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Speaker 1: But I did the right thing, gave him the bag
Speaker 1: to my teammate, even though it didn't. My wife filled
Speaker 1: that out. She likes me in tight stuff. My wife
Speaker 1: in tight stuff. Well, as we closed out yesterday's show,
Speaker 1: I made the comment that maybe by one thirty on
Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon, we would know who would be starting at
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. I also say maybe we
Speaker 1: would know who would be president. I think I agreed
Speaker 1: with you on both of those things, and I had
Speaker 1: a feeling it might be the quarterback, but were You're
Speaker 1: not going to know at least until tomorrow, and maybe
Speaker 1: not till maybe not until day, until Sunday afternoon. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe Hey, And as far as the presidency is concerned,
Speaker 1: I just heard the purge horn outside, so I'm a
Speaker 1: little nervous about what the heck is going on. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll leave back to other talk shows, okay, and So
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Cowboy quarterback quandary. Or is it
Speaker 1: a quandary or is it a quagmire that they are
Speaker 1: in at quarterback? Well, it's a it's a decision they
Speaker 1: have to make. And as I said, just taped something
Speaker 1: in the ever changing world of the Dallas Cowboys. Now
Speaker 1: they've got to decide. As Mike McCarthy said today, between
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush and Garrett Gilbert as their starting quarterbacks, it
Speaker 1: sounds like that they're gonna go with the guys that
Speaker 1: have been in the league longer, but not necessarily have
Speaker 1: the most snaps of experience in the NFL. And I
Speaker 1: did myself, you guys a little research here, all right,
Speaker 1: and uh and you've mentioned what the guys have done
Speaker 1: passing the ball, how many games they've regular season? So
Speaker 1: regular season. Cooper Rush, who the Cowboys signed last week,
Speaker 1: cleared COVID protocol uh and then was eligible to practice
Speaker 1: for the first time today. He'd been with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: for three years twenty seventeen, eighteen nineteen, and went through
Speaker 1: the virtual workout or if you call him workouts, the
Speaker 1: virtual meetings uh. And he was released after the Cowboys
Speaker 1: signed Andy Dalton. So the first week in May, he
Speaker 1: was released. The Giants ended up picking him up. But
Speaker 1: in three years with the Cowboys, Rush played appeared in
Speaker 1: five games, but only through three passes completed one. But
Speaker 1: I figured out he had twenty six snaps in all
Speaker 1: his appearances, which means ever since he was basically mop
Speaker 1: up duty at the end of the games. And then
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna give me a I thought
Speaker 1: you're gonna give me a passer rating on that. Now, No, no, no, not,
Speaker 1: we stopped short of that. Uh. And then on Garrett Gilbert,
Speaker 1: you know he's he spent. He's played six games in
Speaker 1: the NFL, five with Cleveland, uh and uh. He had
Speaker 1: a game appearance with Carolina. With Carolina he completed two
Speaker 1: three passes for forty yards in thirteen snaps, and then
Speaker 1: with Cleveland he ended up with eight more snaps. So
Speaker 1: his NFL career is twenty one snaps total, while Denucci
Speaker 1: in a game and a quarter in a little bit more,
Speaker 1: ended up with ninety one snaps and completed twenty one
Speaker 1: to forty four one eighty. So, but Mike said he
Speaker 1: was going to go with the guys that had the
Speaker 1: majority of the experience in the NFL, and he was
Speaker 1: including time spent in preseason games. Uh, those guys have
Speaker 1: been you know, since they've been in the league several years.
Speaker 1: They were able to play in preseason games. So he said,
Speaker 1: both of them are smart, and he would decide who
Speaker 1: looked like they could manage the game the best. Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush just got here. But he has familiarity with Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: been around him Bill and actually you know, and even
Speaker 1: in their last year and even with this new coaching staff,
Speaker 1: at least through the virtual offseason, they would have been
Speaker 1: about a month's time that he would have been taken
Speaker 1: part in that. Yeah, And they basically kept it a
Speaker 1: secret today because when the quarterbacks came in from what
Speaker 1: they call quarterback school, they warm up on their own
Speaker 1: away from the team. They had practice indoors today. I
Speaker 1: guess Mike wanted to make sure that he kept it
Speaker 1: a secret as long as possible. When the quarterback showed
Speaker 1: up to join the team, that's when the media was released.
Speaker 1: So expect that the rest of the week there if
Speaker 1: you would also expect that tomorrow because that's the padded
Speaker 1: practice and I think between today and the practice tomorrow
Speaker 1: will determine who's the starter because they don't practice on Friday.
Speaker 1: They do on Saturday, and I would imagine you want
Speaker 1: your starting quarterback to work Saturday when there's no access
Speaker 1: to the practice, by the way, and I will add
Speaker 1: that to me, go ahead, go ahead. Ever since I
Speaker 1: was gonna say Bill, thank you to me, this sounds like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It sounds like McCarthy may have deferred
Speaker 1: to Kellen Moore in this situation heavily, because when you
Speaker 1: look at you know, of course, what Denuci did in
Speaker 1: the game, it was fairly good. I mean, considering the
Speaker 1: especially the play calls. He was up against the offensive
Speaker 1: line decimated with injuries his first start, I have to
Speaker 1: say that they I thought, except for those in the
Speaker 1: rounds and untimely play calls, I thought we did a
Speaker 1: good job as far as Denut was concerned. I think
Speaker 1: Keller Moore feels more comfortable with Cooper Rush and Gary
Speaker 1: Gilbert because he's had more time. He alone has had
Speaker 1: more time with him. He feels comfortable with Cooper. Cooper's
Speaker 1: been there since seventeen. Even though he was cut, he
Speaker 1: still has a better relationship with Kellen Moore than de
Speaker 1: Nucci does. And I guess Gary Gilbert has some type
Speaker 1: of relationship as well. I'm kind of surprised at this move. Guys,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I get it you want
Speaker 1: to go with guys who are may be old or
Speaker 1: have more experience, but what kind of experience preseason experience.
Speaker 1: You know, you got one guy with one one completion,
Speaker 1: nothing with two. Denucci has twenty one. Like I said, decent,
Speaker 1: decent performance. I think this is all Kellen Moore and
Speaker 1: his comfort zone more than it is McCarthy's. I think
Speaker 1: that that McCarthy is not out on Ben de Nucci.
Speaker 1: I think that McCarthy just believes Denucci isn't ready for
Speaker 1: it yet and and so I think that's why he
Speaker 1: wants to go with someone who's at least been in
Speaker 1: the league longer, even if they haven't had more snaps
Speaker 1: technically than Denucci. And I think one of the things
Speaker 1: that McCarthy is very concerned about his ball security, as
Speaker 1: he should be, and when Denucci cops it up a
Speaker 1: couple of times, when he says, it's one thing taking
Speaker 1: a sack when you're not expecting, it's another thing coughing
Speaker 1: the football up, and that has been I mean, I
Speaker 1: think I get the feeling McCarthy's at a breaking point
Speaker 1: on that as far as he's never been around a
Speaker 1: team that has not held on to the football like
Speaker 1: like this one has. And so I think he saw
Speaker 1: enough of Denucci from that standpoint. Just if he's going
Speaker 1: to get sacked against a team, and you know he
Speaker 1: is against a team like Pittsburgh, I just he just
Speaker 1: doesn't have confidence that'll be able to hold on to
Speaker 1: the football. I think that factor in. Let's see, there
Speaker 1: was two fumbles this pass game, and then when he
Speaker 1: came in for that quetry and a half, there was
Speaker 1: a was it two more yep or at least one
Speaker 1: three sacks and may have lost the ball on a
Speaker 1: couple of my camera so I think. And then the
Speaker 1: other thing McCarthy pointed out that his concern was was
Speaker 1: basically managing the cadence on the line of scrimmage, and
Speaker 1: they had a couple uh off off scheduled snaps. I
Speaker 1: think there was one that everybody moved except Beardish and
Speaker 1: it sounded like he was putting that on the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So they had a couple uh snap management problems that
Speaker 1: he kind of put on the quarterback. I think, so,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, We'll see how it works out. But all
Speaker 1: I know is my man Dunuch got ninety one snaps
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and that's more than these
Speaker 1: two guys combined in games that actually counted souvenir preseason games.
Speaker 1: Probably didn't get that many in preseason either, right, unless
Speaker 1: unless they got ahold. You remember Cooper Rush though in
Speaker 1: a preseason Yeah, and in fact, and I don't have
Speaker 1: his preseason stats at handy, but it was it his
Speaker 1: second year in the preseason. He really showed some promise
Speaker 1: in preseason games, and you know, it was kind of
Speaker 1: how he won the job. Yeah, he was competing with
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. Yeah, for a backup quarterback position. And in fact,
Speaker 1: I looked up I memory didn't serve me, right, although
Speaker 1: I broadcast these games, I was the only one page
Speaker 1: attention because I was broadcasting you, um, let's say, against
Speaker 1: the Raiders in the preseason. At one point he was
Speaker 1: twelve out a thirteen four, one hundred and fifteen yards
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns in a comeback win over the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Had a total of thirty eight completions in fifty one
Speaker 1: attempts for three hundred ninety eight yards and six touchdowns
Speaker 1: with no interceptions in the preseason that year. So I
Speaker 1: mean that's yeah, that was that was a tough Raider.
Speaker 1: That was a tough Raiders second half team in the preseason. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You compare those guys to this the Steelers. Traine of
Speaker 1: Hell coming in here from the Pittsburgh Steelers, and we'll
Speaker 1: compare and see how that goes. Yeah, but even from
Speaker 1: a physical maturity standpoint, you know, you can just look
Speaker 1: could have been to Nucci and see he's a twenty
Speaker 1: three year old rookie who hasn't filled out really, you know,
Speaker 1: he as compared to a twenty six or twenty seven
Speaker 1: year old like Rush would be, or Garrett Gilbert's in
Speaker 1: his late twenties. Now, shoot he's he may be thirty
Speaker 1: years old now and so and just the fact you're
Speaker 1: being around the league and being in quarterback rooms for
Speaker 1: a little while, I think gives him a little bit
Speaker 1: of an advantage. As I said after last week's see,
Speaker 1: I thought I agree with you, Everson. I actually thought
Speaker 1: Denucci played great considering the fact that he had he
Speaker 1: was a seventh round draft pick out of James Madison
Speaker 1: who had no practices in the off season. On the field,
Speaker 1: and he had virtually no practices himself during training camp
Speaker 1: because they were trying to get the first team ready.
Speaker 1: They were worried about the third team and no preseason games.
Speaker 1: And he literally had three practices last week with the
Speaker 1: first team. And so considering all that I thought he did,
Speaker 1: he had a tremendous job in the game. But now,
Speaker 1: and see to me, if you start going back to
Speaker 1: you know, Garrett Gilbert, like you say, it's almost thirty
Speaker 1: years old. He's had two completions Cooper, you know, twenty six,
Speaker 1: twenty seven, one completion. Yes, you're playing behind Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: And and I think maybe Romo. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: he was there with Romo, but I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to go with a guy that's already been there.
Speaker 1: You know, he's already dipped his toe in the water.
Speaker 1: As Bill Passels always said, he always dipped it. He's
Speaker 1: already dipped his toe in the water. I say, the
Speaker 1: momentum that he built, you know, even though made some mistakes,
Speaker 1: we lost the game, I get it, but the momentum
Speaker 1: from a personal level that he had attained, I thought
Speaker 1: we could build on that. I kind of think, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say we're taking a step back,
Speaker 1: but it's definitely at best a lateral step when we're
Speaker 1: talking about going forward. In regards to the quarterback, and
Speaker 1: having said what I just said about Denuccia, I thought
Speaker 1: he played great considering the fact he only had three
Speaker 1: NFL practices under his belt, I would myself, I would
Speaker 1: go with either Cooper Rush or Garrett Gilbert this week
Speaker 1: because I think he might get killed this week. Well
Speaker 1: let's just lets you don't want the young man to
Speaker 1: get hurt. Yeah, that's right. Let's just fill that out there.
Speaker 1: Because Pittsburgh comes in as the fifth ranked offense and
Speaker 1: I mean defense, excuse me, and they've got a front
Speaker 1: of t J. Watt, Stephan to It and Bud Dupree.
Speaker 1: Those three guys have eighteen and a half sacks among them,
Speaker 1: And just put that in perspective with the Cowboys as
Speaker 1: a team, the Cowboys have seventeen. Those three guys got
Speaker 1: eighteen and a half sacks. So yeah, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: coming after and I believe they're ranked first in sacks
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is they got thirty? I think yeah, so, and
Speaker 1: that's not even including a guy like Cameron Hayward, who's
Speaker 1: a three time Pro bowler on their defensive line too,
Speaker 1: doesn't have that many sacks. But I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: a veteran. Did he get hurt? Did he get hurt
Speaker 1: last week? We get hurt last Hayward? He played seventy
Speaker 1: five snaps last week. I haven't heard seeing their injury
Speaker 1: reporter or anything. I thought I saw him laid out.
Speaker 1: I thought I saw him laid out in the game.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, all right, So it's a tall assignment.
Speaker 1: No matter who is playing quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: this week is true. So here's so here here may
Speaker 1: be the bottom line on all this um In Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy or Mike McCarthy Mike Tomlin's conference call, I think
Speaker 1: someone asked him something to the effect, so, when you
Speaker 1: don't know who's going to be the starting quarterback for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, how how well can you prepare? And Tomlin said,
Speaker 1: I'm preparing to stop Ezekiel Elliot. So I think I
Speaker 1: think that tells you where his priority is and maybe
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys priority needs to be. I think he
Speaker 1: and let's face it, Kellen Moore through he went deep
Speaker 1: into that playbook against Philadelphia last week with the and
Speaker 1: a lot of that going deep in the playbook was
Speaker 1: wildcat stuff with Zeke running the football. But I also
Speaker 1: think that Tomlin probably looks at that third quarter drive
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys had seven carries for forty two yards
Speaker 1: with Zeke and Tony Pollard running behind Zack Martin, and
Speaker 1: he thinks that they're gonna see a lot of that
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Yes they will. And the other thing. The
Speaker 1: other thing I want to point out though, on Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: All right, Mickey, why was Cooper Rush cut because they
Speaker 1: signed Andy Dalton? That's right now, But if Cooper already drafted,
Speaker 1: they figured he was the young guy that they were
Speaker 1: going to groom and if they were going to have
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback, and they spent the money on Dalton,
Speaker 1: that Rushed going into what this would have been his
Speaker 1: fourth restricted free agent money. He was over two million
Speaker 1: dollars salary, And so that was Had Cooper Rush been
Speaker 1: a first year, first or second year guy and they
Speaker 1: had him into New Cheat, they would have kept both
Speaker 1: of them here. But it was because Rush is contract.
Speaker 1: He was he was due to make two point two
Speaker 1: million or whatever it was. And so once they signed.
Speaker 1: It was a wash basically, and then he got the
Speaker 1: experience of Dalton coming in at three million dollars base
Speaker 1: and you're you're just you cut Cooper Rush. Obviously, he
Speaker 1: got picked up immediately by the Giants, and he was
Speaker 1: picked up on waivers and uh. And the other thing
Speaker 1: I think that's interesting on Cooper Rush is that he
Speaker 1: was let go by the Giants. Okay, he went through
Speaker 1: training camp, was signed to the Giants practice squad when
Speaker 1: they set the roster, and then he was let go
Speaker 1: on September twenty nine. So he was out there on
Speaker 1: the street at the time that Dak got injured. And
Speaker 1: so I'm surprised that the Cowboys didn't just sign him
Speaker 1: off the street then to their practice squad, you know,
Speaker 1: when Dak got hurt. And in fact, they could have
Speaker 1: signed him and Garrett Gilbert if they wanted to well,
Speaker 1: and they had um oh, I'm gonna blank out Clayton.
Speaker 1: They ended up keeping him as right the fourth guy
Speaker 1: right in the off season. But I'm saying, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: once Dad got hurt in early October, why don't you
Speaker 1: sign Cooper Rush at that point? Because he had been
Speaker 1: he was he was not even on the Giants practice
Speaker 1: squad at that point. So anyway, and he would have
Speaker 1: been here at least a week earlier. Uh So there
Speaker 1: we are at The difference is not the difference. The
Speaker 1: difference is not between what they are physically in regards
Speaker 1: to to why they kept them, or even experience or ability.
Speaker 1: It was all about the set the salary cap. Correct,
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying as far as letting him
Speaker 1: go in in early May. Yeah, as far as as
Speaker 1: far as as far as making a decision between Denucci
Speaker 1: and Cooper Rush, I'm talking about signing, I'm talking about drafting,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about even what involved as the season went on,
Speaker 1: because physically, there's not much of a difference between them, right,
Speaker 1: Because so the decision that they were making when they
Speaker 1: let Cooper Rush go was not comparing him with Ben Denucci,
Speaker 1: because Denucci was a developmental guy. Rush is already in
Speaker 1: going into his fourth year in the league, and so
Speaker 1: he is in a different salary scale, and so they
Speaker 1: were comparing Andy Dalton to Cooper Rush and so for
Speaker 1: basically two to three million dollars as a backup to
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Well, heck, yeah, we're gonna take Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: and his experience over Cooper Rush, who hadn't done anything
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers three twenty five on Sunday afternoon. And one
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to point out before we moved totally
Speaker 1: on from the game the other day. Although Mickey, you
Speaker 1: got something else you want to spot out about Rush,
Speaker 1: just give you an idea. Everson his rookie year with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in twenty seventeen. In preseason games, okay, Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush preseason games, he appeared in four games. The the
Speaker 1: Houston game got canceled. Was that the cane right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So they actually played Arizona the start in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game. So in the first game he was
Speaker 1: nine of eighteen one hundred and eighty two yards, a touchdown,
Speaker 1: and an interception. The next game nine of eleven for
Speaker 1: one hundred and four yards and a touchdown, the next
Speaker 1: game eight of nine ninety two yards, two touchdown, and
Speaker 1: then the final game in preseason he was twelve or thirteen,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns and one hundred and fifteen yards. So that's
Speaker 1: what made the impression on Jason Garrett at that time.
Speaker 1: He was awfully, awfully accurate and made the impression on
Speaker 1: us guys too. Watching the preseason, it's like, oh boy,
Speaker 1: this guy's this guy's not all that bad, and so
Speaker 1: they decided that, you know, he would he would be
Speaker 1: on the team that year. I'll continue to look at
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, but he's got that much
Speaker 1: experience in preseason games that Denucci doesn't. Now do you
Speaker 1: know why? And once again, I'm with you on that,
Speaker 1: and and I'm not trying to start any type of
Speaker 1: back and forth here, but but the obvious is, you know,
Speaker 1: you're looking at preseason games where he played the entire game. Obviously,
Speaker 1: those games are usually gonna be either in the second
Speaker 1: half of a game, or you know, if you're playing
Speaker 1: the entire games and it's going to be one of
Speaker 1: the last preseason games where you've got a lot of
Speaker 1: guys on the field who are not starters. Pretty much
Speaker 1: looking at guys just on his level at that time.
Speaker 1: So as you go forward, we're looking at what we're
Speaker 1: facing here. I'm wondering if Cooper rush first NFL start,
Speaker 1: would that be any difference from de Nucci's first NFL
Speaker 1: start last week? First of all, you gotta I think
Speaker 1: a stronger opponent defensively, and so that's something that you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to get accustomed to. Not only the fact
Speaker 1: that not just that, but the fact that it's his
Speaker 1: first game ever as a starter. That gives me great pause.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's going to be an
Speaker 1: improvement on what we've already seen from de Nucci in
Speaker 1: last week's game. That's my only thing, and I agree
Speaker 1: on thing, agree with you on that, but remember who
Speaker 1: he had on his side of the ball too at
Speaker 1: that time with the game true, but yeah, that's trying
Speaker 1: to make the team as well. I guess, okay. And
Speaker 1: one other note on Cooper Rush. Do you know who? Okay?
Speaker 1: I said that he was with the Giants on their
Speaker 1: practice squad until September twenty ninth. Do you know who
Speaker 1: the Giants signed as their practice squad quarterback on September
Speaker 1: thirty over Cooper Rush. I do not. Clayton Thorson. No,
Speaker 1: they did not, so Jason Garrett. Of course, Clayton Thorson
Speaker 1: was here. So Jason Garrett, after having Cooper Rush on
Speaker 1: this practice squad for a month, he opted to go
Speaker 1: with Thorson. Now we don't know for sure, you know,
Speaker 1: he could be also, it could have been and he's trolling.
Speaker 1: He's trolling out roster. That's what he's doing. You know what.
Speaker 1: The other thing, Cooper Rush might have had some deal
Speaker 1: with the giants that said, hey, yeah, i'll sign you
Speaker 1: with you with you on your practice squad for a month,
Speaker 1: but then if I'm if I'm not making any progress
Speaker 1: a month into this, will you release me? And they
Speaker 1: may have just released him for that reason. He was
Speaker 1: banking on himself that he could catch on someplace and
Speaker 1: not get lost on somebody's practice squad where teams don't
Speaker 1: realize that he's even uh, you know what he's doing,
Speaker 1: or he could go work work out for teams or whatever.
Speaker 1: Here all right, now, let's move on to Garrett Gilbert. Here,
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert for those who are not familiar with him,
Speaker 1: and there's a connection that Mike McCarthy with Garrett Gilbert. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you know where Garrett Gilbert went to high school? Everson,
Speaker 1: It had to be in Texas, at Texas Lake Travis
Speaker 1: High School. In fact, Garrett Gilbert, I mean his high
Speaker 1: school career at Lake Travis. It was. You can put
Speaker 1: that up against virtually anybody this side of Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: and he's right up there as far as being the
Speaker 1: Gatorade National Player, every five star quarterback. And don't forget
Speaker 1: his freshman year at Texas, Everson. Don't forget his freshman
Speaker 1: year at the University of Texas. He played in the
Speaker 1: national championship game against Alabama as Colpe McCoy got hurt
Speaker 1: in that game. And it was Garrett Gilbert, of freshman
Speaker 1: out of Lake Travis who came into that game against Alabama.
Speaker 1: So that was two thousand and nine and Alabama one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of long horns out there that will
Speaker 1: tell you, mister Walls, there's a lot of long horns
Speaker 1: that will tell you that if Colpe McCoy hadn't got
Speaker 1: hurt in that game, it would have been a different story.
Speaker 1: But instead it was Greg mceloy and Alabama that won
Speaker 1: over Garrett Gilbert and Texas in that game. But the
Speaker 1: point being, Gilbert was a five star guy coming out
Speaker 1: of Lake Travis. And here's the point as it relates
Speaker 1: today to the Cowboys. Mike McCarthy's daughter graduated from Lake
Speaker 1: Travis High School. I believe she was a year We're
Speaker 1: gonna win, so there. That's it. We're gonna win. That
Speaker 1: means we're gonna win. There's Yeah. It's funny because when
Speaker 1: I asked, we taped the McCarthy Show last night, and
Speaker 1: so I s asked, him, Uh, you know, he told
Speaker 1: me that we were gonna go with the Gilbert and
Speaker 1: Rush during practice this week, and so I say, okay,
Speaker 1: well tell me about both of them. And he talked
Speaker 1: about Gilbert first. Okay, so there you go. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: a tip off. I don't think it is. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was because I I worded it that way. Tell me
Speaker 1: about Garrett Gilbert and Cooper Rush. And the first thing
Speaker 1: he said was, well, he went to Lake Travis High School.
Speaker 1: So there you go, little insider information. Yeah, So any
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if they go with
Speaker 1: Gilbert over Rush. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be so pc
Speaker 1: if I go there, I wouldn't. Yeah, And he's been
Speaker 1: here longer, been here, you know how many weeks? He
Speaker 1: probably has been here in three weeks at October. I
Speaker 1: can tell I might even have it right here. Um
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I can't. I can't wait till. I
Speaker 1: can't wait till next week when you bring up another
Speaker 1: underachieving Texas high school quarterback that made it in the NFL,
Speaker 1: that would you like about Gilbert. Gilbert was on the
Speaker 1: practice squad with the Rams in twenty fourteen. Then he
Speaker 1: moved on to the Patriots practice squad in fourteen and fifteen.
Speaker 1: He was on the Lions practice squad in fifteen. He
Speaker 1: was on the Raiders practice squad in fifteen and sixteen,
Speaker 1: and then he was on the regular roster with the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers in seventeen and eighteen. He was with the
Speaker 1: Orlando Apollos in twenty nineteen, and then this year he
Speaker 1: was back and forth between the regular roster and the
Speaker 1: practice squad with the Browns before the Cowboys signed him
Speaker 1: off their practice watch. He's got a lot of practice
Speaker 1: in order to make his debut. He was signed October
Speaker 1: sounds like the new offensive coordinator in the making, that
Speaker 1: ave coordinator in the making. October thirteenth. He's been here
Speaker 1: three October thirteenth, three weeks so, and one of those
Speaker 1: weeks he had to go through COVID, so he did
Speaker 1: October nineteenth. So October nineteenth probably he finally got on
Speaker 1: the practice field. Yeah, all right, it's the top of
Speaker 1: the hour. I could definitely see him. I could definitely
Speaker 1: see him as an offensive coordinator in the future. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're saying that, I might as well have just read
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore's resume to you, is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1: That's right? All right? Just go prop yourself up behind
Speaker 1: the great starting quarterback and hold you hold the paper
Speaker 1: for the rest of your career. We know where you
Speaker 1: headed straight up to the oct And I doubt McCarthy
Speaker 1: actually ever watched Garrett Gilbert play a high school football
Speaker 1: game live and in person because he was coaching the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, unless it was maybe on a bye
Speaker 1: week or something for the Packers. But he might know
Speaker 1: his dad, Gail Gilbert, who of course played in the NFL.
Speaker 1: When he made his trips down to Lake Travis, probably
Speaker 1: played golf with g Because I knew I was going
Speaker 1: to make that mistake, I had to make a reference
Speaker 1: to him on one of the things we were taping,
Speaker 1: and I did say, Gail Gilbert and okay, here's another
Speaker 1: thing as we go to break that may will this
Speaker 1: sell you ever soon? On Garrett Gilbert. He came to
Speaker 1: this is on his Wikipedia page. He came to prominence
Speaker 1: as the starting quarterback of the Orlando Apollos of the
Speaker 1: Alliance of American Football last year, where he led the
Speaker 1: league in yards and passer raiding and helped his team
Speaker 1: obtain a league best seven and one record and a
Speaker 1: playoff berth. And then the league was league suspended operations.
Speaker 1: I didn't have the numbers, but I did point that
Speaker 1: out on Monday. All right, okay, we could in you
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Speaker 1: There you go. That's exactly right, all right. M the
Speaker 1: Cowboys Eagles game, the the fumble return for a touchdown
Speaker 1: that basically clinched the game for the Eagles. Yes, all right,
Speaker 1: you got a problem with it. I've got a problem,
Speaker 1: and I had a problem at the time, and I
Speaker 1: think everybody had a problem at the time. The head
Speaker 1: coach had a problem with it after he saw it. Boy,
Speaker 1: I'm not at liberty to say exactly what the head
Speaker 1: coach said about it, and so I will not talk
Speaker 1: about what the head coach might want to say about it,
Speaker 1: but I will say what I will say about it.
Speaker 1: And obviously there was the off sides to begin with, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, that would not be reviewable, although maybe it
Speaker 1: should be reviewable, okay, and on a play like that
Speaker 1: and an obvious off sides, But anyway, that's why that
Speaker 1: sky judge is supposed to be over there. That's beside
Speaker 1: the point, all right. As we all saw, there was
Speaker 1: a scrum in the middle of the field, and it
Speaker 1: appeared that Vinny Curry had the football and it got
Speaker 1: ripped out, and it appeared on replay that perhaps he
Speaker 1: had it long enough to be down by contact and
Speaker 1: the Eagles would have taken over at that point because
Speaker 1: it was a fourth down play, right right, Okay, And
Speaker 1: I still remember the play started at the Cowboys twenty
Speaker 1: six maybe something like that. Okay, that's all. That's all
Speaker 1: beside the point, Okay, that's but okay, there's about three
Speaker 1: minutes left in the game, all right. Roddy McLeod picks
Speaker 1: it up goes for a touchdown. We're all thinking and
Speaker 1: the NBC commentators Al Michaels and Chris Collins weren't their
Speaker 1: review and it's and we're and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: we come out of all the as we're watching on television,
Speaker 1: We're come out of all those replays, and they're running
Speaker 1: the two point conversion. And so I'm sitting there going,
Speaker 1: what did they review it or not? Okay? Apparently they
Speaker 1: were all out to lunch on it. They had no
Speaker 1: idea that it was even going okay apparently, I mean
Speaker 1: obviously whether in the booth upstairs. Maybe they don't have
Speaker 1: the all the they don't have all the replays that
Speaker 1: we see at home on TV. Maybe they should. They
Speaker 1: get supplied about five angles supposed to have them anyway, regardless,
Speaker 1: they're supposed to have more than we're Apparently they didn't
Speaker 1: look at it as closely as what the NBC crew did,
Speaker 1: because we got a much better look at it, and
Speaker 1: it took it was going to take longer than what
Speaker 1: they reviewed it for all scoring plays are reviewed, right, Well,
Speaker 1: here's my proposal. I think that you ought to be
Speaker 1: able to challenge all scoring plays because in that situation
Speaker 1: because McCarthy could not challenge the play because it's a
Speaker 1: scoring play, right, Okay, it's penalty, isn't it used to
Speaker 1: be a penalty. It is delay a game penalty, all right.
Speaker 1: So the rule needs to be that you can challenge
Speaker 1: a scoring play because there may be something that your
Speaker 1: people up in the booth, what you see on the
Speaker 1: big screen in the stadium, maybe something that you wanted
Speaker 1: an aspect of the play that you want to challenge,
Speaker 1: especially a more complicated play like that that they may
Speaker 1: not see and may not even be aware of to
Speaker 1: look at. And so that way you can stop it.
Speaker 1: You can challenge it. You run the risk of losing
Speaker 1: the time out and losing whatever, you know, if if
Speaker 1: it's no good you know, if you if you fail
Speaker 1: on the challenge. But at least they take a look
Speaker 1: at it, because that was a game changing play. That
Speaker 1: guy had reservations at PA. That's what it felt for
Speaker 1: a people after the game. I mean even the NBC
Speaker 1: crew after the fact. Oh and runner the two point play,
Speaker 1: they dropped it. There wouldn't even anything talk about it
Speaker 1: after that. And I think I told you guys what
Speaker 1: I did. I remember writing down sack fumble, and then
Speaker 1: I saw the play going down the field. You didn't
Speaker 1: even write down touchdown. I did not. I say that, well,
Speaker 1: this was coming back. He obviously was down. That ball
Speaker 1: was down there on the ground for all that time.
Speaker 1: There's no way he wasn't down by contact. Then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I look up and they're showing the
Speaker 1: replays and it's like, yeah, he's down, So I'm writing, yeah, down,
Speaker 1: you know, next down. And then I look up and
Speaker 1: they're lined up for a two point conversion. Fast. But
Speaker 1: if you allow a team to challenge a either a
Speaker 1: scoring play or a change of possession, which obviously are
Speaker 1: huge plays, they ought to be able to challenge it
Speaker 1: because there could be a certain aspect of the play
Speaker 1: that the officials or the replay booth aren't even aware of. Well,
Speaker 1: you don't even get it. That didn't even delay long
Speaker 1: enough for them to look at it. In New York, right,
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do. Right, everything's reviewed. And I
Speaker 1: think if the if the head referee had got his
Speaker 1: little tablet out there, and even if it's this big,
Speaker 1: he could see what happened that Vinny Curry had the ball.
Speaker 1: He was laying his on it right on his chest,
Speaker 1: and even and even if they decided there wasn't enough
Speaker 1: evidence to overturn it, and fine if that if, but
Speaker 1: at least look at it, and that way, if you
Speaker 1: know that you got a fair shake on it they did,
Speaker 1: at least look at it if you can challenge it.
Speaker 1: So I'm taking that to the competition committee. Uh in
Speaker 1: the offseason, right, I'll go with you, bell like that.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, here's the thing, guys. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: nationwide TV, right, This is not like it's some regional games.
Speaker 1: This is the only game that's when that's but that's
Speaker 1: when the NFL is supposed to show just how competent
Speaker 1: they are. Just like it's prime time for the teams,
Speaker 1: it's also prime time for the NFL itself. So these
Speaker 1: are guys that are paid by the NFL to show
Speaker 1: just how we've got this entire game under wraps. There
Speaker 1: won't be any controversies. This is why we're prime time crew.
Speaker 1: So that prime time crew has to be on point. Hell,
Speaker 1: a host, referee, whoever the guy is on TV, he's
Speaker 1: dressed up in his soup. He's part of the crew,
Speaker 1: and all they ask him, what's going on and he
Speaker 1: as he's explaining it, I think they were lining up
Speaker 1: for the conversion, so it caught. It caught everybody off guard,
Speaker 1: which should not happen if you're on the field reviewed
Speaker 1: the scoring play. No one's in a hurry. Okay, the
Speaker 1: game is still good, so let's just do the right thing.
Speaker 1: I thought, that's the most amazing thing I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: and very frustrating because and I know when on his whiners,
Speaker 1: but this crap only seems to happen to cowboys. Okay,
Speaker 1: it just only seems to happen to the Cowboy players,
Speaker 1: therefore the fans. So that's just another beef we can
Speaker 1: strike up to me, all right, not that not that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will have the need to punt against the
Speaker 1: Steelers on Sunday, but that we haven't going to turn
Speaker 1: the ball over. We're talking optimism here. I'll go ahead
Speaker 1: Bill for MEAs he was being very facetious too. Should
Speaker 1: the putter make his way onto the field on Sunday, Yeah,
Speaker 1: against the Steelers, who might that punter be? Punter will
Speaker 1: be Hunter Niswander Hunter, the punter Hunter Hunter, who, by
Speaker 1: the way I found out, not only can punt, but
Speaker 1: he also can kick off and he can kick field goals.
Speaker 1: Can he hold? Uh? That's what I think was the
Speaker 1: last straw that he had to prove he could do that.
Speaker 1: That's why they worked out indoors today and they kicked
Speaker 1: the media out and had practice indoors. Yeah, they didn't
Speaker 1: want you to see that whether he can hold or not, well,
Speaker 1: he better be able to unless one of these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: is capable. Because Chris Jones is gonna have surgery on
Speaker 1: Thursday to repair a torn core muscle which was bothering
Speaker 1: him last year. And I was told that he he
Speaker 1: just was at meant that he can do this. He
Speaker 1: wanted to punt through it. He didn't want to have surgery,
Speaker 1: and I think he tried to rehab it during the
Speaker 1: whole off season and it flared. It was evident. It
Speaker 1: was I thought, it's been evident all season. Oh yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: he been starting with the Rams game exactly. I thought.
Speaker 1: I was like, it was not you know what, you
Speaker 1: know what I thought. I thought it was some strategy
Speaker 1: that that Fossil had that like, okay, shorts, punch short.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's apparently I haven't followed Fossil. He's got this
Speaker 1: this great reputation as a special teams coach. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I see he punts it real high in the air.
Speaker 1: He goes that way. They don't have return no returns, right,
Speaker 1: so we don't have to cover and make a tackle
Speaker 1: because we didn't get a lot of practice at that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I like Fossil. I love Fossil. I love
Speaker 1: the way he's not throwing in the town. You talk
Speaker 1: about going deep into the playbook, right, he's doing just
Speaker 1: like Cooper Us. He's going deep into it. I love it.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna have surgery on Thursdays, so I would
Speaker 1: have imagine. I mean, that's sort of what Sean Lee
Speaker 1: had and he was out five five weeks at least.
Speaker 1: So who could be the season? Right? I think we're
Speaker 1: probably done. You better. You're gonna hang your hat on, Niswander.
Speaker 1: Is that how you say? Did I say it right?
Speaker 1: I don't have no idea, but we're gonna go with
Speaker 1: for now until we hear differently from Jim Nanson Tony
Speaker 1: Romo on the Game on Sunday Afternoon on CBS, it's
Speaker 1: Hunter Niswander, who was signed to the practice squad in
Speaker 1: October twenty sixth, that he is your new punter for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and maybe the new holder Chris Jones.
Speaker 1: Chris Jones and underrated consistent player on this team. He
Speaker 1: will be miss trust me well. And the pronunciation guy
Speaker 1: doesn't even have his name listed because he wasn't on
Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster to stuff. And how about
Speaker 1: what Chris Jones has done in his career. I mean
Speaker 1: when you consider the fact that he was a college
Speaker 1: free agent in twenty eleven, yeah and so, and he's
Speaker 1: had a really good career year and this this injury
Speaker 1: bothered him last year and you could tell it was
Speaker 1: bothering him this year. And you know, and I was thinking,
Speaker 1: I think I said it yesterday when we were talking
Speaker 1: about it, when they decided to take the safety, I
Speaker 1: was thinking, well, if he punted from five yards deep
Speaker 1: in the end zone, they're going to get the ball
Speaker 1: at the thirty five yard line, So maybe just we
Speaker 1: better off doing this and kick it further and we
Speaker 1: give up too, but we don't give up seven. But
Speaker 1: more importantly, you had an opportunity to kick, yes, And
Speaker 1: I understood that, but that's when first went through my mind.
Speaker 1: It was like, because he's struggling kicking the ball, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know which way the wind was going, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, okay, that makes sense because I didn't
Speaker 1: think LP snapped the ball that poorly. That looked like
Speaker 1: that looked like that hike against the snap against the
Speaker 1: rams that Tony Romo had to run back what thirty
Speaker 1: yards to pick it up? Oh? Wow? Yeah, and now
Speaker 1: and then he ran forty yards back the other way
Speaker 1: to get the first down. Yeah. Oh, one of the
Speaker 1: great moments in Cowboys history. All right, that does it
Speaker 1: for this edition of Mixed Shots. Anyone to have a
Speaker 1: parting shot. We don't know the Cowboys quarterback, and we
Speaker 1: don't know who the new president of the United States is,
Speaker 1: and so maybe by one thirty tomorrow afternoon. All right,
Speaker 1: that does it. Ever since, enjoy your the rest of
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