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Speaker 1: less today I'm stealing Jeff Centro. There. Hi, It's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: March thirty first, twenty twenty two. It's time for another

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Speaker 1: episode of the Draft Show. Make sure you pay your rent.

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Speaker 1: are ready for the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. It

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Speaker 1: will be Draft month in what twelve hours? Fourteen hours?

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Speaker 1: David Hellman back in the studio. I am back from

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Speaker 1: the NFL owners meetings. It's good to be here. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us and Jeff Kavanaugh. Guys, how are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Doing great? Did you feel like you were told to

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Speaker 1: truth when you're asking? Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones questions

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Speaker 1: about the draft. I feel like I was told the

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Speaker 1: how much I trust the did you like particular positions

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Speaker 1: I know. I went back and listened to the show

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Speaker 1: that y'all did without me, and that's the line Jerry

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Speaker 1: don't know if Tyron Smith needs to be replaced now

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Speaker 1: draft is where all of their chips are this year,

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Speaker 1: which is great news for us because it gives us

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. Um, I get the feeling

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Speaker 1: and the scouts realize that too. Scouts are okay with that,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, these guys have been together a

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Speaker 1: long time. They know the drill, they know what's you know.

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Speaker 1: They know they don't dabble in free agency like most

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Speaker 1: And I assume that comes with a degree of confidence, right,

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Speaker 1: bummer for the Cowboys. I would say, Mike, Well, it's

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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams make twenty four, because I think what's gonna

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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams. I bet you one of them is there.

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Speaker 1: and he fits in that range, does he not? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Where would you put him? I would say to me.

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Speaker 1: He was in the fourth round is where I had him.

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Speaker 1: I just I look at him and I don't remember

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Speaker 1: it's time for another edition of Twitter on the and

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Speaker 1: I tease this in the first segment. I didn't want

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Speaker 1: right out on the air. So Aaron, Aaron wants to

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Speaker 1: know about Brian Asimoa, the OU linebacker, senior Bowl guy.

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing him down there. I don't know a

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Speaker 1: ton else about him. I would love for y'all to

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Speaker 1: to fix that, please. He's fun. He is U the

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Speaker 1: anti Leo Chanal. Like Leo Chanal at Wisconsin is six

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Speaker 1: two two sixty of charging Bowl. Asamoa is what is

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Speaker 1: the over six foot but not quite six one two

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Speaker 1: twenty eight. Yea six ft two twenty six and dude runs.

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Speaker 1: That's what he does. He is your weak side linebacker

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Speaker 1: that you'd tell the defensive line, hey, nobody touches Assamoa.

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Speaker 1: He gets to run and chase the ball and tackle

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Speaker 1: everybody because he's one of those linebackers that can absolutely fly.

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Speaker 1: He's just a really good athlete, which means that he

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Speaker 1: can do things in coverage that some of these bigger

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Speaker 1: plot of your guys can't do. So Assomo I think

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Speaker 1: is probably a second or third round pick, and he

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Speaker 1: could probably be a starting weak side linebacker as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: I said this. He looks short on tape, but he's

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Speaker 1: but he's anything but that. I mean, this guy plays

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Speaker 1: really really hard. And I said there were several times

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Speaker 1: where he was just right in the quarterback's face after

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Speaker 1: he took the snap. I mean he was just like

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Speaker 1: that quick. And so he's got a feel for how

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Speaker 1: to find how to get to the ball, and he's

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Speaker 1: got a knack for creating turnover. So it just watching

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Speaker 1: the Baylor game, and I mean he knocked the ball loose,

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Speaker 1: and I mean it with like a really good physical tackle.

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Speaker 1: And so here's see you guys six foot two, twenty

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Speaker 1: six year thinking, Oh, he's gonna get bounced and things

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Speaker 1: like that. No, this guy takes the fight to you.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't see him get knocked back at all.

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Speaker 1: And I think Jeff hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 1: Because of how athletic is, you can use him in coverage,

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Speaker 1: and you can use him really wide too. You can

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Speaker 1: have him not just drop and play the hook or

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Speaker 1: something like that. I think he can actually cover. I

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Speaker 1: think he can actually run with people. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's a real plus to him as well. If he

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Speaker 1: can fly, cover and tackle. I mean that's all the

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Speaker 1: stuff that a linebackers really needs supposed to be good.

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Speaker 1: At I mean, where where do you how highly do

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Speaker 1: you have this guy? Like Jeff's right, second round you're

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Speaker 1: just going off your description and you're describing a top

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Speaker 1: fifty pick. No, he's a second round player. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I was looking through my notes just as you were

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Speaker 1: talking there. I mentioned it here. There were there were

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Speaker 1: several times these games I was watching where he had

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Speaker 1: stops to keep the ball here from getting a first down.

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Speaker 1: So that that tells you something that like you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you see these guys get you know, drug for

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Speaker 1: another uh, you know, for the first down, yardage and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. This guy didn't do that, So I

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Speaker 1: mean I have him in the second round. Keeping with

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Speaker 1: the linebacker theme, real quick, Derek wants to know about

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Speaker 1: our guy Daman Clark. Unfortunately, it came out that he

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Speaker 1: needs neck fusion surgery or something like that. Probably won't

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Speaker 1: get drafted at all. You don't think that's that's the

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Speaker 1: question is how far do you knock him down there?

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't think you'll get drafted at all,

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Speaker 1: even the report, And I mean, of course we don't

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Speaker 1: know that he could specifics of the medical six or

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Speaker 1: seventh round. Then you know, when you start to talk

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Speaker 1: about that is like, what at what point would you

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Speaker 1: start talking about neck fusion on your board? I mean

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Speaker 1: I have I know, on my board, I have him

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Speaker 1: as a second round grade. I also have him in red. No,

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Speaker 1: when you know there's there's a couple of players him

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Speaker 1: in our Michigan defensive end, I have red highlights on him.

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Speaker 1: No wing that okay, this is where I graded him.

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Speaker 1: But the medicals Na David A Jabo. Yeah I was

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Speaker 1: for a second, I was like, what's wrong with a?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, now you're sorrying about that? But the thing

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Speaker 1: I haven't been read and I know and he could

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Speaker 1: not he might not go drafted because of until people

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Speaker 1: can really get handle on that surgery. I'm changing the

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Speaker 1: color of the text on some of my players now

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Speaker 1: because that's a good idea by Brian. That's because without Jabo,

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Speaker 1: I literally just moved him to where I would take him. No,

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Speaker 1: I just did do that with Clark. No, because I

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Speaker 1: had already disrespected Clark with where I ranked him initially. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't like Clark, I remember that. Yeah, that's you know,

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Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. I want to give the

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Speaker 1: guys their due where they where they should be taken.

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Speaker 1: I put him in red because then we get started

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Speaker 1: on the draft. Well, who's your best player available? Well

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Speaker 1: it's a clark. No, it's not because and you know

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Speaker 1: and you know now because he's not because the medical

572
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Speaker 1: stuff's going to knock him out. That's really tough to hear.

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Speaker 1: The report the reporter is that he's expected to make

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Speaker 1: a full recovery. Hope that he does. Good player. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of players too. The wide receiver Clemson

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Speaker 1: might be justin Ross. Ross might be I mean, he

577
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Speaker 1: came back, but people probably maybe they're looking at his

578
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Speaker 1: situation too. There's a couple of guys in this draft

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Speaker 1: that that have those medical conditions. That's that's the that's

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Speaker 1: the danger that we run into a media scouts is

581
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Speaker 1: we put guys on board and into the combine. We

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Speaker 1: didn't know that they've got a narrow spine canal or

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Speaker 1: something like that that's keeping him from drafting him. We're

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Speaker 1: working with like twenty eight percent of the picture here.

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Speaker 1: It feels like there's no question where do y'all have

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Speaker 1: Where y'all have David Bell? Where is he on your board?

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Speaker 1: The perdue receiver? Day three, like how far. This is

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Speaker 1: one of the things that we're talking about before the show,

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Speaker 1: not into a microphone where I think old school scouts

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Speaker 1: might hate me sometimes, where I would say, David on tape,

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Speaker 1: you'd be like, maybe third round, that's where I put

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Speaker 1: him fourth. And then when I confirm that he's a

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Speaker 1: four six five four seven guy that's also small, I

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Speaker 1: would be like, you know, when our pick comes up,

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Speaker 1: and if we're gonna talk about receivers, I'm probably just

596
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Speaker 1: gonna have some other guys in front of him, so

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Speaker 1: I probably don't worry about David Bell, which that's why

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Speaker 1: I asked, because when you brought up our Darius Washington,

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Speaker 1: I saw David Bell's times from Purdue Pro Day yesterday

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Speaker 1: and I was just like, I can imagine we're gonna

601
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Speaker 1: be there on Saturday and we're just gonna keep saying like, oh,

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Speaker 1: David Bell is still hanging around. I think on date

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Speaker 1: I think on day three, you can like you can

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Speaker 1: start having your fights between people where it's like, guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't care the tape, look at the tape like

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Speaker 1: he is draftable, and then you'll have another guy who's like, hey,

607
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Speaker 1: but this guy with terrible tape is an incredible athlete,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, let's battle it out. So

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Speaker 1: I bet David Bell is a fourth or fifth round pick.

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Speaker 1: Somewhat related question from Mark I just thinking. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know he's not fast when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: time time speed. I don't think it did those guys

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Speaker 1: and he favored or run in those conditions out outside

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Speaker 1: it per Due loft is out random didn't He ran

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Speaker 1: a four seven one out four seven, But he didn't

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Speaker 1: do a whole lot different in inside of what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying though, But if you want to give yourself a

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Speaker 1: chance to maybe improve, yeah, you didn't do yourself any

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Speaker 1: favors going outside and running in thirty degree weather. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I still this is the old Krusty and me.

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Speaker 1: But I'll always give a guy credit for being like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: line it up, I'll do it. I don't like the

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Speaker 1: guy that that that sits on it. It's not true

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Speaker 1: that you'll give him credit for it. Why because we're

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Speaker 1: doing a show right now where he's not getting credit

626
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Speaker 1: for it. No, but I care. I care way more

627
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Speaker 1: about what he did at the at the combine than

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Speaker 1: I do about Perdue. Pro day. We're all killing Hamilton

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Speaker 1: right now because he went out and ran four seven.

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Speaker 1: I heard fighting Hamilton didn't run. No, there's nobody's saying

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Speaker 1: anything about Hamilton's I mean he doesn't think the tape's great,

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Speaker 1: and that's okay. I mean I respect that. But if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't run, if he doesn't run, it notre dame.

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Speaker 1: You know, now you're you're now you're in a situation

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Speaker 1: where now he has ammunitions. Say watch, I told you

636
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Speaker 1: the guy played at four seven. I told you that.

637
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: You know, that's the argument that people will use. I

638
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: just think with Jaron Curse back in the building, he's

639
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: sort of redundant for this team. Um sure, I mean

640
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: he and he's right, and that's what he said. He says,

641
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: if you know, if you want to talk about a

642
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: similar player, I mean, if far as what you do

643
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: with this football team, yes, this guy plays down tackles

644
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: really well. You know, I think he probably covers a

645
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: little bit better. This this sort of ties into what

646
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: we're talking about, is this question from Mark. I just

647
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, can y'all elaborate? Basically, his question was like,

648
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: if you watch a guy on tape, he like his hands,

649
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: you feel good about his speed, he's talking about receiver specifically,

650
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: but it can be anybody guy's route tree. You finish

651
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: it up and you say, okay, he's a second round pick.

652
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: Like what what are the key delineation lines that you

653
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: look for when you're like, this is a first round guy,

654
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: this is second round guy. Because you like a lot

655
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: of stuff about guys that you put in the second

656
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: and third round, but what ultimately stops you from giving

657
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: them that best grade possible? I think it's just I

658
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: cheat even further because to me, it's just a way

659
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: to tier different players, where if I say a guy

660
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: as a first round grade, it means that if I

661
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: had a top ten pick, I'm okay picking him. If

662
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: I got a guy who's got a one two cheater

663
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: grade or a second round grade, and I get into

664
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: the mid twenties, okay, then I can pick from those guys.

665
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: I guess it's just my way of separating tiers. But

666
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: ultimately you're also separating If you're gonna use a first

667
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: round pick, then you are projecting. Okay, I think this

668
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: guy's an NFL starter from day one, and not a

669
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: bad one, maybe a good one immediately. And if you

670
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: take a second round pick, then I think in most

671
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: cases you're saying, I've graded this guy as a second

672
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: rounder because I think he can be an NFL star,

673
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: or for me, that develops into a good one. Now

674
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: I go to the third round, I think that guy's

675
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: going to contribute for my football team as a rookie

676
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: and develop into a starter potentially. And then you get

677
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: to four or five, six, seven, where you're throwing darts

678
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: at well, I like this about him, and we'll see.

679
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: So I think you kind of separated that way. Instant

680
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: starter that I expect to be good. Second round, instant

681
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: starter that I hope is good, and I expect to

682
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: be good later. Third round hopefully starts in year two

683
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: or three. It's traits. It's traits with me, it's it's

684
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: it's you. It's your deficiencies. You know, if you're not

685
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: quick enough, if you're not fast enough, if you your

686
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: hands aren't good enough, if you are not a good

687
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: route runner. You know, it's the it's the things I

688
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: start off. If if if you, if I could check

689
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: off boxes, he does this, this, this, this, and this,

690
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: I can give you a really really good grade if

691
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: you're if you're deficient, and say three of the five things.

692
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: I can't give you a good grade because there's there's

693
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: position specifics that you look for to play the position. Now,

694
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: there's some guys that are that take that. You know,

695
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: like for example, there's there's you know, I you know,

696
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: uh Marcus Jones, my guy from Houston, right, the cornerback

697
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: that's that's playing here here are six foot tall. You'd

698
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: have a one on him bingo. I mean, you know,

699
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: because you look at you look at him and you're saying, okay,

700
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: he's five eight, but this is what keeps him from

701
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: being this level to me because I've seen this, this, this,

702
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: and this play in this league. Now it's not always

703
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: I mean there's guys that defy that, but there's also

704
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: guys that you say, no, this is the reason why.

705
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: And there's guys that say, you know what, I tried

706
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: to put him in that round and draft him, and

707
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: I and I took I took a blind eye to

708
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: the deficiencies just because I thought maybe a gut and

709
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: then it busts on you. So I look at I

710
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: look at traits, and I look at those positions specifics.

711
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: But again, there's sometimes there's that rare, rare, rare, rare

712
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: guy that defies all that it ends up being a

713
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: great player. It's the time of year where people are

714
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: always trying to problem solve, and I appreciate that. I've

715
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: seen this brought up a few times. I would love

716
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: y'all's take on it. It's not necessarily related to this

717
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: draft class, but people are talking about the idea of

718
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: if all else fails, ask Zack Martin to play left

719
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: guard and move Connor McGovern into that right guard spot.

720
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? My gut reaction is

721
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: to dismiss it, because why would you move the best

722
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: guard in football out of his position? But I'd be

723
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: curious for your take on it. I think you need

724
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to me that that's not

725
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: a terrible question. And I think the reason I know

726
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: why people are bringing this up it's because McGovern played

727
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: right guard in Tampa in the season opener while Zach

728
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: had covid and played a lot better than he did

729
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: at left guard. I understand the logic. I think that

730
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: I think, to me, you should be able to ask

731
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: any type of question like that when you watched how

732
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: things went the last ten games for this football team

733
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: at the second half of the year, and you know,

734
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: and again there were some games where there were blowouts

735
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I get it. But when you

736
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: look at your inability to run the football and their

737
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: inability to protect at times and all that that went in,

738
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: I think I think all all situations, all questions are open.

739
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: There's nothing that would I would say, well, that's a

740
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: terrible idea. No. I mean, it's about putting your best

741
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: five there. It's always been about the best five in

742
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: my opinion, you think that would make a significant difference.

743
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: I think it would probably help. I think it would

744
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: help McGovern. But the problem I think with McGovern is

745
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: that he's got a coach that's not too happy with him.

746
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: That he's got a coach that doesn't see what you

747
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: and I and everybody out there and Jeff we're talking about.

748
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe trying it right. See, the thing that

749
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: I would have done. The thing I would have done

750
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: is I would have tried to play law Collins at

751
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: guard and then put Since you love steal so much,

752
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: go ahead and put Collins at guard and see how

753
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: that works. And if that didn't work, if that didn't

754
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: get better, then you can move on from Lyle Collins.

755
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: But we will never know that if could they have,

756
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: because they could have, what if it would have worked,

757
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: then maybe you don't get rid of Layle Collins, you know.

758
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: So that's that to me is I want to exhaust

759
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: all possibilities, and if one of them is making moving

760
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: Zach Martin over to left guard. Now, people will say,

761
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: you know most teams are right handed running the football

762
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: that you want, you know, you want, you need, you

763
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: need him playing next to Steal because Steal is not

764
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: that strong. But maybe McGovern is that guy. Maybe McGovern

765
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: is strong enough to hold up over there. Yeah, I

766
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: think if that makes your best five, it's not a

767
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: dumb question at all. It just seems a little jarring

768
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: when you first hear it. That's what you're talking about

769
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: the right guard who's been a right guard his whole

770
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: career in scoring everyone and then you go right. But

771
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: I've also seen that right guard play right tackle and

772
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: he was great. And that right guard I've seen play

773
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: left tackle and he was great. So if that right

774
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: guard could step over to left guard and not have

775
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: a drop off, the other guy, who if we had

776
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: to play today would be starting, is a bad left guard,

777
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: and he might be an okay right guard. If that

778
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: makes your best five, it makes sense. It just sounds weird,

779
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: and it's also it doesn't feel fair to be like, hey,

780
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: you're the one rock on this whole thing. You're being

781
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: punished for this. But yeah, no, I mean whoever said

782
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: it was fair trying to win? No jarring? Then moving

783
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: all pro LEI all in the left tackle from left guard,

784
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: no jarring than that, the badasses can do whatever. Yeah,

785
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying to me. You've got to figure out.

786
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: You've got to figure out what's going on at that

787
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: left guard spot. I've got to figure that out. I

788
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: think the answer like there. I mean, Jerry y'all talked

789
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: about it. Jerry said it himself like cumhell or high water.

790
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna find a they're going to address that, and

791
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: so I think that will prevent them from having to

792
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: do it. But I don't think it's a bad question. No,

793
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: it's not at all. U last one real quick. We're

794
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: running out of time. It's okay, I just a fun,

795
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: little fun little would you rather? We're running out of

796
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: time in my imaginary clock of what the segment should be,

797
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: not anything else. I just like to watch myself on

798
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: the screen. Yeah, and freaked me out. You look like

799
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: my dog. Um. Would you rather come out of the

800
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: big you know, the big picks of this drafts annoying.

801
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: It's not necessary coming from you. When you're gone, he

802
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: becomes annoying. Your dogs never shut up. Would you rather

803
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: come out of this draft with Arkansas receiver Trailing Burks

804
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: and Memphis center Dylan Parham, okay Parham, Parham sorry? Or

805
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: or Iowa center Tyler Linderbaum and Jalen Tulbert the South

806
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: Alabama guy receiver. I would yeah, yeah, I thought you

807
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: would like that one. I thought you would like that one.

808
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: I like Burks considerably more than Tilbert, and I obviously

809
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: like Linderbaumb considerably more than Parum. That's what makes this fun.

810
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: I will take option B. Give me a first round

811
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: graded player and a second round graded player, because that

812
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: first one is more of a one two and a

813
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: two three. So I'm gonna go on grades. Give me

814
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: Linderbaum and Jalen Tilbert. If you gave me Burks and

815
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: Fortner from Kentucky. That wasn't the question allowed to just

816
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: start swap this is we didn't say your own way. Yeah,

817
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I would make one would be my

818
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: selection all day. Okay, if but with with the way

819
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: it is currently configured, give me the Iowa Center and

820
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: that kid from a Jalen Tilbert Tilbert. Yeah, so y'all,

821
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: but y'all agree on that you'd rather have the I'll disagree.

822
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: If you just want us to fight, no, I don't

823
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: do it. I don't care. But we'd like that. It's

824
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: as easy as just saying linderbaumb is your highest graded

825
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: player of all of those four, right, Yeah, that'd be

826
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: the best possible player. Yeah. I don't disagree with that.

827
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. I feel like we were

828
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: we were big on linder bomb for the very beginning,

829
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: and then it got boring and we dropped off, and

830
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: now I'm coming back around, like, you know, that would

831
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: be pretty fun. I wouldn't. I wouldn't dislike that one bit.

832
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: The draft stuff is funny because, like you mentioned, Fedarian

833
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: mathis at Alabama. Yeah, and after the Senior Bowl, I

834
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: feel like we had this group of defensive tackles that

835
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: everyone was talking about and they were all going to

836
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: be second round picks. And then now the Senior Bowl

837
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: is far enough away that it's like, wait, a minute.

838
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: That was just like a one technique who had a

839
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: nice week. Yeah, that's not overreact guys, and it all

840
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: just kind of moves around. Watch Watch Davis, Travis Jones.

841
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: Why all these defensive tackles, maybe Logan Hall watch them

842
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: all go in the first round, every one of those guys.

843
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't rule anything out right, just again,

844
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: like because of the way that this whole thing is

845
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: that it would not surprise me. All Right, one more

846
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895
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: One more segment here with Brian and Jeff. I wanted

896
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: to I wanted to try to mix it up. Um,

897
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: I think you guys can agree, there's only so much

898
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: you can say about words. Well, no, you can talk forever.

899
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Speaker 1: The English language has like two million words or whatever.

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00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: Most of them don't makes sense. I mean just there's

901
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: only there's just only so much you can do about

902
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: pick twenty four and pick fifty six and receiver O

903
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: lineman like all that. I mean, we get it right.

904
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: But I wanted to try to have a conversation about

905
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: what Day three is going to look like for the Cowboys.

906
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: Obviously that's going to hinge on what happens with pick

907
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: twenty four, fifty six, and eighty eight. But they're gonna

908
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: make the vast majority of their picks on Saturday. Six

909
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: of the nine I've got them written down here. They

910
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: pick one twenty ninth, and then starting in the fifth round,

911
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: they're gonna pick five times in about forty picks one

912
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: fifty five, one sixty seven, one seventy six, one seventy eight,

913
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: and one ninety three. Actually I misspoke. We have no

914
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: idea if they will pick that many times. Because you

915
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: could do a lot of stuff with it, which I

916
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: just kind of wanted to have a conversation knowing that

917
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: it's borderline impossible to answer, just about what you can

918
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: accomplish with those picks and what you would like to accomplish,

919
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: and you can take that in any direction you want to,

920
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: if you want to try to trade it for a

921
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: veteran or move up in another round. You just you

922
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: got a lot of resources to play with on Saturday,

923
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: and I'd love to kind of get your feel for

924
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: how you'd like to spend them. The Cowboys still at

925
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: this point have about fifteen million dollars to play with.

926
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: Now you'll need to account for the first three round

927
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: picks first year cap hits, but so they've got ten

928
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: million dollars to play with or whatever. I'm keep in mind.

929
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: They will get a lot of that money. They will

930
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: get in June with the savings from the Lyle Collins cut.

931
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: Like they don't have that right now, Okay, they'll get it.

932
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: I would love for them to flip one of those

933
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: picks for a left guard. Don't have that left guard's

934
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: name in front of me, but what I'm looking for

935
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: is a Robert Quinn situation. I'm looking for an NFL

936
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: team that has an aging, solid starting left guard that

937
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: isn't very good, that's probably and he's in the last

938
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: year of his deal, and said team is hoping that

939
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: a year from now they can pick Bryce Young or c. J. Stroud,

940
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: and so a veteran guard on the last year of

941
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: his deal means nothing to them. Here have a fifth

942
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: round pick. I'm gonna flip that for my starting left

943
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: guard because I do love having that many picks, because

944
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: now you're giving yourself a reasonable chance to find a

945
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: future starter on day three because you get five six

946
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: swings at it. I think they have six picks on

947
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: day three. And again, y'all we mentioned this on Tuesday.

948
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: The NFL used this as a much larger talent pool

949
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: than usual. Yeah, I'd like to use five of those picks,

950
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: and I would like to flip one of them to

951
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: a tanking team for their left guard. I just had

952
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: to go look at who are the tanking teams and

953
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: is there a player that fits that bill. I'm looking

954
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: for the Robert Quinn of left guards. That's the tough

955
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: thing about this situation is I think that's a wonderful

956
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: idea it's hard to know thirty two rosters, and in addition,

957
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: who on those rosters has an expiring contract that the

958
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: team would rather not pay. It's a very tedious thing

959
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: to go look up. So Bobby Belt, if you're listening,

960
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: you enjoy tedious work. He'll be listening. He'll be walking

961
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: around later tonight and he'll text you about that. Sure.

962
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: I kind of there's a kind of a few spots.

963
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: I was just looking at my board to kind of

964
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: get an idea of your question. Kicker butter well, well, kicker, kicker,

965
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: that'd be fine. I was thinking of Chris Paul, who

966
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: was the Atulsa, who was a tackle that would could

967
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 1: play guard. I was thinking of Zach tom from Wake

968
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: fours to places tackle that people or to me, places

969
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: guard that people projecting as a center. I was seeing

970
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: about ferguson the tight end from Wisconsin as a possibility

971
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: of a guy. Teryl Bernard is another guy. We were

972
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: talking about linebackers from Baylor, and I was, you know,

973
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: it's funny there's there's these undersized linebackers, but man, this

974
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: guy has got something to his game. Because you know,

975
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: you talk about coverage, it's it's it's more like I say,

976
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: these guys, these guys are really good athletes, but a

977
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: little bit undersize it's more than just drop and play

978
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: the hook. And you know, this guy, Bernard has got

979
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: the ability to kind of just to run with guys,

980
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: to take guys. He blitzes. I mean, he carries routes,

981
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: He makes tackles in space. I mean I always saw

982
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: there was a couple of times and I was watching

983
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: the Texas Iowa state games where he got tied up

984
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, But most of his game is like

985
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: on the move. So I kind of feel like though

986
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: with all those with the fourth round picks, the fifth

987
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: round picks, those are the kinds of names that I'm

988
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: looking at right now for guys that maybe like that.

989
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: You know, you might have a little bit like say,

990
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: Bernard played at Baylor and he is only six one

991
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: and he is only two hundred and twenty four pounds,

992
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: But it might be somebody that dan Quinn wants to

993
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: bring in here because of the burst, the range and

994
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: all those kinds of things. So do you you just

995
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: want to do you want to use all those picks?

996
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they're gonna try. I'm gonna try

997
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: because what's gonna happen. And I think Jeff's right. I

998
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: think Jeff's right. I was talking well, I talked to

999
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and I brought it up last night with Jeff

1000
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: and Dane and I chase on at in Jacksonville, our

1001
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: former first round target. You can go get him if

1002
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: you want, if you're interested in going to get how

1003
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: you know, I know we all make a sharp pay face,

1004
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: We get all squashed up, you know, all that because

1005
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: we don't want the player. But would you take one

1006
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: of those picks, if you know, because Jacksonville's listening, you

1007
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: know they're listening. I don't think they're gonna hold you

1008
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: up on any but if you're if you really thought

1009
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: that enough of a guy, you know, would you say, well,

1010
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: dan Quinn can do something with him. You know? I

1011
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: know Jeff was. He didn't have a name for a

1012
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: guard and I really don't either right now. But I

1013
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: have a feeling though there's somebody out there the pro

1014
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: personnel department's looking at. It's a second or third year guy,

1015
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: and a team's got a little bit of a surplus,

1016
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: and they would take one of those fifth round picks

1017
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: and move on from that. My thought is A Dan

1018
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: wasn't here when they scouted Chason. Yeah, and B I

1019
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: could find that out because I know enough people in Atlanta. Yeah,

1020
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: they could tell me what they thought about him, and

1021
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: if they thought that he was not a very good player,

1022
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: then that would probably eliminate Dan from one. I just

1023
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: we catch a lot of grief about Calevan Chason, and

1024
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: the thing I always go back to is I don't

1025
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: think anybody really loved him that much. Again, it was

1026
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: just like, this is what they need and this is

1027
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: what they're going to do because there's only so many

1028
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: guys in a draft class that God saved you from

1029
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: potentially drafting. They really did. Yeah, I think for most people,

1030
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: well I don't I can't speak for NFL teams, but

1031
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people, you saw Calevon

1032
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: Chason and you were like, Okay, a toolsy pass rushing prospect, Yeah,

1033
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: which is like all right, second round grade. Yeah, and

1034
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: then ceedee lamb firm first round grade. So it was

1035
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: just it's a whole different conversation if CD is there

1036
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: or not to what are we to chase Chase on Diggs.

1037
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a possibility we kept hearing diggs

1038
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: name two and the end up getting Diggs at sixteen.

1039
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: Said I love the I love the draft because if

1040
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: you remember, in that pre draft process, when Diggs's name

1041
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: started to come up, it was like, not at seventeen, No,

1042
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: not at seventeen, anybody anything but that second round? Fine,

1043
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: but not in the front. And now when you only

1044
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: have like six guys that you're like, hey, it's seventeen,

1045
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: I'll take one of them, sure, right, what if they're

1046
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: all gone by eight? I do so when I when

1047
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: I proposed this idea to myself, I didn't propose it

1048
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: to Yeah. When I when I thought up this idea,

1049
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: I just I went back. I was looking at the

1050
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: fifth round, and you can you can find guys like

1051
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right. You can absolutely find Wyatt

1052
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: Teller was a fifth round pick. Sure, Dre Greenlaw, who's

1053
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: a very useful player for the forty nine ers, was

1054
00:53:55,560 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. Tyler Conklin, the Vikings tight end um,

1055
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: and on and on and on. But you want to

1056
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: know what I really noticed is guess guess who reliably

1057
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: makes the Pro Bowl from the fifth round. It's it's

1058
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: not that it ain't that deep kickers and punters when

1059
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: they like when though, if a guy's good enough to

1060
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: get drafted there, Michael Dixon was a fifth round pick.

1061
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: Matt Gay, the pro bowler for the Rams. MS fifth

1062
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: round pick, How do you care? What was that game experience?

1063
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: The ram can't connect from fifty yards Tampa? It was like, yeah,

1064
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: he was short on a forty seven yard or still

1065
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl. And then Evan McPherson, who

1066
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: was money for the Bengals all through the playoffs and

1067
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: really the season fifth round pick. I don't care what

1068
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: you tell me. And yeah, like if you can trade

1069
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: that for a guard, that would be great. Just use

1070
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: one of those picks on a kicker, please think very well?

1071
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: Could this is where you know, this is where bones

1072
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: fossil is going to come in because I know when

1073
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: I worked here back in the day, we had a

1074
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: getting Steve Hoffman never I never evaluated a kicker in

1075
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: the six years I worked in scouting here because Hoffman

1076
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: would go down to home depot and he'd work, he'd

1077
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: get ten guys to go to Texas Stadium and then

1078
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: he'd find an All Pro out of that group somehow,

1079
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: some way. But yeah, this is up the bones and

1080
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: those guys I mean I think that you know that

1081
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: there's some danger drafting these kickers, though there really is.

1082
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying about Pro Bowls and stuff

1083
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: like that, but but think about the ones that have

1084
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: been picked in the second, in the third rounds of

1085
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: well busts. You know. Don't do that, Yeah, don't do that.

1086
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: If somebody comes into the war room on Friday and

1087
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: says we should draft a kicker, you say, you're lucky.

1088
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't fire you here on the spot, Get out,

1089
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: go away. But starting outside of the top, like after

1090
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: about pick one thirty, I'm listening. Yeah, you're gonna be

1091
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: listening for the punter after about pick seventy, that's right.

1092
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I would have been. It doesn't make

1093
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: sense for the Cowboys anymore, but good for them. Go

1094
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: get punk God from San Diego State. Well that's people

1095
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: are going to look at him as a happened. That's

1096
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: why they should. It's like all of a sudden, you're like, okay,

1097
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: like short nickel corner or punter that punts at eighty

1098
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: yards every time, you know, that's that's kind of where

1099
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: that's where that's gonna be. That's the discussion. You know,

1100
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: I hear you. It's just again, it doesn't it's I

1101
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: mean anger was that guy too? Like I don't have

1102
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: any worries about that from the Cowboys. But your kicker?

1103
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: You need a kicker this team plays. This team plays

1104
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: too many close games not to have a kicker. I agree. Uh,

1105
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: what else we got? Okay, I can go back to this.

1106
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: Where are you going? What are you thinking about? I'm

1107
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: thinking about Uh? And now now that we covered that,

1108
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: let's go back to the boring first round because I

1109
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: did want to ask you, I hate the first round.

1110
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: What would your dream scenario of choices be? And you

1111
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: don't have to tell me one specific player, but like,

1112
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: just give me like the scattershot group of guys that

1113
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: you would like to have that choice between, or do

1114
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: you not want a choice? I am a big fan

1115
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: of not having a choice. I love to have the

1116
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: draft do it for me where it's just like the

1117
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: suspense out of it, where it's like, oh, look, everybody

1118
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: I wanted except one is gone, because then you can't

1119
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: screw up. And I love not screwing up more than

1120
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: I like being right. Like, let's eliminate all risk here

1121
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: and what happens is my top five receivers are gone,

1122
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: the edge guys are gone, and what is remaining is

1123
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: one of linder Bomb, Kenyon Green and Zion Johnson. And

1124
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: I'll just pick the one that made it, because then

1125
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: you don't have to wonder did we pick the wrong guy?

1126
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: Like Zion Johnson and Kenyon Green? To me, Spider Man

1127
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: mean gift thingy, whether it's like which one would you

1128
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: rather have? I'm gonna say Johnson. But am I all

1129
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: that confident in that? No? But am I super confident

1130
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: if you told me, all right, linder Bomb's gone, Kenyan

1131
00:57:53,880 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: Green is gone? Do you feel great about taking Zion Johnson? Hell? Yeah,

1132
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: so you're If I got a guy that's like braided

1133
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: right with him, it's like, oh god, okay, all right,

1134
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: let's not pick the wrong one. It's a line all

1135
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: the way for you, though, unless something well like I

1136
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: would throw in a name that we talked about earlier

1137
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: that I don't think they'll talk about. Nakobe Deane at

1138
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: twenty four would be a great pick. He'd be a

1139
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: great pick. I think that dude is a baller. You

1140
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: can take all your five foot eleven and why didn't

1141
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: he test? You can take all of it? You can

1142
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: ball it up, you can throw it in a trash can.

1143
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: And the one that's right over there, Nakobe Dean is

1144
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: a baller. But I don't think the Cowboys care because

1145
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: I think they feel like they're okay at linebacker. The

1146
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: positional value is not great, and so they're not gonna

1147
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: worry about it. Get Derek Stingley to twenty four talk

1148
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: about that. You get him there, that can change something.

1149
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: I wrote these down. I wrote down this is so

1150
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: funny and in no particular order. I'd like a choice.

1151
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: If you give me a choice of a wide receiver,

1152
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: an edge, a center, or a cornerback. I don't want

1153
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: that choice. Grew up choice. No, that's what I want. No,

1154
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: you don't, Yes, I do. You're screwed up. You're gonna

1155
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: pick the wrong guy. Oh you're not. You're not. If

1156
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: the if you just take the however your stack is,

1157
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: you take the best one. You stack them. You stack

1158
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: that receiver, you stack that edge, you stack that center,

1159
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: and they stack the corner and I'm with you. I

1160
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: don't think. But we said this before, we said they're

1161
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: not going to take that linebacker. But they've surprised us

1162
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: before in a draft. But I would I and I

1163
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: just kind of kept that linebacker just below that line

1164
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: because that would be my hope. But if you gave

1165
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: me any in any order you want to have. Now,

1166
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: the guards, I don't know, because I just think I

1167
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: know they're going to take a guard. I just hope

1168
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: whatever guard they take is the right one, because I

1169
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: have questions. I have questions about Green, I have questions

1170
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: about Johnson, I have questions about Ingram, I have questions

1171
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: about all these guys. That's what I think. That's what

1172
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: makes me nervous. And I feel better about the wide receiver,

1173
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: the edge, the center, and the cornerbacks and the linebackers

1174
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: than I do the guards. I am completely unsold that

1175
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: unless it's unless it's made Tyler Linderbaum, I'm completely unsold

1176
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: that a guard would be the best player available to

1177
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: you at twenty four. I'm I refuse to believe. Oh,

1178
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: I think at least the way I see them, I

1179
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: think the odds are it will be the best player.

1180
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: You think for me, even I think it's odds across

1181
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: the boards play even again, like throw Dean in there,

1182
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: even if the Cowboys don't like him, throw Dean could

1183
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: throw that off? What about bomb could throw that off.

1184
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: You think Green and Johnson are definitively better than at

1185
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: least a couple of those receivers. I have Green and

1186
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: Johnson similar to the top seven wide receivers. Okay, So

1187
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: I I just I like, just like some people, I'm

1188
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: over here with Brian, I just no, No, I mean,

1189
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm watch them together. You're gonna show me where these

1190
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: guys aren't good. I didn't say they weren't say I

1191
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: would take either guard over Chris Olave like, that's my

1192
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: hot take of draft season. That is a hot take.

1193
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: I just like I said, I just I hope that

1194
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: everybody's right, because I feel like I'm wrong right now.

1195
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: This this feels very much Joey Bosa to me. Right now.

1196
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: That worked out really well for No, That's what I'm saying.

1197
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's always one or two guys that

1198
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: just don't have a really good handle on blow up

1199
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: everything and go get Cavon Thibodeaux in the top ten.

1200
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: Because we've now entered a world where I think the

1201
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: majority of people are liking Trayvon Walker more than Cavon Tibodau.

1202
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: I watched him both play. You're all insane. I think

1203
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: every one of you is insane. I think Cavon Thibodeau

1204
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: his tape destroys Trayvon Walker's tape with with no disrespect

1205
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: intended toward Trayvon Walker or anybody who loves you. Disrespect

1206
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: them all you want. He's going in the top five.

1207
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: They gonna be fine. I think we're I think we're

1208
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: into that echo chamber part of draft season where people

1209
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: tested so well one of them takes one of them,

1210
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: disrespects offensive tackles every time it's a pass for one

1211
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: of them. Doesn't. Cavon Thibodeau's a stud. He's not lying.

1212
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: Bring me Thibodeau. We'll work on that. We'll see. We'll see. Yeah,

1213
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: we'll see just how far you've already got him in

1214
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: my down to eight to ten. Bring him further quick

1215
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: programming note it will be April the next time we

1216
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: talked to y'all. If you stuck with us for this long,

1217
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: I would like you to know, for these final few

1218
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: weeks we're gonna bring back tell me more. We'll try

1219
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: to get into the real weeds on the you know,

1220
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: we like, there's only so much we can say about

1221
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: the top one hundred and twenty picks. We're gonna try to.

1222
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: We'll find y'all some diamonds in the rough here over

1223
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: the last few weeks. We'll be back next week. I

1224
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: think Kyle will be back. If he hasn't just up

1225
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: and moved on, us might to quit for Jeff and Brian.

1226
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm Dave. You know, thanks for listening to the Draft Show.

1227
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Speaker 1: We'll see you all next time. This has been a

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