WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Quarterback Quandary 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.720 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:17.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.800 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:26.479 Dallas Cowboys apt Now here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:32.680 and Nicky Spagnola. Well here it is one thirty on 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:38.640 Wednesday afternoon, and it's time for another edition of Mick Shots. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:43.000 Bill Jones along with Mickey Spagnola inside the SWBC Mortgage 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.360 studios here at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:51.360 And Mickey are all decked out with Cowboy a Cowboys star. Yes, absolutely, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:54.160 all right, get in the swing of things. Here you go. 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.720 And we've got Everson Walls inside his very own s 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:03.360 WBC Mortgage student videos at the Everson Walls estate and 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.200 he's getting all set up there. It appears, and Everson 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:13.560 this morning, and look very much, I'm wearing some of 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:18.640 mixed shot stuff. Baby. Hey, I had something on yesterday. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.440 I had something on yesterday. Spags brought it to me. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.880 I think it was out of his own personal closet 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:29.399 because it was a bit tight. Uh And and yesterday 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.440 it was a bit chilly in here, and you could 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:35.360 kind of see it. So I had to wear something 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.160 bigger because I was being exposed because it was too 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:42.280 cold to name. It was almost see through. That was 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.000 the bag that had your name on it, and you 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.080 must have put large on there. And I said, oh, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.480 this is not gonna fit him. I should just keep it. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.240 But I did the right thing, gave him the bag 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.560 to my teammate, even though it didn't. My wife filled 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.480 that out. She likes me in tight stuff. My wife 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.800 in tight stuff. Well, as we closed out yesterday's show, 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.680 I made the comment that maybe by one thirty on 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.799 Wednesday afternoon, we would know who would be starting at 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.200 quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. I also say maybe we 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.640 would know who would be president. I think I agreed 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.400 with you on both of those things, and I had 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.680 a feeling it might be the quarterback, but were You're 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.519 not going to know at least until tomorrow, and maybe 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:31.440 not till maybe not until day, until Sunday afternoon. Maybe 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:36.920 maybe Hey, And as far as the presidency is concerned, 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.600 I just heard the purge horn outside, so I'm a 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.480 little nervous about what the heck is going on. Well, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.280 we'll leave back to other talk shows, okay, and So 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:52.640 let's talk about the Cowboy quarterback quandary. Or is it 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.679 a quandary or is it a quagmire that they are 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.639 in at quarterback? Well, it's a it's a decision they 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.960 have to make. And as I said, just taped something 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:09.560 in the ever changing world of the Dallas Cowboys. Now 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:14.799 they've got to decide. As Mike McCarthy said today, between 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:19.320 Cooper Rush and Garrett Gilbert as their starting quarterbacks, it 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.800 sounds like that they're gonna go with the guys that 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:27.040 have been in the league longer, but not necessarily have 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.800 the most snaps of experience in the NFL. And I 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.359 did myself, you guys a little research here, all right, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.560 and uh and you've mentioned what the guys have done 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:42.520 passing the ball, how many games they've regular season? So 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.920 regular season. Cooper Rush, who the Cowboys signed last week, 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:51.880 cleared COVID protocol uh and then was eligible to practice 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.760 for the first time today. He'd been with the Cowboys 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.680 for three years twenty seventeen, eighteen nineteen, and went through 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.960 the virtual workout or if you call him workouts, the 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.920 virtual meetings uh. And he was released after the Cowboys 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:09.080 signed Andy Dalton. So the first week in May, he 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.800 was released. The Giants ended up picking him up. But 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:18.760 in three years with the Cowboys, Rush played appeared in 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:24.480 five games, but only through three passes completed one. But 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.840 I figured out he had twenty six snaps in all 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:32.200 his appearances, which means ever since he was basically mop 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.200 up duty at the end of the games. And then 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.480 I thought you were gonna give me a I thought 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.400 you're gonna give me a passer rating on that. Now, No, no, no, not, 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:46.640 we stopped short of that. Uh. And then on Garrett Gilbert, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:51.360 you know he's he spent. He's played six games in 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:55.200 the NFL, five with Cleveland, uh and uh. He had 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:59.880 a game appearance with Carolina. With Carolina he completed two 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:04.760 three passes for forty yards in thirteen snaps, and then 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.640 with Cleveland he ended up with eight more snaps. So 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:13.120 his NFL career is twenty one snaps total, while Denucci 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:17.720 in a game and a quarter in a little bit more, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.360 ended up with ninety one snaps and completed twenty one 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.640 to forty four one eighty. So, but Mike said he 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.480 was going to go with the guys that had the 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.400 majority of the experience in the NFL, and he was 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:35.080 including time spent in preseason games. Uh, those guys have 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.599 been you know, since they've been in the league several years. 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:42.280 They were able to play in preseason games. So he said, 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:46.080 both of them are smart, and he would decide who 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:51.320 looked like they could manage the game the best. Cooper 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.280 Rush just got here. But he has familiarity with Kellen Moore, 0:05:55.800 --> 0:06:00.360 been around him Bill and actually you know, and even 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:04.599 in their last year and even with this new coaching staff, 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:09.560 at least through the virtual offseason, they would have been 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.960 about a month's time that he would have been taken 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:15.560 part in that. Yeah, And they basically kept it a 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.479 secret today because when the quarterbacks came in from what 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.400 they call quarterback school, they warm up on their own 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:27.080 away from the team. They had practice indoors today. I 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.839 guess Mike wanted to make sure that he kept it 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.400 a secret as long as possible. When the quarterback showed 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:37.560 up to join the team, that's when the media was released. 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.120 So expect that the rest of the week there if 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.400 you would also expect that tomorrow because that's the padded 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:49.160 practice and I think between today and the practice tomorrow 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:54.240 will determine who's the starter because they don't practice on Friday. 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.160 They do on Saturday, and I would imagine you want 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.240 your starting quarterback to work Saturday when there's no access 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.880 to the practice, by the way, and I will add 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.640 that to me, go ahead, go ahead. Ever since I 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.760 was gonna say Bill, thank you to me, this sounds like, 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.960 I don't know. It sounds like McCarthy may have deferred 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:20.840 to Kellen Moore in this situation heavily, because when you 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.800 look at you know, of course, what Denuci did in 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.640 the game, it was fairly good. I mean, considering the 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.400 especially the play calls. He was up against the offensive 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:35.400 line decimated with injuries his first start, I have to 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.160 say that they I thought, except for those in the 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.920 rounds and untimely play calls, I thought we did a 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.680 good job as far as Denut was concerned. I think 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.400 Keller Moore feels more comfortable with Cooper Rush and Gary 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.600 Gilbert because he's had more time. He alone has had 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.520 more time with him. He feels comfortable with Cooper. Cooper's 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:00.120 been there since seventeen. Even though he was cut, he 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.560 still has a better relationship with Kellen Moore than de 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.040 Nucci does. And I guess Gary Gilbert has some type 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.520 of relationship as well. I'm kind of surprised at this move. Guys, 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.000 I don't know about you. I get it you want 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.920 to go with guys who are may be old or 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:19.000 have more experience, but what kind of experience preseason experience. 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:23.200 You know, you got one guy with one one completion, 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:27.240 nothing with two. Denucci has twenty one. Like I said, decent, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.319 decent performance. I think this is all Kellen Moore and 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:37.040 his comfort zone more than it is McCarthy's. I think 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:43.040 that that McCarthy is not out on Ben de Nucci. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.000 I think that McCarthy just believes Denucci isn't ready for 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.720 it yet and and so I think that's why he 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.200 wants to go with someone who's at least been in 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.640 the league longer, even if they haven't had more snaps 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.840 technically than Denucci. And I think one of the things 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:03.800 that McCarthy is very concerned about his ball security, as 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.360 he should be, and when Denucci cops it up a 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.400 couple of times, when he says, it's one thing taking 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.360 a sack when you're not expecting, it's another thing coughing 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.240 the football up, and that has been I mean, I 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.760 think I get the feeling McCarthy's at a breaking point 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:22.400 on that as far as he's never been around a 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:26.000 team that has not held on to the football like 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.080 like this one has. And so I think he saw 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:33.480 enough of Denucci from that standpoint. Just if he's going 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.640 to get sacked against a team, and you know he 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.319 is against a team like Pittsburgh, I just he just 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.160 doesn't have confidence that'll be able to hold on to 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.839 the football. I think that factor in. Let's see, there 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.640 was two fumbles this pass game, and then when he 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:48.680 came in for that quetry and a half, there was 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.880 a was it two more yep or at least one 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.880 three sacks and may have lost the ball on a 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.520 couple of my camera so I think. And then the 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:59.200 other thing McCarthy pointed out that his concern was was 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:03.240 basically managing the cadence on the line of scrimmage, and 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:07.280 they had a couple uh off off scheduled snaps. I 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:12.120 think there was one that everybody moved except Beardish and 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.559 it sounded like he was putting that on the quarterback. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.760 So they had a couple uh snap management problems that 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.080 he kind of put on the quarterback. I think, so, 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.160 uh yeah, We'll see how it works out. But all 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.920 I know is my man Dunuch got ninety one snaps 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.400 in the National Football League, and that's more than these 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:37.880 two guys combined in games that actually counted souvenir preseason games. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.760 Probably didn't get that many in preseason either, right, unless 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.719 unless they got ahold. You remember Cooper Rush though in 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.800 a preseason Yeah, and in fact, and I don't have 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.560 his preseason stats at handy, but it was it his 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.560 second year in the preseason. He really showed some promise 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.160 in preseason games, and you know, it was kind of 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.040 how he won the job. Yeah, he was competing with 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:02.720 Kellen Moore. Yeah, for a backup quarterback position. And in fact, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.840 I looked up I memory didn't serve me, right, although 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.240 I broadcast these games, I was the only one page 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:16.680 attention because I was broadcasting you, um, let's say, against 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.960 the Raiders in the preseason. At one point he was 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.280 twelve out a thirteen four, one hundred and fifteen yards 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:26.199 and two touchdowns in a comeback win over the Raiders. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.040 Had a total of thirty eight completions in fifty one 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.760 attempts for three hundred ninety eight yards and six touchdowns 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:37.160 with no interceptions in the preseason that year. So I 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.240 mean that's yeah, that was that was a tough Raider. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:44.000 That was a tough Raiders second half team in the preseason. Yeah. Yeah. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:48.640 You compare those guys to this the Steelers. Traine of 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:52.559 Hell coming in here from the Pittsburgh Steelers, and we'll 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.680 compare and see how that goes. Yeah, but even from 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.960 a physical maturity standpoint, you know, you can just look 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.880 could have been to Nucci and see he's a twenty 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:07.640 three year old rookie who hasn't filled out really, you know, 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.760 he as compared to a twenty six or twenty seven 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.320 year old like Rush would be, or Garrett Gilbert's in 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.320 his late twenties. Now, shoot he's he may be thirty 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.480 years old now and so and just the fact you're 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.480 being around the league and being in quarterback rooms for 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.679 a little while, I think gives him a little bit 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.679 of an advantage. As I said after last week's see, 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.880 I thought I agree with you, Everson. I actually thought 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:36.679 Denucci played great considering the fact that he had he 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.040 was a seventh round draft pick out of James Madison 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:43.120 who had no practices in the off season. On the field, 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:47.280 and he had virtually no practices himself during training camp 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.240 because they were trying to get the first team ready. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.760 They were worried about the third team and no preseason games. 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:57.160 And he literally had three practices last week with the 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.680 first team. And so considering all that I thought he did, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.959 he had a tremendous job in the game. But now, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.520 and see to me, if you start going back to 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.560 you know, Garrett Gilbert, like you say, it's almost thirty 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:16.199 years old. He's had two completions Cooper, you know, twenty six, 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:20.359 twenty seven, one completion. Yes, you're playing behind Dak Prescott. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.880 And and I think maybe Romo. I'm not sure if 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.800 he was there with Romo, but I think, you know, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.360 I wanted to go with a guy that's already been there. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.920 You know, he's already dipped his toe in the water. 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.080 As Bill Passels always said, he always dipped it. He's 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.120 already dipped his toe in the water. I say, the 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:41.120 momentum that he built, you know, even though made some mistakes, 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.079 we lost the game, I get it, but the momentum 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.840 from a personal level that he had attained, I thought 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.920 we could build on that. I kind of think, you know, 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.080 I don't want to say we're taking a step back, 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:56.800 but it's definitely at best a lateral step when we're 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.199 talking about going forward. In regards to the quarterback, and 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.199 having said what I just said about Denuccia, I thought 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.199 he played great considering the fact he only had three 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.560 NFL practices under his belt, I would myself, I would 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.800 go with either Cooper Rush or Garrett Gilbert this week 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.480 because I think he might get killed this week. Well 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.520 let's just lets you don't want the young man to 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.000 get hurt. Yeah, that's right. Let's just fill that out there. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:24.440 Because Pittsburgh comes in as the fifth ranked offense and 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.440 I mean defense, excuse me, and they've got a front 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:34.480 of t J. Watt, Stephan to It and Bud Dupree. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:39.400 Those three guys have eighteen and a half sacks among them, 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.240 And just put that in perspective with the Cowboys as 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.760 a team, the Cowboys have seventeen. Those three guys got 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.320 eighteen and a half sacks. So yeah, they're gonna be 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.960 coming after and I believe they're ranked first in sacks 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.960 Pittsburgh is they got thirty? I think yeah, so, and 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.000 that's not even including a guy like Cameron Hayward, who's 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.800 a three time Pro bowler on their defensive line too, 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.120 doesn't have that many sacks. But I mean it's it's 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.160 a veteran. Did he get hurt? Did he get hurt 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:14.560 last week? We get hurt last Hayward? He played seventy 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:18.080 five snaps last week. I haven't heard seeing their injury 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:19.920 reporter or anything. I thought I saw him laid out. 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.440 I thought I saw him laid out in the game. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:28.600 I could be wrong, all right, So it's a tall assignment. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.680 No matter who is playing quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.280 this week is true. So here's so here here may 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:39.640 be the bottom line on all this um In Mike 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:44.440 McCarthy or Mike McCarthy Mike Tomlin's conference call, I think 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.960 someone asked him something to the effect, so, when you 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.560 don't know who's going to be the starting quarterback for 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.400 the Cowboys, how how well can you prepare? And Tomlin said, 0:15:54.680 --> 0:16:00.440 I'm preparing to stop Ezekiel Elliot. So I think I 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.080 think that tells you where his priority is and maybe 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.240 where the Cowboys priority needs to be. I think he 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:12.000 and let's face it, Kellen Moore through he went deep 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.800 into that playbook against Philadelphia last week with the and 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.040 a lot of that going deep in the playbook was 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.360 wildcat stuff with Zeke running the football. But I also 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.800 think that Tomlin probably looks at that third quarter drive 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.600 when the Cowboys had seven carries for forty two yards 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.640 with Zeke and Tony Pollard running behind Zack Martin, and 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.600 he thinks that they're gonna see a lot of that 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.960 on Sunday. Yes they will. And the other thing. The 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.840 other thing I want to point out though, on Cooper Rush. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:45.359 All right, Mickey, why was Cooper Rush cut because they 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:50.040 signed Andy Dalton? That's right now, But if Cooper already drafted, 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:53.960 they figured he was the young guy that they were 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:55.640 going to groom and if they were going to have 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.800 a backup quarterback, and they spent the money on Dalton, 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.280 that Rushed going into what this would have been his 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:07.000 fourth restricted free agent money. He was over two million 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:11.320 dollars salary, And so that was Had Cooper Rush been 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.239 a first year, first or second year guy and they 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.159 had him into New Cheat, they would have kept both 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.000 of them here. But it was because Rush is contract. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.960 He was he was due to make two point two 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.119 million or whatever it was. And so once they signed. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.239 It was a wash basically, and then he got the 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:30.000 experience of Dalton coming in at three million dollars base 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:34.080 and you're you're just you cut Cooper Rush. Obviously, he 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.879 got picked up immediately by the Giants, and he was 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.640 picked up on waivers and uh. And the other thing 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.760 I think that's interesting on Cooper Rush is that he 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.320 was let go by the Giants. Okay, he went through 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.760 training camp, was signed to the Giants practice squad when 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.840 they set the roster, and then he was let go 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.040 on September twenty nine. So he was out there on 0:17:56.080 --> 0:18:00.520 the street at the time that Dak got injured. And 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.520 so I'm surprised that the Cowboys didn't just sign him 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.239 off the street then to their practice squad, you know, 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.960 when Dak got hurt. And in fact, they could have 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.359 signed him and Garrett Gilbert if they wanted to well, 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:17.160 and they had um oh, I'm gonna blank out Clayton. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.120 They ended up keeping him as right the fourth guy 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.440 right in the off season. But I'm saying, but I'm saying, 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:28.480 once Dad got hurt in early October, why don't you 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.720 sign Cooper Rush at that point? Because he had been 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.240 he was he was not even on the Giants practice 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.480 squad at that point. So anyway, and he would have 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.640 been here at least a week earlier. Uh So there 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.560 we are at The difference is not the difference. The 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:46.920 difference is not between what they are physically in regards 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.879 to to why they kept them, or even experience or ability. 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.000 It was all about the set the salary cap. Correct, 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.879 Is that what you're saying as far as letting him 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.320 go in in early May. Yeah, as far as as 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.960 far as as far as making a decision between Denucci 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:05.200 and Cooper Rush, I'm talking about signing, I'm talking about drafting, 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.160 I'm talking about even what involved as the season went on, 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.960 because physically, there's not much of a difference between them, right, 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.639 Because so the decision that they were making when they 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.359 let Cooper Rush go was not comparing him with Ben Denucci, 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:23.600 because Denucci was a developmental guy. Rush is already in 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.600 going into his fourth year in the league, and so 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.480 he is in a different salary scale, and so they 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:33.159 were comparing Andy Dalton to Cooper Rush and so for 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.919 basically two to three million dollars as a backup to 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.199 Dak Prescott, Well, heck, yeah, we're gonna take Andy Dalton 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.080 and his experience over Cooper Rush, who hadn't done anything 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:45.920 in the lake. All right, So we're just getting started 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.840 on this edition of Mixed Shots. We got much more 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.040 to get to and we come back in just a moment. Hey, 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:56.080 they're Cowboys fans with Type Cleaners at Home pickup and delivery, 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.760 Cleaning your clothes has never been more convenient. 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In preseason games, okay, Cooper 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:35.760 Rush preseason games, he appeared in four games. The the 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:39.800 Houston game got canceled. Was that the cane right? Yeah? 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:43.560 So they actually played Arizona the start in the Hall 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.080 of Fame game. So in the first game he was 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.360 nine of eighteen one hundred and eighty two yards, a touchdown, 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:53.240 and an interception. The next game nine of eleven for 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:56.879 one hundred and four yards and a touchdown, the next 0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:00.199 game eight of nine ninety two yards, two touchdown, and 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.680 then the final game in preseason he was twelve or thirteen, 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.640 two touchdowns and one hundred and fifteen yards. So that's 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:12.439 what made the impression on Jason Garrett at that time. 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:17.040 He was awfully, awfully accurate and made the impression on 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:20.600 us guys too. Watching the preseason, it's like, oh boy, 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.640 this guy's this guy's not all that bad, and so 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.879 they decided that, you know, he would he would be 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.159 on the team that year. I'll continue to look at 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.200 twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, but he's got that much 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:37.159 experience in preseason games that Denucci doesn't. Now do you 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:41.199 know why? And once again, I'm with you on that, 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:44.520 and and I'm not trying to start any type of 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:48.439 back and forth here, but but the obvious is, you know, 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:54.680 you're looking at preseason games where he played the entire game. Obviously, 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.960 those games are usually gonna be either in the second 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.200 half of a game, or you know, if you're playing 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:03.800 the entire games and it's going to be one of 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.720 the last preseason games where you've got a lot of 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:10.840 guys on the field who are not starters. Pretty much 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:15.600 looking at guys just on his level at that time. 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.440 So as you go forward, we're looking at what we're 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:24.399 facing here. I'm wondering if Cooper rush first NFL start, 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:29.240