WEBVTT - MLB: Leading Off Aug 25th, 2023 (Ep. 731) 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:09.640 Leading Off is going down right now. I'm the Welsh 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.400 that is Bubba and leading Off on Fantasy Proses brought 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.520 to you by Prize Picks. Price Picks promo code. Leading 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:17.919 Off is going to get you a one matchup to 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.520 one hundred bucks. Go put money in and make more money, 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:26.000 get free money, have the most fun with money Price Picks. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.760 Just have a great time. You can play along with 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:29.360 us as we're gonna be doing our prize Picks a 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:33.440 little bit later. It's Bubba and the Welsh Bubba. We 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.560 got a lot to get through. It's always it's a 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.280 little bit jarring with like having the day off in 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.320 between shows because news kind of piles itself up. But 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.919 we've got the blatantly obvious one. We're going to talk 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.440 about weekend streamers. Where are me and Corbyn Carrol this week? 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.080 I will give you one little hint pre hint. We're 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.960 getting weird and a whole bunch more. But I was 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.000 told by a little birdie that Bubba is not only 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.560 going to see Spencer Strider tonight, but you're going to 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:04.120 be hanging out with the fantasy Baseball elites tonight. Bubbs. 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.440 Yeah, they needed to lower their like quality of people 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.600 around them, so they called me to come join them. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.440 But yeah, I'm gonna hang out with Nick Pollock, Sammy Reid, youeno, 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.880 Sarahs might drop by. Justin Mason's gonna be there, Jake Crumpler, 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:17.880 and many more. So it's gonna be a fun little 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.360 hang at the ballpark. When we planned it a while back, 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.200 we did not know Spencer Streyder was gonna be on 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.160 the mount, which kind of tops it off. So it'll 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.559 be a fun night watch my giants strike out twelve times. 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:27.480 It'll be a good time. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.520 Yeah, I mean this is like a little pre Arizona 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.880 first pitch, a little conference that's going on. So Pollock 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.000 is in town on the West coast, Nick Paul too. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:38.800 I thought he was lost. I thought he was you know, 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.000 I've given him such a hard time. So I always 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:43.560 do those hangs in New York, like you know, pictureless hangouts. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.440 I said, hey, when are you gonna represent the good coast? 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:48.760 And he always ignores me, ignores me, ignores me, And 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.280 then here he is. He's out here for some personal 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.280 stuff and decided to watch a game with us. 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.040 That'll be a lot of fun. That'll be a great 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.880 gris so send some pictures out there, make sure you're 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.240 following Bubbs on Bead and trick and hopefully and get 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.880 some shots to night. Pretty damn good game to go to. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.200 So that'll be fun and it's a good reminder too. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:06.600 You know, any of you guys, You guys are the 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.800 hardcore baseball people. This isn't applying literally no affiliation with 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.800 the Baseball HQ people or anything, but the First Pitch 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.280 Conference all going down in November, where you can come 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.800 out here to Arizona. You can meet Bubbs, you can 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.680 meet me, get hang out. We can have drinks, watch baseball, 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.640 and have so much fun with the game's top prospects. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.240 So even if you didn't do the conference, I'd say, 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.800 come on out for baseball and you could intertwine in 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.160 these type of meetups. Speaking of meetups, by the way, 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.600 did you see the little glow up that piece of 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:36.560 p has got right now? 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.040 Dude, I'm not even gonna calm on it because I've 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.160 met so many jokes about the guy he hosted a 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:43.079 show with recently. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.320 Well, basically I just put it out there. I was 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.919 actually texting with him about something I cannot talk about 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.639 on here. But he's like yeah, he's like, I got 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.560 just doing all this stuff and he's like, I'm doing 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:57.200 a show with Colin Cowhert and he posted today too. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.520 I thought they were having Colin Cowhert on Fantasy pros 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:05.160 Ericson were on Colin what a what a freaking glow 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:05.440 up for? 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:11.200 I love Colline's tweet though. The Fantasy Pro guys guys, Yeah, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.000 and ericson, they really know their stuff with the with 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.360 the strong arm emoji. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.120 Yeah, you're like that producer did a good job. That 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:20.639 producer that tweeted. 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:24.680 That for college Twitter account person does call her cowards too. 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.960 So that's what there. That's where he's at. That's where 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.320 our Joey has been out there with. 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:31.560 Anymore. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.160 He left us in the dust, Daniel Cormier and Colin Cowherd. 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.600 He doesn't need us, but we need you guys. So 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.320 we're going to talk about all the stuff and things. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:41.760 Let's get out of the way. I know it's a 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.360 day old, but we have not had anything happen show. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:45.480 No. 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:49.280 Oh, Tawny, I was live. I don't know if you 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.520 saw any of this. I was live on CBS when 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.000 this news broke. We actually didn't even know it happened, 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.720 and Chris Towards busted in and told us, and it 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.760 was the craziest ten minutes of just anything I've ever done. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.440 Also because Towers then ended our broadcast and we came back, 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.520 but absolutely shocked by every facet of the news with 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.600 Otani and Bubba. One of the biggest things I couldn't 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.400 stop focusing on. And I'm not We're not gonna go 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.200 crazy with Otani at the top, We'll just talk a 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.440 little bit about it. But the craziest thing I couldn't 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.479 comprehend and I wanted to know when we found out, 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.279 was well, when did this happen? And what was worse? 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.479 Did this happen? And we know whin it happened, but 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.839 like the MRI, did they do the MRI after both 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.479 games or in between? And if they did it in between, 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.560 why the hell would they let him play? And if 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.560 they did it after, why the hell would they let 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.160 him play? It happened in between, we found out, So 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.440 he was out there that famous now picture of Ellie 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.479 poking him and stuff. He had a torn UCL and 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.800 they're now talking about letting or I guess he's got 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.600 the decision to hit the rest of the way through, Bubba, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.719 what do you think the actual hitting impact is going 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.120 to be of Otani? And do you think he's actually 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:56.599 going to finish the year hitting? 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:56.960 What? 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.080 I Okay, this was the way I look at it is. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.680 First off, yeah, the imaging between the two games then 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.800 playing is weird. Same with Mike Trout didn't play first 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.120 game all he might have played, and then he'd only 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.120 iel immediately after game two, like where's that information? But 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.440 when it comes to a tawny he wants a second 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.040 opinion because a lot of guys these days, if it's 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.600 not like a full full tear, he's they do the 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.560 rehab and don't pitch, And that's what he's hoping for. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.360 I think if that second opinion goes poorly, he goes 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.599 under the knife immediately because he has nothing to lose. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.320 He's going to try to sign a big deal, so 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.800 he needs to be back as soon as possible. He is, 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.479 so it'll be the Bryce Harper approach, like have the 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.080 surgery now, be able to hit by mid season, maybe 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:33.159 pitch the following year. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.080 That's the goal. Now, I'm gonna throw this out to you. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:36.920 I mentioned it on a couple of my recent Joe's 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:38.719 bubb on the Boom on Thursday night was where it 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.120 came to my mind. I've said forever because he's had 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.960 issues with injuries since he's come up. Basically, I want 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.520 to see Otani as the closer and let him hit 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.039 every day. We can have a forty forty forty season 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.520 Welsh forty homers, forty steals, forty saves. Now how forty 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.880 forty the branding makes itself. That's worth a billion dollars contract. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:58.840 Right there, I'm just saying, I think that's cool. I'm 0:05:58.839 --> 0:05:59.320 gonna throw that. 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.000 I actually love that idea, and I'd seen a lot 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:02.600 of people go out there and say kind of the 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.320 same thing, that this might be the end of him 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.880 being a starting pitcher. The only problem is, I think 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.560 everybody's trying to make the decisions for Otani where he's 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.279 not gonna let anybody make those decisions. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:12.480 Good. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.560 Everything that he does is gonna be on his own track. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.279 So if he still wants to be a starting pitcher, 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.960 no one's gonna stop him. Here's my thought, and this 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.960 is what I said live on CBS. I think this 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.760 is the thing that brings him back to the Angels. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.240 I think he goes back to the Angels because now 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.080 you could argue there's no money lost. And I know 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.039 there's some people you know, like Henry right here in 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.279 the chat saying I still think he gets five hundred million. 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.159 You could argue there's no money lost. But any team 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.760 that's going to make the investment, he's gonna hold back 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.880 a little bit. A guy that you know has had 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.839 major surgery, has a major issue right now, cannot pitch 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.240 for let's call it fourteen sixteen months, and if his 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:53.240 future in their mind is as a closer, that might 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:57.240 be worth less. In general, my thought is this is 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.960 the one scenario, This was the one in a million 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.400 scenario that is going to make him return to the 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.960 Angels because you've got the team nucleus in general, you 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.719 saw that they were trying to win. Could he get 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.360 the money, yeah, could it be more difficult? I think so. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.760 I think he re signs with a it's either a 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.800 straight up two or three year deal, or it's the 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.000 massive deal with an out after three years. It's a 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:25.200 player option that the Angels give him. So once he's recovered, 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.480 once the arm is good, once he's throwing again, he 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.880 can still go out. At about thirty years old and 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.920 get another ten year kajillion dollar contract and he can 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.880 stay where he's comfortable and he knows while he's going 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.760 through this rehabbing process on a team that will support 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.640 him in whatever that he needs to do. Because you've 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.520 got like a minimal track record. This is the minimal 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.960 track record. I mean as far as like you know, 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.800 like what they've done and what he's done, and you've 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:56.000 got a minimal contract agreement. So I think this was 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.760 the one scenario where he returns and I think he's 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.880 going to this is this is my opinion on this, 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.080 that this will be the thing that he has a 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.360 two to three year contract or player option out while 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.320 he recovers as a hitter, maybe a closer. It's wild. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.560 Yeah, he's a twenty nine right now. 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.400 I think it is the three year deal, and it 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.120 it'll be like a layered contract, like year one, okay, 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.200 you're just a hitter, here's thirty million dollars. But then 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.960 like maybe there's a mutual option after year one of 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.320 like he's not healthy, can't pitch, well, we rediscuss things. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:27.480 Then you get the two years. 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.160 He gets paid pretty hefty, and then he gets a 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.080 chance to get a new contract after that. So that's 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.920 kind of how I see it. We've seen so many guys, 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.760 you know, coming off TJ they go sign like the 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.319 Razor Graad that sign like the two or three year 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.360 deals where you're one's like four million dollars and then 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.839 they get sixteen twenty four after that or something like that. 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.160 I think we're gonna see a layered deal that basically, Okay, 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.360 we love you, you can hit, prove you can pitch, 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:48.920 and then when you're gonna get all this other money 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.000 before you leave again. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:51.040 I just think the end of it. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.640 Yeah, I think the Angels on if you if you 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.640 just look at two years and you look at the annual, 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.160 I think the Angels can compete with anybody, and then 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.640 you have comfortability, and I think I think, why would 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.800 they not be willing to even just give that out 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.360 if they had the option to lose him, Oh you know, 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:06.960 we can't get you for ten years, we don't want 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.000 you know, they would absolutely give that to him. I 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.800 think I got to play, We'll see how it comes out. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.360 I do also think the way that he approaches the 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.880 rest of the season might be telling as well. If 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.640 he were to go in the season, have surgery. Even 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.040 the surgery could still equal to the Angels. But if 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:24.839 he were to kind of end out the season, that 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.240 might be more telling of a free agent bid. If 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.000 he plays all the way up until the Angels are 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.600 completely eliminated, I think that opens up the It opens 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.760 it all up, and we'll see. He says he's going 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:36.720 to d h They got a game today, the lineups 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.600 are not out. I assume he's going to be hitting. 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.160 I think this a stobal idea, but it is literally 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.160 the worst case scenario, the most shocking thing of all 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.120 of the entire season too. On top of Mike Trout 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.000 also going on the IO. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.640 I think I blame piece of psay and after the 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:51.960 trade deadline, he's gonna get hurt. 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:53.000 That's what I blame it on. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.680 Can you He's got to still in the al MVP. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.640 Right as we've had that conversation with the first thing, 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.120 I thought, like we've said, it. 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.280 Was like a locked up thing. I think he does. 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.200 I don't know how he loses it, but it's like 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.240 a little over a month of baseball he could miss. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.920 Yeah, if you guys got any questions, this is for 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:11.760 the live stream crew. If you guys are listening on 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:13.640 the podcast, you guys can hang out with us. We 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.040 are live at twelve thirty pm Eastern, nine thirty my time. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.120 You guys can come and hang out in the live stream. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.840 Ask questions. We will be answering some of those questions shortly, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.760 so put them in the chat. We will jump to 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.600 them as we get to everything. Let's move on to 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.960 a couple other things outside of shoheo tany talk. How 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.400 about Merle Kelly with my Diamondbacks last night tied a 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.800 career high in strikeouts with twelve. Went and took a 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.760 look at the deeper ending of the start. He went 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.360 a little bit more heavy change up. That was his 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.560 primary pitch. Usually throws it around like twenty five percent. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.880 He went around thirty percent last night. A bit more 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.840 on the fastball as well as far as like swinging strikes. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.120 He had ten or I'm sorry that was on the 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.640 change of ten swinging strikes on that change up. Over 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.079 the usage of the fastball, the other big key has 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:55.840 been the slider, and he talked about it after the 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.040 game Bubba that he said he now slider he was 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.520 using like couple percent. It's at five now, but he's 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.480 been using a little bit more. It was like even 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.880 lower earlier in the year. He said he now is 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.280 at a point with his slider that this is a 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.240 pitch that he can go to, and in this start 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.880 he threw it ten percent of the time. He's getting 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.920 whiffs on it. He got whiffs across the board. Merle 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.240 has taken a next step and it's been a mid 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.520 season added pitch. So curious at your take on Meryl 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:24.800 Kelly for the rest of the season. 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:26.960 I'm a big Merrill Kelly fan. I have lots of 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.080 shares of Merril Kelly actually because I liked how just 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.839 he's boring, eats innings and gets you ratios. Now he's 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.120 adding strikeouts this year. You mentioned the pitch mix change, 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.679 which is tremendous. He had a forty five percent CSW 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.560 last night, by far the best of his career, and 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.480 it was like the think I think Alex fast Tweed 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.480 the second or third best of the season in baseball 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:44.440 for a starting pitcher. 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:45.400 He was filthy. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.000 He took advantage of a red S team that strikes 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.280 out nearly thirty percent of the divers right handed pitching 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.520 over the last month, and he made him look foolish. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.680 So I think he looks great. He had the cramping 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.720 in his hamstring again, which he's had like almost every start. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.160 Now it seems like he's the show hey of the Diamondbacks, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.880 minus the two way stuff. 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:01.240 But yeah, I love what he did. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.240 Yeah, I'm a little bit I'm a little bit worried 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.680 about those like injuries that keep kind of coming up here. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.560 But Meryl is yeah right there. Like we just say, 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.559 he's a dog man. He gets out there, he pounds 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.680 his own, he's a great pitcher behind, you know, a 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.520 pretty good offense in support, and those strikeouts have been 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.520 the next key. These guys that take the next level 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.520 on the strikeouts jump up on the same token for 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.040 the Diamondbacks. I won't just make this about said player. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.480 We'll turn it around. But Corman Carroll went two for four, 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.600 had the go ahead homer, did it off a lefty. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.320 It was just twenty second of the year. 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:31.800 Though. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.520 I wanted to point out that in the first eighty 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:39.319 four games Carol hit eighteen homers. In the registered second 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.040 half of the season, he only has four, So that's 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.120 over thirty seven games, so a little less than half 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.120 the home run totals have just absolutely depleted his overall 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.480 production has depleted. And what I wanted to turn this 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:54.600 to was you actually took part in what is you 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.040 guys your cycle paths and I love the psycho Paths. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.960 It was Rob dpe Trow put it looks like he 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.920 put together. He tweeted it out, so I assume he 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:06.160 kind of put it together. In twenty twenty four NFBCDC, 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.120 you guys called it the early Meatball Draft. You guys 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.960 are absolute psychopaths. You actually had the very first pick 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.840 in this. But the thing that stood out to me 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.360 was Corbin Carroll went eleven in this and I think 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.680 we did a on itl We did like an early 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.520 early season Mack where we were looking at Corbyn Carroll. 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.920 We did it with Frank Stanfel from CBS, and he 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.640 went top five. I think Carrol is a guy you 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.240 got to consider in the top five, but he went 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.160 eleven in this one. So I just wanted to get 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.320 your thoughts on like where Carol has been really struggling 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.200 in the second half and him kind of maybe quote 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:38.800 unquote falling down to eleven. 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:39.520 Yeah. 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.440 First of this is the second year the same group 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.600 of US minus one has gotten together to do this 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:48.160 such a tradition now and actually Ryan BLOOMFD myself, we 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.280 recapped this whole draft on our show on Thursday night, 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.199 and this was a topic of conversation because when it 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.920 came to Corbyn Carroll, we both agreed he'd be like 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.079 a if you didn't put Strider up top, he'd be 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.160 a fourth or fifth pick, And like Julio, him and 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.400 Julio are kind of interchangeable. At a point you can 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.880 kind of make that argument he fill obviously because of 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.120 the shoulder injury. We both agreed that if he has 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.120 a strong and literally hits the home run as we're 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.240 talking about him last night, if he continues to play 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.160 well for the rest of the like the season, he 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:18.120 will be a top five pick. 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:19.600 Like we both we both agree that. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:21.760 So that's the fun part and like the gift of 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.200 the curse to doing these really stupid early drafts is 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:25.920 you'll get certain guys that fall and you're like, wait 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.200 a minute, and then then you come March they're back 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:28.760 to top five. 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.240 So yes, that's what we saw too. 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.560 Yeah, and obviously like and still your guys' content, Rob 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.360 is doing something about it. Go listen to him, Go 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.280 listen to uh Bubba and Bloom for full breakdowns. But 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.200 I do think there's like a lot of like movement 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.080 that can happen here. Strider went third in that, and 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.280 I would say in a NFBC draft, like I can 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.960 see it, and I think probably standard likes Rodo head 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.920 to head, there's no frickin way that's going on. But there, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.480 you know what. At the same point, like, I also 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.000 don't want to make Carol out like he's like a 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.480 must because you know eleven, I think ten to eleven 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.200 that's like a huge steal on him. But when you 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:04.080 look at the players that are ahead, it's like Ramirez, okay, positional, 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.480 Freddie Freeman is the monster. Bobby Witt has pushed himself 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.000 in that. I'm probably taking him over Tatisa at this point, 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.360 but mooki Julio. You know, maybe Carol is gonna sit 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.400 more eight and it's the second half that's taken him 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.880 off of it, and it would behoove him and probably 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.680 a lot of people if he were to have a 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.040 nice last end of the month where he ends up 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.560 being a probably like a twenty five to forty guy. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.680 He's a couple of stolen bases away from twenty forty, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.239 but you also might get a discount if he doesn't, 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.080 and I think he's gonna make lots of adjustments the 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.400 season to kind of recover with He said the shoulders fine, 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.800 but I thought that was fascinating. One other thing I 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.240 just wanted to point out, and this is only a 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.840 carryover if you listen to my stuff and you heard 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.600 us talking on CBS. We were talking about Corbyn Burns 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.640 and I kind of pushed back, and I think Frank 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.280 mentioned this draft I push back on. They were saying, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.520 like Corbyn Burns like being the third pitcher, and I 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.040 was like, guy, I don't know about that. And something 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.440 that was in my head that I never brought up 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.720 was I was I wanted to ask who would you 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:03.560 take Corbyn Burns or Uri Perez this season? And Bubba 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.640 in the and this and soe why I'm going with 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.520 it in the third Corbyn Burns went in the third round, 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.640 but you took Uri with the first pick in the 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.640 fourth round. And there's a part of me thinking next year, 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.200 if the training wheels are off of Ury Perez, I 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.320 don't know if I want Corbyn Burns over Uri pres. 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.200 I know why you would take Corbyn Burns all the 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.920 things speak to it. But in a format like this 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.640 and an NFB, I might go Uri Perez over just 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.640 your thoughts of like, would you have taken Corbyn Burns 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.360 hands down over Uri had he got there? 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.640 No, I'm not a big Corbyn Burns guy. I've actually 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.800 started the movement. If you look at Burns would drift 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.400 in Perolta. Give me Peralta all day out of the three, 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:43.600 especially at his ADP. If you talk about the three 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.160 Brewers pitchers. Burns is great. He's good, I should say, 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.080 but the pitch clock has not been kind to him, 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:50.760 and he's he had the dominating the year and we 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.280 haven't seen it since. So I can't take that pick 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:53.760 on him. I'll take the chance on Ury, who he's 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.120