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Speaker 1: You can, but you're not going to be successful, happy,

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Speaker 1: you possibly could have. Show the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the wrap, but I'm in the break, Pa.

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Speaker 2: You change everything out, and I just wonder if you

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is this so the rear brake set up? Is it

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Speaker 4: Cable?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the

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Speaker 3: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car

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Speaker 3: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on

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Speaker 3: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 3: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors.

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Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take your call

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Speaker 1: So how is your week? It was a nice week.

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Speaker 1: Pleasant week. Was sort of a quiet week in the shop.

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Speaker 1: Don't go away, no, God, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Is and real quick before we go to the phones,

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Speaker 1: you know, going back to that PC and G flyer

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Speaker 1: over and talk to John and tennessee twenty three Yukon. John.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, How can I help?

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Speaker 2: How are you today?

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Speaker 1: I'm very good.

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Speaker 2: I bought a twenty twenty three Yukon. We have a

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I think you bought the wrong vehicle

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Speaker 1: You know, I think replacing or putting a two speed

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Speaker 2: Apparently they started this transmission I think at twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and it sounds like you've got an all

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Speaker 2: No, it's a four wheel drive. It's definitely. I run

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Speaker 1: Oh, you can take it. You can take it out

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Speaker 2: I mostly drive it in Uh, excuse me, mostly drive

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Speaker 1: Well, you can put it in two wheel drive and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a thought. See if I could just take

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Speaker 1: Well, I think what you're going to find is, I

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Speaker 1: The danger, as I always understood it is towing a

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Speaker 1: Was always how does that transfer case get lubricated? You know,

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Speaker 2: Apparently you have to order order that it comes. I think,

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Speaker 1: Now, this might be a big pain in the butt,

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Speaker 2: And then to do that with this transmission, with this one,

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Speaker 1: Of the rear right and then pull the rear drive shaft. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so you know, is that is that the ultimate solution?

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Speaker 2: John once a year? So I'm almost to the point

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Speaker 2: now where I'm saying I'll just pay to habit ships

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Speaker 2: And then I told my wife, I said, next year,

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Speaker 2: what is flat tow of them?

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Speaker 1: Well, there's only.

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Speaker 2: Problem is those putting those base plates on a car,

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Speaker 2: removing that front fashion and everything. It's about a forty

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Speaker 1: Right right, it sounds it sounds like you got it

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Speaker 1: just look at wiring. How is that? How was that

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Speaker 1: again we're working at it, if we left it in

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Speaker 1: two wheel drive and towed it without a drive shift

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Speaker 1: in it, does that? Does that effectively do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: What's it going to cost to ship it to wherever

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Speaker 2: It's about eight hundred bucks one way, which you know,

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Speaker 2: the one guy at GM told me, he said, if

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Speaker 2: I'll trade cars right, yeah, and not be messing with it.

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Speaker 1: I go back to my original statement, John, you bought

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Speaker 1: the wrong car. I'm sorry, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Think I did. I totally agree. One just goes to

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Speaker 1: Listen, let me ask you. Let me ask you the John,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you the important question. And well, I

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Speaker 1: then you're really in trouble, brother.

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Speaker 2: So no, no, this is the car my wife wanted.

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Speaker 2: I had a twenty seventeen Buick conclave that I was

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Speaker 1: Well, then at least we know that she's happy. John,

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Speaker 1: b Well, I gotta go, babe. I'm running ding of

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Auto Zone studio. Here's Ron, Welcome back running

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Speaker 1: the character Here. Let's let's wonder over and let's go

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Speaker 1: to Kenton, Maine. Oaight, cheap Wrangler Kent. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor.

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Speaker 5: Hello, thank you for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, sir.

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Speaker 5: Well, the reason I'm calling today is because I recently

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Speaker 5: picked up another two thousand and eight jeep Wrangler, and

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Speaker 5: I noticed that I have some a small dripping of

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Speaker 5: my anti freeze coming out the bottom driver's side of

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Speaker 5: the radiator, which is the opposite side of the hose.

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Speaker 5: And I was preparing to tackle a radiator replacement, and

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Speaker 5: then I thought, why don't I look at the stop

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Speaker 5: leak products. Maybe it could work, or maybe it could

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Speaker 5: buy some time. And I saw the case A on

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Speaker 5: there and remembered your having mentioned it, and so I

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Speaker 5: just thought I would ask is it worth it to

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Speaker 5: go ahead and try the seiler before I do the replacement.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about the vehicle. Ken

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Speaker 1: how many miles are on this.

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Speaker 5: One hundred and thirty seven thousand.

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Speaker 1: All right? So you know at a radiator, all right,

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Speaker 1: you're planning to keep, You're planning to keep the vehicle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good. I was hoping to try to get

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Speaker 5: a few years out of it. It was a recent trade,

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Speaker 5: and I was unhappy with the with the twenty twelve,

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Speaker 5: and I read horror stories about on the internet about

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Speaker 5: the dreaded pentastar tick. I didn't want to get involved.

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Speaker 5: I'm back with it. I went back to a three

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Speaker 5: point eight and it just runs and drives beautifully, and

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Speaker 5: so I would like to get a few years out

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Speaker 5: of it. And yeah, it makes sense. I definitely. It's

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Speaker 5: probably owede an old a radiator two or three times

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Speaker 5: and with this many miles on it.

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Speaker 1: Right, you know, listen, if anything's going to do the job,

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Speaker 1: it'll be case Seal. If I was going to do anything,

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Speaker 1: it would be case Seal. If the vehicle had three

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles on it, you were getting rid of

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Speaker 1: it in three months, then I think it's a case

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Speaker 1: Seal thing. If it's a matter of you can't get

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Speaker 1: it in for rep, it's let's do k seal and

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Speaker 1: we'll write it out for three to four to five

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Speaker 1: six months and then get it in. K Seal is,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, the best cooling system seal are on

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Speaker 1: the market today. All Right, it works really well. Now

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Speaker 1: here's the catch. K seal has a hard time with

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Speaker 1: a rubber gasket. It's really designed to be effective with

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Speaker 1: hard shim, hard hard metal stop area types of leaks.

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Speaker 1: Now that being said, have I seen it work on

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Speaker 1: situations with radiators where I know the end gasket was seeping. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely have. If you ask k Seal Tech support,

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Speaker 1: they'll tell you no, it's not supposed to work there,

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Speaker 1: but it does. I've seen it. I've had it work.

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Speaker 1: You know, it works really well. It's a great product.

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Speaker 1: But my situation, or my concern is in this situation.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you just got the vehicle and you're

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Speaker 1: planning to drive it long term, you can try k Seal,

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Speaker 1: but I'd rather see you go through the cooling system.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather go and have you put a radiator in

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Speaker 1: it while it's out, you know, water pump, thermostat, replace

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Speaker 1: the coolant. You know, let's service it, you know. And

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Speaker 1: the first thing I would actually do before I even

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00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: got into doing the radiator is I'd get down to

434
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 1: my local AutoZone and I would grab some they called

435
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: them litmus paper tests and test the coolant, not strength,

436
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: but the cooling system acidity is the cooling system acidic?

437
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: Has it started to turn like into that? You know,

438
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: it's bad. It's got more of an acid base than

439
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: what it's supposed to have than a neutral base, and

440
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, it just may be time for some cooling

441
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: system repairs. Does the system look original, original hoses, water

442
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 1: pump et, cetera.

443
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 5: I haven't looked at it that closely yet, but I

444
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 5: am looking at the idea that while I'm in there,

445
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 5: For example, you certainly hoses are cheap, so you'd be crazy.

446
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 5: You don't want to have a lower radiator hose after

447
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 5: changing the radiator and have to then deal with that.

448
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm considering a small package at least of

449
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 5: the hoses and whatever else I might need. And I've

450
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 5: been looking at radiators and called a couple of shops,

451
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 5: and I do see that, you know, if you're trying

452
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 5: to get an original replacement, it can be a little

453
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 5: bit of a pricey radiator for a single row plastic

454
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 5: tank radiator that might not last all that long. And

455
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 5: then I see these after market all aluminum aluminum tanks

456
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 5: that you know, start a little bit closer to they're

457
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 5: actually they're less than the ones that I've been calling

458
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 5: and asking about some of them around, you know, one

459
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 5: hundred and eighty two hundred dollars.

460
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, go take a can, go take a look at

461
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: osc if you can find one. One stop cooling, they're out,

462
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: They're out of the West Coast OSC. We use them

463
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: in the shop all the time. I believe they're available

464
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: at AutoZone. They work really well. It's going to be

465
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: a traditional plastic tank aluminum center, all right. But we've had,

466
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: oh I don't know, a one percent failure rate, and

467
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: I'm being I'm probably over exaggerating there because I just

468
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: don't recall having that many failures with them. They work

469
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: out of the box really well. OSC, which I found

470
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: out later on, stands for one stop cooling, you know,

471
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: but that'll work. And then when you're looking for hoses,

472
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: nobody better than Gates and you might as well put

473
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: a belt on it. And I believe Gates has some

474
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: hose and belt packages. You'd have to check at your

475
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: local parts supplier and see what they've got. But it's time.

476
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: It's one hundred and thirty thousand miles. If that's got

477
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: original host clamps on it, all the hoses on that car,

478
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: oh yeah, all those hoses are one hundred thirty thousand miles.

479
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: We're talking fourteen years old right in eighteen Yeah, I'm sorry,

480
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: at two thousand and eight, so you know, at that point,

481
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, you do a system overhaul. Coolant belt hoses,

482
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: thermostat water pump, some good quality products.

483
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 5: That makes sense, so I don't have to go back

484
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 5: into that, right, and I can move to something else once.

485
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: Do it right, and you're probably not going to find

486
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: I would venture to guess that if we didn't have

487
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: a UAW strike in parts failures or lack of parts

488
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: issues to put up with that, Chrysler probably doesn't make

489
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 1: that radiator readily available anymore anyway, it's too old.

490
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 5: So oh yeah, so I probably am looking at the aftermarket.

491
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And that's why you know. And then where

492
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: you get the parts from is just as important as

493
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: what you get. And that's why you know when I

494
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: send you to AutoZone, I know if you have a problem,

495
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: they're going to take care of it because that's the

496
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: kind of company they are, that's the kind of people

497
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: they are. You know, you're only as strong as your

498
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: best supplier. I always say, I happen to have a

499
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: I just happen to have a belief based in that.

500
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: Been in the business a while, so to speak. But

501
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: you know, while you're doing a radiator, belts, hoses, thermostat

502
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: water pump, visit it once.

503
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 5: Is there any reason why I would be wanting to

504
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 5: consider a three row radiator.

505
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: No or no.

506
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 5: I don't need nothing that.

507
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: Fancy, not unless you're not unless you're going to start

508
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: modifying something. You know, the whole science of how a

509
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: car works is really interesting. I've actually seen cases where

510
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: hot rodders have put big, giant four row or three

511
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: row radiators in cars and they run hotter. And part

512
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: of the issue is is that the coolant it's it's

513
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: it's wider, right, The radiator is wider, so there's more

514
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: capacity the water flow through the radiator. They don't change

515
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: the rate of time that the water is or the

516
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: coolant is in the radiator, so it doesn't have proper

517
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: time to dissipate and give off heat, so the heat

518
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: exchange doesn't take place, and it will actually cause the

519
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 1: vehicle to run hotter. And they scratch their heads as

520
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: to why. I'm not saying it happens a lot, but

521
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: I've seen it. Don't think more is better. You know,

522
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: we had an old saying back when I was starting

523
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: out in this business. I learned it early on from

524
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: the guys that were doing it. Then you know, mild

525
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: goes wild and less is more, and it's really true,

526
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: until you understand the engineering or the impact and the

527
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: physics of what you're changing, And why don't just change

528
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: it because everybody else does it? You know, sometimes it

529
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: leads you down the wrong path. You know, there's more

530
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: than a few people out there doing standard replacement radiators, gates, belts, gates, hoses,

531
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, water pumps, thermostats and so forth. And no problems,

532
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: all right, sir.

533
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 5: All right, well, thank you for the advice about the

534
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 5: osc radiators. And I will keep in mind that the

535
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 5: the CASEO may buy me sometime and it may not,

536
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 5: and will find out when I try it. But it

537
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 5: won't hurt nothing else or cause any problems.

538
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Won't hurt anything else. And the other way.

539
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: Case heal's not going to work if it's a real

540
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: big rubber gasket leak, like I said, k seal doesn't

541
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: work well on that, But it works well if that's

542
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: a metallic leak from the core of the radiator itself.

543
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: So or if the block had a deficiency in its

544
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: something like that. Good luck to you, Kent. Let us

545
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: know how it works out, and enjoy your new vehicle.

546
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car. Doctor. We're back right

547
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: after this welcome back run any of the car Doctor.

548
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: By the way, Tom writes in from Newburgh, New York. Hey, Ron,

549
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: what the heck is PSC and G Public Service Electric,

550
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: Public Service Electric and Gas. But in New Jersey there

551
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: are a utility company. But in New Jersey a lot

552
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: of people say it's park, sleep, eat and go home.

553
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: If you've ever seen him working on the road crewise so,

554
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: but that's sorry, fellas. Let's go over and talk to

555
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: Doug in Oklahoma, oh one Chrysler Town and Country. Doug,

556
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Welcome to the car Doctor, sir. How can I help?

557
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, it's a pleasure to talk to you.

558
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: Thank you as well.

559
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 4: I have Oh, I've got a two thousand and one

560
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: Town and Country with the three three.

561
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: Uh.

562
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: This vehicle has been dependable for the past ten years.

563
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: About three or four months ago, my daughter was driving

564
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: it and called and said, hey, it quit running, so

565
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: I had it towed to her house. I went over

566
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: and looked at this, and looked looked at that, and uh,

567
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: I checked it's coming up with the P zero one

568
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: oh eight.

569
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: Okay, over and over.

570
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: I've replaced the map sinsor No, it didn't fix anything.

571
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: So I went and put the old one back in,

572
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: and I owned it out and checked it according to

573
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: the shop manual, and it checked checked out good, so

574
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: uh it it would it would run good. And then

575
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 4: I replaced the EGR valve because I had a similar

576
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: Chrysler car that was doing the same thing. It was

577
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: a rough idol. It wouldn't run right. Replaced the e

578
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 4: g R valve. Ran perfect for two weeks. Then I

579
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: get a call again that it's doing the same thing

580
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 4: and that it's stalled, and so I pulled the codes again.

581
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: Was at P zero one oh eight, the same thing.

582
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: I've checked grounds, I've checked wiring, I've checked fuel pressure,

583
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: and the main problem is you can't get it out

584
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: on the road to check how it runs on the road.

585
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: You can't the problem at the time when the failure occurs, right.

586
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 4: And I put my I did a I have an

587
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: ANSEL two thousand, I believe scanner. And what do you

588
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: call it? The at idol? The I've heard you say

589
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: it a million times, the trim fuel trim and at

590
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: an idol it's about zero to like a negative six, okay,

591
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 4: But and I put fuel pressure gauge on it hit

592
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: strong sixty one pounds when you it just that's constant,

593
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: and it's just really weird. One time it'll it'll run

594
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: perfect for fiften minutes and then it would just like

595
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: it just shuts off, right, And then another time you

596
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 4: let it run, it'll just run flawless. Then it will

597
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: start missing and jerking, and then it will just die.

598
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: Then you let it sit for fifteen minutes and it

599
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: will fire up again.

600
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: So what what kind of scan tool do you have, Doug?

601
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 4: It's an ANTL two thousand.

602
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: Okay, does that display data? I'm not familiar with that one.

603
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: Does does it display data stream?

604
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: Yes, it displays data stream? You can uh yeah, just

605
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: check the O you know, the O two. You can

606
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: check fuel trim and you can check up. You know,

607
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 4: it's not and very very extensive.

608
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like it does basic OBD two,

609
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: which is what I'm after, all right, for the purposes

610
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: of this conversation. So this is a zero to five

611
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: volt sensor map censor, all right?

612
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: Correct?

613
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: You know, keon engine off? What's the map sensor?

614
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: Say?

615
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: Where does it start? All right?

616
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: Huh oh, I'm trying to think what it was within

617
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: the parameters. All right, I believe whatever. Yeah, and I

618
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: don't remember what the parameters were, but it fell within

619
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: that race.

620
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: All right, I'll tell you what. Hang on second, let

621
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: me let me pull over, take a pause, we'll come back.

622
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: We'll finish up. Don't go anywhere, Doug, I'm running any

623
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: of the car. Doctor. We'll be back right after this.

624
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Auto Zone studio. Here's Ron. Hey,

625
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: let's get back. I can talk to Doug. Doug, you're

626
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: still there, Oklahoma way. So let's talk about P zero

627
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: one to eight in the in the three minutes we

628
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: got left. So P zero one to eight is a

629
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: fault code that sets because the engine controller, the PCM,

630
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: sees map voltage go high. It sees it go to

631
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: five vaults or four point nine volts, whatever you want

632
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: to believe, but it's it's it's a higher than normal

633
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: voltage expected. All right. When I when I think about that,

634
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: and you know you're taking the right steps. So we're

635
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: going to make some assumptions, which we both know on

636
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: family radio is a dangerous word, right, So let's let's

637
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: assume this is being set as a result of a

638
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: map sensor circuit fault, that it's really a map sensor

639
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: circuit problem. Notice I didn't say censor, I said map

640
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: sensor circuit.

641
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: Right.

642
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Could be the sensor, could be the wiring, could be

643
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: the PCM. Maybe the PCM is internally interpreting data wrong

644
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: and falsely setting the code. So what I want you

645
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: to do is I want you to go find connector

646
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: one O two. I remember connector one O two. It's

647
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of buried on the engine harness and it's in

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Speaker 1: a position. What I'm thinking about real quick is could

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Speaker 1: we have stray voltage across that connector inducing a voltage

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Speaker 1: into the map sensor circuit, creating a false one oh

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Speaker 1: eight and making the vehicle stall. Then what I'd like

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Speaker 1: you to do is find that there's two of those

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Speaker 1: MAP wires go through connector one O two, the five

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Speaker 1: vault reference and the signal return. If we could take

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Speaker 1: those two wires from the map sensor and make our

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Speaker 1: own harness and go straight shot right back to the PCM,

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Speaker 1: tap in, cut the wires, leave yourself enough wire and

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Speaker 1: lead that you can solder it and then put it

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Speaker 1: back if you want. But if we create two wires

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Speaker 1: there bypass those that are in the harness and then

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Speaker 1: go and take the ground lead and make your own ground.

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Speaker 1: Does that solve a problem and make it go away?

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Speaker 1: Do those things. If you need a wiring diagram, let

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Speaker 1: me know all be trying and get one to you

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it. Then I'm moninating in the

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Speaker 1: car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.