WEBVTT - Lost in Lost Hills

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans. It's Friday night, and we're driving down

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacific Coast Highway that winds through Malibu toward the

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<v Speaker 1>blue neon glow of Jeoffrey's Restaurant. On September sixteenth, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine, twenty four year old my Trees Richardson

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<v Speaker 1>took this same route in her nineteen ninety eight Honda Civic.

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<v Speaker 1>She went inside the restaurant and ordered a Kobe's Steak

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<v Speaker 1>and a sea breeze. Many diners and restaurant workers noted

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<v Speaker 1>her behavior as quote off. Before the night was over,

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<v Speaker 1>my Trees found herself in a Lost Hills Sheriff's Department

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<v Speaker 1>holding cell. The officers who took her to jail drove

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<v Speaker 1>way past the strip of sand called Billionaire Beach, home

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<v Speaker 1>to CEOs and Hollywood Royalty. My Trees was in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the cruiser as it curved sharply into the

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Monica Mountains, near the gated communities of Calabasas that

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Kardashian West and Will and Jada Pinkett Smith call home.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a long way from the surfers and the

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity hotspots up here. The roads have no shoulders, and

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<v Speaker 1>steep drop offs. Her final destination was the Lost Hills

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff Station in the middle of nowhere, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday at twelve fifteen am, My Trees was released. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the same sheriffs station where mel Gibson was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested for drunk driving. Even after a drunken rant, officers

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<v Speaker 1>safely drove Meil back to his car when he sobered up.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no courtesy ride for My Trees, the young

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<v Speaker 1>African American woman with no famous last name. She was

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<v Speaker 1>released into the pitch black night and had no car,

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<v Speaker 1>no cell phone, no money. She was forty miles from

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<v Speaker 1>home and had no way of getting back. My Trees

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<v Speaker 1>disappeared into the darkness and was never seen alive again.

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<v Speaker 1>To this day, no one knows what happened to My Trees.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone. So Catherine, where

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<v Speaker 1>are we going. We're going to Inglewood Cemetery and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk to doctor Ronda Hampton at my Teresa's

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<v Speaker 1>grave site, because today is the anniversary of the day

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<v Speaker 1>that she disappeared. Take the next right onto East Florence Avenue.

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<v Speaker 1>Then your destination will be on the right, Sorry, excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>Inglewood Cemetery is located right next to the airport. The

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<v Speaker 1>cemetery is huge, so huge that it's divided by two

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<v Speaker 1>way streets, beautiful, peaceful lots of palm tree line streets.

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<v Speaker 1>My Teresa's plot is located on fair Haven. Today, some

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<v Speaker 1>of her friends and loved ones have gathered to remember her. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Ronda Hampton organized the event today. Doctor Ronda is

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<v Speaker 1>a clinical psychologist who first met my Trees in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six when My Trees was her intern. This

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<v Speaker 1>is where my Trees is laid to rest and next

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<v Speaker 1>to her great grandmother and her uncle. She's buried next

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<v Speaker 1>to her uncle who was shot and killed by police

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty six, and her great grandmother Mildred, who

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<v Speaker 1>my trace was living with when she went missing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see this all right. Dear Father, God, would come

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<v Speaker 1>before you and we thank you that this is the

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<v Speaker 1>day that you have made. We are accepting Father, what

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<v Speaker 1>has happened to my Trees, but we are not accepting Father,

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<v Speaker 1>that justice is has happened. So Father, we're praying for

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<v Speaker 1>today that this would be a reminder for us that

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<v Speaker 1>we will all continue to work together to push forward

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<v Speaker 1>for justice, and even though the road becomes hard and difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>we thank you that we can rely upon your strength.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Ronda and mourners have brought dozens of sunflowers, my

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<v Speaker 1>Teresa's favorite. She sets up a memorial display with my

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<v Speaker 1>Teresa's graduation photo, and she brought gift bags for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>coming by today featuring the Justice for my Terre's logo,

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<v Speaker 1>a sunflower with a butterfly inside her masks, a sign

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<v Speaker 1>of the COVID times, and sunflower seeds. Anytime I see sunflowers,

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<v Speaker 1>that always makes me happy, I think because because my

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<v Speaker 1>trees love the flowers. And then when I see some

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<v Speaker 1>flowers for her, then it makes me feel really happy.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually I've been really scared to come to her

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<v Speaker 1>her sight. I don't even know why. Yeah, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time you've been here since yeah, since

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<v Speaker 1>the service. Yeah, I don't know. This is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time that Ronda has been to my Teresa's grave site

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<v Speaker 1>since the day they buried her. And that is a

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<v Speaker 1>day she doesn't want to remember. And on that day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like it's not done, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, Okay, here we're burying her. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a circus. It was like a media circus to begin

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<v Speaker 1>with no respect for her whatsoever, you know, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>sheriffs were talking shit. It's like, come on, let her

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<v Speaker 1>just be buried, you know. So that was just very frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then on the day of her funeral,

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<v Speaker 1>I so this is what happened. I asked the forensic

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<v Speaker 1>anthropologist that was volunteering that whenever, whenever we found my

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<v Speaker 1>Teresa's body, would she come and do like an autopsy. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So when she was found, then I called her and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, they found her. The thing is, she was

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<v Speaker 1>in England at the time, so she had to She says,

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<v Speaker 1>the way. The only day I can get back is

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<v Speaker 1>on September seventeenth, And that was the day that the

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<v Speaker 1>service was already planned, so like only hours before her funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>She uh was doing the autopsy just hours before. So

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<v Speaker 1>then right when the service was gonna start, right then,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I get the phone call. Right, her body

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<v Speaker 1>had not been analyzed, her clothing were in the body bag,

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<v Speaker 1>clothing in the body bag, her body had not been analyzed.

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<v Speaker 1>And apologist is like, we gotta figure out what to do, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we got like five minutes to make a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we gonna do. I was at the church.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's rolling in. Yeah, so we were like, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna have We're just gonna have to bury

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<v Speaker 1>because we were It's like if they would put her

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<v Speaker 1>clothing in the body bag to be buried, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that they're trying to high. So we had so we

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<v Speaker 1>had to We just had to have the funeral. So

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<v Speaker 1>all the time we're sitting there or I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think I told her mom. I think I just had

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<v Speaker 1>to wait, like just sitting there. It's like, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna let this uner what happens. So I'm preoccupied.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not thinking about none of this. I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>Colin Lee Baka in the corners and like what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>So all that, I'm not even thinking about it, none

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Sitting in the church, pissed off, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's what happened on that day. So no, that

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<v Speaker 1>was not a beautiful day or whatever. I was there

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<v Speaker 1>a p occupied, getting the hell out of here and

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<v Speaker 1>just jamming up whoever needed to be jammed up. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been following my Teresa's case for a long time. I

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<v Speaker 1>first heard about it in late two thousand and nine

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<v Speaker 1>when I was living in LA and I remember seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a mention of the search in Malibu. The story seems

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<v Speaker 1>so strange, a woman who had been arrested, then let

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<v Speaker 1>go in the middle of the night, and then vanished

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<v Speaker 1>without I was actually working and training as a PI

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<v Speaker 1>during that time in Agra Hills, so I would have

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<v Speaker 1>to make the drive through the Calabasas area. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>seeing people holding signs and wearing have you seen my

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<v Speaker 1>Tree's t? Shirts. According to news reports, there were multiple

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<v Speaker 1>searches by police in Malibu, by the LAPD, and by

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of volunteers, but then the story just seemed to disappear.

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<v Speaker 1>I never even knew that her remains had been found.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first read about my Teresa's story, it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of presented as a girl who may have been

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<v Speaker 1>on drugs or on the streets, or possibly wandered into

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<v Speaker 1>the woods and was suicidal. As it turns out, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like that at all. My Teres was a young

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<v Speaker 1>woman with a caring family who was vulnerable on one night,

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<v Speaker 1>and the people around her wanted her to be safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she went to what should have been the safest

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<v Speaker 1>place in the world the Lost Hills Sheriff Station, and

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<v Speaker 1>then just vanished. Another thing that interested me about the

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<v Speaker 1>area where this took place was the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 1>very remote. People have this misconception that this area is

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<v Speaker 1>buzzing because it's close to Malibu Beach in the Hollywood hangouts,

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<v Speaker 1>but the truth is, once you turn up toward the canyon,

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<v Speaker 1>the areas around there are cut off from anywhere you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the mountains within a couple of minutes up there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all horse trails and very remote neighborhoods that are

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<v Speaker 1>cut off from the surrounding world by the Santa Monica

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<v Speaker 1>Mountains and the nearby communities of Agora Hills and Simi

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<v Speaker 1>Valley are also very different from Malibu and Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>They're small town, predominantly white, very conservative, and heavily populated

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<v Speaker 1>by people who work in law enforcement. Side note, the

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<v Speaker 1>community of Simi Valley was the home of two of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ventura County jurors who acquitted the police officers who

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<v Speaker 1>beat Rodney King in nineteen ninety two, triggering the La riots,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the past couple of years there have been

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<v Speaker 1>several mysterious deaths in the area. In January twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty year old a Lane Park had a date night

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<v Speaker 1>with her boyfriend. He said she left in the early

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<v Speaker 1>morning hours the next day. Her car was found abandoned

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<v Speaker 1>on Pacific Coast Highway a few days later, but she

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<v Speaker 1>was never seen again. Then, in twenty eighteen, Tristan Bodett,

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<v Speaker 1>a young father of two, was shot while sleeping in

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<v Speaker 1>his tent in the Santa Monica National Park campground. A

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<v Speaker 1>drifter named Anthony Rauta has been charged with Bodet's murder,

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<v Speaker 1>but there have been many other mysterious shootings in the area,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people believe that Rauta is not

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for all of them. But what's so odd to

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<v Speaker 1>me about my Teres's case is the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>can disappear so close to one of the most star

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<v Speaker 1>studded and populated places in the world. When my Terce

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<v Speaker 1>was taking the drive that night, she had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>on her mind. For the past several months, her life

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<v Speaker 1>had been in transition. She was interning with Ronda and

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<v Speaker 1>looking at graduate schools. Before we went to the cemetery

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<v Speaker 1>with Ronda, we gave her a call to get her

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<v Speaker 1>perspective on the case. She's been investigating my Teresa's death

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<v Speaker 1>for over ten years or else. Oh hi, doctor Hampton, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you. I'm good? Thank you for talking to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Ronda says she will never forget the first day that

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<v Speaker 1>my ries walked into her office. What was she like? So,

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<v Speaker 1>my Trees, I have to tell you when. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of had a little bit of an attitude

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<v Speaker 1>taking on an intern. I really didn't want to. My

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<v Speaker 1>daughter was just starting school that week, first grade, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just was really not interested in supervising someone because

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<v Speaker 1>it's quite you know, it's a bit of a responsibility, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so on the very first day that she came

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<v Speaker 1>into my office was the first day that my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>started school, right, So I, you know, come rushing into

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<v Speaker 1>the office and she was already there. But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you when I fell in love with her. I in

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<v Speaker 1>between clients, I overheard her talking to someone else over

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. Now I don't actually recall who it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was very clear in saying, well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Hampston's office and this is how she runs things.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I will take your you know, your message,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will pose it onto her, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>very stern and the way she said it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wait a minute, car she was just like

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<v Speaker 1>laying down the law. Its very in a very very

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<v Speaker 1>respectful manner, but really firm. So I absolutely I was

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<v Speaker 1>like just double take, like, way, who are we? And

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<v Speaker 1>a couple hours later I had a break and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we just it was just you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was on, you know, and I was I had graduated

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<v Speaker 1>from cal State Polishes, so we had that in common.

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<v Speaker 1>And and she was just smart as a whip, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was nothing to kind of just really take her

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<v Speaker 1>under my wing and you know, just show her everything

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<v Speaker 1>that I possible it could. Yeah, she seemed like an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing She seemed like a really amazing person. The good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>She really was. And it's hard to you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>hear that stuff all the time, but it's like she

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<v Speaker 1>was so dynamic, you know, just just smart and very

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<v Speaker 1>pleasant and very very cheerful and you know, just respectful

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<v Speaker 1>and and inquisitive like all those things. And and and

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<v Speaker 1>also I learned very quickly that she definitely was uh

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a better therapist than than me. And

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<v Speaker 1>she had much more compassion natural combassion than I do

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<v Speaker 1>the week My Trees disappeared, she had scheduled lunch with

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<v Speaker 1>Ronda to talk about her grad school application. She wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to become a child psychologist, but until then she was

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<v Speaker 1>working to pay the bill. She worked a clerical job

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<v Speaker 1>with a shipping company, and on Friday nights she was

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<v Speaker 1>a go go dancer at an LGBT club in Long

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<v Speaker 1>Beach called Deborah's. My Trees lived with her great grandmother, Mildred,

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<v Speaker 1>in Inglewood, a neighborhood in South Los Angeles near lax.

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<v Speaker 1>Her father, Michael Richardson, had not been around much during

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<v Speaker 1>My Teresa's childhood, but she grew up. They started to

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<v Speaker 1>rebuild their relationship and they were in touch regularly. When

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<v Speaker 1>My Trees disappeared. My Trees had also recently come out

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<v Speaker 1>as a lesbian, and she started dating a boxer named Tessa.

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<v Speaker 1>Tessa and My Trees had broken up in the spring.

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<v Speaker 1>My Trees reportedly became fixated on a woman named Vanessa,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a regular at Deborah's, but Vanessa wasn't interested.

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<v Speaker 1>But My Trees also appeared to be suffering from some

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<v Speaker 1>mental health issues. After her disappearance, her mom, Lettie Sutton,

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<v Speaker 1>went through My Teresa's social media posts and what she

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<v Speaker 1>found there was disturbing. On my my Trees had posted

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever woke up at seven am crying on

0:16:10.885 --> 0:16:13.325
<v Speaker 1>a Saturday? Because now that you see the light, you

0:16:13.365 --> 0:16:16.085
<v Speaker 1>see all the people lost in the dark. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>my reality. In the days before her disappearance, my Teres

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<v Speaker 1>wrote on Facebook that she was not sleeping and her

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts appeared to be becoming more and more erratic and

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<v Speaker 1>had a kind of manic energy. Then on the day

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<v Speaker 1>she went missing, her boss said that she showed up

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<v Speaker 1>for work in a good mood. She went out for

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<v Speaker 1>lunch but didn't come back. This was totally out of

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<v Speaker 1>character for her. Then my Teres went back to her

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<v Speaker 1>great grandmother's house in Inglewood. She had some business cards

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<v Speaker 1>printed up with her dancer name Hazel on them, and

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<v Speaker 1>she pasted them all over the windows of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>After my Trees left that afternoon, my Teresa's aunt, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>found that she'd also left a strange note on her

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<v Speaker 1>husband's windshield with some nonsensical writing and the words black

0:17:06.685 --> 0:17:11.445
<v Speaker 1>woman scorned. Ronda also said my Trees had visited an

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<v Speaker 1>old professor of hers that day. The day before my

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<v Speaker 1>trees went missing. She had shown up to her old

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<v Speaker 1>college professor's office. So this is a woman who she really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, liked a lot, so showed up and the

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<v Speaker 1>office staff told her My treats like, you know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be out for a while because she

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<v Speaker 1>was teaching a class. My treets waited there for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and then eventually the professor came and the professor,

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<v Speaker 1>I know because I talked to the professor. The professor

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<v Speaker 1>thought that my truf was acting odd. So she walked

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<v Speaker 1>the trees over to and to a psychologist that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was in the same dome with her, in the hopes

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<v Speaker 1>that this person would get my treat some help. And

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<v Speaker 1>my treeth kind of picked up on it, and she

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<v Speaker 1>ran away and said, okay, that's fine, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to go be with my friends. So she left and

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<v Speaker 1>then she met up with her friends and she was

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<v Speaker 1>crying because, you know, the progressor didn't believe her and

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<v Speaker 1>thought that something was wrong with her. So everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>picking up on that something was wrong with her. She

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<v Speaker 1>was just acting on and she was posting on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of odd things, probably for twenty four hours straight,

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<v Speaker 1>constantly posting, and so one of the things that she posted,

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't remember, she posted this a toll on

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<v Speaker 1>her friends. I'd have to look at my notes, but

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<v Speaker 1>that the ocean was calling her, and so we believe

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<v Speaker 1>that that's why she went to Malibu, because the ocean

0:18:33.085 --> 0:18:38.805
<v Speaker 1>was calling her. We're driving out to Jeffrey's to retrace

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<v Speaker 1>my Teresa's steps the night she went missing. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>right now, we're going to Jeffrey's restaurant in Malibu, which

0:18:45.325 --> 0:18:48.085
<v Speaker 1>is along the Pacific Coast Highway, and it's the last

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<v Speaker 1>place where my Terse was. It's where she went the

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<v Speaker 1>night that she disappeared and where she was arrested and

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<v Speaker 1>taken into custody. So we're going to go and scope

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<v Speaker 1>it out, and then we're going to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>last hill Shriff station. Malibu, California, is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most famous cities in the world, known for its spectacular

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<v Speaker 1>beaches and breathtaking views. It's also home to one of

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<v Speaker 1>the country's most impressive restaurants, renowned for its natural beauty,

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<v Speaker 1>impeccable service, and fabulous cuisine. Jeffrey's Malibu, an ocean side

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<v Speaker 1>dining experience. From the way that my Trees was acting

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the day, we know that something wasn't quite right.

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<v Speaker 1>According to an LA magazine article written by Mike Kessler,

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<v Speaker 1>when my Trees got to Joffrey's, she did something pretty strange.

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<v Speaker 1>She got out of her car and into the valet's car.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the valet, Kenneth Cargle, asked my Trees what she

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<v Speaker 1>was doing there. She said it's subliminal and then started

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<v Speaker 1>muttering something about avenging the death of Michael Jackson. Kenneth

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<v Speaker 1>said he parked her car and when he came back,

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<v Speaker 1>he noticed that my Rise was still sitting in his

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<v Speaker 1>car going through a CD collection. Kenneth if he was

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<v Speaker 1>a music lover. When he said that he was, she

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<v Speaker 1>said she couldn't figure out how to get his car started.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite the strange behavior, Kenneth said that my Terse was

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<v Speaker 1>polite and friendly this entire time. Then my Teres asked

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<v Speaker 1>Kenneth if he had seen Vanessa, as if he knew

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<v Speaker 1>the person she was talking about. She told him to

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<v Speaker 1>keep an eye out for a girl with tattooed arms.

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa was most likely the girl that my Teresa's friends

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<v Speaker 1>and family said she had a crush on my Terce

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<v Speaker 1>then went to the hostess dan. That's where Caroline Paris

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<v Speaker 1>was stationed that night. She'd been working at Jeffrey's for

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<v Speaker 1>a few months. Caroline immediately noticed that my Terse was

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<v Speaker 1>acting a little strangely. She arrived near the hostess stand

0:20:48.605 --> 0:20:52.205
<v Speaker 1>where I worked, so I greeted her and asked if

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<v Speaker 1>she was having dinner with us, and said, you know't

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<v Speaker 1>let you come over towards me and we'll put your

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<v Speaker 1>name in the computer because I think she was standing

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<v Speaker 1>in it a sense, and we'll check you in for dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>But she didn't. She didn't respond to me, so I

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<v Speaker 1>went back to the host to stand myself. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'd gone up to her and I encouraged her to

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<v Speaker 1>come with me, but she didn't respond. So I went

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<v Speaker 1>back to the computer, saw what tables were available, got

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<v Speaker 1>a menu, and went back to her and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can follow me to a table, and she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>respond again, so I wasn't totally sure. Maybe she was

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<v Speaker 1>shy or I just led her to a table and

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<v Speaker 1>told her to enjoy her meal, and that's when she

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<v Speaker 1>responded for the first time, and she smiled back and

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<v Speaker 1>said thank you so much. After seating My Trees. The valet, Kenneth,

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<v Speaker 1>told Caroline that there was something off about My Trees

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<v Speaker 1>and told her about the odd comments My Trees had

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<v Speaker 1>made in his car. He also said My Trees had

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<v Speaker 1>told him she was there to avenge the death of

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson. And the valet told me all this thing

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't think she was dangerous. He just thought

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<v Speaker 1>something was off. That was a word we used that night,

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<v Speaker 1>if something was just off. So Caroline went over to

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<v Speaker 1>Jeoffrey's manager and said that they had a customer acting bizarrely.

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<v Speaker 1>He basically told her not to worry. This was Malibu,

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<v Speaker 1>which definitely saw it's share of eccentric characters. My Trees

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<v Speaker 1>sat at her table alone. She ordered an Ocean Breeze

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail and a Kobe steak. She started to eat, and

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<v Speaker 1>at some point she joined a large party of seven

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<v Speaker 1>people who were sitting nearby. Later, I did my rounds,

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<v Speaker 1>like walking around the tables, and I noticed that she

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten up from her table and moved to a

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<v Speaker 1>large party table, a table with several other people, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was talking and all the people were listening to her.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the customers got up from the table and

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<v Speaker 1>as they walked past me, I asked if everything was okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said that they used the word off, so

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<v Speaker 1>that something was off with the person who joined their table,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was harming anyone. I just at that point

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<v Speaker 1>just kept working. I didn't really think anything of it

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<v Speaker 1>because being in La things often seemed off to me.

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<v Speaker 1>They were really different than where I was from and Malibu.

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<v Speaker 1>We would get lots of different people out there, so

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<v Speaker 1>I just at that point wasn't concerned. And the depositions

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<v Speaker 1>of the people at the table my Teresa joined, They

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<v Speaker 1>said my Teresa's behavior was strange, but they said she

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<v Speaker 1>was friendly and animated. But it was not long before

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation took a turn for the bizarre. She said

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<v Speaker 1>she was from Mars and started talking about numerology and

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<v Speaker 1>how everything was connected. She said a soap opera character

0:23:45.845 --> 0:23:50.165
<v Speaker 1>had told her to drive there. Her server, Omar Martinez,

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<v Speaker 1>told Caroline and others that something seemed off. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the second person after the Valet to make that remark.

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<v Speaker 1>Omar had asked my Trees where she was from, and

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<v Speaker 1>he got a different answer from what she told people

0:24:02.605 --> 0:24:06.205
<v Speaker 1>at the table. Omar suspected my Trees might not pay

0:24:06.205 --> 0:24:10.245
<v Speaker 1>her bill. He said that he would make sure before

0:24:10.285 --> 0:24:11.925
<v Speaker 1>she left and let me know that she had paid,

0:24:12.885 --> 0:24:17.285
<v Speaker 1>and I said okay. He was said Genishal, probably just forget.

0:24:17.485 --> 0:24:19.365
<v Speaker 1>She might forget. I don't think it's that she doesn't

0:24:19.405 --> 0:24:21.765
<v Speaker 1>want to like. I think she just might forget to

0:24:21.765 --> 0:24:23.405
<v Speaker 1>do it, because you know, she's in some kind of

0:24:23.445 --> 0:24:29.085
<v Speaker 1>distracted state. At some point, the large party paid and left.

0:24:30.005 --> 0:24:32.405
<v Speaker 1>My Trees got up to leave as well. When she

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<v Speaker 1>got to the valet, the manager intercepted her and asked

0:24:35.565 --> 0:24:37.885
<v Speaker 1>her how she planned to pay her eighty nine dollars tab.

0:24:39.085 --> 0:24:42.245
<v Speaker 1>My Trees seemed surprised and said that the large party

0:24:42.285 --> 0:24:45.165
<v Speaker 1>should have covered her tab. My Trees then told him

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<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't understanding the language of numbers. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay for me not to pay the bill because

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<v Speaker 1>the language of numbers, when they coincide like this, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. At this point, the manager is starting to

0:25:00.765 --> 0:25:03.925
<v Speaker 1>suspect that something is seriously wrong. He asked her if

0:25:03.925 --> 0:25:06.285
<v Speaker 1>she had any money in her pockets, and, according to

0:25:06.325 --> 0:25:10.845
<v Speaker 1>his deposition, Mitrees said, I am busted. She then told

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<v Speaker 1>him that she was from Mars and made a comment

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<v Speaker 1>about settling her debt with sex. The manager was really

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<v Speaker 1>patient with her, and she seems really jovial. She was

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<v Speaker 1>laughing and joking and very lighthearted and friendly. He then

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<v Speaker 1>told her that he was going to have to call

0:25:26.685 --> 0:25:29.365
<v Speaker 1>the police if she couldn't pay for her bill, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said, okay, Losci Shore Station definish if I can

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<v Speaker 1>help you, Hi, I'm calling from Jeffrey's Restaurant, Malibu. This

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the Jeffrey servers on the phone with police.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a guest here who is refusing to pay

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<v Speaker 1>her bill, and you think she may she sounds really crazy,

0:25:46.685 --> 0:25:49.485
<v Speaker 1>she may be on drugs or something. We're wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>someone to come by and pick her up. And is

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<v Speaker 1>she a white, Black, Asian Hispanic? She's young black girls,

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<v Speaker 1>probably in her twenties. Okay, what you're wearing. She's wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a black T shirt and I think blue jeans with

0:26:05.685 --> 0:26:13.125
<v Speaker 1>anybody else her With the police on the way, My

0:26:13.205 --> 0:26:14.925
<v Speaker 1>Trees sat at the bar and then went over to

0:26:14.965 --> 0:26:18.525
<v Speaker 1>the hostess stand. That's when Caroline had a longer conversation

0:26:18.605 --> 0:26:21.165
<v Speaker 1>with my Trees. She felt like they had a connection

0:26:21.405 --> 0:26:23.365
<v Speaker 1>because both of them were in times of transition in

0:26:23.405 --> 0:26:27.165
<v Speaker 1>their lives. Caroline had recently moved to La to pursue acting,

0:26:27.525 --> 0:26:31.285
<v Speaker 1>but was realizing that she didn't actually want to do it. Likewise,

0:26:32.005 --> 0:26:34.325
<v Speaker 1>my Rise was figuring out her next steps in life.

0:26:35.725 --> 0:26:40.645
<v Speaker 1>That's when we interacted, and no one was with us

0:26:40.645 --> 0:26:42.445
<v Speaker 1>while we hung out for a few minutes. I asked

0:26:42.445 --> 0:26:44.045
<v Speaker 1>her her name and she told me it was my

0:26:44.165 --> 0:26:47.125
<v Speaker 1>Trees and she spelled it. I can still kind of

0:26:47.165 --> 0:26:51.565
<v Speaker 1>see I can still kind of see her face as

0:26:51.565 --> 0:26:57.045
<v Speaker 1>she spell I'm sorry, she felt all her name. She

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<v Speaker 1>smiled really brightly and said, M I t R I C.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, it's like mitt Rice. I told her my

0:27:05.165 --> 0:27:07.645
<v Speaker 1>name and asked her what her age was, and she said,

0:27:07.645 --> 0:27:10.525
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty four. Since we were almost the same age,

0:27:10.565 --> 0:27:13.005
<v Speaker 1>I told her that I was twenty five, and then

0:27:13.045 --> 0:27:16.325
<v Speaker 1>I told her and I told her my birthday and

0:27:16.325 --> 0:27:18.445
<v Speaker 1>that I was a Leo because I had heard her

0:27:18.525 --> 0:27:22.125
<v Speaker 1>mentioning signs to the table that she had joined earlier,

0:27:22.165 --> 0:27:25.365
<v Speaker 1>and she laughed and said, oh yeah, you Leo's are

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<v Speaker 1>the worst. We laughed, and we made small talk, and

0:27:29.725 --> 0:27:34.125
<v Speaker 1>then she made some additional odd comments about the language

0:27:34.125 --> 0:27:36.485
<v Speaker 1>of numbers, and I asked her if she was talking

0:27:36.485 --> 0:27:40.965
<v Speaker 1>about the binary system, and she said, what's that so

0:27:41.005 --> 0:27:42.645
<v Speaker 1>then I said, well, what do you mean about the

0:27:42.725 --> 0:27:45.925
<v Speaker 1>language of numbers? And she said, you know when a

0:27:46.005 --> 0:27:49.045
<v Speaker 1>number and a number coincide. You know what I mean, Caroline,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like she was talking to old friends

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<v Speaker 1>when she engaged with me or the manager. And at

0:27:54.005 --> 0:27:56.445
<v Speaker 1>that time I thought she was under the influence of

0:27:56.525 --> 0:27:59.325
<v Speaker 1>a drug or had some sort of mental illness, But

0:27:59.485 --> 0:28:03.525
<v Speaker 1>again I was younger and didn't really know what I

0:28:03.565 --> 0:28:07.525
<v Speaker 1>know now based on the way she spoke to me

0:28:07.565 --> 0:28:09.445
<v Speaker 1>out a feeling she had a lot going on and

0:28:09.605 --> 0:28:16.805
<v Speaker 1>was trying to keep it together. Caroline asked if there

0:28:16.845 --> 0:28:19.805
<v Speaker 1>was someone that she could call. My Trees said she

0:28:19.845 --> 0:28:22.605
<v Speaker 1>had no parents, but My Trees did give Caroline her

0:28:22.605 --> 0:28:26.885
<v Speaker 1>great grandmother's phone number, so Caroline called Mildred, who offered

0:28:26.885 --> 0:28:30.605
<v Speaker 1>to pay my Trees's bill, but Jeoffrey's had no system

0:28:30.645 --> 0:28:34.125
<v Speaker 1>for paying over the phone without a signature. Mildred was concerned.

0:28:34.805 --> 0:28:36.845
<v Speaker 1>She said she couldn't drive up to Malibu because she

0:28:36.885 --> 0:28:39.485
<v Speaker 1>was ninety one years old. My Trees got on the

0:28:39.525 --> 0:28:44.205
<v Speaker 1>phone with Mildred and reassured her she was fine. At

0:28:44.205 --> 0:28:49.445
<v Speaker 1>around nine pm, Frank Brower and Armando Lurero, both deputies

0:28:49.485 --> 0:28:52.205
<v Speaker 1>from the Lost Hills Sheriff's station showed up on the scene.

0:28:52.885 --> 0:28:57.285
<v Speaker 1>A third deputy, John McKay, arrived as well. When they

0:28:58.805 --> 0:29:03.205
<v Speaker 1>showed up, the police showed up and one of them

0:29:03.245 --> 0:29:06.765
<v Speaker 1>got on the phone with the great grandmother. It sounded

0:29:06.845 --> 0:29:09.925
<v Speaker 1>like she was trying to get all the details from

0:29:09.925 --> 0:29:12.245
<v Speaker 1>what I based off of what I could hear. It

0:29:12.325 --> 0:29:14.565
<v Speaker 1>sounded like she was asking him details because he was

0:29:14.605 --> 0:29:17.685
<v Speaker 1>giving her details as to where my Treuth was going

0:29:17.725 --> 0:29:22.525
<v Speaker 1>to be taken. While one of the officers was on

0:29:22.565 --> 0:29:25.005
<v Speaker 1>the phone with her, my trace told one of the

0:29:25.085 --> 0:29:28.485
<v Speaker 1>other deputies that she was scared and asked her and

0:29:28.525 --> 0:29:31.365
<v Speaker 1>the deputy asked her, why are you scared, and she said, well,

0:29:31.765 --> 0:29:34.525
<v Speaker 1>the city where I live in. If three officers walk

0:29:34.605 --> 0:29:36.565
<v Speaker 1>up to a girl like me, then it's a bad sign.

0:29:37.765 --> 0:29:40.125
<v Speaker 1>She also said I've had an officer if they needed me. Once.

0:29:41.405 --> 0:29:43.885
<v Speaker 1>I remember there was one deputy who was really kind

0:29:44.165 --> 0:29:46.565
<v Speaker 1>and said, look, I'm a person just like you, just

0:29:46.605 --> 0:29:50.965
<v Speaker 1>a normal person. They just made me aware of this uniform.

0:29:51.485 --> 0:29:54.005
<v Speaker 1>My Treece said okay, and seemed to be comforted by that.

0:29:55.285 --> 0:29:57.525
<v Speaker 1>And she said, okay, I want to talk to you

0:29:57.685 --> 0:30:01.245
<v Speaker 1>to one of the deputies, and it seemed like a

0:30:01.325 --> 0:30:05.045
<v Speaker 1>kind of cordial exchange, and one of the deputies started

0:30:05.085 --> 0:30:13.725
<v Speaker 1>asking her questions. I at that point felt really sad

0:30:13.805 --> 0:30:17.605
<v Speaker 1>about what was happening, and I didn't want to watch

0:30:17.885 --> 0:30:20.165
<v Speaker 1>her get arrested if that was what was going to happen.

0:30:20.245 --> 0:30:22.725
<v Speaker 1>So I went to the break room for about five

0:30:22.805 --> 0:30:27.445
<v Speaker 1>or ten minutes, which so I didn't see what was happening.

0:30:28.885 --> 0:30:33.045
<v Speaker 1>Deputies McKay and Brower searched my Teresa's cluttered car. They

0:30:33.085 --> 0:30:35.005
<v Speaker 1>would later say the car looked like it had been

0:30:35.045 --> 0:30:38.805
<v Speaker 1>trashed and maybe even lived in. The deputies found my

0:30:38.885 --> 0:30:42.805
<v Speaker 1>Teresa's driver's license, along with marijuana scraps and partially finished

0:30:42.845 --> 0:30:46.965
<v Speaker 1>bottles of booze. In a later deposition, Brower said Lurero

0:30:47.085 --> 0:30:51.245
<v Speaker 1>told him that my Terce was possibly drunk making odd statements.

0:30:51.725 --> 0:30:54.765
<v Speaker 1>For this reason, Brower said he was instructed to administer

0:30:54.805 --> 0:30:57.885
<v Speaker 1>a field sobriety test. Brower said that he checked my

0:30:57.925 --> 0:31:01.445
<v Speaker 1>Teresa's eyes and pulse to complete the test to determine

0:31:01.485 --> 0:31:04.605
<v Speaker 1>that she was sober. He estimated the test took around

0:31:04.685 --> 0:31:08.245
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes, though Lrrero would later state in his deposition

0:31:08.325 --> 0:31:11.205
<v Speaker 1>that he did not order Broward administer any sobriety test.

0:31:12.645 --> 0:31:15.605
<v Speaker 1>Brower asked my trees if she was on medication and

0:31:15.645 --> 0:31:17.765
<v Speaker 1>if she had ever been placed on a seventy two

0:31:17.805 --> 0:31:21.725
<v Speaker 1>hour hold. My Treece said no, she was asthmatic and

0:31:21.805 --> 0:31:25.765
<v Speaker 1>had an inhaler, but that was it. At that point,

0:31:25.845 --> 0:31:29.485
<v Speaker 1>employees at Jeoffrey's considered paying my Teres's bill themselves so

0:31:29.485 --> 0:31:32.165
<v Speaker 1>she could walk with only a misdemeanor ticket for pot possession.

0:31:33.325 --> 0:31:35.605
<v Speaker 1>The manager and some of the other staff were worried

0:31:35.645 --> 0:31:37.605
<v Speaker 1>that my Treece may not be safe behind the wheel

0:31:37.645 --> 0:31:40.205
<v Speaker 1>of a car, so they did what they thought was

0:31:40.205 --> 0:31:43.325
<v Speaker 1>the safest thing for her. They made sure that she

0:31:43.405 --> 0:31:46.885
<v Speaker 1>went with the police. My Treece was charged with the

0:31:46.925 --> 0:31:50.565
<v Speaker 1>defrauding and innkeeper and possession of marijuana. She was placed

0:31:50.605 --> 0:31:53.085
<v Speaker 1>under arrest, put into the back of the police car,

0:31:53.445 --> 0:32:02.885
<v Speaker 1>and taken to the Lost Hill station. While my Triese

0:32:02.925 --> 0:32:05.365
<v Speaker 1>was still on the back of the police cruiser, her mother,

0:32:05.685 --> 0:32:08.965
<v Speaker 1>Latise called the station. I am calling. I'm a little

0:32:09.005 --> 0:32:11.725
<v Speaker 1>strapped up right now. I understand my daughter is being

0:32:11.765 --> 0:32:15.685
<v Speaker 1>brought into the station. My Terce Richard's son. Has they

0:32:15.805 --> 0:32:19.645
<v Speaker 1>made it to the station yet and she's been booked? Okay?

0:32:19.725 --> 0:32:22.805
<v Speaker 1>Is do you know where she's coming from? It's some

0:32:23.205 --> 0:32:27.085
<v Speaker 1>onstaurant out in Malibu, and I didn't even think to

0:32:27.125 --> 0:32:29.805
<v Speaker 1>get the name the manager. The only place we have

0:32:29.885 --> 0:32:32.565
<v Speaker 1>somebody that's in custody that they just announced on the

0:32:32.645 --> 0:32:36.645
<v Speaker 1>radio that they're coming up as from Jeffrey's in Jo Highway.

0:32:37.445 --> 0:32:39.365
<v Speaker 1>Is the only female that's bringing brought up to the

0:32:39.365 --> 0:32:41.565
<v Speaker 1>station as we speak. They actually just put it on

0:32:41.565 --> 0:32:45.725
<v Speaker 1>the radio right before you call it. Okay, okay, I'm

0:32:45.805 --> 0:32:48.645
<v Speaker 1>her mother, and are you guys want to book her

0:32:48.685 --> 0:32:52.325
<v Speaker 1>and then release her on her own recognian tonight because

0:32:52.885 --> 0:32:54.965
<v Speaker 1>it's dark, she doesn't have a car, and I don't

0:32:54.965 --> 0:32:58.765
<v Speaker 1>want her wandering out. I'm totally just taken aback because

0:32:58.765 --> 0:33:01.965
<v Speaker 1>it's so out of character for her, and you'll see

0:33:02.085 --> 0:33:05.005
<v Speaker 1>when she comes in she's well spoken. I think the

0:33:05.045 --> 0:33:07.045
<v Speaker 1>only way I will come and get her tonight is

0:33:07.085 --> 0:33:09.725
<v Speaker 1>if you guys are going to release her tonight, it's

0:33:09.845 --> 0:33:12.085
<v Speaker 1>going to be held in custody for some type of

0:33:12.205 --> 0:33:16.045
<v Speaker 1>arraignment tomorrow. Then I will wait until tomorrow. She definitely

0:33:16.085 --> 0:33:18.125
<v Speaker 1>has no place, you know, I mean, she's not from

0:33:18.125 --> 0:33:21.085
<v Speaker 1>that area, and I would hate to wake up to

0:33:21.125 --> 0:33:24.925
<v Speaker 1>a morning report so lost somewhere with her head chopped off.

0:33:25.085 --> 0:33:26.725
<v Speaker 1>So I guess I would have to come and get her.

0:33:26.765 --> 0:33:28.525
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yeah, we're in a great hose. The

0:33:28.525 --> 0:33:30.285
<v Speaker 1>only thing is, at least in the station here she

0:33:30.365 --> 0:33:34.045
<v Speaker 1>will be separated, so nobody's going to be with her certainly,

0:33:34.165 --> 0:33:35.845
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, the fust thing. So she don't have

0:33:35.845 --> 0:33:38.845
<v Speaker 1>to worry about her safety. Oh yeah, no, I feel

0:33:38.885 --> 0:33:41.845
<v Speaker 1>safe with her being in custody. It's being released, but

0:33:41.925 --> 0:33:53.485
<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about it. It's crazy out here. Early the

0:33:53.525 --> 0:33:57.445
<v Speaker 1>next morning, Latise called the station again. This time she

0:33:57.525 --> 0:34:01.285
<v Speaker 1>talked to the jailer. She your own Cummings. Cummings told

0:34:01.285 --> 0:34:04.845
<v Speaker 1>the tease that my Trees had already been released. The

0:34:04.925 --> 0:34:08.325
<v Speaker 1>jailer said she had released my Trees at twelve fifteen am.

0:34:08.765 --> 0:34:11.605
<v Speaker 1>At this point, my Treese was forty miles from home.

0:34:12.485 --> 0:34:15.125
<v Speaker 1>Cummings has maintained that My Trees declined an offer to

0:34:15.165 --> 0:34:18.045
<v Speaker 1>stay in the lobby and said that she told Cummings

0:34:18.045 --> 0:34:20.845
<v Speaker 1>that she was going to meet friends. But the reality

0:34:20.925 --> 0:34:24.005
<v Speaker 1>is my Treece had no car, no purse, no money,

0:34:24.245 --> 0:34:27.885
<v Speaker 1>no cell phone, and no way home. And at night,

0:34:28.165 --> 0:34:31.685
<v Speaker 1>the area around Lost Hills Station is pitch black. All

0:34:31.685 --> 0:34:35.685
<v Speaker 1>the businesses are closed, there are no buses, there's no

0:34:35.765 --> 0:34:39.965
<v Speaker 1>public transportation. My trees walked out of the station at

0:34:40.005 --> 0:34:45.565
<v Speaker 1>around twelve forty am into the darkness. Later, Latisse called again.

0:34:46.565 --> 0:34:50.725
<v Speaker 1>This time she spoke to Kenneth Bombgardner. She asked him

0:34:50.725 --> 0:34:53.285
<v Speaker 1>how long she had to wait to follow missing persons report.

0:34:54.045 --> 0:34:59.365
<v Speaker 1>By this point you can hear the desperation in Latis's voice.

0:34:59.725 --> 0:35:03.925
<v Speaker 1>Ma Field Station bomb Gardener. Yes, Hi, my name is Latise.

0:35:03.965 --> 0:35:06.325
<v Speaker 1>That night car. That's too long ago regarding my daughter

0:35:06.405 --> 0:35:10.325
<v Speaker 1>my treats, which is how long before a missing person's

0:35:10.365 --> 0:35:14.925
<v Speaker 1>report can be found. This phone call led to months

0:35:14.965 --> 0:35:20.405
<v Speaker 1>of searching for my Trees. Next time on Helen Gone,

0:35:20.485 --> 0:35:23.885
<v Speaker 1>it just didn't ring true to me that she went missing,

0:35:24.085 --> 0:35:27.165
<v Speaker 1>and I think she was considered to be inexpendable, young

0:35:27.725 --> 0:35:31.565
<v Speaker 1>Likeaeloman from South la. It's a fifty mile long range

0:35:31.605 --> 0:35:34.325
<v Speaker 1>and you could theoretically walk for a long way and

0:35:34.405 --> 0:35:37.965
<v Speaker 1>not hit anything. And where my trease was found was

0:35:38.325 --> 0:35:42.365
<v Speaker 1>five steps from the starting area of the twenty seven

0:35:42.485 --> 0:35:45.245
<v Speaker 1>square miles that they were going to start looking. It

0:35:45.285 --> 0:35:47.285
<v Speaker 1>continues like this, I'm going to go ahead and say

0:35:47.285 --> 0:35:49.685
<v Speaker 1>there's no way she walked to herself. I'm now more

0:35:49.725 --> 0:35:54.845
<v Speaker 1>convinced that she did not walk here. Helen Gone is

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<v Speaker 1>a production of School of Humans and iHeartRadio. It's written

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<v Speaker 1>and narrated by me Catherine Townsend. Our producers are Gabby Watts,

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Church and James Morrison. Music is by Ben Sale.

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<v Speaker 1>Mix is by Tunewelders. Our executive producers are Brandon Barr,

0:36:10.765 --> 0:36:15.405
<v Speaker 1>Elsie Crowley and Brian Lavin. Special thanks to Chip Craft

0:36:15.485 --> 0:36:35.205
<v Speaker 1>for use of footage from his documentary Loss Compassion, School

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<v Speaker 1>of Humans. School of Humans