1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: It is Verdictra Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: and history was made. Kevin McCarthy becomes the first House 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Speaker in American history to be voted out of the 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: speaker's job. The vote to sixteen to two ten to 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: vacate the chair. Eight Republicans voted with the Democrats to 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: remove him. Those Republicans Biggs, Bucks, Birchant, Crane, Gates, good Mace, 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: and Rosendale Center. 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: This is obviously a day of history. 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: It's somewhat not shocking to me because there's been a 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: lot of this, you know, bickering back and forth since 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy got the job. We saw how long it 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: took him to get the job. 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 3: Your reaction, well, it's obviously a big, big deal. 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Uh. 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: And I have to say my sentiments today are are conflicted. 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: I think I feel like a lot of Republicans, like 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: a lot of conservatives across the country. I think some 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: of the hyperbolic sentiments on both sides of the spectrum 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: are exactly that they're hyperbolic. I think some of the 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: folks celebrating and dancing on the graves are too excited 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: about this. I think some of the folks mourning and 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: saying the republic is ending are too much in despair. 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: My reaction is as follows Number one. As I look 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: at the state of the country, House, Republicans are about 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: the only thing to be encouraged by. I mean, we've 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: got a disastrous executive branch led by Joe Biden and 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: other zealots on the left who are doing enormous damage 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: to this country. We've got a Senate that is a 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: train wreck. The Chuck Schumer Democrats are disastrous. And so 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: the lone point of hope and optimism in the elected 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: spears is the Republican House. And so I have to 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: admit I am sad to see the Republican House in 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: utter disarray and chaos. That makes me disappointed. When we 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: are fighting each other, that means we're not unified and 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: fighting the bad guys. We're not unified and fighting the 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: people who are destroying this country. At the same time, 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: I'm in the place that a lot of people are. 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: I don't know what comes next. I don't know. It 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 3: certainly appears as you and I it is just before 41 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 3: midnight Tuesday night. At this point, I have no idea 42 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: who the next Speaker of the House is going to 43 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: be It appears right now, it's not going to be 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: Kevin McCarthy. I don't know if it's someone else. What 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: I hope is, whoever the Speaker of the House is 46 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: is going to be a strong conservative leader. And listen, 47 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: my job is to represent thirty million Texans in the Senate. 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: So I'm going to stay out of House leadership elections. 49 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to trust that to the members of the House. 50 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: I'm not going to put my thumb on any particular 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: candidate on one side or the other, but I will say, 52 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 3: whoever the speaker is, hope we have a speaker that 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: is a strong conservative leader. And looking forward, what should 54 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: we be doing for the remaining three months of twenty 55 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: twenty three and for next year. I think we ought 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: to be fighting for bold conservative principles. We ought to 57 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: be taking on the Democrats. We ought to be on 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: the offense. We ought to be on the aggressive. We 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: ought to be prosecuting the case that the Biden agenda 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: is a train wreck, that it's not working, that it's 61 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: hurting millions of Americans, and that there is a better alternative. Now, Listen, 62 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: I've been arguing for over a year that the House 63 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: Republicans should be more aggressive than they have been. So, 64 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: for example, I believe we should have impeached Alejandro Majorcas. 65 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: I think we should have done so by now. We've 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: talked a lot on this podcast about the utter disaster 67 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: that our southern border has been. I think it's a 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: mistake that the House has not impeached Mayorcus yet. That 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: should be an early and top priority of whoever the 70 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: next Speaker is. I think we should have impeached Merrick Garland. 71 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: I think the absolute lawlessness and politicization of the Department 72 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: of Justice and the FBI merits impeachment. And my hope 73 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: is whoever the next speaker is makes those one and 74 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: two very early on their priority lists. I think those 75 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: are issues that unify Republicans. They unify conservatives, they unify 76 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: a lot of Americans who don't want lawless chaos and 77 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: death and sexual assault and drug overdoses and disaster in 78 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: our southern border. I think they unify people who don't 79 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: want to see law enforcement turned into a political weapon. 80 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: I think being on offense is a winning place to be, 81 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: and beyond that, when it comes to spending, I hope 82 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: that the House is passing appropriations bills that rein in 83 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: the out of control spending from the Democrats that are 84 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: causing rampant inflation that's hurting Americans across the country. I 85 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 3: think the key to winning used to have bold, optimistic, 86 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: positive conservative leadership, and I believe that good policy is 87 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: good politics. So whoever the next Speaker is, I hope 88 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: that's what we do. 89 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: There's also the politics of picking the next guy, and 90 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people saying, I don't know if 91 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: i'd want this job right now if there's this type 92 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: of fighting. There's been several members that I talked to 93 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: that said there's ideas of picking someone that could be 94 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: a unifier just to say, hey, I'm not gonna run again, 95 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: but as a unifier to finish out the term. Steve 96 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: Scalise's name, for example, has been brought up in that 97 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: capacity of saying, hey, this may be a person that 98 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: could bring us together. This someone that's saying I'm not 99 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: I don't have the intent to be the speaker after this. 100 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: Finishing this term, you guys can pick somebody else afterwards, 101 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: but let's come back together. Is that a strategy that 102 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: Republicans should at least look. 103 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: At look the idea that we should have a speaker 104 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: that's a placeholder. I don't find that very persuasive. We 105 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 3: have a majority, let's have a leader who actually leads. Now, 106 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: I'm not saying the job is easy. The job is 107 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: unbelievably hard, particularly when you have such a narrow majority. 108 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: You have a four vote majority. That means any five 109 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: Republicans get a wild hair and you could have a 110 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: revolt on your hand. And the problem is you can 111 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: have it from the right, from the left, from the middle. 112 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: You can have it parochially, you can have it geographically, 113 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: you can have it on any damn basis it is. 114 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: I've joked, I'm not sure there are many people I 115 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: dislike enough to wish that they would be Speaker of 116 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: the House. 117 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: It is an insanely difficult job. 118 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great way of putting it. 119 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: By the way, it's like you wouldn't wish this on 120 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: your worst enemy in a sense. 121 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: And it's also very different when you're a Republican. So listen, 122 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi was the speaker on an incredibly narrow Democrat majority. 123 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: But Democrats and Republicans are different in many respects. But 124 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: in Congress, one of the biggest respects is Democrats follow orders. 125 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: They are collectivists, they are statists. They are good with authority. 126 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: Whatever the authority says, they cracked the whip, and every 127 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: one of them obeys, and like lemmings, they march off 128 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: the cliff. That's what Democrats do. That's the strength of theirs. 129 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: That's a weakness of theirs. On the Republican side, we're 130 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: a bunch of individualists. In the Senate, We've got forty 131 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: nine Republicans. We got forty nine Republicans. We have fifty 132 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: five different agendas. Like it is incoherent. We're at each 133 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: other's throats. And part of the challenge with the leadership 134 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: battle in the House is it's not clear what the 135 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: demand of the conference is. So look, we had a battle. 136 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: We came inches from a shutdown, and one of the 137 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: challenges was knowing, okay, what is the demand of House 138 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: Republicans to prevent a shutdown to actually fund government? And 139 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: if there was a clearly articulated, explicit demand, I don't 140 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: know what it was. The demands fell roughly into two 141 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: broad buckets. One was some modicum of fiscal restraint. And look, 142 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: you and I believe passionately in that we've seen the 143 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: most wildly irresponsible federal government spending in history in the 144 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: last two and a half years under Democrat control. It's 145 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: driving rampant inflation, it's hurting millions of Americans, and so 146 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: reining in we've seen a forty percent increase in discretionary 147 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: spending in the last three years. COVID was an excuse 148 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: for the socialist to bankrupt this country, and so the 149 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: principle of let's have some reasonable monicum of fiscal restraint, 150 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: that's a good principle. The second broad bucket was doing 151 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 3: something significant, meaningful to rein in the utter chaos and 152 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: disaster of southern border. Now I agree emphatically with that. 153 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: It's the worst illegal immigration or a nation's history. That's 154 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: a good objective. The problem was, after articulating those two 155 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: broad buckets, what the specific ask is if you can 156 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: articulate it, Ben, you're playing closer attention than I am, 157 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: because I don't know, and it's because you had lots 158 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: of agendas that were all over the place. Now, I 159 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 3: will say there were some leaders in the House, and 160 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give a shout out to Chip Roy in particular, 161 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: as you know Chip was my old chief of staff. 162 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: He was my very first chief of staff. He's now 163 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: a congressman from Texas. I think Chip has done an 164 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 3: excellent job trying to fight for He was fighting for 165 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: Continuing Resolution that was a significant cut and discretionary spending 166 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: that had significant steps to rein in the southern border, 167 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: and unfortunately they couldn't get a majority of Republicans to support. 168 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: It, which is, by the way, disappointed. 169 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: That was maddening, it was insane, It made no sense. 170 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: I was proud of the job Chip did. I think 171 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: we need to have a clear and real vision for 172 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: Republicans and conservatives in the House. Maybe it will come 173 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: out of this. So I'm not as despondent as some 174 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: you see some voices on TV saying burn them all down. 175 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: Everyone who dared to pose McCarthy needs to be, you know, excommunicated, 176 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: and we need to salt their fields. I'm like, easy, 177 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: does it, guys. We don't have a big enough majority 178 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: to be salting anyone's fields. Let's actually focus on what matters, 179 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: which is saving this country. 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That's choq dot com. Let me ask you another, 208 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: just perspective question. There does seem to be a frustration. 209 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: And I'm in New York today and I'm up here, 210 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: and I'm. 211 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: You know, I always knew you were a secret lefty. 212 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: Look that's right, that's right, Yeah, hanging in Manhattan, but 213 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: up here doing TV. 214 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 4: All right, all right, Ben, did you mug anyone today? 215 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: No? I did not, and I made sure that I had. 216 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: I stayed away from all the crazies. 217 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: I walked from Fox News back to my hotel, back 218 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: to Fox News, back to my hotel. 219 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not. 220 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: When in Rome? When in Rome? Apparently that's what you 221 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: got to do in New York. 222 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just part of like the life here, right, 223 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: you just randomly fucked people. 224 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: But but you did at least spray some graffiti on 225 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: the subway. Well, I mean, I mean you got to 226 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: do a little bit. 227 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: I did, verdict, right, just so people would know where 228 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: to download it. That's all another big deal. It's just 229 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: an ad sign. But but I was here and there 230 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: was people that were asking and it was the same 231 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: conversation within Fox. And it's interesting when there's big news 232 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: days to kind of see how people react to it. 233 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: And we were in the green room, we were chatting 234 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: about this, and there's several other people and I'll keep 235 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: them remaining nameless, but there was a there was a 236 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: consensus of why is it the Democrats do such a 237 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: great job of arguing and fighting and yelling on the 238 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: House side behind closed doors, and they come out more united, 239 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: and then it seems like Republicans are having a lot 240 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: of out of fighting outside of the of the of 241 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: the closed door meetings and the chambers and on social 242 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: media and on Twitter. I mean, you had an example, 243 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: you had a bring it on tweet from Kevin McCarthy, 244 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: and then you had we did or I did from 245 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: Matt Gates in response like Okay, let's go. You don't 246 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: see that from Democrats, And I ask you from a 247 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: perspective on the Senate side, the Senate seems to work 248 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,239 Speaker 2: in a very different way where there's people that disagree, 249 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: you deal with it. All the time, but it doesn't 250 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 2: seem to play out the same way that it does 251 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: on the House side, and I think that can actually 252 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: hurt us as conservatives. You and I want your perspective 253 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: because you're there every day. 254 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: Look, there are different times. There's no doubt that the 255 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: House and the Senate are very different bodies. You know, 256 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: there's an old joke from House Republicans, which which is 257 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 3: that the Democrats are opponents, but the Senate is the enemy. 258 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: There's some truth to that. 259 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: I get that that there is a bicmeeral tension that 260 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: is real. The House is more chaotic, it is less unified, 261 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: it is all over the place. It's four hundred and 262 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: thirty five people and so and often the people have 263 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: not been there very long. You have people from all 264 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: disparate walks of life, and there's an ethos where they're nasty, 265 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: nastier to each other. My sense, and I've never served 266 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: in the House, but my sense is that they literally, 267 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: like in the hallways, we'll say f you to each other. 268 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: In the Senate, that doesn't happen. The Senate is number one. 269 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: It's just an older body. Listen, I'm fifty two years 270 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: old and I'm like a young chickadee in the Senate. 271 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: I've joked, if you ever want to feel young, go 272 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: to the US Senate. The median age is like one hundred. 273 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: And forty two. You'll feel sprite. 274 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: I mean, there's some truth to that, but there's also 275 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: just a sense people are there longer. It's a smaller body. 276 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: They're only one hundred of us. And whoever you're fighting today, 277 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: you may need their vote tomorrow. And so you know, 278 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: even the most partisan Democrat are not typically nasty to 279 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: you just one on one because the institution, you have 280 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: to work with each other going forward. The challenge right 281 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: now in the House is among the multiple multiple rebels. 282 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: There's no natural and uniform and consensus leader. 283 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: Listen. 284 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: In the Senate, we had a leadership challenge in November, 285 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: and I was the point of the spear on the 286 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: leadership challenge. In November of last year, we had the 287 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: first leadership challenge in sixteen years to Mitch McConnell's leader. 288 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: And you got to go back to your speech because 289 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: you're gonna forget this, and it was I remember how 290 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: and people may have missed this on Verdict when you 291 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: stood up talking about how important was to pick the 292 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: right leader. Can you go back to that day, because 293 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: this is part of that fighting and the grand debate 294 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: is I would call it behind closed doors. 295 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: Well, sure, if you look to November of twenty twenty two, 296 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: we had the first leadership challenge to Mitch McConnell in history. 297 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: He's been leader of Republicans for sixteen years, have never 298 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: been a leadership challenge. We had that in November twenty 299 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: twenty two. I was the point of the spear. I 300 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: led that challenge. And the way Republican leadership challenges work 301 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: and Republican leadership elections work, they happen the week after 302 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: the general election. So the general election happened, and immediately 303 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: the next week, the very first thing that happens, we 304 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: have leadership elections. Now there's a reason for that. You 305 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: have all these brand new baby freshman senators. They come 306 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: to Washington and they don't know what they're doing. They're 307 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: putting little bitty basement offices before they moved into their 308 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: real offices. They have no idea what's going on. And 309 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: leadership schedules the elections so fast because they don't want 310 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: any freshmen to get any up at the ideas and 311 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: decide to challenge any of the leadership. They wanted to 312 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: shut up and vote before they figured out where the 313 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: men's room is. The week after the election, you come 314 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: together to vote. I remember in twenty twelve, I was 315 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: newly elected. I show up and I'm like, wow, okay, 316 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: a Senate leadership election. This is kind of cool. This 317 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: is going to be interesting. We're going to see debates 318 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: about what should we as Senate Republicans be doing. What's 319 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: our agenda, what's our vision, what's our plan. I went 320 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 3: really looking forward to it. I got admit, man, I 321 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: was flabbergasted. I sat down. So the leadership election is 322 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: always held in the historic Senate Chamber. So that's where 323 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: the Senate used to meet for one hundred years in 324 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: the capital. It's a much smaller, billion room than the 325 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: Senate floor, and it's where we go for our leadership elections. 326 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: And you know, I expected each of the candidates for 327 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: leadership to stand up and give a speech and say 328 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: here's what I want to do if you elect me. 329 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 4: That doesn't happen. 330 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 3: I mean, think back to when you and I were 331 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: in junior high someone was running for president of the 332 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: student council in Junior High. They'd stand up and say, okay, 333 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: elect me president of the student council, and I'm going 334 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: to get chocolate ice cream in the cafeteria. And the 335 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: students say, hey, I want chocolate ice cream in the cafeteria. Okay, 336 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to vote for Ben Great. None of that happens. Instead, 337 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: the way a Senate leadership election works as you have 338 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: three or four senators stand up and give nominating speeches 339 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 3: praising the incumbent leadership, and I just I mean we're 340 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: talking effusive, ass kissing, puffing, empty speeches about how amazing 341 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: the existing leaders are, one after the other after the other. 342 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: And then leadership gets elected by acclamation and the leader 343 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: gets up and says, thank you very much. All right, 344 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 3: moving forward, and there's no there's not a word of 345 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 3: like what we're going to do, what we believe, what 346 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: we're like, what the plan is. None of that happens. 347 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: I remember the first time I'm sitting there and going 348 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: this is weird. All right, Well, let's fast forward to 349 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. We have the leadership elections, and the 350 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 3: very first salvo in the battle is is I made 351 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: a motion to delay the elections a month to delay 352 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 3: them until after the Georgia runoff. So you remember there 353 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: was a runoff for who was good the next senator 354 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: from Georgia. 355 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: In Georgia with herschel Wamer, we had no idea what 356 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: was going to happen. 357 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I stood up and I said two things 358 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 3: to my colleagues. I said, number one, listen, if herschel 359 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: Walker wins, he deserves to say and who our leader is, 360 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: if he's going to be one of the senators, he 361 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 3: deserves to have input in this. So we ought to 362 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: wait until December sixth until we know who the next 363 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: Senator from. 364 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 4: Georgia is going to be. 365 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: But I said, secondly, we just came out of an 366 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: election in twenty twenty two where we got our ass kicked. 367 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: And I said, listen, given the absolute disaster that is 368 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: the Biden administration, the Biden agenda, the Biden record, we 369 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 3: should have had a phenomenal election. We should have won 370 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: the Senate. We should have won a big, big majority 371 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: in the House. We should be resurgent right now. Instead, 372 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: we lost the Senate. In fact, we lost ground. We 373 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: ended up losing a seat in the Senate and we 374 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: won a tiny, minuscule fore vote majority in the House. 375 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: And what I s said to the conference, I said, listen, 376 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: in any ordinary organization and any company in America, if 377 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: I'm working for a private company and I'm in charge 378 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 3: of a division and I lost one hundred million dollars, 379 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 3: my boss wouldn't be like, hey, great, great job, ted 380 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: keep doing what you're doing. They'd be like, no, what 381 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: the hell's wrong. Let's talk about what you screwed up 382 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: and let's go fix it, because it's not okay to 383 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: lose one hundred million dollars. Well, we just got clobbered 384 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: in the last election. I said, we ought to spend 385 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 3: the next month talking about and debating what we did 386 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: right and what we did wrong. And I pointed out further, 387 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 3: I said, listen, we just spent the last two years 388 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two with a handful 389 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: of Republicans joining with the Democrats to pass the Democrat agenda. 390 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 3: I said, listen, maybe that's a good idea. I don't 391 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 3: think it is, but but maybe you could argue it's 392 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: a good idea. But I can say, at a minimum, 393 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 3: what is indisputable is the Democrats don't do this. We 394 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: had two years with a Republican President Donald Trump in 395 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: a Republican House and a Republican Senate, and there was 396 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: not a single bill, not one that the Democrats joined 397 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 3: with the Republicans to pass the Republican agenda. So they 398 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: never ever ever do it, and we spent two years 399 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: doing it. Now seems to me that was a really 400 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: bad electoral strategy. But we had to discuss that, and 401 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: if you disagree, let's talk about it. And then what 402 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: I did secondly, I mean, I mean my speech was 403 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 3: forty five minutes long right at the outset. What I 404 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 3: did secondly is I turned to Mitch McConnell in the 405 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: historic Senate Chamber and I said, Mitch, over the next 406 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 3: two years, what are you prepared to fight on? Is 407 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: there anything you're prepared to fight on? I said, listen, 408 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: there are a lot of things. I think we ought 409 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: to stand up and fight. I think the biggest reason 410 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: we got clobbered is we didn't stand and fight nearly enough. 411 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: We didn't stand for anything, and that's why we didn't win. 412 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: But I said, you tell us, there may be a 413 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: dozen things I think we should fight on. Maybe you 414 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 3: disagree with me, you don't think we should fight or 415 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: a dozen things, But is there one over the next 416 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: two years, or is the position a Republican leadership. We 417 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: will surrender, we will roll over, we will grab our 418 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: ankles on everything. If that's your position, okay, but let's 419 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: be honest about it, all right. The end of my 420 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 3: forty five minute speech, Mitch McConnell stands up and he 421 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: gives a speech to the conference. He doesn't address a 422 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: single question I've asked. He doesn't say anything he's willing 423 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 3: to fight on. Instead, he points at a series of 424 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: senators and he goes, oh, I gave twenty million to 425 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: your campaign. I gave twenty five million to your campaign. 426 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 3: I gave thirty million to your campaign. I gave thirty 427 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: five million to your campaign. 428 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: That was his whole speech. 429 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 3: It was essentially, shut up, I spent the money, Now 430 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: you vote for me. That was the leadership election we 431 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: ended up voting. I needed twenty five votes to prevail. 432 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: There were forty nine of us, so twenty five would win. 433 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: I got sixteen, so I fell nine short. Now, on 434 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: one level, that's frustrating. On another level, those are the 435 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 3: first sixteen votes ever cast against Mitch. After that, Rick Scott, 436 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: my colleague from Florida ran for leader against Mitch. I 437 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: voted for Rick. Rick got ten votes, so ten votes. Again, 438 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: those were the first ten votes cast against Mitch, but 439 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: the high water mark were the sixteen that voted in 440 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 3: favor of my motion delay the leadership election. That's frustrating 441 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: at one level, but it is also signs that people 442 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 3: are recognizing we need to change what we're doing, and 443 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 3: I hear that across Texas all the time. 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I think it's a bad 481 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: news cycle. I mean, hell, you know, I still the 482 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: timing and this is just me as a media guy. 483 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: I was yelling at the TV today when this happened, going, 484 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: you're making history getting rid of the speaker for the 485 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: first time in history of this country. And you couldn't 486 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 2: have waited maybe one or two more days and at 487 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: least had the media and the coverage beyond Hunter Biden 488 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 2: being in federal court today, But you gave them an 489 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: out and we didn't have to cover that story. He 490 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: was in federal court today and that just got disappeared. 491 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: You're going through an impeachment inquiry. I don't know what 492 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 2: ramifications this may have on that, but how quick should 493 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: the Republicans move to fill this spot? 494 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 3: Well, listen, the timing was driven by the individual who 495 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: made the motion to vacate, and so if there was 496 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: a systematic strategy behind it, I'm not aware of it. 497 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: That's part of the challenge is that you don't have 498 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: a clear, consistent demand. 499 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 4: That leads to a victory. 500 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. I hope that we do. That's 501 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: a hard thing to get in part because very few 502 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: House members will defer to each other, and so you've 503 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: got lots of people putting out lots of ideas that 504 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: are all out there. 505 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: In the cacophony. 506 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: I don't know how long the House will take. And listen, 507 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 3: I've never served in the House. I'm not remotely an 508 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: expert on House procedure. I think they will have a battle. 509 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: They're different people right now that seem to be putting 510 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: themselves forward to be potential speakers. I'm seeing coverage on 511 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 3: the news that Steve Scalise is making a run at it. 512 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true. That's at least what 513 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 3: was reported on Fox. I was on Hannity tonight. Jim 514 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: Jordan was on right before me. It sure seemed like 515 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: Sean Hannity was trying to talk Jim Jordan into doing it. 516 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 3: Jim was noncommittal. He said, that's going to be up 517 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: for the conference to decide. I don't know if somebody 518 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 3: else will be in the mix. I have no idea. 519 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: I will stay out of it. That's a decision for 520 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: House Republicans to decide. What I hope is whoever the 521 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 3: speaker is, and I don't know if they go back 522 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: to Kevin McCarthy again that you know, we had what 523 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 3: four hundred and thirty two votes for Kevin back at 524 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: the beginning of this conference, so maybe Kevin comes back. 525 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: That's possible too. Whoever the speaker is. I hope we 526 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: have a clear, positive conservative vision, and I do think 527 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: we would be better off. As I mentioned at the 528 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 3: outset of this pod, if House Republicans had started off 529 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: by impeaching Alejandro Majorcis, the results today. 530 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 4: Might have been different. 531 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: If we were in the midst of impeaching Merrick Garland, 532 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 3: the results might have been different. I do think the 533 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: combination of number one, the debt ceiling fight, where where 534 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: Conservatives did not get much of anything, and then a 535 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: clean cr I do think there was a frustration that 536 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: was manifested in votes, and so I think the way 537 00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: you win elections is by having serious principle fights that matter. 538 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 4: It's not easy to do. 539 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: In the House, so I'm not diminishing how difficult it is, 540 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: but I think that's the path to victory. 541 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: I want to move to something else that obviously got 542 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: pushed back in the headlines, but it still is important. 543 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: The crime wave that we're seeing is not just sweeping 544 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: the nation, but now it's affecting democratic leaders and leaders 545 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: in the liberal movement like we haven't seen before, and 546 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: it's happening way more often. 547 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. 548 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: You have a Democratic Representative, Henry Queller, who was carjacked 549 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: at gunpoint in DC. This comes as in just the past, 550 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: well it was in a twenty four hour period. You 551 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: had a liberal gay reporter that was shot and killed 552 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: in his home in Philly. You had a far left 553 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: activist that was stabbed to death by a deranged stranger 554 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: in Brooklyn in front of his girlfriend. You had this 555 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: Democratic congressman who was carjacked at gunpoint in DC by 556 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: four African American men. And yet we have Democrats who 557 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: have a soft on crime policies that aren't just hurting 558 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 2: their neighborhoods that I mentioned these different spots, but it's 559 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: hurting people in Texas as well. And almost every House 560 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: Democrat voted against the Republican efforts to stop the DC 561 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: Week on Crime bill, which specifically would have reduced carjacking penalties. 562 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: This is something that the Democrats, I mean they voted 563 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: for its Aldred for example, voted with the Dems on 564 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: this one. 565 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: It's shocking to me. 566 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: Well, listen, crime is out of control in this country, 567 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: and it's an issue that has people understandably very concerned. 568 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: I watched tonight the video of the liberal activists in 569 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: New York at four in the morning being stabbed to 570 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: death on the streets of New York by a guy 571 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: that certainly appears deranged. It was horrific to watch. You're right, 572 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: the news of the left wing journalist in Philadelphia who 573 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: was shot I think seven times in his own home 574 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: and killed in the past few days. Look, Henry Quayar 575 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: is a Democrat congressman from Texas. I know Henry well. 576 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: Henry represents Laredo up to San Antonio. Henry is the 577 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: most conservative of the Texas Democrats. I worked hand in 578 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 3: hand with Henry, for example, on the Texas Bridges. We've 579 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: talked on this podcast before about four bridges from Texas 580 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: to Mexico that Henry and I teamed up in and 581 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: won big legislative victories to build new bridges to Mexico 582 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: for legal commerce, to expand bridges. Henry, as I said, 583 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 3: is by far the most conservative of the Texas Democrats. Well, 584 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 3: in the last couple of days, Henry was coming to 585 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: his apartment in DC. It was nine thirty at night 586 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: and he was getting out of his car and it 587 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: was carjacked. He was carjacked by four individuals. They put 588 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: a gun in his face, they stole the car, they 589 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: stole his luggage. Presumably I haven't spoken to Henry since 590 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: it happened, but you have to assume that with a 591 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: gun in his face, he was afraid for his life. 592 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 3: I mean, that is frightening. My understanding is Henry lives 593 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: at an apartment building where there were multiple members of 594 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: Congress who lived there. That there are apparently multiple members 595 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: of congressional leadership who live there, which means there are 596 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: a lot of Capitol police around there. And at nine 597 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: thirty at night he was carjacked on the streets of DC. 598 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: And then that reflects the crime wave that is sweeping 599 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: this country. 600 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 4: Now. 601 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: The DC City Council, which is populated by left wing Democrats, 602 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: they voted to lower the penalties for violent crimes, including carjackings. 603 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: In particular, they voted to lower the sentence from twenty 604 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 3: one years to seven years, and they voted to lower 605 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 3: the sentence from forty years if armed to fifteen years, 606 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: and under the revised code, carjacking is now divided into 607 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: three gradations dependent on severity, with the lowest penalties for 608 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 3: an unarmed defense ranging from four to eighteen years, and 609 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 3: the highest penalties from an armed defense ranging from twelve 610 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: to twenty four years. Now in the Congress, thankfully, the 611 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 3: Congress has the ability to rescind any legislation in the 612 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: District of Columbia. And the reason for that is the 613 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: Constitution gives Congress total authority over DC. Unlike a state. 614 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: We can't rescind laws in Texas or any other state. 615 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: But DC is a federal district in Congress has plenary 616 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: authority over it. And so in Congress we voted to 617 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 3: rescind these softened crime laws that lessen the penalties for 618 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 3: violent crimes. 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You also have the White House, who 649 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: was asked about part of this, and I want to 650 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: play that for everybody. 651 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: Take a listen. 652 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 5: If a member of Congress is not safe on the 653 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 5: streets of the nation's capital, who is. 654 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 6: Look, we're grateful and relieved that the congressman is unharmed. 655 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 6: We understand what communities are going through across the country, 656 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 6: not just in DC. That's why the President took action 657 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 6: very early on in his administration to get the American 658 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 6: Rescue Plan done without the help of Republicans. That's why 659 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 6: every time he puts forward his budget he makes sure 660 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 6: there are billions of dollars to deal with crime. That's 661 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 6: just a fact. All you got to look is what 662 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 6: the President has been able to do this past two years. 663 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 6: There's always going to be work, more work to be done. 664 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 6: But the fact is the president has taken action. 665 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: He hasn't taken action, He's done the opposite of that. 666 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 3: She didn't have an answer to that. Holy crap. If 667 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: a Democrat congressman is getting carjacked on the streets of 668 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 3: DC at nine thirty pm. What the heck is the answer? 669 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: And she's like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going 670 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 3: to answer that. And what was her answer, Well, you know, 671 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 3: Joe Biden spending a ton of money, mind you, not 672 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 3: actually putting criminals in jail, not supporting police, not doing 673 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 3: anything to stop crime. But he's shoveling a whole lot 674 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 3: of cash at Democrat special interest groups. He's shoveling a 675 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 3: whole lot of cash at deficit spending that's causing rampant inflation. 676 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: That is her answer. It's an utter non sequitur. And 677 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: by the way, it's not just Henry quaar Angie Craig, 678 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 3: who is a Democrat Member of Congress from Minnesota, was 679 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 3: assaulted in the apartment of her DC her DC apartment 680 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: in February of this year. 681 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 4: And this is a. 682 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 3: Pattern that is happening over and over and over again. 683 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 3: Let me give you some stats. Carjackings in DC are 684 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 3: up one hundred and nine percent, robberies are up sixty 685 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 3: eight percent, theft is up twenty two percent, homicides are 686 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 3: up thirty eight percent, and the city is on pace 687 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 3: for the deadliest year in two decades. Not only that 688 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 3: nine of the top ten cities with the highest homicide 689 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 3: rights are run by Democrats, Twenty seven of the top 690 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 3: thirty cities with the highest murder rates are run by Democrats. 691 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 3: This is a pattern, and you're saying Kareem John Pierre 692 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 3: and the Biden White House utterly dodging responsibilities for their 693 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 3: soft on crime policies that are endangering people all across 694 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 3: the country. 695 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: Want to ask question for you, will Democrats move on 696 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: this because even the White House presbytery was asked a 697 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 2: question of follow up where she could have kind of 698 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 2: gotten a redo. 699 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: I got to play it. It's too good, not too If. 700 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 5: President Biden's policies are helping bring crime down, would he 701 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 5: be comfortable with somebody borrowing his corvette and parking it 702 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 5: on the street overnight in Southeast DC. 703 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna get into hypotheticals. I'm just gonna get 704 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 6: into the facts about what this president has done. In 705 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 6: this president, I mean, she's still screwed it up. 706 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 3: Look, of course, not nobody. Would you park your corvette 707 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 3: on the street. It's gonna get robbed, it's gonna get 708 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 3: broken into, it's gonna get keyed, It's gonna get vandalized. 709 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 3: She can't answer that question, and so you know what 710 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 3: she's counting on. Look, that was a question from Fox News, 711 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 3: so Fox will cover it. Ben, you worked for years 712 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 3: at CNN. Did CNN cover that exchange? 713 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: Hell? 714 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 3: No, MSNBC, no, ABC, NBCCBS, Nope. 715 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 4: They know that. 716 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 3: The corporate media, they are the puppets for the administration. 717 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: They are the propagandas for the administration, they will repeat 718 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 3: the regime line. And so look, any sane person would 719 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 3: say no to the question, would you be happy with 720 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: your your your classic corvette parked on the streets of DC? 721 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 4: Of course not. 722 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: Because crime is out of control and the problem is Look, 723 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 3: let me underscore that again. When the DC City Council 724 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 3: looked at skyrocketing crime rates and said, you know what, 725 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 3: the answer here is, let's lower the penalties on violent crime. 726 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 3: That's the best solution. We've got too many murderers, too 727 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 3: many murders, too many carjackings. Let's send people to jail 728 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 3: for shorter times for murder and carjacking. That's a great idea. 729 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 3: In Congress, thankfully we overturn that. Why do you think 730 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 3: crime is out of control? 731 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a democratic party, and this is certainly going 732 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: to be an issue with the president sho election. 733 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 3: Dark Ben, Ben, hold on, Before we wrap up, I 734 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 3: want to ask you a final question. 735 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm ready. 736 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: If you're standing by a doorway and you see a 737 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 3: little red box that is three inches by four inches 738 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 3: and it says the word fire on it, and it 739 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 3: says pull this for the fire alarm, my question to 740 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 3: you is is that a doorknob? 741 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: That is not a doorknob and that is not a 742 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 2: way to exit the building. 743 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 4: But how do you know? How do you know? Ben? Seriously? 744 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's not like. 745 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 2: That insurrectionism one oh one, right, Like, don't you immediately 746 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 2: lock that person up forever? 747 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this. It's not like you 748 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 3: were a high school principal. It's not like you were 749 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 3: a high school principal in a high school that had 750 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 3: fire alarms. It's not like you were a high school 751 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 3: principal in a high school that had fire alarms that 752 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 3: had a policy that said, if you, a student pulls 753 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 3: the fire alarm, you will be expelled. Jamal Bowman, the 754 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 3: Democrat congressman, was a principal at a high school that 755 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 3: had a policy that if you Ben Ferguson, a student 756 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,919 Speaker 3: in his high school pulled the fire alarm, you would 757 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 3: be expelled. 758 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 4: And yet what did Jamal Bowman do? 759 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going to pull the fire alarm because I 760 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 3: want to stop the Republican vote. 761 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 4: And why is it? His claim? 762 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 3: If you believe him, his defense is I'm dumber than 763 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 3: a box of rocks, and I think a fire alarm 764 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 3: is a doorknob. That is his defense, and that's the 765 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 3: best interpretation he can hope for. 766 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: By the way, I have to ask now, because you 767 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 2: brought it up, if a Republican would have done that, 768 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: how fast would they have been kicked out of Congress? 769 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: And would they have a mug shot at this point? 770 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't think they'd be kicked out 771 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 3: of Congress, but I think they might have a mug shot. 772 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 4: And my guess is. 773 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 3: Look, kicking people out of Congress is pretty severe. My 774 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 3: guess is the votes won't be there for that. My 775 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 3: prediction is they will censure him. I think the votes 776 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 3: will be there for censuring him. But it is a 777 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: criminal offense in the District of Columbia to pull a 778 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,479 Speaker 3: fire alarm fraudulently, and he is on video doing that, 779 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 3: but he is counting on the corporate media to ignore 780 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 3: the fact that he was willing to pull a fire 781 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 3: alarm to try to stop the Congress from voting on 782 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 3: a provision that he didn't like, which, mind you, was 783 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 3: a provision to fund the government, and he wanted to 784 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 3: force a government shut down, so he pulled a fire 785 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 3: alarm to cause it to happen. But again, he knew 786 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 3: the corporate media would cover for him, and they're doing 787 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:55,959 Speaker 3: it right now. 788 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 2: Don't forget. We do this podcast three days a week, Monday, 789 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 2: Wednesday and Fry. Make sure you hit that follow button 790 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 2: if you're listening on Apple so you get every episode, 791 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 2: or hit that subscriber auto download button depending on what 792 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 2: platform you're listening on. We also do our weekend review 793 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: on Saturdays for what you may have missed during the week, 794 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 2: so you'll get that bonus pod as well. 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