Speaker 1: Look, hell, it's only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a recyclable bottle, and I love film. As
Speaker 1: Victor Hugo once famously said, music expresses that which cannot
Speaker 1: be put into words and that which cannot remain silent,
Speaker 1: and works even better alongside moving images, preferably with the
Speaker 1: narrative and serious character arts and whatnot. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: Every week I invite a special guests over. I tell
Speaker 1: them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their
Speaker 1: life through the films that meant the most of them.
Speaker 1: Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Sharon Stone, and even Brett Lambles.
Speaker 1: But this week it's the brilliant and incredible comedian. It's
Speaker 1: Taylor Tomlinson. The first three episodes of Shrinking, the show
Speaker 1: co created by myself and Bill Lawrence and Jason Siegel,
Speaker 1: are available to on Apple TV Plus. Give it a
Speaker 1: go you will almost certainly definitely love it. Head over
Speaker 1: to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein,
Speaker 1: where you get an extra twenty minutes of chat with Taylor.
Speaker 1: We laugh a lot, we talk secrets, we talk beginnings
Speaker 1: and endings. You get the whole episode uncut, you get
Speaker 1: it AD free, and you get it as a video.
Speaker 1: Check it out over at patreon dot com Forward slash
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein. Taylor Thomlinson is an exceptional stand up. You
Speaker 1: can see her two specials on Netflix. They're amazing, or
Speaker 1: you can go and see her new stuff on tour.
Speaker 1: If you're in London, she is doing some shows there soon,
Speaker 1: I think for the first time, so definitely go and
Speaker 1: see as she will blow your mind. I'd met her
Speaker 1: a couple of times at gigs before this, and I
Speaker 1: was very excited to get her on the podcast. She
Speaker 1: is a real delight. We recorded this on Zoom the
Speaker 1: other day and I really think you're gonna love it.
Speaker 1: So that is it for now. I very much hope
Speaker 1: you enjoy episode two hundred and thirty three of Films
Speaker 1: to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to
Speaker 1: be Buried With. It is me Brett Gostein, and I'm
Speaker 1: enjoined today by an actor, a writer, a producer, a TikToker,
Speaker 1: a buddy rocker, a last comic standinger, a Netflix superstar
Speaker 1: and genuinely one of the greatest stand ups that we
Speaker 1: have working today. She's an absolute mind blower. I cannot
Speaker 1: believe we've got her on the show. Can you believe it?
Speaker 1: I can't. Is she here? She is? Well, she speaks,
Speaker 1: so you better believe it. Kid, here we go. It's
Speaker 1: only she's here, it is Taylor Tablin said, I was
Speaker 1: drying so hard not to laugh over here. You're very expensive, Oh,
Speaker 1: dishonest and troll? How are you? What is fabulous treats?
Speaker 1: What a treat? I'm great? How are you good? Is
Speaker 1: he good to see you? We met very briefly at
Speaker 1: the improv once are your favorite? Get the improv? I thought,
Speaker 1: I meant you are at Largo? Oh yeah, we did Largo,
Speaker 1: and then we did improv with you. And did we
Speaker 1: do the imp Yeah? Yeah we did. Okay, and you
Speaker 1: are astonishing comedian. I think your last Netflix special is incredible,
Speaker 1: and I also think you do the thing that puts
Speaker 1: you in the top ten category. That is really funny,
Speaker 1: definitely funny, excellent funny, but also such a worker as
Speaker 1: in jokes on jokes on jokes on jokes. Every line
Speaker 1: has forty jokes, did it? You're fucking good at it.
Speaker 1: You're very very good. Oh, thanks nice. And I was
Speaker 1: thinking about it because I remember I wondered if you
Speaker 1: felt this or feel this like you started young and
Speaker 1: you had your first special at twenty five, and I
Speaker 1: know comics and I know people, and I know that
Speaker 1: that is that puts you in a position of like,
Speaker 1: who's this fucking kid? How darehy? Which is why I
Speaker 1: always I wondered if like your sort of work ethic
Speaker 1: came just naturally that's how you always are, or if
Speaker 1: it was like I really need to prove myself because
Speaker 1: people are going to be like, who's this fucking child
Speaker 1: having a guy? You know what I mean? No, Oh,
Speaker 1: it absolutely comes from that. That's my inner dialogue is
Speaker 1: who's this fucking kid all the time, because yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: I was sixteen when I started, and so for years
Speaker 1: and I'm sure, look, I think anybody who's successful in
Speaker 1: this business knows that there are a lot of reasons
Speaker 1: why people get opportunities, and like, I'm sure me being
Speaker 1: younger helped me get certain opportunities, and so you just
Speaker 1: try to work hard and be worthy of them when
Speaker 1: you get them. But oh my god. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: so scared that everyone was going to be like this
Speaker 1: sucks and she's got it because she's a child and
Speaker 1: this was a fluke and we're never going to let
Speaker 1: her do anything again. So I was really glad when
Speaker 1: they gave me another one, and I felt like this
Speaker 1: one was like, Okay, let's like prove it that we're
Speaker 1: actually like one of the guys, one of the comedians.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're beyond Do you think when you get oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: just stuck coasting, because you'll be like, yeah, I'm out
Speaker 1: now I have to talk to I desert to me.
Speaker 1: I certainly hope. So, I mean it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1: I would have thought that I could coast. Back when
Speaker 1: I was younger. I thought, once I have a Netflix special,
Speaker 1: I'll coast. And then I got a Netflix special and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I can't coast because that might
Speaker 1: have been a fluke. Then I got the second one
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, now I can coast, And
Speaker 1: now I'm like no, it's it's never been harder to coast.
Speaker 1: I feel like you have to be doing everything now
Speaker 1: you can never coast, Like, like, especially with social media
Speaker 1: being what it is. Like, I have a social media
Speaker 1: manager who's you know, she's twenty four, and she's amazing
Speaker 1: and great, and she's always telling me to post every day,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I think I'm like one of the
Speaker 1: people who's doing a good job at this, and I
Speaker 1: feel like I don't do enough, Like I'm writing jokes
Speaker 1: that are just for the internet, and then I have
Speaker 1: my hour and then I have, you know, sort of
Speaker 1: like the next hour started before we film that one,
Speaker 1: so we have a jumping off point. Like you just
Speaker 1: have to pro do so much material and so much
Speaker 1: content now in a way that you've just never had
Speaker 1: to before. That's made me really depressed. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm coasting good time out here. My
Speaker 1: question to you is I didn't see it at the time,
Speaker 1: and I'm interested. I'm always interested in everyone on this.
Speaker 1: Like when you do standup, do you get nervous? I mean,
Speaker 1: you do it all the time, But do you get
Speaker 1: nervous before a gig? Or is it easy stepping on
Speaker 1: stage every day? I think it depends what it is
Speaker 1: and where it is. I mean, I don't get nervous
Speaker 1: most of the time anymore. When I was younger, I
Speaker 1: had really bad stage fright. I would get like nauseous
Speaker 1: for a week. It was really tough when I was younger,
Speaker 1: but especially now, like having an audience, It is so
Speaker 1: nice to walk out on stage for people who paid
Speaker 1: to specifically see you, Like, you know, it's so different
Speaker 1: than going out and winning over people who are just
Speaker 1: there for a comedy or for someone else. Like, It's
Speaker 1: much much easier in terms of nerves. So I don't
Speaker 1: get nervous so much anymore. I'll get nervous for weird things,
Speaker 1: like if it's a show I've been nervous about, it's
Speaker 1: usually because like you know, my manager and agents came
Speaker 1: to see the New Hour, or I have a friend
Speaker 1: there you know that doesn't see me perform very much,
Speaker 1: or that's awful in it. Yeah, I get more nervous
Speaker 1: performing in town. I get more nervous going to like
Speaker 1: the comedy store or the comedy seller because of just god,
Speaker 1: I hope everyone here thinks I'm good and funny. Like
Speaker 1: on the road, you don't really get nervous, feel like,
Speaker 1: I mean, if this is bad, because I'm going to
Speaker 1: see it, I'm gonna know. Except for these twelve hundred people. Sorry, sorry, guys.
Speaker 1: What about your last special, which is truly fucking brilliant.
Speaker 1: It was all about I believe the entire out was
Speaker 1: about mental house. Basically a lot of it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not the whole thing, but a lot of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a theme, and it's really really good. It's you know,
Speaker 1: wise and really funny. And I wondered if that was
Speaker 1: an early choice, like I'm going to do an hour
Speaker 1: about this I wanted to talk about this stuff, or
Speaker 1: whether that just came from I got less of stuff
Speaker 1: that seems to be on this theme and then became
Speaker 1: an hour. Yeah. No, it wasn't a plan at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think for my first special, Quarter Life Crisis,
Speaker 1: that was very much like I took more serious jokes
Speaker 1: out and saved them because I wanted that hour to
Speaker 1: just be about being in your twenties and be sort
Speaker 1: of thematically consistent. And then the second hour sort of
Speaker 1: just evolved until it became like the first half is
Speaker 1: about mental health and grief. I think, or maybe even
Speaker 1: forty minutes of it is because I knew I wanted
Speaker 1: to do jokes about losing my mom as a kid,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know how much of it was going
Speaker 1: to be in the hour. I think it just expanded
Speaker 1: until it was more than I expected it to be.
Speaker 1: And then I got diagnosed with bipolar two months before
Speaker 1: we filmed it, and initially yeah, it's yeah. So initially
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not gonna talk about this on
Speaker 1: stage at all. And then I was, you know, working
Speaker 1: on the Hour, and I think I try to joke
Speaker 1: about it maybe like Kentucky. I was just like, ah,
Speaker 1: this is just a new one, let me see. And
Speaker 1: it did really well, and I just tend to write
Speaker 1: about stuff that's happening to me. So it just sort
Speaker 1: of happened and it moved up in the hour, and
Speaker 1: by the time we were filming it, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is like four minutes in, we're getting into this.
Speaker 1: It was very I mean, both both specials I've done,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure this one will be the same way.
Speaker 1: Sort of the like five months before it came out,
Speaker 1: something big happened in my life that sort of changed
Speaker 1: the entire direction of the hour, like changed a big
Speaker 1: portion of it in a big way, which is I
Speaker 1: think the really cool thing about stand up is you
Speaker 1: just never know what life's gonna throwout you if you
Speaker 1: are a very personal comedian, like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you feel like this. I feel like you're pretty personal, right,
Speaker 1: You're not like topical and observational so much as you're personal. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty personal. I was going to ask you, but
Speaker 1: then I thought, actually, maybe you can't answered this because
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. But is there anything that you won't
Speaker 1: talk about those states? I'm guessing you're not gonna tell
Speaker 1: me what that would be because you don't talk about
Speaker 1: it in a podcast. But or are you in theory
Speaker 1: I've been to talking about anything. You know? That's interesting
Speaker 1: because lately I've been less willing to talk about certain things.
Speaker 1: I think when I was younger, I was like, I
Speaker 1: will write jokes about anything, and over the years I've
Speaker 1: gotten better, and luckily I got better at this. Before
Speaker 1: I was doing specials about like if I write jokes
Speaker 1: about you know, an X or something, I will disguise
Speaker 1: it so you can't tell or figure out who it is,
Speaker 1: or it's not too personal or two pointed. I always say,
Speaker 1: like I dated someone years ago, like it's it's never
Speaker 1: like I just went through a breakup, Like I try
Speaker 1: to be sensitive about that. I mean, before the last
Speaker 1: special came out, I sent my aunt all the jokes
Speaker 1: about losing my mom, which you know, none of the
Speaker 1: jokes were about my mother specifically, but I didn't want
Speaker 1: her to see it and feel like I was being
Speaker 1: disrespectful or poking fun at you know, the greatest tragedy
Speaker 1: of her life, as well as mine, because I just
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think. I don't think a joke
Speaker 1: is worth your relationships, Like, I just don't think it is, yea.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's certain things now that I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe we don't have to get into that,
Speaker 1: or I've learned to wait on certain things and go,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just see how we feel about
Speaker 1: this in six months and then hopefully talk about it
Speaker 1: from a more balanced, mature perspective. Because when you first
Speaker 1: write jokes about a breakup or a difficult parental relationship
Speaker 1: or what have you, it comes out much harsher I
Speaker 1: think than yes, because you're coming from such a hurt place.
Speaker 1: I mean, have you found that I don't know how?
Speaker 1: Like same question, do you I guess whatever? Thing that
Speaker 1: My first two stand up shows were incredibly personal, but
Speaker 1: they were also about things that were quite a long
Speaker 1: time ago, so I'd left enough time that it felt
Speaker 1: like a I can make proper jokes about this without
Speaker 1: it being too sad or too dark, but also the
Speaker 1: people involved and now far enough away from it, as
Speaker 1: in I'm disguising everyone. But still, you know, I always
Speaker 1: remember going I won't name these people. I hope this
Speaker 1: is okay. I went to the Edinburgh Festival, which I
Speaker 1: went to a lot, and there were two I always
Speaker 1: think about this. There were two shows. They were two
Speaker 1: basically dead mum shows. There were a show a guy
Speaker 1: talking about his mum and dad and the guy talking
Speaker 1: about his mom was like both shows, and one of
Speaker 1: them was quite recent, and one of them was long ago.
Speaker 1: And the one that was long ago was a great show.
Speaker 1: It was very moving and it was very funny and
Speaker 1: it was great and I felt as an audience watching it,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is really good because he's doing
Speaker 1: all this quite deep, difficult stuff, but I feel safe
Speaker 1: here because I can tell he's okay. Ultimately he's okay.
Speaker 1: And the other guy it was too raw, and I guess,
Speaker 1: you know, you could argue, well, that's interesting. It was interesting,
Speaker 1: but I felt in danger as an audience. I felt
Speaker 1: worried for him. I sort of wanted to go, are
Speaker 1: you okay? Like I kept, I almost wanted to like, heckle,
Speaker 1: are you okay? Because it didn't feel I always I
Speaker 1: felt like, you're not ready to talk about this. I
Speaker 1: get that you're doing it, but you haven't processed any
Speaker 1: of this enough to make a good comedy show. What
Speaker 1: you what we're doing here is feels unsafe, feels like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm worried about I'm really worried about you. So I'm
Speaker 1: not sure this is a good show, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, but there's also you know, you always
Speaker 1: hear that Tignatario set where she's just found out she's
Speaker 1: got CONC is an amazing set and that's immediate, you know,
Speaker 1: like I guess depends, it depends. Yeah, yeah, it depends
Speaker 1: if you're a genius or not. Helps if you're a
Speaker 1: genius like Tik Nataro. Yeah, no, I think that's one
Speaker 1: hundred percent true. I again, not to harp on my
Speaker 1: Dead Mom material, but the Dead Mom jokes and look
Speaker 1: at you like a few of them I had tried
Speaker 1: to do when I was, you know, twenty one, twenty two,
Speaker 1: and I just hadn't gone to enough therapy and I
Speaker 1: hadn't worked through enough of it, and I really did
Speaker 1: think I was fine, and I would get frustrated with audiences.
Speaker 1: And also part of it is like I was just
Speaker 1: too young, like nobody believed I was okay. I wasn't
Speaker 1: okay with anything. I was like a mess, And even
Speaker 1: now I try to be respectful of that when I'm
Speaker 1: working on material. If I feel like like there was
Speaker 1: some material I was doing about a difficult relationship in
Speaker 1: my family that still is very painful for me, and
Speaker 1: I had turned it into material, and some nights that
Speaker 1: felt like justice, and then other nights it felt like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, why did I even bring this up
Speaker 1: right now? Like not because it wouldn't go well. It
Speaker 1: was all working, but it was a lot for me
Speaker 1: to act like I was okay when I'm just not yet.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you can talk about this later, like
Speaker 1: these are ever green jokes that you can do in
Speaker 1: a year or two or never, Like it's also okay
Speaker 1: to just never do certain jokes. But right now, you are,
Speaker 1: as you said, too raw, and I think you just
Speaker 1: have to as you mature as a performer. I think
Speaker 1: you get better at recognizing that about yourself, and in
Speaker 1: the same way you like learn to live with anxiety
Speaker 1: and depression. You just go, oh, I wish I didn't
Speaker 1: feel that way right now, but I do. So we're
Speaker 1: going to be gentle and wait until we don't feel away.
Speaker 1: There's the thing my first stand up show, which was
Speaker 1: about a period of my life that stuff happened, and
Speaker 1: I remember I always think about the fact that, in
Speaker 1: my early preview of it, I did the album maybe
Speaker 1: for the third time, and afterwards a woman from the
Speaker 1: audience came up to me and just hugged me and said,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that happened to you. And I really thought, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, that was going to be a comedy shot,
Speaker 1: and it was a real lesson in like, oh, I've
Speaker 1: sold this completely wrong, stuilities. They feel I have to
Speaker 1: twiddle this to make it much more safe to laugh about,
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, Like she just thought
Speaker 1: it was a dramatic monologue about a terrible incident, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want I'm sorry that happened. You want thank
Speaker 1: you for talking to about that. It made me feel better.
Speaker 1: That's what you want. You want, Thank you not I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's a terrible reaction audience with the stuff
Speaker 1: you've done. It's like the difficult stuff your mum and
Speaker 1: the and the bipolar thing. Do you feel because I'm
Speaker 1: also curious about the I hear both sides of this.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's therapeutic, like it's helpful to
Speaker 1: you that you that you talk about this, that you
Speaker 1: process it through comedy or do you ever think that
Speaker 1: by talking about it so much and doing it as
Speaker 1: stand up it makes it worse because you're reembedding it,
Speaker 1: re embedding it every time it's coming up. Honestly, that's
Speaker 1: a great question, because there were points on the last tour,
Speaker 1: as I was gearing up to film Look at You
Speaker 1: the second special, where I was like, I cannot do
Speaker 1: this material anymore. Not because I wasn't proud of it.
Speaker 1: I really loved that material and I was really proud
Speaker 1: of it, but it was emotionally very draining to do
Speaker 1: every night, and I was doing it twice a night
Speaker 1: a lot of nights, and then you know, meeting people
Speaker 1: after shows that were bringing up their mental health struggles
Speaker 1: and their experiences with losing family members, and it was
Speaker 1: just really heavy It was just really heavy to sort
Speaker 1: of brace myself every night to get into that material
Speaker 1: and like we're talking about make the audience feel comfortable
Speaker 1: with it, because when I was like when I was younger,
Speaker 1: when I was like a teenager and I was going
Speaker 1: on stage, people were nervous for me because I was
Speaker 1: so young, Like people were scared for me because I
Speaker 1: was so young. So I had to learn how to
Speaker 1: They're already nervous, so I had to learn how to
Speaker 1: make them feel comfortable just by like carrying myself a
Speaker 1: certain way. And I felt that way with that last
Speaker 1: hour of material too, is I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: have to really I had to really hit the mark,
Speaker 1: Like I have to really stick the landing on this
Speaker 1: stuff so that people aren't aren't uncomfortable. And it was
Speaker 1: just a lot. It was a lot more taxing than
Speaker 1: like my current hour of material, save for that like
Speaker 1: six minute chunk that I just took out really recently,
Speaker 1: just like this month, maybe last month, but the first
Speaker 1: couple months of the tour and over the summer, I
Speaker 1: was doing that material and it was sort of towards
Speaker 1: the end, and I thought it was interesting and it
Speaker 1: was like a little darker and sadder. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just not I just don't want to dread this
Speaker 1: part of the show every night. I want like a break,
Speaker 1: Like I just want to do an hour that's lighter
Speaker 1: and easier and still very personal. I think, and is
Speaker 1: vulnerable and is about certain fears I have right now,
Speaker 1: but it is it is a lot a lot lighter,
Speaker 1: and that is on purpose. Yeah. Great, that's that sounds good. Tricky,
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's tricky because it's the good stuff, always
Speaker 1: the stuff. The stuff you dread is always the best stuff.
Speaker 1: I know, it always does. It's a real an. It's
Speaker 1: really annoying. Yeah. The other thing that I think is
Speaker 1: very nice about you, it seems, is that Dustin Nicholson
Speaker 1: here is a very lovely, very funny comedian. Seems you
Speaker 1: always have him as you open it and you travel
Speaker 1: with him? Is that true? Instagram? True? And and have
Speaker 1: you nine him forever? I just loved it. You're always
Speaker 1: with your friend and these things that seems like a
Speaker 1: lovely relationship. Yes, it's made a huge difference. I met
Speaker 1: Dustin like ten years ago, which is funny because he
Speaker 1: was we were both a few years into stand up.
Speaker 1: But I was you know, I was in college. I
Speaker 1: was like nineteen, and he was my age now because
Speaker 1: he's about ten years older than me, and he had like,
Speaker 1: you know, three kids under ten and he was married,
Speaker 1: and I was like a child. Like we're very different places,
Speaker 1: and we weren't like friends right away, but we were
Speaker 1: doing stand up at the same time in San Diego,
Speaker 1: and over the years, you know, I started in churches,
Speaker 1: he was doing some churches as well, and he was
Speaker 1: just one of the only people I knew who was
Speaker 1: like doing every type of gig the same way I was.
Speaker 1: Where like we were both doing clubs, colleges, churches, corporate events,
Speaker 1: like we were both doing everything, and again we were
Speaker 1: both in San Diego and just kind of naturally over
Speaker 1: the years. I think a big turning point was probably
Speaker 1: when I was I think I was twenty three at
Speaker 1: the time, twenty two or twenty three, and I got
Speaker 1: fired from opening for a church comedian. And after they
Speaker 1: called me to fire me, they took me off a
Speaker 1: bunch of tour dates as the opener, and they called
Speaker 1: dustin immediately after and gave him all of the work
Speaker 1: that I'd gotten fired from because I had tweeted a
Speaker 1: joke with innuendo in it disgusting. I know it was rough,
Speaker 1: but it was it was good because it was like
Speaker 1: the last sort of churchy gig that I was still doing.
Speaker 1: And then after that I got to be like I'm
Speaker 1: never doing these again. Like we're just a hard hard
Speaker 1: stop on these. But like, I don't think Dustin. I
Speaker 1: really became close friends and told maybe like four years ago,
Speaker 1: and yeah, he's just like he's the best. He's like
Speaker 1: him and his wife Melissa are just like great, great people,
Speaker 1: and like he's really like my big brother. I have
Speaker 1: younger siblings, but I've been the oldest, and he's really
Speaker 1: like honest with me and looks out for me and
Speaker 1: has given me a lot of shit, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just a really good example of like a really
Speaker 1: good human being. Yeah, in a great relationship and a
Speaker 1: really good parent. And it's good for me to be
Speaker 1: with a friend on the road, but it's also good
Speaker 1: for me to be with a good person all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Fuck, I've forgotten to tell you, Sonny Ship.
Speaker 1: I should have told you this up too, before we
Speaker 1: got into this. I feel I would have mess. I
Speaker 1: really should have said this to you you deserved. I
Speaker 1: should have said it earlier. I'll just I'll just say
Speaker 1: you've died. You're dead. Oh my god, I forgot you're dead.
Speaker 1: It's right, you know, it's embarrassing. I choked on a supplement.
Speaker 1: I actually choked a supplement, which is, you know, the iron,
Speaker 1: taking something to live longer. But no, I was. I
Speaker 1: was in a hurry and I took you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you throw a few back. Because it was fish oil
Speaker 1: and magnesium. It was too big, guys, and I thought
Speaker 1: I could do it, and I just I flew too
Speaker 1: close to the sun. And always it's too big. You
Speaker 1: got to really focus, you got to breathe through one
Speaker 1: fish oil. And so the fact that I tried to
Speaker 1: double up is I have no one to blame but
Speaker 1: myself and h Luckily I'm making enough money on the
Speaker 1: road that they found me in my apartment within twenty
Speaker 1: four hours because my agents were like, why isn't she
Speaker 1: answering our email? Um, otherwise it might have been a week.
Speaker 1: Who knows, But you're right, it's like, why is she working? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's correct. Everyone else would been she's depressed. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: old were you when you died? I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I was thirty five, I was in my prime. I
Speaker 1: was at my peak. You just about to start coasting
Speaker 1: as well. I was just about to start posting. It's true.
Speaker 1: And you know, my entire team was really was really
Speaker 1: torn because on the one hand, you know, you can't
Speaker 1: make money going forward for them. But she left. At
Speaker 1: the time of that game, My my specials went crazy.
Speaker 1: Everything got so popular once I was dead. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: best thing that ever happened. They're they're at the funeral,
Speaker 1: like mopping their tears and quietly looking down at their
Speaker 1: fine still number one ding ding ding, yeah, d d
Speaker 1: d tragic. Netflix put it under dead Pan Comedies put
Speaker 1: do you worry about death? Tell me I do. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think about death all the time. Do you think
Speaker 1: about death a lot? I mean, podcast, I would assume
Speaker 1: I do you think about it? Yeah? Do you think
Speaker 1: about it in a negative context? I think, I get
Speaker 1: really scared of death, But then I go, I'm just
Speaker 1: as scared of life as I am of death. And
Speaker 1: then sometimes I get so scared of dying that I
Speaker 1: get exhausted, and I go, am I just gonna be
Speaker 1: scared of dying the whole time. Let's just do it right, now, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is exhausted. Yeah, man, Yeah, what do
Speaker 1: you think happens when you die? I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I think that if anything does happen, we're not going
Speaker 1: to figure it out. I'm certainly not. I didn't finish college.
Speaker 1: You know, I have no idea that's going on after
Speaker 1: all that you stand of this on my job? Do
Speaker 1: we have a scientist working on that? I just we're
Speaker 1: never going to. I mean, I I would love it
Speaker 1: if there's something else, that would be great. I think
Speaker 1: reincarnation sounds very beautiful. I mean, I would love it
Speaker 1: if there's something else. I think there's just as likely.
Speaker 1: It's just as likely that there's something else as that
Speaker 1: there's nothing. I really don't Yeah, I don't have like
Speaker 1: strong opinions about I grew up so religious that like certainty,
Speaker 1: any sort of certainty around an afterlife or lack thereof,
Speaker 1: is like repulsive to me. I'm like, you don't know,
Speaker 1: none of us know. Was that an incident? Was it
Speaker 1: a general thing or was there a specific thing that
Speaker 1: made you go I'm not into religion anymore. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it was very gradual, because when you grow
Speaker 1: up in it and your whole family is very much
Speaker 1: a part of it. Like it's really hard to take
Speaker 1: yourself out of it because everyone around you is in it.
Speaker 1: So you feel like there's something wrong with you if
Speaker 1: you can't buy into it or feel the things you're
Speaker 1: supposed to feel. But like, honestly, when my mom died,
Speaker 1: I was eight, and everyone was like, we'll see her again,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't feel that way. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's true. And that was sort of the
Speaker 1: first instance of me going I don't think I feel
Speaker 1: how I'm supposed to feel that everybody's talking about and
Speaker 1: I don't feel like And I went in and out
Speaker 1: of this over the years of like feeling like God
Speaker 1: was there for me or talking to me or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then feeling like I don't feel anything. And I
Speaker 1: think once I got to I actually think once I
Speaker 1: started doing stand up and I started hanging out with
Speaker 1: a lot of different people and not just like my
Speaker 1: suburban Christian town, it really opened my eyes to the
Speaker 1: fact that there are plenty of people who never even
Speaker 1: think about religion. They don't think about God, they don't
Speaker 1: like it doesn't just eat away at them. And I
Speaker 1: was always taught in church, that everybody has this little
Speaker 1: like voice in their head that they're just ignoring, and
Speaker 1: that's God and that's faith, and you either listen to
Speaker 1: me don't. And then I got older and I was like,
Speaker 1: there's plenty people who don't have that at all, and
Speaker 1: it's because it wasn't you know, like ingrained in them.
Speaker 1: Question which I'm sure you took about many times, but
Speaker 1: it is interesting that he was so young when you
Speaker 1: did this. If you could briefly, why did you start
Speaker 1: stand up at sixteen? What made you go, I'm a
Speaker 1: stand up. I wanted to stand up to you? Do
Speaker 1: you know? Oh, it's not a cool story. Um, I
Speaker 1: took a stay. I took a stand up comedy class
Speaker 1: from a church Communitian, which was a class that my
Speaker 1: dad wanted to take. And he told me the later
Speaker 1: he like thought I would write for him. That's how
Speaker 1: it started. Yeah, that's how I started doing stand up
Speaker 1: And they tend out you were good. It turns out
Speaker 1: did your dad do it with you the course? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah he did the class with me. Yeah, he did
Speaker 1: the class with me, but he didn't do stand up
Speaker 1: for anything. How was his? Oh god, I can't bear it. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: listen up, Tyler. Good news. There's a heaven and you
Speaker 1: in it, and everyone it's very excited to see it.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, oh heaven. Yeah yeah, let's heaven. It's great.
Speaker 1: It's filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing? Macha.
Speaker 1: It is filled with matcha It is matcha up. There
Speaker 1: was a match on the wolves, let's matter on the floors,
Speaker 1: match everywhere, and there are a match of people. When
Speaker 1: they woke around, and they're very excited to meet you.
Speaker 1: They're huge fans. They love all your work. They want
Speaker 1: to talk to you about your life, but they want
Speaker 1: to talk about it through film in that weird and
Speaker 1: the first thing they ask you is, what's the first
Speaker 1: film you remember? Saying t t I think the first
Speaker 1: movie I remember seeing ever, I'm gonna say it was Aladdin,
Speaker 1: and I think I watched it like every day when
Speaker 1: I was very young. And so it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where I'm like, I don't even know if I
Speaker 1: remember seeing it or if I was just told that
Speaker 1: I watched it every day, Okay, and so maybe that
Speaker 1: was it. I remember seeing a toy story. It's just
Speaker 1: a lot of Disney, a lot of Disney movies when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. That's not bad. Yeah, did you
Speaker 1: did you think I love this? I want to be
Speaker 1: in movies? No, I really didn't. I think I did
Speaker 1: maybe in like middle school, I did for a bit.
Speaker 1: But once I started doing stand up, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. This is way better than everything else.
Speaker 1: Like I liked acting because I like being on stage.
Speaker 1: And then once I figured out that you could do
Speaker 1: stand up on stage, I was like, Oh, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: I don't have to I don't have to rely on anybody.
Speaker 1: This is this is great. But no, when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I don't even think I understood that you
Speaker 1: could be in movies until I was like whatever ten
Speaker 1: or something, and then I was like, why am I
Speaker 1: not in Harry Potter? Oh? Because I'm not British, right,
Speaker 1: That was why I got it. The first movie I
Speaker 1: remember seeing in theaters. Yeah, and I only remember because
Speaker 1: I got taken out of it is I remember being
Speaker 1: in the theater watching Hercules, and I remember being carried
Speaker 1: out because I got scared pretty immediately. Well it's kind
Speaker 1: of yeah, it's I mean that movie is about hell
Speaker 1: this Oh yeah, it like opens with hell. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm five exactly. It's very scared. That's sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the film that scaredy the mice that wasn't herculates?
Speaker 1: Do you like being scared? I hate being scared. I
Speaker 1: hate scary movies. I'm not interested in them at all.
Speaker 1: I have a I have a couple answers to this.
Speaker 1: So there is a movie called Nocturnal Animals. Have you
Speaker 1: seen this movie? Yes, I have seen this movie. It
Speaker 1: has Amy Adams and Jake Jillenhall and Aaron Taylor Johnson
Speaker 1: in it. And I don't think it's actually happening to characters.
Speaker 1: It's what's happening in the novel yet that they're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's these guys take this family on the side
Speaker 1: of the road and they take the mom and the
Speaker 1: daughter and they they kidnap them and drive off of them,
Speaker 1: and then the husband who's Jake Jillenhall like, finds their
Speaker 1: bodies later. And it fucked me up so bad because
Speaker 1: it's not like a supernatural thing. It's like a thing
Speaker 1: that could happen, like all that shit with like murder
Speaker 1: and all this, Like I just can't I can't watch
Speaker 1: stuff like that because it'll it'll suck me up. So
Speaker 1: that fucked me up. But it was a really good movie.
Speaker 1: But I saw that when it came out out in
Speaker 1: theaters by myself, and I was like, Oh, can ever
Speaker 1: watch this again? And then a friend of mine told
Speaker 1: me about Hereditary. I never saw Hereditary, but they explained
Speaker 1: the plot in great detail, and that scared the shit
Speaker 1: out of me. That's for a while, fucked me out.
Speaker 1: Hereditary really, Oh dude, I didn't even see it. I
Speaker 1: didn't even see it, and it sucked me up. It's worse.
Speaker 1: It's even worse if you see it. That is a
Speaker 1: scary film. Why do you think so many comedians? And
Speaker 1: I have lots of comedians on it in the I'd
Speaker 1: say in the far majority. Some really love horror, but
Speaker 1: most hate horror. Have you run? I hate horror? Don't
Speaker 1: want to be scared hated? Really? Yeah, so many comedians,
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I assume it's control. And but
Speaker 1: the reason I find it slightly surprising is because horror
Speaker 1: and comedy are the same thing, right right. I think
Speaker 1: the control is a great insight. I think it probably
Speaker 1: is like you have so much control as a stand
Speaker 1: up comedian, like it's it's hard to do anything else.
Speaker 1: It's hard to write screenplays and like go through all
Speaker 1: this problem like it's exot you're just like none of
Speaker 1: this has to take this all Like yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I write stuff and do it every night, right, Like
Speaker 1: we don't have to what's all this bullshit? Like we
Speaker 1: gotta go Yeah, yeah, why are we discussing, Let's just
Speaker 1: do it? Come on. So that's really interesting. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that if you like being a comedian, you like
Speaker 1: having control of your surroundings and feelings and career, and
Speaker 1: to give in to a horror movie is to feel
Speaker 1: out of control. Yeah, horrendous. Yeah, you're probably right, But
Speaker 1: also like do most people like horror movies? Like is
Speaker 1: this specific to comedians? Do you think most people do?
Speaker 1: They do? It's it's it's the only genre other than
Speaker 1: kind of big marvel films that is keeping cinema alive. Like,
Speaker 1: horror films is what people go to the cinema to
Speaker 1: say consistently, so interesting. It's one like the only sort
Speaker 1: of live budget films that crowds will go and see.
Speaker 1: Its horror films. Fascinating. Wow, that's really fascinating. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: movie Megan is like doing really well right now, and
Speaker 1: I want to go see it. Smile was huge. Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: Smile was huge. I've been asking people if Megan is
Speaker 1: super scary, if I could handle it. I think you
Speaker 1: can because I'm like, what's the I'm like, what's the
Speaker 1: what's all the fuss about? I keep hearing about this.
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of it, Like you do.
Speaker 1: You go out to the theater and see what's out
Speaker 1: most of the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love horror films,
Speaker 1: but I also realized with horror films, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like drugs with me, Like I love them until they're
Speaker 1: too hard and then it like he Readitary really fucked
Speaker 1: me up, and I think I regretted seeing it because
Speaker 1: it sort of ruined me for a week. I couldn't
Speaker 1: I was sort of genuinely scared in my own house,
Speaker 1: and I thought, why do you put yourself through this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: That's how I feel after virtually every horror movie. But
Speaker 1: I like hearing about them, so I always get people
Speaker 1: to tell me everything that happens in it. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that sounds good, but I'll never watch it. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: Well about crying, are you a crying? What's the film?
Speaker 1: I made? You cry. I've had it. I've had movies
Speaker 1: make me cry a lot. The first movie I remember
Speaker 1: crying really harden was when I was a kid was
Speaker 1: Bridge to TERRIBITHI yeah, really depressing film and to be like,
Speaker 1: you know ten and you're like a kid can drown.
Speaker 1: That's fucked up. That really if I remembered crying really
Speaker 1: hard in a theater at that one. And then god,
Speaker 1: I remember I watched Cramer Versus Kramer for the first
Speaker 1: time a few years ago and that made me cry
Speaker 1: pretty hard. And a more recently, I think the most
Speaker 1: recent example I could think of was something that made
Speaker 1: me cry hard was Soul. Soul fucked me up? Oh so, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so good. It's so good it is. That was
Speaker 1: more in a nice way. I guess. Are you comfortable crying?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm too comfortable crying? Okay? Are you are
Speaker 1: you uncomfortable? Oh yeah? Crying in front of paper after
Speaker 1: that way? Thank you? If if ted less anything, it's
Speaker 1: the voter vie. He is a terrible thing and you
Speaker 1: must always hide it, right, that's the message. That's what
Speaker 1: I got from it. Yeah, that's what I heard. Good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I did it. What about what's a film
Speaker 1: that you love people don't like it. It's not critically
Speaker 1: a claim, but you love it unconditionally, you don't care.
Speaker 1: I think I didn't know until I was an adult
Speaker 1: that this movie is considered very bad. I think it's good.
Speaker 1: Still is a hook? I fucking love Hook. Hook is
Speaker 1: fucking good, right. I think Hook's a good movie. It's
Speaker 1: a great movie. I think the first twenty minutes Hook
Speaker 1: is Summer Spielberg's best work. I love it's kill it.
Speaker 1: It's so good and has terrible reviews, and I didn't
Speaker 1: when I got to be an adult. I don't remember
Speaker 1: even why I looked it up. I think I was
Speaker 1: just gonna rewatch it with someone and we looked it
Speaker 1: up on ron Tomatoes or something, and we're like, is
Speaker 1: this considered a bad film? The worst thing about Hook?
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've said this on here before, so apologies
Speaker 1: if I have. Spielberg thinks it's bad. He's broke what
Speaker 1: he's like when he did like a career chat. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know the one film I think I sort of
Speaker 1: fucked up if I'm like, no, you didn't, No, you didn't, Stevens.
Speaker 1: It's brilliant. Oh, my god, did you see The Fableman?
Speaker 1: I did. I saw it. I saw it just a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago. So did I Did you like it?
Speaker 1: I did like it? We don't I like more? Hook?
Speaker 1: Me too? So did I. I thought The Fableman's was
Speaker 1: was very well done. I also thought it was very
Speaker 1: self indulgent. I was like, it's no Hook, it's very
Speaker 1: I thought it's very good, but it's not Hook. No.
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm not gonna watch it like I watched Hook.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm like, if he sat down
Speaker 1: and said he was ashamed of Hook, like what are you?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Like that's what needed to
Speaker 1: be about, was him reckoning with it. It needed a
Speaker 1: scene where he goes, I think Hook's not very good,
Speaker 1: and his favorman parents go, it's brilliant yourself, it's so good.
Speaker 1: I thought it was so good. I mean, the cast
Speaker 1: is so good, Like it's the fuck it's really really good.
Speaker 1: It's upsetting to me. It's so validating that you also
Speaker 1: feel that way, because I was scared you're gonna be like, no,
Speaker 1: that's a bad movie. I can't. I tried to describe
Speaker 1: the bit at the end to something I couldn't get
Speaker 1: through because I was gonna cry. I was trying to
Speaker 1: describe what his what he happened, I mean, if ever
Speaker 1: finished the sentence. But his happy thought is I can't
Speaker 1: bear it. It's too much. I ki'd I know it
Speaker 1: was you. Oh I know, jud was gonna cry and
Speaker 1: he spoils off. Oh god, it's so good. Oh god,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I would just want to bring him. I
Speaker 1: think about I think about the food fight scene all
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, and I mean, she wiz, what a movie.
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's got everything in it. I mean
Speaker 1: truly for all the generations. I was like, this movie
Speaker 1: has everything. There's something for everybody in this it's so good.
Speaker 1: Something really the build up when they got to landing
Speaker 1: in it and he's doing the speech and the awesome
Speaker 1: boys stand up and black kisses to Maggie Smith in
Speaker 1: the window because it's so creepy, and like, oh, what
Speaker 1: a movie. So you're a planet, Peter. Great film, it's
Speaker 1: so good. It's so good. Oh my god. Oh I'm
Speaker 1: so relieved. You understand completely. Okay, what is a film
Speaker 1: that you used to love but you have what's recently
Speaker 1: ain't gone? I don't like this anymore, but whatever reason
Speaker 1: that may be, okay. So when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: my parents had maybe like thirty DVDs that they just
Speaker 1: kept in their bedroom that I would usually go to
Speaker 1: if I got sick and I was home alone from school.
Speaker 1: And I remember there was one movie there that I
Speaker 1: loved when I was a kid, and I tried to
Speaker 1: rewatch it as an adult, and I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: a bad movie, but I still think it looks really
Speaker 1: fun to have made. Which now if I don't like
Speaker 1: a movie now as an adult, I go, but this
Speaker 1: was probably really fun to make. Like that always saves
Speaker 1: it for me. Is like thinking about the actors having
Speaker 1: a really fun time. There's this movie called Down with
Speaker 1: Love with renees' Elwegger and Ewan McGregor. It's like a
Speaker 1: very campy like set in the nineteen fifties, like just
Speaker 1: like it feels like a musical, but it isn't at all.
Speaker 1: There's no music in it. So Renees Elweger's character has
Speaker 1: like this like glow up and then writes this book
Speaker 1: about how you don't need to fall in love and
Speaker 1: women just need to have sex like men have sex,
Speaker 1: and it like blows up and it's this huge success.
Speaker 1: And then Ewan McGregor is this like chauvinistic men's magazine journalist,
Speaker 1: and he tricks her into falling in love with him
Speaker 1: to like write an expose proving like this author who
Speaker 1: is trying to tell women they don't need love is
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna make her fall in love with me
Speaker 1: by pretending to be somebody else. And then like the
Speaker 1: twist at the end is that she used to be
Speaker 1: his secretary before she was blond, like when she was
Speaker 1: like ugly, I guess, and he didn't know, and she
Speaker 1: like did the whole thing to like win him over
Speaker 1: and make him fall in love with her, because obviously
Speaker 1: he falls in love with her back. It's just very
Speaker 1: I think Sarah Paulson's in it, David Hyde, Piers. It's
Speaker 1: like when I was a kid, I like loved it,
Speaker 1: and I tried to watch this adult. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is not a good movie, but it's it's like fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not good. I was like, this really doesn't sounds
Speaker 1: So it's like I had to leave a guy in
Speaker 1: ten days. Yeah, it's kind of like that, but in
Speaker 1: like the nineteen fifties, right, I think i'd love it. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you might love it. You just kind of have to
Speaker 1: like buy into it. Yeah, but it's like cheesy and silly,
Speaker 1: like it has a spot in my heart of course.
Speaker 1: But if I as an adult, I would probably be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe not. But as a kid, I really really liked
Speaker 1: it a lot, and I would watch it whenever I
Speaker 1: get sick. That's a great shout. And it's never come
Speaker 1: up with it. That's a big shot. Ten points for that.
Speaker 1: I've never I've never met anybody who's ever seen it.
Speaker 1: What is the film that means the mice to you?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily the film itself is any good, but the
Speaker 1: experience you had around seeing the film would always make
Speaker 1: it important to you. Well, the last Harry Potter movie
Speaker 1: came out when I was a senior in high school,
Speaker 1: and so we all went to go see like the
Speaker 1: midnight premiere of it. When I was a kid, I
Speaker 1: read like the first few books and they were really
Speaker 1: important to me. And then my dad decided that they
Speaker 1: were satanic and that I couldn't read them, and I
Speaker 1: somehow convinced him, you know, years later, to let me
Speaker 1: go see the last movie with all my friends because
Speaker 1: it was like a senior thing. Like it was like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's just a memory. I don't even care
Speaker 1: about Harry Potter anymore. So it was like a very
Speaker 1: triumphant trip. And obviously like waiting for six hours in
Speaker 1: line with all my friends from high was very fun.
Speaker 1: And like, you know, midnight premieres of movies, like, but yeah,
Speaker 1: besides Marvel, Like that's not like a thing anyway. Do
Speaker 1: people still go to midnight premieres of Marvel movies? Yeah? Probably, Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah they still do that. I mean that previous of
Speaker 1: things to happen. I hope you would screaming at the
Speaker 1: screen yo, sated as you watched. I was was going,
Speaker 1: this is so much better than the Lord. No, that
Speaker 1: was that was a big That was a big thing.
Speaker 1: And then I saw the I saw the last Lord
Speaker 1: of the Rings movie in theaters, which watching those as
Speaker 1: a kid was like really important to me. And like
Speaker 1: those those movies I remember those in like Star Wars
Speaker 1: I kind of all watched around the same time, which
Speaker 1: was like nine nine years old, and those were like
Speaker 1: the first like behind the scenes things I had watched
Speaker 1: about filmmaking, and that made me go, oh, I had
Speaker 1: no idea. This was so hard, Like I had no
Speaker 1: idea how much went into this, just how difficult it
Speaker 1: was to get the first Star Wars movie made for
Speaker 1: so many reasons, like at every step of the way.
Speaker 1: Is still something I think about all the time. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think those two. I'm trying to think of a
Speaker 1: more recent example. Otherwise all of my examples are going
Speaker 1: to be from when I was a child. Oh, I
Speaker 1: have one more. I saw La La land in theaters
Speaker 1: when I was living in LA and I really didn't
Speaker 1: like it. I really didn't like La at the time.
Speaker 1: And I went to go see it at this theater
Speaker 1: down where you slip that's now closed. It was the
Speaker 1: Landmark Theater and I saw it like ten pm by myself,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know a ton about it. I just
Speaker 1: knew it was the same guy who did Whiplash, which
Speaker 1: I had loved. And I remember I saw it like
Speaker 1: an empty theater at like ten pm, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, this is really nice, and maybe La it's
Speaker 1: not that bad. That's great. Those are mine. Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: the film you must relate to? Oh gosh, I don't
Speaker 1: know that one. I don't know that I had a
Speaker 1: great answer for that, like, what's a what's the what's yours?
Speaker 1: Can I ask yours? It against the rules? Lady Bed, Ladybird,
Speaker 1: really lady Bed, because what's Ladybed? That was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I totally relate to this, to this, to lady Bed.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. It's it's the example of use of
Speaker 1: why of why, like writing the more specific you out
Speaker 1: of the more universal, Like I am not a teenage
Speaker 1: girl who grew up where she grew up, but I
Speaker 1: fully fully related to this, to that film. I was
Speaker 1: like I get yeah, I get your great Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's so funny. Yeah, wow, that's really fun.
Speaker 1: This came out, came out a lady Bed like that's us.
Speaker 1: That was me. How did they capture me? What's inside me? Um?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I have a
Speaker 1: good I have a good answer, because I can't say
Speaker 1: Ladybird now, I mean, would love to you. I grew
Speaker 1: up like an hour outside of Sacramento. But I don't
Speaker 1: think I don't really relate to her because she's so
Speaker 1: like free spirited and herself in it. I think, like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this because it was the book and
Speaker 1: both versions of the movie. I think I really love
Speaker 1: UH and was important to me growing up was a
Speaker 1: little women because I was the oldest of four and
Speaker 1: there's always yeah, and I think, like every time you
Speaker 1: watch my brother, my brother is trance, but there's four
Speaker 1: of us all together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's four of
Speaker 1: us all together. And I'm the oldest, and so Meg probably,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I'm not you know, nobody's I
Speaker 1: don't even know. I don't even know, Like my brother's
Speaker 1: probably Joe, my other sisters probably Meg because she's the
Speaker 1: most patient. And then I think, I don't think or
Speaker 1: now maybe she's more like Beth. And then me and
Speaker 1: my youngest sister are probably fighting it out for we're
Speaker 1: probably an Amy Meg Combo, both of us, honestly, but
Speaker 1: everyone wanted to be Joe. But you know, my brother's Joe.
Speaker 1: We're being honest. Someone the manuscripts, Yeah exactly, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I wish that wasn't me, but that's probably me, bry
Speaker 1: So Patty. I think I'm Meg now. I think I've
Speaker 1: matured into a Meg. But I was probably probably an
Speaker 1: Amy when I was younger and just didn't realize. They're like,
Speaker 1: you're selfish, but I wasn't the youngest ever. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's so much more fun than like your
Speaker 1: sex in the City, Like which sex in the City
Speaker 1: character are you? Is? Which little women sister are you? Amy?
Speaker 1: That's too great? Gois? I know? Okay, Abbey, Guys, this
Speaker 1: is the reason people cheating. What's the sexiest film you've
Speaker 1: ever the same time to tell me? Said oh, this one.
Speaker 1: I didn't have an answer too. I could not get
Speaker 1: out of it. I really couldn't think of one. I
Speaker 1: can't think of like, I really can't. I think I'm
Speaker 1: a prude. I don't know your film has ever given
Speaker 1: you the horn zero? I'm sure they have, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. Does everyone just say mag Jack Mike? But
Speaker 1: even that's like it's so overtly sexual. That's I guess
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking of, is like very sexy. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I think I think all
Speaker 1: about Eve is very sexy. Actually that sounds like sort
Speaker 1: of a that's why is it all about a sexy?
Speaker 1: I just think she's really sexy. I think like her
Speaker 1: being this like older, sort of like complicated, like petty,
Speaker 1: Like I think she's got so many great lines in it,
Speaker 1: Like I remember, like watching that made me feel like
Speaker 1: maybe it's not that it's sexy, it's that it made
Speaker 1: me feel like I could grow in because I don't
Speaker 1: feel particularly sexy as a person, but I'm like, maybe
Speaker 1: I can grow into being sexy if I'm like a
Speaker 1: successful woman in show business into my forties and fifties.
Speaker 1: I like this plan for you, and then I have
Speaker 1: to ask the question and I may see men, you
Speaker 1: don't have one. But I'm furious. This is a subcategory
Speaker 1: traveling by in this worrying Why don't filmy found a
Speaker 1: rousing the unit? That's easier? I think, okay, you don't
Speaker 1: think that's easy. Oh, I think that's so much easier.
Speaker 1: Oh that's I think everyone has that. Like, but a
Speaker 1: movie that you're like, this is a sexy film, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's hard. That's a really hard one, because that feels
Speaker 1: more objective movies that you were aroused by that you
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been. I mean, where do you fucking start?
Speaker 1: That's an easy one. Again, how many people say Simba?
Speaker 1: Everyone does? Everyone say Simba? Everyone says Simba. Another really
Speaker 1: basic one is not to do too many Peter Pan movies.
Speaker 1: But the live action Peter Pan movie that came out
Speaker 1: when I was a child. A lot of women in
Speaker 1: my age bracket that was like a big one for them,
Speaker 1: and that Jack No, No, it's the one with It's
Speaker 1: the dad from God, Oh, Jason Isaacs, Yes, someone with
Speaker 1: Jason Isaacs. Yeah, and the blonde kid that everyone was
Speaker 1: obsessed with who didn't act in anything after that. And
Speaker 1: so you can't, you can't like go watch his more
Speaker 1: recent work to feel better about it. That's just a kid,
Speaker 1: and you it's I used to do I still do.
Speaker 1: I have a joke about it where I go like,
Speaker 1: I don't think children should allow should be allowed to
Speaker 1: be actors because when you're a kid, you watch these
Speaker 1: movies and they're important to your sexual awakening, and then
Speaker 1: you can't rewatch them as an adult because you just
Speaker 1: remember how horny you get, like nostalgically horny, isn't it
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh my god, I remember how I
Speaker 1: used to watch this, and now I see that this
Speaker 1: was a child. But you're like, but I was a child,
Speaker 1: and you're like, I know, but it's just I can't
Speaker 1: watch this ever again. But why is he whispering? Yeah,
Speaker 1: You're like why he whispering. There's like a scene where
Speaker 1: he's like whispering to like get her to come to Neverland,
Speaker 1: and I just remember like as a kid, we were
Speaker 1: all just like I don't know what's happening, but I'm
Speaker 1: feeling nice. Say, you've totally made up for the for
Speaker 1: the not knowing what a sexy film is. Very I
Speaker 1: think it's the easier I know, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1: I don't have any sorry anyway, what is objectively, objectively
Speaker 1: the greatest film of all time? It might not be
Speaker 1: your favorite, but subjectively the greatest objectively, I'm going to
Speaker 1: say Citizen Kane, which I'm sure a lot of people
Speaker 1: have said, really is number one on the A five
Speaker 1: top one hundred movies. And the reason I'm going to
Speaker 1: say it is because it's number one, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: very difficult to live up to, I think, and I
Speaker 1: watched it during Quarantine because we were like, well, we
Speaker 1: should watch as many movies on this list that we
Speaker 1: haven't seen now that we have all this time, and
Speaker 1: it like blew my mind how good it was. I'm
Speaker 1: like the fact that this it feels so modern. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like that's what blew me away about it. And the
Speaker 1: fact that you could watch a movie that came out
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty and go, this is this feels so
Speaker 1: relevant and modern and and impressive was like crazy to me.
Speaker 1: And that you'd watch it because it was number one
Speaker 1: on the Greatest Movies of All Time list and you
Speaker 1: would still go Okay, yeah, no, I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's legit isn't it. I've always delighted when you watch
Speaker 1: films of that and you go, oh, it's not boring.
Speaker 1: I was expecting this to be boring. I assume that's
Speaker 1: why you always said it was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fucking great that film. It really is good. Well done,
Speaker 1: well done, It's so good. Good good friend. What is
Speaker 1: the film? You could well have watched The Mice to
Speaker 1: iver and iver again. I've watched Sensensensibility, Angle's sensi Insibility
Speaker 1: that so many times. Do you, Oh, my god, fucking
Speaker 1: great film. It's so good. Yeah, that's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite movies. And I've watched it so many times since
Speaker 1: I since I was a kid, and I just think
Speaker 1: Emma Thompson did such a great job with that script,
Speaker 1: and it's like everything about it is perfect to me.
Speaker 1: It's like a comfort movie with mine. It's proper classy
Speaker 1: that film, Angley. I mean, I don't like that he
Speaker 1: keeps doing these motion smoothing films recently. I'm just making
Speaker 1: beautiful films. He keeps making these like action films with
Speaker 1: like fifty two friends a minute that look like sports footage.
Speaker 1: Pretty weird. Now what are you doing? Yeah, get back
Speaker 1: on a horse. You do good stuff. Get back on
Speaker 1: the get horses. Ya do really good horse stuff. We
Speaker 1: don't like to be negative tight I do. Wait so
Speaker 1: very quickly, what's the worst film you've ever seen? So
Speaker 1: I was trying to think about this because show business
Speaker 1: ruins you as far as being critical of movies, because
Speaker 1: you know how hard it is to get anything made, yeah, TV,
Speaker 1: but especially film, and you know how many different places
Speaker 1: it could have gone wrong. And you know that, like
Speaker 1: even terrible movies took five years to make, and a
Speaker 1: million different people weighed in. And that's why it's been
Speaker 1: the only movie that I think I've ever walked out of.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this is the worst movie I've
Speaker 1: ever seen, because I don't remember, because I didn't even
Speaker 1: finish it. There was a movie that came out I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look it up from twenty It was came out
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen and it was called Rules Don't Apply.
Speaker 1: And it was Lilly Collins and uh, it was the
Speaker 1: guy who played Han Solo in like the Solo movie
Speaker 1: that came out and he and Alden Yes and Warren
Speaker 1: Beatty and uh, I was a friend of mine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a friend of mine. We went to go
Speaker 1: see it, and we, like love going to see movies,
Speaker 1: will pretty much see anything. And I think we walked
Speaker 1: out of it because we were just like, this is
Speaker 1: not this is just not great. What the rules that play?
Speaker 1: I think he was like her driver, or he was
Speaker 1: a driver. Maybe it was like he wasn't supposed to
Speaker 1: they weren't supposed to date or something. I don't even
Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I just didn't. I just didn't like. Again,
Speaker 1: it takes a lot for me. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever walked out of a movie before. The only other
Speaker 1: movie I almost walked out of recently, which I'm so
Speaker 1: glad I didn't, but I was in a full theater.
Speaker 1: I want to go see Tar and the Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was so good, but you know, the beginning, there's
Speaker 1: all those credits and they're so long, and a bunch
Speaker 1: of us in the theater were like, did they fuck
Speaker 1: up the movie? Like it was so long? We were
Speaker 1: so dead. Well, we were just like, is it the Yeah,
Speaker 1: we missed a whole movie? What happened? Like should we
Speaker 1: go talk to someone? But then it started and it
Speaker 1: was great. Yeah, well, film, good film. You're in comedy,
Speaker 1: you're an excellent comedian. You wanted the greats? What's the
Speaker 1: film that made you laugh the most? I saw Bridesmaids
Speaker 1: in high school, and it like blew my mind, which
Speaker 1: is another one I've seen a bunch of times. It's good.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, it's so good. It's so good it I
Speaker 1: could not believe how funny it was and just how
Speaker 1: many funny women are in it, and it really like
Speaker 1: I still remember seeing that with a group of my
Speaker 1: friends and walking out of that theater like just like vibrating.
Speaker 1: I was so excited that it existed. It's fucking good.
Speaker 1: It's really really good, and we need another. I keep thinking,
Speaker 1: has there been anything since bridesmaid of that sort of
Speaker 1: scale comedy film with such a big unsoon, But I
Speaker 1: can't think of one like that. I'm sure there has been.
Speaker 1: It's probably Hey, if you think I haven't pitched stuff
Speaker 1: for years, is like, hey, I would like to make
Speaker 1: other bridesmaids. It's or something with that impact. Because people
Speaker 1: always ask you anything. On your IMDb it says untitled
Speaker 1: Tylors Tomlinson film. Does it? Yeah, see if that comes
Speaker 1: to fruition, Yeah, we're working on it. Exciting My advice
Speaker 1: probably needs a title. That would be my any advice? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, And you know it's so funny. Titles are
Speaker 1: so hard, but they're not hard for standard specials. My
Speaker 1: stand up specials have been so easy to title, and
Speaker 1: everything else is so hard to title. Tylans Tomlinson, You've
Speaker 1: been beyond a delight. However, when you were thirty five
Speaker 1: years old and you're in a bit of a rush
Speaker 1: because you're a workaholic, and you were going from touring
Speaker 1: and you thought, well, wow, i'm touring, I may as
Speaker 1: well pop into the city and do a set at improv,
Speaker 1: which you said you wouldn't do, but you're a real worker,
Speaker 1: and you were like, I forgot to take my supplements,
Speaker 1: and you're in a rush, so you grabbed your fish
Speaker 1: one fish, your capsule, and you put your zinc down.
Speaker 1: Zinc had gone in. You done, ye b twelves You're done,
Speaker 1: ye bam and I and you were like, I've really
Speaker 1: got to go. You grabbed your fish and your magnesia
Speaker 1: and you chucked them in, and then they both got
Speaker 1: stuck in your throat and no one was around, and
Speaker 1: you were like, and you couldn't reach your mobile which
Speaker 1: was over there, and you collapsed on the floor, and
Speaker 1: then your agent. It's twelve hours later. We're like, ten
Speaker 1: is not making money for us. It's been twelve hours
Speaker 1: since you made money for us. This doesn't seem right.
Speaker 1: I'm furious. They're like summings up. And they called me
Speaker 1: and I was wondering about with a coffee, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm like, And I go, I'll check in on there.
Speaker 1: I'm in the area, and I come in your house.
Speaker 1: You are not only dead, but the thing has trapped
Speaker 1: so much. You have expanded. You're like the air that
Speaker 1: has got caught has just expanded expanded, and there's so
Speaker 1: much more of you than I'm expecting. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh fuck, so I have to get acts. And I
Speaker 1: start chopping you up, chopping you up, chopping you into
Speaker 1: little bits to try and get you all into the
Speaker 1: coffin and the black airwhere bits of you everywhere ever,
Speaker 1: all over your place. Say sorry, but Dustin says he's
Speaker 1: going to clean it up later. Anyway, I grab her
Speaker 1: all your bits, stuff him in the coffin. It's jammed.
Speaker 1: There's really only enough room in that coffin. Barely enough
Speaker 1: room in the coffin. But I can slip one DVD
Speaker 1: in the side for you to take across to the
Speaker 1: other side. And on the other side, it's movie night
Speaker 1: every night. What film are you taking to show the
Speaker 1: people of match of Heaven on the other side when
Speaker 1: it is your movie night, Taylor Thomlinson, match match, I
Speaker 1: mean singing in the rain? Am I allowed to say
Speaker 1: singing in the rain? Great? Okay? I believe, I believe
Speaker 1: he's already there. But no one is complaining about a
Speaker 1: rewatch of singing in the rain. So like we saw
Speaker 1: this one, you wasted a trip to Heaven. Send her back.
Speaker 1: She's got more work to do in The agents are like, yes, please,
Speaker 1: Taylor Thomlinson, Is there anything else you would like people
Speaker 1: to look out for to watch your Netflix specials eg
Speaker 1: or other things? Yeah? Montress By. They're both on Netflix.
Speaker 1: I am on Tour Forever and always tetom Comedy dot
Speaker 1: com for shows. I don't know when this comes out,
Speaker 1: but I'm probably coming to your city. I'm also going
Speaker 1: overseas for the first time. Okay, I'm going overseas for
Speaker 1: the first time, but it's those are also low. So
Speaker 1: where are you going? We might be adding we might
Speaker 1: be adding one more London show, but I'm not sure yet. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: people of London. Guy, and see Taylor tomly since she's amazing.
Speaker 1: All Right, Taylor, thanks for your time, what pleasure. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. This is so fun. Have a good debt.
Speaker 1: Good night. So that was episode two hundred and thirty three.
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Speaker 1: Hope you are all well. Thank you very much for listening.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Taylor for giving me her time.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Scrubius Pitt and the Distraction pieces of Network.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Buddy Peace for producing it. Thanks to A
Speaker 1: Cars for hosting it. Thanks to Adam Richardson for the
Speaker 1: graphics and Lisa Liatham for the photography. Come and join
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Speaker 1: it for now, So in the meantime, have a lovely week,
Speaker 1: and please, now more than ever, be excellent to each other.