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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we need to start this episode how

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Speaker 1: we started Easter Church Sunday, because it was one of

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Speaker 1: those where the pastor was like, we're always going and

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Speaker 1: going and rushing, and he's like, everyone, just take a

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Speaker 1: nice deep breath. I feel like I need that right now.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's only and it's early in the morning.

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Speaker 2: It's already a lot.

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Speaker 1: I have thrown and footballs, made lunches, so.

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Speaker 2: Don't do way too much in the morning.

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Speaker 3: I would like to say I did have a moment

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Speaker 3: this morning.

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Speaker 2: Up and I got ready.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm kidding your kids are at a different age though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I help dreams to get ready, but

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Speaker 2: like even then she gets herself ready too.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's definitely Jason's like play football. You know,

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Speaker 1: Wine is in belgram mode. So I cannot detach her

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Speaker 1: to save my life. Like she's literally have in the

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Speaker 1: most tragic Academy Award winning Goodbye in the driveway this morning,

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Speaker 1: Mama and like hand out, like never let go Jack,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's really something.

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Speaker 3: Wait, where did she goes? You go to daycare?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: No? Yeah, single mom that gets up every single morning

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Speaker 3: and has to get themselves in a car and get

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Speaker 3: into traffic and do all of that. I thought that

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Speaker 3: this point, how lucky am I to stay home?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Holy Mac.

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Speaker 2: I look back and I'm like, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: I did that. I'm not a morning person like we've

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Speaker 2: talked about, and it's like get up, get ready, get

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Speaker 2: all the kids to school, daycare, and then go into Nashville. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I could never do it again. No, it's terrible.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna We're just realized about myself. Is I'm

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Speaker 1: a psycho when I'm.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to end it there? That's where my

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Speaker 3: sentence ends this morning period.

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Speaker 1: I know when I go to my freak out moment.

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Speaker 1: Today was my freak out, and I know why now

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Speaker 1: I go to my freakout when I am so overwhelmed

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Speaker 1: with a million different things. Normally the way that a

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Speaker 1: dishwasher is loaded.

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Speaker 2: This is not where I thought this was going, is

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Speaker 2: how I know?

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Speaker 3: Please continue?

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Speaker 1: This is actually this was gonna be my wine about it.

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Speaker 1: But it's not just host chat because it kind of

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Speaker 1: explains I can I have another wine about it. But

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Speaker 1: don't worry, there's something there. Do Okay, yes, stay duned,

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Speaker 1: dearest readers. So I was I have a very particular

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Speaker 1: way of how I do the dishwasher. Now I am

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Speaker 1: very I'd rather though, so I don't usually freak out.

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Speaker 1: I rather just the people put them in the dishwasher.

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Speaker 1: It's fine. I will then quietly rearrange because I love

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Speaker 1: to save space in a dishwasher. I loaded, like, that's correct.

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Speaker 1: And so, but what I've realized is, and I've always

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Speaker 1: kind of wondered when this comes, but now I know

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Speaker 1: when it comes is when I'm so overwhelmed, everything just

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Speaker 1: gets and I then I explode. Right So, in the

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Speaker 1: middle of throwing a football this morning with Jase trying

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Speaker 1: to make lunches, making him he's got like this, uh

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Speaker 1: he has to memorize like his street, you know, street address,

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Speaker 1: my phone number all so, and then the spelling tests

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Speaker 1: and we're working all that in the morning, throwing footballs

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Speaker 1: like right his you know, during all that, and then

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Speaker 1: like Granma's like and then I open the dishwasher, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh my gosh, we are soul mate.

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Speaker 1: And so but then it's but then then I can't

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Speaker 1: stop the train of like I see the laundry in

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Speaker 1: like I so when I know there's so many things

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Speaker 1: left undone, and then it feels like it's all left

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Speaker 1: for me to do. Now I know, I have a

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Speaker 1: very you know, helpful partner and all those things, but

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Speaker 1: in those moments, I can't control my explosion, right, and

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Speaker 1: I don't explode at anybody, but well, I mean I

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Speaker 1: but he's like, wow, some of my little little passive

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Speaker 1: little throws there, you know, But I can't stop it.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's I get and then I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: just I can't stop the ball from rolling when I

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Speaker 1: feel so And now mind you, I'm leaving for Kentucky today.

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Speaker 1: I booked a new movie. I have a whole entire

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Speaker 1: script that I do not know. And then I've but

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Speaker 1: wildly at the moment stressed. And there's a lot to

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Speaker 1: so I just I just feel like I just needed

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Speaker 1: to let that out. And now that I've said it,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay. But you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know what you're I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: But are sure you're okay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good. I'll cry about it and probably too. No,

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Speaker 1: but I now know, though, I'm going to have to

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Speaker 1: do some sort of like breathing technique or something when

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Speaker 1: I get like this, because I now know I explode

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Speaker 1: and turned psycho over things that I don't usually become

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Speaker 1: psycho about, but I do it when I'm overwhelmed. So

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Speaker 1: can y'all help me what to do in that moment?

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Speaker 3: I think we do it. I rage cleaner too, so

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Speaker 3: nothing like I mean.

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Speaker 1: I am folding launder, throw on the football. Well, I

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Speaker 1: me to fault this morning.

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Speaker 3: For me, it's always the fork flip in the dishwasher.

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Speaker 3: Why are the tongs down? Why are they doing that?

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Speaker 3: It will never the cleanliness will.

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Speaker 2: Never reach it out. They're down.

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Speaker 3: They put My family loves to put the forks all down.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's cut through the other way. If you put

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Speaker 1: the tongues up, if you put the forks up, so

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Speaker 1: my thing it's like, but I usually lay them on

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Speaker 2: This is definitely not what I stress about.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's for me. I'll just grab control

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Speaker 3: and so that's all it is. It's the fork flipping

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Speaker 3: has nothing to do with the grand scheme of things

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Speaker 2: I will say, a knife up will drive me crazy

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Speaker 2: because I almost kill Yeah, my kids do the dishes,

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Speaker 2: the older ones, they mostly do the dishes, so it's

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Speaker 2: always wrong. So y'all would die. But I'm just like whatever,

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Speaker 2: But like, my house is a disaster.

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Speaker 3: But you're so cold.

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 1: I told you, Remember we talked about this, like I'm fine.

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Speaker 1: Amy's like the mess. You know, remember that the mess

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Speaker 1: will not be there. So I've really embraced it. I

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Speaker 1: know now why when I explain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm overwhelmed about other things, so that's won't

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Speaker 2: be my first. My first will be I'm overwhelmed about

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Speaker 2: the kids of this, this, this, and this, and then

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Speaker 2: I'll come home to the house dirty and then it

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Speaker 2: may throw me over the edge, like I didn't give

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Speaker 2: a crap the you know, the week before that it

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Speaker 2: was a mess. But I will. But I think being overwhelmed,

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Speaker 2: I think that's normal. I get like when you're overwhelmed,

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Speaker 2: like that's when people get Now, we can't control our

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Speaker 2: response to it and how we act, I've been told,

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Speaker 2: but I'm not really good at that either.

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Speaker 1: I think what I might struggle with is when I

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Speaker 1: find a way to say something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just ask.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's so hard for me, you know.

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Speaker 2: But the being it is worse. Yeah, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: it really is. It really is, because you're going to

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm the laundry person at my house. So I will

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Speaker 2: one hundred I mean, Nick will do it if it's there,

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Speaker 2: like I will one hundred percent come back to laundry.

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Speaker 2: But he does the dishes when the kids don't sure

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I will have to have to

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Speaker 3: Well, I think too, in those moments, we're not only

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Speaker 3: know where things are. That's at least my usual frustration.

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Speaker 3: Like even this morning, this is not what I wanted

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Speaker 2: I just think it comes down to expectations too. You know,

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Speaker 1: Is like there was no that'll be for when when

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Speaker 1: just like I just feel like I got I have to.

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Speaker 1: such a good job, truly, I've like one eighty that.

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Speaker 1: But now I know where I still struggle is when

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Speaker 2: Never raft I felt it this aggressive comin looking up

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: I also sometimes just wonder what it's like to be

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Speaker 3: him and the moments.

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Speaker 1: Because he's going so I feel because like he's so good,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, so helpful, so so

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I love you. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Preston called it, he calls it my shell. I go

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Speaker 3: into my shell, he said. I went into my Easter shell,

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Speaker 3: he told me on Easter. But even this morning, like

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Speaker 3: he's you know, he is just so excited to put

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Speaker 3: so he's just thinking about that, you know, and putting

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Speaker 3: I was not the rich kid.

437
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Speaker 1: I never know.

438
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 3: I mean like now looking at my like right, like

439
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 3: we were not we were not I mean renting, I mean,

440
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 3: we were never honestly, like just so many things that

441
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 3: I could say, but I'm trying to like, but if

442
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: you like, I would consider myself to be the rich

443
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 3: kid now. And that's not anything in our orbit here,

444
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, Like we're not like

445
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 3: our house is really beautiful it's the nicest house I've

446
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 3: ever lived in, a nicer than anything I thought i'd

447
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 3: live in. And also we've been there for nine years

448
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 3: and we don't want to leave because our mortgage is

449
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 3: low and we have a two point one interest rate,

450
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 3: you know. So, like, I think it's interesting people's perception

451
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 3: of our lives or that they automatically go to financial piece.

452
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 3: Like I still like, yes, I have money in the bank,

453
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 3: I'm not in the red, and I can I can

454
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 3: understand people would want well, once I got out of

455
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 3: the red, yes, I had some financial piece, but I'm

456
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: never really a piece with that because you just never

457
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 3: know it'especially especially in my line of work. So it's like,

458
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 3: but that's not the first thing that people should like.

459
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 3: I mean, but I guess again, people that are struggling

460
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 3: to buy groceries and all this. I emphasize it because

461
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 3: I get it. I used to steal toilet paper from

462
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 3: my fucking work, you know what I mean, Like I

463
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: understand being in the nave, so but also like, but

464
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 3: also the money free is not exactly but the money

465
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 3: for me is never going to give me peace, right

466
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 3: because I come from the negative, had to quit things,

467
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 3: didn't have the money growing up eight literally just broccoli

468
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 3: for dinner, you know what I mean, re frozen tiketos

469
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: for a year straight. Yeah, So I do think people's

470
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: perception is probably a lot of the Yeah, people just

471
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 3: don't know. Yeah, Like Preston and I both are scarcity

472
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 3: mentality when it comes to that, and I've had to

473
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: like work my butt off to get myself out of

474
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: that feeling. But still even now I'm hustling on the side,

475
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, like I just can't. And he's the same way.

476
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 3: He's a preacher's kid, so he's just assumes.

477
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Speaker 2: They're well, I think you are going to be hustling

478
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: no matter what.

479
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, peace from within is rich in life, yeah,

480
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, for sure, like that is. And I

481
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: like what a glorious feeling to be able to leave

482
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: for my movie and not worry about my husband cheating

483
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: on me or stressing about like I get to actually

484
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: go do my work and not stress about someone cheating

485
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: on me because that's what the stress I always had,

486
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: and like it would happen. It happened on a set,

487
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like when I was somewhere.

488
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Speaker 1: So it's like to be able to like just feel

489
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: peace and like, oh, like I don't have to I

490
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: don't have to stress about that. That's really what I was,

491
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: you know.

492
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: Well, And I think that that shows that in that moment,

493
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: what you were posting about with your piece is what

494
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: your experience is and what has felt you like you

495
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 2: don't have peace. So maybe that person responding that's what

496
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: makes them feel like they don't have peace is because

497
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 2: they don't have enough money in the bank or they

498
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: don't have the house that they want, so they go

499
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: to an assumption, Yeah, that that's what you're talking about,

500
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: Like that has nothing to do with it.

501
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 3: Literally, I think it's about being like a well human

502
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: because I honestly a friend of mine, Melissa, who's worked

503
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 3: her ass often build a business here in Nashville, and

504
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm really proud of her. She owns a salon here

505
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 3: and has grown her business exponentially. And she posted about

506
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 3: this house right and it's stunning she's building and it

507
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 3: is gorgeous, no detail is left, like it is magic.

508
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 3: And she had this moment she sat on her stairs.

509
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: This is a couple weeks ago, and I never scroll, really,

510
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: but I do love Melissa, so it was to me

511
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: divine intervention that I saw it happen, and so she

512
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: does this story. She just sat on her stairs and

513
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: she got really tearful and she was like, I didn't

514
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: have money, we didn't eat, we didn't like you see

515
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 3: the shiny parts of me flying out with Carrie Underwood

516
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: and you see this and you see that. And she

517
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 3: was like, but that's not like I just want to

518
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: tell you to keep going. And it was the most

519
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: heartfelt thing. But I'm not. I'm watching her to be inspired,

520
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: not to be hateful, and I think that is just

521
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: it's a heart posture for a lot of people too.

522
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. That actually brings up something that it did happen

523
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: that I'll whine about if we're done with it. It's

524
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 2: very similar. I actually wasn't going to talk about this,

525
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: but here we go. This is similar. So the other

526
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: day and if y'all saw it, I don't really because Okay,

527
00:24:54,640 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: I posted something and it was insensitive of me. It definitely, Yeah.

528
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 1: I did you delete it?

529
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did.

530
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: It almost texted you and said there's I'm sure you're

531
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: going to get I did.

532
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So here's my thing. It was very new and

533
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: I was, yes, I'm in it. The opposite way of

534
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: what it was meant, but it came across as I

535
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: don't even want to say what I said because at

536
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: this point I'm not happy with what I did. Right, okay,

537
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: but my wine about it is not that I received. Hey,

538
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: this may come across not the right way, maybe you

539
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: should take it down. It came you're an asshole, you're

540
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: a terrible human, you are all the things. And to

541
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: each person that sent that, there was probably five, I

542
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: copied and pasted and I was like, you're right, I'm

543
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 2: so sorry. I deleted it. That was not my intention,

544
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: but I absolutely see where that came across that way.

545
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: But you know the one that was like, you're an asshole?

546
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: And I was like, what makes you better than me? Like,

547
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: what makes you better than me making a mistake that

548
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: I did not? That was not my intention for you

549
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 2: calling me an asshole like I don't understand, like a

550
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: terrible human like and then I coming to your you

551
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: always say gracious assumption, like I understand they don't know me.

552
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: These people do not know me. There wasn't anyone I

553
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: knew that responded to me. Not one person.

554
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: That from thed this. Sorry they didn't respond from you

555
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: responding to them, like, no.

556
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: One that responded to me actually knows me. Right, there

557
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 2: were only people that don't know me, So I get that.

558
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: You know.

559
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: Maybe the people that did see it, there was gracious

560
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: assumption that I didn't mean it in that way, and

561
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: they didn't take it, you know, they didn't take it

562
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: as badly as some of the other people did. Again,

563
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: I welcomed the hey, you need to take this down.

564
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: There was a few people that said that and said,

565
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 2: you're so right. I took it down. Should have never

566
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 2: said that. But the ones that just attacked me back,

567
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're no better than me, you know what

568
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 2: I mean, Like we all make mistakes. I made a

569
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: mistake and I shouldn't have said what I said, but like,

570
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: you're not better than me. And I was just so

571
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: frustrated and so like I was disappointed in myself because

572
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: I truly did not Obviously I wouldn't have posted it

573
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: if I thought that I was being insensitive, I wouldn't

574
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: have I don't know what I was thinking. It was

575
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: a quick whatever, I really and so I don't even

576
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: want to talk about it. I won't even give it

577
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: a whole lot of light because I don't want other

578
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: people attacking me, but like I just really frustrated me

579
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: because I was like, there's no gracious assumption that hey,

580
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: maybe she's not a terrible person. She made a mistake

581
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: and let me just like give her like a little hey,

582
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: maybe you want to take that down.

583
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 3: Well, I also think we are all I actually had this.

584
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: I was dming with a mom last night who listens

585
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: to the podcast podcast, and she was so thankful for

586
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 3: the way that we openly share and all of the

587
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: things that we say on here, and I said, I'm

588
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: really grateful for hearts like yours because we come on

589
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: here and we just you guys, there are times and

590
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean this, like literally, I forget that we're recording

591
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: because we're just like talking like friends, and so there

592
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: is we are just being honest and we're just being people.

593
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: And it's like I think sometimes people just forget like

594
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 3: we're also just moms and humans and lives and.

595
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I own my mistake, like I So.

596
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, I don't like you're getting You're

597
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: going so hard on yourself. So I knew exactly what

598
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: you meant, yeah, when And the truth is is like

599
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: you you don't see from that lens.

600
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: That's my thing. I was like, I didn't even think

601
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 2: about it that way.

602
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: Right, you don't ever you don't look at people going

603
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: that skinny, right, you don't, you don't. It was basically

604
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: I was body shaming, but she like, they're bigger, Like,

605
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: it's not, it's not weight bigger. It was they're just

606
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: like I.

607
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: And and truthfully, basically, I'll just go ahead and say

608
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: it's not whatever. Ramsey's team was playing another team and.

609
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: They an older team. Sometimes they play older, but no,

610
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: they looked.

611
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: A lot older. Yeah, okay, Ramsey is you know, she

612
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: was catching and she just looked really I don't want

613
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: to get attacked again for saying it, but she was

614
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: just really be.

615
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: Size though she's small, but I'm saying she's also short

616
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: or so. But I was watching what I said, I

617
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: was watching Maria's I was watching Maria's team yesterday because

618
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: they were right next to Jason's team, and I said,

619
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: is this an older age group because sometimes they play

620
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: up older age I'm like, these girls look so much bigger.

621
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: And I don't mean yes, wide, I mean taller. But

622
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: I said, so I saw what when I was like,

623
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I know where people are

624
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: going to take it. But I knew what you meant.

625
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: Right, right, right, and so again it was insensitive of me.

626
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: I was not looking at that other child in any

627
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: negative light whatsoever.

628
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: Kat, that's just not your.

629
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: And they coming from that's not we don't for any

630
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: of us, like we don't know, we don't say like

631
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: even Jolie when someonehen she was learning what I was like, No,

632
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: we don't say fat like we was.

633
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: You know, that sweet child was not fat, and I

634
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: didn't call her fat. It's just was my little like

635
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: you looked younger than everybody, you know, and so that

636
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: was kind of just my point because she's like over

637
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: here like this little catcher, you know whatever. Either way,

638
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: it was not right of me, and I shouldn't have

639
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: done it.

640
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: However, when you learn small I have a book that

641
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm reading to Jase right now. Small big, Yeah, that's

642
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: I was thinking height. That is what I'm saying. So like,

643
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: but their people are going to people. People don't pole

644
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: took the wrong assumption. I meant right, And that's where

645
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: people and I'm like, that is that's awesome. You're going

646
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: straight to the negative. So just like what I'm saying,

647
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: people look at it and go straight to the negative.

648
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: It's like that is not now we can totally see understand,

649
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: which is why in this like yeah, take it down

650
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: because it's so fine. Absolutely, but of course why would

651
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: why would you think someone is going to say something

652
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Speaker 1: like that about a kid. It's literally Roman in this

653
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Speaker 1: book small big tall fall, you know what I mean?

654
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Speaker 2: Tall like whatever, like yeah, And that's what made me

655
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Speaker 2: think about it because I wasn't going to talk about

656
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Speaker 2: it because I was just like, you know, I'm not

657
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Speaker 2: proud of it. But that's what made me think about it.

658
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: It's like the but you weren't out of it.

659
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Speaker 1: It's like you didn't look at it and that lens

660
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 1: because you're not looking at a negative lens. And then

661
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Speaker 1: you're saying you're not proud, like oh like that that

662
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Speaker 1: was Ah, you didn't look from a full maybe left,

663
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Speaker 1: I think, but that's not your like.

664
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Speaker 2: Right, I mean I think it's looking at the intention.

665
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: And again there were a few people that responded those

666
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Speaker 2: like Okay, I appreciate it. It was slightly nice, like you

667
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: should take this down, and like one or two people

668
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: were like thank you. No one person was like thank you.

669
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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. But the other ones, you know,

670
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: it was like, you know, to the one that called

671
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Speaker 2: me an asshole, I was like, I you know, did

672
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Speaker 2: the same. Yes, I'll take it down. You're right, I

673
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: take it down. Blah blah blah. I'm like, but I

674
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Speaker 2: do not understand what makes you any better than me?

675
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Speaker 1: Did she respond?

676
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: She goes, I just call it like I see it.

677
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, and that's it.

678
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Speaker 3: But it's wild to me that she she's blocked on

679
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Speaker 3: my phone.

680
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: Well, and then, you know, none of them actually follow me.

681
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Speaker 1: Oh of course not. Well the one that said it's

682
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Speaker 1: on mind too does not.

683
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Speaker 2: Vo I was like, so you just came here looking clearly.

684
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: One person saw it, told other people and they came

685
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: to find it because I'm like, y'all don't even follow me,

686
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: So why are you even again?

687
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: I think it's just so the thing with this is

688
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: we don't do things perfectly right sometimes we and we're not.

689
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: Don't look at this is that my couples therapist said

690
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: this too. Don't look at the person straight as the enemy,

691
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, and don't look at it straight as negative, right,

692
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: So don't have the think that they have ill intention.

693
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: You did not have ill intention. I didn't have ill

694
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: intention with my with my post. Why do don't the

695
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: person that goes to comment, first of all, why but

696
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: also if you want to like, don't go at it

697
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: you're an asshole, don't go at it so negative. Assume

698
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: that someone is coming from a good place and not

699
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: the enemy, and then have a great conversation. You could

700
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: a great conversation. Then you saw, Oh, you're right, that

701
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: looks insensitive. I'm going to take it down. Yeah, but

702
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: doesn't make you a bad person. Yeah, Oh, I actually

703
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Speaker 1: was kind of like, were you okay?

704
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Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean, because again, if I saw something

705
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: like that, I just I cannot imagine doesn't make me

706
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: any better than anyone. But I cannot imagine ever calling

707
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Speaker 2: someone an asshole or a terrible person. Or but if

708
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: I it's like, hey, maybe if I was so worried

709
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: for that person, you know, hey, you might want to

710
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: take this down. Totally understand. I just I can't imagine

711
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: coming that negative of a.

712
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: Place because there's literally a way to say everything.

713
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: You can't tell anyone anything I.

714
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: Mean, or even just in a different way, it can

715
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: still be like assertive and not be horrible.

716
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, like That's what I struggle with.

717
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's literally a way to say everything, And

718
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: even for me spiraling about a dishwasher, there's always a

719
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: way I can say it to my family Totally, I

720
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Speaker 3: could have.

721
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Speaker 1: There's no point of me saying anything that's like at

722
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, like thank you for putting

723
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: the dishes in the dishwasher. If I have a frickin

724
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: issue of why it's not loaded, right, let me just

725
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: change it. But I don't need to be.

726
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: Passive right right right, you know, but like if you

727
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: wanted to, you could say something and everyone would understand, right.

728
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: Like, guys, this actually bothers me. Could we just maybe

729
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: work to try to put the bulls here? Because that

730
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: would really help mommy out easy done? Why? Why?

731
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Speaker 2: Yeah? But also like we're all still learning. Like I

732
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: know we're forty, and I know that sounds stupid, but

733
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: like we're all humans and we're all gonna make mistakes

734
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: and we're all still learning. Like and you know that

735
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: taught me something that day, Yeah, to think past what

736
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm thinking and to look at the bigger picture and

737
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Speaker 2: what other people could perceive this as.

738
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Speaker 1: Like I mean saying we're coming up by my year

739
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: anniversary of doing that same thing, so mean, you know,

740
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Speaker 1: being more mindful what you say because people you know

741
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: you heard, Yeah it's not nice.

742
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: Sure right, even though you don't mean to be that way. Anyways,

743
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: that was a good wine. I'm really proud of you, though,

744
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: oh wow, thanks. I was not my proudest moment. But

745
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: that's okay. But it's also I don't like the shame

746
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: that we carry about it because I do feel like

747
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: it's like we're just being human in oops, you made

748
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 3: a mistake, like you know what I mean. Yeah, also

749
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: like and I'm not but that stuff hurts me, like

750
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Speaker 3: that stuff will throw my whole.

751
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Speaker 2: So normally will And I literally after I got those

752
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: and I responded, I was like, I'm letting this go.

753
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna work. My intention was not bad, like

754
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: if I had a bad intention, and I really felt

755
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Speaker 2: like really really guilty about like, okay, that was not kind,

756
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: you know, but I was like, there was no bad

757
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: intention here. I'm letting this one go, and like no

758
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: one's going to tell me I'm an asshole or a

759
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: bad person because I know I am not.

760
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Speaker 3: With Asagia four walls, what's the truth inside of four walls. Yep.

761
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Hurley debuts her new relationship with Billy Ray Cyrus

762
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Speaker 1: Happy Easter. So apparently they're the newest celebrity couple we

763
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Speaker 1: did not see coming. Hurley fifty nine. Cyrus sixty three

764
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Speaker 1: captioned a joint Instagram photo kissing Hurley during a visit

765
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Speaker 1: to a farm. And I have to tell you when

766
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: this headline was sent to us in our group wind down,

767
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I've always wondered who the people were that

768
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Speaker 1: would zoom in damn on a photo, because there's so

769
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Speaker 1: many times when I'm like, gosh, alan they noticed this,

770
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like a lot of people zoom who zooms

771
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: in a freaking photo? Well, you know what our best

772
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: friend here on the couch, dearest listeners, Kristin Brust, would

773
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Speaker 1: you like to explain yourself? I was like, no way,

774
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: are you the my like someone who zooms in.

775
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: Zoom in on some photos? Really to look if there's

776
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 2: a certain things Easter.

777
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Speaker 1: Eggs, like you know, like Easter eggs, like little like

778
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: you know, clothes yep, Well what did you what did

779
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: you see on the finger? Well?

780
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: I felt like I saw. I feel like I'm pot story.

781
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: I I really want to defend myself here.

782
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: I felt like, oh, I think this was a fair one.

783
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 2: By the way, I feel like her.

784
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: Ring finger looked a little off it did. It looked

785
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: photoshopped a bit, and so I sent back in what

786
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: I thought was the trust.

787
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: Tree zoomed. There's no trust. She zoomed in on the photo.

788
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: I said, zoom in. I think that we have a

789
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: secret engagement. It feels like something she has covered her finger.

790
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: I never mind, I'll just do it for you because

791
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: I hadn't looked at it yet. So that was all Ulah.

792
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean, something's not right.

793
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: With Maybe they're engaged. Breaking news here on wind Out.

794
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: Oh god, Chris Christien sees a messed up photoshop on

795
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: our ring finger.

796
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Speaker 3: I did see it, you guys. I couldn't help but

797
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: see it. What do I think of the relationship. I like,

798
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: I didn't see that one coming. But so cute, so cute,

799
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: you guys. Preston's obsessed with this. He keeps going, you guys,

800
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: and it's very good looking. There's they seem happy, like.

801
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: I think it's funny because we all have been around

802
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: enough celebrities at this point. Everyone on these couches, we've

803
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: been around enough that I don't know that I get

804
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: superstarstruck mins Jresca Simpson, but even stuff. So it's funny

805
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 3: to me when someone like my husband is like Billy Ray,

806
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: can you believe it? Because he's friends with him enough,

807
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: and he's like Elizabeth Hurley like he can't. He goes,

808
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: we are driving around on our buggy last night, sunset

809
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: hunting and he goes, you believe it, baby, just over

810
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 3: that ridge right there. Elizabeth Hurley is probably Billy Rays also,

811
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Speaker 3: And I was like, what is happening in my life?

812
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I think they're cute guys.

813
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: I love when people find love same and I just

814
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: hope they're happy, I know. And it's so cute with

815
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: the Bunny ears and he's.

816
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: Had a rough couple, you know, a rough go the

817
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: last couple.

818
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope that he's same.

819
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: He's good and happy.

820
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: But Francis cause of Death revealed one day after his

821
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: final surprise appearance for Easter thoughts on that it made

822
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Speaker 3: me really sad. I just couldn't believe it kind of

823
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: because he was just there. Yeah, I mean he was,

824
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: which is wild timing, right, I mean.

825
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, weird. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I went back and zoomed in. Did she zoom into

827
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Speaker 1: the tomb just to.

828
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: Get a well check on the guy? Well, I just

829
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: was like, that's crazy that he was able to do

830
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: that like the day before and then literally passed the

831
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Speaker 3: next morning.

832
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was watching. It was so sweet. She's like

833
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: Jolie because I sometimes sometimes have the news on in

834
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: the morning. She's like, oh, the Pope died, and she

835
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: was so sad. I was like, well, honey, he lived

836
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: a really long, beautiful life. He helped a lot of people,

837
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: and it was really sweet. But he said, gosh, I

838
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: saw this on the news and he spoke about this

839
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: about technology, because you know, we've obviously talked about technology

840
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: on the show. How I would like for us to

841
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: look less at screens and look each other in the

842
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: eyes more. I just thought that was so sweet. Sometimes

843
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: something's wrong if we spend more time on our cell

844
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: phones than with people. And this was his prayer about

845
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: technology just three weeks before his passing, and yeah, I

846
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: just he goes, It's true. Technology is the fruit of

847
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: the intelligence God gave us, but we need to use

848
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: it well. It can benefit only a few while excluding others.

849
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: He said, unite to use it to unite, not to divide,

850
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: And that just goes to what we're saying in our

851
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: wine about it, where don't go to divide on social media.

852
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: Come to night Whether and listen. There's obviously people that

853
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: listen to show, listen to this show just to hate

854
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: on us, and why you know, just a if you

855
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: don't like us, don't listen, Yeah, and be try to

856
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: see from a different light. And if not, let's talk

857
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: to us about like you know, like you don't know,

858
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: like when you said, like why why you know.

859
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: Send us a message. If there's something you don't like,

860
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: let's talk about it.

861
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: I mean, let's get a hater online listeners. But I

862
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: also go back to the point though too, it's like,

863
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's gonna gonna love us, and personality types

864
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: just don't mesh sometimes. But you don't need to be rude,

865
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: so you can just hang step away.

866
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: You know, even from saying that I that I megan

867
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: and produce, I'm already already know the messages I'm going

868
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: to get. It's just it's a weird feeling when you yeah,

869
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: it's hard to like we I think we all kind

870
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: of intentionally like walked into this space, like we didn't

871
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: think Cat and I for sure didn't.

872
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: Really walked into this unintentionally.

873
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think we would be doing this as

874
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: long as we have, and it's been so fun. And

875
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: I would say like it, the greatness of it outweighs

876
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 3: tiny little turd buggers that slide into your deals.

877
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: But it does.

878
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: But there are moments like when I would like to

879
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: say that we could all be friends. Yeah, we might

880
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: not understand her that we might, they might not like,

881
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: but we can all just.

882
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 3: You guys, I've got one that hates every single time,

883
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: and I just respond with kindness every single time. And

884
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not going to get to this level. Yeah,

885
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: I just walk. Sometimes there's mostly balk. Okay, well you

886
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 3: have two million high lady. Hi, ladies, get ready for

887
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: a long one. My best friend and I have been

888
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: friends for over twenty years. She decided My best friend

889
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: and I have been friends for over twenty years. She

890
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: decided to divorce her husband after him cheating on her

891
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: multiple times and him just not being a good guy

892
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: or a dad. I was extremely proud of her for

893
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: this and did my best to support her in any

894
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: way I could. She started to date and sleep around,

895
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: which again I supported and told her to just be

896
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 3: careful and be mindful about introducing guys to her kids.

897
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 3: She had texted me the one day saying a guy

898
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: we went to school with, who graduated with my husband

899
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: and who worked with my husband recently slid into her

900
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: DMS and asked her out, and she was really excited.

901
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: When I told my husband, he said, please tell her

902
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: it's not a good idea. He's just using her for

903
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 3: sex and he's abusive. I could tell by the way

904
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: he would talk about other women he's dated. After I

905
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: texted her this, I fell asleep because it was late,

906
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: and when we woke up the next morning, my husband

907
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: had text messages from the guy threatening him, and I

908
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: had a text for my best friend saying that the

909
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: guy said my husband needs to keep his mouth shut

910
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: and a bunch of other business nonsense. I obviously freaked

911
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: out on my best friend because she completely betrayed my

912
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: confidence and screwed my husband over when he was only

913
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: looking out for her. And her response was, I appreciate

914
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: him looking out for me, but he shouldn't say things

915
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: like that about someone unless he has concrete proof. But

916
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: I get your mad, so I'll give you some space.

917
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: We've barely spoken and it's almost six months and we

918
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: never received any type of apology. I'd also like to

919
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: point out during us not talking, I still bought from

920
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 3: her school swund raiser and dropped off a birthday gift

921
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: for her daughter, but she got nothing for my daughter

922
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: for her birthday. My question is, am I the asshole here?

923
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: Asshole just seems to be a friend on show? Am

924
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: I wrong for being pissed off? I want to reach

925
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: out and talk to her, but I'm still extremely hurt

926
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: and pissed off that she not only betrayed me but

927
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: my husband, and I feel like she really owes him

928
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: an apology. It's just that over twenty years of friendship,

929
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: our daughters were best friends, and I feel like I

930
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: don't even know who she is anymore. Ooh, that's a

931
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: tough one. She's not an asshole. I agree, you're not

932
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: an asshole. No, you're really no.

933
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: I mean she was just looking out for her. But

934
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: by the same token, I don't think that the friend

935
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: necessarily betrayed her in a sense that I feel like

936
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: it would be easy for that person in that position

937
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: to go to the guy and be like, hey, like

938
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 2: why are these you know, are they saying stuff about

939
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: you with not an intention for him to go then

940
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: and like threaten them and do all that. You see

941
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, I don't think that the friend's

942
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 2: intention was to necessarily betray her friend either. I think

943
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: she was just trying to get answers probably and trying

944
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 2: to figure out like, if I told you something about

945
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: someone you're dating, you're probably going to go to them

946
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: and be like, hey, why is so and so saying

947
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: that you did X Y.

948
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: And you can't get mad at me for saying that,

949
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: because obviously i'd want to know you.

950
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: Can expect, like I would expect if I'm telling you

951
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: something like that, that it's probably going to get back

952
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: to that person.

953
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

954
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: So I don't think she was an asshole. I think

955
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: she was trying to, you know, look out for her

956
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: friend and that's but sometimes unfortunately, things like this happen

957
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: when you're trying, when you're you know, I think everyone's

958
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: intentions were good, but it kind of went south. Unfortunately.

959
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: Having said that, the guy then sending threatening messages to

960
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: her husband like that just should show the friend, ye

961
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: his character, because if I heard someone say something and

962
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: you know this has happened in the past before. I've

963
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: then gone to the person and said, hey, can we

964
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: talk this out, because I'd love there must be a

965
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: misunderstanding come from it, at least with a place of kindness.

966
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: But for the due to a straight up start threatening

967
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: that kind of does validate what does has been saying.

968
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, I'm going to go against a little bit

969
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: what you're saying. Okay, I don't think she should have

970
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 3: mentioned it to that guy at all. I think there's

971
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 3: a way to protect your friend the friend. I think

972
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: that the yeah, maybe the friend dating yeah, needed to

973
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: have been more prospective of where she got that information,

974
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 3: because that's really that's really just throwing your your og

975
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: friend under the bus for a.

976
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: Dude that you don't even know. I would say, like

977
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 1: a friend, I heard this from someone.

978
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like ideally go to the person and not say who.

979
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: I think you can get your answers without even saying

980
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 3: you heard anything. I think you can ask really until

981
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: questions without even saying you heard anything, and just make

982
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 3: him kind of answer things and get your own like

983
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: know what you know, right, know what you know? Keep

984
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 3: it in like a little file folder. But then like

985
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: ask without throwing a friend under the bus, because she

986
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 3: really was trying to be protective of her and.

987
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: She didn't get protected back.

988
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: And I hate that.

989
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's fair, Yeah, I agree. I just

990
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: I think to make it sounds like she still wants

991
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: this friendship, but she's hurt. So I think that if

992
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 2: she can see it, as you know, maybe her intention

993
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: was not to hurt you. It really was just to

994
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: get an answer, but she made a mistake and she

995
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: didn't protect her like. I think that that could bring

996
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: them together to have a conversation and to understand a

997
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: little bit of Like again, the intentions, it might not

998
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 2: have been right, but the intentions I don't think were

999
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: on both sides. To me, it sounds like the intentions

1000
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: were not bad intentions.

1001
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm shooting this one over to you because you have

1002
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: had a friend breakup that was hard that you then

1003
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: reconciled they and then you reached out to her right

1004
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: because she said basically, I feel like she owes me

1005
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: an apology. So and that person wasn't going to give

1006
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: you an apology because they didn't think they did anything wrong.

1007
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: That was gonna be mine.

1008
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: But the relationship was really important to you. So to

1009
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: help someone that has had a falling out with a

1010
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: friend that wants to but probably knows they're not going

1011
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: to get the apology, how do you do it?

1012
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been a really hard one for me. I

1013
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: have felt in the past like I've kind of always

1014
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: been the with my family a lot with other things,

1015
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: like I'm always on the hose to say sorry. I'm

1016
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: always on why can't someone else say sorry? But with

1017
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: that friendship breakup, which has been reconciled, I was like

1018
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: that for a while, like I need an apology, and

1019
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: I was finally was like, if I want this friendship,

1020
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: the only way is that I go to her and

1021
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 2: I apologize because she's not going to do it. And

1022
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: I can be mad about that, I can be whatever,

1023
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: but at this point, it's my choice to either save

1024
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: this friendship or not save this.

1025
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: Friendship because it was going to go one where the eye.

1026
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 2: It was going to go one way or the other.

1027
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: And I've had a friendship go the other and I'm

1028
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: not coming back and saying I'm sorry because that one

1029
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: both Yeah, that one, like you know, so, I'm not

1030
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: saying that one friendship was more important over the other,

1031
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: but at the same time, Sometimes you do have to

1032
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: look at friendships and go, okay, is it worth just going?

1033
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: All right, I'm hurt, but I'm going to come to

1034
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: you and apologize anyway. I apologize for my part in it.

1035
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: But this is what hurt me, and that's what I

1036
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: did with my friend. We sat down, we did that.

1037
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 2: She got to say what hurt her, the reason she

1038
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 2: wasn't in a place to come to me and apologize,

1039
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: and I just you know, even in that conversation, did

1040
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: I feel one hundred percent did I feel like she

1041
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: really kind of owned up to her part. No? I didn't,

1042
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: But I decided that I was going to put that

1043
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: aside for our friendship to be able to move forward.

1044
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: So I guess to our dearest listener, oh, is that

1045
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: friendship worth worth?

1046
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1047
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: You know, doing and putting aside your probably not going

1048
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: to get an apology.

1049
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: I also to say, real time apologies.

1050
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,959
Speaker 2: We have and I had probably four to six months.

1051
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: Maybe my best friend and I broke up for five years,

1052
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: five years and she's the love of my life, but

1053
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 3: she was going through a divorce and it was just

1054
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 3: a trickier headspace for her that I had a breath

1055
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: blowout where she thought I said something. I apologize and

1056
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: I remember I just said I will not fight with you.

1057
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: I love you too much. I won't And five years

1058
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: later we both came back together. We have been in

1059
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: separable since so I and sometimes it's like you just

1060
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: need a breather and you just and she's going going

1061
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 3: through a divorce is hard, hard, and so well.

1062
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: And I think you can get and I'm learning this

1063
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: because I'm the worst at this. I think you can

1064
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: get so stuck in the weeds and the details that like,

1065
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: you're not going to be You're not gonna you think

1066
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: you're right. I think I'm right. Us discussing every little

1067
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: detail is going to get us nowhere, and then you

1068
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: just have to go. You just got to throw it

1069
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: up and say if it's worth it, like say your piece.

1070
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: I think you have to say I was her and

1071
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: you know whatever. But sometimes you're not going to get

1072
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: in with a specific situation. She's gonna think she's right,

1073
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna think you're right, and you're just gonna have

1074
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: to go. You know what, That's okay, I love you

1075
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: too much, Like you said, we're just not going to

1076
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: fight about it. Let's move on.

1077
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if it really matters to you, you're gonna

1078
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: have to be the person that yeah, and sometimes that's hard.

1079
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to be that person.

1080
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

1081
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: And I you know, yeah, our little friend breakup that

1082
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: we had with someone else, I haven't I'm okay not

1083
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: reaching out.

1084
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like we both did well. We tried, yeah,

1085
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: and so that's why I think I feel okay.

1086
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: And then she tried to not see me in Pottery

1087
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: Barn even though I saw her, and then she avoided me.

1088
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: I was like, no, that's what friend would do that, Like,

1089
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: no real friend would purposely avoid Like what.

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00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I think that we feel okay

1091
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: about it because we did try. Yeah, we didn't just

1092
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: I was like, let's talk to me when you're ready.

1093
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: I would love to have a conversation. And it was

1094
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: done their choice, so what you know, at that point,

1095
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't important enough to then yep, right to then.

1096
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: And then that's when I think you have to go.

1097
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: And maybe if you do go to this friend and

1098
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to talk or she doesn't want it

1099
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: might not be important to her. Now she's obviously going

1100
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: through a lot whatever, she may not want to but

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00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: I have had a friend.

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00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: That a separate friend that we went through something similar

1103
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: and we never got back together. Yeah, and it was

1104
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 3: twenty fifty. Yeah, it was like twenty years And honestly,

1105
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: it's weird to say it now. I'm what a gift

1106
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: because who I had to be to participate in that

1107
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: friendship was not did not fit anymore.

1108
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so true. I remember I had a friend

1109
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: breakup with someone. We were on a show together, and

1110
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: we had a friend breakup. We got back together for

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00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: dinner when I was in San Francisco playing a show,

1112
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: and I thought maybe we would then be friends because

1113
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: we were friends for so many years. But it was

1114
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: realizing that the girl that I was in that I

1115
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: was so controlled by her, and so then I was like,

1116
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I actually am okay having peace within

1117
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 1: our breakup and then going separate ways.

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00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 2: That's right.

1119
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: So you start to I just.

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Speaker 3: Don't that if this doesn't reconcile, that the world is over,

1121
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 3: because I know that is mourning the loss of someone

1122
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 3: still alive. It's got to be one of the hardest

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Speaker 3: things to do. Human friendship breakups are not easy.

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00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: Hard. Yeah, that's like a whole other episode, right, yeah,

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00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: trying to work through that. But I hope it all

1126
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: works out. If it really yes, if it really is

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00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: important to you, reach out at least so you know

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00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: that you tried and you know it's important to you. Okay, ladies,

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Speaker 1: I got to go to Kentucky, so