game win streak, eleven game win streak, and over
Speaker 1: the course of that is Roma going to get his
Speaker 1: job back. So that season hit so differently because it
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be what it was. It wasn't supposed
Speaker 1: to be as special as it as it was. And
Speaker 1: that special air was mixed with the toughness of knowing
Speaker 1: that it was over for Tony Romo. So there was
Speaker 1: a lot of emotions in that season. So that's why
Speaker 1: that year hit so different, no doubt, no doubt about it.
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Speaker 1: about well, ladies and gentlemen. One more tidbit from Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones out in the league meetings in Phoenix, and this one,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. When asked about the status of
Speaker 1: the other state of the offensive line, obviously, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: lost Connor mcgovernment starting left guard to free agency. He's
Speaker 1: going up to the Buffalo Bills to protect Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: That increases the number of question marks as far as
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys are gonna land. They're gonna get Tyren
Speaker 1: Smith back on a rework deal. But does that mean
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith is going to be right tackle? Is he
Speaker 1: going back to the left tackle with Tyler Smith moving
Speaker 1: into left guard? Terren Steele is looking to come back
Speaker 1: from a torn acale ce. Jerry Jones says that ty
Speaker 1: not Tyrant. I'm sorry that Terrence steal all these teams
Speaker 1: that Terrence Steele as we have this conversation in March,
Speaker 1: and I say that last part for a reason, but
Speaker 1: he says, Terrence Steele is the swing tackle. No way,
Speaker 1: So that's what he said, Like he dances like this,
Speaker 1: Dan or not not swinging like that and not swinging
Speaker 1: at the playground either, Yeah, not at the playground with ABC.
Speaker 1: No the bad creation, Noah, Noah, No Terren Steele. Uh.
Speaker 1: As it is viewed through the eyes of Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: on March twenty seventh, which was yesterday, Terren Steell is
Speaker 1: being viewed as the swing tackle, and that intimates loudly
Speaker 1: that Tyrn Smith is going to be the right tackle
Speaker 1: to start the season and Tyler Smith is going to
Speaker 1: be the left tackle and that still leaves your leaves
Speaker 1: you open that left guard. Stephen Jones says the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are obviously open to drafting the offensive laban at twenty six.
Speaker 1: Jerry himself said he wouldn't blink at drafting the twenty six,
Speaker 1: which is fine because we all said that. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: when I'm not in on and again, I know we're
Speaker 1: talking about this in March offensive line coach, and I
Speaker 1: didn't hear this from Mike McCarthy. We're hearing it from
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. Okay, so we're hearing it from the owner
Speaker 1: of gym and not the coaching staff. J I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that the coaching staff pulls mister Jones to the side
Speaker 1: and says, hey, we see what you did there, but nah,
Speaker 1: but nahum, Terrence Steele is your definitive starting right tackle.
Speaker 1: In my eyes, I think any healthy as long as
Speaker 1: he's healthy, I think any move if he's healthy and ready.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that. If he's healthy and ready
Speaker 1: for Week one, No way he needs to be your
Speaker 1: swing tackle. No way, no way. I get paying homage,
Speaker 1: which is rightfully due to tyring. And if you want
Speaker 1: to pay homage, you give him back his base position
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty three, drop Tyler in the left guard
Speaker 1: played how you need to play? You got the younger guys, Farni,
Speaker 1: y'all has an interior guy. That's an option. Well, let's
Speaker 1: go as your outside guy. Maybe he conflects in whatever
Speaker 1: the case may be. Terrence Steele is your starting right tackle?
Speaker 1: Catch your question? Yeah, go for it. Bro. Let's say
Speaker 1: that none of those three Tyler, ty Run or Terrence,
Speaker 1: neither of those three right, none of those three, and
Speaker 1: or is allowed to play left guard, and you have
Speaker 1: to sit one of them. Which of those three do
Speaker 1: you sit? Tackle? You can't play left guard, meaning that
Speaker 1: you can't bump anybody down to the left guard position. Right,
Speaker 1: You got to pick your tuns. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. Let's let's let's assume that they take
Speaker 1: a left guard at twenty six. Okay, that's my dream. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So you have two tackles, you have two tackle positions,
Speaker 1: three tackles. Who starts for you? Terrence, Tyler, Tyler, ter Terence, Tyrn, Tyler,
Speaker 1: Terrence and Tyrn. You're sitting Tyler. You know why? Why?
Speaker 1: Because recent history has shown us that Tyrone isn't going
Speaker 1: to give you seventeen foll Yeah, you're gonna get eleven
Speaker 1: games out of Tyler. Samantha is you're starting left tackle, right,
Speaker 1: so I mean it'll eventually it'll solve itself. So I
Speaker 1: think that because you start sitting, who starting in that situation,
Speaker 1: And just to be clearly, and if I'm understanding what
Speaker 1: I was asking, he's saying, of those three names, Terrence, Tyrn,
Speaker 1: and Tyler, if you're assuming that none can play left guard,
Speaker 1: which isn't true, but for the sake of having played
Speaker 1: a little game, who would you sit in that scenario?
Speaker 1: Tyler sits because I'm gonna start Tyrn number one. He's
Speaker 1: earned it. That's his spot. But also, you know, going
Speaker 1: in as much as you love seventy seven, you know
Speaker 1: he's not going to give you the full seventeen plus
Speaker 1: a postseason. So eventually, maybe sooner than later, hopefully not,
Speaker 1: but eventually Tyler's going to end up starting that left tackle. Anyway,
Speaker 1: then you might have an injury somewhere else on the line,
Speaker 1: And everything he did for you last year, you send
Speaker 1: him on the bench. What about everything seven seven did
Speaker 1: for you before last year as well? That's why I
Speaker 1: asked the question, and then last year as well. I
Speaker 1: have a different answer. Okay, let me see what you
Speaker 1: and I think Tyler has his whole career to be
Speaker 1: the starting left tackle. He does his whole career. I
Speaker 1: think Tyran probably has one more season. Tyler. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't love Tyler Henry. We've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: You don't want Tyler's gonna do what the hinder because
Speaker 1: he's just a great team. Don't want to hinder the
Speaker 1: growth of Tyler Smith just because you have loyalty to
Speaker 1: some guy who has played seven games over the last
Speaker 1: eight years leeper than just because because when that guy
Speaker 1: is healthy, he's still he's It's not a hollow. Here's
Speaker 1: where I'm going with it. Keep Tying at left tackle.
Speaker 1: That's fine, he's your starting left tackle. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing I held. Ohoh, are you give me Tyler Smith?
Speaker 1: Give me Tyler at right tackle, and then you have
Speaker 1: the swing option of why he's a tackle. He's much
Speaker 1: better as a tackle than he was as a guard. Ever, guard,
Speaker 1: I don't care if tackles tackle. It's easy. It's easier
Speaker 1: for him to go from left tackle the right tackle
Speaker 1: than it is for him to go from left tackle
Speaker 1: to left guard when he did that already. If he
Speaker 1: did him at right he didn't have the strength and
Speaker 1: you're another position. If he didn't have the hell in
Speaker 1: the bass that he has as Tyler Smith, then that
Speaker 1: statement will be accurate. But because he has the strength
Speaker 1: and the bass that he has, it's actually easier for
Speaker 1: him to go to left guard than from left tackle.
Speaker 1: To look like it, he didn't play very well at
Speaker 1: left guard. He played okay. He played okay, and he
Speaker 1: grew as the season went along because he had time
Speaker 1: to play there. Now, if he has an entire off
Speaker 1: season to play right tackle, you're telling me he can't
Speaker 1: do that. Not better than Terrence Steal, not not in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. That's the conversation Steele in right tech
Speaker 1: and right now and this hypothetical that we're giving this
Speaker 1: right now and this hypothetical here, Terrence Steele is the
Speaker 1: odd man out because he's not a young developmental player
Speaker 1: and he's not this high arching Tyrn Smith who's been
Speaker 1: here for ten years. He's somewhere in the middle where
Speaker 1: he's been a developmental prospect. That is really really good
Speaker 1: for you. Right now. He's the odd man out, not
Speaker 1: because he's not the best out of the three, or
Speaker 1: not because he's not talented enough. It's because you have
Speaker 1: two different things that you're trying to accomplish, two different
Speaker 1: agendas that you're trying to accomplish, loyalty to Tyron's Smith
Speaker 1: and developmental for Tyler Tyler Smith twenty twenty three on
Speaker 1: the phone. If you want, all right, is Nate Newton
Speaker 1: on the phone. We've got on Nate. Here's here's the hypothetical.
Speaker 1: How's first off, Good morning? How are you? Good morning?
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing great? Great? All right, here's
Speaker 1: a hypothetical. You don't have the option to move to
Speaker 1: guard or to center at all. So these three players
Speaker 1: have to play tackle. Who are you starting at left tackle,
Speaker 1: right tackle? And who is your swing tackle? Out of
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith and Terrence Steele. Uh uh, the
Speaker 1: older guy will be my swing tackle. Okay, that's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he will be my swing tackle because I need If
Speaker 1: I bet Tyler Smith it's my future left tackle. I
Speaker 1: gotta get him, give him every real developmental no doubt. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So who is he a left tackle? Left tackling Steel
Speaker 1: will be my right tackle right now, you can only
Speaker 1: play one position, just in my opinion. Now, maybe Mike
Speaker 1: Flora can work some magic to do offense line coach,
Speaker 1: But to me, Still is a right tackle. I've always
Speaker 1: tried to tell everybody that he's a right tackle. He's
Speaker 1: a great run blocker, he's an average fast blocker. He's
Speaker 1: coming off of a major knee injury. Now, if you talk,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna start that stuff we started last year,
Speaker 1: that's a disaster. So no matter who you start, you
Speaker 1: know you gotta let those five work together. But I
Speaker 1: for the question you asked me at the beginning, the
Speaker 1: left tackle would be the young kid that the rookie
Speaker 1: from last year, and the right tackle would be Still.
Speaker 1: If he's healthy, he's got to go. And I will
Speaker 1: let Tyler be the screen because he's not that durable.
Speaker 1: He's proven over years he's not that durable. And so
Speaker 1: now you're gonna put him in. He get three games
Speaker 1: and four games and all of a sudden something happening,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're throwing another guy in.
Speaker 1: Anyway to finish the season, you know you can't, I
Speaker 1: understand loyally, but you can't continue to do that. You
Speaker 1: can't continue to stop other kids development for a guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna give you maybe eight nine games at full speed. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: let me let me play Devil's advocate here, because Isaiah
Speaker 1: agrees with you. By the way, Isaiah agrees with you,
Speaker 1: Patrick and I are on kind of different playing surfaces
Speaker 1: at the ball. But when your swing tackle is Tyrann Smith, right,
Speaker 1: and you want him to be your backup, part of
Speaker 1: the reason why he would get playing time in the
Speaker 1: first place is because one of the two guys in
Speaker 1: front of him were injured, so you would not you
Speaker 1: would not have a healthy Tyler Smith or a healthy
Speaker 1: Terran Steal. What happens whenever your swing tackle who was
Speaker 1: injury prone in his own right comes in and he
Speaker 1: gets hurt. Where do you go from there? That's my
Speaker 1: that's my one pause. Let's go. You're letting him Ran, Well,
Speaker 1: let's go. I have the perfect answer right now. A
Speaker 1: lot of the guys there has had the perfect answer
Speaker 1: from the beginning. You draft or either signed a guy
Speaker 1: in free agent to be those two guys you draft.
Speaker 1: See the thing here is, we're we're solid everywhere. In
Speaker 1: my estimation, these guys are solid everywhere they have good
Speaker 1: they have I think super to good guys that every
Speaker 1: position except too and this' the offensive line they're not solid.
Speaker 1: I just believe that no depth, no proven and defensive
Speaker 1: line whether they're not solid. So you if they can
Speaker 1: just go out and draft someone or signed someone. They
Speaker 1: signed the young man, I can't pronounce his name and
Speaker 1: not we're not chopping up until the season start. But
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. You can't keep jeopardizing one piece, okay,
Speaker 1: to to jiggle around other pieces. You it's reless. Let
Speaker 1: this guys start. Whether he's a backup, and I'm telling
Speaker 1: about Tyron Smith, it is a high risk. The percentage
Speaker 1: is a high that he won't finish the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: completely agreed, Nate. Hey appreciate you hopping on and give
Speaker 1: you thank you. Man Till till that dude see George,
Speaker 1: you would not see a three piece who Listen, you
Speaker 1: could put it out in the atmosphere all you like,
Speaker 1: but it ain't gonna come back. You still want to
Speaker 1: hear him, but I still don't even want to hear it. Listen,
Speaker 1: he can't hear, Jimmy, Okay, he can't hear. He can't
Speaker 1: hear Jim, yes, kid jump reference. For those that don't know,
Speaker 1: here's my thing about the back end of what he said. Okay,
Speaker 1: if if we're talking about drafting a tackle here right, Nope,
Speaker 1: you're you're not. I'm not You're not. Are you? Are you?
Speaker 1: I want to let go You're If you're giving me
Speaker 1: a guard, I'm not having this conversation. This makes complete sense.
Speaker 1: I'm taking interior limit. I was taking a tackle at
Speaker 1: twenty six. I thought Nate. What Nate was trying to
Speaker 1: do was draft another tackle, was draft somebody else that
Speaker 1: was at tackle. If he's talking about guard, then I'm okay,
Speaker 1: then that doesn't bother me. If we're talking about drafting
Speaker 1: another tackle, which is possible at twenty six, because there
Speaker 1: are some good ones at twenty six, why do we
Speaker 1: even keep seventy seven around? That's my question. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know there's loyalty, I know he's still really good,
Speaker 1: but with the injury concerns and the durability. So my
Speaker 1: dream is that you draft a dog at left guard,
Speaker 1: and then you start and then you start Tyler on
Speaker 1: the left, you start Terrence still on the right, and
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that, and then you have Tyrn who
Speaker 1: you could bring in a heavy set, right, that could
Speaker 1: that could be something that is that one of your
Speaker 1: more common running U sets where you added additional office alignment, right,
Speaker 1: that eliminates that need for a line for a fullback
Speaker 1: a lot of times. So you have the goal line sets,
Speaker 1: you have all those times where you can still fit
Speaker 1: him in and keep his kip, his legs warm and
Speaker 1: all that jazz, and you could be dominant. You have
Speaker 1: a dominant running game in that portion, right, and then
Speaker 1: you have well, let's go, who's your backup? So you
Speaker 1: have well, let's go, and you have Tyron Smith who
Speaker 1: could be your backups. And I'm not calling Tyrn a backup,
Speaker 1: but he that's where the role that I'm saying the discussion,
Speaker 1: that's a discussion we're having. Right, we would know what
Speaker 1: he is, okay, but I'm terms of looking towards the future. Right,
Speaker 1: you have to address those things by let's seeing, Hey,
Speaker 1: this Terrence Steele still Terran Steele. And we're not gonna
Speaker 1: hinder Tyler Smith's development. And we're good. Last year we
Speaker 1: asked him to do above and beyond it, he did it.
Speaker 1: We're not doing that to him again. But you know,
Speaker 1: here's here's another dynamic. And I spoke about this as
Speaker 1: far as the last week in the week prior for
Speaker 1: those that came into the offseason, asking well, why is
Speaker 1: everyone hovering over the panic button as it relates to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensive line, And we laid it out. Obviously
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern potentially leaving he ended up leaving you got
Speaker 1: some depth issues. Guy's coming off injuries. Well, let's go
Speaker 1: for example, but I drew a red circle around circle
Speaker 1: around Terrence Steele, not only because he's coming back off
Speaker 1: of injury, but because is he's not locked up locked
Speaker 1: up for the long term. So as you're sitting here
Speaker 1: trying to have these kinds of long term negotiations with
Speaker 1: Terren Steele, put yourself in Steel's shoes. And if Steele
Speaker 1: believes that he's now being relegated to the role of
Speaker 1: swing tackle after having developed and proving himself as a
Speaker 1: definitive starter in the league, then it it makes him
Speaker 1: want to put one foot out the door more so
Speaker 1: than maybe it's already Maybe it already is. So you
Speaker 1: don't know that Terren Steele is going to be here
Speaker 1: twenty four, let alone in twenty three. So That's another
Speaker 1: angle of the conversation altogether, because we keep talking about
Speaker 1: so I don't think the tackle is really a bit
Speaker 1: like I know a lot of people are talking about
Speaker 1: it because of the injuries and the health, but honestly,
Speaker 1: tackle is probably that's where you have the most depth
Speaker 1: on the office of line. Right now, right now, right now,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, have nothing in garden. You
Speaker 1: have Collins. Collins is a dog, right, you got him.
Speaker 1: You have Terrence Steel, you have Tyring, you got Tyler,
Speaker 1: you got well, let's go. I was gonna say, but
Speaker 1: I was waiting for us. But so you have depth
Speaker 1: at tackle. It's the interior guys that you don't have. Trip.
Speaker 1: You have no to our knowledge, no proven backup center. No,
Speaker 1: you have no can. But he's not hoving a whole said,
Speaker 1: he's hoping. I'm saying, I'm trying to help the fans
Speaker 1: understand interior office a linement, left guard, left guard, and also,
Speaker 1: who's gonna play behind Martin? He hit the youngest spring
Speaker 1: chicken around here. Either. No, you might want to start
Speaker 1: planning for that future. No, I agree, I completely agree.
Speaker 1: I've been here for three years. I've been here for
Speaker 1: three years. Trying to say that this offensive line isn't
Speaker 1: what it always has been. And next year, you understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Next year, next year has to be
Speaker 1: you have to start planning for right guard effective Nicks.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be He's not going to be a
Speaker 1: guy that rises this thing out into he can't move. No,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. He's gonna write off in the sunset.
Speaker 1: He's that guy. He's that guy where he's like, my
Speaker 1: time's done and he just walks off. So you know,
Speaker 1: this might be this might be a situation where between
Speaker 1: last year, this year, next year, maybe even a year
Speaker 1: after in twenty five, this might be a similar sequence
Speaker 1: to the Tyrant and Frederick and Martin draft and that
Speaker 1: that rapid fire that's how you build the offensive line,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys show they can do it. So this
Speaker 1: might be you got Tyler, maybe you double back and
Speaker 1: you get somebody at twenty six you're left guard, and
Speaker 1: then you get your developmental right guard because and on
Speaker 1: the coach stab you hired or new what offensive line coach?
Speaker 1: So yeah, So with the twenty sixth pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty three NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys selected Cyrus Horrens
Speaker 1: out of Florida, because that's it, and that's that's the
Speaker 1: only guy that's gonna be there. That is worth twenty six.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope is a strategy. Welcome, welcome sometimes
Speaker 1: to Avila is there, But I would feel much better
Speaker 1: with Torrance there. I mean, they're both, they're my number
Speaker 1: one and two. By the way, I submitted my draft
Speaker 1: magazine bios. I wrote thirty thousand words for that magazine.
Speaker 1: That's my guy, and they're number one and number two,
Speaker 1: Torrance and Avila in terms of interior offensive line leads,
Speaker 1: including center because John Michael Schmidtz is number three for
Speaker 1: me and I could go either way. I'm like one
Speaker 1: a one tweet the three of us your top three
Speaker 1: positional wants for that number twenty six, Do it, get
Speaker 1: it done? Do it get it done at I am
Speaker 1: stand back at Voice of the Star, at Kyle Underscore
Speaker 1: Yeoman's let us know what are your top three positional
Speaker 1: needs for the Dallas Cowboys. All right, that does it
Speaker 1: for us. We'll be back next Tuesday. We'll be back
Speaker 1: at ten am Central time to break it all down
Speaker 1: for you. We're less than a month away from the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. So this is not the only draft talk
Speaker 1: we're gonna have on this show. We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: little bit because we have the experts a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, Chris Beam is pretty good at what he
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we get someone else from the draft shoulder.
Speaker 1: We could make that happen. Yeah, for one of the
Speaker 1: make it happens. We'll make it happen. She'll be a
Speaker 1: whole lot of fun for Chris being Isaiah standback, Patrick
Speaker 1: No see walk around, Kyle Yeomen saying so long, thanks
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