WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE From 2016 NFL Combine - Day 2 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:09.760 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:14.000 on your war room for insider news and draft analysis 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.599 from deep within the confines at Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rant. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.439 The Dallas Cowboys Select by Rand Joe and now your 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:27.480 hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.280 it's day two from the Indianapolis Combine two thousand and 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:36.320 sixteen from Lucas Oil Stadium. I'm Brian brought us along 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:40.480 with Dame Brugler CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.199 David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com and Dan Turner 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.320 once again joins us on the program. Excited to have everybody. 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.880 Dave you back in the mix. Thanks for letting me back. Brian, No, no, no, 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.760 it's gonna get Wally. No, you no problem at all. Man. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.160 You had to do your job for Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.680 And I encourage everybody as always who go to Dallas 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.000 Cowboys dot Com and get all that content. I know 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.000 Dave has been writing a lot of things, some stories 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.720 about some of the guys we've seen. We're still trying 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:16.080 to meander our way to this field behind us here, Yeah, tomorrow. 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.240 I was thinking, Lineman, we're going today. That just shows 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.200 you old man syndrome right there. I was just conditioned that, Okay, 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.920 they come in, they talk, they go work out, but 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.800 we will have the offensive lineman and the running backs 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:30.920 working out tomorrow. You get the bench brus today did 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.920 get to be something. Yeah, and we'll talk about that 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.760 because I do want to talk about Yeah, I got 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.880 something to say. Yeah, yeah for you okay, and and 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.200 and yeah the kickers, Yeah, that's something that when you 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.520 got Dan Bailey and I know we're a full service 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.480 show here. Wait, but I thought we wanted to investigate 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.000 and education. Yeahs over the kicker kickers, we're just gonna 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:56.080 go on. Don't want to Bailey for the Dallas Cowboys 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.800 is a great kicker. I want to talk, but I 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.000 want I do want to get into something because Dane earlier, 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:04.800 and we'll get into this later, but it's about this 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.040 bench press. And you talk to some scouts. It felt 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.200 like that if you got rid of the bench press, 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.040 that hey, nobody would miss that. So well, we'll have 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.280 some fun with some numbers. I know we've got him 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.000 in front of us. Some guys did lift some guys 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.519 didn't lift. We had some running backs come through today, 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.160 We had some tight ends come through today, but more importantly, 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.919 we had some quarterbacks come through today, with the exception 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.880 of one quarterback. Yeah, he's kind of disappointing. Yeah, pack 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.240 him blew it off. Yeah, Paxton Lynch, my favorite quarterback 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.520 here in the NFL draft who everybody likes to fight 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.600 me on. Just not he didn't decide that he didn't 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.840 want to be part. There's a certain number of guys 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.160 that they do a day. He'll pick back up tomorrow. 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:52.000 Ezekiel Elliott same thing. We would have got him yesterday, 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.079 but then he didn't go until almost the end of 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.840 the day to day he did. And I want to 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.280 I want to talk about uh, you know, first get 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.519 into the quarter backs today and and I just want 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.040 a thought from each one of you. Um, you know 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.600 it's we're not going to see This is just part 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.760 of it, the interview part. I want to I want 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.680 to know your take. Did did some guys handle it well? 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:20.560 Were they agitated? Uh? Did anybody stand out from that group? Again, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.360 we've seen two of the guys and then you know, 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.400 as as far as the first round type guys, you know, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.880 but we saw some other guys, you know, with Dak 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:33.240 Prescott and Hackenburg and guys like that. So did anybody stick? Yeah, 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.520 they did in one big one. What do you mean 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.960 for the Cardel Jones? Oh you're sorry. I'm just gonna 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:44.280 keep pounding only Yeah, with two hundred fifty seven pounds. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.800 I'll take his four pounds because I need it, right guy? 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.160 But yeah, the I was gonna talk about it. You 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.640 just just the thoughts of the quarterbacks that went through today. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.800 And it doesn't have to be about uh, you know 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.280 with with golf, you know, or you know, with what's 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.080 going on there with those first round guys, but just 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.960 talk about what you what you saw today. Well, the 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:10.480 first guy saw was Christian Hackenburg and he was seriously impressive. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.800 Like he was, He's he's the best we've seen so far, 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.640 with the exception of potentially Larry Tunstil yesterday, who I 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.960 thought stole the show. But the first thing which you 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:23.039 notice about Hackenburg is just that he looks like Tony Romo. 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.200 He sounds like Tony Romo and even as exactly the 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.960 same mannerisms as Tony Romo, and it's just it's just 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.279 one of those strange things sort of that. It would 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.360 almost be quite an easy transition really for Cowboys fans 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.960 especially to go from someone like Romo to someone like Hackenburg, 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.040 because they speak in the same way, they seem to 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.960 have the same attitude. It's almost like even that little 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:48.400 smirk which which Tony Romo gives when he talks Hackenburg. Yeah, 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.960 that would be nice. Well, that's and we'll get into that. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.919 We'll get in that day stuff. Yeah. I actually I 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.000 just wrote a big, big expose on the quarterbacks that 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.680 talked today. I encourage you to read it. Dallas Cowboys 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.840 do Um. I thought the two all right, I mean 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.680 I really wanted Lynch to talk because that's the trio 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.599 of first round guys. But but the two the two 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.080 first round dudes that did talk, Wins and Goff. I 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.080 thought it was fascinating that. I thought they both did 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.160 really well, and I thought they did it in different 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:21.360 ways like Winz and we saw Wins at the Senior Bowls, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:25.600 so he kind of knew what to um. He's very 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.719 robotics maybe not the right word, but he's just he 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.200 knows how to do this already, like he's polished. He 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.120 knows how to give the answer. One thing that I 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.480 always notice is anytime he was asked for something specific, 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.680 he found a way to generalize it. Uh. Somebody asked 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.000 him about working with the Cowboys coaching staff and he 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.839 was like, yeah, I enjoy working with the Cowboys coaching staff, 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.880 but I also talked to the Jaguars and these guys 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.440 and these guys are you know, and he just knows 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.280 he knows how to play that game exactly. Uh. And 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.560 then John Maschodot, the Dallas Want of News, I thought, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.480 made a great observation that he reminded him a lot 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.679 of Jason Garrett. I could. I can see it completely 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.800 and it's not just the hair. Um. Then you have 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.760 Jared Goff who and this this sounds like a lazy 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.760 comparison because they both went to cow But he reminded 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.359 me of Aaron Rodgers, Like he was very cool and 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.880 laid back, and he was a little cocky when when 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.000 people were asking him about his fumble problem, he was like, 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:19.680 well how many did I have this year for? Okay, 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.520 well maybe you should shut up. I mean that's basically 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.320 what he said. And I just, you know, cocky, but 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.960 not I mean justifiably, I would say, I don't think 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.320 he said anything that he couldn't back up, you know, 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:30.960 he kind of he said he thought the stuff about 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.400 his small hands was stupid, um nine inches exactly. And 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.719 you know, Aaron Rodgers, he's arguably the best quarterback in 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.040 the NFL, but he's not afraid of saying something cocky 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.560 or controversial or speaking his mind. Uh. And so I 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.440 thought that that's what that reminded me a lot of. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.240 So you got both of these guys. I thought they 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.800 did excellent in their interviews, but they handled it in 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.680 very different ways. Dane Burglar and I think the whole 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.080 hand sized thing is interesting because listen, hand size matters. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.239 I mean, we can say, oh, you know, just watch 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.680 the tape and that's all. You know, hand size doesn't 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.800 matter when you talk about a team like Cleveland possibly 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.080 looking at you at a number two pick. So how 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.920 much you know, wait, will the Browns put in nine 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.240 in chants which you know we said it yesterday, the 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.640 threshold for quarterbacks nine an eighth, nine and a quarter 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.840 that's you know, kind of where you want, you know, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.840 the bare bones what you want. If you're below that, 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.160 then you're in trouble. And you just look at past examples, 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.280 you know, guys like Ryan Tannehill he was at nine. 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:34.760 Kaepernick was nine, an eighth, and so can Goff you know, 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.280 look past the or you know, can he prove to 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.040 these guys that hand size is not going to be 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.080 a factor for him and will he be you know, 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.840 still be potentially the top quarterback for the Browns. The 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.520 top quarterback on your board last year was Teddy Bridgewater 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.160 if I'm correct, two years ago, right, two years ago? Right, Okay, 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.280 Teddy Bridgewater Jamis last year, Jameis Slash Okay, I'm sorry. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.920 Both had some hand size. Okay two years ago though, 0:07:55.920 --> 0:08:00.000 But now we see Teddy Bridgewater play double gloves. Yeah, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.440 and so you know that was some of the stuff 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.880 that we heard from Britain out any shot that we see, 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.800 you know, even the Super Bowl winning quarterback this year 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.920 playing with a glove on, you know. I mean Bridgewater 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:13.760 did that in college too, so he was used to it. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.120 You know, That's that's what he was accustomed to. Um. 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:20.240 I don't think we're gonna see that with with Goff. Um. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.840 But it's it's just, you know, we talk about puzzle pieces. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.560 It's just another puzzle piece, uh, you know, in order 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.120 to figure out who this guy is going to be 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.240 at the next level, is not going to make or 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.840 break him as a player, but it's just another puzzle 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.440 piece that we have to kind of figure out how 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.120 it fits and what kind of factor it's going to 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:39.880 have moving forward. Cocky or irritated today, I don't. I didn't. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.520 And it was a little contentious there when we were 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.480 talking about the fumbles in the hand side. Oh he 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.560 went after that reporter, Yeah, and Jeff Kavanaugh from the 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:52.600 Draft show kind of defense, Yeah, that the guy didn't 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.080 have the answer, and Kavanaugh screams out he had four 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.559 fumbles this year. And the guy, you know, and and 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.240 and you could see Golf kind of gave Jeff like 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.440 a thanks, look, you know, kind of like a yeah, 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.120 you're with me. I don't think that it ever really 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.160 got really testy. And and here's my approof is the 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:12.600 same guy that asked about the fumbles that originally irritated 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.240 him came back and said, well, you're one in eleven 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.200 year where you had all these fumbles as a freshman 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.400 or whatever. You know, how did that help research grow 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.280 from that? Right or whatever? He said? And Goff went right, 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.280 and he was like, absolutely, this is why da da 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.480 da da da da da. And you know, he never 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.400 really seemed overly flustered by anything that happened there. And 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.200 I mean, I just think it was his demeanor the 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.120 whole you know, he was he was just calm and 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.880 kind of nonchalant the whole way through. It wasn't like 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.400 he got up or down over the course of it. Yeah, 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.280 I don't. I don't actually mind a quarter about being 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.560 a bit cooky, and I think i'd argue that you 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:48.240 want it, yeah, exactually they need to be sure. I mean, 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.719 there was a bit of a difference. So Knakook came 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:54.840 on I think just before um just before golf, and 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.319 he had a similar sort of cockiness, but it was 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:58.640 it was in a different way. It was almost in 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.880 an arrogant sort of boy, as if he was trying 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.760 to build himself up all the time, whereas Jared Goffe 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.400 it was almost as though he was just trying to explain. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.240 He would basically take take different points and just put 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.120 them down one by one. He wasn't and he'd he'd 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.120 give people proof as well. So like with the fumballs, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.080 he would say, well, how many fumballs did I have 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.000 in the last year? So I thought he had a 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.559 really good press conference to day, and he's the sort 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.600 of guy who you don't you don't drop him at 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.800 all because of the day. A quarterback there and press 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.320 me was Dak Prescott, And yeah, I think that's what 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.760 you expected. And you know I've said this before and 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.480 I'll say it again. If the Cowboys don't go quarterback 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.880 at four, I think Dak Prescott it makes a lot 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.440 of sense in the third or the fourth round for 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.720 this team. He mentioned he met with Cowboys last night 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:49.679 informally with coach Wilson, and so you know, I think 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.480 it could be a fit. I think with his best 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:55.080 attributes are his poise, his leadership, the way he carries himself. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.840 That leadership, I think that's something that will really appeal 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.880 to this team. Is he ready for NFL snaps right 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.559 now as a starter, No, But I think he's a 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:07.080 guy you can bring in for good value. You have 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.440 to love his resume in the sec um A tremendous 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.560 production and not only production but development. I think you 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.800 know said this before, but he was a thrower in 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.440 twenty fourteen as a passer fifteen, I think there's a 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.600 big difference in two thousand fourteens when we heard all 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.079 the Heisman talk. Twenty fifteen was a much better year 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.000 for him, at least on film and from an evaluation standpoint. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.920 So I think Dak Prescott, we're going to see him 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.959 as possibly linked to the Cowboys. But it makes a 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.560 lot of sense. How about his throwing motion though, Yeah, 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.240 and then a little bit and you said a passer 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.679 or thrower, but there's some things that you see in 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.559 his throwing motion that a little bit over the top, 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.439 you know that type of Yeah, it's a little bit 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.440 of radic at times. Mechanics start a little bit like 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.760 Cam Newton's if you look at this mechanical Yeah, like 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.720 without ritty, he isn't he isn't two drem fifty pounds. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.360 So if he can't just scend in the pocket, I 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:03.120 mean nice, Yeah, he's not small like Cam Newton can 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:04.520 just deflect guys off and he said he can just 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.960 stand back there, whereas Dak Prescott he has to step 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.120 up in the pocket more very mobile. Ye, yes, yeah, yeah, 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.640 but I'm yeah, he still has some learning to do. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.920 But to me, if he can make the same improvement 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.160 from last year to the NFL that he made from 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.880 two thousand and fourteen to two thousand and fifteen, there 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.880 might actually be something there, and obviously the development on 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.440 his own just makes me intrigued. I felt like, listening 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:30.199 to the quarterbacks that spoke today, I felt like that 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.959 he was the most ready, you know, every everybody. It 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.760 seemed like that the other guys came in thinking, Okay, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.440 I'm in for a fight. It's it's almost like watching 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.920 we're in this we're in this election season, and these 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.160 candidates stand up there and they and they seemed like 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.800 people are poking holes in him and they're trying to 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.000 deflect things and pass this off. But I felt like, 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.200 though that that Prescott seemed very comfortable with who he 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.679 was and not having to deflect as much. I would argue, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.360 and I don't think any prospect or maybe in their 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.640 heart of hearts they're not can admit this. But nobody 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.400 thinks Dak Prescott is a first round pick. The rest 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.760 of these guys, you can find somebody who will argue 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.960 that they will be even Hackenburger Cook, you know they're 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.720 getting You're talking about them potentially being a first round pick. 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.040 I don't think anybody thinks that's the case with Dak, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.840 so I think the pressure on him and the types 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.280 of questions he was getting were probably a lot less uh, 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:26.160 you know, high profile less scrutiny. Yeah. Uh, what was 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.200 interesting for me with him and Dane alluded to the 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.000 fact that he talked to Wade Wilson last night. What 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.760 did he say that Wade Wilson said that was and 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.320 like my ear, your ears perked out, he said, back up, 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.080 he said, they want you know, they want a quarterback. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:44.760 They need a quarterback in this offseason cycle. Uh, he said. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.040 They talked about the picks they have, like this is 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.400 the range where we're thinking that we could sure, you know, 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.040 fourth rounds and you would come in and be come 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.360 in and be behind Tony Romo. And like, none of 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.240 that is brown Gray, I said that backward. None of 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.280 that is groundbreaking, right information, But it's still very interesting 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.400 when you hear somebody talking about a Cowboys official admitting 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.600 these things and talking about they'll probably say the similar 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.079 thing to other quarterbacks that they meet with and so, 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.679 but yeah, it is interesting. I think the best thing 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.680 you can say about Dak is what Dan Mullen, his 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.160 head coach a Mississippi stay said about him. He called 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.560 him the best player he's ever coached. This is the 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.360 same Dan Mullin that coached him TV Sam Dan Mullin 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.800 that coached Alex Smith at Utah has coached a lot 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.200 of very good players, but he singled out Dak is 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.320 the most impressive that he's ever had the pleasure of coaching. 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.560 Go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah, Well, I mean Jason Garrett 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.360 loves intangible was in a player as well, and I 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.840 have the feeling because he was an ex quarterback himself. 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:40.400 He's going to get a big say in who the 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.479 quarterback they picked this year is. And in terms of intangibles, 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.000 Dak Prescott is as good as anyone in this class. Normalnessy, 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.040 he's a lead, that's all right kind of guy. Oh yeah, 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.360 let me flip this in on you guys then, And 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.240 I know I can create a little argument here before 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:57.760 we go to break Danny. Sell me on Christian Hackenburg, though, 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.720 sell me on why I should it? Maybe at thirty 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.240 four consider I mean, and I'm going to give you 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.200 an opportunity to rebut they'll look on Dane's face. But 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.120 how about just okay, just a draft, you know, give 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.320 me and I know you'll agree. There's some point you 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.560 were draft. But you make an argument for him if 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.480 you can here in a couple of minutes. I think 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.720 he has the best armed talent in this entire class. 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.120 I mean in terms of just pure throws. If if 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.640 he just stood there tomorrow we're going to see him 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.520 or the day after tomorrow, he'll be throwing out in 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.040 the field. He'll be the best quarterback there in my opinion, 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:33.880 just in terms of it'd be the best thrower there 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.200 in my opinion. And his flaws are actually quite fixable 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.080 in my opinion. So the um so one of them 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.000 is the offensive line. Obviously he can't have it. He 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:43.920 didn't have anything to do with that. But again it 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:45.840 could be ingrained. So and if it is in grain, 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.480 then this guy's going to bust in the NFL. And 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.880 I accept that. I'll admit if I'm wrong if it does. 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.760 But I mean his his flaws from a technical standpoint 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.960 are he doesn't really align his feet when he throws. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.840 But Jamis Winston had exactly the same thing last year. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.720 By week one in the NFL, Jamison had fixed it. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.600 So this is this is this isn't a fundamental mechanical floor. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.440 This is something which he can fix in his throwing motion. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.280 This is something which I don't think it's I don't 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.400 think there's anything any serious underlying issues here as long 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.280 as he can next thing. Because of this offensive line, 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.720 the rory is that he'll start seeing ghosts in the pocket, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.320 and when quarterbacks start doing that then this then they 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.600 can't play in the NFL. But I'm still willing to 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.560 take a chance in this guy because because to me, 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.080 drafting someone like Christian Hackenburg shows ambition. It shows me. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:32.320 It shows me that the Cowboys want a potential franchise quarterback. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.200 Not obviously someone like Brandon Allen might be a nice pick, 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.320 but his upside is a low quarter is a low 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.840 quarterback one on a team. So where's Christian Hackenburg? He 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:47.160 has upside? Is he your last franchise potential quarterback? Yeah? Okay, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.280 so you're going to fight for him if I if 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.760 you can't have one of the three, then this would 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:53.840 be your your number four guy to go to. In 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.040 all honesty, I might take him over Wentz as well. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.320 I just don't. I just don't trust when Hart tag 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:02.800 that's very that's very Dame Burglar. You you you'll line 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.040 up on the other side and get him. I mean, 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.919 there's there is a point in the draft where you know, 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.720 I'm taking a chance on on Christian Hackenburg. But I'm 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.960 just I'm worried he's damaged goods already. You know, I 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.320 really and you you kind of talked about that, like 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:19.040 you know, that is the possibility. And his tape was 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.119 bad and a lot of a lot of examples, a 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:22.760 lot of games, and a lot of it had to 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.400 do with the offensive line, a lot of it had 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.879 to do with the coaches and the play calling, but 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.840 a lot of it was on him too. I think 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.240 the game just moves at light speed for him, and 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.040 I just haven't seen signs of it's slowing down. And 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.120 so I really worry about how natural the game comes 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.400 to him, and is he damaged goods already? It? Can 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.280 he show improvement? Will he get better when the game's 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.199 only gonna get faster at the next level. But you know, 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.040 he's absolutely right about the arm talent. I mean, he 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:55.520 makes throws that most quarterbacks in this draft, or you know, 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.560 most quarterbacks on this planet are physically unable to make, 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.680 and so I think that is appealing. I just think 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.920 Christian Hackenberg will be drafted higher than I would want 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.879 to take a chance on him. I think once you 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.399 get into the fourth round, outside the top one hundred, 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.239 I would maybe think about taking a chance on him, 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.600 depending on my other options. But I think he's gonna 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.240 be long gone. I think he's even be somewhere in 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.880 the top fifty top sixty picks. Thing is, I think 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:20.960 he has probably a fifty percent chance of busting, and 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.640 so I agree with that, But they're just the fact 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.600 the high percentage for a guy that you want to 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.719 take that high no, but the fact that to me, 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.960 he there's a twenty five thirty percent chance that he 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.000 can be a quality franchise quarterback. I'm taking that chance 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.280 every single time because I want I want a quality 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.560 quarterback on this team. And if he does bust, then 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.480 we draft another one, and then we draft another one. 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.360 And although it may not sound like a good plan, 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.080 but to me, that's that's what I want in this class. 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.120 I don't I don't want to I don't want any 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.120 of these lower level quarterbacks. I don't want to try 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.520 to develop a backup here. And there's something absolutely to 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.080 what you're saying. I mean, I'm along the same lines 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.880 where you keep drafting quarter I draft a quarterback every year. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.880 You know, it's it's a lot. See what you can get. 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.760 You might, you might hit, you might. You're gonna miss 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:04.720 on a bunch, but you only need to hit on one. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.159 So I agree there, I just the value. You know, 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.320 you have to take him. If you're the Cowboys, you'd 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.359 have to take him a thirty four. And to me, 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.680 that's just too rich. I couldn't do it, but hey, 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.119 it could pay off if he if he ends up 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.480 hitting well. Bill O'Brien was asked earlier today about Christian 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.520 Hackenburg and does he have starting ability in the National 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.480